smogasboard editionPrevious: >>107018252>Keyboard recommendation template:https://pastebin.com/n220xk9V >Find vendorshttps://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list // Up-to-date list of reputable vendors with brief descriptionshttps://keycaplendar.firebaseapp.com // Tracker for current and upcoming keycap group buys>This keyboard stuff is so expensive!https://aliexpress.com (or Taobao if you know how)>Learn about Cherry MX switcheshttps://rentry.org/mkg_switches // Introductory guidehttps://www.theremingoat.com // Switch reviewshttps://www.switchesdb.com // Compare force curves>Split and non-standard layout resourceshttps://compare.splitkb.comhttps://keyboard-design.com>What does ______ do to a keyboard's sound?https://blacksimon.tv/science (Google sheet)>Practice typinghttps://monkeytype.comhttps://www.keybr.comhttps://thetypingcat.comhttps://play.typeracer.com>How Cherry switches do backlighting, and why it's not idealhttps://rentry.org/mkg_backlightr
tfw no low profile split 75% keyboard with staggered rows
1. Beige is disgusting, looking2. Full Keyboards are for trannies3. Topre boards are membrane boards4. cherry MX switches are trash5. The wire on your keyboard acts like an antenna, and broadcasts your keystrokes in a 300 meter radius.
>>107055527>Beige is disgusting, lookingFunny, the whole advantage of beige is it doesn't look disgusting when it's not cleaned once a week, whereas black gets dusty and white gets grimy. In the most literal sense I would say retro gray is one of the least "disgusting" colors.>Full Keyboards are for tranniesI did some trans keyboard investigations once and it's true a lot of them use full-size (although, honestly, I couldn't discern a difference between tranny keyboard taste and anyone else's). I think the simple fact is that men like full-size boards, whether they wear dresses and call themselves "Alice" or not.The other three provocations aren't really worth replying to
Why is it so hard to find 100% cases, are numpads really that unpopular?
>>107055760Once you've tried anything less wide than a full-size it's hard to go back to having your alphas so far to the left. (t. using my full-size right now after using my 65% for a few weeks)I think a lot of people eventually move on to one of the many other numpad layouts like 96%, 1800, 60% + numpad, XT, southpaw numpad, etc. With that said, there are some 100% boards coming down the pipe. E.g. geekhack DOT org/index.php?topic=125346.0 this one's "95% done" the final round of prototypes, so likely getting a GB soon
What is the modern equivalent to Micro Switch hall effect switches?
>>107055760Yeah, there really is no use case for numpads anymore. The only people who still need them are Excel and CAD specialists.
>>107055899Also keep in mind you can do numpads accessed via layers. I need a numpad for all the alt codes I've memorized so I use this layer when I'm using my 65%
I want to build a keyboard that sounds like those old green alps. Every video result I have gotten on YouTube for how to get bassier sounding boards looks incredibly homosexual though, and the result is something that sounds like a tap dancing floor rather than a keyboard, all the switches they choose sound the same like that too.
how long until i can get a tmr dactylthat would literally be an endgame keyboard for me
>>107056012When you design it yourself.
>>107056179You legit need to have 200iq to get tmr to work
>>107056201Good luck, anon.
Anything over 42 keys is bloat.
Anyone ever used a Logitech G413 SE, if so how was it?
Haha! New GOAT stabilizers! If you can't find Knight V4s in stock, these are the ones you should go for!>>107055527Absolute shitpost.>>107055760I recommend the Intro S100 if you can still get one! I got three! Might even get a fourth! Hahahaha!
Should I try out the LICHICX Raw Silent Switches (Tactile-P variant)?
are there any good split, ergonomic keyboards that have the same number of keys as a standard TKL or more?
>>107055952Layer mapping ftw. I mapped the numpad over the regular numbers, though your layout activates my neurons so thanks mate
>>107056434Go for it. I haven't tried the tactiles but the lichicx silent linears are good switches.
>>107055952>789 not on 789
>Left sided numpadOpinions? Seems great for data entry where UI interaction is frequent and gay
>>107055317
imagine being at keyboard
>>107057068YAGNI
>>107057120Better than being at soup.
what is thee best gaming laptop
keyboard
>>107056434I think they're pretty good. They're very scratchy though. Coming from Cherry I was fine with that, some people dislike it.
>>107057216Indeed
>>107057180Wooting he80 easy
>>107057447jesus christ that is sexy ty
>>107057447>>107057517can I keeb you in the pussy?
>>107057544why you have a challenger?
Tips for picking up girls at the keyboard meetup later this month? Thinking of getting a 40% maybe
>>107057689Show them your gherkin
>>107057544>tfw there is a space bar on my desk wrapped in tissue paper that has been inside my vagina
>>107057839Is it 6.25u or 7u though?
any good transparent keycaps for pic related? can't see shit at night with the leds on
>>107057967>can't see shit at night with the leds onturn the LEDs off
>>107058076can't see shit with the leds off either, I need translucent keys
>>107057967>good>transparentPick one.Get a nice lamp instead.
>>107057967learn to type correctly and you won't need the light
>>107057967There really isn't such thing as "good" transparent. Imo it's best to lean into the cheesy cheapness of them and buy womier pudding keycaps.
>>107058424ended up buying the cheapest with translucent fonts, fuck it
>>107058463That's probably the best, when you need transparent keycaps you are in a lost situation and should just buy whatever is cheapest, it's a "lipstick on a pig" category
Need to buy a couple sets of switches so I can suss out which kind of linears I like, ideally on opposite sides of the spectrum and maybe a third in the middle. Any recommendations/current favorites?
>>107058966Bro they are linear, they all have a linear force curve. It doesn't matter.But if you really care look at the last thread, a few lists of meme linear switches are there
>>107058966You can get a switch tester.
>>107055527Absolutely mindbroken and obsessed tranny% cuck.
>>107059409>T- owns a full Keyboard like a good tranny
>>107057967Try the "milk fog" keycap set.http://amzn.com/dp/B07JR7MC47
I got a new PB on 60s yesterday. 71wpm still sucks but maybe I can get close to 100 by the end of the year.
>>107059555FullsizeGODS aren't subhumans like tranny% larpers are, try again.
Has anyone here tried the GMK104? It's the only other readily available 100% that looks like it's worth even trying, it's just Redragon and Keychron stuff otherwise, the latter of which I'm already tired of.I regret not getting an S100 when its group buy was still going, and there's no other interesting 100% GBs going on it seems.
>>107058966Get MX Blacks and then get something opposite to that (some kind of smooth factory lubed long pole short travel switches with a light spring)
>>107059647Good luck. Make sure to do some 3000-word practice sessions
>>107059710>This dude with a numberpad doesn't know he is larping as a data entry salary man from the 80s
>>107059800>FOTM anime picYep, 110% a tranny larper. A nerve was struck, it seems.
>>107059727Just be patient and get one of the upcoming boards like the Class100.
>>107059832Ok Mr tranny expert, PhD in transology over here examining my every transmotion writing his transthesis
>>107059912Two tranny% boards and one unfortunate GODsize one, the odds are NOT in your favor with that pic troonbro. You just proved me right.
>>107059958Holy crap you are a Sherlock, I cant hide it from you. I am a straight up tranny man, thats why I know full boards are Trans boards
>>107059844I'm just not a fan of it not having the 4 keys above the numpad like the original it's based on, and opting to put a badge there instead. It's a shame, because it's an otherwise cool looking board. I don't even mind badges all that much, especially if they were placed elsewhere, but it also really clashes with its aesthetic.
>>107060009You seem pretty upset about your poor choice of images biting you in the ass. Oh well, better luck next time on your attempts at owning GODsize Kings, trannybro. You'll rent-free post about us unprompted next thread, too.
>>107060083 im on a cross site mission to label full size boards as the new tranny board :3 ive been on this mission for months with some successMy real enemy is the number pad
>has tranny pics saved to his device>says he isn't oneCurious! Least retarded and afflicted by cognitive dissonance tranny% advocate.
>>107060055first off, you're posting pics of the badge before the redesign, so that's not what it's going to look likeand secondly, if you're going to be this picky, you're never going to buy anything lol
>>107060253I actually didn't know they were planning on redesigning parts of it, I just checked the form and it seems they're likely set on doing just what I said for the badge.>if you're going to be this picky, you're never going to buy anything lolYeah, it's an issue. Truth be told I'd have probably stayed content with my old Logitech G910 years and years ago, if Logitech's quality actually matched their prices, and if they didn't kill LGS for GHUB. I recently found out how annoying it is to make macros on VIA compared to LGS or even Synapse that did specific things, like repeating an input/macro for the duration you're holding a key. Very niche uses these days, since I don't game that much anymore, but it was definitely quite annoying and had me wanting to go dig up my G910 lolDetachable cables ruined me, though. I just can't go back to gaymer shit unless they de-shittify their software, make their boards hotswap, etc., which is still an issue to this day since many like having their own ecosystem and not letting you service them.Thanks for the heads up though, I'll be keeping an eye on that one for sure with that information. Now if only we could get some info about the Zoom 109/Max, soon.
>>107060250Anon...you cannot read :3 I am literally a tranny and told you that twice. You need to get your head checked buddy. Just in case you still don't understand. I. Am. Trans. Gender.
So mindbroken he's just ironic shitposting now.
>>107055527>The wire on your keyboard acts like an antennaUSB-C cables are shielded, they have differential pairs. Maybe micro USB cables are shit.Also metal keyboards shield everything just fine, especially with a metal plate on top. That's why they have to move the wireless antenna out of the metal case, else it doesn't work.>>107055645>>Full Keyboards are for tranniesThis is a trannie psyop
>>107055901kinda defeats the purpose. micro switches have no travel. hall effect switches are no contact switches. plus the microswitch has small travel distance, hall effect have some minimum range required for detection
>>107055909I use it once in a while when I use the calculator app. I'll probably get a 75% + a separate numpad
>>107056201nah just trial&errorany example chips that are used in recent keyboards? they have analog outputs so you mux them into ADC of micro, probably similar to what they're doing with HE
>>107057068>Intro S100that numpad layout is for right hand, not left hand. you need enter + - on left side of the numpad
>>107060356>you need enter + - on left side of the numpadNo you don't
>>107060361um yes you do. you press enter (for =) on the edge of the keyboard
>>107060319I don't get all this concern trolling about ne'er-do-wells (and feds) using such roundabout methods to spy on you. PCs and pretty much every OS has backdoors built into them for feds to let them into your shit if they really want to.Like, has no one even paid attention to any news or politics in the last several years either? They can easily make you a target by seizing your shit, breaking into it with ease and dumping all kinds of incriminating shit into it if they want. That's if they're nice enough to leave you alive, too. Like ffs, Hollywood had mercs larping as NZ cops raid Kim Dotcom's house in a foreign country to kill him due to his piracy site being popular as fuck, and Dread Pirate Roberts had literally dozens of feds larp in a library to catch him.What the fuck is worrying about cables and vibrations going to do there?
>>107060319Usb-c cables are NOT shielded. TEMPEST-QUALIFIED keyboards use DINs and PS2 connectors. USB is practically invented to be spied on. Secure keyboards that use USB use end-to-end encryption. And no, keyboards act like satellite dishes, they need full metal casing above the pcb too.
>>107060387>you press enter (for =) on the edge of the keyboardTotally arbitrary and unimportant. You might as well move esc to the upper-right corner too because "it needs to be on the edge of the board". Made-up requirements from an infirm mind
>>107060462>Usb-c cables are NOT shielded.wtf you talking about you moron?
>>107060476completely not arbitrary and of major importance. right hand "feels" the enter on the edge. just like that on the left it needs to feel the enter on that edge. + and - as well. I am right and you are wrong, deal with it
>>107060342I have one of these guys in a box somewhere kek, was never able to get it output anything but jitter on my raspberry pi :(
>>107060482NTA but it depends on cable, and you have so much chinkshit cables out there that probably don't have proper shielding.
>>107060482Shut the fuck up and stop pretending you know shit retard. Research TEMPEST EMSEC keyboards. See all the bullshit they go through to make your cable not act like am antenna
>>107060495top kek that's a current measurement chip lmaoplus that bitch is huge af they use one for each switch. what you have is using TMR to read the EM field of the loop carrying the current, to measure the current in it. kekfrom what I've seen in keyboard photos, it's something small like this:https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/multidimension/TMR1208S/14301746https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/coto-technology/RR122-1A22-511/11624737not these particular ones, but this kind of chip. not sure how tf they read them. I'll see when I get my HE keyboard.
>>107060505so get a fucking proper USB-C cable then>>107060538that's glowie paranoia standards, don't mean your phone will sense your fucking keyboard wire. if you a glowie doing glowies shit idgaf about your dramas
>>107060250What a beautiful beast.
>>107060493More arbitrary metrics to support a completely arbitrary convention.
>>107060546 mehttps://youtu.be/-ACzdexrGgM?t=126for example here, the chips seem something smaller with more pins. they might have an enable pin, which comes from micro to each of them, and all feed their outputs into micro ADC line. so micro just enables each in turn, reads their voltage output and turns them off and moves to next one. there's also some sot-23 packages once every few chips, have no clue what those are for. there's also QMK files for HE line from Keychron, so those may be revealing as well. but it's not rocket science for sure
>>107060595and HE is simpler since it measures on vertical axis, to chip, so has to be right under switch and it all works out fine.TMR reads field change on one of the horizontal axis, and placement is also to one side on the switch footprint. that might be some trial&error thing. so best bet is to clone the arrangement and use the same chip from a TMR keyboard, just to know you'll get something out of it when switch actuates.
>>107060595>sot-23 packagesah that's the diode for normal switches.
>>107060538Canada developing that shit is so funny. Canada does absolutely nothing to stop Chinese spies from participating in everything, because that would be racism. But they have a huge problem with leaking sensitive info, so uh... we need better, um, shielding, on our devices
>>107060546Lmao I know its not the same thing as the switch. I was using it as a proof of concept, to get any unidirectional, bidirectional, or just a zero point working. Im simply not high Iq enough to get the sensitivity or zero point to work :(
So fucking hot.
Copper. So hot right now. Copper.
>>107060838f1-8x v2?
>>107060692if you got the 50MR version that's a +/-50A chip. so it has 20mV/A sensitivity. gotta push 5A through it so you measure 100mV. use like a car headlight filament bulb with 12V, those are like 65W or something. >>107060846why not tungsten?
>>107060872Geon only. No one else stacks multiple copper bricks like that.>>107061036There's always a next time.
>>107055527>namefag>(X) are for trannies>(Y) is trash because of {missing explanation}>continues to be obsessed with trannies>refuses to elaborate further>leaves to get raped by tranny cocks
>/mtfg/ edition
I like the Sonja HC but the stems are really not QC-certified. Some of my switches just won't hold the keycaps snugly in place. A few of these bad ones are something else, the keycap just slides all across the visible stem cross with absolutely zero pressure. Just slides down like a stripper.
>>107062103What kind of key caps are you using?
>>107062521GMK
Wow
Oof
>>107060846>here I why I stack copper instead of gold
>>107060551Yes anon, it means your phone will litterally read your keyboards RF radiation, in pic related they didn't even need that, the accelerometer on your phone can read your keystrokes.Watch this video on keyboard vulnerabilites. Your USB cable is readable with phone hacks, and inexpensive radio antennas by up to 30 meters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeNBWILSlC4
>>107060313>*she
>>107061036t-t-y 200iq anon I might try digging up that tmr sensor and giving it another shot
>>107064383lying faggot. they did it in 2008 with ps/2 and usb cabled keyboards. ucb-c was introduced in 2014, and it's shielded. and they could "theoretically" do it from 20m.you are implying they can do it on usb-c keyboards from another building or some shit, which is nonsense.brainlets should be allowed access to information, they fuck up the conclusions
>>107064464>brainlets should be allowed access to information, they fuck up the conclusions*shouldn't
>>107064464THEY LITTERALLY DO A USB CABLE IN THIS VIDEO fdjuoisafhndkjsalhfbkjdsalhbfdksabhfgckjdsaalgbfhjksdalgbfhjsdakbfhdsajk
>>107064480THEY DID IT WITH A FUCKING MICROPHONE YOU MEGATURD, not radio emissions from the fucking cable.and even if they can do it on cable, they can on older micro-usb or shit cables that are no removable, even if USB. they are not USB-C. USB-C has differential pairs motherfucker, and they are fucking shielded
Nope, he. Always sad when shitposting retards just resort to ironic shitposting when they get BTFO, but I get it, it must be embarrassing as fuck self owning yourself so hard, like showing you have troon pics saved on your device after crying about troons and GODsize keyboards earlier.GODsize KINGS stay winning and also stay living rent free in subhuman's brains, as always!
>>107065019Wilco!
>>107065019everybody knows 75% is the best format, by far. but I'd get a separate numpad
>>107065019nice retro tranny board
Why don't more manufacturers try 7 (8) row compact (15U wide) tenkeyless layouts?They don't actually need to make the F-row retarded 0.75U if they move normal 1U delete above F12.
I want haptics in my physical keyboard.
>>107065599same
>>107065599I put rumbles motors on my keyboard, so that it would rumble when I took damage in WoW. But it was very disorienting. My hand would have a hard time figuring out where WASD was
>>107065902nta but I'd like one under each switch. something like this seems like it would fit:https://youtu.be/3neZaqT3vFAI think you drive these with basically audio so you'd need like 80 something channels amp for them. would be cool tho
i paid about £30 for a g915. it's my first mechanical keyboard. sure it's better than what i had before, but i'd be incredibly annoyed if i had paid even close to full price for this thing.>entire keyboard is bowed and doesn't lay flat>horrible pinging from keys occasionally>one of the numpad keys occsionally double-presses>coating on certain keys beginning to chip offwhat other mechnical keyboard brands are basically scams so i know to avoid them in the future
>>107065967>i paid about £30you could get a new one on aliexpress for those moneys
>>107065353*80%fixed
>>107066174I was thinking about that format but 75% makes it smaller, and gives up two keys. one if you get a key instead of knob. 80% -> 75% is quite smaller for not much loss in keys.
Yep, he's still mad.>>107065353Nope>but I'd get a separate numpadthough you aren't irredeemable, at least.
>>107066304actually you do lose print screen pause and scroll lock but only print screen counts as a key
>>10706634380% boards just look and feel better. The uncut right shift key and the space between the arrows, mods and f row are all worth it over a 75%.
Once you force yourself to use a 75% you'll end up wanting a trannyboard like all the 65% retards who fellate Thermal and Kohaku.
>>107065985i thought i was getting a deal tb h.is this thing any better than one of those sub 50 chinkboards? like i said, i've never had another one so i've got nothing to compare with.tb h i dislike thinking about this keyboard stuff. i'll probably keep using this despite my greivances, but should i just get one of those topre things eventually and never think about switch types ever again?
how would you arrange mappings such that ctrl+win+arrows do not involve more that 2 secs to achieve? I find it hard to not have at least 4 keys pressed at the same time assuming an additional layer is needed, I make heavy use of workspaces in both win and linux so I don't think i can easily achieve it on this type of meme keyboard, any thoughts?
>>107066566https://docs.qmk.fm/features/tap_dance
>>107066439Just get a Rainy75 and don't come back.
>>107066637t bh if you recommend trash to me it's more likely that i'm going to come backi'd prefer not to come backi'd like to filter this general ideally and just use one keyboard for a decade
What are some decent cheap silent switches for a work environment? I use gateron browns at home. I'm not a fan of linears and dislike any tactiles heavier than browns. I don't mind stronger tactility as long as it's not too prominent. I'd just buy silent gaterons but I'm too cheap to fill an already cheap keyboard with them. Outemu has a bunch of cheap silents and idk if they're any good.
>>107066670Getting a topre keyboard while not giving a shit about keyboards is like buying a graphics card while all you do is browse the internet. The rainy75 is the King of "I don't give a shit about keyboards rec me a good board"
>>107066932Just buy O ring dampeners, they generally work really well with gateron browns to make them less noisy
>>107066395>>107066434For me it's that blend between 75% and TKL where you have a 2x3 nav cluster. You still keep a stabilized right shift, less space goes to waste, you only lose one irrelevant key like pause, page up/page down are more accessible from arrows and the space lost on R4 is just an excuse to use a 6U spacebar which actually gets you closer to some symmetry instead of right hand modifiers being way too far over from where your right hand actually rests on home row.I think that's objectively better than TKL and 75%. The only complaint I can see against it is some people might not aesthetically like arrows being vertically offset by something like 0.25U compared to the rest of the board.
>>107066932>dislike any tactiles heavier than browns>I don't mind stronger tactility as long as it's not too prominenthuh? browns are basically linears
>>107066932Outemu Lime V3 Silent
Thikky thokkk skateboard trikkky rokkkkk bros why are people abandoning our clicky clock for silent switches.....?
>>107068001Silent thocks so good tho
>>107066932>I'm too cheap to fill an already cheap keyboard with themAny idea you have about "an $x keyboard should have $ax switches and $bx keycaps" is an arbitrary mental barrier to making the keyboard you want. You can put $150 keycaps and $60 switches on a $40 keyboard. There's no rule that says you can't.
>>107063255>>107063262These both MTNU? Post pics of them on a board bro.
>>107068001Because non-buckling spring clicky switches suck.
>>107065019case?
Are Cherry MX Silent Red switches still any good or are there better, cheaper options now? Thinking of replacing my old scratchy red board with them, unless I should just lube them instead.
>>107068893Gateron gecko or lichicx silent linears are both much smoother & quieter silent linears. The bottom out is also less mushy on those two than a typical silent linear. I'm sure there are other good switches that I'm leaving out too.
I just saw a number pad and it made me want to light a homeless man on fire
>>107059912What's the name of the bottom left keyboard?
>>107069177https://github.com/coseyfannitutti/discipline
>>107068893Silent linears can be scratchy. Avoid Lichix for example (if you care about that)
>>107069630The lichicx lucy's I tried didn't feel scratchy, are the regular ones really that different?
>>107068883It's not a case for the MX platform of switches, if that's what you were hoping for. It's a reproduction of the IBM Model F keyboards in the style of the Model M's case. Specifically a 122 key.
>>107069654I don't know, I only have the raw silent tactiles. And I've heard people say they don't like the scratch on the Lucy.
>>107068001What's a thock anywayall I know is clack and clack sucksI want something special
>>107068893>>107068907Lichicx is dead. Their successor is called WEKT and is making Lucy V5 switches, which are available on AliExpress and unikeyboards
>>107070710Got a link to the ali listing? I'm not seeing them by just searching 'wekt lucy'.
>>107068907But I want the mushy bottom out. I fucking hate the hard plastic on plastic feel.
>>107070710Sounds like cope to me.
>>107070843>mushy bottom outthat is just so gay manno wonder this hobby is a a troon magnet
>>107070843Less mushy is the key phrase here. It's not as hard as a non-silenced switch, but it's also not as soft as silent alpacas or cherry's silents.
>>107070865Hm, I guess they might be worth a try then. The number one reason I went for silent reds wasn't even the reduced sound but just that I hate the hard clack of most mechanical switches.
>i am tranny>you need to get your head checkedLmao. Rope.
Cheapest 100% ansi boards with gateron red switches?
>>107071076Idk man
Hell. Yeah.
>>107071076Just buy a 100% red dragon board and put gateron reds in it
>>107070904Bro I said that 2 days ago you can stop seething now
Why is Hipyo tech so freakin awesomesauce?
>>107072640>this switch *who I am not sponsored by* sounds bad, ew!!>this switch *who I am sponsored by* sounds good, yay!
>>107070846they bought the Lichicx molds>>107070799aliexpress.com/item/1005009948856370.htmllooks like they're sold out, they're still available here and from some other vendors:https://unikeyboards.com/products/wekt-lucy-r5-silent-linear-switch-factory-lubed-10pcs
>>107069296Remember before model m became 300 dollars, when keyboards were open source projects with an a community that loved helping people invent crazy keyboards
>>107071076Seconding this but with via compatibility I don't want my board to vender locked to windows
>>107073157Now this gets expensive, your best bet is a ZMX, GMK104 barebones
>>107073183>GMK104 barebonesWhat the fuck, I feel like an idiot for already going through 2 off the shelf keyboards that are twice the price of this now. I could have bought this, switches, and keycaps separately and it would add up to around the same.
>>107073157Keychron V6 Max with Gateron Jupiter Reds is ~$100
ABS shine is only bad if you don't treat your keycaps well. I use a normal big sized brush to wipe off visible dust a few times an hour. I wipe it down with 70% isopropyl alcohol and a microfiber cloth (I use the Zeiss eyeglass cleaning cloth because I know that won't ever accidentally rub too hard). I do this once every hour on my keyboard. Dust and gunk can get abrasive so brush and wipe that shit down NON STOP
>>107073438I'd probably recommend getting a keychron K or V instead of that one, Zouya is pretty sketchy in my experience
>>107073562I just don't like that ABS feels sticky and slippery sometimesAt other times though I do like how soft and not sharp it feels, it has a comfy factor in a way
Also, Strawberry Cheesecake R2 > Gateron Melodics. Any day of the week.
>>107073562>a few times an hourNot doing that. Once a day is fine.
>>107073695Why are you comparing regular tactiles to a click leaf clicky?
>>107073573>
anyone finna cop?I'm thinking the split spacebar is good for using middle key thumb button for different layers? Never used these cucked keyboards thoughthoughts and opinions? might aswell cop the GOAT
>>107074093nta, but are you retarded?
>>107074175It makes me sick seeing someone suggest a KEYCHRON over a custom keyboard in a mechanical keyboards general. If having the integrity and spirit of a mechanical keyboards enthusiast makes me retarded, then I'm retarded.
>>107074216ok so you are retarded
>>107074059I dunno, lol!
>>107074144Go for it queerget that big black plastic in yafuck yeah
>>107074295Yes
>>107070073https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Yy-HePDv4P4
>>107074313SBCsmallblackceyboard
>>107073053>invent crazy keyboardsWhen? I just remember people making shit like in your pic and stuffing it full of foam and gay shit to make them sound the same as any other muted keyboard since forever.Part of that is probably people getting hung up on MX style switches when the patent expired, but the fact still remains that's all this hobby has been about, especially when influencer homos took over after smelling blood in the water. When is the last time someone actually invented a different keyboard with different switches, or at least had something interesting about it tech wise, instead of making some gay novelty case with tranny colors or that's shaped like some object like cheese, but has no functionality to it?No one has "invented" anything in this space for years, it's all just worse iterations stuck in a small, shitty footprint. Now it's becoming even more restrictive with the HE mania, I wouldn't be surprised if it devolves further into silent analog linear boards being the only thing retards produce anymore. Then that'll be replaced by some other gamer tranny snake oil, to further enshittify.
>>107074699There's nothing to invent short of 1% solutions like $100k stabs which you won't give a fuck about if you just get good ones and lube em up. Keyboards today are in a better place than they have ever been before. Every frontier has been explored and commercialised without cutting corners.
Ho ho ho! No more flex-cut nonsense with the Transition Lite!
Stock plate is terrible anyway. Time to explore custom options. I'm excited to try out different switches and how they'll feel and sound in a foamless polycarbonate case.
Coom
>>107075525Im happy for you anon
>melodics are literally tranny colors: the switchblue stars it is
>>107076203You're gonna put keycaps on that'll hide the switch anyway, who cares.
>>107076203Dang they sound perfect for a full size keeb
>>107076449Box Whites got them beat.
>>107076649I know its kinda haram, but i really like Glorious pandas for full size boards >_>
any half decent wireless numpads w/ hotswap? under like 80usd if possible
>>1070768108bitdo if you like the design.
>>107076810weikav stars21 if you like aluminum
I understand the idea of trying different layouts and flavors of keyboards, some with numpads, some without, whatever.I will never understand the point of buying a keyboard without a numpad and then buying a standalone numpad to get that functionality back.
>>107078045The numpad is a depreciated fossil, it doesn't make sense for it to exist on keyboards anymore. Especially in the place it is in. The optimal position for a numpad is to the right if your mouse, or on the left side of your keyboard if you must have it on your keyboard.
>>107078045you can put it in whatever position you like and off to the side if you don't need it
>>107078221It's easier for data entry and some software is designed for it. I can see why someone might want it.
>>107078221No one cares what larping troons think.
>>107078221True but they are fun to mess with
>>107074144>HEold and busted get the womier sk75 tmr for gaymer shit
>you need the NEW snake oil instead of the OLD one
>>107078221>depreciated
>>107055527a retard AND a faggot, here's your (You)
>>107059360spring weight? travel distance? housing material? there's plenty of variety in linear switches lil bro
>>107079221Please understand this just sounds really funny to people who enjoy tactiles and clickies, which are a lot more different from one switch to another
>>107059727there's monsgeek m5 as well, not super high quality but probably better than zuoya... no knob though
>>107066434nah, that looks kinda bad with arrows next to shift. I like the offset to right and lower, same as the three keys column on the edge.>>107066395don't really care about that shift. left one is more important. for length. TKL would be 2nd best, 75% is sweetspot for me
>>107073562>I use a normal big sized brush to wipe off visible dust a few times an hour. I wipe it down with 70% isopropyl alcohol and a microfiber clothimagine having this issue
>>107074216this is the most retarded type of elitism. it's not even proper, it's just a peasant who saw something nice and now he's acting snobish lolkeychrons can be nice, not all of them, but some have a bunch of shit already, isolation, upgrade-ability, and most of all, especially for HE, proper software.plus going hog into some custom shit means you will not properly appreciate...whatever the fuck they do differently.it's actually better to recommend some average shit for beginners, so they get to know what they want and what they don't want. makes the custom purchase in the future that much more enjoyable.you're just a mindless consoomer
>>107074699>No one has "invented" anything in this space for years, it's all just worse iterations stuck in a small, shitty footprint. Now it's becoming even more restrictive with the HE mania, I wouldn't be surprised if it devolves further into silent analog linear boards being the only thing retards produce anymore.analog keybs can have electric switches sockets as well, with tmr at least.>No one has "invented" anything in this space for yearsdunno, analog stuff seems nice. what exactly are you expecting them invent? for example I'd like haptic feedback on each key
>>107078879you people are crazy. none of you can tell the difference between he and tmr in any game.
reposting from /csg/anyone got a monsgeek m1 v5? anything i should know or do when i buy it?my local retailers only have linear switches so ill have to learn how to use them(they cost as much as barebones which is pretty cheap)i have gateron browns from my old keychron v1 and im looking forward to put them probably on the modifiers or the main 68 keys
>>107079649oh btw this DOES have VIA right? its the only reason im skipping the aula f75
>>107079649>anyone got a monsgeek m1 v5? anything i should know or do when i buy it?I recommended it to a guy once and he posted a few days later saying the board was DOA and I felt kinda shitty about recommending a brand I had not personally owned.
>>107079724>damnthe online seller that provides the keyboard is kinda accessible to me, i'll just show them the receipt if shit goes southi appreciate the honesty
>>107079460>seems niceFrom marketing, but in reality it's mediocre at best if you're being generous. Analog input on sticks is a billion, billion, billion times more accurate and useful than keyboard keys, which have far shorter throws than any controller sticks, and only 8 possible movement directions from WASD. You have the "full circle" of inputs on sticks, which in practice on modern games give you full 360 degree range of movement, compared to only 8 angles on keys.>what exactly are you expecting them inventJust fucking trying anything, literally anything else, besides more gaymer snake oil that is already oversaturated like analog shit is. We already hit the autism limit with 1000hz boards. 500hz were already gratuitous for human reaction time. Adjustable actuation is an overhyped joke and will maybe, at best, give you a one frame advantage in one match out of 100 years of playing the same game, on the same map, in the same conditions, etc.Different switch footprints, different methods of generating tactility, an actual serious attempt at full modularity. Even shit like VIA could see a multitude of improvements. Make it so that it can actually match shitty gamer software capabilities from 15 years ago, it STILL can't easily do macros repeating while a key is held, for example. These are all avenues waiting to be explored, instead of the newest e-celeb shill fad over MUH MAGNETS. Way more important at that. Issues which actually have real world benefits, instead of human centipede-esque asshole sniffing cope from shitters that need to git gud or play casual games, because it isn't your hardware if you're playing on a 1000+hz keyboard and mouse of any make, unless you are using the most chinesium of chinesium implements to ever chinesium. If your keyboard and mouse aren't screaming "YOH BROOTOOF DEBICE IS LEDDY TO PALE", then you are already on the same playing field as 99.999999% of players in your game.TL;DR: anything but magnet obsessed autism, please.
>>107079888>and only 8 possible movement directions from WASD. You have the "full circle" of inputs on sticks, which in practice on modern games give you full 360 degree range of movement, compared to only 8 angles on keys.these are the people saying HE is meh. look at this fool's confidence saying itsee picrel you brainlet? those are two actuators on each joystick, they can go one way or the other. in total you get movement in one of the two directions for each of them. which is the exact equivalent of using 4 analog keys. there's nothing more or less, it's the exact same thing, minus the extra control you get with a joystick, obviously.my point is...most of you talking shit about he/tmr/analog sensors are pseud incompetent brainlets who can't tell your asses from your mouths. holy shit>Just fucking trying anything, literally anything else, besides more gaymer snake oil that is already oversaturated like analog shit is.what you dumbfuck consoomer, what? you want something new? you wanna be wooed? you entitled moron. you have no fucking clue about anything, you're just going by consoom instinct. you do not even fucking understand the tech you're shit talking lol>These are all avenues waiting to be exploredI bet your mom is waiting to be explored
>>107080091Four keys are more precise than two keys. Joysticks are trash for anything. You want controlled movement you go UDLR or WASD
Does anyone know where to get cylindrical low profile keycaps, like the ones Logitech uses on their low profile models? Not the XVX profile that's more spherical, I have them and hate them.I did find replacement kits to a low profile Corsair model, but I'd like to know if there are other options I've missed.
Why the fuck did I not wait until yesterday for the sale and order this keycap set instead? Holy shit I got buyers remorse now.
>>107057068Recently got a Royal Kludge L98 for 30% off, it's nice. I use the left numpad for WM navigation, not so much for data entry.
which of these 2 do u guys prefer?
>>107081333The bottom one
>>107081093oh shit, there you areI must ask you several questions about the L98>does their official webservice work on linux?>is the config persistent across disconnects, connection modes, and turning off?>can you remap FN in any way?>can you change the screen to display local time (or anything else)?I've heard that the S98 screen let you stick .gifs in it, but not the smaller L98 screenshame it also doesn't support QMK
>>107079888Anon your argument is kinda bizarre o_oIn tons of games joystick games, there are parts people purposely use keyboards because a keyboard's input is more precise than a joysticks. Adding analog capabilities to keyboards isn't "snake oil" because for the games that support it, it radically changes gameplay for the better. This isn't even mentioning the real productivity / gaming advantage, actuation points add.
>>107081025So you didn't really want it in the first place.
>TKD left out the entire foam kit by mistakeThey said they'd get back in a few days. At worst, I'll have to settle for Poron switch pads. Good thing this baby sounds and feels good without foam, if need be.
>>107079221Holy crap, you made your straight line 1/10th of a milimeter longer and added a few microgran bumps to the force curve
anyone thought it would be cool to have that controller rumble/motor vibration in the analog keyboard?
>>107082027I've done this before, I can dig out the setup and show you if you care.But it doesn't work, it makes your keyboard finger placement lose track all the time
>>107082065I have a small haptic engine from an older iphone, I can drive it easily but I figured I should test it and see if it's enough. I don't want something like thishttps://youtu.be/fxmLD8y0RNQ?t=33just some feedback
>>107055527
i wonder how horrible this profile is to type on
>>107082120I used an array of 6 cell phone rumble motors taped to the sides of a 60% keyboard. Maybe you can figure out something more subtle. Its a fun project, worth a shot
>>107082065did you use the actual controller motors? those are large, they cannot fit inside the keyboard
tranny makes money while you gotta wait every paycheck CRACKER
>>107082201ah, ye that's what I had in mind, but I can install them instead of the battery, they should fit just fine. I also noticed QMK has support for it, so gotta find some free GPIO and build something to drive themgot any photo of the size? not sure how many would be required. I only have the one from picrel
>first time using a hotswap board>first swap>manage to somehow break the key it doesn't work anymore even with the original switch or othersfuck my sad incel unlucky so called LIFE
>>107082999
I need a wrist rest
>>107055527very true and fact checked by real keyboard users
>>107080091>>107081703>pseud retards completely missing the pointOf course. One of you is obviously ESL, which at least explains some of it, but holy shit.Anyway, once again: the only advantage keyboards have over sticks is being able to swap movement directions faster, that's it.HE/any other analog input on keyboards is SHIT because WASD and its combinations cannot, and will not, ever match the full range of movement sticks have. It's literally just how they're physically designed. Please, by all means though, continue conveniently ignoring that fact alone, and pretending like WASD is somehow comparable to 360 degree movement.Sticks have a longer distance than the longest travel distance analog switches available have to move, too, and have less of a gradient of fine inputs to register from as a result. You know, the throw? Do you even know these terms? Probably not, because you're retards looking for dunks instead of trying to discuss things.Here, even AI knows better than you. Surprise! The average sticks have ~2-2.5x+ more travel distance than any currently available key switch, in a full 360 degree range of movement, too! I'm probably wasting my breath on retards that don't know simple terms regularly used in this space, though.>minus the extra control you get with a joystick, obviouslyThat's exactly what I said, you HE bootlicking faggot. You were so desperate for an own here that you just repeated me verbatim and shot yourself in the foot in the process.>buzzword buzzword buzzword and more faggot babblingI think someone feels buyer's remorse over being duped into HE/other gaymer snake oil memes, and it's quite unsightly, as it always is.
>>107081703And you, more specifically>In tons of games joystick games, there are parts people purposely use keyboards because a keyboard's input is more precise than a joysticksThis was always the case before HE and other analog key switches took off in popularity in the last 2 years.> Adding analog capabilities to keyboards isn't "snake oil" because for the games that support it, it radically changes gameplay for the better.It literally doesn't, because the only benefit of analog key switches over normal key switches is gradual movement changes, which sticks already do 10000000000000000000000000000x better, as they also have the 360 degree range of movement. Driving, sneaking, etc., all better on sticks than key switches.>This isn't even mentioning the real productivity / gaming advantage, actuation points add.Having to hover your fingers over the key so you don't mis-actuate it when it's set to 0.1mm actuation actually fucks over any productivity and "gaming advantage". Go ahead and simply rest your fingers on even heavy spring analog switches when you do this and you'll see you input keys when you don't mean to very often.In gaming, too, the amount of time it takes your finger to travel 0.1mm and 1.5-2mm is on the order of fractions of a second, so small that it exceeds any conscious human reaction + motor skill response.Basically, it's snake oil shit if you have even a middle school level understanding of physics. Seriously, go do a clicks/keys per second test online, you'll easily get 8-14 per second if you aren't decrepit.Now think about the time it takes your finger to move up and then the time it takes your finger to go down after dividing a second by that number, for each press. This homework is due by tonight and it WILL be on the test.
>>107081806>putting foam in a full sizeWhat the fuck is your problem?
>>107083880Kek you ultra nigger I use 20g clears because my fingers are literally that precise. I have no problem with actuation points and use them liberally. I dont even want to engage with your nigger post because it insulting to humanity Eg, you are a stupid nigger who is to stupid to delicately press a fucking key
>>107084238The foam kit includes the PE sheet and I need that and the super-thin case foam they give, at the least. The plate foam is non-essential but they said they'd ship all the missing stuff in a week so it's cool.
>>107083102It didn't feel like I did that, do you think that's what did it? Forcing a switch in when there was resistance?
>Cherry Love>Monochrome DolchGMKsisters, we're eating good next year.
>>107084261gayest shit I've read in a while
>>107084256nta but you are a disgusting little faggot
>>107084256actuate my cock with your mouth
Fuck off tranime queersif you must be a homo in this general, be gay for GMK.
COOM
OOOOOO
>>107085580>>107085651>>107086150i am sick of cherry profile
>>107085580>>107085651>>107086150for me, it's dye sublimated PBT keycaps by Mr. Xiami
Would you like beheaded keycaps?
>>107084256>no-discussion having shitposter is a literal trannyBaffling to no one here. Also still doesn't change the fact you have buyer's remorse from being scammed into HE/analog shit and are dumping that trauma onto everyone else ITT. Cope and seethe more, why don't ya?Concession accepted. HE/TMR/other analog slop is snake oil confirmed forever.
>>107087049Mr. Xiami? Sounds fucking good bro srs
>>107087906Actually I own optical analog switches for my gaming setup, please continue being wrong about everything like the loser you are (and seriously im not arguing with a nigger who is incapable of lightly pressing a keycap)
>PP plate>lubed POM switches (sea salt smoothie)>ePBT Hellas (these are incredibly soft to the touch, much softer than other PBT keycaps I own)holy fuck my fingers have not felt this good across a keyboard, ever.
>>107055527DIY split fag trvth nvke
>>107088100>actually I fell for the meme a little earlier + am retarded and can't readWe know, trannybro.>muh lightly pressThe time you take to consciously do so by restraining your motor functions already nullifies any "benefit" adjustable actuation has. You lost.
