UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use casesState BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helpedBuilding guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Build_a_PC&diff=55476&oldid=55400>CASEmATX: Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air MiniATX: Phanteks XT PRO (ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lian Li Lancool 217, Antec C8, Antec Flux ProAVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500>CPUBudget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 9600XGaming: 9800X3D, 9700XWorkstation: 9950X, 9900XPremium: 9950X3D>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, NH-D15 G2ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67>MOTHERBOARDAvoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reported.>RAMDDR5: 2x16GB / 6000CL30Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB or 2x64GB>SSD (OS drive)Budget: SN5000, SN7100High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)Premium: SN8100https://borecraft.com/>GPUBudget: Used GPU between $100-$250Midrange: RX 9060 XT 16GBHigh-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: RX 9070 XTHigh-end 4K & Workstation: RTX 5090>PSUPSU buying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITORhttps://www.rtings.com/monitor>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Arctic P12 Pro (loud @ higher RPM), P14/Max (5-pack)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)Prev: >>106994945
>News & RumorsRTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.Nova Lake 2026265k, 285k, and 9800X3d getting new oc'd variants soonDual 3d cache "9950X3D2">Product NoticePNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/>PSU Reviewshttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplieshttps://www.lttlabs.com/https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplieshttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+SuppliesFor tier-list enjoyers:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/>Storage Reviewshttps://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSDhttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviewshttps://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/>Monitor Hunterhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/
Everyone talks about the taskbar burn in with OLED but I've never understood the problem. Are you not having it auto hide until you mouse over it? Why would you want half inch of your screen space stolen from you when you don't need it 99% of the time? If anything the top quarter of the browser should be a much bigger worry. I've got a browser open all day and the top part is all one static image. It's much more annoying to hide as well. Yet I never see anyone even mention it. Feel like I'm taking crazy pills but I can't be the only one who has noticed this right?
>>106999862having to mouse over first makes finding what you want take longer
>>106999902First week using a pc huh? Well better late than ever I guess. I'm sure you'll get the hang of it soon enough.
>>106999902The super key has a purpose, you know.
>>106999920oh so now I have to press a key too
>>106999929No you just have to use your pc for more than 2 days and your hopefully functioning brain will remember where the handful of symbols are. If this is something you struggle with I'm not sure you should be allowed on the internet unsupervised.
Where is the psu in the OP?
>>106999808I removed my intel frame to put in a contact frame and some faggot back plate just fell into the innards of my PC. I need to take the thing apart to get it fucking cunt.
>>106999808my bootleg deathadder essential cant be detected by its softwarethe previous one bootleg I had used to be detected lolcan I at least adjust dpi without synapse/software?>adjust from the control panelthat is sensitivity not dpi baka
>>106999808Why are smol mATX cases so hard to find? Like 15x15x7 mini towers. HP made a lot that size but they're stupid looking.
Why do most motherboards have four RAM slots when two sticks seems to be the norm?
>>106999808Hi, fags,My retired parents have an HP EliteDesk 800 G2 without a discrete graphics card, but le dad decided to relive the old days and run some AutoCAD/ProEngineer/Inventor/some-shit-I-dunno, and now he needs a GPU. What’s the format of graphics cards that’ll actually fit in his case (pic related)?Also, today I bought this, so tell where I fucked up:ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 5070 Ti OC Edition 16GB GDDR7 TUF-RTX5070TI-O16G-GAMINGSAMSUNG 990 PRO 2TB SSD, PCIe Gen4 M.2 2280MSI MAG CoreLiquid E240 Black - AIO ARGBGIGABYTE X870 GAMING WIFI6 AM5 LGA 1718, ATX, DDR5, 3x M.2, PCIe 5.0, USB4, WIFI 6, 2.5GbE LANCORSAIR Vengeance 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000 (PC5 48000) Desktop Memory Model CMK32GX5M2B6000Z30AMD Ryzen 9 9900X - Ryzen 9 9000 Series Granite Ridge (Zen 5) 12-Core 4.4 GHz - Socket AM5 120W - Radeon Graphics Processor - 100-100000662WOF
>Finally ordered all parts for PC>Everything OK>AIO... is wrong and is even sent refurbishedWhy... does Amazon do this to me anons? Am I this retarded? Let's go full retard, I'm running a 9800X3D and a 5090, let's say I build it while I wait for the correct AIO to come in two weeks now... How bad would that be? Please help this retard before he breaks something...
>>107000045>use 2 slots>it's fine for 10 years>use the other 2 slots>it's fine for another 10 yearst. i7-3770 appreciator
>>106999808what case is that
>>107000167Why would it take 2 weeks to get something from amazon? What AIO did you order? How do you know it's refurbished?
>>107000167>>AIO... is wrong and is even sent refurbishedWrong how..? Wrong socket mount, or just not exactly what you wanted? Replacing AIO is no more difficult than installing it.
>>106999969Use the buying guide, PSU prices fluctuate, and they're on a rising trend.If you can't decide, Corsair RMx PSUs are safe and of high quality.There are OEMs like Super Flower, FSP, and SeaSonic if you want to cut the middleman.
Praise the omnissiah, the new build posted.
>>107000045It's mostly a quirk with DDR5, four DDR5 slots are much harder to run for the CPU's memory controller compared to DDR4.Fully populating four DDR4 slots wasn't as detrimental.Things might get better with Zen6.
Any tips for custom LOOPS
Hi /pcbg/ I’m finalizing the parts list for my first build and would appreciate some insight from people who know more than I do. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zKCv89 Budget is $3500. I live in the US, not within driving distance of a Microcenter. Primarily for gaming (though I care much more about performance than ray tracing), video editing, and streaming. I’m aiming for 1440p. A couple key concerns of mine are the PSU and airflow. I want to make sure my PC will never draw more power than mu PSU can supply, but I think I’ve gone overboard with the one I’ve chosen. I’m also much more comfortable with air cooling than liquid cooling - I’ve never used a liquid cooler before and am concerned about maintainence costs, which is why I’ve elected to go with air cooling, but I’m worried about the fans I’ve selected being either poor value or ineffective for the components I’ve selected. I’d also like to ask for advice on choosing a case. Looks are secondary to airflow for me. I’m currently torn between the Meshify 2 and Torrent, but I’m open to recommendations, especially if they perform better.
>Bought 9070xt cuz Im a compfag cs2 nigger and fell for the anti lag meme >Get constant stutters and crashes no matter which driver version and even with reinstalled windows >Days of troubleshooting and no fix >Switch to 5070 ti>Locked 240hz and the frametime graph is literally a straight line Well that was a week of hell but at least it's over now lmao
>>107000190>>107000194The package literally says Certified Refurbished Corsair, and its wrong because I checked the SKU, and its totally different from the one I got, I have to wait for the refund and then I'll order it... again
>>107000428I ordered the CORSAIR iCUE LINK TITAN 420 RX, and got the iCUE LINK H150i RGB AIO
>>107000428How can you afford a 5090 but can't afford to order a replacement while waiting for a refund on an AIO? Something isn't adding up.
>mfw my 9070 still has bad drivers and super overpriced for last gen 4070 ti performance (should be 400 dollar gpu)
>>107000489>Wants cake>And eat it too
>>107000461I put it on my credit card in order to have breathing room and better control of my spending, rather than spending money now, I CAN buy it but I think I would rather wait and have a better control of my spendings rather than just buying one right now for the moment
>getting severe ping on my pc (4000ms)>Wi-Fi connection>Has not happened once in 6 months of using this thing>All download speeds, signal strength are fine. No packet loss.I cannot for the fucking life of me figure out what this is, I have a B650 tomahawk Wifi mobo, it's rather this or the modem.
>>107000541why would you ever use wifi on a desktop?are you braindead?
Why is this guy shitting on his own thread?He's fucking with you guys by spamming old PC build questions like >>107000296https://desuarchive.org/g/search/text/I%20live%20in%20the%20US%2C%20not%20within%20driving%20distance%20of%20a%20Microcenter./https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106994945/#106996323
>>107000545Because my computer is across the room from where the modem is and I do not want a cable across my floor. it is a large living space, and I have never had this issue in the 4 years I've fucking lived here.How about you offer troubleshooting advice instead of being a massive faggot?
>>107000557sorry i don't help retards
>>107000557Reinstall the WiFi drivers, check the antennas too. GL
>>107000557point and laugh
>>107000563>I can't help you because I'm retarded and focusing on a non issue as even on a Wi-Fi connection constant 4000ms ping is an entirely different issue*Fixed that for you. I honestly do not understand why you fucking faggots crawl out of the woodpile whenever someone dare uses Wi-Fi. It's very clearly a router or receiver issue.
>>107000577>non-issueretard its your entire issue
>>107000577Why would you expect most people on here to have esoteric mind reading knowledge of advanced wifi troubleshooting? Wifi is most of the time a problem that doesn't need to exist so people here are going to poke fun at you a little bit. Best to learn to grow a thicker skin and accept that.
hey there /pcbg/ im coming with a couple of questions. currently have a 5700, and im looking to upgrade for better gaming performance/all around nice to haves. I've been getting some sound crashing/artifacting issues in what I've been told is a RAM access issue that could also be CPU related. my options seem to be to get a 5800X3D and keep the current AM4 platform or basically start from scratch and go AM5, likely a 7600X or 9600X but possibly a 7700X/9700X. is Ryzen 7 that much better than 5 to justify the 100-150 price increase on processor alone? I do use my computer for gaming as well as some music production and digital art. pic related is my system.
I'm kind of regretting not buying that discounted Meshify 3 case.
so what set off the guy spamming old posts over and over again?
>>107000092That slim workstation's PSU appears to have 200W power limit.A GTX 1050 should be the stopping point for that system.>Also, today I bought this, so tell where I fucked up:Probably the AIO and the 9900X.9900X is for cost-effective workstations; they run like a slightly better 9600X in gaming.
so done with these fucking crashing issues on my 9070. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the nvidiots when my doom dark ages crashed and whole pc shut off, im rmaing and switching to a 5070 fuck it idc anymore.
>>107000708The NicoThing knows it's unwanted here, so it's finding ways to lash out without making things too obvious for the jannies/mods.
>>107000211And it all fit in my 4U chassis despite not carefully planning cooler height or GPU length AT ALL.
Upgraded to 9070 XT 2 days ago from a 3070ti and I have had zero issue with it, works perfectly fine. But to be fair my brother had insane issues with his Vega 64, literally made some games unplayable with driver crashes and disgusting stutter.
>>106999808How can you tell the difference between old graphics cards. I just got an old pc from my parents it has a radeon x300 128MB card right now. I was looking at 1gb 4670s and i see some DDR 2 and 3 versions but I see 2 examples of both with a different layout of components. what the heck. do i get the card with more chips or what?
bros ive spotted asus strix boards going on sale in here (B850-G) it dropped to 210 usd in here and i want to get on one while its on sale but i will build my pc at the end of december , is it risky to get my motherboard now ? would we be seeing faulty mobos from strix ? which i dont wanna discover it a month later of its purchase period
>>107001135It’s advised to test the board before the return period lapses.Risk is low, but worst case you will have to deal with ASUS RMA.ASUS will deny any inspection or service if that board was purchased from an unauthorized retailer.
>>107001196thanks anon , i guess i will have to pray for it to be on sale again during christmas
>boughted $2700 in parts for a 9800x3d/5080 build>motherboard wifi/bluetooth absolutely trash on a MSI x870 pro whatever something somethingevery pc component is trash built by niggers to steal my money. I'm using the network card I bought for my last pc when it's mobo wifi just died.It's nice having a good bluetooth radio for when I've got like, VR controllers going with wireless headphones and wifi going etc etc
>>107000557you can use a dot matrix and optical scanner loop.
MAG 275QF 27inch 180hz qhdMAG 245F X24 24inch 240hz fhdwhich one?price different is only less than 20usd herefuck is 180hz even enough nowadays?but i get it its 2025people should get qhdpc spec is 7500f with 4070
>>107001274it depends on what you play , probably the 180hz one has a better hdr quality (i hope)
>>107001274QHD
>>107001283casual gamingcs2,factorio, bf6, mostly stabledifusion
How far off 7500F with oc is from 9600x? I mostly just play HOI4 and Stellaris and no I wont consider x3d chips
>>1070013297500F then upgrade to zen 6 x3d
>>107000549AMD stands for advanced marketing devices, he's some thirdworlder getting paid to spam amd shit.
>>107001080Idk, but the two barcodes on the left are for ddr2 cards
>>107001274if you buy a fhd screen in almost 2026 we can't be friends sorry
so when are mods implementing account requirement to post for this boardat this rate everyone will migrate to reddit
Common wisdom is that each plug on a GPU should get its own cable. So why do GPU cables often come with two plugs?
>>107001899because good enough is cheaper
Public service announcement: Want to improve the general? Get in touch with mods and petition them to rangeban nico. He's going to permanently kill pcbg if he isnt, I'm genuinely shocked /pcbg/ threads aren't deleted on sight yet.Go look through the last 2 threads, asshole was nonstop spamming for like 12 hours and pretending to be different people like an actual schizophrenic because someone else created the thread and it wasn't entirely red.
>>107001928>xir thinks the jannies give a single shit about this trash general and will listen to a "petition"LOL
Cheapest RX9070 is 599€, RX9070XT is 699€. Is it worth paying 100€ extra for the XT?
>>107002038at those priced you should buy 5070 or 5070 ti instead, or wait for their super versions with more vram
>>107001581yeah it was just an example. I was asking chatgpt and basically more stuff on the board is better. you can upload a picture of the cards and the ai will look the pics and tell you which card is better, wild lol. I realized wanted a dx9 card so i found a radeon x1950 pro that was in my price range
>>107002038in my country>5070 - 635.02 €>9070 - 638.60 €>5070 Ti - 887.09 €>9070 XT - 740.86 €Anyone buying a 90xx card instead of the 5070 is straight up scamming themselves out of DLSS.
6% and falling because of deranged shits like nicotroon
>>107001899Lots of cards come with more sockets than they actually need. Daisy-chained connectors let you run those cards without overspending on the PSU.
>>106999808Why are the OPs always made by AMDjeets? The 5070 Ti is light years ahead of the 9070 xt, especially 4k.
>>107002209it's also a lot more expensive
>>107002224>670€ vs 770€ >100€ for a MASSIVE performance boost with DLSSThat's literally nothing if you're already spending between 2k to 3k.
>>107002239AMD fags will never admit DLSS is a huge factor for enthusiasts. FSR looks like fucking garbage in comparison.
>>107002239it can be misleading if you just say dlss is the difference since fsr4 is good qualitytheres more about support in games, dlss has more games coveredframe gen is 4x and better quality on nvidiabunch of other software features. I use rtx hdr for video content every day after buying oled monitor + hdr game filters to turn sdr games into hdr with better quality than windows autohdr
>>107002239>>107002259I'm not a fanboy for either camp but I don't care about AI frame generation at all.
>>107002273they're talking about upscaling not framegen you subhuman animal nigger
>>107002282I don't care about AI upscaling either.
>>107002273Frame Generation is niche and not majorly supported or wanted by consumers.DLSS/FSR is about resolution upscaling first and foremost. Unironically the main benefit to RTX series cards has been DLSS. Fuck Ray Tracing and all that, it's nice but not gamechanging, while DLSS is a straight up transformative performance boost with minimal image quality degradation. DLSS Balanced 1440p runs AND looks better than native 1080p TAA.
My fans are so loud when idle.The temps are great, don't go past 65C on anything despite heavy load but I wish idling was a bit quieter.Also what's the best solution for bluetooth? Would a USB dongle work just fine or is there something better?
>>107002314BT tierlist>Motherboard onboard BT modem>BT modem pci card>USB BT dongle>HUGE MASSIVE UNTHINKABLE POWERGAP>a literal pile of shit>not having BT at allDongle is fine.
>>107002038in my country the difference is closer to 55€ on the bottom tier models of both chipsets and at that price getting the XT is a no braineron 100€ difference tho.... thats hard to justifyI probably would still get the XT but i dont know what your economic situation looks likeIts weird that the cheapest base model is about the same as mine but you dont have access to a 650€~ XT model and they jump straight out to 700€. So that probably means you are overpaying on the XT...Fuck its hard, sorry i can't offer any real advice
Thoughts about pic related in 4TB? Just ordered one for 260 euro, reviews seem favourable.
>>107002209>Why are the OPs always made by AMDjeets? I think thats luck of the draw, amd just got a random schizo with unresolved attention issues and we all get to suffer because of that>The 5070 Ti is light years ahead of the 9070 xt, especially 4k.Not really on computing power or actual in game measurements. You pay the extra on the 5070TI to get the nvidia bells and whistles which may be worth it. DLSS is probably better than FSR right now, nvidia will probably actively support the 5070/TI for a lot longer, you get some path tracing... It may be worth it, but the card is not "light years ahead".>>107002239In my country its closer if not bang on a 150€ difference, not 100€
>>107002376>novideo will actively supportLOL
>>107002354Even if you exhaust the cache (approx. 442 GB on 4TB) the speed is still faster than most I/O operations would need. I have the 2TB one for 150 euro and I like it.Temps could be a tad better but it is what it is.
would you guys say that a difference of 30 euros is worth it, between choosing a WD_BLACK SN7100 vs a WD_Black SN850X.I want to get a 2 TB SSD, its mainly for gayming and I am not sure if those speeds are noticeable at all for me
>>107002396No
>>107002396Yes 30€ is nothing. Get the premium variant.
>>107002396When gaymes say they need an SSD they generally mean SATA3 as the lowest common denominator. You'll be fine with any NVME that doesn't drop it's speed below ~600mb/s when cache is exhausted (>>107002387)
>>107002387>>107002409Good to know, thanks. For a while it will be my only drive with everything piled on it so this is relevant info.
>sold my 4090 for more than I paid>bought 5090 for net $800>did this a number of times since selling 5700XT for more than double I paid during crypto boomgit gud
>>107002532I bought 3080 at msrpthen I keep using it until I buy 60xx gpu and keep it as a backup probably
>>107002539when I sold the 5700XT I was thinking about the 3080 or 6800XT. I chose gaymd regretfully so made a loss when selling that. Lesson is no matter what the jewtuber shills say never go gaymd gpu if you want resell value
>>107002409>When gaymes say they need an SSDHalf the time it also just means they didn't bother testing it without.
>>107002666I'm sure most modern games are playable on a healthy 7200RPM mechanical drive, as in no egregious asset pop-in or falling through the world. Loading times notwithstanding.
>>107002314Can this be fixed by adjusting the fan curve to have them spin slower at low temps?
>>107002788Yes, go into bios and set up your fan curves
>>107002788Thats the standard practice, yes. Its also possible that your stupid ass gay fish tank needs to have fans on 2000 rpm all day every day just so the fish inside dont overheat even on idle. We just dont know.
1440p bwos how do you see 4chan at 100% zoom? I have to really strain to read it like that. At 125% zoom it feels about the same as on my old 21.5 inch 1080p monitor.
>>107002812the zoom exist to make things proper size
>>107002819It also makes images look soft and upscaled instead of 1:1 pixel sharp
>>107002812Switched from 1080p 24 inch to 1440p 27 inch recently, I use 125% scaling to feel comfy. Could do without but everything looked so tiny so zooming and booming it is. Might depend on how far you sit from the screen, I like to keep my distance.
