Jap-Fi EditionHow to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Papers, etc.):https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/>/iemg/'s Blog/Wiki (Archive, Music Editorial, etc.):https://4ciemg.github.io/IEMGazette/>Frequency Response Graph Toolsquig.link>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• Tripowin Ruta10 (Mild V) - $18• Tanchjim Bunny DSP (Mild U) - $22• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22• EPZ Q1 Pro (V-shape) - $35>Bullet IEMs:• Tanchjim ONE DSP (5 Presets/5-Band PEQ) - $28• Etymotic ER2XR (Neutral) - $140>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) $18• Tanchjim Stargate II (8-Band PEQ) - $38• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110>PMPs:• HiBy R1 - $85• HiBy M300 - $200>AVOID USING:• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver posPrevious Thread: >>107058834
I don't EQ because that's gay. I appreciate IEM for what they are. If they're shit, they're shit and don't belong in my collection.
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>>107078030then you don't own any iem because they're all shit without eq
>>107078030Trvke, fuck tanchjim oregano, worst iem of my life
was this the most lukewarm year in terms of pos? nothing remarkable that i remember
>>107078102i think last year was really the last time we saw a big shift in terms of tuning philosophythere's nothing left to really improve on imo, even the last holy grails we wanted (dsp, modularity, decent tuning) are available on many posiems have peaked
>>107078040You're just deaf :)
Favorite and most hated pos (that you own)?
>>107078117now tell me what iems you own and ill tell you why they're shit
>>107078132the same could be done for you, fuckin delinquent.
>>107078142keep avoiding the question and enjoy your substandard iems then buddy
>>107078148>keep avoidingnta, I literally just got here from taking a shit.
>>107078131Final E500, least favorite IEM that still gets recommended sometimes. Just muddy af, no detail.
this poster is legally deaf >>107078030
>>107077996That's a badass design, name and price??
>>107078546Bnuy >:3
I'm bored with IEMs. After I was scammed by Ziigaat/Linsoul I realized nothing can top the Fiio FH3s. And those aren't even that amazing.
>>107078905Basically, there is physics at play. IEMs sound pretty good but they can never compete with speakers, even cheap ones in an untreated room.
>likes low pinna no treble pos>buys doscincos because of gpt>claims he was scammednot even annoying at all, just pure untethered retardation for the fun of it, respect
>>107078910Simply EQ to the endgame speaker target and enjoy endgame speaker sound from any pos.
>>107078910why do you lie anon?
>>107078910>even cheap ones in an untreated roomdelusions
>>107079111>>107079420>>107079482Sounds in your head vs doesn't sound in your head. There is simply no competition.
>>107079573>Sounds in your head vs doesn't sound in your head. There is simply no competition.this really is not a big dealIEMs never sounded too much inside my head anyway. they sound kinda close but not too muchIEM response being smooth as fuck and subbass are much better than whatever the fuck going on with cheap speakers in untreated room
Anyone heard of those? Looks interesting, at least.
>>107079746huh doesn't look bad
>>107078905Obsoleted by fox IEM.
Thinking of what to get on 11.11, is SuperMix 4 really that good or is it overhyped?
>>107079884you can get past the whole subjective part of good, overrated, underrated, etc by looking at measurements
>>107079889>squiggly lines say everythingNo, no they don't
>>107079941they'll say more than anything else you can find or do except for trying them yourself
>>107079884define goodsm4 has harman ie 2019 tuning (maybe not as bright)it means that if you have a normal fit they will have thin scooped mids and bright treble boosted by your length modes (around 6-8k Hz)it's not exactly bad IEM for a lot of reasons but I dunno if it can be recommended unless you will be using something like triple falange eartips or foam....I'd just wait for daybreak to go on sale and get them(even if you have abnormally deep fit sm4 won't fit your HRTF lol 711 2019 IE tuning is really misguided...)
>>107078910They wont like this post but I agree, I only ever listen to iems reclutantly, if its too late at night or whatever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VdQ_1b1QT4PEQdB is now recognized. Sharur won.
Any anon using Jcally JM6 non pro? I'm worried about hissing noise and build quality issues.
>>107080144>has speakers he can EQ to>doesn't do itwhat do you call this behavior?
>>107080225He spoke to 3 boomers in the university he pays to attend, groundbreaking
>>107079746>>107079798but then again are they really worth buying when instead you can just get another edc pro and EQ them a bit?
>>107079646even a cheap on ear headphone is better than any IEM claustrophobic sound.>>107079111cant eq out dildo penetrationIEMs are just for the consoomist colectors that like to look at all the diferent colors and design and take pictures of them WHILE NOT LISTENING TO MUSIC AT ALL.
>>107080466Headphones still sound in your head and have no redeeming qualities whatosever.
>>107080466>even a cheap on ear headphone is better than any IEM claustrophobic sound.again... false
>>107080466what with retarded low IQ takes? you might unironically be deaf
>>107080478>Headphones still sound in your headbut are not even close to being claustrophobic with IEM being already literally and physically INSIDE your head with not space whatsover. people try to eq that out trhough software but thats just cope since its a physycal limitation. IEM are made for musicians and produecer to work. They are not made to enjoy music.>>107080510cope>>107080524and you are unironically raped
>>107080573lil bro you were right about the speakers part but you fumbled it by saying headpos are any good
>>107080573No, headphones also literally sound in your head, even openbacks. It's the lack of room reflections issue. Speakers in an anechoic chamber sound in your head too. But unlike IEMs headphones have unsalvageable tonality.
>>107080573>but are not even close to being claustrophobic with IEM being already literally and physically INSIDE your head with not space whatsover.and? both are DF tuned... you don't understand anything about audio lol just drop this.there was a poll on ASR about how people hear their IEMs and results differ quite a bit so this might be just YOU problem... sucks to suck I guess
>>107078546Madoo TYP930 featuring 12mm "dual motion" orthodynamic driver ( planar ) + a Knowles Spoutless BA, price is 349k yen or ~$2,265.00
any recs for something cheap with a mic suitable for work calls? wired is fine
Anyone have recs for 2-pin IEM cables that have actually decent microphones in them? Or, alternatives that would work on an Xbox config? My friend uses his IEMs with his Xbox, but the cable he got online sucks cock and picks up noise from the IEMs themselves (so teammate voices echo).
>>107080795airpods usb-c for $20 has the best mic quality, just check youtube demos
>>107080839where the hell is that shit $20? more like 200 in my countryi just wanna get something off ali
>>107080868https://a.aliexpress.com/_m0b7PV3
>>107078030not my problem
>>107080010EQing by ear says more than your hearing loss will ever allow you to. people hear with their ears, not their eyes
best IEMs for a vibe coder?
It's time to buy your $40 HE-R9.https://a.aliexpress.com/_mLcpH1j
>>107081632Wrong faceplate.
>>107081651even with no plate there's still a face
>>107081632Thanks to /k/ and their Russian hardware posts I can figure out Cyrillic.
>>107081224Ask ChatGPT during vibe coding.
>>107081614Hair loss is not worth $40.
>>107081750>xhe doesn't use a strap
>>107081729IEMs are niche, so the training lacks sufficient quality data. If you were a vibe coder, you would know.
>>107081750>muh hairline>not having long hairzoomer with a $30 haircut detected
>>107081614how come nobody is making cheap rip offs of dca and other high-end headpos considering most of them use off-the-shelf driversiems have made tremendous progress in that regard but headpos still ask premium prices for that
There HAS to be a good pmp under $100 that came out this year. Or should I wait until 2026 when these devices are forced to be easy battery replaceable.
>>107081937there's aliexpress sellers selling modern drivers, just 3d print or whittle some earcups. spoiler alert the audiophile hobby was DIY to begin with. only IEMtards are a consoooom-only hobby
>>107082019>gooddecent would be either snowsky offerings or Tempoptec variations V1 when on sale
>>107080361being normal.
>>107081937because it's not only about drivers at that point, some of them do have relatively complicated baffle designs that are not hard to replicate on a diy/individual scalethe issue with most of the trickle down effect on headpos is with manufacturing and selling. much harder than iems in that aspect
>>107081937The real answer is nobody cares about headphones.
I'm looking to test IEMs for practicing music at home. I play the bass and recently moved into a place where the walls are paper so I can't really play in the evenings anymore. I get a horrible rash on my temples from using headphones so I thought this could be a way to solve my problem and since I'm using a Scarlett, I can't have any wireless solution.I want something where I can actually hear the frequencies I'm playing so preferrably something with decent bass. I don't really have any reference to IEMs, but as far as headphones the K271 for example are way too neutral in the bass for me.Budget something below or about 50 bucks and I'll be ordering from Ali.
>>107082628KZ EDC Pro can be had for $0-5. start with that
>>107080361Lack of autism.
i fell for the memethe valley is really fucking bad uneqable
>>107082652>>107082628scarlett has high noise floor on lower volume it's 4Vrms, unusable with IEMsEDC pro is ok but you need to EQ it and the cable is kind of ass, also tips are ass
>>107082790this is so ass EDC pro might legit be better
>we still got retards looking at treble on graphsuseless fucking eq guide, remove it from op immediately
>>107082628>>107082801KBear KB01 has low sensitivity with good bass. I can't hear hiss from BT adapters in which would hiss on KZ single DDs. It does have some ringing echoes if you hit the shell though, if that ever matters, since you wouldn't tap on the shell normally during listening sessions.
>>107082894every iem has high sensitivity you'd need a special cable
>>107082790do you actually hear it?
>>107082900Not true, I need to increase the volume to hear the same loudness on a KB01 than on a KZ single DD set. Hybrid sets also have varying sensitivities, I have a pair that's incredibly loud and hissy (GS AUDIO GD7B) but at the same volume Kara or Explorer sound much quieter with inaudible hiss.
>>107082997i eq by ear>>107083004relatively you ape
>>107082628>>107082894Sorry about the mistake, it's KB02 that rings when tapped. I have the KB02, no idea about the KB01.
>>107083035Then why do you need to nitpick my comment? There are IEMs with lower sensitivity relative to other IEMs, and that's what anon needed to know.
>>107083060not low enough for it not to be noisy on scarlett because it's fucking 4Vrms
>>107081937Because headphones take actual effort to manufacture instead of the e-waste the browns here buy to cope with their poverty
>>107083073Then perhaps someone recc him a KZ planar, if anyone knows how it behaves on high noise floor source, I don't have any planar sets to comment on that.
>>107083073nta, but Kara- 115dB/Vrms and Explorer- 108dB/mWthese will pick up noise floor across source regardless.
I already have two sets of Chuzo-approved eartips: Sancai Wide Bore and Fiio HS20. The missing one in my collection is the one Chuzo shilled the most: Feaulle H570. Is it any good? Worth it?
>>107083103lol it's a fucking assembly line like everything else. only electrostatics need individual tuning
>>107082890eq guide should be kept in op in the event someone might read it. also this thread has bias cuz no reason to continue posting here if you're fixing the ear rape without relying on a 3rd party.
>>107083106 see >>107080965this will exterminate any hiss; just wire it into speaker/power amp terminals. I suggested this before and I'm not joking
also PR2 treble isn't even especially bad relative to other IEMs after you amp them and/or bass boost. you get the full ear rape when you underpower them
>>107083809You are deaf.
>>107083809PR2 surprisingly smooth.>>107083854you don't own one and have never heard a PR2, congrats. you contributed nothing.
>>107083864Increasing the volume exponentially increases hearing damage, even if you think you hear less treble due to equal loudness contours. This is my contribution.
>>107083915what range of frequencies you talking about? which iteration PR2?
>>1070839342kHz+. Every iteration.
>>107080328Me. Been using it for 6 months. No QC issues. Meanwhile a Moondrop DAC I got died after two weeks. This one is going strong. Less than 50mAh battery draw, unnoticeable.I don't hear any hissing. There's audible hissing for exactly 500ms after plugging them in and then it stops.I use this more than the JM20 only due to the low power usage.
>>107083951yeah, you never heard one.
>>107084123I'm sorry I wasn't here when you needed me the most.
>>107084208nice deflection. I accept your concession.
>>107083915nobody mentioned increasing the volume you schizophrenic retard. look at the sensitivity instead of fapping to your shit charts.>inb4 someone posts another 6 charts of an IEM that isn't the PR2v3 while claiming they "won"
BLOOD RACK, BARBED WIRE, POLITICIANS' FUNERAL PYRE, INNOCENTS RAPED WITH NAPALM FIRE21ST CENTURY SCHIZOID MAN
>>107084293Fake news >>107083809>look at the sensitivityNeeds 10dB more than an average IEM, so about 10mW for normal people.
imagine dedicating yourself to studying the most recent audio science and spreading knowledge in links, paragraps and charts only to be destroyed by a normgroid on his iphone posting about his KZ
Just EQ'd my 2004 airplane buds and now they sound like $20000 endgame pos
>>107084427Imagine being deaf.
>>107084404>so about 10mWliterally everybody who's tested it on multiple sources admit that more juice makes them sing.10mW can't cut it.
>>107084434You are retarded.
>get ear rape pos>boost the volume to increase the bass and make it less ear rapey>become deafDon't repeat their mistake.
>>107084443>94db/mW @ 15ohms for PR2vs.>108db/mw @ 23 ohms for EDC PROyou simply don't understand pos sensitivity and ratings. any pos can get to a desired volume, so your image says nothing other than basic SPL/hearing damage. I wish you were making a point here but you ain't
>>107084470edc pro needs less than 1mW.
>>107084474considering it being your basic cheap 1DD with no other drivers or crossovers to complicate things, your sentiment is right, but still kinda wrong. they rate the pos for what's acceptable BEFORE distortion, not simply how good your source will sound up until certain levels. 23 ohms is a little lower than average for pos of that type, but 108db, nobody is saying it's hard to drive, or even that it 'scales' up. it's basic, but less than 1mW? I haven't ran it through the pos power calculator, though
you can power the pr2 with the apple dongle just fine
>>107084517Distortion is completely unrelated to how pos sensitivity is rated. It is literally in the name - 1mW of power produces 94dB. Of course music is not always at max power, there is crest factor and dynamic range, so 20dB on top of your listening level is a reasonable estimate. With pr2 for 84dB listening with 20dB headroom you need mere 8mW. And don't bullshit me you're only listening to the highest dynamic range content so you "need" that 400mW dongle. You're just listening louder than 84dB.
>>107084550apple dongle lacks DAC quality
>>107084550nobody says it won't 'play'. the point is that it sounds like ass, underpowered. hell, I'll connect my PR2s to my apple dongle right now and there's a clear difference. thanks for making me whip out a KZ cable for nothin..
>>107084606perfectly transparent and enough power for the even the most high dynamic range shit tracks
>>107084611false, it powers them the same and there are no issuesyou're just bad at listening to stuff critically, no shame in that either
>>107084620I think we established this already- you don't own a PR2. I just now swapped out a DS2 for an apple dongle, so you telling me there's no difference just shows your dogma. you arguing that an apple dongle sounds the same as a Fosi DS2 won't go far, honestly. what a fucked take
>>107084644There is a difference. You are listening at the volume that makes you deaf.
>>107084644i have heard every revision of the pr2 and both the pr1 and prx on the most powerful dacs and apple donglethey sound the same, you're just bad at listening to stuff and having reliable impressions. i have tested them in informal blind tests, and the data also validates what i heari said there's no shame, you don't have to get defensive about how bad you are of a listener, stop humiliating yourself please
>>107084652yeah you're being a dumb contrarian twat at this point. called out twice for not having the pos we're talking about and you couldn't defend it. I accept your concession, though. come back when you've actually tested gear
>>107084657yeah you're full of shit. fuck off to literally anywhere else, there's enough delusion in this bitch.
>>107084673you should go to actual audio meets instead of thinking that your shitty listening skills are worth anything, maybe then you'll get some good guidance and the opportunity to do some fun experiments
>>107084665Notice how he never denied listening at deafening volume.
>>107084681>go to meets.your claim is that you heard all three PR2s at a meet? who had that setup?
>>107084665>>107084690you're samefagging, rajesh.
>again pretending that KZ matters
>>107084696my claim is that you should get out there and actually experience what others are listening toyou deluded yourself into thinking your opinion is worth anything at all, you have no clue what you're talking about so you just imitate what you read and hear online like some creepy skinwalker>your claim is that you heard all three PR2s at a meet?had the original pr2, heard the others when meeting others or them sending their units to me, same for the pr1 and prxi can confirm that they all have been vetted and identified correctly based on visual inspection and purchase dates
>>107084745I'll take that concession, mr ESL
>>107082790Unironically fox IEM doesn't have this problem.
>>107084750>the lady doth protests too much, me thinks. your personal anecdote doesn't align with the general consensus of people having had tested many pos of all sensitivities, across multiple sources. your personal anecdote is just that, an anecdote. in fact, you're purposefully being adversarial even in the face of facts. that's pure dogma. show me one (1), review, anywhere, by anybody that claims PR2 sounds the same across sources. you'd be hard pressed because it's a goddamn farce, kiddo. I have the gear here. I'm the one A/Bing till the cows come home while you sit there and conjecture. dogma, boy. the tranny taught you well.
>>107084809again, creepy skinwalker has to base his own throughts on what other skinwalkers like him are sayingi have heard, blind tested, and measured all of them with different sources, not a single differenceyou show me what you've done except listening to them while biased beyond belief
Too many words ya'll, don't want to read. Be more simple.
deafzos like this have no idea how drivers actually work >>107084550another tragic statement due to IEM users never DIYing anything and are isolated from the rest of the hobby. they tell you to consooom more despite not knowing how their products work
audiophools and graphtards are two sides of the same coin, all of their audiatory experience is derived from eyesight and not hearing
maybe hit and playzo was right
>>107084914Show me the part of the driver that does anything except increasing the SPL when you provide it more power.
>>107084944reddit and headfi reviews
Headpos law still going strong.
>>107084940No, that's how you lose hearing.
>plug shitpos (truthear gate) into laptop (macbook)>open apple music>select cool japanese music>happyit really is that simple, autistzos... try it!
>>107085005Sorry, I only listen to real japanese musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkYWccNb0-4
finnaly have my gearshit
>>107085005I did this an I got an infecttion, watch out bwos
reminder that there has been 0 kz shill pics except for ratzo
>>107084853do you usually have your thumb up your ass when doing literally anything?
>>107085035completely unrelated, try again in a few hours
>>107085005no saar, you need to read the EQ guide and tweak endlessly
>FR is only what matters>Hey, these KZ pos are dirt cheap and graph nice and smooth, amazing basic choice for EQ, must be the best earphone ever made *Autistic screeching, pouting, manic detection of some living in the head rent-free internet personalities*
>>107085176FR literally doesn't matter because EQ exists. Only the faceplate matters.
>>107085176>>107085189EDC Pro on top!
>>107085189>Bad base FR = bigger length mode variability and need for more more higher Q filters = more sensitivity to insert accuracy = worse result If only you weren't an exclusive 20$ pos EQ pagpag coper you would have known that.
Lurker here. I was using closed back DT770 and recently FiiO FT1, but I've getting tired or wearing them all day long and I find myself using more Airpods pro 2 just for the convenience. I have some 60€ KZ ZS10 Pro I got long time ago from a Optimum tech video just to try IEM's, but didn't really like them.What would be the recommendation for 150-200€/$? I've check the OP and rentry but I'm not sure how up to date they are
>>107085252>Bad base FR = bigger length mode variabilityThat's not how it works at all.
>>107085264>quoting eq guidelmao yeah let's just cite made up shit with no authors or backing.
>>107085264Thats exactly how it works, if you want to fix treble properly in a shitbud with uneven treble response you will need a fuckton of autistic sharp filters with Q > 5.00 which will move a few hundred Hz for every 0.1mm seating variability, basically rendering your preset useless.
>>107085263why are you increasing the price for no reason, price has no correlation with sound quality
>>107085294Cool fanfiction.
>>107085297? that's my budget, if there are better for lower price thats also within the budget of course
>>107085360no need to spend so much, iems have been solved and you can get excellent products for much cheaperget something cheap, anything in the op and shopping guide will dodo you know how to read FR graphs?
>>107085369there's that dogma again.
>>107085379your dogma is reddit and headfi reviews, go play with those drooling retards buddy
>>107085263KZ is controversial brand and all their models sort of sound the exact same. I mean it. Still, if you're not audioschizo, get the ZS10 Pro X or anything in the OP and just be happy.If you still want to spend more just because try EPZ P50.
>>107085297> price has no correlation with sound qualityThis is what you call pushing an agenda, if you look at the actual data in the Harman paper making this claim - the lack of significance and correlation is caused by outliers in the 1000$+ boutique dogshit boomer headphones >>107085350>posts a formula which does not apply for complex geometries, complex boundary conditions and not pure sines Oh my days
>>107085294>take even treble response>move 1mm>uneven treble response
>>107085420>my expensive pos doesn't depend on insertion depth because it just doesn't, okay?Mental illness.
>>107085420not only harman data, look at any other similar tests and you'll find the same thing over and overit's a damn cloud>>107085421so obsessed
Most racist IEM? Need something nice for when I go out every friday to bash jeet and nigger heads in.
>>107085456he's citing your Harman bible, fucktard.
>>107085471contact epz and test the waters by sending the most racist shit you can think of
>>107085480Outdated, read the EQ guide.
>>107085491Tried that but they said they only serve degenerate furfag troons and not straight white males like myself.
>>107085471> Furthermore, there were a lot of racist undertones; HBB ended the email with “F*ck you you asian monkey”. This blew up with people on both sides of the table. Any HBB collab
>>107085497no author, so there's a reason to dismiss it entirely. no citations other than a bunch of sean olive/aes non-peer-reviewed journals. a big nothing.
>>107085420>>107085466They measured sound quality by how well something matches harman target lmao. Literally doesn't mean anything. Real sound quality is distortion, and in IEMs there is an inverse correlation between price and performance.
This image and EQing by ear kills the graphschizo.
>>107085558check mdaqs plot anon, still the same thing
>>107085555Real life is not reddit, not everything is measured in updoots.
>>107085567we really don't. can't trust anybody's brain if they themselves can't trust their own.
>>107085572and no author is considered real life? stop defending xhim
>>107085497Bunny in my ears
>>107085579Are you OK?
>>107085587Chatgpt is not real life.
>blablablaposblablablaharmanblablablafoxblablabla>WHAT ABOUT THE TRANNIES!!11!1!!!what is wrong with this fucker
I think you guys are all very funny
>>107085602you'll take eqguide with no citations or author over chatgpt.. yeah you're done here and I accept your concession.
>>107085610>you guys>doesn't know it's all just 3 samefagging schizoscome to /hpg/ while you still can
>>107085566Same shit. Just comparing to a target.
>>107085628now open that middle part up
>>107085620Chatgpt lost.
ChatGPT won actually.
>>107085637The middle part is real sound quality. They just don't value it as much as FR.
>>107085622Just checked it out and immediately see a fox poster there. We are one and the same.
Seems like a case of headpos law
>>107085655Which makes sense for the manufacturer, but not for the user.
>>107085642"Magnitude FR" moment.
>>107085610>>107085622All me btw
eq guide won in the end. "errors" pointed out so far:>i can't read it, it's too long>no author = no value. and no, i will not mention the content (can't find any faults)>i need steps because i'm a baby that wants to be spoonfed perfect sound without lifting an eye lidlooks like a total victory
>>107085706total victory in nobody ever reading it forever
Opinions on Flathead Audio? More specifically these things if anyone has tried them before.
>I can't EQ the length mode unless the science man tells me I canI wonder how many boosters is he on right now.
>>107085679Again, he's right. If you are not showing the phase, you should call it magnitude FR.
>>107085730flatheads/earbuds are a meme, good for comfort and general use but sound quality is abysmal in every metric, does not matter what model you're using
>>107085736No such thing as "magnitude FR". There is magnitude response and phase response, the two parts of frequency response. Chatgpt was trained on headfi and thought FR = magnitude response. Chagpt lost.
>>107085726sounds like you can't read it, poor you
>>107085875it doesnt really matter whether anyone can or can't read it, because nobody will ever read it regardless
>>107085730Very special sound but downgrade in every other metric. Wish I could use them for whenever I need to hear around me but my ears are way too small so they either don't stay in or hurt me.
>>107085761Reminder that he only brought up the phase because he didn't know you can EQ the phase, or that EQ works by changing the phase in the first place. He thought that's what driver quality is. He can't say distortion is driver quality because techy IEMs have bad distortion and he wants ea500lm to also be considered techy.
>>107085889It matters a lot that you can't read. You should get that checked out.
>>107085761Go read a paper.
>>107085690 (You)Same.
>>107085911Headpos law is on a rampage today.
>>107085910why are you so obsessed with me? kinda weird
i read the eq guide, it's pretty good
>>107085940
>>107085940you didnt because nobody has ever read the eq guide
>>107085949>but I didn't have breakfast this morning
>>107085946notice how the award isn't pinned on anybodythat is because nobody has ever read the eq guide
>>107085946neat>>107085949i did read it
>>107085969Are you blind? It's pinned on >>107085940But if you're blind that explains why you can't read it, there's no braille version.
>>107085973liar
minimum phase enjoyers wya?
>>107085991Minimum phase pos + linear phase DAC, the way God intended. Drivermixers burn in hell.
>>107085984saying random shit does not make it true reality does not work that way sorry
>>107085898Special or do you mean spacial? Comfort is the main reason why I want flathead earbuds so that sucks to hear they weren't great in that regard for you.
>>107085988you're the liar, look at my badge
>>107086015meant for >>107085949
>>107086022fake and gay
>>107086046i read it, ask me anything about it
>>107086050why didn't you read it
>>107086059i did read it, can you not read my posts?
>>107086069well i assume you are a person, and since no person has ever read the eq guide, you could not have read itunless you are a bot like chatgpt, which is also possible
>>107077996>R18/10 so far. Needs better UI but otherwise excellent>ONE DSPAbsolute ass, 0/10 unusable.Anyone else tried any of the other snake oil in the pasta? Still curious about headphones.
>>107086085you should recheck that statement, i am a person and i read the eq guide
>>107086069>can you not readHe can't. Tragic.
>>107086095ok then post the eq preset you made after learning all the knowledge from the guide
>>107086104
>>107086116lolas i expected, nobody has ever read the eq guide
>>107086119nta but i read it and only take the eq by ear page seriously desu. the rest is gay and i literally piss and cum inside warm tranny asshole
>>107086119You may not like it but this is what peak acoustic impedance matching looks like.
>>107086104>>107086119here it is i removed the 8k peak but it's at a different frequency in my ear
>>107086148you mean to tell me you read a 6 million page guide for 3 fucking filters?
>>107086086>Absolute ass, 0/10 unusable.wym? fit? sound? sound you can eq in the app
>>107086168i only added the ones that i keep fixed, i have a few more filters to adjust things to my liking and then a few more for treble that i didn't include since they aren't usefulbut yes, after reading the eq guide you should be able to make very effective eq presets with minimal filters
>>107086200well then lets see them dumbass, the whole point is to show us what you learned from supposedly reading the 6 gorillion page eq guide
>>107086168>more filters = betterWhat is this mental illness called?
is there any pos with FR similar to this?
>>107086241who are you quoting
>>107086248yu9 que
>>107086295too much ear gain, troon tuck not deep enough, but thanks
>>107086148Chu 2 doesn't have a real 8k, it's coupler resonance. Your ear canal resonance would be most likely different.
>>107086119But of course I didn't. I'm firmly a Chuzo believer.
>>107086386based, chuzo mogs guidezo any day
>>107084427trvclear launch detected
>>107086386Ah yes, 0dB filters, exactly what >>107086168 wanted.
>>107086406They're valid. They work like anchors. Chuzo was just too advanced and his skill was incomprehensible by mere mortals.
>>107086213took a while since peace doesn't seem to export the filters in the normal wayPreamp: -0.7 dBFilter 1: ON PK Fc 4500 Hz Gain -3.0 dB Q 1.000Filter 2: ON PK Fc 7450 Hz Gain -6.0 dB Q 4.000Filter 3: ON PK Fc 9600 Hz Gain -4.0 dB Q 5.000Filter 4: ON PK Fc 11600 Hz Gain 3.0 dB Q 2.000Filter 5: ON PK Fc 13250 Hz Gain -4.0 dB Q 3.500Filter 6: ON PK Fc 1800 Hz Gain -2.0 dB Q 1.000Filter 7: ON PK Fc 180 Hz Gain -2.0 dB Q 1.000Filter 8: OFF PK Fc 20 Hz Gain 0.0 dB Q 1.000Filter 9: OFF LSC Fc 80 Hz Gain 0.0 dB Q 0.710Filter 10: OFF HSC Fc 4000 Hz Gain 0.0 dB Q 0.710>>107086356did you not read what i said after?
>>107086439Harman target enjoyer detected
>>107086430If you stated "I removed the resonance peak" I wouldn't reply to you.
>>107086461i thought that was obvious with what i said, but i guess not
>>107086420Not just valid but heckin cute as well.
>>107086430so the eq guide didn't even teach you how you can just click peace.txt to get the filters?either way this preset is so basic it really isn't convincing and you could have just made up some random filters since it took you so long to respond. sadly I'm going to have say you are probably lying about reading the eq guide, but well done for at least trying unlike every other eq guide shill
>>107086461Which part of "it's at a different frequency in my ear" did you not understand.
>>107086481don't know why you're so adamant about the guide, i just said i read it and you go on a weird ramble about me taking too long to postthe guide i read was useful, that's all i said. the peace.txt was an issue on my end admittedly, but that's not really related to the guide
>>107086497it is actually related to the guide because assuming you are not lying about reading (which you are) that means it omits critical useful info like how to extract filters from peace in favor of masturbatory narcissistic audio scientist roleplay
>chu2 shills and eqguidetards are one and the samegrim
>>107086510i mean, the eq guide is pretty clear about being made for people that want to create eq presetsit would have been nice to know that trick, but that does not help at all with creating eq presets, just sharing them around
>>107086525its made for people who want to read some armchair scientist's wanking over audio science (aka nobody) is what i would say if i read it but obviously i haven't because nobody has
>>107086510How the fuck is this critical info. Critical info is how to create filters that won't make you deaf. That's what the guide is about. Being proficient in juggling shitty online presets is a skill not even reddit cares about.
>>107086540well it does have a full page where it talks about different targets and stuff, and it's pretty clear what it's referencingit seems solid, i don't fully understand all of it but in the time i've been here, i haven't seen any sort of complaint about it so i assume it's pretty good
>>107086560>Critical info is how to create filters that won't make you deafa 3 year old could figure this out in 15 minutes, why is there a 6 trillion page guide about it
>>107086569Harman, squig, etc couldn't figure it out. Only the guide.
>>107086569i've seen the eq presets some anons have shared, and i have to be honest, they were all pretty badi even see a lot of anons still talking about the 8k peak on graphs
>>107086581lots of people figured it out before the guide even came out newfag because figuring out peq is actually quite easythe only reason for the guide to exist is to help mentally damaged sub 60 iq retards learn how to eq and it fails at that because it spends 99% of its time jerking off instead of actually presenting useful information
>>1070866012025, people still autoeq EQ to harman. So, debunked.
>>107085706>can't readcheck>too longcheck>no author / random pseudoscience retardcheck>need baby steps for baby brain checkNEVER DOUBT THE EQ GUIDE.
>>107086608dang for someone who claims to have read the eq guide you really suck at reading
>>107086601>because it spends 99% of its time jerking off instead of actually presenting useful informationof course, this is all just a hypothesis because no one has read it right?
>>107086629correct, i couldn't say for sure because i (like everybody in existence) have never read it, anything I say about the eq guide's contents is hypothetical
>>107086617Nobody figured it out before the guide. You just don't know any better.
>>107086654wow this "nobody" person must be pretty knowledgeable.i wonder why he read the eq guide if he already figured it out?
>i figured PEQ out without the guide!>look inside>hearing loss
>>107086018Yeah, spacial. My bad. I believe most people who say they are comfortable either have big ears or just really don't like inserting iems. But for me, since they don't have a lot of support and just rest in your lobe, they end up requiring frequent readjusting which would just hurt.
>>107086755so everybody who uses peq has hearing loss interesting
>buy cheap pos>autoeq to variationsi'm thinking it's tonally correct
I don't care about sound quality, I just buy IEMs that look nice
Behold, my masterpiece. >>107086838As one should.
>>107086826eq guide shills utterly btfo
>>107086856I learned that from the eqguide
>>107086884wow impressive
>>107085901he didn't even say he has an EA500LM, you're an actual schizo.
>>107081614do these make good bass?
>>107086512why wouldn't eqtards like the chu2 tho. some of the lowest distortion, high EQ ceiling, anime girl on the box is cute. it's a very nice $5 shitbud
>>107087150>high EQ ceilingmeaning what?
>>107087167third worlders think of everything in powerlevels like dragon ball z
>>107087176and still, no follow through with these mongrels.
why does the jew fear the PR2?
>>107088561ooh nice save, thread almost died there
>>107083915So are you saying IEMs will less loudness in the upper mids and treble causes more hearing damage (in case you raise the volume to compensate)? Or the opposite?
>>107084750What's your top 3 favorite IEMs under $500? With EQ or without, doesn't matter.
>>107085005>>select cool japanese musicSorry but I don't listen to cringey bugman "music" like a 12 year old anime weeb.
>>107085263>I have some 60€ KZ ZS10 Pro I got long time ago from a Optimum tech video just to try IEM's, but didn't really like them.What didn't you like about them? Start there and we can figure out what you might like that fits your budget.
>>107085294Absolutely right.
>>107086600>i even see a lot of anons still talking about the 8k peak on graphsNobody has yet convinced me that 8k peaks dont exist in real life. Because a lot of iems have them (especially KZs).
just eq out the ear rape before the hearing loss progresses to deafness
I see CX31993 dongles now combined with a MAX97220 amp chip.My assumption is since the CX31993 is already pretty powerful for IEMs the amp still wouldn't let you'd drive headphones that would need amp and just introduces noise or something.Is this correct?
>>107089105mostly correct. best case scenario: barely any improvement. worst case: hiss.
>>107089153Thanks, glad to see the CX is still the go-to usb-c dongleGetting a replacement for one I lost on the bus and because my laptop has the worst buzz I've ever experienced.
>>107086826Thinking isn't working out for you.
>>107088936They exist but not at 8kHz. That's what length modes are >>107085497Crin just decided to normalize them at 8kHz and others followed, in reality they will vary per person, tip and IEM. Use your ears. Shorter ear canal/deeper insertion moves the peak to higher frequencies, that's the idea behind etymotics. There is a couple of moving peaks above 8kHz too.
>>107086826>>107089545Just remembered a guy with CRA that selected Variations preset in Peace and thought he EQ'd to Variations. Enjoyed the sound too.
>>107088936>Nobody has yet convinced me that 8k peaks dont exist in real life.Who the fuck are you for us to convince you of anything?educate yourself
>>107089798>>107089798>>107089798
>>107077996Why was the JCally JM6 chosen as the suggested name version of the CX-Pro? Does it have above average build quality, longer cable?
