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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 14600K, 9600/X, 7800X3D
-Budget: 12/13100(~$65), 12400, 12600K, 7600X
Workstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D

*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5
*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, MX-4, Duronaut

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt 8gb (~$270)
-Used: 2060 Super, 2070, 2080ti
Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti
4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-Native: 5090
*FutureProofing: In general to an extent featureset>vram wins long-term

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), Gigabyte MO27Q28G or LG 27GX700A-B (WOLED)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)
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>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.
Nova Lake 2026
265k, 285k, and 9800X3d getting new oc'd variants soon
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other useful sites
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/
https://old.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/

>WTF WHY ISN'T THE CPU/GPU LIST ALL AMD AND ALSO IT'S RETARDED AND TERRIBLE ANYWAYS!?!!!!
Slowly working on it. Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op.

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Reminder :
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Spamming duplicate generals is against the rules
Real Thread Created First:
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>>107047340
>>107047340
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>>107047454
So is filling up the general with misinfo
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>>107047454
kys troon
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>>107047751
>>107047760

Just a reminder to anyone who might enter this thread, the retard is legit going to kill this general if he isn't somehow forced out.
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ignore the schizo troon thread
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I want the Meshify 3 to be on sale again.
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Helpful link, since I guess researching every post to make sure there's at least a good chance it's legitimate is mandatory now :
https://desuarchive.org/g/
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>>107048254
It'll be easy to identify dupes in this thread, Nico would be saging them.
For those out of the loop, the OP of the other thread has been spamming old questions to make it easier to time his new thread creations.
And he started spamming old questions in his old thread to bump it up.
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>>107048275
>Nico would be saging them.
Not if this is the thread the jannies delete this time
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>>107048288
Well, they're just shit at their jobs then.
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>>107048472
Buy one that's discounted to your budget, preferably with at least 16GB RAM and 1TB storage.
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warranty vs thermals, which one do you choose?
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>>107048664
Thermals, 100%. Warranty Void stickers are unenforceable in the US & EU.
And that CPU's so old, it's way past the standard 3-year warranty.
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>>107048664
If you complain enough they will still honor that warranty
deliding is retarded if you're going to actually use it though, what's possible vs an aio or "regular" custom loop isn't going to actually be usable without degradation.
>>107048298
pretty sure if the jannies do something they'll just flip a coin or delete everything.
>>107048242
chink cases with many exposed jagged and sharp bits are always on sale
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>>107048791
Shop around for existing deals on prebuilt PCs if you can't wait.
Try to get at least a 9600X, 7600X, or 14600K CPU and a 9070 or 5070 for that budget if it's a gaming PC.
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I got $1,500 or so, is it worth buying a prebuilt now vs on black friday?
I know they love to hike prices up then lower them down on the day itself.
I am an impatient fuck who can't wait 3 weeks for each individual part. And haven't built a PC in years.
Anyway...?
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>>107048812
Thank you father
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>>107048812
Is it worth waiting for Black Friday? And further, is there truly a difference between Black Friday and Cyber Monday?
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>>107048848
I also made you a list of a PC you could build for $1500.
A prebuilt will have worse overall specs.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pyqgVF

7600X is good enough for the 9070 XT.
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>>107048826
Prebuilts the only way?
Might as well wait for the sales, though there's some msi builds on woot right now actually.
Probably be looking for a shittier version of what you would build at roughly (could build for a bit less) the same price range, a 5070/9070 + i5/r5
Something like a similar processor + 4070/4070-super wouldn't be terrible either at a discount. When looking at prebuilts I would avoid last gen radeon (7700, 7800xt) though.
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>>107048856
>Is it worth waiting for Black Friday?
No one knows; some prebuilt companies might be cash-strapped and may offer holiday discounts earlier.

>And further, is there truly a difference between Black Friday and Cyber Monday?
I doubt it for pre-builts; there's a risk that the PCs worth buying could be sold out before Cyber Monday.
The prebuilts with Cyber Monday discount might be ones with poor specs that are harder to sell.

Just my speculation.
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Is 4k gaming worth it? Might hold on and bump up to 5070ti..
But I'm quite fine with my 1080 monitor still.
I just feel like it'd be dumb not to with a better gpu, like that
>t. 1660ti
>>107048826
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>>107048856
for the foreseeable future prices are only going up
the downstream effects of tariffs will only get worse and if anyone here was able to tell you when the AI bubble is going to pop they'll be a billionaire
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>>107048927
4k is nice but its hard to quantify the value proposition
I'd recommend you go for 1440p high refresh rate on a 5070ti, its still going to be way better than 1080p
>t. 4090 4k user who boughted for way less than it costs now
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>>107048927
Probably not worth it at the $1500 budget, it's doable by relying on upscalers and finding optimized settings.
It depends on how much you're willing to make it work.
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>>107048927
>>107048973
4k is worth it not for high DPI but for high FOV. Get an ultrawide or 42 inch 4k monitor (some OLED TVs are good for this) and position it ~2.5ft from your head. then max out your game's FOV setting.
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>>107049518
I wouldn't fuck with 13th gen CPUs fused on an Alibaba board.
Check if it's a non-K CPU, those are supposedly safe from degradation.
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>>107048927
So This is going to make me sound like an absolute chud, but I run a 50 inch monitor at 4k, but for gaming I run 3860x1600 with bars or 1080p in the center of the screen so I'm not looking around the screen to see the edges. I don't find that 4k is useful for anything but taking screenshots.
>>107049526
>>107049549
>>107049526
So I just plan on using it to do some relatively light cad/web browsing (3d printer small objects not large assembly maybe 7 parts max) and be able to run 3 monitors at once. I'm assuming 1 onboard and two from an older GPU.
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>>107049575
TV*, not monitor.
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>>107049575
Make sure the processor isn't a 13900K, the regular 13900 should be fine
The -K CPUs need official Intel microcode updates to protect them from overvolting & degrading
https://community.intel.com/t5/Mobile-and-Desktop-Processors/Intel-Core-13th-and-14th-Gen-Vmin-Shift-Instabilty-Update-New/m-p/1686948
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>>107049575
>>107049580
And while I'm responding to myself make sure you buy an RGB 4:4:4(though I don't know if i've seen a non 4:4:4 lately) not a BGR TV if you want to use it as a monitor.
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>>107049542
It's a laptop i9 isn't it? I don't even think those were effected by the same issues.
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>>107049596
I'm the guy that was talking about the aliexpress board, I'm reading that mobile CPU were not effected due to their lower power draw not resulting in power spikes large enough to destabilize unless I'm reading it incorrectly.
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>>107049591
56x multiplier is still dangerous, well above 1.4V boost voltages
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https://www.techpowerup.com/review/geforce-x60-history-benchmarks-image-quality/6.html
Friendly reminder that there is nothing wrong with the 5060 and it is nearly perfectly in line with progression of all Nvidia class 60 cards in general. It is even on the cheaper end for performance per dollar, adjusted for inflation.
>posted to make Nico mad
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>>107049664
This chart is the reason why people don't like the -60 cards.
Plus the 8GB VRAM thing.
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>>107049733
I got my waifu a 1060 when it came out, it was pretty sweet at the time.
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>>107048927
the 1660 TI is still fine, it still destroys most IGPU's and handhelds.
I would wait for when the true next gen PC comes out if you don't actually play games.
maybe DDR6 or when 24gb GPU's reach $800 (basically a 5070 ti 24gb, the same thing the 5060 TI 16gb did, technically it could reach 32gb, but Nvidia only cares about using the better chips for the RTX Pro 6000, since that's where the demand is, and I think Nvidia is about to get those better chips in a super refresh, but it's going to be pricey).
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>>107047450
absolutely based
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Reflection : Was DLSS Schizo really all that bad?
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>>107049931
He's gone because the rumors are true, which makes him a terrible person.
The sad thing is, he has more time to be a terrible person in other places that may not be safe for other people.
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>be afk replying to messages on my phone
>suddenly both my monitors start flickering like crazy
>resolution jumps all over the place
>oh god oh fuck oh god oh fuck this can't be happening
>can't click anything because the screen keeps turning off
>eventually everything goes back to normal
>click on the hidden icons tray on the taskbar
>AMD adrenalin software icon is gone
>it's over.png
>notice a new icon in there and hover over it
>AMD software installation manager: installation in progress
>AMD decided now is the perfect time to install a new GPU driver and not tell me anything
Nigga are you fucking serious, why is this even a thing? Are they trying to give me a heart attack?
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>>107049977
What were the rumors exactly? I have never once paid attention to any type of thread drama before the current Radeon schizo
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>>107049996
It's a windows thing. They do it on purpose, they are partnered with novideo.
Just install the driver from amd website.
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>>107047405
would a 5060 be enough for med 1440p?
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>>107049996
You can probably disable automatic updates.

>>107050013
It's very likely the DLSS guy is a PDF, if you get what I mean.
He couldn't refute the allegations and fucked off.
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>>107050017
>would a 5060 be enough for med 1440p?
For competitive shooters? Probably.
For AAA games? Doubt it.
Game devs keep bitching about having to work around the 8GB VRAM limitation.
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>>107050017
Don't buy ramlet cards. Used 3060 12GB cards are $150 if you like nvidia so much. Maybe you want to buy some merch instead.
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>>107050021
Yeah I turned it off now, this is fucking horrible. Good thing I didn't panic enough to shut the PC off, that probably would have ended in a disaster.
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>>107050017
8gb becomes a major point of cuckage beyond 1080p. If you're fine with doing things like turning texture settings down you'll be fine for now, but I would really try to see if you can stretch the budget or wait longer
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>>107050037
5060 would still be way more usable regardless of vram though
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>>107050056
Until it needs more than 8GB VRAM, not trying to FUD but it's a real issue past 1080p.
Somewhat manageable @ 1080p if you lower settings.
A lot of people are still on 1080p monitors, and they don't do the Ultra/Very High + High RT meme setting.
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>>107050056
A t-shirt or hat with the ugly green logo is even more usable.
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>by 2028
That'll be the PS5/PS6 cross-generation cycle of games, devs aren't abandoning the vast majority of PC gamers.
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>>107050111
Four options:
>Run all four DIMMs @ JEDEC spec
>Manually tune voltages, memory speed, and timings to run them near EXPO specs (or maybe even better)
>Use two sticks (don't mix kits, read serial number etc) and run them in EXPO
>Return all those sticks and buy a 2x 32GB kit
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Hi /g/
I want to get a new motherboard because I have an asrock x870 steel legend which seems to be one of the motherboards that most destrous X3D Ryzen cpus. I dont have an x3d cpu yet and would be afraid to upgrade to one of them with the motherboard I currently have.

The store of my bank for some reason has a cheap Asus Proart B650-creator in their store. Is that good enough? Will the b650 still be compatible with the new Ryzen cpus?
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>>107050210
B650 ProArt is a nice board, but you might have to learn how to use the BIOS Flashback feature to update the BIOS.
The update adds Ryzen 9000 CPU support and other stability improvements.
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I'm about to do my PC's mid life upgrade
>rtx 3070 to rtx 5070ti
>my shitty Deepcool cpu fan to a noctua chromax cpu fan
>an additional 2tb of nvme storage, samsung 990 pro Gen 4
This will also include a clean install of Windows on a 1TB gen 3 NVME (already installed) as well as installing Linux Mint on the 500GB Sata SSD that Windows is currently installed on for dual booting.

X670 Aorus Elite AX
7600X
G.Skill Ripjaws 32GB DDR5 (Actually this ram sucks ass, had to turn off xmp because it completely killed stability)
850W PSU
2x 2TB HDDs (legacy storage from my old PC, I'm thinking about building a PiNas for bulk storage)
2x Sata SSD's 1x 1TB and 1x 500GB
2x m.2 NVMEs, 1x 1TB and 1x 4TB
Phanteks eclipse case

>>107050067
Tell that to my current GPU, running FFXVI on it with 8GB was a nightmare, games like Spiderman at 4k with RT, no problem, 80fps average, FFXVI at 1080p couldn't even maintain a stable 60fps.
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This is nuts. All you people talking about 4k gaming and "IF" you can do it.
I built my pc in 2017 and people were taking about 4k gaming.
The fuck is going on?
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>>107050570
because people want to run new games at 4k not old games at 4k
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>>107050633
Well some other anon mentioned taking the refresh pill at 1440.
That's what I did 10 years ago and it's still working out great.
Screw those big chink TVs.
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>>107049996
When I was 15 I changed my resolution and it saved and the screen was black.
I had the computer do a diagnosis thing that took more than a day because I thought maybe a virus got it or it would tell me what was wrong.
But then I just came to my senses and had to figure out how to get the resolution back.
At school I would practice navigating the desktop slowly and then do it with my eyes closed so I could click buttons like "apply" and I learned keyboard shortcuts so I could navigate the page without seeing it.

It worked. I felt like a god for that entire week. Everything was easy breezy. You know when you lift a huge burden off of your shoulders? It was like that. Like nothing could ever go wrong again.
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>>107050089
Stop outsourcing code to jeets. Tighten it up we'll wait another year for X game.
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>>107050633
wrong, i want to play half life 2 in 8k at 360hz. in reald 3d too.
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>>107047405
If you had 1700$ to buy a cpu, motherboard, ddr5, AIO, and case what would you buy?
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>>107050791
1700 and no need for gpu?
go to pcpp order by price and pick the most expensive shit
no really
Whats the pc for? what gpu are you using with that?
These kind of questions always seem too made up for anybody to care
Who would win Goku or saitama?
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I just have 1 component in my build I don't know if I should get used: the cpu (ryzen 7 7700)
Someone is selling one used in my city (testing available) for 900 lei/205 usd/177 euro, or I can get a new one for 1050 lei/240 usd/207 euro (both without a cooler)
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>>107050802
I'm giving my old rig to my friend. It has a 3090ti and a 2tb samsung nvme m.2 ssd as well as a 1000w seasonic psu. The cpu and board and ram are all outdated. I figured a new AIO would also be in order since he wants it to last at least 5 years without needing an upgrade. Also giving him my 165hz 1440p pg279q monitor and my k95 keyboard and headset.

So yeah. If you had 1700$ for a new case, AIO, cpu, ram, and board what would you buy?
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>>107050809
So you have made progress on the build since the last thread?
Thats nice to hear
30€ difference is a lot as that basically pays for the cooler and CPU usually have long lives, i myself am currently on a 2nd hand cpu anda shitty cooler (out of laziness) and never had a problem.
Being able to see the cpu working and maybe running a stress test i would probably bite that bullet if those 30€ may be the difference but im also very good on accepting my losses. if tomorrow my cpu doesn't work i dont spend a single second thinking
>i should have bought it new
life its what it is, and i made a decision.

Can you share the rest of the build? Igave you a decent build last thread that im hoping at least gave you some direction
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>>107050809
is the poponar willing to haggle? I assume not since he's willing to test stuff out
I wouldn't buy used CPUs that can be easily PBO'd into oblivion if not at a steep discount. CEL's offer is quite nice desu
depends on how much are you willing to gamble by cutting your expenses
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>>107050816
Case - Meshify 3 or maybe a fishtank style case if you prefer that kind of thing, like Hyte Y70 or Lian li O11D Evo
Cooler - go to tech powerup and pick whatever has the best performance, which seems to be the Lian Li GA II Lite 360. Or a Thermalright Wonder Vision if you really need a giant screen on it
cpu - 9800x3d
ram - whatever 6000 cl28 or 26 kit you like the look of, I think the patriot viper elite looks nice enough. 2x16 or 2x24
board - anything that has a postcode and looks nice, but not asrock
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>>107050816
Thank you, i might have sounded like an asshole but it was a weird post.
We want somebody that lasts for a while and allows your friend to eventually swap the 3090ti for maybe a 60 series card in a few years.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pbXGyW

Maybe something like that.
You could get a 9950x3d instead but i personally think thats overkill and that money is better put towards a new generation cpu in a few years, maybe when you update the gpu.
Could also get a more expensive ram brand but i have yet to have a problem with kingston fury.
The case is 99% a personal choice for aesthetics, i went for a fishtank one so you can see the screen on the aio and shit but feel free to pick literally any other case in existence.
Let me know
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>>107050829
Some progress is that a friend has an unused mATX case. I'm also buying ram today or tomorrow before it gets expensive.

The man selling the cpu says he has a whole AM5 system, so I can test it. What program(s) should I use?
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>>107050885
You're right, saving 150 ron may not be worth it for a potentially oc'ed and trashed cpu with 2 years of use and no warranty
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>>107047405
>ryzen 7 5800xt for $169.74
>rog strix B550-f WiFi 2 for $183.33
I think this might be it...
>meanwhile the b550 taichi is still stuck at $288.71
wtf buttrock
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>>107051034
whachu doin anon
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>>107051061
uhh stuff...
>mfw I waited too long and all of the x570 boards are gone now, fuck my nigger life
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>>107051034
Doing a retro build?
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>>107051071
that's all I could afford rn boyo, all AM5 stuff are still nigh expensive from where I'm from, not to mention DDR5 ram prices are shooting up all of the sudden
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>>107051034
>a bajillion dollars for last gen hardware
might as well go full poverty and grab a combo deal for a 12100F + mobo + 16GB DDR4 RAM for like 150 bucks
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>>107051092
>DDR5 ram prices are shooting up
same goes for ddr4, it nearly doubled since last year all time low
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Are there fishtanks with triple 140s on the bottom? I think those cases should abandon any idea of the side fans being of much use as a primary air source, rather they're there to ensure air flows towards the back. Could do that with a single 120. The primary air intakes should be on the floor and so having space for triple 140s instead of only two seems like an easy idea to implement.
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>>107051206
Huh, even the overpriced kit I have went up by nearly 80 euro.
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>>107050570
The Jews forced UE5 onto devs to steal your frames.
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>>107051264
Lian li O11 vision (non-compact version) does
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Why is USB3.2 Gen 2x2 (20gbit usb) not standard on motherboards in 2025 current year of our lord? I wasn't paying attention and my mobo has USB 3.2... Gen 1, which is rebranded USB3.0, which every fucking PC made in the last 15 years has!
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>>107051092
its just that the 5800xt was a weird choice imo if you are budgeting
any chance of 2nd stuff in your corner of the world? a 2nd hand 5600x and a b550 mobo
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>>107051506
are bottom intakes good? let it be known that im an absolute retard but wouldnt the narrow space below the case limit the airflow the fans can pull?
In b4
>air is ethereal anon, it doesnt need to fit below the case
Yeah sure but the "real state" those fans can pull from is massively reduced compared to the top or the front of the case where all the fans can pull at once
Again im a retard, i just dont imagine the bottom being the primary intake of fresh air being optimal
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>>107050829
I'll be brainstorming all the parts in about 7 hours. Probably going to wait 1 week for everything besides ram, maybe black friday helps
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>>107051590
It depends on the case as to how much space there is to pull air. It's usually enough. What really matters is taht it can be pulled directly into the gpu.
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which is the real thread ?

>>107047100
>Got a 27 inch to 55 inch comparison pic?
that's just 4x as in width and height
also yes pic related

>>107047491
>I just wish tv's had higher refresh rates like monitors to 240hz. I like the qd oled color pop & brightness, but the woled tv white and 10% window brightness is better because its much bigger panel and beats out the monitors in this respect.
as do everyone but they will keep sandbagging every year with maybe +20hz when they can just bump it up higher instantly 144 165 maybe next year 180 then 200 then 220? then 240? like 4 more fucking years for 240?
lcd tvs already have 240hz but in 1080p modes too
I'm pretty done with monitors I mean why even get them instead of a TV, unless I want cheap multiple monitors for static crap I guess
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>>107051131
I already did with a gigabyte b450 DS3H and a ryzen 5 2600, this is the 2nd time since then, time for the endgame
>>107051575
> 5800xt was a weird choice imo if you are budgeting
elaborate on this assumption, and Im done taking chances with 2nd hand parts
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>>107047405
>incel I5 12600k are still priced at $339.65 in my wackass cunt
lmao wtf
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>>107051846
190 euro /here/, which is still bad, because the 14400F is 145 euro and the Ryzen 7700/9600 are 200 euro.
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>>107050570
5090 and you can render above 4k in pretty modern games just fine and if you tvmaxx you will see the difference
small display? you barely can see shit
4k gaming just fine in competitive games like battlefield
4k 240hz is more optimal than 1440p 500 because you can't push the frames anyway

>>107051846
should have bought the 14600k for free when it was free
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>>107051034
>>107051092
intel will give you better value and performance, i don't know where you live so i can't tell you what to get
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>>107051824
>elaborate on this assumption, and Im done taking chances with 2nd hand parts
I meant it literally and earnestly. That for a budget build you might be better serviced by a weaker cpu like the 5600x i mentioned and putting the 50-60$ difference towards the mobo or whatever else you might need.
However if you are aiming to get a better am4 setup as a swan song for that platform and the rest of your parts
>time for the endgame
Then you can get the 5800xt, nothing wrong with the chip.
Have a young Michael Caine for your troubles anon.
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https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-disables-usb-c-power-on-radeon-rx-7900-moves-rdna2-rdna1-gpus-to-sub-branch-in-latest-driver

This means game optimizations for version 25.10.2 only apply to RX 7000 and RX 9000 cards. The reason is unclear, but the new combined driver package, now 1.56 GB, includes two branches in one installer: 25.20 for RX9000/7000 and 25.10 for RX 6000/5000. Installing it effectively downloads two separate drivers. AMD has not said whether this dual-branch setup will continue or if this was a one-time release. Either way, it’s not great news for RX 6000 (RDNA 2) and RX 5000 (RDNA 1) users.

POODNA2 FAGGOTS NOW ON LEGACY SUPPORT

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>107051867
>>107051878
Im not planning on buying any intel product anytime soon
>>107051888
I've checked most of the local vendors in my cunt, there isnt a better choice in the AM4 lineup, AM5 stocks still cost 2 pairs of kidney here
I did saw a gigabyte x570 aorus ultra for $195.12, and a asrock x570 steel legend for $220.57, neither looks good compared to what the asus rog strix b550-f wifi 2 offers, msi b550 tomahawk max wifi looks good to at $176.46
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>>107050829
>>107050885
Another update, I found this motherboard: https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-de-baza/msi/pro-b650m-p/

It looked like the best mATX at a low price, which doesn't sacrifice i/o
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>>107051940
>Im not planning on buying any intel product anytime soon
suit yourself then
14th gen is >50% faster in games and multicore workloads
i know because i've owned both
14600K should cost about the same as a 5800XT for you, and would work fine on a cheap B660/B760 DDR4 board
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damn tvs are cheap, a 1100€ 60hz qled tv is now down to 320€ on sale
Philips 55” PUS7800
would be a nice meme display for my laptop
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>>107052013
>Qled
>60 Hz

Yeah
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So if I understood it correctly this RAM shitshow is here to stay, with that in mind am I better off buying a 16x2 set or two 32 sticks? somehow prices are about the same.
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I mentioned this on a previous post how im waiting for black friday to buy a poverty tier 1440p monitor
This is currently the filter on pcpp, anything else i should check?
Basically my idea is hoping to get one of the screens that are today 225-250 for 175-200 i dont expect them to be giving them away.
What are things i should check once i start checking the specific models
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>>107052053
anon nobody here knows shit about jack
however how often have you seen prices go up after a surge and then go back down to where they were?
They might keep increasing or they might not but i wouldnt bet on they coming back to the price we had one month ago, the new prices will be the new normal
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>>107052053
buy this before prices keep rising
https://www.newegg.com/patriot-memory-viper-elite-5-16gb-ddr5-6000-cas-latency-cl30-desktop-memory-white/p/N82E16820225357?Item=N82E16820225357

already went from $50 to 67
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>>107050210
>Will the b650 still be compatible with the new Ryzen cpus?
If the past is anything to go by then yes, amd knows that one of the appeals of the architecture is the longevity
You should be able to slot a 10xxx or beyond cpu in the future with a bios update.
Thats just going by what they have done until now, shit might change tomorrow
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>>107051960
>14600K should cost about the same as a 5800XT for you
fuck no, i just checked its hovering at $271.47 to 254.50, more than what Im willing to pay for a processor, "cheapo" b660/b760 boards doesnt look like worth any money
and I havent mentioned this yet, but I need at least 6 sata ports, Im sure intel boards have atleast one but I dont wanna bother at this point
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>>107052140
>but I need at least 6 sata ports
imagine the amount of dolphin porn anon has on all those hdd
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>>107052022
let me guess, I need more?
it's 319€
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>>107052152
this reminded me how one time on /vg/ a catbox link contained genuine unironic dolphin porn, a man having sex with a female dolphin by penetrating her orifice with his member
before that I assumed it was just a joke
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>>107052152
granny porn actually, but not just smut either
Im archiving my blurays too
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>>107052140
>fuck no, i just checked its hovering at $271.47 to 254.50, more than what Im willing to pay for a processor
lol well then
14th gen is not a generation you buy used
and i'm not sure the lower end models like a 14400 is worth it (there's a chance you get alder lake with those)
>"cheapo" b660/b760 boards doesnt look like worth any money
they're fine
unless you need 50 SATA ports and a blinking logo showing everyone you've joined the republic of gamers
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well a few minutes of googling showed me that I'd be better with two 32s, thanks anyway
>>107052073
I may be a huge ret/a/rd and someone far away from the whole world of the IT and big biz but its AI guys who are buying RAM right? look what they did to GPUs.
AI fuckers have unlimited money and unlimited demands, they won't stop or slow down, in fact once they buy out everything they can from the market they will book everything they can from the production side turning the RAM shower into a trickle for the regular Joes.
The price will go up, me buy now. t. 3IQ
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>>107052185
u sound suspiciously like a fucking shill or is it just this particular subreddit
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>>107052055
The XG27ACS is already discounted in that pic, $219 in the US atm all-time low was $189 on the ASUS store.
Looks like the LG 27GS75Q-B is offered for a good price too (currently $230 in US).
I wouldn't mind getting that LG right now. Maybe even the XG27ACS.
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>>107052204
>is it just this particular subreddit
this particular what
the subtext is literally that you should get the 5800XT
you have requirements and a budget that can only be met by AM4, according to you, so just do it
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>>107052204
He's helping you avoid potentially degraded, used 14th-gen chips.
Check the link given in >>107049591
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>>107052022
it might even have an ips panel, the 7805 55" in a review had an IPS panel
interesting
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>>107052055
I will once again vouch for the G50D. Great display for 200 euro and an S- tier stand that can rotate, swivel, pivot, tilt, etc. in any direction imaginable (not S+ tier because it's very deep)
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>>107052162
Yes. At least get mini LED
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>>107052262
there's no minileds for 319€ sir
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>>107052245
like I said not buying anything intel nor buying any 2nd hand items
>>107052230
robobeech
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>>107052013
tvs are cheap because they come with bloatware like prebuilds.

but yeah some are really cheap and good like lg oleds can be had as low as $500
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>>107052288
>not buying anything intel
Yet you've checked prices on Intel CPUs and boards on your own time.
Quit being retarded and buy whatever AMD CPU you want.
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>>107052288
>not buying anything intel
techtuber worms in your brain
but you already made your choice, you came here for validation, not advice
just go buy the 5800XT and fuck off
lmao
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>>107052310
>>107052312
jesus christ you two...
I could almost set my watch on it
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>>107052331
or maybe its just one raging unpaid shlomo
who knows at this point
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>>107052297
I am once again considering a 42" c4 for 730€
problem is I don't have any good hdmi2.1 out
so 1440p144hz or 4k60
a cheap large screen lcd would not be bad
worst come to worst I can flip it for the same cost which is kind of the thing also
lol
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>>107052347
i already checked prices in a few first world countries and there's no reason to buy AM4 new in any of them
if zen 4, or even zen 5, released on AM4 it would be a different discussion
but AMD didn't do that, instead they keep releasing terrible budget parts that you can only buy in a brazilian favela so redditors can pretend the platform is still alive
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>>107052162
Do whatever the fuck you want. Cost of that TV is directly matched to its features.
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>>107052451
>in a few first world countries
well guess what bitch nigga...
I live in the jungle...
and down here in the jungle, things are a little bit different...
jungle vendor dictate jungle prices...
and so the jungle way of life continues...
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>>107052280
You get what you pay for with TVs. TCL makes the miniled panels for a bunch of manufacturers and they have good ones for 1/3 the premium brands. Qm7k or whatever the Europe equivalent is.
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>>107052364
Get a better PC that can run those screens.
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>>107052491
>I live in the jungle
yeah i could tell
AMD is taking good care of you
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AMD's also releasing the 7500X3D as a region-restricted product soon.
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>>107052521
>>107052567
thats nice dear but Im still not buying your hot plates that you call processors
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>>107052567
that's fine
what's not okay is techtubers and redditors pretending like AM4 isn't a dead obsolete platform
the article is literally called "AM4 lives" but if you actually read it you find out that actually AMD is just sending a few garbage bin 5800X3D rejects to latin america
>>107052579
we know, you already told us
feel free to stir up another brand war
/pcbg/ hasn't had enough of those yet
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>>107052227
Yeah the asus xg has never been this cheap but im in no hurry until i see if black friday helps the other ones even if this one doesnt get discounted
The LG was 20€ cheaper 10 days ago, hopefully it goes back to that price on black friday
Ill keep those in mind

>>107052260
It was about 20€ cheaper about 10 days ago, i ll keep it in mind if it goes down to that price again during black friday
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>>107052623
huh? the fuck is a 5500x3d
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>>107052667
redditors favorite chip
praise AMD! praise lisa su!
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>>107052667
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It's just good business to continue making AM4 CPUs, because it also keeps TSMC happy.
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>>107052700
of course
i'm just making fun of redditors, for AMD it's nothing but more profit
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Do I use 12 vhpwr connector that came with my PSU or the 3 PCIe to 12 vhpwr adaptor that shipped with GPU? Does it matter?
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>>107052746
I used the Corsair PSU cables because no way I'm using that many wires.
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>>107052754
Cool config, looks industrial. Are the naugh tuah fans perceptibly better than stock Thermalright ones?
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>>107052778
I never tested it honestly. Preferred having the led TR fans on top so I can see if the computer is on quickly.
Bought the a12 g2 to replace some old f12 fans. Will probably put the f12s on the bottom eventually.
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>>107052746
I'd use the cable included with the PSU.
Make sure the connectors are firmly seated on both ends of the cable.
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What could I put in place of a 5.25 dvd drive? I bought a used workstation that came with one of those drives but I doubt it that I'll have a use for it
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>sold 1 year old 5700x3d for exactly as much as I bought a new 7800x3d for
>also bought 64gb ram just before the prices started climbing
I should start gambling
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TONIGHT I'm gonan do it. Totally goinan fuckin do it. I am gunna try ant SUCK my own COCK!!! I taste my own cum from jackan off but it is not satisfy enough. I need to feeel it shootan on my tongue. I will bee in extacee. I am so excite boys!
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>>107052992
this anon has an AMD Radeon
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>>107052955
5.25in Bay Blank Filler with SSD/HDD mounts
https://www.density.sk/dfb525-100d-bay-filler/

5.25in USB Bays, fan controller bays, and some audio equipment.
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>>107052992
this anon roleplays as nico yazawa in /pcbg/
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https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/hdds/wd-launches-investigation-into-problems-with-its-smr-hard-drives-the-same-drives-that-got-wd-sued-in-2021-now-reporting-failure-rates-due-to-fundamental-flaws

HE BUYED BOUGHTED WD INSTEAD OF SEAGATE
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>>107048862
>7600X is good enough for the 9070 XT.
The 7600x is good enough for every GPU if you are not an esports autist.
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>>107053089
I might get a ssd/hdd mounts. I don't need them right now but I'll keep it in mind, fan controller looks cool but I don't have enough fans to want to fuck with them. Thanks
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>>107053131
I only buy CMR drives from them. So this doesn't affect me.



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