Industrial editionPrevious Thread: >>106956118>Keyboard recommendation template:https://pastebin.com/n220xk9V (embed)>Find vendorshttps://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list // Up-to-date list of reputable vendors with brief descriptionshttps://keycaplendar.firebaseapp.com // Tracker for current and upcoming keycap group buys>This keyboard stuff is so expensive!https://aliexpress.com (or Taobao if you know how)>Learn about Cherry MX switcheshttps://rentry.org/mkg_switches // Introductory guidehttps://www.theremingoat.com // Switch reviewshttps://www.switchesdb.com // Compare force curves>Split and non-standard layout resourceshttps://compare.splitkb.comhttps://keyboard-design.com>What does ______ do to a keyboard's sound?https://blacksimon.tv/science (Google sheet)>Practice typinghttps://monkeytype.comhttps://www.keybr.comhttps://thetypingcat.comhttps://play.typeracer.com>How Cherry switches do backlighting, and why it's not idealhttps://rentry.org/mkg_backlight
rec me a keyboard> preferred less $100>Libya (but it's not important because i have freight forwarder addresses in most major countries)>i have been using cherry browns for a while but want to try Blues>prefer ISO>%75 with volume knob (some games use the function keys)>backlight not important>must be wired only (no battery whatsoever)>current keyboard Logitech G710+
Need a new keyboard, my old one broke today(bricked).I liked the Varmillo Full size with Blue switches. So now I'm looking into buying a Ducky One 3 RGB hot swap. It's about 200€ and that is a fair price for me.Whats the verdict on Ducky? Good or overpriced? Are MX Blue still the best and loudest clicks?
Great. I see the problem now. It's the fuckhuge 100w lights in my room that's distorting my color perception.
See, no fucking wonder I keep getting wrong color sets and end up falling back on beige.
Fucking lights man. I'm so used to them I didn't see it until now.
>>106992787The CRI on cheap LED lights is crap, it is known.
nth for MT3
>>106992798>Please note that product photos are taken of the actual items, but variations in lighting and screen calibration can cause color differences, so they are provided for reference only.Color me surprised.
>>106992860These bad boys were anything but cheap, they're just overpowering.
>>106992882Teal to BRG is the type of variation I meant when I mentioned the versatility of anodized colors. But yes, it was folly on my part.
>>106992921Assuming I'm looking at the right one, phillips says its CRI is 80. Not dogshit but not great either.
>>106992945Yeah it says >80. I learn something new everyday, I'll put up some >95 lights around my room and make up for it.
I want to a beige or grey/silver whute board. Who sells keycaps and can I just spray paint my base plate and case to match? I like the look of those old Cherry G80 boards in particular.
>>106992465>Ducky One 3 RGB hot swap>Structure:Mechanical structure>ctrl+f metal 0>200€wat
>>106992994if you are a color appreciator you need high CRI LEDs
Ah yes, the innovative GMK mark of authenticity. I'm sure clones don't jump around in their trays as much.
>>106992322is that a G300s?
>>106993697It's a G700s
>>106992322Which era g710? 100 dollars might not give you a better keyboard than a g710...
>>106992322Oh it's in your pick. Meh, that's not the good one. Maybe get a keychron v6.
I see the appeal of small keyboards now. Damn this feels good to use without bumping my mouse on the side.
>>106994143at that point just get a 75% with F row
>>106995163This was on discount so I risked trying the new layout. I'm gonna pray daily to get an OGR2 extra next year. If not then I'll stop coping and get a Mode.Also look at this awesome tray design by KKB, GMK should take notes. Just pull up the rubber mounts halfway and it loosens the bottom tray up. Pull it all the way and the top tray is accessible. Elegant!
>iqunix magi65>had it for 5 months>some keys already having issues with double inputs, like u being uu or j being jjWelp that fucking sucks.
This was satisfying to put together.
cheapest most silent switch?
>>106992875how is the slope from R2 to R3? I have a hard time using heavily sculped profiles because I always end up bumping my fingers when moving from R2 to R3, for reference I'm currently using an ISA profile
"most silent switch" is a terrible idea. this is what a silent board should sound like (coincidentally very similar to my Photon with Lichix Raw Silents):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWtH3yA73Vg&t=8660s
>>106996903forgot to link >>106995993
>>106995993Canglan V3s are by far the most muted linears I've tried, and they feel good to type on. Try one of those, it's the opposite of a typical HMX clacker.
>>106992921That's hideous, looks like every corposlop office in the US. Why would you do that to yourself.
>>106996008Don't have any problems with it personally. The curved keywells change how the profile feels so it won't be the same as a flat board, obviously.
>>106997286My eyesight sucks. I need bright lights in my room or I can't stare at my monitor for long without straining my eyes to the point they become weepy jellies. Yes I wear glasses but fuck if that helps the issue.
can i used the soldered cherry mx switches of my old keyboard on a new keyboard with hot-pluggable switches?also what do you think of picrel? Keychron Q1 QMK
>>106997486Yes, just be careful to take most of the solder off and don't leave globs of it on the pins.
>>106995993Going for super cheap silents is usually a bad idea, they generally feel terrible. Unikeyboards is selling WEKT Lucys, they should be good since they're basically the new Lichicx, and they used to make the best silents before they went under.
>>106992921are you currently spending time at a mental health facility
>>106992921I love how insanely white this is. Amazing.
>Spends hundreds of thousands fixing the stabiliser problem>You can use keyboards without stabilisersRespect for getting people to buy Seneca though.
Anybody know any sources of keycaps with profile equivalent roughly in height to Keychron LSA profile? I think LSA are around 4mm height.
After using Lichix for a while I am coming to the conclusion that ALL switches should be at least a tiny bit silenced. POM on Nylon is too harsh. We should be finding plastics 5% softer than POM for the bottom of these stems. I should always be bottoming out on something with a little bit of give for a softer sound and feel. Every time I switch back to one of my Cherry boards it feels like striking pinballs against marble. It should feel soft, like striking wood-on-wood.
>>106994143>arrows are offset by 0.25u down>board designer still chooses to make the nav cluster 2x2 when 2x3 could fit and still have exploded spacingI will never understand why they do shit like this
>>106998017Some people really hate the softer bottom out. It's all just preference anyway.
>>106998110I think, if I had to guess, it's because R2 support for nav keys is generally shit in most keycap sets. You can't put delete there, nor end, nor insert, etc. Probably all you can do is page down.
>>106997486>also what do you think of picrel? Keychron Q1 QMKkeychron shit is pretty boring. it’s kind of the gateway brand to actual custom boards
>>106998135desu all i care about is a %75 mechanical keyboard that will carry me for 15-20 years.
>>106998129most sets do have pgup and pgdn on r2 because of how common 65% has become
>>106998161get a sonnet or something
>>106998129I should correct myself, I was using the row labeling scheme of certain PBT keycap sets, which is reversed from GMK labels. I really meant R3, not R2.>>106998166You're right. My guess was incorrect. I just remember being frustrated when I was putting keycaps on my 65%, but that's because I didn't want page up/dn, I wanted home/end, while keeping fn next to up arrow. Couldn't do it.
>>106998135keychron is a DOGSHIT gateway brand to cheap chinkshit like Kisnt
>>106998209>>106998161evo75 is still going
>>106998161>15-20 yearsThe lifespan of an MX switch is about a decade in my experience. I don't think a Keychron would last that long, even with changing the switches. But I'm basing this on nothing, I don't really know, just a gut feeling. Among other things, the foam gaskets might become brittle and disintegrate before those 20 years are up. The PCB, I don't know.
>>106998368Just realized I was unintentionally ambiguous. When I said "that long", I mean 15-20 years, not "a decade".
>>106998249>>106998135>>106998209but what a makes $350 Sonnet better that a $100 keychron?
>>106998363>evo75>battery>10-15 years lifespanlol
>>106998424quality across the board, design, sound, mounting options, the board actually being custom. you don’t have to dump $300+ on a sonnet to outcompete keychron though, literally any custom board will do that. sonnets are just popular enough to be a long term in stock option which is part of the reason they’re like $300+. you could get a neo75 cu instead. keychron sucks
>>106998549$40 keyboard > $300 keyboard
>>106993249Get it anodized if you have an aluminum board. Idk what you'd do if it's acrylic/PC. As for keycaps, can't go wrong with GMK Verdant Retro, KKB Jindo beige, Black Snail or its L9 modifiers, GMK classic beige, KKB, etc. Lots of cool beige sets out there.
>>106999027What does that even mean lol. Once you type on a nice keyboard you see what the price hype is about.
>>106998441You can just plug it in you shit eating retarded faggot, I fucking hate cock suckers like you do not understand that after 15 years that all products that use a battery also use a fucking wireFUCKING KILL YOURSELF
>>106999192>remove battery>plug it in>it doesn't worktired of retards thinking that a charging cable means that that the piece of hardware is wired
>>106999399>remove battery>plug it inI've done this on 3 different wireless boards I've bought and it always worked: Keychron V6 Max, Daring Run Flip, Cannonkeys Photon.Without the battery plugged in, they just work as wired boards.
>>106999451(Also I'm not the guy who said kill yourself, I'm just chiming in with my two cents lol)
>>106999399IM NOT FALLING FOR THIS BAIT
>>106992286Just order a Unicomp Mini-M for the new secondary computer
I fought the law and I WON
>keychron q11 is $250why everything cost money
>>106999612Inflation
>>106999582Forgot pic lol. I finally made it work. Get fucked, teal.
>>106999743Least objectionable so far. There's something going on here. On the right desk, in the right context, might even call it attractive. It is, however, quite loud, and could easily look out of place. Feels a bit retrofuturist. Reminds me of old running shoes.
>>106999848I'm just glad it looks the same in all types of light conditions. I really didn't want to darken the teal with Electric or Metropolis.
>>106999848(another)
>>106999848>>106999871Thanks for reminding me to watch Solaris again.
>>106999873cheers
>>106999743That's a pretty nice teal. Similar shade to the teal on my guitar actually.
There, but for the grace of God, go I.
>>106999954yeah yours is better
>>106995885https://novelkeys.com/collections/frontpage/products/gmk-cyl-mars-cadet-keycaps>>106999743https://drop.com/buy/drop-mt3-dancer-keycap-set
>>107000006I saw that MT3 set on an NCR-80 earlier today and it looked neat. But I think it would look awful on his board. It looks like it belongs on something big and plastic with a steep typing angle.
>>107000017(actually it was "MT3 Dasher", the inverse set)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC3eX7Uq9As
>>106996903thanks anon, those sound nice ngl
>>106997216those red velvet ones are closer to what I'm looking for but thanks for the recommendation
>>106997615uh these sound nice as well. I was initially looking at the Outemu Silent Peach V3 which are on that Unbox Therapy silent keyboard. and they seemed pretty cheap
>>106998135they can be ok or even nice, depending on model of-course, and if you find some discount deal.for example I found a K2 HE deal at 100 euro, 75% compact, PBT doubleshot keycaps, hall effect switches, metal frame with plastic bottom, and QMK compatibility. plus the Keychron software which is up there these days for hall effect tweaking. RGB, wireless. for 100 euro that's hard to beat.
>>107001182If you don't mind paying through the nose ordering from Korea, Geon still has Lichix raw silents in small and big bump varieties. The big bump is not huge, more medium-large, small bump I haven't tried but I understand it's a little more like an MX Brown. VERY similar to the red velvets in that video, I can take a video of typing on my Photon if you need proof.https://geon.works/products/raw-silent-switch?variant=43516378579107Keep in mind part of that sound is from a nice hollow plastic case, it won't sound the same on aluminum boards.
>BudgetLess than 200>Location (continent at least)Mejico>Preferred switch typeClicky (Cherry blue), or at least brow, or Hall effect if I can customize actuation point (some chink boards suck at providing software)>LayoutISO would be preferable, but ANSI is not a dealbreaker since I know my way around it.>Form factor100% for this one.>BacklightDon't care>Previous/current keyboardsThis cherry with blues.Chink boards, sff 65-60%, reds, Keychron with HE switches... At work I use a 65% HE Aula, forgot the name, it's nice enough and works well enough, software is shit because it's tied to some website instead of some open source or easy to access software.At home I use this cherry, that said it's kinda old, and the switches need a lot of love or replacement.I was just gonna lube them up and check the leaf springs for contact or grime or whatever, but I remembered you guys and thought to ask...Are Filco still a good option for traditional cherry switches? I don't want to get into custom boards yet, I'd rather get something out of the box ok.
>>107001345Oh I didn't even realize those silent tactiles he was using a year ago are also still available for sale lol:https://dangkeebs.com/products/dk-creamery-red-velvet
>>107001413I'm highly regarded. Forgot pic.
>>107001427What's wrong with your G80, other than being a bit old? I honestly don't think you're gonna beat the G80 as far as boards to put blues in
>>107001436The case is huge, needlessly so, whenever I take it apart I'm always left in awe of how much is used for nothing, just empty space.Being cheap plastic, it cracks and bends, plus looks cheap (nothing wrong with that, but I'd like smomething that feels nicer.Loudness is not a problem, I don't mind how loud it its.I guess it comes down to trying something new.Typing this I also come to realize that I could just make a case for the existing keyboard and keep the pcb and switches intact...
>>107001436>>107001413My bad I didn't read the whole thing. What I'd do is:https://oblotzky.industries/products/gmk-cyl-nordeSpend 90% of the budget on good double-shot keycaps where the legends won't fade with use (you can always re-use them on your next keyboard if this one doesn't last)https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008107811733.htmlReplacement switches.Either solder in all new switches across the whole board, or just as-needed on switches that are failing.I wouldn't try to fix broken switches, because there's absolutely no way that saving the 40 cents per switch is worth the headache.
>>107001487If it's that bad, maybe it's worth it to get a new keyboard, but there aren't good options for ISO layout. Keychrons are OK for clickies if you take all the foam out, but buying the clickies separately it becomes a bit expensive. That said I do have a V6 max with Gateron Melodic clickies, and I like it. But with what I spent on switches and keycaps it was not a $100 keyboard anymore.Varmilo has some ISO-DE boards but they're a bit expensive and none of them are offered with clickies.Filco still makes boards in a way that sounds proper with clickies (big empty plastic is the way to go), but everything they offer is ANSI-only.
>>106993438Cheaper sets have much better packaging, GMK needs to step it way the fuck up.
>>107001549Ansi is fine, I can use the USA-INT keyboard map and that gives me ß and so on.
