IBM Model M.

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>>106956118
Gentlemen, I came to /g/ for another purpose to look up some new PC build meta, but I saw /mkg/ and I had to stop by and say hi. It's been a long time. I still have a collection of converted oldies. I still have a couple of old terminal alp boards that need modern love.

However, I come with the glad news I actually did reach my grail. It has carried me through all the gauntlet of a masters degree, then teaching college classes, building autistic spreadsheets of grades and miniature collections, writing essays, scientific papers and stories. I have not had a different primary board for over 3 years.

It is but a humble Epson QX-10, modded to have NKRO by adding diodes and giving it QMK firmware. I can adjust the feet to my perfect angle. I have the extended numpad for all my needs. I have macros for all the major F key replacements when I need them in a single press. In the beginning, I never thought I would have gone linear. I never thought doubleshot ABS would fulfill me. Yet, here I am. A couple of layer functions and she is my baby. Fujitsu leaf springs are some of my favorites and the layout, heavy key clunk, and slim adjustable profile just fit everything I want.

I guess what I really want to say is I hope you all also find your forever board as well. This thing has already served me longer than it was meant to serve the world in 1984. Good luck on your quest, friends.

>>106956273
I'm happy for you anon it sounds like it was a lot of work

>>106956273
>Epson QX-10
You sound like sperg, but I'm a toprautist and even have a realforce board and mouse in my cubicle so I respect the tism.

What is your masters in? I'm mathchad so 1800 layout is the way to go.

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>>106955072
Membrane you say?

>>106956273
I hope to one day be as content as this anon

>>106956273
I'm 1.5 bottles deep into the wine but I'm STILL going to read all this because I am NOT illiterate

>>106956630
Masters of Science in Geology with a specialization in paleoenviromental reconstruction. I once attempted a PhD right out of undergrad so it wasn't hard to get through with a 4.0. Having a good source at my right hand for numbers and media controls at the same time has been a godsend in my life, lately.

>>106956572
bro I'm not keeping 8000mAh of C4 under my fingers fuck that shit

>>106956273
Ok my drunk ass read it.

After such a build-up about the "humble" board you settled for I was a little surprised to find it was some vintage desktority-approved Chyrosran-approved board.

>In the beginning, I never thought I would have gone linear. I never thought doubleshot ABS would fulfill me.

Linears with double-shot ABS... who could imagine...

>Good luck on your quest
Appreciated, thank you. I hope your vintage grail keeps on chugging another decade. Salut.

>>106956943
Yeah I'm not doing that either, but I have access to non-chinkshit murata Li-Po batteries so I don't have some explosion prone JaeoWOObinngbong eBay battery with a a faulty BMS.
But regardless of that fact, even with a high quality battery like AA Samsung rechargeable with an effective BMS for it, 8000mAh is just cartoonish. Why not 800kmAh? I was under the impression most keyboards and mice used something like 1800mAh with lazy controllers that went off voltage to indicate fully charged so 4.2V reports as 100% as opposed to real charge determination.

>>106956960
Funny thing. I got it before Chrysoran approved it. One of my others, the Fortran Z-spring, he actually reviewed specifically because of me. Good board, BTW. I just like this one better.

>>106956976
>Funny thing. I got it before Chrysoran approved it.
Even funnier thing. I don't watch Chyrosran, I was guessing.

>>106956980
Dude has nice things to say about most old bamillion keypress switches, so not a hard guess. He usually pumps up the 3rd Gen Fujitsu's, but I like the seconds better. It's honestly whether they have the NKRO or not but a little clever circuit splicing and it makes no difference.

>>106956966
>800kmAh
k and m just cancel each-other so you're at 800Ah. which is the equivalent of roughly 12 car batteries. like the 12V ones. but if you're looking for same Wh as 800kmAh at 4.2V then ~3 car batteries should do it.

>>106956976
he actually liked the 8bitdo numpad. https://youtu.be/2xxo2jeroW4

>>106957123
This is such an obvious paid shilling

>>106957175
dunno dude seems pretty objective overall but he did get them for free I guess

>>106957005
>Dude has nice things to say about most old bamillion keypress switches, so not a hard guess.
Nope, wouldn't pretend it was.

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Must... not.... consumeeee cerakeys + rainy75 to make.... ice rain sounds.....

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>>106957624

>>106957635
this

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>>106957635
I bought them
I am a whore
If they don't make the right sound they will go into the unorganized keycaps box and be forgotten

>>106957773
how the cermic shit feels?

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>>106957836
What makes it worse is I've been told ceramic is painful to type on after long periods and I believed them

>>106957773
good news! r/mechmarket exists

>>106957945
Trash keycaps belong in the FUCKING BOX

>>106957624
>MTNU are more expensive than a pure ceramic set
what the fuck man

>>106958264
Gotta pay for german labor when you buy GMK.

how do I ceramic coat shit?

>>106958264
Shocking: a better set of keycaps costs more. How do they get away with it??

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my keyboards aren't ready for the Toronto meet in mid-November.

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>>106956118
First time I ever took keycaps off and put new ones on. What do you think?

>>106958504
Didn't get enough replies last thread?

>>106958499
you guys meet?

>>106958559
not a 4chan meet, just a keyboard meet that I discovered via google

>>106958559
>>106958564
and by "not a 4chan meet" I mean I will be the only one bringing the Brisbane meetup energy to this one

>>106958564
so like what...you look at eachother's keycaps and shit? you press the clickly and listen for sounds?

>>106958579
I am practicing making an "I am disgusted" face so I can walk around being disgusted by people's awful keyboards

>>106958579
The nobourer guy gets off like a cuck watching curious people finger his keyboard. You pretend to be impressed by the guy who made his own wooden keycaps. Some dude tries to tell you his gmk keycaps for 1000 dollars a box. A basedboi acts like his replica model m is a real model m. Everyone ignores the doctorate engineer who has an entirely custom made maglev mounted maglev switch keyboard

>>106958649
none of this happens, it's actually just a bunch of asians walking around playing with eachother's stabilizers

>>106958668
>it's actually just a bunch of asians
My worst fear... I hope there are at least a few other Norwooding old-stock Torontonians like myself

>>106958649
>Everyone ignores the doctorate engineer who has an entirely custom made maglev mounted maglev switch keyboard
imagine flux pinned superconductor switches that just stay there, and when you press them meissner effect is like the spring in the switch. lk99 switches brehs

>>106958668
>>106958677
You seem to forget the trans crowd. Unlike asians, they're quick to ignore every
>do not touch
sign.

This 3.7v 3000mAh battery is failing....
Wont charge over 60%
smells kinda funny.
leaving it on "sleep" overnight drained it to 20%

How long until it explodes and kills me

>>106956220
/thread

>>106960496
>2KRO
>membrane-based
>horrible to repair and maintain
nope

>>106956118
UwU jellyfish keys

>>106956273
ABS forever, brother.

Someone should make a HOF/TOTL ranking list of S and A tier keyboards for full size/1800/TKL/75%/60% boards. Anything smaller is too niche to bother with.

>>106961149
>full size/1800/TKL. Anything smaller is too niche to bother with.
ftfy

>>106961218
There are a ton of 60s and 75s in the market. Not so for smaller ones.

I'm looking to get a QMK board, any tips on the firmware and driver situation? I'm using openbsd, and from the looks of it firmware is going to work, but the driver might be difficult to get working.

>>106961930
Idk lol

Can someone just spoonfeed me a good keyboard platform?

I’ve been using keychron, which I like, but I need another keyboard. Preferably with wireless/wired potential and hotswappable switches

>>106961930
??? Your question doesn't make sense. All pcb will give you the firmware. ??? Are you making your own pcb?

>>106962564
Your question is also just vague. Any keyboard on divinikey will do that? There are 100s of brands that make acceptable hotswap, wireless/ wired boards

>>106962854
Spoon feed me some thing good a pleb can just plug in and use with 0 thought

>battery indicated 61% only, never fully charged
>get new battery
>also indicates 61%
>weird smell still happening.

No idea what this could be. The bluetooth controller on the keyboard overheating? I've taken this thing apart like 5 times and there is nothing wrong with it, truly no idea where this smell is coming from. This time its not even a flat chink shit battery they're actual AA in a BS managed enclosure....

>>106962895
Wobkey rainy75, easy

>>106962564
If you're down for a 65% (more usable than I thought it would be), this is a greak keyboard:
https://cannonkeys.com/products/photon

>>106962564
What size keyboard do you use right now? Actually just tell us the model number and we will spoonfeed you better. What's your budget, do you want a sidegrade or an upgrade or are you just CONSOOMING so anything goes?

>>106962895
Every single keyboard works plug and play style, we need to know MOREEEE

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>>106963027
Done

>>106963027
I have never heard of one sounding good, ever.

>>106963222
Sound is the most subjective part of mechanical keyboards, and even YT videos sound different across sources. That Rainy75 is commonly regarded as a nice-sounding keyboard and it just werks, so it's a very safe bet for spoonanon.

>>106962854
will the firmware compile and be flashable on openbsd is what i'm asking. i know keychron give sources for their firmware, but they don't compile on bsd

>>106963241
>That Rainy75 is commonly regarded as a nice-sounding keyboard
It can be as commonly-regarded as you like, I'll still think they're wrong. Show me a video of a Rainy75 sounding good. I have watched a LOT of Rainy75 sound test videos, and never once found it pleasant to listen to.

And the flex cutouts are so extreme that the board basically doesn't work without being stuffed with foam. Look at this shit lol:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1HELCwFRIY&t=250s

I think it would be far easier to make a Keychron V1 Max sound good.

>>106963576
rainy75 is overrated as fuck and is for art hoe faggotry performative keyboard bullshit

>>106963152
Nice. You will have a sound profile people used to pay 500 dollars for. Also if you do buy new switches make sure they are 5 pin, they are needed to make the rain drop sound

NOOOOO just got the first pieceo f trash in my brand new keyboard... eating pasta and a tiny bit of parmesan gets between one of the keys, i try to yoink it out but it only goes deeper in and now its lost forever

>>106963593
>and is for art hoe faggotry performative keyboard bullshit
Well so are all my keyboards, so I can't hold that against it. But I think other boards do it better.

The Photon ($104 barebones) sounds so much better:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUT8rAsiFlM&t=840s

hmmm I think I want a huge metallic battleship keyboard

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>>106963576
It's actually pretty shocking how much of that creamy yummy thock that makes my heart tock is driven by foam. I am not going to let material elitism warp my perception tho.

>>106964038
I'll never understand liking that sound.

>>106963576
Lmao what the fuck is that design?

>>106963576
That sound is just like shaking a spray paint can. It's what keyboard enthusiasts today call marbly.
>>106964038
Marbly 100% has its place, so don't let anyone get in between what you like. Since sound tests are so subjective and easy to fake, I can't even honestly say what I like to hear. A dedicated desktop mic can sound 100% different (no hyperbole) compared to an iPhone's mic. It's simply impossible to be a sound elitist like this. If you like what you hear, own it.

>>106964038
Also foam filters sound and every single keyboard kit uses foam in some manner or the other so don't start thinking foam is for plebs or some bullshit. Just look at how every other manufacturer uses PE switch sheets after the Jelly Epoch-inspired PE foam mod became popular.

How do I make my keyboard sound something like a Model M clone without using buckling springs?

Someone on Reddit called the Transition Lite a foamed up piece of shit, fuuuuck I was so close to buying it.

>>106964424
>That sound is just like shaking a spray paint can. It's what keyboard enthusiasts today call marbly.
Yeah, that's bad, sorry. It sounds bad.

>>106964950
You don't.

wanted to try an hhkb and get into trackers (renoise i was thinking). will a 60% keyboard be a burden on speed / enjoyment of trackers?

>>106964950
Might as well try to get Alps-like tactiles by modding the current garbage switches that are passed off as tactile.

>>106965050
Sound preference is subjective cope of the highest order. I am still not going to let material elitism warp my perception.

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>it sounds bad
>even though the whole world digs it

Hi guys, I've always had store-bought cherry mx blues, and I'm looking for something tactile, but silent. I don't really play vidya on my pc. I was thinking about browns, but the recommendations say it feels like "reds with sand in them."
I'm not a huge enthusiast, really, I just need something good for typing and excel shit (so a numpad is a must).
Thanks in advance.

>>106965714
>silent tactiles
Get whatever hotswap board is good and slap in lichicx silent tactiles.

>>106965727
Not Gazzew Boba u4t?

>>106965766
U4Ts are good switches but they're not silent.

>>106965121
Sound profile is a barometer of quality. Making your keyboard have a specific sound *even if you think it sounds like shit* isn't something that can be done with low-quality parts.

AAAAH, first time fiddling with a hotswap board, the whole key keeps coming out when I use the keycap puller and i have to like pry the switch from the keycap afterwards, spooked me

>>106965971
there's 0 chance you can fuck up the board itself by doing this right yoinking it out like this? worst you can do is damage the switch?

>>106965971
It's normal if the switches are HMX. Normal for other switches as well unless they're all flying off, in which case you need to improve your technique. Hold the board down with your other hand when you pull your keycap off with the puller. Or use flat tweezers/whatever to gently hold the switch from the exposed sides while you pull the keycap off. It'll work!

Just copped a transparent black TRANSition Lite for $70 lol
it's flexshit but they released a 7U non-flex board for it so I'll get my hands on that in future. Next up is a Neo65 CU by Christmas. Fucking CONSOOOOOOM bitches!

>>106966087
its an aula, not all of them just the one i was pulling
i was trying to get out a speck of parmesan >>106963662
it legitimately just went deeper into the keyboard somehow, its gone forever

gonna wait until my gateron smoothies arrive before trying to remove keys again tho

>>106965971
This is what happens when you have loose asf switches

All these shitty clones not following cherry PCB spec

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This. So much this.

>>106966554
You're gonna love those smoothies. Try the sea salts too. Instant GOAT linears no matter which smoothie you prefer.

>>106967039
HMX housings are much better these days.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/ai-steals-data-with-keystroke-audio
it's over for clicklets
https://youtu.be/tSE7IxP2x1A

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>>106967476
YOU ALL LAUGHED AT HE MRI KEYBOARDS

YOU LAUGHED WHEN YOUR WIRED KEYBOARDS BROADCAST SIGNALS FARTHER THAN WIRELESS BECAUSE WIRES ACT AS BIG ANTENNAS

BUT WHO IS LAUGHING NOW WHEN YOU FIND OUT YOUR THICCY THOCK WAS JUST A GOVERNMENT PSY-OP SO THEY CAN LISTEN TO YOUR KEYPRESS THROUGH DISCORD

>>106967584
>MRI
kek that's retarded. but the audio decoding shit yeah that's in the realm of possibility.

any SA ceramics yet?

>>106967648
We have ABS SAs

>>106963152
Did you ever get the keyboard? How do you like it?

>>106967787
I kinda want to avoid microplastics in my brain. plus having few piece of plastic for $100 is pretty much retarded in today's day and age

>>106967920
you already have microplastics in your brain

>>106967993
even if, want less of it tho. we need environmental friendly keycaps

>>106967899
Hasn’t come in hurry but I’ll update when it does

>>106967920
Just use a membrane with rubber caps.

Why are clear switches so hard to find I just want clear switches

>>106968160
no for real tho, why no other materials? there's wood nonsense, metal but looks and fits like shit, and ceramics which got me curious but still a long way from having different profiles

I want to update the general with some solid picks for different layouts. How's this for TKL?
>Transition Lite, Classic TKL, Neo80, QK80, Evo80, Mode Loop
these all seem to be in stock unlike the god boards like F1-8X V2

>>106968227
Plastic is king. Ceramics are very niche. Metal caps exist. You can get copper or aluminum ones, but it'll cost you. Wood caps will probably chip too easily and be a bitch to work with for manufacturers. Basically no one gives a fuck, plastic is king and you're not gonna get microplastics in your lungs by typing on plastic keycaps.

>>106968135
Fuck yeah, have fun with it!

>>106968199
TTC Frozen
Bright Moon Transparent
Gateron Magnetic Jade MAX
XVX Ice Jade Axis
Kailh Box Jellyfish
Kailh Clione Limacina
Durock Ice King
Leobog Ice Soul
Everglide Aqua King...

>>106968285
plastic is cheap and easy so that means most profit for sellers. they can pay shit for manufacturing while increasing their price until you snap. that's how they got to $100-$150 for some pieces of fucking plastic
plastic is not used in your interest, but for their profit margins.

>>106967920
you get microplastics in your brain from eating microplastics, not from touching them

>>106968259
Meh, I have a neo, and evo and used to have transition lite. They are too general *Chink shit*

You have to admire the asain design. As an American it's hard not to look at them and think they are "toys".

I think they look nice, but I wouldn't feel right suggesting them as keyboards to a general audience.

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Tasty keyboard crumbs

I need softer edged key caps for my little baby faggot fingies

>>106969651
mt3

>>106967584
Why are women so schizo?

>>106968677
Well shit. Which one was the better of the three? Or are they all irredeemable?

>>106968664
touching them gets microplastics on your fingers and in your immediate environment, and you inevitably get them into your system by breathing them, or eating them. they land in your cup of coffee etc

>>106969552
Disgusting gore.

Anyone ever seen a TKL that's black but has grey coloured bezels bordering the key rows? God I want a black/grey TKL so bad.

Most keyboards are vaporware, everyone should get a Chinese shitbox and just end it.

>>106970213
>they land in your cup of coffee etc
bro, if your coffee cup is paper you're already ingesting many magnitudes more plastic than you ever could from your abs keycaps wearing down and falling into your coffee cup. did you even think through how absurd that sounds?

>>106970213
you know your actual clothes that u wear all the time are likely made of plastic and get em all over u all the time right? Unless u wear all 100% cotton everything worrying about microplastics from other places is the most retarded thing, they're literally everywhere

>>106970720
Also if you've ever drank anything from any container at all (even glass which actually has the most from the cap) you ingested a whole keyboard already nigga worrying about plastic key shavings, mental illness

>>106970735
Don't feed the troll d00d

>>106970754
It reminded me of how we just live and breathe plastic now, the true definitive trait of 1950+ gens

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Going to be a fag and borrow this thread a bit. I ordered viper v3 hyperspeed to replace my old g305. Did I fuck up? Didn't find any chink mouse brands that were even close to having a 280 hour battery life since every mouse has to weigh 50 grams these days for some reason while having abysmal battery life.

>>106971966
I've heard about 0 battery issues from those extremely light Chinese mice that are 30g let alone 50, but Viper v3 is highly praised since ever if u like the shape don't see how you'd fuck up

>>106969651
PBS is perfect for this

>>106971966
Nah razer is great. The Viper V3 Pro I got is fantastic in particular. Great and I mean GREAT clicky response. Their keyboards are trash obv

>>106968259
I hate the idea of having a "recommended products" list in the OP. It stakes the entire thread's reputation on Chinese products that can fail, and it will become outdated almost instantly, requiring constant maintenance. And worst of all it will discourage requests for recommendations, one of the few sources of posts we have.

>>106972862
all tech products are Chinese

>>106967476
>The system doesn’t work with just any random keyboard, it must be trained to a specific keyboard with references for what character each keystroke corresponds to.
This is scary. That means with little more than a mic in your room and a keylogger they might be able to figure out what you're privately typing with up to 95% accuracy...

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These ABS keycaps really hold their own next to GMKs

>>106972862
Cope. Those are the most common boards available today and anyone can find at least one solid board from those that I listed. Most boards are foamslop anyway, at least with a list you can avoid Meletrix or completely random sounding brands like YOOZU or SZAPP

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>>106972868
I know this nuance is completely lost on some of you idiots but being manufactured in China is not what makes something Chinese.

This push mower is made in China. It is made to an exact specification for an American seller, based on an old American mower design; the seller rigorously inspects it for QC to ensure it meets the spec. If you've ever used one, you notice its distinctly American character, made for the sensibilities of a certain kind of American merchant and American consumer. It is heavy, robust, utilitarian-looking, and requires some maintenance by the owner. It is, in almost every sense, an American product. But it is Made in China.

The degree to which a product is Chinese is the degree to which it embodies a Chinese sensibility because of the Chinese involvement in decision-making about the product. This is on a spectrum:

Chinese-designed product for the Chinese market >>> Chinese-designed product for a western market >>> American-designed product with broad leeway for the Chinese manufacturer to implement the design >>> Tightly-specified American design that nonetheless leaves QC/etc to the manufacturer >>> Full tight control of design, materials, QC, etc by a non-Chinese party using a Chinese manufacturer >>> Products designed and manufactured outside of China

>>106973090
Those keyboards are top tier

>>106973181
I didn't actually read it lol. But if you put a list (that quickly goes out of date and needs updating) in the OP, guaranteed some anon is going to put Aula, Keychron, etc. in there eventually. And it's certain also that we're going to have a lot of "wtf why are all the recommended keyboards so expensive" posts

niggas will reply with text walls all the way to character limit and expect you to read that but they couldn't be bothered to read the actual sentence they were replying to
>>106973309

>>106969969
No they are all excellent. I feel the transition lite was the worse of the bunch but that is just because it wasn't a the real transition board. Neo and Evo are basically equal. Neo if you want something more customized, Evo if you want something out of the box.

But my opinion wasn't that they are bad. But they are distinctly Asian looking.

Imo Keychron is the king of recommendation boards. They have a neutral look and are the easiest to mod into better boards. I wish Glorious gmmk would actually sell the pieces of their board separately so I could recommend them, because they also have a good neutral look. (But for example, a Evo completely btfos a 400 dollar Glorious board in every single way except overall design)

>>106973090
the Chinese rip off all these designs QC included and if u get a 50$ Chinese product it'll have the same qc as a 100$ made in China American product, that's roughly the ratio, don't think Chinese are retarded and they reserve the best for foreign name brands only, just u get what u pay for if u get a 3$ mouse it'll be ass, but 50$ mchose are the same or even better quality wise than 100$ razer or Logitech that's just a fact, Chinese brand cost to quality ratio is 2x higher

>>106973448
>They have a neutral look
They look a bit goofy actually.

>>106973496
Based Han supremacist.

>>106973309
I did not consider that possibility :(

>>106970636
my coffee cup is ceramic.
it's not absurd, since the caps constantly rub on your fingers. your fingers grind the plastic to very small particles which you use to eat a sammich etc. makes perfect sense.
the problem is the constant exposure. daily use for 20 years of rubbing that plastic all over your fingers does add up. you're not thinking about it because it's a very slow process. the fact that is slow means very small amounts are shaved/chipped with use. which is exactly the type of plastic you want to avoid, the micro-particles that can get everywhere.
if you read this shit in your favorite news website then you'd go all up in arms about it. let's be real, it's not like you do le thinking about anything, you're waiting for some authority to update your chip with what you should meltdown about and what you should clap for

>>106970720
>>106970735
holy shit you drones just fucking stop. I don't wear plastic clothes, I wear cotton, I eat from ceramic and I use metal spoon/fork/knife. I'm not a retarded fat burger and I don't indulge myself in junk food at some street corner. stop assuming shit and stop dragging everyone else to your level just because you have no control over your life and give into comfort and poison yourself in the process.

>>106973553
Bog standard boring, more like. Imagine paying $200+ and not getting something that's got chamfers, badges or engraved designs on the back.

INSANE IN THE MEMBRANE

>>106972900
With a microphone your typing could be decoded based on word matches. It can probably create a map for each key, even if it's not assigned to any letters, they can be decoded in time based on usual words, spacebar is usually distinct in sound.

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>>106973724
>Bog standard boring
I'd say they're safe designs. They're going for volumes.
>Imagine paying $200+ and not getting something that's got chamfers, badges or engraved designs on the back.
That's fake news, see picrel.

>>106973747
cryptographically the spacebar should be the easiest to figure out even if its sound isn't that distinct

>>106973803
>To Kill A Mockingbird
Fucking lol

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>>106973877
maybe this one says more about what you need to be doing, there's an extra space in there tho

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I'm thinking about replacing my ducky shine 6. It's a huge fucker, taking up too much space and not hot-swappable.

I'm looking for something at least TKL, I think I can get rid of the function keys too since I barely use them. Should be hot-swappable, considering getting gateron smoothies for switches.
Should have nice looking rgb gaylord lighting, budget is around 150€ I guess?

Location is germany, which is pretty dogshit since DE-ISO layouts seem to not be that common. Anyone switched from ISO / DE-ISO to ANSI? How bad of an idea is that?

>>106973803
>>106973949
Did they design this for Midwestern boomers?

>>106974099
Lucky you, Keychron has in-stock keyboards for Deutschland.

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Hey, how come this shit gets a pass while the Rainy75 doesn't? This one's chock-full of foam.

>>106974230
>Rainy75
What's up with the FR4 plate? Anyone knows? Is it supposed to be a superior version? Is it like regular PCB but with cutouts? 1.6mm standard PCB thickness? Copper planes or no copper at all?

>>106974327
Best to try out different plates for yourself. What you read online and what you or your switches like are completely different. But I will say FR4 is better than aluminum or carbon fucking fiber which sheds death needles everywhere. For me, it's like switches with soft housing like POM go great with soft plates like PP. FR4 makes switches with nylon housing sound better and feel better if they're heavier. Basically if you have heavy switches make those fuckers clack on FR4

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Pic rel lol

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is the anon that purchased a Royal Kludge L98 here?
there's a 20% sale on, and I have to ask them like 5 questions

>>106973673
there is no chance you've avoided microplastics inside you and if you think there is you're just a coping retard

>>106974230
Am I supposed to just know what keyboard this is?

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GMK red from Monochrome R2 vs SK Classic red. The latter is great if you don't compare with GMK, especially since they give you an absolute ton of caps in one set. But the difference is there, and it's why I glaze GMK.

>>106974790
Nice job with the labeling

>>106974566
>>106974594
Thanks anon.

>>106974786
It's in the filename. The P1.

>>106974802
It's self-evident, isn't it? GMK are known for their vibrant colours and there's only one keycap that's far more vibrant than the other. Come on man

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>>106974786
Lemokey P1, probably hall effect version.
It's quite interesting, full metal body yet cheaper than Q1 HE. Also has thinner bezels all around, and north facing LEDs. And is cheaper than Q1.

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Here it is even more self-evident. Absolutely brutal. But in a way it's cool, if you want muted reds you won't get that from GMK in the way you'd get from SK. It's nice to have choices!

>>106974858
Absolutely gorgeous. What a sexy beast.

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>>106974960
The harder to find ISO version comes with OSA profile keycaps.

>>106975011
Imagine using heavy finger breaker switches for the stab keys on that thing. Dee-licious

how do I sort the shite from the chaff? all these barebones keyboards look the same and the elitist brands are all sold out.

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>>106974217
I heard keychron customer support is hot dogshit, that true?

Also, how do the keyboard brands compare to each other? For example I could also get a Wobkey Rainy 75 in DE ISO layout with a similar price to keychron keyboards, wat do?

>>106975119
if you want hall effect then you need good software support for all the crazy shit they can do. not many options these days. if you don't want magnetic switches then you probably have more options

>>106975119
>>106975144
also knob or no knob, south or north facing LEDs. if you're picky you arrive at 1-2 models

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>>106974594
I see some FR4 plates have a lot of material removed between the switches. Some are full like the original metal plate, but some are removing extra material. Is it related to sound, or plate flex maybe?

>>106975090
There really isn't a way. Past a certain price point, performance and quality are equalized. It comes down to your subtle tastes and superior eye for aesthetics.

Vendor ran out of Knight V4s so now I'm gonna do a blind buy of Staebies V2.1. I hope it isn't a meme

>>106974327
>>106974566
FR4 is for bad sounding boards for boards with poor acoustics it ends up working out because it doesn't really have a sound characteristic. It's also a cheap option since the manufacturers can just get it from the same place that they're ordering the PCB from. Plate sound is always going to vary from board to board and even switches. Carbon fiber is actually extremely nice for certain board/switch combinations, like Alps, since it boosts the volume of the switch quite a bit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M22nv3IeLk4

Or maybe you want a polycarbonate or PP plate if you want your board to be more flexible. It all just depends, I wouldn't say any single plate is better than another.

>>106975119
>>106975175
>>106975144
I don't really see the point of hall effect for me, so I don't think I need it

>>106975175
knob would be nice, but it's not 100% required. North or south leds doesn't really matter that much I think, I'm not sure how the shine 6 has the leds but that looks fine to me.

>>106975467
man I fucked up the replies, whoopee

>>106973673
Seconding what that other anon said, you already have microplastics in you. It's in all the water on earth, and I mean all the water on earth. Of course, you can get stuff like RO systems to effectively filter them out, but if you have ever had any tap water, let alone bottled water, you're already "doomed" in that regard. There's also a good chance that any food you have had that you didn't prep yourself came into contact with plastic surfaces or utensils at some point.
Reducing the amount of plastic exposure in your life may help in the very long run, but it's pointless to worry about it at this time. You're better off making sure that you're eating as healthy as possible and exercising regularly to help counteract any of the negative effects of microplastics in your body.
It's going to take some insane technology to be able to remove all the plastics and lead out of the average human's body, microplastics and lead can and will be deposited even into your bones, after all.

>>106975249
Couldn't tell you in all honesty, as mine are solid between the switches. That's from a Wooting so maybe it's less relevant for HE switches so they're saving a dime by using less material.

>>106975440
I just tested all of my switches on all of my plates and I found the KD 200s to sound great on the FR4 plates so I loaded my plate up with those and I'm typing on it RN and I don't want to stop typing at all it sounds so good and it feels so good I just go by experience by spamming different switches on different plates and I use 4 switches in a row so I boop my finger down rhythmically across each set of keys up and down up and down until I get an innate feel of the upstroke and downstroke and how it varies from plate to plate and not to mention the sound and basically that helps me pick the best linears for the most suitable plate comfort/stroke feel is my first priority followed very closely by sound since form always follows function if a switch works good it must feel good to hear as well I simply cannot stop clacking across my keyboard oh this is so good

>>106975555
It's basically a PCB, they're not saving anything. Theoretically it would be cheaper to not manufacture the slots, since it's extra tool use for routing them. Could be some sound or design thing.

>>106975638
you hate punctuation so fucking much it's unreal

For example I lubed my sea salt smoothies all over the inside because it's POM and I want greasy sweet POM all over POM it up man just give me grease on full POM switches and so basically it sounds fantastic on a bend-y PP plate and it bounces realllllly well I just cannot comprehend how it can feel so good for my fingers and I'm saying that as I type on my equally good but in a different way set of KD 200s god this is just wow I mean wow help fuck I need to stop typing excessively long replies but it just feels good hahahahahahaha

>>106975654
>>106975634

>>106975654
punctuate deeeez nuts

>>106975658
breathe mf

I'm beginning to feel like a clack god, clack god. There. Civilization is restored. Every sentence is punctuatedaaaaaaaaaaaaa just kidding I gotta keep tyyping pucntiation is blatol speel chekc is blaot kjsut keep surfing the keycaps man fuckka yeah slsentience is a meme good tooto goooo devolu8tion

>>106975634
Some switch combos just work that way. I wouldn't want to ever use MX Blacks on something that wasn't aluminum, for instance.

>>106975531
>you already have microplastics in you.
You already have lead in you, would you like more retard?

>>106975531
>leave the poor plastics alone
>stop resisting

>>106975806
>>106975845
Plastic is in 100000000000x more stuff in your daily life than lead is, so yes, it is silly to be so terrified of it autismo-kun. Better get that RO system in place and drink it out of glass cups you washed with microplastic filled water, using detergents and soaps in plastic containers, and don't ever once touch any nylon or fleece, (found in all vehicles, in most upholstery and clothing). Also, don't touch any doors or keypads in elevators or anything else at a supermarket. I hope you can hover off the ground and use telekinesis at that point or something, otherwise you're going to look like even more of a faggot than you're being right now. All the meat you eat is from animals that are drinking water full of microplastics, and the vegetables and fruits you eat are also watered with water full of microplastics.
Anything else, dipshit? I didn't say give up, either.
>You're better off making sure that you're eating as healthy as possible and exercising regularly to help counteract any of the negative effects of microplastics in your body.
But you just want to be a whiney homo online instead of taking that advice. Have fun being a fat doomposter for the rest of your life kek

>>106975947
What if microplastics are good for you? Ever think of that?

>>106975947
not sure in what hellhole you live anon, I'm getting my food from the farmer's market.
again, you are CONSTANTLY in contact with plastic keycaps, for tens of years, and it's like nothing else in your life. there's no amount of plastic you are constantly tapping and rubbing like you are with a keyboard. the problem here is the constant exposure, for years and years, and shaving/chipping that plastic, with your fingers/fingernails, then you pick your nose, or touch your face or prepare your food.
I think it's bad for you long term and no amount of coping will change that anon.
plus again, all that whataboutism nonsense is pretty much bunk. lifestyle differs a lot. not sure what the fuck you're doing but you sound like a fucking drone that is surrounded by junk food and instant gratification slop. plus if you gave up because you've been brainwashed into accepting the plastic in your brain, why the fuck are you trying to drag everyone else at your level? why should I take your microplastics? go fuck yourself you weak loser.

>>106975777
What about Kailh BCPs? I want to run a new build with them.

>>106976033
By the same token, why are you hellbent on convincing us to get on your level? Let us debase ourselves with our plebian plastic keycaps. Yes, I am a Barbie girl. Life is plastic, it's fantastic! Wat nou, Hitler d00d?

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These Geon stands are awesome.

>>106976075
you can choke yourself with a plastic dildo for all I care. I was explaining my concern for others that might be interested in managing this plastic exposure in their lives.
how does it personally hurt you if I am asking for quality non-hazardous materials for keycaps?
>leave the poor seller's margins alone
aah..

>>106975968
>can't engage with it so has to shitpost
>>106976033
Again retard, anything you've ever eaten has microplastics in it. Let alone touching, you are ingesting them, daily. No matter what you do, you are. That is the cold, hard truth that you don't want to accept, but it is.
>t-that's just bunk
Nope, it's true. All the food at your "farmer's market", whether it's meat, fruits or veggies was grown with water containing microplastics. If you're so confident you can send a sample to any lab, and they'll be very glad to report to you that it does, in fact, have microplastics in it too.
>no u no u no u
Yep, you're mindbroken after getting BTFO.
You can only @ me again after you have installed that RO system, start your own personal farm where you somehow got fruit/veggie seeds without microplastics in them, somehow obtained baby animals like chickens and cows without microplastics in them, etc, and use that RO water to grow and give to them respectively. Oh, and all the machinery and tools you have to use can't have any plastic in it, or have ever touched any plastic since it was made for even 0.000001 seconds.
Sound good? I await your next response in: never, because that isn't happening.

>>106976167
>Again retard, anything you've ever eaten has microplastics in it. Let alone touching, you are ingesting them, daily. No matter what you do, you are. That is the cold, hard truth that you don't want to accept, but it is.
how the fuck do you know this? I'm not consooming like an idiot. I eat healthy food that's sourced from farmers and I cook my own food.
>water containing microplastics
we have one of the best water around lmao. like legit clean water sources. not some recycled bullshit. not sure what the fuck you are talking about, but I'm pretty sure you are on some weird propaganda that is meant to make you feel better about having to ingest a lot of plastic in your shithole consoom environment.
https://youtu.be/SC2eSujzrUY?t=2764
again, I do not live in such an environment, I do not eat fast food, or food in plastic containers. water is from a clean mountain source (crazy good and clean with proper minerals). world is much bigger than your consoom shithole environment you imbecile. no amount of coping will transform the rest of the world in your shithole, and the rest of the people having your amount of plastics. it's just idiots like you who don't give a fuck
> await your next response in: never, because that isn't happening.
you have no idea just how utterly retarded and clueless you are. you know basically nothing, you just ingest propaganda meant to disarm you and carry on consooming just like you ingest the plastics

Damn, gay foreplay is something else between keebqueers

>>106976099
BRG on Peacock is just not working. You have to let it go. It brings me no pleasure to say this.

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>>106976167
>>can't engage with it so has to shitpost
I was just trying to bring the temperature down you don't have to be so mean

>>106976033
You're a complete retard, all potable containers for any beverage ever are lined with plastic, if you drank even from a water bottle there's microplastics in there, most autistic thing ever to worry about assuming ur not trolling

>>106976338
I do not drink slop beverages/soda whatever the fuck. I buy my water in glass bottles, bottled at the source.
you are a fucking slave. stop talking to me

>>106976365
glass bottles have plastic caps, glass bottles actually have more microplastics than aluminum cans or plastic bottles since the caps are particularly nasty about it, google it, but I don't give a shit keep living a lie

>>106976272
>how do you know this
Because, again retard. >>106975531
>It's in all the water on earth, and I mean all the water on earth.
I said this. And it's true, that's why I even brought up RO since it's one of the things you have to do to take it out of water. There is no feasible way in hell that the food you are eating at your market was raised with RO water, it's just normal ass water with microplastics in it, guaranteed. The ground and food that the animals and fruits and vegetables you are eating is tainted with microplastics, too.
Microplastic is in the oceans, it's in springs and rivers, it's literally everywhere. It is carried through the entire water cycle and deposited into all organic and non-organic material on earth as a result.
You do know how the water cycle works, yes? Your "clean mountain source" has microplastics in it because of the water cycle, so that's just a cope. And no, that's not propaganda, it's a simple understanding of science that you should have learned back in 1st grade. What goes up, must come down, and it goes around, too.
I even said:
>the best way to fight it is to eat healthy foods and exercise to counteract the negative effects since it is, currently, impossible to filter out of the human body or avoid in any meaningful measure
And you ignored it to still go on this crusade. I never said it will ALWAYS be impossible to avoid, but we are not at the point in tech to be able to selectively filter out all plastic out of all of our tissue and literally all of the water and the soil on earth. Come back in a few hundred years, maybe.
You will not see that in your life time. Stop being a fat doomposter faggot and get some exercise, now.

>>106976365
if you have any milk in your diet, 99% of the world puts it in either plastic containers or plastic lined paper cartons (or plastic bags if you’re a faggot leaf)

metal cans are also often plastic lined. you can’t avoid this shit, it’s even in the rain water

>>106974790
Have fun growing breasts and getting althimerz using these things

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What keyboard and keycaps are these?

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It seems the BCPs from Kailh definitely benefit from filming. The alextos video showed that switches with ideal fit would reject films by having the legs on the housing protrude, instead of lying flush when snapped down. This obviously isn't the case here. I knew this shit felt loose when I used it, I'm going to stem and spring lube plus film every BCP I got.

>>106976300
Oh, I know. I have other keycaps on the way, along with the custom brass weights I commissioned. I like to keep it on display until then. A gentle reminder of my folly.

>>106976602
Reverse image search.

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>he doesn't have a muted, electronically hardened TEMPEST-qualified keyboard

>>106976602
nuphy somethingorother

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>mfw I stop worrying and embrace the transdermal absorption of microplastics

>>106976854
Tried before I made the post. Came back as "office equipment" and no image results.
>>106977077
Thanks. That might be pretty close.

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keyboards for this feel?

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>>106977341

>>106977449
this is great

>>106977341
>>106977449
both of you should kill yourselves

>>106977644
go back

>>106972537
The one I ordered uses a AA battery and has 280h battery life while chinese mice are sometimes 100 or even less which seems a bit ridiculous.

>>106972840
>The Viper V3 Pro I got is fantastic in particular
The one I got is cheaper, has mechanical switches and weighs more due to the AA battery. But the sensor and the shape is the same, weighs around 75g with the battery I got for it (usb-c chargeable lithium AA)
>Their keyboards are trash obv
agreed

I fished an old IBM model F out of the junk drawer of a primary school I taught at a few years ago and I'm just now starting to restore it. A few of the springs are broken it seems, any idea on finding replacements for cheap? It's also missing the legs, so if I can find those too, I'd be saving this thing as a family heirloom.

>>106977931
Its garbage and really not worth restoring....

>>106977931
Try emailing ellipse (of modelfkeyboards.com) for spare parts.

>>106978001
Why would you just go on the internet and tell lies? I've got it connected right now to my pc and it both feels and sounds way better than my current kb (which isn't saying much but its an upgrade imo).
>>106978051
Ah thanks! How did i not find this site before? i see the springs for sale there at $1 each but they don't seem to have the feet. I'll try emailing that guy though. Thanks a lot anon.

>>106978187
>Why would you just go on the internet and tell lies? I've got it connected right now to my pc and it both feels and sounds way better than my current kb (which isn't saying much but its an upgrade imo).
Because I've had them before. Your current keyboard is likely some OEM hunk of junk. Get a topre board and then see what a quality keyboard actually feels like.

>>106978187
Don't listen to that sperg, it's actually crazy what he said and he has an agenda that is anathema to the spirit of mechanical keyboards. Restoring a model f is a fun, rewarding project and you are lucky to find one.

Shit audio, I know, but even here you can hear the lubed and filmed BCPs sound deeper. The downstroke feels positively luxe now as well.
Before and after:
>https://jumpshare.com/s/XTimpyW8l860T9XX2s4b

>>106974896
It's not "self-evident" because it's not obvious that they were trying to get the same red. One obviously leans a bit darker and orange, more Vermillion, while the other leans a toward Amaranth. That's not 'the same color but less', it's different.

It's easy to imagine someone wanting the Swagkeys color and being disappointed if it turned out they ordered something that looked like the GMK. It's also easy to imagine the converse. That's not "brutal" lol. And all of Swagkeys' promotional pics for the set look like in your pics so it's as-advertised, too. Something GMK can't always do with their group buys!

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>>106976602
>nuphy
seems to be air75.
btw there's also air75 HE, with low profile magnetic switches. they seem to use magnets in the side of the switch, which solves the need for having the sensor right under the switch. but they also advertise 0.01mm precision, which is tmr not he performance. weird

>>106980322
they have webpage config for keyboard, tried looking at their demo:
https://drive.nuphy.io/?isDemoMode=true#/demoSelect
but I noticed no way of setting hall effect keys as controller joystick. which for me is the most interesting application for magnetic switches (tho this clearly varies from person to person).
what other keyboard apart from keychron can set controller joystick for magnetic switches?

>>106980322
It's ubiquitous to call TMR, hall effect right now. Hall Effect is the big buzz word and you cannot miss out on that action

Besides HE is easy to understand while TMR is confusing

>>106980461
yeah keychron also seems to do this with their latest tmr models. though it's wrong. the way tmr detects the field is fundamentally different. there's no hall effect to be found anywhere in the whole keyboard

>>106980345
>which for me is the most interesting application for magnetic switches
It's not that interesting. Analog input technology has existed for ages. There's a reason nobody ever bothered putting it on keyboards.

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>>106980838
Except they have, before you were even born.

>>106980844
Tell me which switch on that keyboard was used as an analog input.

>>106980857
All of them, because it uses hall effect switches, which are analog.

>>106980861
If you program a keyboard to interpret them into binary states of on and off, then it is a binary input, imbecile.

>>106980865
Be more specific as to what you mean next time, midwit. "Analog input" can mean more than one thing.

>>106980891
Let's assume that my post was ambiguous, for the sake of argument. Then you had two choices:

- Interpret my post as saying something factually correct, which directly speaks to the point to which it was a reply
- Interpret my post as saying something wildly and obviously incorrect which would actually be a weaker argument (if the technology DID exist to do this in keyboards, and was never used in this way, then this is a stronger argument for its uselessness than if the technology had just never been developed)

I do not, personally, think that in careful speech "analog input" can mean "an analog input device" or "an analog signal". But I'll grant that this is not a forum where you can expect careful speech from everyone. Still, between the two interpretations you chose the one that was by far the less plausible, because you did not stop to consider whether you might be talking to someone who isn't retarded.

Is that an understandable mistake on /g/? Of course. But no, I'm not going to "be more specific next time". It was YOUR mistake, and YOU are the one who gets to learn from it about how to behave next time.

>>106980969
I'm glad for you bro, or I'm sorry that happened. Either way I'm not reading all of your rambling.

>>106980980
Longer posts expose more weak flanks to attack. Real internet arguers know this. I never complain when I get a text wall. That text can't all be right.

>>106980891
>"Analog input" can mean more than one thing.
Not talking about the anal log inputs you take every night.

>>106980838
it certainly is useful in some cases. there's a reason joysticks exists. else they'd be binary as well. having "more of that action" depending how much you actuate the input is useful
an it's not only about the analog input, these switches also allow you to set actuation point, anywhere in the range of the analog input. seems to help some people make less mistakes while writing etc
for me there's an extra function that needs to be solved with keyboards. haptic feedback. I saw there's some piezo haptic devices that are small enough to fit under the switch. could work

>>106981249
>having "more of that action" depending how much you actuate the input is useful
Not generally regarded so in the history of keyboards, but we'll see whether some of these new fads in gaming stick. I can see a niche in some racing games, maybe, for the handful of people who like to play them with mouse and keyboard.

>>106981835
they've been banned in some online games already, they're so effective they're considered cheating. not for the analog spectrum input, for the other stuff that it enables.

>>106981857
such as?

>>106980844
>rub out
why yes, I do think I will.

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Updoot!!! xDDD

>>106979965
Actually I got stiffed with the Antarctic set. The promo image is wildly off for the blue alphas but whatever, it's not a dogshit clone so it's cool. I'll post a comparison later today

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As advertised.

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Light blue IRL. Thankfully it fits with the mods and the orange so I got lucky.

>>106982113
>https://www.hltv.org/news/39532/as-the-keyboard-debate-continues-tournament-organizers-say-play-on
>"The advantages are brutal, you can feel a big difference and it really feels like CS:GO movement. But considering I read that these are pretty much the movement aliases that are banned at tournaments, it doesn't make sense to me that this would be allowed, and they should ban it, in my opinion. It's an extreme advantage in tier one."

>https://www.club386.com/valve-outright-bans-razers-new-keyboard-feature-in-cs2/
>An evolution of Huntsman V3 Pro’s rapid trigger, Snap Tap Mode is Razer’s proprietary feature that promotes non-overlapping movement. Usually, a keyboard needs to finish registering an input before accepting a new one, but Snap Tap immediately prioritises the latest press. This means you can switch direction instantly when strafing from A to D to A again.
>Wooting quickly followed with an update to its Hall Effect keyboards, dubbing a similar feature SOCD. It works slightly differently but with the same outcome. No other brand has revealed plans to join the wave, but it seems like an inevitability at this point.
>Pros worldwide flocked to dub the features cheating, referring to them as hardware-based null binds. True to their name, null binds essentially use console commands to disable multiple key inputs for faster reaction times and are banned in competitive play.

>>106982677
Razer going ahead of Wooting? Good thing their keyboards are getting better, if only for gaming.

>>106965093
I use an HHKB for work, 50% of it is programming, the other 50% is meeting or preparing or talking about the meetings that are coming or that just happened.

Anyway, the HHKB had a learning curve to it for sure. I had already spent years on TKL or shorter boards so losing a keypad was no biggie. I still have a separate keypad for every now and then but I find myself mostly typing numbers on the top row (you can get very quick with it)

What took me a long time is the remapping of Ctrl and having to use the Fn key next to right Shift and re-learning arrows, pg up/down, home/end. I've always relied on all those keys to move around and highlight or delete text. I was making mistakes constantly and having to think about it for probably the first two months.

Now, seven months in, it's second nature, I don't think about it anymore than I consciously think about where the next key I need to press is on the board.

>>106982882
they were the first with analog switches, but they were optical and held the patent for it, so nobody else could get on it. but they were that good, yes. that's why the rest went with hall effect. probably.

Razer Joro looks hot, might get one

>>106982677
how do analogue switches feel compared to cherry red and brown?

>>106984190
they're linear so probably similar to reds. but I don't yet have a magnetic switch keyb so someone else might know better

>>106984190
I have their analog gamepad, which feels like typing on a pez dispenser

desu I was expecting magnetic switches to replace the spring, with magnetic repulsion. like when pressing the key to feel like pressing two magnets that repel eachother.

>>106982677
But as everyone already knows, snap tap was something that used to exist as a script. It is not in any way related to analog input tech. You can program any QMK keyboard to do it, too. The thing that made it illegal in CS was that the big "innovation" here was taking old banned scripts and moving them to the firmware side, and pretending this made it OK because now it's a hardware innovation. CS stood firm and said no, banned cheats do not become OK when they're sold as a keyboard feature.

>>106984341
I never interacted with one

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>>106984840
I'm.... I'm sorry anon...

is it ok to just remove the keycaps and switches and wipe the dust from the top case with a dry cloth? no need to use a vacuum, right?

>>106985252
Removing the switches? lol, if you're taking apart the whole board then yeah you have a lot of options about how to clean it, probably no need to ask here.

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is this the best tester?

>>106956118
what gay keyboard is this? And does it feel good to type on? Not that clickity shit either

>>106982355
>>106982334
These pictures are taken under such wildly different conditions as far as lighting and context that it's hard for me to draw any conclusions from them. If you took a picture of one of the keycap trays on a neutral sort of surface (not blazing orange keyboard) with the exposure turned down a little to match the darker photography of the swagkeys image, then it would be easier to decide whether the store picture was faithful or not.

>>106985433
No, 'cause it looks like there's a whole lot of redundant switches that are just the same thing but from a different brand. The best tester is one where you can pick out whichever switches you're interested in.

>>106985433
definition of e-waste right there

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Top: the tastefully dark blue keycaps they sold me
Bottom: the unfortunately light-blue keycaps when they arrived. Alas, I was misled.

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>Hmm, you're right. I managed to find a used seller for a Geon F1-8X V2 which I've been wanting, so I think that will work better. I also bought some Swagkeys Arctic to mix in, I think it works really well.

>>106985433
These are relics held over from an era when hotswap keyboards didn't exist

>>106985863
>>106985900
>>106986199
give me the best way to test switches then, help me

Any decent silent hall effect keyboards out there that aren't very overpriced?

>>106986383
You just put switches into a hotswap board anon. You buy switches that look interesting to you and put them on your hotswap board.

>>106985555
Its the legendary magic refiner. It's a highly underrated budget brand

>>106987622
sounds expensive and time consuming to me, but I may be wrong

Aula F75 or Kisnt KN85 for a work keyboard?

>>106987732
If you have a keyboard with hotswap already, it's not a big deal. Switches can be bought for 1 switch each on sites like Milktooth, or in packs of 5 or 10 like that. Real cheap. Don't bother going by the specs, just get some of the popular ones so you know you're starting out with switches that are available and those you can buy more of later if you really like them. Do you type on linears, clickies or what? What's your experience on mechanical keyboards so far? I'll help you out best I can

>>106986189
Yeah, yeah, but come now. No one who's knee-deep enough to buy a V2 is gonna sell it off, not so easily anyway. Besides, I'm coping with poorly matched keys rn as I'm saving up to CONSOOM some GMKs for my boards. Won't have to worry about teal anymore when I load the bitch up with GMK Electric.
Damn sweet renders though, what's your ideal pick on the teal in case you got an idea of something better suited than Electric?

>>106987732
It is. Don't bother. Decide whether you want clicky, linear, or tactile, and just buy a popular one. If you are dissatisfied with it, then you buy a different one in the direction of what you want.

You don't get a proper impression of typing on a switch by testing one switch. Switch testers are far more likely to lead you to a bad purchase than just listening to the recommendations of people who already wasted all their money trying everything.

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rec me a keyboard
> preferred less $100
>Libya (but it's not important because i have freight forwarder addresses in most major countries)
>i have been using cherry browns for a while but want to try Blues
>prefer ISO
>%75 with volume knob
>backlight not important
>current keyboard Logitech G710+

>>106987945
>Do you type on linears, clickies or what? What's your experience on mechanical keyboards so far? I'll help you out best I can
thanks. my first was cherry red. it was okay. next it was razer yellow, the clicky ones). I like the bump, and I liked the reds, I do not like the click.
I wanted to test many switches because there's a lot of room for preference, for example the bump location for browns and such. I think I want low bump. I also would enjoy reds but with more resistance. and then theres acoustics too.
in the meantime, I developed a dislike for coarse keycaps (is it called doubleshot pbt?) but keycaps are another story.

>>106987989
>You don't get a proper impression of typing on a switch by testing one switch
Ive had this thought. perhaps I should get some black hotswappable rgb keyboard and purchase at least 10 switches of each design. I know I do not want anything clicky for sure.

>>106988291
Well then Milktooth and other switch sites are your friends. Get a keyboard after searching for what's available, lots of good stuff on the market these days. Three or four switches in a row, keep going over them with one of your fingers again and again (with keycaps on). You'll get an innate feel of the downstroke and upstoke and bottoming out and the different materials, how they sound against the keycap and all. In a very short while, you'll know which ones your finger fancies. I'd recommend HMX and Gateron if availability is an issue. If not, go wild and have fun discovering! If you pick, say, Gateron smoothies/Gateron sea salt smoothies/BSUN Raw/HMX Xinhai/HMX FJ400, you'll like at least one of these well enough to buy a whole set for your keyboard. I was a lifelong clicker and these converted me wholly, so I'm confident they're great for most people.

>>106988437
wallet hurts due to this keyboard stuff but hopefully I will elevate in 2026 thanks to your advice and testing

Whoever makes the next thread do better than the magic retainer. It wasn't an easily identified keyboard silhouette and was hard to locate in the catalog

>>106988873
The name is right there on the spacebar.

>>106987260
no HE silent switches but Air75 HE has low profile HE switches so could be more silent than regular ones.

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I'd like black matte ceramic caps, but with white see through ceramic legends. and some SA profile

>>106988873
>Can't find thread
>retainer
Get your eyes checked

>>106989115
>low profile HE switches
talk about memes on top of memes

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>>106989340
>>106980322

bros, I need switch recommendations. Clicky or tactile, doesn't matter, I just want something where the bump is pretty far into the press and a sharp/smaller bump, like blues. So far the only somewhat promising recommendations I've gotten are box white v2s and melodics. For whatever fucktarded reason, it seems like most tactiles never have any pretravel. I've been using penguins and they're pretty good but I want a sharper bump.

>>106988291
If you know you don't want clicky I'd just start by getting a really good basic linear like Gateron X, with your standard 4mm travel 2mm actuation depth rail-bottom-out nylon housing sort of deal. If you don't like the weight of its springs you can buy exactly the spring weight/length you want and spring swap them, which is a lot cheaper than buying another set of switches. Other than that the only way linears really vary is housing materials, pole bottom-out, travel length, actuation depth, lubing, stem wobble... and that stuff mostly doesn't matter so much, it's not going to make a difference to whether you like typing on linears. If you discover you want "that marbly poppy sound" other people have (yuck) or like the idea of the switch not bottoming out so deep, etc., you can move on to trying other linears. But if you discover you want a tactile switch, then your next step is to buy a tactile switch.

If they make more Lichix Raw Silents, their big bump tactile is what I'd try next. Sold out right now, sadly. If it's too tactile, you know that you want something less tactile. If it's not tactile enough, you can still go for something like a boba u4 or u4t. If you like the silenced feel (and these are the best silent feel you're going to get from just about any silent switch at the moment) then you've learned that you like silent switches. If you miss the loud bottom-out of your Gateron X, then you've learned you don't like silent switches.

Now with only buying two sets of switches, you know for sure whether you like silents or not; whether you like tactiles or not; whether you like your tactiles light, medium, or heavy; what is the difference between a very smooth travel (Gat X) and a less smooth one (Licix); maybe more. At this point, if you are not simply happy with the two sets of very top-tier switches you own, you are at least very close to knowing exactly what you want.

>>106989888
Melodics aren't that deep into the press. In spite of that I like them, but it's not what you're looking for, and they're VERY tactile.

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>>106987986
>what's your ideal pick on the teal
On the F1-8X V2 in "mint", or the peacock Cycle8?

On the mint, maybe picrel, CYL Metropolis Midnight Base, in-stock from Novelkeys. NO accents or novelties. This would be a "fun" set.

If I was down to gamble, which I'm not sure I am, I might try my luck ordering Signature Plastics DCS flex set in their mint color: https://spkeyboards.com/collections/keycap-sets/products/dcs-abs-flex-kits?variant=50523949793558
Or maybe just the mint alert row and a DCS Intro Beige set, if anyone still has those for sale. Actually that's probably what I'd do.

On the peacock, I don't know. I'd probably just put some beige or WoB on since I usually have a set lying around, then wait for something perfect to come along someday in the future. There's no rush.

>>106990393
By small I mean in span of the length of the press. I don't mind if the bump is large on the force curve.

Why do people use stabilisers? I don't.

>>106990719
that's because you're unstable

>>106980844
I got the MTNU Space Cadet set, but maaan, he really needed to commit to doing an MT3 set a while ago. Preferably made out of the same 100% doubleshot PBT, too, except with the somewhat coarse texture the other MT3 sets have. I'd fucking cum everywhere.

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>>106988049
Recommendation: Don't ditch your G710+. Give it a good clean and keep it.
Anyway, there's quite a few 75% boards with knobs all over the net, hotswap too. Blues are fine, but there are other clickies like Kailh's clickbar switches, or other click jackets like Blues, like Outemu Phoenix or TKC Blackberry.
Picrel gives you room to try some Kailh Box Whites or their other clickbar switches, or other clicky switches of your choosing. 81 switches is what you'll need, and you'll almost always have to buy a little more than 90 as most vendors only sell switches in batches/multiples.

How is this still up

>>106990407
Yeah, beige is the least offensive color I can think of, especially with Jindos.