>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use casesState BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8>CPUGaming: 14600k, 9600/X -Budget: 12/13100, 12400, 12600k -Premium: 14900k, 9800X3DWorkstation: 265K, 285K, 14900K*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5*Raptor Lake launched with issues that could cause rapid degradation, exercise caution if buying second-hand.>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67TIM: MX-6, MX-4, Duronaut>RAMDDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)>SSD (Keep firmware updated)Budget: SN7100, NM790High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)Premium: SN8100https://borecraft.com/>GPUBudget: Arc B580, 9060xt 8gb -Used: 2060 Super, 2070, 2080tiMidrange: 5060ti 16GB, 5070 -Used: 3080, 3080ti4k : 5070ti >PSUBuying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITOR1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X71440p: 27" 180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), Gigabyte MO27Q28G or LG 27GX700A-B (WOLED)4K: Dell S2725QS, KTC M27P6 (miniLED)>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)
>News & RumorsRTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.Nova Lake 2026>Product NoticePNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/>PSU Reviewshttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplieshttps://www.lttlabs.com/https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplieshttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+SuppliesFor tier-list enjoyers:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/>Storage Reviewshttps://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSDhttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviewshttps://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/>Monitor Hunterhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/>Benchmarkshttps://www.cpubenchmark.net/https://www.techpowerup.com/Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the opPic:https://old.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1ocmlu3/the_5070ti_is_great/Previous:>>106966278
It's safe to upgrade Ampere bros
>>106987065Basically i need a ryzen 9 9950x or the 9959x3d version and like 64gb of ram but i dont know ANYTHING about mhz, idk what means CL and why must be 6000mhz at cl30 for an amd chip. For the motherboard i want one top of the line to upgrade later, like having more and more SSD for personal storage, i store a lot of videos and pics and i currrently building a basic nas with old parts, i was thinking in a Asus 870e proart because no LED and a lot of usb c and ssd ports but idk if there is a better model or brand Graphics card i was thinking on a 7900 xtx or a 9700 xt i dont want nvidia powersupply idk like 1200 watts? cooling i want air, like the noctua dh15i have a pc case big enough to fit all components
so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.
>>106987175kek why is this happennig?
>mfw my 5070ti still has bad drivers and crashing on every new game that comes out for a month straight until the AI coding the GeForce drivers manages to fix it.
>>106987170then go buy thatthe fuck you asking for? you have a chosen cpu, mobo, gpu, and coolerjust pick any 1200 w psu and the ram that you have been told to pick even if your baiting faggot ass doesn't understand the reason for and just build the pc
>>106987199forgot pic
>>106987198their mothers took too much tylenol during their pregnanciesmany such cases
>>106987201brother dont be mad, i just want to share and have information and an opinion, its my first high end pc and just asking for opinion. The last desktop pc i had was like 2009
>>106987175lol, so fucking based.>>106987170as long as the motherboard is good to go you should be fine with 64gb 6000mhz>cl30cas latency. 6000mhz cl30 is just the point of diminishing returns with x3d processorsI would definitely go 9070 over 7900, for games there's going to be a massive gap there.
>>106986993I didn't know Newegg let you trade in parts
>mfw my 5050 still has bad drivers and super overpriced for last gen 4060 performance (should be 150 dollar gpu
>>106987237thanks man i will take note and adjust my pc list
>>106987170I'd strongly recommend you get a 280 or 360mm AIO for a 9950X or 9950X3D.You can pick a dual tower air cooler if you want.Here is my proposed build.https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KBpdyWYou may have to learn how to update the board BIOS to make that Creator board work with the 9950X3D.https://www.asus.com/us/support/faq/1038568/Creator is a top-end board with a lot of I/O if you need it.>idk what means CL and why must be 6000mhz at cl30 for an amd chipIt's not a hard rule. Just a recommendation because these DDR5 AMD CPUs are easy to run at the 6000MT/s speed, and they scale better with tighter memory timings (CL30 or under for this speed).Pic is a portion of AMD's review guideline for their Zen 5 CPUs. Basically 6000MT/s CL30 is the performance & stability sweet spot.
>>106987270thanks for the information man, I really appreciate it
Public Service Announcement :FSR4 support still lackluster
Janny wtf are you doing
>>106987757sad times, tranny-janny preserved the Njudean OP.>>106987652PSA: shut the fuck up and stay on reddit where you belong Njudean-goyslave, stop posting screencaps from there.
>jannyWHAT A FUCKING NIGGER
>>106986781Why are prices so volatile, I'm literally watching the 9800X3D jump up and down by £30 either way. At £399 there's no point in a £345 7800X3D, though the tray AliExpress 7800X3Ds...
>>106987757you should make a new onethat will teach em
>decent 1440p 27 incher>200 yuro options by many brands like smasnug, msi, aoc, etc.>decent 1440p 31.5/32 incher>N/AWhy? I don't want a crazy expensive 4K monitor (that I don't have the PC for) or a cheap 1080p TV, but those seem like the only options at that size.
Good job man, i hope your Christmas bonus this year reflects the good job you did today
>>1069878601440p resolution's main attraction is the balance between retaining high fps and the better pixel density than mainstream 1080p monitors.
how the fuck do I get this bracket out
>>106987973Show an image of the back of the board; you might have to press & push out each of the mounting screws from the back.The mounting mechanism doesn't look like a stock CPU cooler for that Intel socket.
I wonder if anyone has tried using marshmallow fluff as a thermal putty.
>>106988087i know toothpaste was used on a benchmark article a while ago and it wasn't that terrible
>get big fuckoff case>the mobo doesn’t stick out of the back like normal>bajillion cables in a box instead >still trying to figure out how to get the monitor wire out of the damn caseRegret
>>106987973for the stock cooler you rotate the pegs
>>106988029its the spartan 5 maxwould not fit though so I'm just going to use the stock cooler provided I don't break the motherboard getting this off
tfw your pc case is so old it doesn't even have USB-C.
>>106987973Just pull the pegs from the corners
interested in the lian li Air Mini, bc it supports 280 radiators on the front, and is small enough to fit under my desk ( under 471mm)Now corsair announced the 4500 which sounds interesting.Any thoughts? Is there a better case? should I wait? Whats the usual release cycle of pc cases?
>>106987973>>106988192Not the exact cooler but same concept
>>106988168If you can't pull the peg out from the back, remove the green screws from the front first.The red pegs will be much easier to take out from the back afterwards.
>>106988230I did--with the bottom 2. the problem is the top two broke off. I guess I'll have to try and pull them out with pliers. thanks for the help
>>106988208I'd rather mount the 280 radiator to the top of that Lian Li case.That Air mini's feature is bringing fresh air from the front.>Corsair 4500Is it the Frame 4500X? That looks like a larger case.
Wat build for 1080p games? 60hz i guess i dunno. Don't really care as long as it runs well, i mostly play poe 2, wow, tarkov and some indie shit. Will try my hand at streaming eventually too (yeah i know its a waste of time I'm just lonely)>9600xt 8gb>ryzen 5 9600x>32gb ddr5>whatever air cooler for cpu>mini atx board i dont have a lot of roomWill it do the job?
>>106988247you can try pushing the center pin out from the bottomuse something plastic so you dont damage the board
>>106988299I tried that earlier but it worked this time. guess I needed to apply more force. thanks bros, it's out now.
>>106988255I meant 5400 sorry. It appeared yesterday in my yt feed. its a new 3 chamber case where the cpu has its own aio radiator chamber.with the lian li i planned on pulling air from the bottom for the gpu. most of the cases who only have mounts on the side dont support 280 and I have to air comming from the right side since thats where the wall is in my room.
I just found out what a quartz oscillator is the more i learnthe more i find outI have no idea how computers actually even work or how they ever invented these machines
>>106988150what happen
>>106988185i had a pc so old when I accidentally plugged a usb-c cable into a usb-a port it killed the ancient psu inside it
>>106988472Now go learn about how they made the first transistorhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pzy_KOBddRA
>>106988293Pretty much, here's a sample build.https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LNkk2xThere's around $100~200 in potential savings. I don't know whether you're fine with a video card with 8GB VRAM.https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bRNJJnThere are cheaper PSUs, but the $20 price difference or so isn't worth it imo.Keep the 2TB SSD, especially if you're getting an mATX board with limited M.2 slots.
>>106988468I'd probably try that Corsair 5400 case if the reviews are okay.
>>106988486Nothing it’s just too many cables
>>106988293>>9600xt 8gbget the 9060xt 16gb
Cable management is such a pain in the ass. There's like no way to hide the motherboard cable. Should I even care since I don't have a glass panel?
>>106988827It's not that bad; you did your best.
Why the FUCK is my M2 not showing as bootable drive? It's literally right there in the BIOS GOD FUCKING DAMN IT
>>106988827you're really going to give 0 intake fans to a 5090 FE?
>>106988887Some boards require you to change the PCIe mode of the M.2 drive from auto to Gen 4/3/etc. to detect it.I've read this happening on ASRock boards with WD SSDs more often.
>>106988887cmddiskpart list diskdiskpart list volumethat'll tell you what's going on you can post the results
>>106988601>xt m3That case rules. I love smaller, understated cases.
>>106988293Paying the extra $30 for the Nvidia encoder (Nvenc) on a 5060 is probably worth it if you want to stream. Don't cheap out on MBO too much, you will want something with PCIe 5.0 lanes. As >>106988703 said consider the 16GB version for $80 more or the 16GB 5060ti for $160 extra. [spoiler]I'm not trying to upsell you, i promise, it's just the youtube shills using my fingers.[/spoiler]
>>106988923It's telling me nothing. I have 2 winshit installs, I'm currently on C but I want disk 0 to be boot, which is bootable, detected, but not in the boot list for priority.
>>106989043detach all the other drives install windows to the new drive
>>106989083>detach all the other drives install windows to the new driveI'd rather kill myself but thanks.
>>106986801>>News & Rumors270K Plus and 290K Plus Arrow Lake Refresh!
>>106988895It's a 5080. Can't find the 5090 FE and nothing else fits. Will fans down there help that much? Figured the card has its own fans for the intake. I have some old noctua f12 I can put there to try I guess.
>>106989163>News & Rumors9850X3D - 400MHz boost!9950X3D2 - Dual cache at last!
Threads dead, why happen?>>106988293If the 9060xt isn't below msrp (like nearing 5050 pricing/$250) you might as well step up to the 5060 (which I'm pretty sure would be better for streaming anyways) or the 16gb model of the 60xt
>>106989163pls tell me thats some sort of refresh and not literal overclocked intlel ultras
ngl kinda tempted to click it
What the heck happened why are we so dead tonight?
>>106988827youd get more static pressure if you had intake fans, but you might also try using some foam or cardstock to fashion some air funnels between the heatsink fans and the bottom of the case. I'd run benches with both solutions because idk what would be ideal for flowthrough vs noise.
>>106989933They’re probably just factory overclocked Arrow Lake refreshes.Didn’t even get the next-gen, Ultra 300 product names.
>>106990057It’s a slow general when the brand warring shitposters are banned.
>>106987243nicotroon you weren’t supposed to avatarfag when making false flag posts
>>106990057nico troon and others banned. Also there were 4 different /pcbg/ threads up at the same time.
So nicofag is going to behave and then crashout again in a month? tiring
Is the O11 Air Mini discontinued? Seems to be out of stock everywhere.Should I just settle for a O11D V2? Or maybe an all mesh box like a Jonsbo D32/Z20?
>>106990457I'm guessing the Air variant wasn't popular enough to continue making them.V2 looks nice if you're into that design.I'd probably choose between the O11D V2 or the D32.
Does the thread being dead since a janny stepped in prove beyond a reasonable doubt 80% of the posts are made by maybe like 3 people and their split personalities?
>>106990594i disagree
>>106990457i also wanna go for a small factor build but im looking for something which can have good airflow ,ch 160 plus looks good but im not sure about its airflow , the gpu looks like its going to choke the air coming from the front fan and other cases are whether too big such as phanteks xt m3 , or has bad airflow
>>106990057Maybe people prefer to use reddit pc building subs where they dont get recced to buy 7900xtx for workstations
>>106990765RIP onyo chef, I miss him. :(
Kinda regret not getting a 96gb kit for ai sloppa, could get one for real cheap a week agooh well 64gb is ‘nuff
>>106990813he just took a break anon he will be back
>gpus overpriced despite stagnating>amd going full jew on cpu prices the millisecond they can>hdd prices doubled>ssd prices going up instead of downshit’s getting expensive, yo
>>106987183https://desuarchive.org/g/search/image/Req1Zuzilo2iQQJbhVBOMw/
I have so many fuckin SSDs what do I even do with those
>>106989669>power color
>>106990832
>>106991121Muh NASMuh separate system for loadse storage I wont usePCIe expansion card to hold all of the NVMEs on a single plate
With the brief respite afforded by the jannies can we maybe give this op some updating?The CPU and GPU segments are garbage
>>106991121get usb enclosures and make bootable disks
1tb hdd is dying should i upgrade to 2tb ssd?
>>106991570forgot to mention its external
>>106991617For semi frequent use yesFor long term storage no
>le budget nvme ssd just jumped price by 50%
>>106987142how are numbers at 768p
>>106991764it's over
>>106987183its always the power cord anon
>>106991801That's just pasta.
>>106987270tf am i reading memory controller clock to memory clock ratio 1:2 does this have things with 2x32bit why would you want 1:1 i assume this 1x32bit please correct me if wrong
>>106988887maybe software layer does not detect mbr or efi partition
Well boys, I did it. I panic bought the RAM and NVMe SSD for my upcoming build to avoid further ""price spikes™"" courtesy of hooked noses. Hope I wont regret my purchase come black friday deals but I still have to be on the lookout for cpu and gpu.
>>106990594basically yes throneheads follow but posts are rare
>>106991121you contemplate of that dream os with amazing gpu support and av-studio project but nothing ever happens
>>106991570if you need only 300GB why not 29,99. - 500GB
>>106991764someone posted budget ssd pic on internet they move to next thing maybe monday
>>106991820You want 1:1 so that memory operations are synchronised with controller operations. That way the controller doesn't have to "wait" for the next clock tick when the memory completes an operation. The bus width/channels don't really affect this.
love amd saar
I want to buy another screen but the stands are super fucking shit, the legs stick out way too far and cant be adjusted properlyArms are the first option but with minimal depth space i dont know how well they will workHas anyone used the generic vesa replacement stands?
>>106986781Realistically, how do I choose a cpu fan? Why would I need an AIO for my 9800x3d if it's rated to 120 W when my tower cooler is rated to 240 W? Surely not even OCing will more than double thermal ouput?
>>106991965you don't need an aio for a 9800x3d, but aios will cool more effectivelyexcess cooling capacity means quieter and cooler operationcooler operation means less stress on the component
>>106991948Arms don't necessarily need a lot of depth
>>106991965People worry about cooling way too much. CPUs are fine until 90C and GPUs until 80C, with upper throttling limits at 95C and 85C respectively.If it's running hot just blow the fan harder.
>>106991948Wall mount. Clean desk space and maximum depth utilisation.
>>106991965I feel like AIOs can improve general airflow through a case since it removes a large obstruction/turbulence creator in the middle. Then you can just have flow in just one direction.
>>106991849just panic bought an ssd, had to settle for a tb less than I wanted thanks to AIkikes
>everyone buying SSDsshit, do I buy a second 2TB 990 Evo Plus? my PC already has one as bootdrive + a 980 for misc storage and games
component prices are going to be extremely cheap in 5 yearsAll that AI investment was used to build up energy and AI farms, but the demand wont go up infinitely for all providers. The ai chip demand will go way down, and what do those tsmc fabs gonna do? gpus for gamers
>component prices are going to be extremely cheap in 5 years>All that AI investment was used to build up energy and AI farms, but the demand wont go up infinitely for all providers. The ai chip demand will go way down, and what do those tsmc fabs gonna do? gpus for gamers
wowzers
>>106992108Means jack fuck if I want to upgrade this year now doesnt it nostradamus.
>>106992153and what component is expensive now, relative to the past?
>>106992189RAM. But feel free to post some "adjusted for inflations" graphs to prove me wrong schlomo.
>>106992054get a job
>>106992212No.
>>106992208there seems to be slight increase past week, probably related to ai demand but 30€ higher ram price isnt going to stop you from building a pc now
>>106992232No, but it seems silly that Ive been out of the PC building game for years and now that I want to slap together cookie cutter gaming machine everything starts to get more expensive by the day because AI. Its not about 30-50 bucks more for ram, its about the principle. Shit fucked up GPU prices exactly like this and now look where we are.
Thoughts on this $750 poverty build? I'm trying to go for 1080p 60 fps high settings on modern slop. Also I'm planning on installing bazzite and treat it like a steam machine, am I on the right path? am I stupid? should I just buy it and stop waiting for everything to go up in prices?
>>106992366>1080p 60 fps high settings on modern slopthats like 4090 or 5080 minimum
is an MSI Gaming Trio OC the best bang for my buck as far as 5090s go? everything cheaper than $2500 is out of stock and I really dont know when at MSRP priced cards will return to stock.
>>106992108Nah, whoever’s still alive will be like Amazon in 2001, stock in the tank but still buying up all the GPUs they can find.
>>106992366Really depends on local prices. What other video cards are available around that price? Also, how much does Intel 12th gen go for in your country, 12600KF specifically? Finally, it's probably not worth the savings to get unmatched RAM.
>>106992366seems fine, I don't know much about bazzite but I guess AMD is the way to go at least
Fuck this. I’m not paying over MSRP for a GPU. I don’t care if I have to wait 3+ years for this stupid bubble to pop.
>>106992366Get a second hand GPU. You can get a 6900 XT for this price on Marketplace.>1080p 60 fps high settings1080p60 is literally the same as 1440p120, just without upscaling and framegen. Actually it might even be more demanding lmao, DLSS Balanced at 1440p is 825p or so...
>>106992366>1080p 60 fps high settings on modern slopHahahahahaha
>>106992366>>106992602>>106992626>muh fpsI’m so glad that I’m apparently blind or something and genuinely can’t see any difference past 30fps.
>>106992706Hey, a friend of mine is like that and got an i7-11700k + RTX 3070 build back in 2021 or so, just to play everything at like ~900p windowed and capped to 30 FPS. Allows him to play 2025 games at high settings without worrying about DLSS or FrameGen or even 1080p60.
>>106992706The difference between 30 and 60 fps is pretty massive, it's like getting to the nyquist frequency for the human eye.
Is asrock still killing cpus?
>>106990594Yeah but that's every general on every board. I don't nicotroon and nvidiajeet but when they start threadsplitting and spamming endless GO USE MY THREAD NO GO USE MINE they all have to go
>>106991944It's over for AMDjeets
upgrading from a GTX 1080 to a 9070 XT.will it do numbers?
>>106992144>supplied by: OtherAmazonbaba strikes again
>>106992864lol no
>>106992864i think it can play mp4
upgrading from your mom to your dad .will this effect the banana economy ?
>>106992864>going from no ray tracing to no ray tracing may as well just get a 1080TI
>>106992864Any Radeon GPU is basically a GTX 1080 Ti Ti Ti Ti etc. etc. etc., no matter how powerful, because it doesn't support DLSS, just like the 10-series.
>>106992919>AMD doesn't support DLSSHow can they be so based?Native or nothing babeee
>>106992866it came straight from the fulfillment center in woodburn lol.
>>106992927You need 4090+ power to play at native 1080p and no Radeon has that.>inb4 "my 9060 XT handles [insert easy game to run here] at native 1440p even!"I mean real games not esports bullshit with system requirements like a 2014 AAA game.
>>106992366I have currently a very similar build but with a 3060TI (5600x 16gb ram blablabla) and i play most shit at 1080@60fps without much trouble, most games with settings maxed or close to maxed.The lynchpin is the gpu, do you have any other options at similar prices? What i mean to say is that if you can scrunge up any extra money it should go towards a better gpu, the rest of the computer you are buying is on a dead platform (am4) so its not like you will ever upgrade it (cause there isn't a lot above what you are getting) so there is no reason to spend more money there, however the gpu you can just remove it and pluck it in the next computer, but again, its all about money.Picrel shows your 5600 being able to move stuff with better gpus Also check the 2nd hand market there might have been a lot of people moving to am5 and that might want to sell their older 5600x 5700x3d 5800x3dBest of luck chile bro, any question let me know
>>106992946>he doesn't buy new hardware for the sole purpose of making old games that already ran well run better.not a real gamer.
>>106992864The 1080 was a fantastic gpu, not the absolute goat that was the TI version but solidHowever yes going to a fucking 9070xt will do numbers
>>106992366Even at poverty tier there's just no point whatsoever going am4 on a new build, something like ryzen 7600 is probably about as expensive as 5600 (or you can get one of those funky ryzen 7400F which have cut down traces but you probably won't need them on a poverty build). You're left with a much better platform. RAM price is largely the same between DDR4 and DDR5, mobo is a bit more expensive but deals can be had now and then.GPU... idk shit's fucked, I'd probably try to get as good as you can second-hand with what you have (also applies to RAM desu, 2x 16GB should be dirt cheap from somebody upgrading)>1tb ssd almost $100wot in tarnation
>>106990594on every 300 posts thread i would say that about 10 or so are minei post a lot of meme replies but i try to help on my limited expertisebut there are people probably posting 50replies and arguing with themselves to drive the posts to limit so they can post their next bullshit, that had to go
>>106992786I want to know as well
>>106992786>>106992786https://old.reddit.com/r/ASRock/comments/1oe12nh/3_month_old_9950x3d_just_died_on_an_x870_pro_rs/Yes
>>106993134Thank you.
Wait a second, if you absolutely crank the graphics settings to the max the core ultras are better? Why didn't hardware unboxed warn me of this.
>>106993134werks on my machine>R5 9600>AssRock B650M-H/M.2+
>>106993215AMSteve is as dishonest as they get
>>106993215>DDR5-8000Given the optimization shitshow that is TW:W it's probably this. Though maybe there's some graphics setting that scales on nT performance where the 265k has a clear advantage.
>>106992946What’s a “real game”, only the most poorly unoptimized unrealslop imaginable? Black myth wukong?If a 3090 can’t run it at 240fps it’s the developer’s fault. I’m not paying extra for lazy vibe coders to not optimize their shit.
>>106993217>werks on my machinefor now
>>106991376I'm adding the 9070xt back if I bake the next thread, which I probably will because clearly no one other than me or nico troon are interested in doing so.Other than that I stand by and see no issue with the rest of the lists
>>106991376do you have any suggestions?
nvidia UPSCALED you
>>106992903it does the gaytracing what are you on about
>>106993395>not RTX>can't RT(X)simple ass
>>106993395Path tracing is the benchmark now
>>106993410name three games with path tracingI only know of two - Cyberpunk and Indiana Jones
>>106993278>S2725QSGet rid of this monitor, it's purely for productivity.https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/s2725qs#test_23015People who are looking for 4K monitors will generally do the research themselves.The 4K IPS monitors are all overpriced atm.
>>106993430Wukong, FPC, Doom TDA
>>106993448>uncracked>no idea what that is>uncrackedit's over for us piracybros who want to bench test our GPUs
shant be gaytracing upscaling or fake framing
>>106993403it does the RT without the X, xir, my GPU is not gay
>>106993488>has to buy a 5090 to play at 1080p60sad!
>>106993455this
>>106993544>max settingsbeing retarded is hard i bet
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t3q6GJIs this an okay build? My use case is low-end gaming at 1440p and not needing to change anything for a long time, also to get a Windows 11 compatible PC because win 10 support ended recently. it'd be nice to be able to do other stuff also, but I don't have any specific usecases.
>>106993572Looks good to me. That cooler is overkill for a 65W 6 core Ryzen 5 though.
>>106993595I panicked seeing the price until I realised it was in monopoly money, it looks fine, as the other Anon said, you don't need an AIO for a 65w part.
Oh my god that's actual dollars not CAD
Guys im between these two pcs at the same price of 1k. One is AM4 but with a better gpu and the other is am5 with a slightly worse gpu which one should I pick?https://www.globaldata.pt/computador-aura-gamer-pc-ryzen-7-5700x3d-32gb-ddr4-1tb-rtx-5070-wifi-w11-ar5gmr-r71tn57ww I found this used for 1khttps://www.globaldata.pt/computador-aura-gamer-pc-ryzen-5-7500f-32gb-ddr5-1tb-rx-9060-xt-16gb-wifi-w11-ar5gmr-r51ta96x2wwOr I could go with this one for 1k as well but on am5 and slightly worse gpuhelp i cant fucking decide whats best
>>106993572United States or Canada?
>>106993572PSU is a touch weaker than I'd want at this budget but the overall concept is solid.>>106993614If you're outside of the US please give a local PCPP link or tell us what country you're in. No point critiquing on price/value if all the prices are wrong.
>>106993625the third option: you build a computer yourself with the parts you actually want
>>106993625Of the two I would do 5070 + x3dPreferably you just build something
>>106993625If you plan to keep them for a few years then get a whole new PC, the CPUs are functionally the same.
>>106993572how in the fuck is a 5060TI 820$ that card should be 550 or so at worstFor that price you should be able to get a bottom tier 5070 TI or a decent 5070Rest is ok, anons ahve already mentioned the cooler but a decent air cooler will be not that much cheaper, if you want an aio for aesthetic reasons (and a bit of extra cooling) might as well since the one you picked is pretty cheap
>>106993639>>106993650Building it for 1k would probably leave me with something just like the 9060 pc.
Hey anons, so I built my first PC, but I just heard from my friend that apparently its better to have a drive exclusive for the OS because whenever I replace a part of the PC I have to do a Windows Clean Install again, is this true? What components apply to this?
>>106993667just the motherboard
>>106993625for gaming right now the first one will have a little more oomph, but that means staying on am4 with no possibility of upgrading in the futurebottom one is probably ever so slightly less powerful but if in two years you can get a cheap new cpu from whatever source you can just put it thereWould you be comfortable building your own if you got a list?
>>106993667It's "better" but too much hassle compared to having one huge drive and partitioning it into C for Cystem and D for Data. Probably not worth it, just get one 2TB+ SSD and call it.
>>106993667the motherboard is the only one that would require a reinstallif you have limited storage just keep the OS and whatever programs/games you use on your fastest drive and keep an older drive to store your weird porn
>>106993667No, the only hardware I can see that being logical for is the motherboard.Having a drive exclusive for OS makes sense if you have a low capacity drive, but I don't see why you would when you can buy a 2TB SSD and partition. when SSDS at 256gb were common, this made more sense.
>>106993572At $350, surely the 9060 XT 16GB is the better choice?
>>106993709I would be comfortable yeah but getting the parts locally from my country will probably leave me at a 50 dollar difference from the ones i listed.Which one do you think is best? I use linux but i think nvidia isnt much of a hassle as it is portrayed to be. Maybe I even skip the whole am5 gen too and juice the 5070 up until am6 maybe? idk really
>>106993544>Hello, What is our thoughts on this?Stop posting stale articles. That benchmark was published in Apr 25th, 2025.https://www.techpowerup.com/review/clair-obscur-expedition-33-performance-benchmark/8.htmlExpedition 33's had too many performance & stability fixes to list, including a memory leak.>Fixed stability issues after extended play sessionshttps://steamdb.info/patchnotes/18793516/https://steamdb.info/app/1903340/patchnotes/
>>106993752not him but just do the x3d if you can't build
>>106986781Which of these two AMD CPUs should I buy, the Ryzen 5 9600X or the Ryzen 7 7700? 7700 is like 10 dollars cheaper in my country.
>>106993752I think you are fine with the top one as long as you accept that the next time you want to touch the computer is to buy a new one // replace everything (except the gpu depending on the times) For how long can you squeeze the 5070 thats up to you, some people feel the itch to upgrade the moment they have to put a setting down from ultra to high or medium. Just keep in mind that you are at what might as well be the top of am4, if you find it lacking there is not an easy upgrade.
>>106993789And if I can do you think its better to do the 9060 and then upgrade down the line?
>>106993488We get it, your card's shit at all of them.
>>106993810I mean i think i would need a new power supply if i wanted to swap out the 9060 in the future, so with that in mind they are both sort of a compromise in that regard.Im starting to lean towards the 5070 pc realistically how long would these last upkeeping 60fps up untill med-high graphics
>>106993805It depends, are you playing Paradox or CPU heavy sloppa? if so get the former, if you don't care get the latter.
>>106993805Both are fine; 9600X can keep up with some multicore loads.https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-5-9600x/
>>106993811I don't know how pricing is in your country but my stock suggestion with current gen has been buy at least a 5070, and if you can't, well then just buy second hand.Check LGA 1700 pricing too.>>106993805Decision I believe would be basically weighing out gaymes vs not gaymes.
>>106993278>>106993285CPU should include the 7700/x on budget and the 7800x3d in gaming with the 9800x3d, then the 9950x3d in premium. Not sure if the 9800x3d should be in premium or just gamingGPU putting the 5070TI in 4k is a bit suspicious but there at least the 5080 and 5090 should be mentioned. Imo the 5070TI belongs in midrange where we should also see the 9070xt alongside. In that same boat the 9060xt 16gb should appear along the 5060TIOn other stuff i hate some of the older stuff that got backed in the earlier generals like "include MONITOR" "or you will NOT be helped"
We've all heard of gaymes but what about straightmes? What's a straightme and what specs do you need to run it?
>>106993896A Cock and a plug to put it into.
>>106993901we like DP /here/
>>106993896all straightmes were produced over 15 years ago and thus require low power systems.
>>106993894>CPU should include the 7700/x on budgetliterally no reason to buy that when you can get a 14600K for the same price>then the 9950x3d in premiumagreed>Not sure if the 9800x3d should be in premium or just gamingnothing premium about an 8 core in 2025
>>106993924>literally no reason to buy that when you can get a 14600K for the same pricepurchasing a cheap am5 cpu would be the reason>Not sure if the 9800x3d should be in premium or just gamingits a premium as in its a slight lift over the 7800x3d at a probably too expensive price
>>106987860Samsung Odyssey G5 UWQHD 165Hz ?AOC CU34G4Z WQHD 240Hz Adaptive-Sync HDR Curved 34in Monitor ?Whats wrong with the price of these? bear in mind the price is always going to be higher, not so much because of the amount of pixels or tech, but because ultrawide monitors are a niche product, and it costs more to make them by default because of that. Worth it tho, love me Ultrawides.
>>106993953>UltrawideThere's tons of good Ultrawides, but I want a 16:9 32 incher for immersive singleplayer console-like gaming.
>>106993915my monitor doesn't support DP
>>106993894>CPU should include the 7700/x on budget and the 7800x3d in gaming with the 9800x3d, then the 9950x3d in premium. Not sure if the 9800x3d should be in premium or just gamingI forgot about the 7800, I should add it.>4kI feel like it's a good 4k gpu, I kind of figured the people looking at the 5080 and 5090 are going to buy it regardless of what's available or anything like that
>>106993946>purchasing a cheap am5 cpu would be the reasonand a cheap board and cheap RAMa "budget buyer" that upgrades every other year is an irresponsible idiotjust save up and get something good when zen 6 comes out>its a premium as in its a slight lift over the 7800x3d at a probably too expensive pricei wouldn't put it in the OP at all but that's just meif you want the best of everything you get a 9950X3Dotherwise it's not premium, a 14900K isn't premium either
>>106993708>>106993717>>106993721>>106993727Oh no way for real? Just the MoBo? I thought the CPU would also apply... But yeah I guess I'll have my weird porn on the older one, I was asking moreso because I kind of know about partitioning, but my friend always recommends me when doing a clean reinstall of windows to clean and wipe the entire SSD, I don't remember but it was with some cmd commands...Anyway, thanks anons
>>106993994not who youre talking to but with what you said in mind would you say that the 5070 pc here >>106993625 is better than the 9060 one?Basically get the 5070 and only upgrade when am6 comes out or something?
I'm doing some windows optimizations and one of the recommendations is the power profile and apparently if I have 1 CCD I can use the ultimate power profile but if I have 2 or more I should used balance. How can I check how many CCD my 7500f has without delidding it?
>>106994044It has one, anon. The 7900X for example has two CCDs because it's actually two 7600X's in a trench coat pretending to be a 12-core CPU. Productivity software fall for the prank and perform well, games see past their lies and perform like they would on a 7500F/7600X.
>>106994044It's simple faggot, for AM5.8 cores or less = 1CCD12 cores or more = 2CCDs
>>106994029you mentioned you're on linux and i would never get an NVIDIA GPU for linuxbut you're said you're fine with that so whateveri wouldn't be concerned with being stuck on AM4 for now, i was on a 5800X until a few months ago and i never felt constrained by it, 5700X3D might bottleneck the 5070 in a few heavy UE5 titles but so would a cheap AM5 CPU>>106994044you have 1 CCD
>>106994044this is all you need to do for power profile changes:1. make a copy of the high performance plan, call it "high performance EPP" or something2. set it as the active plan3. open cmd as administrator4. run the following: powercfg -setacvalueindex scheme_current sub_processor PERFAUTONOMOUS 1powercfg -setacvalueindex scheme_current sub_processor PERFBOOSTMODE 2powercfg -setacvalueindex scheme_current sub_processor PERFEPP 0now it should boost to maximum frequency all the timeanything else is snake oil (for 1 CCD AMD)
>>106993994>a "budget buyer" that upgrades every other year is an irresponsible idiot>if you want the best of everything you get a 9950X3Di dont think the job of the op is to judge anons but to give them options and the 7700 is a budget option that should be consideredhow often we see anons asking with a 1k budget, these might want a 7700 now, how often do we see people contemplating a 9800x3d even when told that the 7800x3d performs similarly>>106993991>I feel like it's a good 4k gpui think that people that buy it as a 4k gpu gonna be disappointed pretty soon, i agree with the later point about the 80 and 90 but i think they should be included just for good form, even when i wouldn't buy the 80 on performance nor the 90 because im poorbut i wouldn't recommend the 5070TI to somebody that asks me about getting a 4k card, or i would at least tell him that is a very entry level 4k card
>powerplan bullshitso glad linux doesnt need this everything just works from the kernel
>>106993946>14600K$150 14600K deals dried up, and Intel officially raised prices for all Raptor Lake CPUs.They're reallocating Intel 7 production capacity to make more server IO dies.https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/intel-hamstrung-by-supply-shortages-across-its-business-including-production-capacity-says-it-will-prioritize-data-center-cpus-over-consumer-chips-warns-of-price-hikesAM5 makes more sense at current prices; Intel only recommended if deeply discounted.
>>106994115>7700 is a budget option that should be consideredthere is no reason to considerthe OP is supposed to be opinionated, it's supposed to give good recommendationsnot just a list of the latest parts sorted by price>>106994121amd_pstate=activesudo cpupower frequency-set -g performancemight be default by now
>>106994121>powerplanIt's retard proof. Keep the board chipset driver updated, and leave the power setting in Balanced mode.Balanced is the default Windows power plan.
>>106994071Isnt NVIDIA good now though? What problems are still present i might run into?
>>106994138>>106994139windows by default tries to do maximum power savings for pcie but that just nerfs amd/intel gpu performance (doesnt affect nvidia because they dont follow windows rules)
>>106994138>there is no reason to consider>the OP is supposed to be opinionated, it's supposed to give good recommendationsits a perfectly fine am5 cpu that would fit people on a very tight budget of which we see manyYou are free not to recommend it on any pcpp list you might help bake to help anons.
>>106994151>windows by default tries to do maximum power savings for pcieNo, it doesn't.The motherboard's BIOS settings take precedent, even if it did.And practically all DIY motherboards do not enable maximum PCIe saving mode.
so done with these fucking melting issues on my 5090. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones when my cable melted and whole pc caught on fire, I have to build a whole new pc. im suing nvidia and building an all amd pc with the settlement money fuck it idc anymore.
>>106994189>she didnt liquid cool her graphics card
>>106994167it does it by default because of laptops and they dont care if you have a desktop.
>>106994146random missing features like video decoding in browsersrandom bugs in games that only show up on NVIDIAbig performance nerf compared to windows on the same hardwarei'm not sure how often kernel upgrades still break the NVIDIA drivers now that the kernel part is open source but staying on an older kernel isn't really a big deal anyway>>106994162>You are free not to recommend it on any pcpp list you might help bake to help anonsi'm sorry but i don't care that muchmy list would tell people overclocking is mandatory and there would be riots in the streetsfeel free to recommend it since you want to do the reddit thing where you have to pretend to be impartial and recommend parts from both brands even though one is clearly superior to the other>>106994167>And practically all DIY motherboards do not enable maximum PCIe saving modethis matches my personal experience, no board i've owned enables ASPM by defaultand i keep it off anyway because it doesn't save any power, it's maybe 0.1 W per PCIe device which is significant on a laptop but irrelevant on a desktop>>106994196this setting still follows your BIOS
>>106994189You can get those on AMD cards now too.
>>106994206Would the 5070 performance hit make it match the 9060 in performance? Is the 9060 pc better then?
>>106994196As I said before, the motherboard's BIOS settings take precedent.Practically all DIY motherboards do not enable maximum PCIe saving mode.And this has 0 performance penalty to gamers, the PCIe link to the card is always active, and will use the maximum possible PCIe bandwidth under gaming loads.That idle-to-active latency penalty only matters for system performance benchmarking, such as testing an Ethernet controller.GPU-Z's PCIe bandwidth test proves my point.
>>106994225no, i still think even with the NVIDIA debuff the 5070 would be faster, but raw FPS isn't everything
>>106994225NVIDIA's not as attentive to addressing Linux driver issues.
>1 pc for work>1 pc for nas>1 pc for gaming only how many PCs do you need to build?
>>1069942657
>>106993667I always have multiple drives but shieeet everything that needs installation gets installed to the boot drive anyway too many apps sperg out if you try to separate them
>mfw my 5070 still has bad drivers and running out of vram on every new game at 1440p
>>106994308It's amazing to me how nvidia thought that releasing a budget GPU at the price of 550 was a good idea.
>>106994404Yet it's the most popular RTX 50 card on Steam.Where are the RDNA4 cards?
Why does Radeon render colors so much better?
>>106994497Faggots forget to enable Full-range RGB on their nGreedia cards.
My cpu is not fast enough to do 60 fps in mirrors edge
>>106994404i dont think the 5070 was supposed to be a budget cpu in a world with a 5050 5060 5060TI 8gb and 5060TI 16gbThat said all those (5070 included) should get a 50$ discount across
>mfw my $1000 5080 still has bad drivers and the $600 dollar 9070 XT is faster than it with a 5 minute easy OC
>>106994404Why did amd think a budget gpu at $600 was fine?
>>106994537The 5070 is really just a 4060 in disguise. It might even be just a 5050 ti in disguise. The memory bus width and GPU die size doesn't lie.
>>106994497neural rendering is better than computer please stop asking for accurate colors - me, nvidia jensen
>>106994590600 dollar gpu that rapes all nvidia cards besides 2000 dollar workstation 5090 in the only FPS franchise that matters.Wow amazing AMD!Thank you Lisa Su!!!
mentally ill njudea shill and trannyeon shill engage in a battle of wills and wits yet againno winner in sight
>>106994220>You can get those on AMD cards now too.it can't melt because 9070 will never draw more than 600W even on peaks. all examples of it are fakes or improperly seated retards fake forcing it or can't even plug in a cable properly. also I read, that if they made cable thicker it wouldn't be a problem.
>>106994497It's because they handle HDR differently, here's my 3090 in mh wilds, I'll post a pic with the RX 9070 in 40 seconds.
>>106994653
>>106994526The Limited RGB dynamic range (16-235) is the standard used for almost all video content (Blu-rays, streaming, broadcast TV).It's the "broadcast safe" RGB range.You end up with a worse viewing experience if you force full RGB range (0-255) on media content that's meant to be viewed on the limited RGB range, like crushed blacks.https://borisfx.com/documentation/continuum/bcc-broadcast-safe/This is the reason why the video color setting in NVIDIA's Control Panel defaults to adjust with the video player settings.
nico-nog posting bait to hit 300 posts faster?
>>106994653>>106994663Console gamers are complaining about that game's washed-out HDR.They're being rendered by Radeon GPUs.
