Amazon has laid off 30,000 people... You guys told me AI was a bubble...
They had 350,000 corporate employees? What were they all doing?
>>107027158Layoffs like this are a sign of a bubble/depression. AI is broadly being used as an excuse for making rounds of layoffs and AI is a bandaid stuck over the gaping wound of the rest of the economy.
>>107027158companies raise prices = inflation's faultcompanies layoff people = AI's faultthey always look for excuses to make their stock holders happy. Bezos needs another yacht too probably.
>>107027158>no one trashing the place,destroying every robot and putting sugar in the bosses gas tank to show how "essential" they areHonestly you guys need a french style revolution.
>>107027220his wife needs more diamonds, please understand
>>107027158>overhiring means they're being replaced by AI
Every company needs to implement the Enron culling system.
they aren't even bothering to blame AI anymore bros (the lie stopped working), im scared... the bubble is looking shaky...
>>107027191They have over a million employees
>>107027249>>107027235>>107027220>>107027194https://youtu.be/2Y8F7OOJfPk?si=3ZBtqw1_X0ufwPFh
Why do big tech companies constantly lay off 10-15% of their staff every year? No other industry chronically over hires again and again and again never learning their lesson. Something about computer programmers makes them uniquely incompetent.
>>107027323They often see a need to build up to handle continued perceived growth.When it doesn't materialize, they have to cut jobs.
this way they save on the xmas bonusnew employees start january 1st
>>107027323Tech has an insane amount of nepotism, friends hiring friends and vibe hiring.It's permissible as long as line goes up.It's also less programmers and more auxiliary office workers, leads and managers.
>>107027323>You get hired to automate shit and make things more convenient >Automate your own job so much your workload becomes much less than it should've been>Boss thinks you are superfluous >You get fired>Eventually the static automation you set up breaks>Companies hires someone for your position againProgrammers tend to be wildly improductive according to the metrics managers care about
>>107027158Amazon is one of the few companies that aren't all in on AI. What do they have exactly? Gemini is Google, Microsoft and openAI have ChatGPT, X has grok, even Apple has Siri. Amazon should've joined the big AI race. They didn't and now they're declining
>>107027191One ordinary office grunt has 10 middle managers who are his immediate bosses.
>>107027222For how much muricans should about their right to bear arms to protect their freedom, then never fight back when their freedom is trampled over and over
>>107027390Amazon went from having 1.6 million employees in 2024 to 1.5 million in 2025 while actually expanding overallThey're at the forefront of automating away wagie jobsThere's much more to AI than chatbots, and for all of Bezos' many faults he clearly doesn't suffer from not invented here syndrome to the same degree Zucc and Elon do
>>107027158So they fired 30,000 "my day at work" roasties? who cares. amazon only needs a few IT people, a bunch of van drivers and warehouse drones, and perhaps a legal team. they dont need 30k hr karens and social media reps and diversity specialists.
>>107027432>So they fired 30,000 "my day at work" roastiesNah they fired white m*les
>>107027414>not invented here syndromeDidnt know what that was, Googled it and read the wikipedia. Apparently Microsoft became shit shortly after they stopped "dogfooding"So now i think NIHS is actually good. Devs should be forced to daily drive their own software, not rely on telemetry from normie retard dipshits. Judge a man by his fruit.
>>107027442okay, amazon doesnt need useless middle managers of any race or sex. they just need van drivers and box tossers. everthing else can be a.i.
>>107027158So what happens when AI bubble explodes??
>>107027247But anon, Enron literally went bankrupt because everyone there started to lie nonstop.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enron_scandal
>>107027885A bunch of innocent people become unemployed while the retards who made the bubble get off totally free.After some time the retards start investing in things that are actually worth something again and things start to hurt less.
>>107027158Good. I hope all coders die.
>>107027885They run out of excuses for people to rent their servers, and nothing happens because that's all been dwarfed by ad revenue. Except at Microsoft.
>>107027924There are no innocents. There are only winners and losers. You sound like a loser, loser. Try winning sometime. It rules.
>>107027158>major tech company lays off peopleWOWITS ALMOST LIKE IT HAPPENS EVERYFUCKINGYEAR
>>107027308>*fell for it again awardee*Kek. Imagine forgetting the time Amazon's AI turned out to be thousands of Amazing Indians.
>>107027391it's not funny because it's true
>>107027158yeah, and then their shit stops working and they have to re-hire the seniors at an increased cost for emergencylet's not kid ourselves, AI is not nearly smart enough to understand how all the CS essentials go together.sure it can understand cache if you prompt it specifically to do make code for that, but usually at the cost of something else. It's just too dumb to understand the nuances of a million line codebase and how everything works together
>>107027191Hiring more corporate employers because bezos is a sucker
>>107027158There is a reason there was aggressive racism throughout the history of the trades.The very fact of the white skin I see in the mirror is that there were racists for some time, and they competed for this race for resources.
lol
>>107027194Except AI proving to be better at replacing middle management and executives than regular workers.
>>107027991I'm employed, and thankfully not by some shithole like Amazon.
The retarded jeet janny needs to kill himself
>>107027158Isn't the current amazon ceo the dude whi just fires everyone and quits a year later
>>107029018He is a race traitor is what he is, but that is 90% of white people
>>107029053Not what I asked.
>>107029018he's the one that spearheaded AWS which in turn started the death of x86 for hyperscalers
>>107028217Amazon is a lot more than just AWS. Vast majority of it's employees work in the warehouses.
>>107029182And the majority of Amazon's profits are from AWS
>>107029231You ignored what I said. Profits do not correlate to employee counts, especially in tech. You clearly don't work the industry if you think you need tens of thousands to keep data centers going.
>>107027378Retard. You've never even had a job
>>107027158Sounds like Amazon is shitting the bed
>>107029264See >>107029265
>>107027885That headline is misleading, the capex for AI datacenters would be allocated elsewhere were AI datacenters not being built
>>107028444Yeah, that's who its targeting.You thought all the anti AI bullshit was being pushed by construction workers and farmers?
>>107027220It gradually gets harder and harder to do business when the currency is constantly being devalued thanks to a regime of permanent deficit spending.
>>107027158If AI can take your job, you dont actually have a.job, you have a task.I have a job. I could care less about the "AI" Meme
>>107030603AI can take your job.
>>10702715830k new H1B job openings!Bharatbros, post Diwali afterparty is just getting started.
>>107027222Soon brother
>>107030649It can't but I understand the projection
>>107030806If you think AI can't take your job, AI can take your job.
>>107027158BREAKING: Amazon, after firing 30k people, have just hired 40k Indians on H-1B Visas
>>107030819>>107030806
>>107030978>>107030819
>>107031075Concession accepted
>>107027885The economic correction that was meant to occur back in 2001-2008 will finally happened. This time there's nothing stopping it. The baby boomer who electorate who put in the breaks are already retired and dying. The younger generations have to pay for the massive tab of opportunity costs that came along with bad economic polices spanning over multiple decades.The gravy train is over kiddos. Time to bucket up for real this time. It will be a very bumpy ride.
>>107027158Manual labor should be completely automated and all the people who get phased should be given UBI. Everyone who can be trained to fill a new role should receive a salary that is more than the UBI. UBI receivers should be offered extremely low rent domiciles that are stacked vertically like crazy. You can even put university students in em too. Wanna slum it? K, slum it in a pod domicile with UBI.Yes, I am european.Yes, I am fully aware this is retarded.It is cheaper and space efficient.It will become a necessity once they roll out age reversal gene therapies.Why else do you think they're shilling Digital IDs and CBDCs out of nowhere all of a sudden?
>>107031447>Manual labor should be completely automated ROFL, nope. We are nowhere close to this. It will be menial white-collar stuff that will get hit by the next wave of automation.
>>107031465>It will be menial white-collar stuff that will get hit by the next wave of automation.I count that as manual labor so I am fine with it.
>>107027191>They had 350,000 corporate employees? What were they all doing?Pointless meetings and making pointless PowerPoint presentations mostly
>>107027991try slitting your wrists. remember, sideways for attention, longways for results
>>107027158>use ai as a stealth layoff excuse for shrinking your workforce to a more reasonable level now that the covid faucet has been dry for 3+ years and future economic outlooks are all pretty diceymost logical circumstance
>>107027158you have terrible reading comprehension
>>107031549its called a sankey diagram. they are commonly used in financial results these days but they're like 100 years old
>>107028217AWS is shit and overpriced and that has been the case for a long time.
>>107027158>>107031745
how many of those were hired during covid
>>107031912>a sankey diagramThanks!
>>107027396americans love being deepthroated by corporations and billionaires because they all think they're a few months away of becoming said billionaires themselves
>>107029335No it wouldn't. The only reason investors are putting so much money into AI is because it's a bubble in its mania phase. It's completely irrational and they wouldn't be doing it otherwise under the current interest rate regime. And this bubble has done massive harm to Americans because without it the fed would've already cut rates years ago and we would be in a real economic growth phase right now with new jobs being created instead of this slow death we've been in since 2022.
>>107027396>at least it's not the goberment doing it
>>107027323It's a matter of keeping the goyim in a constant state of stress and fear.
>>107032690
>>107027158It's now 14k and they blame all layoffs on AI now
>>107031447>manual labor automated>UBI>age reversal gene therapiesMan, they got you good.
>>107028217Are they hosting in Jamaica
>>107030603>I have a job.Sounds like you have a fat dick up your ass
>>107031447UBI would be an overt admission that some (most) people are just unnecessary to society and could very well be removed from it entirely. that means everyone who is on UBI will feel unwanted and resentful, while everyone who's not will treat the UBI-havers as parasites. that will only end badly. we NEED to think that we all need each other and that we are all somewhat equal, or we go crazy. that's why we need fake jobs like interior designer and product ownerall the other stuff you described is basically misery porn that would further aggravate the issues that UBI would cause
>>107032690cutting rates isnt going to do anything at this point. quantitative easing and dollar as the reserve currency has completely structured the US economy towards this weird asset inflation based clusterfuck where it's not worth doing anything except try to grift for more printed money. other countries no longer really want to buy US bonds so the system can't work anymore and asset inflation has disenfranchised anyone who actually works instead of owns. it's going to take years of delicate restructuring to make the US economic system less reliant on the memes it's built around, and at this point i doubt that will happen so it'll instead be something real wacky instead.my hope is that we, as in people in general, realize that most of our current problems are man-made, and we'll rewrite the rules and go for a smooth landing someway or another
>>107035262The whole point of UBI is in the name, it's universal so everyone gets it. You don't lose it just because you get a job. It makes administration simpler and avoids the issue of current benefit programs where people have to choose between losing their gibs and getting a job that actually pays less.
>>107027158>Economy doing shit>AI hype the only thing propping up the market>Invested billions in AI that isn't paying off>Mass layoffs scare investors and dumps stock price>Cutting AI investments will scare investors and dumps stock price>Firing thousands of US citizens to replace them with cheap pajeets is bad for opticsAmazon suggesting that they're laying people off because of AI is literally the only move that makes sense.If they'd really be able to make AI work so good that it merits firing tens of thousands of people, then they'd have an AI that is lightyears ahead of the other tech companies, and they'd just lease it out, destroy all competition and tenfold the stock price by next week.They're not, because their AI isn't actually capable of any of that.
>>107035304I'd say I wish you Yanks well on it, but I honestly have no hope in you solving your problems given how your politics are.
>>107035522it will have the same result, resentment towards those who can get jobs for extra money and resentment towards those who are mooching off everyone else. if you go the communism route and ensure everyone gets paid about the same regardless, then that invites corruption and people instead start trading favors insteadfake jobs for half the population is the most most tenable solution. it has mostly worked fine for these 200 years since the industrial revolution>>107035591im not even american, i just became interested in the american economic system since it caused me to get laid off in yurop tech some years ago lol
>>107027158China will win
>>107027158They using AI as excuse so stocks won't plummet you moron. If AI bubble pops it's 1929 again.
>>107027158looks like the visa clearance bribe check clearedmr bezos thanks ziondonjeet
>>107027885Amazing how retarded the tech board is here, there is no "AI bubble" it's fud made by China so they can invest heavily into it while USA is stuck in gayops.And we're talking about real automation not luddite cope about jeets
>>107027235half of stem graduates this year are unemployed of course its not overhiring
>>107036698Investors have spent several generations of wages to automate a handful of jobsHow is that bot a bubble?
>>107027562they fire workers not middle managers
>>107031447>why don't we just make a robot utopia where all drudgery is done by workbot 5000?Damn you're right, why hasn't anyone else thought of this before?
Amazon Games got cut. They are exiting gaming for AI.
>>107035145No, cause I'm waiting for yours
>>107027377>friends hiring friendsNot true.
>>107027432>>So they fired 30,000 "my day at work" roasties?That happened years ago, anon. Have you been sleeping under a rock?
>>107039003Sorry I missed the memo. What?
>>107036698>"Please hold the hot bag for my funny money grift!"Sad
>>107027432Other way around lol
>>107027158AI is a bubble. Those cuts would happen regardless.
>>107027158>You guys told me AI was a bubble...so is frankly most of the tech industry
>>107027396yup what a bunch of armed cucks, anyway any version of guy working against that isnt hollywood film its always called commie or terrorist post 40s america its so mindbroken with their propaganda
Is the layoffs thing a psyop?
>>107027396At the basis of the "american dream is the idea that all americans are temporarily challenged billionaires. This cope somehow convinces the slave class not to complain
>>107041777[spoiler]shut up[/spoiler]Oh no brahs, I just got laid off. AI can do anything I can in 2 minutes. Do not learn to code, the field is already dead. I certainly won't be swimming in money after the economic crisis caused by AI bubble burst due to expertise drought.
>>107041042Wake the fuck up, retard.
>>107027158don't they fire like 5-10% of the workforce every single year?
>>107027158>tech is dying vs AI is a bubbleWhy not both?
>>107041794Everyone complains, It's just the necessary remedy is a form of soft suicide.
>>107027390>what is Amazon Q and Bedrockretard detected
shouldn't technology bring us more jobs?
soon to be replaced by jeets who will work for 100 rupees an hour
>>107035262>UBI would be an overt admission that some (most) people are just unnecessary to society and could very well be removed from it entirely. that means everyone who is on UBI will feel unwanted and resentful, while everyone who's not will treat the UBI-havers as parasites.Yeah but we already have welfare and it's everything you described except that welfare recipients generally don't give a fuck and don't feel "unwanted and resentful".
They should just fire people at random to weed out unlucky employees.
>>107035893Envy for those with jobs and resentment/calling people parasites without jobs have always been the case, especially under capitalism.May as well introduce UBI anyways because nothing really changed.
If you've ever worked in an office you know layoffs are an inevitable fact of running business that survives, when people get comfortable they hire juniors they don't really need, their department quietly stops mattering but they keep going into to work, they get promoted to a new position that doesn't actually have any responsibilities allocated to it yet, until 2/3eds of your staff are doing 2 hours of sending chat gpt emails between each other as productivity theater, 5 hours of scrolling their phones and 1 hour of real work. All these people also are a net negative to the companies functionality rather than inefficient asset due to insane bloat and important tasks being sent into email hell forever. I can't imagine a modern office company surviving without semi frequent layoffs of this naturally building debris.
>>107041777Are you implying that the layoffs aren't significant just because there were more layoffs during a global pandemic where more than half the world abolished the economy for a few years?
>>107029343>You thought all the anti AI bullshit was being pushed by construction workers and farmers?Most farming is done by gigacorps full of white collar workers you retarded election tourist.
>>107043585>fire people at random to weed out unlucky employeestoplel
>>107044495I'm saying that there's no significant uptick in layoffs.
I don't know shit about business or technology but I'm thinking the layoffs are in a way testing the limitations of AI in their existing workflows. They're basically figuring out how many people out of those 30k they actually need by getting rid of everyone and selectively rehiring based on demand. It could very well be the case that they need 29k of those people, but they'll have to measure that first. I don't see this as a surefire "AI replaces 30k people now!" decision, it's a "How many people can we replace with AI? Let's find out!" decision.
