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UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Build_a_PC&diff=55476&oldid=55400

>CASE
mATX: Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks XT PRO (ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lian Li Lancool 217, Antec C8, Antec Flux Pro
AVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500

>CPU
Budget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 9600X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 9700X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reported.

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB / 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB or 2x64GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN5000, SN7100
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Poverty: Used GPU between $100-$200
Budget: RX 9060 XT 8GB, Arc B580
1080p: RX 9060 XT 16GB
1440p & 4K: RX 9070 XT
Workstation: Radeon AI PRO R9700

>PSU
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
https://www.rtings.com/monitor

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro (loud @ higher RPM), P14/Max (5-pack)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

Prev: >>106999808
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>News & Rumors
Radeon AI PRO R9700 officially launches October 27 for $1,299 retail
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.
265k, 285k, and 9800X3d getting new oc'd variants soon
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/
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love my RTX 5070
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>want new pc
>want new display
>want new chair
>want new table
>can almost blow all savings and be completely fine but then I have nothing
>can just post pone consooming shit and wait like usual but it's just an endless wait anyway
>have to spend money on other shit constantly
>can just stop eating and save money that way
>every day I say I am gonna stop doing this and that, just stop spending money
we are gonna need more money, this is getting ridiculous
can a nigga get a side job?
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Reminder that if you're not using CompactGUI to save disc space you're using your computer wrong.
https://github.com/IridiumIO/CompactGUI
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opinion check
Samsung 990 Evo Plus or WD Black 850
inb4
>pick the cheaper one
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Are 4 core 8 thread CPUs like the i3-12100 obsolete or viable for an ultra budget "second PC for Linux" setup? I can get a combo deal with that CPU + 2x8GB DDR4-3200 + H610 MOBO for 140 euro.
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>>107011846
if you just need a computer for web browsing and generic shit its fine
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>>107011865
For low end Linux gaming with an RX 570. I want to motherboard swap this old bastard PC I have lying around from the i5-4440 to something from this decade. It's hooked up to the living room TV.
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Why 7800x3d increased its price by 80€?
Not gonna buy it for 390€
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>>107011891
because someone else will
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>>107011891
what cunt?
still 300(tray) or 350 here for me (goymoney)
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>>107011940
Italy
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>>107011891
Both 7800x3d and 9800x3d went back to MSRP because there's zero competition from Intel. Intels best CPU uses double the power, lacks proper AVX512, and still loses to X3D in games. Until rival competes you will deal with retarded prices just like 5080 costing $1200-1400.
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>>107012010
>9800 is cheaper than in germany
>7800 is vastly more expensive
just grab a 9800 in this case lmao
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Hello,
does this card have the connector that can cause problems?
https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/graphics-cards/prime/prime-rtx5070ti-o16g/
It's an asus 5070 ti prime, also is it a good deal for 800€? Or is it better to wait for better offers before/during black friday? I'm not upgrading since it's a new build
Option paralysis is real

On a second note, any reccs for a 1440p 24 inches monitor? I know it's an uncommon format but i really don't have the space for a bigger one
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>>107011846
>second PC for Linux
most linux poorfags main computers are 4c8t
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>>107012026
>Intels best CPU uses double the power
also you leave 16 extra cores on brotherman compared to 8 you know
>and still loses to X3D in games
a tooned 14900k still is better in some gaymes, up to 50% higher % lows in some titles
X3D has half the 1% lows with frame gen on
We still dippin' to this day
But this is all esoteric knowledge only beknownst by the true intel disciples not by mainstream techtoobers or marketeers or AMDickriders
but I see the appeal of both cpus, depending on of course
And the best of it all you can TestItYourself™ to verify, but no one ever does, just flame wars
we must remain unbiased and objective
but I agree
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>>107012087
Yes that has house fire connector. Also avoid all Nvidia GPUs because of unresolved driver issues on Windows 10/11 and Linux. You sound like you hate nonstop troubleshooting so avoid Nvidia. Some retard here will argue all day but you're smarter than that. 9070xt just works on Windows and Linux no driver problems today and it doesn't have the fire connector if you buy various models.

Hope you actually listen and don't just shit yourself like other Aspergers here.
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>>107012087
Connector like AMDickrider said is present on all 5000 series
wait for better price? idk I don't have a magic 8 ball
>Option paralysis is real
90 series consoomers don't have this problem

now to the interesting part
>On a second note, any reccs for a 1440p 24 inches monitor? I know it's an uncommon format but i really don't have the space for a bigger one
are you really saying you can't fit 6.5" extra in width and and 1.5" in height?
it's practically the same
best monitor choice for you if you aren't poor is 26.5" 4k qdoled like xg27ucdm on a sale
if you are poor best option for you is McDonalds burgerflipping
no but seriously, idk, you have like a few models from AOC or some shit to choose from just buy a basic bitch 27" at that point
or at that point just buy a 4k 27" since they are very cheap and stop 1440p coping there is no need to hold onto this cope
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>>107012087
all the 50s have that connector and several amd cards
when people talk about checking the connectors they mean in case you are buying an amd 90xx card
Ignore the retard that first responded to your post as he is on his own shitty crusade
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>>107012177
Kind of biased desu, but thanks for the reply
>>107012218
Yeah, more than money it's a space issue really, I have a shelf that limits height at 54 cm (or aprox 21 inches) and the depth is around the same distance so a bigger monitor would be too much, rn I use a 24 inches 1080p monitor for work and I feel like it's at the right limit dimension wise
For the 90 series I don't really have the need for one, 800 euros for a gpu is kind of the upper limit since i would just use it for my free time/hobbies and not work, feels like a waste otherwise
>>107012227
I see thanks, but still since the 70 ti has a way lower power consumption than the 90 it should be fine, right?
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>>107012291
>800 euros for a gpu is kind of the upper limit since i would just use it for my free time/hobbies and not work
If you were using it for work it better be supplied by your employer. I don't get this line of thinking. It should be like this,
>for hobby
you pay
>for work
your boss pays
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>>107012291
>>107012321

No it's not fine because you have melting connector regardless and driver issues that you cannot resolve either. Use your head. Don't buy a GPU full of hardware and software problems (5000 series). The only people willing to deal with this shit are datacenters because they have more money than sense.

If you want something that just works hardware or Windows/Linux software you buy AMD. not Intel or Nvidia. It's 2025 TODAY not 2008-2015 wake the fuck up.
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>>107012325
Describe one (uno (ichi (1))) Nvidia GPU driver issue, that can be replicated, and is not some extreme edge case that people buying a 5060 Ti or 5070 for gaming will never notice.
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>>107012291
>I have a shelf that limits height at 54 cm (or aprox 21 inches)
so it would fit
>and the depth is around the same distance so a bigger monitor would be too much
24 and 27 are like literally almost the same
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>>107012291
>I see thanks, but still since the 70 ti has a way lower power consumption than the 90 it should be fine, right?
Well obviously lower power should lower the chance, and there have been some advances on the connectors themselves but there seems to have been cases with any and all cards that use that connector, but yes higher wattage cards seems more prone.
There are some advice floating around to help prevent it as in not bending the cable too close to the connector, making sure its fully seated blablabla
You should probably google info on cases where a 5070 or similarly consuming card has had problems with that connector to get a less biased opinion
This thread is usually useful except for gpu since we have a few retards on the loose shitting any discourse about gpu
For whatever is worth come hell or high water im picking a 5070TI myself this black friday to update my 3060TI
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>>107012339
Wuthering Waves still crashes nonstop but AMD GPUs even when spoofing as an Nvidia card to run the RT settings are 100% stable
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>>107012450
tested and works flawlessly on my 5090, maybe you are a lying subhuman shill nigger?
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>>107012450
I can confirm this is real
Wuthering Waves consistently crashes on me after an hour and a half of playing. Umamusume: Pretty Derby has weird rendering glitches and artifacts. Zenless Zone Zero and Blue Archive are the worst, they straight up don't work and crash a minute after I start them. I've tried DDU, taking out the card and reseating it, fresh windows install, everything. My 5070 ti is literally incapable of rendering Gacha games so I'm switching to a 9070 XT as soon it gets here in the mail this week. Hopefully I can sell the 5070 ti for most of my money back on FB marketplace. Worst GPU I've ever owned because I had RDNA 1 and at least they actually fixed the driver issues eventually with that one.
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>>107012321
I don't see how that goes against what I said, never said I wanted free shit, but I decide how much I want to pay for things
>>107012385
Maybe you are right, I should go see some monitors in person to evaluate better, thanks
>>107012432
>This thread is usually useful except for gpu since we have a few retards on the loose shitting any discourse about gpu
I know man, been lurking for a month now, the thing is I have decided on pretty much everything but the gpu (or more like the model of the gpu, 50 euros more over 750 is not much for better quality after all)
Also you always reply with advice, most solid recognizable poster itt
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>>107012508
what an incredible piece of hardware, not only play real games but also prevents you from playing gacha?
If you are in europe let me know when you sell the 5070TI if the price is right ill buy it from you
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>>107012531
>Maybe you are right, I should go see some monitors in person to evaluate better, thanks
If you could get 4k 24" I would not be against them but to get a better display you don't have anything good like that so what amma supposed to do?!
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>>107012450
>Wuthering Waves still crashes nonstop
>>107012508
>I can confirm this is real
>>107012533
>prevents you from playing gacha?
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>>107011613
>X3D2XD
Zoomers were a mistake.
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>>107012585
There might be something with the shitty coding of gacha games that Nvidia cards don't like because I play Nikke on a Radeon and didn't have a crash for at least a year, but others keep complaining about frequent crashes and most people probably use nvidia cards.
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no seriously what the fuck did he mean by this? he said it so proudly on stage too. "5070 = 4090!"
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>>107012784
this board needs accounts now

just troll farms spamming years old topics to drown out anything constructive
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>>107012777
nvidia needs to flush their shader cache more often than amd. it fucks with a lot of games if you leave the cache dirty. google it how nvidia has lots of cache issues. you rarely see anyone telling you "go delete your shader cache" for AMD.
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>>107012800
no seriously tho wtf did he mean by that. he stood on stage with conviction and yelled that 5070 is equal to 4090.
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>>107012784
He was alluding to Blackwell cards having more frame generation.



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