>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.
Nova Lake 2026


>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Benchmarks
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/
https://www.techpowerup.com/

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love my Inno3D 5070 and it's shitty fan curve that goes from 0 to 1400 RPM then back to 0 at idle juggling between 39 and 51 degrees

retarded OP recommending turing cards in 2025

>>106966290
>Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op
i hate that im saying this cause the amd op faggot was annoying but the bit about the 9070/xt has no place on the op and the 9060xt and the 9070xt should be somewhere in the gpu section
Just fucking stop being bitches

>>106966278
Motherfuckers nobody told me to check the ventirad condom. All laugh though thanks for the help

>>106966325
and it's funny because used Ampere cards of the same tiers (3060 12GB, 3070, 3080 Ti 12GB) are actually great value and still very capable at 1080p, the 3080 Ti even at 1440p because it's better than a 5060 Ti kek

>>106966325
Turing are some of the best budget used cards around. There’s almost nothing you can’t make a 2060s run if you’re willing to butcher the resolution. Turing has aged like fine wine. I just sold mine during rdna4 launch and got almost as much as I paid for it since demand was so high.

>>106966324
That's what you get when you fall for the "card models don't matter" meme.

>>106966374
eh it works fine otherwise, I've read some models don't have a 0 RPM mode at all so they're constantly making sound

>>106966324
Zero rpm is dogshit on most cards unless they have a thick heatsink.

>>106966374
The SKU matters less than the AIB, I’d point to the OP and its gigabyte GPU section for proof of that.

>>106966386
Thermal mass only buys you more time before fans kick in, it’s surface area that can prevent you from needing them all together in some instances.

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Fuck GeForce and consoomer cards, my 2022 3060 Ti I paid like $750 at the time for is shitting its self again either when rendering, prompting SD for too long, or now it's throwing access violation errors in Blender even with Afterburner closed.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE JUST RECOMMEND ME A RELIABLE GPU TO RENDER WITH??? I don't care if I have to go pro at this point. I'm fucking tired of having broken card after card for the last 7 years.

>>106966278
Some threads ago someone told me that i have to drop the power limit on a RX 9070 XT by 20-30%. Anyone idea why?

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>Rushes out a new thread
>Didn't enter thread name
>Recommending 14900K
NGMI

>>106966473
You can get a more efficient card by dropping the power limit for sure but it’s not going to be any faster. Something to do if heat, noise or power consumption is a problem for you.

>>106966481
just make a new one and direct everyone there

>>106966481
>Didn't enter thread name
Yes, you're welcome.

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Chinkshit my beloved

>>106966473
Touching the power limit up or down is a easy way to increase or decrease performance. If you want more you would undervolt. Most 9070xts can do -20mv no problem just like Ryzen can do -20 co.

>>106966584
Why does every AMDfag mention undervolting to anons who don’t even know what overclocking is? Those users don’t need any potential instability problems from undervolting.

>>106966568
anon dont put pineapple slices in your computer

Oh jeez oh golly oh my goodness
My new gayming peecee is on its way to meeeee

>>106966599
AMD encourages you to use PBO and Adrenaline and EXPO because it just works if you have the correct settings.

>>106966611
Both automatic features that do the work for you and come with warranty support. Undervolting your GPU (what we’re actually talking about) does not. You’re seriously recommending that an anon who doesn’t know what a power limit does try and find himself a stable undervolt profile? Fucking kek.

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>>106966630
AMD has automatic tuning for their GPUs because they are that confident it just works.

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>>106966228
lol
well
what are the temps on it now then

>>106966637
If they where that confident the GPUs would just run with lower voltage at the factory.
Having to enable it after the fact puts the onus on you for why the shit happens to not work

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>>106966657
Was testing it. BF6 on high, 100% util, did not touch 80°C for 20m, case closed.

I booted idling at 45°C and now I'm idling at 52°C, slowly passing under the 50°C.
CPU fans around 1100 RPM. I'd aim lower but a friend with 9800X3D and a 3080ti has the same speeds on a modern bigger tower, so for now it'll be alright.

GPU is 4 degrees higher than usual but it's still not triggering the native fan curve, it's at 0 RPM.

My next upgrades would be a case, and some kind of top exhaust/front intake, and I learn that the choice of motherboard is important if you want to stick 2 SSD coolers without problems and not having your GPU french kissing the CPU ventirad.
I also learn like in codding, if it's not the semicolon misplaced, it's the fucking ventirad plastic film.

I had to remove the GPU for every CPU fan adjustment. What a pain.

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>>106966611
>because it just works
No, they don't. The 9070s were boosting too high at stock settings to the point of instability.
https://www.reddit.com/r/radeon/comments/1knkvms/rx_9070_xt_is_boosting_to_almost_3300mhz/

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The aggressive boosting is still not fully fixed.

>>106966752
>GPU is 4 degrees higher than usual
Probably because the CPU isn't thermally throttling anymore and is passing more work to the GPU.

>>106966473
Since the 9070 XT is pushed way past the power/performance curve, it doesn't make sense trying to get any more by pushing it even higher unless you're chasing world record benchmarks.
So reducing the power limit followed by lowering the voltage curve is the way to go. Doing the latter keeps the performance the same as with the higher power limit, or goes even higher still depending on silicon quality.

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hairchasers caught faking amdip haha its over inteltards

>>106966890
why do you bother watching it then

what should I do with an i7 4790, a z87 board and 32gb of ram? sell it or repurpose it into a budget media server?

>>106967180
what exactly is a media server
you connect it from your phone via 5g or something?

>>106967180
*z97

>>106966890
I knew there was a reason I didn't like him, my snakedar is tuned.

>>106967185
put a big hard drive in it and run plex or jellyfin
stream videos to your tv or phone or whatever
share with friends too

>>106967276
right
I would default to a pc being connected to a tv via hdmi cable or something

>>106966278
Haven't built in a million years, seems like 4 sticks won't actually run at 6000 with AMD AM5?

>>106966752
Yeah on modern boards there's usually an ssd with a heatsink sitting between the CPU/Cooler and the GPU

Modern components don't play nicely with old cases, it's why autists like gamersnexus screeched so much about airflow and cooling

>>106966767
a card being so shit the seller begs to take it back so he can do his own autism experiments on it

So without pandering to everyone's information about PCI-E 5.0 on PCI-E 3.0 being a huge loss - how bad is it to run a 5.0 card on 3.0 slot?

I only use a maximum of 68% of my PCI-E 3.0 bus with a 3.0 card under my normal usage. Nothing I do has ever broken past 68%. I assume with a 5.0 card, it'll be 100% of the PCI-E 3.0 lane but for much much shorter times because it'll transfer all the data over faster. Assuming I do the exact same things I'm doing right now.

>>106967447
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1NPFFRTzLo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LhS0_ra9c4

>>106967481
So I skimmed these videos, looks like they're all benchmarks and not real world usage. Keep in mind, I've got 1080p, 60Hz, with v-sync on. I assume I'm fine with 5.0 on 3.0

>>106967405
>Modern components don't play nicely with old cases
Depends on the case.
Not filling your fan slots and and using old fans will always suck
Anon literally has 3 empty holes which would all be beneficial with a fan in. Replacing the front fans with some higher pressure ones will also help

>>106967447
it's fine so long as it's not x8

>>106967511
what you mean not real world usage
its literally how the games perform
you may want to avoid getting a card that only has 8 lanes but otherwise you'll be fine

>>106966481
>Rushes
Blame nicoposter
>Didn't enter thread name
It's an experiment, I believe that just removing the name or any mention of the word "general" will immediately cutdown on 90% of schizo posting.
>i9
Yes

>>106967587
>>106967619
It should be okay. All my games only go up to about 32% pci-e 3.0 bandwidth currently. Loading a model in stable diffusion is the only thing that makes it go all the way up to 68% but once the model is loaded, the bandwidth never goes very high. No matter what I do (that isn't a benchmark) can never get the bus to hit 100%. Adobe After Effects (the main reason for my workstations in general) barely use any bandwidth as well.
Here's the "new" rig I'm working on using used ebay parts, minus the GPU: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/trRQWc

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>>106967664
>Best PCIe card available
>One of the best ATX 3.x PSU available
>In that system.
Lmao what a build.

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I'm reaching pc building prep overload. For months on end all I do is browse this general and other forums and watch youtube guides. I've watched my particular case install at least 10 times. Every day I find something new, like today I found out I need 2 flash drives because you have to have a specific one for flashing the bios and some other format for installing windows. Feel like I'm barely juggling all the info in my head and I have to keep going over it or I'll forget something.
Ordering the parts was so simple compared to actually building and configuring the thing. It feels like a looming nightmare, going to have to borrow a friends laptop just so I'll have some sort of internet after the build so I can google and troubleshoot. I'll probably be asking a million questions along the way hope you guys don't hate me. My brother and friend both bailed on helping me build so I'm doing it completely solo. Just hope my fat fingers can get to those little fan plugs. I've never done this before so I'm really nervous, so much money that could be blown if I fuck up.

>>106967765
Bro, I keep seeing those new blackwell cards melting PSU cables, so I wanted to be extra sure

I got a thermalright phase change pad and upsiren putty for a gpu
Is there anything special I should know about the process?

>>106967844
>putty
good luck

>>106967812
you got this anon, don't worry about a thing (other than bending processor pins)

>>106967882
I suffered a lot trying to figure out the exact thermal pad thickness for my gpu and ordering several different pads would cost more, and different sources gave different numbers and the manufacturer doesnt have a guide for it.
Reddit said putty is safer

>>106967812
>>Ordering the parts was so simple compared to actually building and configuring the thing.
for me it's the opposite
building is easy part choice is a nightmare

>>106967882
alright
what's /pcbg/'s beef with putty?

>>106967914
To be fair picking the parts wasn't easy either but I did it over a long period of time. Like the last two years I've been refining my build. So when I was finally ready to buy it was pretty easy I knew exactly what I wanted.

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Havent paid attention to Intel since Raptor Lake. I owned a 12900k which I was really happy with, tho I did have a ginormous custom loop. For financial reasons, I downgraded to a prebuilt with 11700.

I am about ready to build again. I have a low profile ITX case I want to use. Is Intel a reasonable choice right now for a SFF build like this? Or will their next gen be? Basically looking for generally low power consumption/ low heat output.

Peak all-core power consumption is one thing, but idle and maxed out single core are also important.

So does Intel have or will they have something soon that has some merit over an AM5 build, particularly regarding power consumption in a SFF build?

pic not related.

>>106967918
bad lube, doesn't feel nearly as good going in.

>>106967931
>For financial reasons
The electricity would have to be cut off for me to dare give up my PC

>>106967937
I was unemployed so yea, i needed to eat.
sold things way more important than my PC

>>106967987
You should value your anal virginity brother, you only get to give that up once. Hope you got a good price for it.

>>106967931
>I have a low profile ITX case
what case

>>106967931
Only thing Intel does better than AMD right now is memory controllers, and most ITX boards don't have four memory slots anyway so you won't even notice the difference. Now is a terrible time to buy though, Blackwell is Nvidia's worst release since Fermi and RDNA 4 isn't any better although AMD is starting to get their shit together. At least wait for Blackwell refresh with 50% more VRAM.

Just bought a 9800x3d last week. Now I'm hearing a 9850x3d is coming and it's going to be way more powerful? Should I return the 9800 and wait? Will it be the same price or way more expensive? When should it be coming?

>>106968043
>9850x3d is coming and it's going to be way more powerful?
It already exists and it is, marginally.

>>106968077
Where? Never heard of it before it was mentioned in the previous thread.

>>106968078
sorry, my high ass meant 9950x3d. Carry on.

>Ryzen 9 9950X3D2

nice naming scheme tards

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>>106966278
I purchased most of this in November 2023.

>>106968043
It'll be announced at CES in January, Lisa Su is giving the keynote so it'll get a quick 10 second mention before she talks about AI for 2 hours

>>106968141
Whatever, I waited 12 years I can't wait any longer. If I bought in at the worst time than fuck me I guess. Nothing else in my life has gone right so why should this.

>>106968130
I got that same ram and the wd drive, how have they been for you?

>>106968155
No complaints whatsoever

7800x3d is back down to $360, buy now or wait and hope it drops to $320 again sometime soon?

>>106968222
hold it all drops on BF

>>106968222
Don't buy anything until november sales start. And be sure to check multiple sites including microcenter. Some places will let you price match so even if you buy from one you can get it matched to a cheaper price elsewhere. I got my cpu from best buy but they matched microcenters price and I saved 70 dollars.

>>106967819
It’s a beast of a system, keep that card safely powered lol.

>>106967931
Arrow Lake is fairly power efficient, better than Raptor Lake.
Gaming performance is kind of underwhelming.

>>106968130
It’s still a good PC. Don’t upgrade the CPU until Zen 6 X3D benchmarks are out.

>>106968308
I'm from NZ so my US buying options are pretty much limited to Amazon. Otherwise I would have already bought it from MSI with one of their motherboard combo deals. Local prices are equivalent to ~$450 USD so not really a good option. The only other place that delivers here is Newegg but the shipping costs are too high. Kinda wondering if I should get a 9600x or something and wait for Zen6.

>>106968364
I would say if you can play the games you want to play now just wait. If you can't do what you want to do at any settings than either go all out now or get something just to limp by for a couple more years.

Just learning about about SMT but it's hard to get a straight answer about it's usefulness. Some say it gives you a lot more fps others say it makes games worse. Anyone have an opinion on it? Is it something I should worry about when building a new system? I'm honestly not sure I understand what it really does, something about virtual cores? What does that even mean?

>>106968416
It depends on the game.
CS2 used to run better with SMT disabled, but this may have changed since Valve has been addressing performance issues with the title.
If you’re confused, leave it on.
The devs are supposed to code their games to run well with SMT.
PlayStation and Xbox consoles have mobile Ryzen CPUs with SMT.

Question about BIOS flashing and windows install. Guides I've watched say I need 2 thumb drives, one to install the bios because it needs fat32 and one to install windows because it uses NTFS.
But couldn't I partition the drive and make one part fat32 and put the bios update in there and leave the rest for windows and other updates and only have to use one drive for all my updating? Or is there some reason that wouldn't work?

>>106966890
>retsrd can’t tell the difference between MHz and MT/s

>>106966890
tranny, you have just BTFO yourself, 6000MT/s is 3000MHz
ram is DOUBLE DATA RATE
moronic tranny

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>>106967996
i mean i sold firearms

>>106968005
certain optiplex were standard ITX/mATX

>>106968779
So why does it show 4896 MHz instead of 3200 MHz?

>>106968793
because he was running it at blazing fast 9800MT/s

Reading through the previous thread and before that I swear everyone said to use afterburner. Now apparently any stats monitoring if you have an AMD cpu is going to tank your system? There was so much argument I don't know what to think. What should I do when I build my new comp? Could I just use games built in fps counter or steams?

>>106968806
disable the power monitoring and its fine

>>106968810
What's the best program to monitor that stuff? Is afterburner ok if I don't do the wattage monitor or should I use something else? I'll be on winblows 11 because I'm an old boomer.

>>106968704
Depends on how smart your BIOS is about finding its updates. On my newest mobos it can just read directly off of internal drives, you don't even need any USB drive at all.

With the Windows installer, all the tools for making install drives for Windows just assume you give them the whole drive. It may be possible to partition it and boot the installer (maybe, never tried) but you're just complicating your life for literally no reason. Just use 2 drives, or use the same drive, just install one thing and then reflash the drive for the other one. It's not like you literally need 2 drives at the same time.

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>>106968820
what program you use doesn't really matter
run hwinfo and enable profiling time
that will show you which sensors consume the most time
this will correlate to the sensors in afterburner as well
but do you really need a bunch of sensors running all the time?

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>>106968900
as you can see the % of TDP sensor takes an unusually high time to profile

>>106968851
Alright thanks, I'll just dig up a smaller drive for the bios.

>>106968900
>but do you really need a bunch of sensors running all the time?
I have no idea, just saw most of the previous thread was devoted to fighting about this subject so I thought it might be important. I've never had a system that could play these kind of games so I don't really know what I might need. Figure it could be useful to know if my stuff was getting too hot or something so I could know to check on it I guess.

>>106968806
You just have to uncheck the "GPU Power %" sensor in Afterburner / RTSS and in other hardware monitoring tools.
This video explains it pretty clearly.
https://youtu.be/h6642umBeYM?t=121

I'm guessing that specific sensor is either old junk that never got removed or NVIDIA kept it for troubleshooting purposes.

>>106968952
sure if you want to have like a temperature sensor go for it - as you can see it takes 0ms
but you don't need to be monitoring every single thing all the time, as its just pointless overhead

>>106968793
A lot of websites and apps make that mistake.
Even Windows was reporting memory speed as MHz instead of MT/s until last year or so.
https://www.kingston.com/en/blog/pc-performance/mts-vs-mhz
https://www.tomshardware.com/software/windows/microsoft-is-switching-ram-speed-units-in-task-manager-finally-moving-to-the-more-technically-correct-mts

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>>106969003
>>106968798
>>106968779
Even if you swap MT for MHz I don't think those numbers are accurate, because apparently theres almost nobody running 6000 MT while there also being people running 16000 MT

>>106969062
The memory config in your screenshot should be running at 8000MT/s.
That website isn't maintaining the unit properly.

See HWBot's memory benchmark records; it's accurately reporting MHz.
https://hwbot.org/

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>>106968960
Ok I watched the video and read a lot of the comments and now I'm freaking out wondering if I made the wrong choice. These posts in particular it seems like even without these monitoring systems the 9800 has issues. I completely stayed away from Intel because of that issue they had with some cpu burning up a while back and also their naming convention was so complicated. Everyone was saying the x3d cpus were the best for gaming so I just went with that. I bought the cpu and motherboard but I haven't put it all together yet. I don't do anything but gaming no coding or ai or anything else. Should I consider sending them back and swapping to an intel cpu? If I did which one would be best for my interests and what potential downsides could it have? Are there issues particular to their cpu's?

>>106969098
You are worrying too much. The benefits of the X3D chip outweigh all those niggles.
The only issue I'd have with the AM5 platform is the longer memory training times, but it's a minor nuisance.

The power% thing also affects Intel CPUs; it costs about the same CPU time to report that data.

>>106969098
To follow up on some quick googling I've done it looks like the closest equivalent to the 9800 is the i7-14700K. But isn't that the one that was having all those issues? Is that something that got solved with updates? It's a lot cheaper than the 9800, would be nice if I could switch to it and gain performance. But I feel like I don't know enough to make a correct decision, this whole issue I wasn't even aware of until just now.

>>106969098
you're freaking out over nothing

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>>106969098
You don't really have a lot of Intel options that are beginner-friendly anyway.
It's either the 14600K or the 265K; neither of them will run games better than a 9800X3D.

14th-gen i7s and i9s require manual tuning to make them run more power efficiently.
And you need to know how to manually overclock the CPU and memory to make up for the memory latency deficit in Arrow Lake CPUs.

>>106969134
>But isn't that the one that was having all those issues? Is that something that got solved with updates?
There were microcode fixes that put a stricter limit on how much voltage these CPUs could request.
But the BIOS updates that packaged these microcodes were lazily implemented by all motherboard manufacturers.

Long story short, the board manufacturers just let the CPUs ask for more voltage than they need at higher workloads (within safe limits) to make sure even the worst 13th/14th gen CPUs can stably run on their boards.
The chips run even more power inefficiently with those BIOS updates than the launch version of the BIOS.

https://community.intel.com/t5/Mobile-and-Desktop-Processors/Intel-Core-13th-and-14th-Gen-Desktop-Instability-Root-Cause/m-p/1633442
https://community.intel.com/t5/Mobile-and-Desktop-Processors/Intel-Core-13th-and-14th-Gen-Vmin-Shift-Instabilty-Update-New/m-p/1686948
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9slwXKUwmnE

7800x3d should be fine in my asrock b650m-hdv m2 right? I haven't heard of the dead cpu issue effecting 7800x3d

>>106969231
you def want v2 of 9800x3d instead

>>106969231
It should be fine. Update the BIOS before you install the CPU.

What's the best method to backup datas (Programs, Pictures, Videos, Settings...) on PC?
Should I just buy a 5 TB external HDD and copy/paste on it?
Also any way to encrypt it?

Is the gap between 5060 Ti (500€) and 5070 Ti (900€) big enough considering the price?

>>106969256
>5060 Ti (500€) and 5070 Ti (900€)
Both are way overpriced. 500€ should be the cost of a 5070 (or cheaper).

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>>106969298
yeah 5060 ti is bad
5070 is best value, at least in finland
but you might as well wait for the super revisions that come out in few months

Fuck it, the whole pc is here already just waiting to be built. I can't deal with a bunch of returns and relearning a bunch of new shit to maybe make things better. If my new computer is a stuttery mess than it will just feel like home because that's what I've been used to for 12 years.
The more I learn about computers the more I wish I had just been a nintenbab. Console gamers live in a magical land of ignorant bliss where you insert your cartridge/disc and it just works.

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Currently had to deal with my PC going bye-bye, had to downgrade from Ryzen 5 3600 to Ryzen 3 3200G out of necessity. I have a decent enough budget for a mid-tier, so should I just rebuy a 3600 or do I go ahead and buy an upgrade?

>>106969545
get 5700x3d or a new platform

>>106969545
If you need a more affordable CPU, consider 5600X, 5700X, or the 5800XT.
Those three have been discounted recently.

>>106969663
Considering highly the 5600X as well since it's been recommended by me when I asked for a second opinion. Might get that when internet shops go on sale here in Filipinoland

My flat 10 oz. Dell keyboard coming in clutch every time a keyboard fags out on me because the back crimps a wittle bit.

>>106969357
You just buy shit and out it together, mate.
Relax and remember that the tongue holds power. The Lord said so. Do not curse yourself.

real thread with subject line btw
>>106970047
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>>106967812
For me flashing the bios was nerve wracking since i hadn't done it before and you dont get any kind of interface to check what you are doing beyond a blinking light
But it just worked
I believe in you anon, having internet access with your mate's laptop is a good idea so would be trying to recruit a friend that has a bit more of an idea but i see your brother has abandoned you like a craven coward.
You got this

>>106969545
I would check for a 2nd hand cpu and keep saving money to eventually transition to a new build on am5
any 5xxx cpu will do you do fine

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7700 or 7800x3d depending on budget and need
b650 or b850 depending on budget
nvme1tb or 2tb depending on budget
2x16gb 6000/30 ram
9060xt 9070xt 5060TI 5070TI depending on budget and need (only real decision to make)
750w or 850w psu
well reviewed case that fits your aesthetics, if aesthetics is no concern Montech air 903, maybe a pack of fans.

If i just want a vydia and goonstation machine.... thats all right? It is that simple?

>>106970375
You forgot about cheap dual tower cooler.
Other than that you would want more storage, even spinning rust but you can buy it later on.
But yea, building PCs never been easier.

>>106969098
calm down
AMD is fine and so is X3D
Intel currently have what is basically a laptop chip overclocked. Shit Wendell just said the same himself and I know plenty of OCers who say the same about Arrow Lake. 12th-14th gen had crazy issues too and only was able to solve them by basically lobotomizing them. Honestly the other issues have been standard Ryzen issues for years and it's not like Windows is smooth on either side right now. Windows is garbage.
> I don't do anything but gaming
then a 9800X3D will serve you well for years

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Let me guess.... you need more

>>106971179
I want significantly less

>>106971179
looks like unicorn assholes

>>106970693
>and it's not like Windows is smooth on either side right now. Windows is garbage.
If Windows is truly giving you issues, your hardware needs to be checked.
With every retard using XMP/EXPO or PBO shit i have to question how many "Windows" issues are just subtle instability
>haven't had a blue screen in 10 years

I intend to change my CPU in 2 months cause I got a bad 14900k and I'm kind of sick of intel at the moment. I was gonna go 9950x3D but now apparently there's gonna be a 9950x3D2 and I'm wondering if I should just get that? I don't actually need it, no one truly does probably, but I have a terminal case of "I always need the best thing". If it's gonna be like $150 more or something then fuck that, its definitely not worth it, but assuming it isn't, should I do it? I should add I have 64GB 6000MHz RAM, a Noctua D15 CPU cooler and a 4090, if that makes a difference

>>106972422
Wait longer, it's not going to be worth upgrading to anything on am5 from a 14900k

>>106972719
Well waiting is kind of out of the question though cause this fucking thing is crashing all the time now and it's driving me insane, I know it's a minor upgrade at best and a sidegrade at worst but this CPU really doesn't have too much left in it at this point.

>>106972735
Intel still lets people rma the cpus that degraded. The microcode fixed the issue, once you have your new (free) 14900k you will be good until it's time for a real upgrade.

>>106972748
yeah but then I'm without a PC for however long it takes for them to recieve the CPU, have some shithead look at it and then for the new CPU to arrive to me. I work from this thing daily so that isn't really an option and I don't exactly have anything else I could work from.

>>106972775
Will take less than 2 months, go buy a $30 laptop or hang out at the library computers like the homeless do.

>>106972422
what a weird ass post
>I intend to change my CPU in 2 months
then fucking ask about a possible x3d2 then, i mean even if any fucking body in this thread worked at amd and could tell you that the cpu releases tomorrow....
then what? what good would be that info if you are two months away from replacing the cpu?
just fucking wait until you are ready to change the cpu and then evaluate your needs
i literally dont understand your post

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kek

>>106973056
It's insane how much ram spiked in the last few weeks. I'm so lucky I bought the dip.

>>106973073
I paid $20 per 16GB DIMM for my home server
The same listing is now $38
I have 128GB so I'm happy for thr moment.

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so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.

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>mfw my 5050 still has bad drivers and super overpriced for last gen 4060 performance (should be 150 dollar gpu)

so done with these fucking crashing issues on my 5070. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones when my doom dark ages crashed and whole pc shut off, im rmaing and switching to a 9070 fuck it idc anymore.

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>>106966657
They really should make those stickers more visib...

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>>106973131

>>106973121
Do you watch a lot of anime nicobro? Or did you just like that one show and use it as your avatar? Watch anything good lately? I finally got around to watching cardcaptor sakura, it's very comfy, I'm enjoying it a lot more than I thought I would.

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>mfw my 5060 still has bad drivers and too slow for new games

>>106966657
now that the dust has settled
he was trolling right?

>>106972422
CES is in two months just wait for the announcements then Intel will likely announce the 385K too

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>>106973141
I am reading Girl's Last Tour manga rn (I managed to get all the physical volumes btw) because I loved the anime but it was an incomplete adaptation. I'm halfway through only though after months of starting it just because I play a lot of games and doing other stuff. Once I finish it I will start binge watching more animes and drinking again, I haven't even seen Hidimari Sketch yet. Btw Honoka is actually my favorite love live.

>>106973056
Yeah....I'm not building any time soon....

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I am building a new PC and I am out of touch. Is intel still better than AMD? I need intergrated graphics, no graphics card. Which motherboard+cpu should I get?

>>106973248
go amd intel is shitting the bed. more efficient processors, idk about integrated. they all have integrated but there's specific ones and sells that end in G

>>106973137
They should just do the noctua thing where a plastic tray quite literally stops you from installing the cooler.

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>>106973248
>Is intel still better than AMD
Yes
>which?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RPgYpB

>>106973248
Poster above is an intard shill ignore him. Buy a good ryzen APU.

i dont really keep up with this shit thread but how exactly is a 9070xt which has better performance than a 5070ti at a substantially lower price a bad value?

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>>106973298
>better performance
False
>lower price
$50?

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>106973321
Kill yourself

>>106973248
no gpu? get intel 265K
AMD's igpu graphics are total trash unless it's strix halo which nobody can buy

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>mfw my 5060 ti still has bad drivers and same performance as 9060 XT for 75-100 more dollars

>>106973298
It's not worth the ~$100 savings to fuck with AMD essentially.
A ~$700 GPU is already luxury territory. If your buying one, you already have money to overpay for something so what's another $100?

>>106973298
>better performance than a 5070ti
lol
buy that 9070XT then

>>106973216
I'm literally grinding my teeth trying to buy them sub-200 before it all blows out of proportion and seems like all the payment options are shitting on themselves NOW.

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>>106973339
>oy vey goyim you're already spending this much, why not just pay us another 100 dollars for the njudea card.
Slimey kike

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>>106973321
>>106973348
im literally half retarded and my 9070xt benchmarks higher than essentially every single 5070ti on the planet after ten minutes of moving sliders around

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>>106973396
>AMDUnboxed
A trustworthy non biased reviewer

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>>106973396
Same here. This score I got was not that hard to achieve.

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>>106973396
>im literally half retarded
We can tell. You're posting a benchmark literally no one else managed to reproduce.
Not to mention those benchmarks downclocked the 5070 Ti by over 300GHz, not even power-efficiency schizoes do this.

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>mfw my 5070 still has bad drivers and running out of vram on every new game at 1440p

>>106973411
>9070xt
im not seeing how nvidias inability to program their budget gpus has to do with the fact that both video game bench marks and synthetic benchmarks both indicate that the 9070xt has better performance then the 5070ti and costs 150 dollars(20%) less

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>>106973439
>tfw 5080 16gb (2025) loses to 7900xtx 24gb (2022)

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RTX NTC coming soon. This kills the radeon-troon
https://old.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1odanub/rtx_neural_texture_compression_tested_in_a_scene/

>>106973454
cool shit no dev will use like physx

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Perfectly sane Nicoshitstain shitting up someone else's /pcbg/ thread.
This is the same guy who said diverse opinions should be respected, kek.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106381779/#106386694

>>106973423
my 9070xt did 8242 very easily
>>106973432
you are illiterate and the quoted post is just saying that they falsley attributed the performance gains for amd cards to exclusively driver improvements when it could be a variety of things but does not actually state the results are not valid

>>106973445
>costs 150 dollars(20%) less
Shills are now gonna spam at you that the msrp is fake and you can't get it for this but in reality everywhere except USA and some EU countries you can get it at least 100 dollars cheaper or even the full 150 off easily. I got mine for 90 dollars cheaper in Canada only because I didn't want to wait any longer but I have seen MSRP cards pop up here even.

>>106973463
physx was/is in like every game though?

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>>106973474
keyword: was

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>>106973471
You are the illiterate one.
That pinned comment notes he was comparing past review data, which he rigged by downclocking the 5070 Ti by over -300MHz.
Relying on rigged benchmarks to prove a point, that's what Retardeons do.

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>>106973465
>This is the same guy who said diverse opinions should be respected, kek.
You're allowed to make your posts with your opinions and I respect that. I am also allowed to funpost and make you cry like the bitch you are rn in this post lmao. At work rn doing this all on paid company time btw.

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>>106973494
>Retardeons
This poster is mentally ill brandfag

>>106973494
wow, are you telling me that niconigger is dishonest?

>>106973504
Big boy is proud of earning $15 US per hour, enjoy wherever shithole you're working in.

>>106973504
>At work rn doing this all on paid company time btw.
Fantastic, a whole $15 an hour to tard wrangle + shill amd. Aren't you like 30-something

>>106973511
>brandfag
I'm very comfortable with recommending Radeon cards.
Not all Radeon card owners are Retardeons, you're just too mentally deficient to understand this.

>>106973515
I am NTA.

>>106973530
>tard wrangle
She is a nice old christian white lady that is very easy to watch thank you very much nvidijeet suboid.
>Aren't you like 30-something
I am 20 nigga

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>>106973541
Then start citing better sources. Don't act like that retard.

>>106973554
>20 years old and watching the elderly for $15 US hourly wage
Literally over before it even began.

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>mfw my $1000 5080 still has bad drivers and the $600 dollar 9070 XT is faster than it with a 5 minute easy OC

>>106973578
>oc the amd card but not the nvidia card
Fuck off hardwareunboxed

>>106973389
It's just reality
PC building is consumerist as fuck and $100 is superficial when every retard thinks they need a $300 mobo and $200 in RGB fans.

>>106973610
*downclock the nvidia card

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>>106973494
Imagine being this much of an obsessed parasocial nigger. You have been crying about this into the wind of this sithole general for MONTHS.

>>106973692
Sharing facts about HWUB's GPU review methodology in /pcbg/ is being a "parasocial nigger" in this retard's mind.
No wonder you're only qualified to look after the elderly at 20 years old.

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>mfw my 5090 still has bad drivers and missing ROPs

>>106973692
>sithole general
Seething, some regulars here are trying to help people make the most out of their PC building budget.

>>106973716
>Sharing facts about HWUB's GPU review methodology in /pcbg/
Not the niconigger but the thing you don't realize is no one here fucking cares about HUB and his shitty testing. You are just another one of the 50 spammer schizos fucking up the thread at this point. This thread is for helping people build pc's not e-celeb drama you faggot.

>>106973752
>no one here fucking cares about HUB and his shitty testing
Sure they do, that's why they bring up charts like >>106973396
It's not like I'm referencing their rigged GPU reviews out of context.

>HDD almost doubled in price since I bought some 2 years ago
jesus fucking christ what is it this time?

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>mfw my 5070ti still has bad drivers and crashing on every new game that comes out for a month straight until the AI coding the GeForce drivers manages to fix it.

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So are all 5090 doomed to die from the heat and poopie connector eventually?

Is getting 4 screens to work typically a pain in the ass?
My friend had someone in a computer shop order and build his pc and was told that it should work.
He doesn't game at all and it's just for trading view and watching a stream.
I know his video card is a 4070.

>>106973871
>He doesn't game at all and it's just for trading view and watching a stream.
Fine for this use case, things can get janky when gaming features like DSC/VRR are needed.

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>>106973871
>I know his video card is a 4070.
Yeah that is the issue. More than 3 screens on novideo is literally impossible not memeing at all. Tell him he needs to sell it and switch to an RX 9000 series gpu.

what you guys think:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15

Motherboard: ASUS ProArt X870E-CREATOR WIFI

RAM: Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6400 MHz 64 GB (2×32 GB) CL32

GPU: ASUS Dual AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX OC Edition 24 GB GDDR6

Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB NVMe PCIe 4.0 M.2 Gen4

PSU: Seasonic Prime TX-1000 (1000 W, 80 Plus Titanium)

>>106973776
AI. These days it's pretty much always AI. Seagate has their earnings call next week, easy way to make some easy cash if you're in to trading.

>>106973905
holy high end build

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>>106973776
What else buddy! I fucked up bigly waiting for a price drop and now the prices have gone up

But at least I got some pretty good deals in the july prime sale can only hope BF pulls another out the bag

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>>106973905
Get 9070 XT instead. You will regret the terrible rt performance and not having a good upscaler to fix games disgusting vaseline TAA that they call "native resolution"

>>106973849
All 12vhpwr cards are going to die
This is why Powercolor won, red devil is triple 8-pin. Sapphire Nitro will die. So will ASRock Taichi.

>>106973905
>9950X
285k

>>106973248
while currently the "meta" on consumer grade cpu is going with amd am5 integrated graphics might be the outlier case where an intel cpu might be better if you gonna use it fully
Anyhow for amd am5 you would want an 8700G cpu and any b650/b850 board, if you want intel what this anon said is fine >>106973279

>>106973905
>what you guys think:
i think that this reads like a shitpost

>>106973952
am i supposed to check if whatever card im gonna buy uses 12vhpwr or several 8pins? even if its a lower end gpu?

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>>106974015
Just buy AMD RX 9000 series gpu with 8 pin and you are safe. simple as!

>>106974015
It doesn't actually matter, stop being autistic

>>106974015
It says it in the item description and on the box don't even have to look at the actual hardware. Having 2-3 lines is better than having 1 line. Think how multi rail vs single rail PSU works. when single rail fails it's catastrophic. when multi rail fails it just shuts down the system.

all 5090 will commit seppuku

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why do the best not sponsored or bribed e-sports players have Radeon GPUs in their home systems?
probably because they know Nvidia GeForce is nonviable for competitive games due to frequent crashes, stutters, poor frame pacing and driver timeouts that make it impossible to compete

>>106970047
>>106970047
>>106970047

>>106973615
This.
I get paid bi-weekly and if they said, "we can't pay you this time but we can give you a brand new $2000 computer." I would say, "eh, ok."
If one paycheck gets me brand new then I'm not gonna pinch $300 off of that to try and save it. For what, you know? I invest, sure but just get the thing and forget it.