>News & Rumors
Necroposting should be gone for now
RDNA 1/2 are losing active support
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Omissions
-9800X3D: Not usually a significant improvement over a 7800X3D in gaming
-3060: Contrast pricing with 2070 (similar performance, 8gb) and 2080ti
-7700: Region dependent, at ~$250+ you'd likely better served elsewhere
-9060xt 16gb: Performance variable compared to 5060ti, buy only if $350 is the absolute max budget and you can't consider used
-9070: Only worth considering if cheaper than the 5070

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>>107068679

Is it true that you can undervolt a GPU by a lot and not lose performance at the same rate as you reduce voltage?

>>107078383
You gain performance not lose it.

>>107078383
In general yeah

>the Miku PSU is $650

What the actual fuck

>>107078441
weebcattle are the easiest source of money on the fucking planet.
Look at the entire gatcha industry.

Best thermalright air heatsink? Anything NH-D15 tier?

I was wondering, is there any country with reasonable prices for gfx cards?

>>107078425
How the fuck?

>>107078383
Yes but its mostly luck how much, silicon lottery and all that.

>>107078441
Looks like a Seasonic Titanium PSU that failed the Titanium certification and its sold as platinum too.

>>107078514
Temps are the main thing that limits GPU performance.

>>107078514
you're telling the GPU it can run the same frequency at less voltage
which also means you're telling the GPU it can run higher frequency at the same voltage

>>107078441
>GaN PSU
Atleast the gimmick is nice.

>>107078535
Wouldn't this increase power draw, not reduce it? Do I not understand what undervolting does?

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>>107078309
whats wrong with Asrock motherboards(I'm currently using one right now)?

>>107078551
no, power draw will stay basically the same
>you're telling the GPU it can run higher frequency at the SAME voltage
technically power draw does increases linearly with frequency but it's a small effect, voltage and current are what matters, if both stay the same your power draw is the same
>Do I not understand what undervolting does?
just think about what i said really hard
and look up what a voltage/frequency curve is
you're shifting that curve up or down

>>107078514
gpus are power and temp limited, using a lower voltage helps with both

>>107078568
>>107078599
My last question is, can undervolting increase the longevity of a GPU?

>>107078647
Less strain and lower temperatures will increase the longetivity of any electronic.
If you are worried about that invest in some good case fans and a case with great ventilation.

>>107078503
>Best thermalright air heatsink? Anything NH-D15 tier?
Depends on CPU socket, but for AM5 right now either the Phantom Spirit or Royal Preytor 130.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6PJcXjG4b4
On Intel systems the FSP MP7 & Scythe Mugen 6 nearly beat the D15 G2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY-8PZKcMYg

>>107078658
Even after having it all explained to me, it's still kind of surreal that you can reduce the voltage on a GPU, make it function better, reduce its temperatures, and there's seemingly no downside? why doesn't everyone do this? it feels too good to be true man

>>107078668
>and there's seemingly no downside
i hope you understand that going too low will make it crash

>>107078668
>why doesn't everyone do this?
Because if your chip is bad and you lost the silicon lottery it will become unstable.
The default voltage is just the average that was stable on 95%+ of chips, not all die yields are the same, some have defects, some are lower quality, etc but at the same time there are golden samples that work perfectly under any conditions.

>>107078668
CPUs and GPUs are using too big voltages by default just in case. Especially current CPUs benefit from undervolting because it reduces heat so much.

>>107078676
Yeah I know, I was aware of that before I made the first post.

>>107078681
I have heard of people having to do trial and error to find how low they can undervolt, that makes sense.

>>107078683
I hadn't even considered undervolting my CPU, I'll consider it in the future. I plan on handling my CPU and GPU with extreme care.

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Put together something out of spare parts in this case with an R5 3600. The second hand market is pretty shitty but a new 8gb 9060XT is just under $300. I think it'd make a great htpc/sleeper build.

>>107078559
Some ASRock boards are killing AM5 CPUs and the company hasn’t provided a definitive cause nor solution.
https://youtu.be/bmoN6D1roXM

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>>107078924
Hmm that's pretty concerning. I have noticed that upon finishing my build, my AMD CPU runs hot for extended periods of time even when im not running any apps that should cause it.

>>107078668
Lowering the GPUs operating voltage draws less power, which keeps the chip running cooler.
Modern GPUs have an algorithm that allows the chip to boost higher when it has the thermal and power headroom to do so.
You need to OC the GPU core and VRAM frequncies to not lose much/any performance from an undervolt.

>>107078936
The compute chiplets in these new Ryzen CPUs have a high heat density (difficult to cool, especially when it instantaneously boosts to maximum speed), and it’s common to see the IO die idling at around 40C.

>>107078924
>>107078964
Not that anon, should I be concerned about putting an AM5 CPU into an ASUS motherboard or are those okay? do you know if the Ryzen 7 7700X is at risk for this kind of thing in particular?

>>107078988
ASUS boards should be okay, there have been some reports but not as many as ASRock board issues.

I would update the board BIOS to the latest stable version before installing the CPU.
Read up about the BIOS flashback feature.
https://www.asus.com/us/support/faq/1038568/

>>107079018
Are there any motherboard brands that are confirmed to be safe then?

>>107078936
>extended
Depends on your definition of extended. Windows will do things in the background while idle.

I'm having great difficulty deciding between 9070xt and 5070ti in a first self build because I'm a huge worrywart about details and this is a pretty troublesome generation to choose in.

I like DLSS and how high compatibility generally is across the board but NV price and current driver/hardware issues give me huge second thoughts.
I'm aware of redstone coming up but who knows how that will possibly pan out and AMD seems to have issues with compatibility/adoption for anything that has to be implemented directly into games by individual developers.
A large number of games still only have FSR 1 or 2 at best which is not great and 3.1 / 4 still isn't quite as good as DLSS for the small number of games it's actually even in.

What is the current state of each of their drivers looking like now as of late October?
All the information I can find is from 3-4 months back at the most recent but a few months can always make a difference for NV to clean up most of the instability bugs or AMD to suddenly start dropping hot turd drivers out of nowhere like NV did at the start of the year.
Sadly just sitting on 566.36 forever isn't an option for a 5070ti afaik and staying on an old AMD driver would mean missing out on redstone if it ends up being good and actually gets implementation.

How is the 12v-2x6 connector situation looking?
The failure rate is spooking me to no end but second hand internet information can always make things look worse than they are, though just from an objective design standpoint it IS very low on tolerances and has far more realistic points of failure.
I hope for the GPU to last at least 4-5y and NV generally ages more gracefully but passive wear over time on the connector only increases it's risk assuming it doesn't just melt immediately despite how carefully I try to make sure to seat it fully and not leave the cables with bad bends.

AMD's higher power draw is also of some concern to me but it's less of an issue than any of the above.

>>107079120
if you want to use linux, get the 9070xt
otherwise get the 5070ti
12 pin connector isn't going to melt on a 5070ti

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Weird question, is it possible to put two of these open cases inside the 1st drawer? I've been racking my brain thinking of other ways to do it but I can only find a way to fit one.
I don't really want to buy drawer2 but at least it can fit at least 2 inside.

I dont know if hes drinking to celebrate or to cope with the falling of the us and his lifes work after the bubble burst.

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>>107079131
I will be using wangblows, likely 11 highly unfortunately but I'd have to downgrade to it eventually so I might as well get it over with and cope.

>12 pin connector isn't going to melt on a 5070ti
I want to believe that but it seems no one can predict when it will randomly decide to shift loads over to another wire due to resistances or a pin deciding it isn't seated perfectly for any number of reasons which is what I'm fearful of.

>>107079120
You gotta be retarded to choose AMD at this point, they have lost, Nvidia super stable, superior tech, lower power draw, d v advantage

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>>107079252
For Workstation, Nvidia, for Linux its AMD, for gaming it doesn't matter. Just to be safe, get the 9070xt because of 8pin connector.

>>107079252
>I will be using wangblows, likely 11 highly unfortunately but I'd have to downgrade to it eventually so I might as well get it over with and cope.
Either go LTSC or a stripped custom ISO like xOS or FoxOS to lessen the pain:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHjGV1NrO_Y

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>>107078309
ban test. Got a message someone was using tor naughty naughty.

>>107079353
I thought about LTSC but wasn't sure because there might be unforeseen issues or game compatibility that a only mildly advanced user can't expect or diagnose easily thanks to things being stripped out of the install but that could just be overthinking.

>>107079120
>and current driver/hardware issues
Which don't exist or are so rare that you can count the number of big expose internet journalist videos about it on one hand. So just get the 5070 Ti instead of using so much time typing.

>>107079506
What even happened to 5080? I feel like 4080TI was a lot more popular.

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I am trashing 5 of my company's old (still somewhat new) routers. Is pressing the factory reset button on each of them enough or is there anything leftover like when you "delete" something on a HDD or other storage entity that you leave it only open for overwriting?

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>>107079252
>12 pin connector isn't going to melt on a 5070ti
Its a connector problem, exacerbated on the 5090 cause that card is a greedy motherfucker but it can happen, and has happened, on the 5070TI and the 9070xt
I dont think i have seen any report of it happening on the 5060TI tho even using the same connector.
I personally wouldn't let that stop me from picking a 5070TI if it was my choice but i understand worrying.

>>107079550
not having more vram than the 5070TI
Paying 400$ or 500$ extra (about a 50%) for a straight out linear 30%~ increase doesnt really appeal to many people. Had it just 20gb it would get so much more action even if the extra 4gb werent that big of a deal.
Its not a bad card is just a bad deal

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anon who was complaining about voltages on X870E ProFart yesterday here
those Vcore spikes to 1.37 actually vanished after setting a hefty negative CO
however, lcore 26 consistently alzheimers up during VT3
what would be the best approach for finding the best per-core CO offset? CoreCycler?
iirc I did read something about how changing CO on the fly isn't as precise as manually setting it in the UEFI or something around those lines. Helpoo

Anon that bent some pins yesterday
How you living? let us know, we are here for you
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I miss when tech advancement mean you get more for cheap

can someone explain to me why anyone would spend more than 200-250$ on a motherboard for a gaming rig?

>>107078441
heck, its only 1200W
>>107078520
lmao so their literally offloading B tier bins through this collab
it would be funny if thats also the case for 5080 mikus

>>107079931
dude its the cyclical ram/nand flood/fire/demand jewry
we've been through this hundreds of times

>>107079120
>What is the current state of each of their drivers looking like now as of late October?
its pretty good. they fixed the one issue I had with last month's driver and frequently release updated drivers with specific game fixes so its only getting better over time

the biggest upside to choosing amd at this point is that you avoid the melting 12vhpwr connector that's forced onto all 5070ti gpus and only found on two 9070xt models

>>107080001
I got a 5070ti a couple weeks ago, I read the max wattage thru that plug is 318w and the 5090 is 600. I'm sure you already know this but the 5070ti will be fine if you don't have rat cables

>>107080092
its melting on 350W 9070xt's. the connector is flawed.

>>107080168
Do both cards have the exact connection? What wattage does it melt at? And if it's above 600w why are the cards trying to pull more power. Which side is at fault? The card or connection. FYI I got the zotac solid oc

>>107080200
>Do both cards have the exact connection?
Yes in that case, all series 50 use that connector and some 9070xt use it too, only those that use that connector have reported problems.
>Which side is at fault? The card or connection
the connector anon
the connector is at fault anon
It only happens with the 12vhpwr connector no matter the card or the power drawn, it however OBVIOUSLY happens more in cards that draw more power as it increases the chances of whatever the malfunction is to happen
They have even tried to improve on the connector creating a fake 2x6vhpwr instead of a true 12 and moved the pins back a bit so that it seats "snuggier" but there are still reports of it happening.
Just make sure yours is properly seated, not angled near the connection, and hope for the best.
Its a rarity and wouldnt stop me from getting a 5070TI if it fit my needs, for every report of a melting cable thetre have to be hundred of thousands of cards unaffected.

>>107080200
the 9070xt sapphire nitro+ and asrock taichi have the exact same connector implemented the same way on nvidia cards (other than the 3090ti and astral/matrix 4090/5090s) and those 9070xts don't pull more than 350-360W average draw under full load.

the connector is just way too ambitious for its physical spec. it aims to deliver quadruple the amount of power as the old 8-pin pcie connector despite having barely 50% more current delivering capability (pin rating by its maker) as the older connector had a safety margin of 1.9x while the new one operates with only 1.1x margin.

also having 6x pins on the connector means that the worst case scenario is for 1-2 of the pins to deliver most of the power in cases where the resistances of each pin is different

>>107080243
>also having 6x pins on the connector means that the worst case scenario...
to expand on this, the worst case for a 8-pin pcie connector is that all 150W of its load would go through one of its three 12v pins which it can easily handle since each pin is larger and more robust than the ones on the 12vhpwr. whereas the worst case scenario for the 12vhpwr is that all 600W goes through a single microfit pin which itself is only rated for 9.3A at 12V

>>107080239
Ok fine the damn rat cables

reminder that I'm still on AM4 and everything works just great. glad I didn't fell for the scAM5 meme

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>>107080243

>>107080266
All the cards that used 8 pin PCI-E connector had wire sensing. They wouldn't even turn on if you didn't have all pins connected. So the worst case scenario is that all the pins are connected, because otherwise you're staring at a blank screen.

>>107080286
>1 ever
oh noes

>>107080290
pretty sure its the 3rd or 4th reported incident. and for every one thats posted on reddit, there would be several out there that's silently rma'd to the manufacturer

>>107080287
afaik it didnt have wire-level balancing but had connector-level balancing where each connector would power its own set of power stages separate from other connectors which would still allow unbalanced current through each pin on a connector

>>107080281
im on am4 too and im gonna get a non melting 9070xt for christmas and continue playing vidia

>>107079935
stupidity, [H]ard OC, very niche features, looks. Pick one or more

>>107080296
>3rd or 4th reported incident
nothingburger. all GPUs fail in all ways, few of them.
>for every one thats posted on reddit, there would be several out there that's silently rma'd to the manufacturer
that's a 2010's meme, nowadays everyone is melting down about everything on X or plebbit

>>107080306
No, it detects the balance between each wire too. If even one pin is poorly connected enough to make it detect a difference it'll just not work. Having only connector balancing might be a thing with more than 1 12VHPWR, idk. 8 pin PCI-E cards obviously detected that too.

Most 8 pin cards shouldn't work if you cut some wires on the cable. Maybe there are ones without detection circuit, but I doubt it.

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>>107080323
>nothingburger. all GPUs fail in all ways, few of them.
>that's a 2010's meme, nowadays everyone is melting down about everything on X or plebbit
Hrmm....

>>107080200
It's not really a case of total through wattage that melts anything, it's that resistance in the cables (caused by manufacture quality and overbending) and in the connector pins (caused by poor seating and contacts through physical displacement of the whole connector or the pins) makes the power flow through paths of least resistance in fewer cables and connector pins, going far beyond their maximum individual tolerances.

They are already running too close to their max in normal operation and are all joined together in one big block right at the connector which is why they are considered so dangerous, there's very little overhead to deal with any load imbalance and they can shift load very easily because the design safeguards of the standard 8 pin are gone.

In short, they work within their rated max wattage spec perfectly fine under normal intended operating conditions but it's a little too easy to fall outside of normal conditions and overload individual parts.

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>>107080323
im getting strong
>its okay if its amd doing it
vibes here

>>107080339
a small number of GPUs fail in all possible ways, you always hear about few of them online, no matter the model, they fail somehow. shit happens.
then there's tens and tens of reports, and happens to youtubers while testing them, that's something else.
>>107080346
>one or two melted so it's the same as close to 100 melting, basically

>>107080363 me
but 12VHPWR is a shit turd connector I agree

>>107080363
back in my days 8-pin melting happened 1000x less frequently

>>107080374
yeah I got one with 3x8pin connectors I'm not fucking with that meme connector. I'd be fine with a 9060XT on that connector, at most. that's what 150W or smth?

>>107080363
9070XTs with the connector have a higher failure rate by volume than the 5090

>>107078309
Upgrading from ryzen 2600x + GTX 1080

200USD gets me 750w corsair PSU, B550, 32g ram and 3700x in Fractal def 5 case with 420mm arctic AIO.

If I go to get 4070ti and 5800x3d used. Is it worth it or do I just get AM5 around ryzen 7700x?

>>107080467
>200USD gets me 750w corsair PSU, B550, 32g ram and 3700x in Fractal def 5 case with 420mm arctic AIO.
How
Some insane deal on used parts?

>>107080534
it does sound like he is purchasing the whole thing at once so probably buying it of a friend that removed the gpu for his new rig
Cause thats a very good price fo all that shit

>>107080467
That's a wicked build anon. Go ahead.

>>107080290
1(k) in 1 month probably
''user error''

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Looking to get a sizeable TV to watch movies in my bed for cheap. The highest I'm willing to go is like 350-400€. I found the TCL 50P7K to look quite good and it does indeed seem to be good for the price, but I'm looking for more input and if there's anything better out there to look out for. Thanks

>>107080653
When you buy TVs you're supposed to shop locally. Buying TVs online is asking for shipping damage or paying for lots of shipping.

>>107080673
I will drive and pick it up from the store on my way from uni, I'm just picking it out on the shop's website. I just need to know if what I'm looking at is good or if there's anything better in that price range.

>>107078441
the EVA-2 AOI was like 200 more tax lmao

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Best fans for HAVN HS420?


whichs fans are the best currently

>>107080686
Unless you literally show us we have zero clue what the fuck you're talking about.

I just heard about AMD ending support for the 6000 series. How long can I hold on to my 6950xt?

should I wait for the 5080 super or go with a 5090? How much longer do we realistically have to wait for the super drops? I want a fucking pc right now.

>>107078936
Use PTM7950. I redid my 78x3d and 79xtx and they run much cooler.

>>107080732
I'm mostly trying to decide between the 50" TCL 50P7K, the 55" TCL 55P6K which is 5 inches larger, but is also a lesser line of products iirc and a 55" Hisense 55E7Q PRO. I mainly want advice on that, but if there is a better alternative then I'm open to that too.

>>107080784
They backtracked on that and will continue providing day 1 patches
>>107080786
Supers are rumored to launch late Q1 2026 to Q2 2026
The 5090 is pretty much two 5080s put together and also costs twice as much and uses a gorillion watts so that's up to you. It's performance is excellent though

>>107080653
I bought a Philips 55” PUS7800 for 319€ local deal, original price like 1k€ kek
just wait now for bf for deals
it's just a basic bitch edge lit

>>107080826
>They backtracked on that and will continue providing day 1 patches

Alright, I was going to be pissed if they had ended support after I got this gpu three years ago.

>>107080841
>Philips 55” PUS7800
And how is it?
I can get the 55" PUS7810 for 379€ right now.

>>107080673
>go to store
>look at 720p demo
>wow it looks like fucking SHIT!
wow

>>107080858
saw it in person in shit demo stores, waiting on shipping
people who bought it seem happy with the output with a real picture in 4k
waiting one more week until the shit is shipped

>>107080851
We have to wait to see how it develops but it probably means that they wont be trying to make new tech backwards compatible to the 5 and 6000 generations but will keep updating those with day patches for games

>>107080916
That's fine with me as long as the games run fine since I don't care for ray tracing or frame gen.

>>107080893
Right, seems I'll have to go to a store and look at them or whatever since I wanna take advantage of the black friday sales and the reviews I have been able to find for the model I mentioned are not the best, especially criticizing the audio but that shouldn't matter that much because I have a soundbar that I can use with it that I got for free. Just not really sure since there aren't many reviews out for it that I can find.

>>107080964
it's just 20w audio
I used it in store it was fine
but I also have no demands
better than laptop audio

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Build advice
Playing games
Around 430euros Serbia(i have relatives in Germany so i can get shit from there)
I got some extra cash and i dont know if i should upgrade my GPU (RX6600) with something better like on Logical Increments i checked (RX 9060 XT) so yea should i get it or do (You) have a better advice.
Pic related are current specs i also have "Vengeance LPX DDR4 1x16GB 3200MHz" so i can add or replace ram.

pretty sure this is the cheapest 5090 in my area. Worth it /g/?

>>107080976
I don't have high demands either. I've been watching movies in my bed on an old laptop with jellyfin so this would still be an upgrade. But as a broke college student I want to make sure I don't buy some crappy model that I'll have to return or just cope with having it or whatever.

>>107080990
get the 9060 xt, then upgrade to am5 with better ram later.

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forgot pic

>>107081008
Thanks so i guess RTX5060 Ti 16gb is much worse than it ?
(i dont know tech shit i mostly just google is x better than y or sometimes check years,months old reddit threads)

>>107081043
it's actually much better because it has better technology. You should definitely go for nvidia.

>>107081043
5060ti 16gb is like 5% faster and has a higher quality but slower/heavier upscaler (dlss4) so it's about the same
Its only real advantage is that it uses about 20W less power than the 9060xt 16gb

ASUS 27" ROG Strix XG27AQWMG OLED QHD 280 Hz
Gigabyte 27" MO27Q28G OLED QHD 280 Hz
These two monitors seem identical, do i pick whichever?

>>107081062
I found this one
https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Gigabyte-GeForce-5060-WINDFORCE-Graphics/dp/B0FDQXHYFW
So my pc will be able to use it no issues ?
>>107081072
My current monitor is PHL 243V5 and i dont use upscales in games (i always turn that shit off) since well before it just made games look worse

>>107081125
Fuck wrong image ignore it it is 8gb version

>>107081095
way too close priced to 4k 27" qdoled for me so no go
asus > gigabyte, idk how gigabytes oled care operates so if they are on par with asus then they are most likely equal

>>107081125
just get the 5060ti 16gb. it supports more dx12 features than the 9060xt and will age better. it will also hold its value far better because of ai slop needing 16gb+ vram

>>107081095
Both use LG's latest 4th Gen Tandem WOLD panel but the ASUS is a High-Gloss finish while the GB is Matte:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn-bbk_p3Do
The Asus will have some reflections while looking clearer and more lush, while the GB will have less reflections at the cost of a fine haze across the screen. Personally, I'd suggest a QD-OLED instead as they still have slightly better color volume, wider viewing angles, and better panel uniformity.

>>107081134
The one in the link is all good ?

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>>107081144
I've been looking at 4k and 140ppi panels for so long when I go to a store and look at 105ppi woled it looks so insanely ass, come to figure out it looks equally ass on lcd
most likely because low ppi and 1440p actually
man low res is so fucking shit literally
4k 32" is like butter compared to that shit
should anyone except valorant and cs fags buy 1440p? idk

>>107081156
Yeah

>>107079965
More like experimental PSUs, its not bad and well done, what is special about it is that its a GaN PSU instead a Silicon one.
Its a A- tier bin instead a "S" tier bin like all GaN PSUs are supposed to be.

>>107081156
Thats a fine enough model yeah
The rest of your pc is good enough, sucks that your ram is on a single 16gb, usually you'd prefer 2x8gb for 16 but it is what it is. I wouldnt worry about the ram (since you mentioned in your post).
Just update your gpu, your cpu will handle the new gpu just fine.
Keep in mind that for am4 (your current cpu/mobo/ram tech) you wont be able to upgrade as your cpu is one of the better ones and getting a better one would be expensive and not really worth it so whenever you decide to "upgrade" your pc again it will probably have to be a full on switch to the next generation (am5)

Probably a stupid question but if 8-pin pcie connectors are only rated to take up to 150w each, how are corsair PSUs getting 600w out of 2x8-pins to 12v-2x6?
Isn't that overloading the two 8-pins in the PSU by double their tolerance?

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>>107081156
You might want to consider a 5070 for about 70€ more in amazon germany. But the one in your pic is fine

>>107078542
What's wrong with GaN? Shouldn't it run cooler?

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>>107081165
Just wait until next year when phone/tablet-tier PPI Monitors finally become mainstream.

>>107081223
Better, more efficient, more reliable.
A bit overpriced for a desktop PSU though, and if the efficiency is not platinum then there is something wrong with the design.

>>107078441
The ROG THOR 1600W Titanium III is over 800 € here. The GPU-first voltage sensing cable has btw no purchasable replacement and the ASUS support won't replace it either.

best case to buy?

>>107081277
One that you like aesthetically and doesnt have a retarded fan setup
budget? what do you mean by best? etc

>>107081277
That's like asking which shoe is best.

>>107081277
Corsair 5000D and Noctua 12 fans.
You have to think of your use case, there is a case for everything.

There are cases for ventilation, for multilple HDDs, small and thin, etc.

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thoughts on asrock am5 mobo's? Are they still frying 9000 series am5 chips?

Okay this is last link i checked PartPicker price thing for 5060Ti and i found it for 433,95euros + 4,99s/h is it litteraly same shit or how it is different ?
I wish there werent like billion different versions of same shit.
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/ZjWmP6/gigabyte-windforce-oc-geforce-rtx-5060-ti-16-gb-pcie-x8-video-card-gv-n506twf2oc-16gd
>>107081215
Fuck man a fuck it 5060 will be good enough i dont do AI shit anyways.

>>107081223
the only issue with GaN is that its priced for paypigs
the ax1600i was the only GaN option for a long time until this new wave of GaN psus got released

>>107081342
I'm not sure why pcpp is using the eagle's picture for the windforce. In any case, the Eagle is a slightly better gpu than the Windforce but its barely noticeable so get whichever is cheapest

Yeah the one in that link is fine, as other anon said the picture is not the same as the one listed.
Also i just checked and it says 460 on amazon but then when i check the amazon link it says 435 too. In case you prefer to use amazon

>>107081342
>Fuck man a fuck it 5060 will be good enough i dont do AI shit anyways.
Thats fine, i just wanted you to consider it as its a better card overall for not that much more cash.

anybody has any experience buying a 7800x3d from alibaba or temu or whatever?
yes im poor sue me

>>107081393
>>107081404
Tnx guys for quick replies got the cheaper one and now to consider which new monitor to get aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa are AOC ones good enough ?

I'M GONNA BUY PRE-BUILT
YOU CAN'T STOP ME
AND I'LL BE CHEAP ABOUT IT TOO
I'M GETTING WINDOWS 11 HOME EDITION
I'LL LEAVE AUTO-UPDATES ON
AND I WON'T UNINSTALL COPILOT

>>107081420
i wouldnt buy anything like that in a million years, i believe there's some old videos from content creators like Jayz2cents or something about that. But i will give you a very recent example for something much less expensive.

>power up aliexpress for the first time in a decade
>get an ad for a side passage footrest and shoe storage combo, looked pretty handy
>$24aus
>buy it
>keep seeing a metal hinge they use to move the shoe storage open and shut in the imagery though
>product arrives
>its just the metal hinges, no footrest
>i complain in support+provide a picture
>they give me a link to send it back where i will get a full refund, but i have to pay for the envelope and go out of my way to do it
>right after i accept that, they offer me ~65% of the money i spent back with me getting to keep the hinge and not doing anything
>i accept
Now you do get some buyer protection, but getting a full refund if they send you a piece of ceramic tile instead of a cpu is a bit of a hassle, and alot of time wasted.

>>107081204
Those plugs are only rated for 150W on GPU side. PSU side connectors are 300W rated after all 8 pin EPS12V is using the same connector on the PSU side as PCI-E.

>>107081438
>are AOC ones good enough ?
They are usually considered very very budget since they are always the cheapest brand and models.

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#F=685800000&D=166000,600000&P=2&C=0&A=2,5&sort=price&r=256001440

Thats a germany pcpp list of 2k 166hz+ 27" IPS monitors
Order those by price and start checking reviews i guess. Maybe some other anon can chime in

>>107081452
good luck anon i hope you enjoy it

>>107081463
Not even that much cheaper either way, i was expecting them to be way cheaper but a new 7800x3d here is like 330€ and the ones i was seeing there were like 270€. I mean 60€ is still a decent chunk (for me) but its probably not worth the hassle.

>>107081438
Congrats you just got shilled by paid njudea marketeers. 9060 XT is basically the same performance as 5060 ti (usually within 10% sometimes slower or faster) has support for good upscaling with FSR 4 and will be getting almost all the same features as the 5060 ti with fsr redstone before the end of the year. Should have saved 100 dollars to buy a game or something. Never trust this thread it's just advertising for years now.

>>107081499
Yea that is a possibility but still whatever it is it is much better than 6600 (that was bought from crypto miner)

My computer has an issue
I had a couple power surges and had to get a replacement PSU because my old one got killed.
Now however I have to hold the power button just to turn my computer on, and when i leave it off overnight for too long It won't turn on at all. I have to wait like 5-10 minutes of holding the power button hoping that it will actually start
the LEDs of my usb peripherals flash on and then off which means it's trying to start up but can't until it eventually manages to which afterward it works fine until I shut it off.
What's going on? is this a motherboard issue? there's no pcbg so I'm gonna ask here.

>>107081507
Yeah anon im an nvidia paid marketeer i just earned a jewllion dollars from helping you choose a 430€ card

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>>107081481
I see, that makes sense.

>>107081543
NVIDIA for me not for three.

want to buy a 9800x3d, should I just pull the trigger now or waitfag for blackfriday and hope its more then a 5% discount?

>>107081598
No. You should wait for next gen intel.

>>107081598
not really
you can get good monitor from black friday but the sales are only shovel crap

>>107081598
It sounds like they're gonna launch the 9850x3d with 400mhz higher boost clocks soon so maybe a 9800x3d clearance sale will be up soonish?

>>107081634
why? So they can change the socket after a year again?

the only sales on cpus is intel
if you want amd you buy now

>>107081677
this
maybe also pre-built pcs

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hi pcbg sisters

Is 1000W psu enough for 12700k + 9070xt + 2060?

9070xt for older title 4k gaymen on host and nvidia for passthrough to winblows vm (for some work software it works better with)

havent bought 9070xt yet, not gonna be home with workstation for 2 months so I'm unsure if waiting for 5070ti super duper scalper 24gb edition will be worth it, but maybe nvidia is a little more efficient so I wouldnt have to worry about psu upgrade?

Should I get a B650 motherboard now if I want the possibility to upgrade to Zen 5+/Zen 6 whenever they come out in the future?

>>107081673
Who cares about socket at this point. Anyways hopefully intel gets a slam dunk which will lower AMD prices if you are set on one. It's a win win.

>>107081754
Yes but buy b850 or x870
Newer chipsets with PCIE 5.0

>>107081529
buy another case anon. and probably your motherboard too. Get a better surge protector next time.

>>107081789
Is B840 a good middle ground if B850 is a bit too much? The main concern here would be worse VRMs than on 850, because they're slightly lower end.

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>>107081890
7800x3d + 9070 flashed into xt

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>>107081915
yes radeon bro

>>107081853
B840 don't seem to be cheap enough to make up for how terrible they are compared B850

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Friendly reminder I'm very happy with my m27p6 purchase!

>>107081890
i would eat my shoe if the supers come anytime earlier than late summer 2026
The new x3d i could see coming in q1 but i wouldnt hold my breath either

>>107081915
ignore the radeon shill, he can't stop taking Ls recently

>>107081961
Thanks for the reminder, i almost forgot.

>>107081711
>9070xt + 2060
Just get one good card that will blow both of those out of the water.

>>107081932
I saw that, they have terrible VRMs. The problem is that B850 is more than B650, I don't know if getting the older chipset will cause problems if I want to install a ryzen 10/11 series.

>>107081987
Ryzen 7 is single ccx

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New 'puter didn't make me happy.

>>107082070
Mine does. I love my 5090.

Do you think it's worth upgrading from a 7600X to a 7800X3D?

will a 5090 help me get a qt japanese school girl wife?

Is it true that the BIOS of Gigabyte AM5 boards is more likely to fail?

>>107082070
Anon, nothing can fill the void.

>>107082223
define worth, what do you use the pc for etc
Its a 200€ more expensive chip

>>107082237
no

>>107082241
the fuck does that even mean

>>107080653
Consider buying a projector. They're decent now.

>>107082257
as in the BIOS getting corrupted and unable to be flashed back

>>107082257
>define worth, what do you use the pc for etc
>Its a 200€ more expensive chip

Mainly just playing games and watching movies.

>>107082325
enjoyed your vacation, nicotroon?
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/image/2J1BSPhXGgiadZfIR0CKzQ

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>>107082304
x3d chips shine specifically in cpu bound games (duh) that do a lot of calculations at once where the extra cache helps
The examples that this thread use to give are MMO, big ass city builders, autism simulators (factorio and the like), and multiplayer shooters.
If your games tend more towards Action single player (souls rollslop, sony action moviegames), single player rpgs, platformers, metroidvanias, grand strategy etc then the 3xd wont be used fully.
For media consumption thats a moo point.

So now you can at least make a more informed decision.

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>>107081225
>half ppi of a phone
just wait for terapixel displays soon
but in all seriousness if the 5k 27" is like 240hz it will be good
if they cuck it to 165hz yeah, yeah
shit even 27 4k might be the goat right now

>>107081543
that's what happens when you adolescentmaxx into adulthood with 0 test and mass increase
you just have an alien tier numale domesticatemaxxed body

>>107082070
have sex

>>107079748
OCCT has a per-core tester, but is limited to 1or 2 hours for the free version.

>>107082294
There seem to have been more (not a lot) reports of gigabyte mobo issues and this thread is known for hating on gigashite.
So i persoanlly think its overblown and you are safe with a gigabyte mobo (im using one right now unaware they migth have been trouble) but its ok to be wary and try another brand (not asrock tho)

>>107082336
he has been posting in the thread earlier trying to be all sneaky and shit

>>107082346
Thank you anon, appreciate it.

>>107082367
>he has been posting in the thread earlier trying to be all sneaky and shit
i'm sure but he's seething about the 5070 ti again so i could immediately tell it was him lmao
3 day ban for spamming/flooding, 0 lessons learned

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>Cover blown already
Oh well... novideo drivers not fixed yet and dlss still broken on bf6 regardless

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steam hardware survey is out, stil lnot 9070, 9070 xt or 9060 XT at all

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/?sort=pct

>>107081277
If you are looking for price to performance, I think, Lancool 207, 2017, Fractal Torrent. If you are looking for asthetics, consider Fractal North, Qube 500 and anything else that you like the looks of.

>>107082504
oh well... no one cares
i understand you have nothing better to do while dilating but you could at least make it less obvious that you're phoneposting

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>>107082546
>most common card is a 3060
>i have a 3060TI

>>107082546
5070 is gaining more momentum; 5060 and 5060 Ti are also not doing too badly.

>>107082546
what does amd radeon graphics mean when there is no model attached?
dont tell me that it is...... integrated graphics

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Reminder : Under no circumstance should you "feed the beast" (troon)
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/107047405/

>>107082618
Nico doesn't know that mods and jannies can view deleted replies.

>>107082618
delusions of grandeur

>>107082633
Yeah that's why I never get banned for the posts I delete even though you all report them.

>>107082617
Most likely integrated GPUs.
People who buy Ryzen CPUs without disabling the iGP through the BIOS might be getting those GPUs counted into the Steam Survey.
I've got my iGPU disabled, and it didn't show up in the Steam Hardware detection results just now.

>>107080704
You know the answer to this but you want someone to say not noctua.

>>107082688
i never reported any of your posts
maybe i should start doing that, you seem to be welcoming it in fact
i think everyone could tell the brand war shit was entirely artificial and it was funny sometimes but now you're just acting like an upset toddler who isn't getting his way
consider making some good posts instead of wasting everyone's time, you can adopt a new persona by posting an anime girl from a different series
no one will know, you can even pretend to be heterosexual

>>107081487
>Maybe some other anon can chime in

Can some anons chime in ? Before i just bought any shit but i now want to have better experience (on a budged)

>>107082546
it seems weird that they simply dont appear, they have to be one of those "radeon graphics" unspecified
I mean we can brand war all we want but the 9070xt sold well

>>107082780
If you're asking about decent budget monitors, the Samsung G50D should be okay.
We've had one anon who's recently bought it, and he's very happy with it.
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/9xLdnQ/samsung-odyssey-g50d-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-ls27dg500enxza

Alternatives would be
Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQL3A
LG 27GS75Q-B
Dell Alienware AW2725DM

They will mostly look and perform the same. I think TUF has variable overdrive, but it's not that big of a deal.

>>107082788
9070 and the GRE appear in the Vulkan compatible GPUs.
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/directx/

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>>107082854
But I w-was a-always s-straight~
WHY DO YOU T-THINK I POST PICS OF CUTE ANIME GIRLS?!
c໒( ◐ ﹏ ◐ )७੭

>>107082934
never mind he's reverted to fag mode again
send him to the jensen huang conversion therapy center

>>107078309
Add the Lian Li Galahad 2 Lite or Corsair Nautilus RS for AIO recommendations.
Get rid of the GPU future-proofing message or move that down to the 2nd post if you need to make room.
OP seems to spend too character count talking about used GPUs when not many anons ask about this market.

>>107082365
per run or total time?

>>107083126
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/image/PwSoyDB-lE-suG0FvmA5zg

is it dumb to buy regular SATA SSD in 2025?

I already have 2 installed with no issue but I feel like a 3rd will start causing PCIE lane fuckery.


also if I put together a 2nd PC and connect it to the home network its technically a NAS ?

>>107083133
Please understand, he's mentally unwell.

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>>107083086
Per run. It also has a nice CPU + RAM stress test that catches IMC-related errors pretty consistently.
Anta777 @ Overclock.net is known for creating some popular TestMem5 profiles, and he recommends OCCT (LEV = Large Data Set, Extreme Mode, & Variable Load Type).
https://www.overclock.net/threads/amd-ddr5-oc-and-24-7-daily-memory-stability-thread.1800926/page-1325#replies

YMMV with time-restricted free runs.

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>>107083066
>Add the Lian Li Galahad 2 Lite or Corsair Nautilus RS for AIO recommendations.
Why not both?
>Get rid of the GPU future-proofing message
Noted

>>107083193
You already bored of this thread?

>>107082788
>sold well
they sold terrible otherwise they would appear in the steam hardware survey, and no they are not in those categories, as they have barely moved since the RDNA4 launch.

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>>107083330

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>>107083261
this is the steam hardware survey from march (when the 9070 XT came out) compared to the recent results and as you can see AMD won less than 1% marketshare and the only categories that increased meaningfully in this periods are the RDNA3 with cards like the Als RX 7800 XT doubling in usage from March to Oct and 7600 XT among the few RDNA 2 and RDNA3 cards that seem to be finally selling at heavy discounts in third world markets

https://web.archive.org/web/20250402020128/https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam

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I hate i can't post about gpus on this fucking hellhole
There uses to be some 600€ 9070xt on my country powercolor reaper or saphire pulse which i assume are the bottom tier of products
However now there is picrel for 630
Is it worth the extra 30? cause im starting to itch it seems like a good buy

>>107082279
Haven't even thought of that, that's actually a great idea. Any recs for a cheap-ish good projector? My walls aren't white btw if that matters.

>>107083399
They're fine, nice dual BIOS feature.

>>107082857
They also appear under Linux, its just that most people are smart enough to not buy AMD GPU's. only a retard like nicotroon would fall for it

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NOW!

why is pcbg full of retarded bait spam

>>107083523
90% of it is one poster

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>>107083399
Asus Prime OC is the Nico Approved 9070 XT Model!!! Mine works fine even in my case with awful airflow due to a front radiatior.

How worried should I be about audio codec shit?
I hear everyone say ALC897/892 are horrible audio codecs and that I should try to get ALCS1200A or ALC1200/1220 instead.
My current motherboard uses ALC1220, how much of a downgrade would I experience going to 897?

can't decide what to buy
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>107080804
I actually just ordered a thermo pad from Amazon because the overheating issue was starting to concern me

>>107083573
A 265k

when 10800x3d and nu intel gen?

Are B850 motherboards less stable than B650 motherboards? I've heard a lot of people complain about problems with their DDR5 memory on B850 motherboards but I don't know if bios stuff resolved those problems or if those problems were rare to begin with

>>107083607
tomorrow

>>107083561
do you even use the on board audio outputs?

>>107083657
I'll be real with you, I don't know. I plug my headphones' audio jack into the PC case's front IO panel. Could you explain what that means for my audio?

>>107078313
>-9800X3D: Not usually a significant improvement over a 7800X3D in gaming
so the the 9800x3d sucks now?
why would you pay extra for a cpu that is not even better?

>>107083682
yes you do use it then
you can get some cheap USB audio and it would be comparable to your motherboard AND might not have any interference from poor placement on the motherboard causing audio quality issues

>>107083697
OP is retarded and full of misinformation ignore it. It makes a big improvement in very cpu limited mupltiplayers games, tarkov being the most notable improvement. The pricing is not that bad either when you consider it's relative to the performance increase you're getting.

>>107083709
what would I google to find what I'm looking for? I'm looking up "USB audio" and I'm just getting USB to 3.5mm converters

>>107083547
guess i can't buy it then

>>107083697
Because they saw it on youtube?
The difference is like 15% in the best case scenarios, most realistic scenarios for games the difference is basically non-existent
>>107083726
Would it make you happier if the recommendations included a 7900 or non-existant gpu for workstations?

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>>107083697
Its a better chip than the 7800x3d obviousfuckingly its just considered not enough for the price hike
Its a similar issue to the 5070TI and the 5080
The 5080 is a better card no two ways about it but its probably not worth the extra money if you compare them in a "performance per dollar" chart.
If you have the money and want that extra performance go for the 9800x3d just be aware its not that much better than the 7800x3d

>>107078309
I wish we started using Xbox 360 / PS3 / PS4 emulation as the CPU benchmark

>>107083733
I wouldn't worry about it unless you do experience static or distortion on your motherboard audio.
yes, USB to 3.5mm is a DAC. All DAC vary widely in quality and price. You should not worry about the motherboard onboard and if it's not sufficient for you, get a better USB DAC

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>>107083217
this is monumentally helpful. Tysvm, anon
might as well shell out the shekels for the sub until I find rock solid stability. Seems like a great investment

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How do you respond without sounding mad?

I'm trying to copy files to an external Toshiba hhd disk and it's extremely slow. Nothing gets copied, I copy less than 1 gb and it says multiple hours to copy. I'm using Linux mint cinnamon.

I cant get my files out, they are hostages in my computer.

>>107083938
dying drive

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>>107084079

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Cleaning my PC. How often you clean your PC?

Hello /g/
here's a rig I whipped up recently
Was fishing for big discounts and ended up with this for less than 1700 dollarydoos (about 7k Polandballcoins converted, we got higher VAT over here so shit's generally slightly more pricey):
MSI B850 Tomahawk Max WiFi
Fractal Meshify 3 (no rgb, just tinted glass cause it was cheaper than a full solid case)
MSI MPG A1000G (5.1/3.1 revision)
9800X3D
Phantom Spirit 120 (regular, not SE)
Goodram 32GB 6000 M/T 30L
Asus Prime RX 9070
Smasnug 980 Pro 2TB
Some random sata hdd and ssds I had lying around from my old rig.
How retarded is this pairing? I want to sit on this build and just exchange gpus when actually solid upgrades become available in a good few years.

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Finished.

I also washed pad, it's dries.
>Ibn4 OLED
OLED is too expensive for me. Even with 4080/7800x3d build.

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>>107078309
>need to travel
>only decently-priced B650E/B850 ITX boards come from ASRock and Asus
Someone talk me out of it

>>107080363
>a small number of GPUs fail in all possible ways
>no matter the model, they fail somehow
In my experience it's just power draw. I still game daily on my 2012 Win7 build with a Sapphire 7850 2gb, thing's been pegged at over 90% utilisation for well over 10,000 hours, still makes zero noise and shows no signs of silicon or PCB degradation.

I have a sizeable collection of hardware from 386's to modern shit, excluding mechanicals, environmental damage, and PCB manufacturing deficiencies, power is what kills. And it's expensive to make power not kill electronics, so manufacturers don't do it. PCBs handling 130w are built to the same standards, with the same layup, and same copper gauge, as ones handling 600w. Beyond their shake-down year or two, the ones pushing 600w will die, the ones pushing 130w will not.

>but muh premium VRMs
GPU VRMs are pitifully under-built when compared to modern motherboard socket VRMs, or even socket VRMs from the Core2 era. And it doesn't matter how well you cool them, the temperature gradient peak is what matters, and it's source is always way hotter than your card reports, because the probe isn't at the source.

>>107084201
Asus is fine just remember to turn off the auto install armory crate bs in bios

>>107084201
asus isn't bad outside of the bloatware is it?

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>>107084079
> I guess my biggest question is how much do I have to spend on a GPU
Is 2k pounds your whole budget, including monitor?

> and 8TB HDD for storage
Too fat.
> a 1TB SSD
That's retarded at this point.
> , 64GB RAM
You don't need that much unless you want to work in plm software.

Anyway, my hints. Don't go cheap on PSU.

>>107084162
What is that horrible monstrosity taking up the space where an aio pump should be?

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>>107084173
Forgot image - spaghetti and those drives. One Sata is red cause there's another ssd underneath the MX500 to make it easier to tell them apart.

Smart AI tells me about 20% markup is common for prices in Bolan so taking that into consideration this rig would have cost about 1.5k dorra in the US

>>107084252
I don't like water cooling, especially when it's not necessary

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>>107083791
would any cheapo USB DAC sound better than ALC897?

>>107084201
There are mATX SFF cases which are literally the same size as the ITX ones because the lower limit of case size is now dictated by graphics cards, not motherboards.
Also I have a good opinion of Asrock, did they fuck up and we hate them now?

>tfw no cases with a 5in bay, low mounted psu, cable management and non see through side panel

>>107084272

I got FIIO JadeAudio JA11 for my retarded minijackless tablet and tried it on the pc and it sounds better than low-tier mobo codecs on Fidelio X2HRs.

>>107084231
>>107084243
But aren't the installers still baked into the UEFI?

>>107084273
For sub-20L, the only mATX options are Jonsbo which has rubber side panels held in by magnets and Ncase which costs 2~3x everything else. ASRock still haven't resolved the AM5 issue, and their customer support is Asus-tier.

>>107084173
Looking good to me.
9800x3d is overkill unless you're playing mostly esports but whatever.

Hi anons after 10 years I am going to upgrade my gpu. So I have a small question, 5060ti 16gb or 5070? I have a 4k screen, but actually want to play on 1440p upscaled like a ps5. This is possible right?

>>107084371
That's exactly what DLSS does (and SFR) - rendering at a lower resolution than upscaling thru AI. 5070 is better value for what you're getting performance-wise unless the 5060ti is more than 35%+ cheaper. 5070 might even handle some less demanding shit in 4k without upscaling

>>107084162
had to do it monthly at my old place because it was a dusty and rather windy environment
probably once or twice a year will suffice now

>>107084371
DLSS
5070ti>5070>5060ti (duh)
12gb could be a small annoyance going into the future but that's still not worth losing 30-40% of your performance if the only way for you to afford 16gb is the 60ti. With games that are out now, going over 12gb is settings you aren't using on either, actually probably wouldn't using them on a 9070xt/5070ti tier gpu either.

>>107082834
Tnx man i will check that out.

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>>107084423
thanks guys, then I will go with a 5070. I hope with my 3600 it will not be bottlenecked lol. Should I wait for BF deals? I am not living in the us.
Should I care about fans ? I know it's more about OC, but I don't think I will OC it honestly.

Okay, I've recently been informed that my rig is probably bottlenecking hard on processor performance, because honestly I didn't realize how long it's been since I upgraded that. Specifically I've got a 4080 but still struggle to get Cyberpunk/Darktide/STALKER 2 and a bunch of other shit to run above 70-80fps at 1920x1080 (aiming to match a 144Hz monitor). Current processor is a Ryzen 7 5800X.
I don't plan on replacing the 4080 any time soon, but what approximately should I be looking at in the processor upgrade department? Newegg has a Ryzen 9 9900X for $560CAD...fuck is the difference between a 9900X and a 9900X3D, other than a few hundred bucks? And I'm assuming I'll want to swap up to DDR5 RAM, right?

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>>107084173
If you plan to install HDDs in the regular Meshify 3, it can only house
>2 HDD plus 2 SSD
>1 HDD plus 4 SSD
>6 SSD
It's still a nice case; the bundled 140mm Momentum fans are nice.
I recommend you connect the SSD's power & data cables if you plan to install them at the bottom of the case.
Your cable management has to be spot on; it's basically a taller Meshify Compact.

PSU is overkill, but it's fine if you plan to get a halo-tier card or a beefier CPU in the future.
Check prices for Crucial T500 or WD SN850X too.

>>107084188
Is that a projector screen? The desk seems cleaner.

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>>107084504
I'd rather buy a 1440p monitor than buy a new CPU, board, & memory for 1080p gaming.

Will a normal OLED TV (144Hz) be better for playing video games than a 144Hz IPS gaming monitor?
My idea is that instead of replacing my IPS monitor with an OLED monitor (something I don't want to do because I use monitors heavily and would destroy an OLED screen), I would buy an OLED TV just for when I play games on my PC.
What do you think? Does it make sense? Am I being retarded and forgetting something?
Thank you.

>>107084539
This is spam; there are nearly 30 replies left until this thread reaches the bump limit.

>>107084546
Same problem though, if my rig can't keep up with a 144Hz 1080p monitor, it won't do any better with a 1440p unless I drop back down to 60Hz.

>>107084558
Okay and? Just finish filling this up then move. No need to sperg.

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>going to buy a 5090
>have the best gpu on the planet for the next two years until the 6090 releases
>going to sell it for like 90% of what I paid for when I first bought it.
>or maybe will even make a profit of it if the release is going to be the same shitshow as the 5090 release.

sounds like a win win situation?
basically leasing the best gpu for like 300$ for two years.

and if I'm lucky I will make profit because of how bad the whole 2nm production is going the numbers of 6090s is going to be even worse than the 5090s at release.

How do I bios a 1080p gaming PC for 500 USD or less?

>>107084597
*build
not bios lol

>>107084583
You are the one who needs to stop sperging out with the new threads.
You add nothing to /g/ by adding another /pcbg/ thread until a new one is needed.

>>107084539
Watch out this is a poopdickschizo thread, do not engage him or his schizo meltdown
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>>107084595
I think it depends on how you want to use it. I bought the RTX3090 when it was top of the line, but if I had only used it for video games, it would have been a total disappointment. But since I was rendering some things, its 24GB of VRAM was extremely useful, and I simply couldn't have worked with other GPUs.

>>107084616
Creating duplicate generals is against the rules. More than one thread with /pcbg/ in the subject line on the catalog is not allowed.

>>107084556
If the viewing distance and height aren't an issue, an OLED TV for gaming is perfectly fine.
https://www.youtube.com/@plasmatvforgaming9648

Pick an OLED TV that has decent game mode features. We have a TV guy who regularly visits /pcbg/ and he recommends LG or Samsung OLED TVs for pc gaming.

>>107084595
That's of course assuming it retains value like the 4090 did

>>107084642
Your threads are AMD /pcbg/ (+ a B580). There are no duplicates.

>>107084607
Used GPU + Microcenter CPU & Mobo bundel.

>>107083149
SATA drives do not use PCIe lanes

>Want to take screenshot of something and save it with paintt dot net
>If I try to move the paint window around while the game is still open my GPU's drivers shit themselves and the screen goes black for a second
I'm about to just stop using paint dot net at this point because I don't get how this is even a thing

>>107084642
>More than one thread with /pcbg/ in the subject line on the catalog is not allowed.
Brandwars are also not supposed to be allowed
Mine won't be a duplicate of yours don't worry

>>107084659
If you're on Windows: Shift + Windows Key + S to enter screen clip mode.

>>107084504
a 5800x is an am4 processor, a more than decent processor from that architecture and should easily keep you at 60fps on any game with a 4080 @1080p Are you enabling dsll or are you hoping for the 4080 to give you 120fps on demanding stuff?
Anyway if you want to upgrade the cpu you need to move to AM5 as your cpu is one of the topdogs of am4 and the chips better than the one you using are mainly discontinued, and you would be investing on a dead platform.
For AM5 you need new mobo, new cpu & new ram, a new psu wouldn't hurt. Then you will also want a new 1440p screen.
Do you have a budget you can share? and what is the pc for? just gaming and watching youtube? This is in canada right?

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>>107084659
>If I try to move the paint window around while the game is still open my GPU's drivers shit themselves and the screen goes black for a second
That sounds like the issue you should actually be getting opinions on.

>>107084640
>I think it depends on how you want to use it.
ai genns and maybe some light gaming.
>>107084650
ofc but with how the 2nm production is going I don't see it dropping that much.

>>107084595
if you can afford it rn, go for it
I did the same, currently renting it on a VM and will definitely pick up off the record render jobs from the poorfag archi students over yonder during downtime
uni pays for electricity so win^3
the only thing that made me doubt the decision is the fucky connector but kinda put a condom on it by hooking a thermal probe and hanging a smol fan to blow directly on 12VHFAIL. It's been a month and so far so good

>>107084699
>ai bubble pops
>new data center demands slow down
>suddenly Nvidia gives us all overkill amounts of vram in each price segment
What now mister investor?
I still say get a 5090 if you want either way though just to be clear lol.

>>107084718
Tbh, the moment I heard my country was investing in Data Centres I knew the bubble was months away from bursting.

>>107084680
Well I don't know what to do about that because it's literally only PDN that has this problem, and the only way I can fix it is by turning off hardware acceleration in it's settings

>>107084718
>ai bubble pops
yeah that is true
this would fuck me completely over since I would never pay so much money for a fucking gpu if I'm not expecting to get a lot of it back.
but as things are going atm I think I'm safe for the next 2 years.

>>107084715
>the only thing that made me doubt the decision is the fucky connector
what is the tl;dr on those nowdays?
just undervolt it and get a ATX3.1 psu and you're good?

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>>107084257
It's already built, wasn't as bad as I expected with the cable management.
Love the case - especially the easily removable top panel so I can easily work on the gpu cooler to repaste etc without the top panel getting in the way. Kept pissing me off in my old purebase 500 and having to clip-on the fans to the cooler block.

Only problem is the old toshiba hdd touching the side panel and trasferring vibrations to it, but I just glued a small piece of foam onto the hdd and that mostly fixed it.

>>107084778
samefagging as >>107084715
the AI bubble is a term sperged off as cope by NEEToids that subconsciously fear their impending uselessness in the society and thus their financial collapse
coincidentally, if you lurk more on tech related discussions, you'll find that most of them are pretty disconnected from reality (e.g. unironically troons)

>>107084642
get fucked retard

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>>107084556
to make a challange you gotta atleast make the other side have some up sides, which in case for the lcd here there are none
to paint you the picture I could get a 77" B4 for less than what a 27" PG27UCDM costs
that's a 700% larger area picture
is the monitor superior in hz color and sdr full screen brightness? yes but woled vs qdoled and so on
a G4 55" approximately the exact same price as the pg27ucdm, way less than the PG32UCDM launched at
C4 55" on sale could be had even cheaper

just get a LG B/C/G or Samsung S90/95 on sale or open box and always try to get 55"+ for the brightest panels else you get slightly gimped panels

and if you think oleds are too dim then you are pretty much locked in to only getting a G5 or S95F because higher sdr brightness and betterthanminiledinrealscenarios(tm) hdr brightness

makes no sense to get a monitor if you have space and don't need more than 165hz

why not

>>107084647
is that me or some one else I wonder
the joke is I don't even own a tv.. for now

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>>107085147
>is that me
Perhaps. Maybe. We must investigate this further.

can I get a system under $1100 to run bf6 at 1440p? I dont want an amd gpu

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>>107084813
ask again in the next thread, this one is on page 10