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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

The Edition

>News
Zhipu AI releases GLM-4.6 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.6
Anthropic releases Claude Sonnet 4.5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-5
DeepSeek releases V3.2 Exp https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250929
DeepSeek releases V3.1 Terminus https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250922
Kimi K2 0905 released https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2

additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc | https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.html
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.html
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.html
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org
useful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn

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Are we actually going to see AGI chat bots next year? What are the odds, would you say.

It's not like I get to choose where my fucking tax dollars go. Jews are gonna bomb children and try to bring back slavery anyway.
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>>107110860
Anyone who thinks actual AGI is going to come from these retarded choose the next word bots has been swindled and tricked.
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>>107110860
text prediction and agi seem similar but are unrelated
50 more years, at minimum
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Locusts are dying ( • ̀ω•́ )
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>>107110875
I'd say this, too.
Billionaires are a bit too eager to enslave humanity with autonomous robots. The best they can do is have man-operated machines do the dirty work.
Like the drones they're using in the Russia Ukraine conflict.
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Surely we'll get chat bots with real-time context driven image generation soon, though.
The tech is already there, we just need it to be integrated and marketable.
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Hoshino breads best breads
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>>107110860
Does everyone forget Trump enacted a bill to prevent AI regulation for 10 whole years?
We have loads of time.
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oh i forgot the edition name
oh well
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>>107110902
America might not exist in the next 10 years lmao.
Trump is selling out HARD right now. Pandering to Jews is going about as well as boomers are dying left and right.
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>>107110904
dont worry I forgot the previous thread link on my OP
both of our breads stink
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no we're not dying, we're multiplying (‾꒳‾ )
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>>107110914
>Trump is selling out HARD right now. Pandering to Jews is going about as well as boomers are dying left and right.
you can replace trump with any president that's not jfk, selling out and pandering to jews has always been a core value of america
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>>107110928
A core value of the boomer generation.
Gen Z noticed. Israel bought Tik Tok and actively bans antisemitism. Do you actually think they're suddenly going to think 'Oh, okay! I guess I'll support Jews now! Why not!'?
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>hating on jews
>on a thread that shills anthropic 24/7
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>>107110945
Zionism is pretty deeply rooted in AI right now, so the connection is hard to overlook.
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>>107110945
Google, Anthropic, OpenAI all gets shilled hard while schizos shut down any conversation about Deepseek. The thread schizos must be working for the IDF
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Hate me for it but I'm rooting for DeepSeek. I hope China rapes Israel to the point of total irrelevancy.
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>>107110959
to be unfair, US AI tech firms have a reason to hate Deepseek, as it completely undermines the (((totally real))) not-a-bubble they have created.
The fact that they actually cried foul and tried to get Trump to ban it over (((security concerns))) should tell you everything.
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Is it worth it to update SillyTavern from 1.12.11?
What am i missing out on?
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>>107110977
the seethe from day 1 of deepseek was incredibly funny
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>>107111003
I know lololol..
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>it's a bubble
pol's strongest warrior btw
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Good DeepSeek preset? please? Something that works for you anons
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>>107111032
have you tried checking the op anon
or coming up with your own
it's not that difficult really
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>>107111032
there are no good deepseek presets
deepseek as a model isn't salvageable
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let me be clear
openai and anthropic and google made me switch to deepseek. they are the ones who turned me into chink customer, with their horrible treatment of customers. fuck the west. fuck usa. fuck israel. I will gladly pay my money to deepseek and/or glm now.
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What's the best model for netorare?
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>>107111059
This guy gets it.
If you're a normie who gets on his kneels for corporate cock no matter how badly they treat you as a consumer, you deserve what you tolerate.
I'm not saying China is the good guys.
I'm saying there are no good guys and this is all a test of competency.
Being cartoonishly evil and narcissistic doesn't end well. Tick tock, rabbi.
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2025 almost ended yet the best indian can do is llama3 8b finetune. where's the Made in India model that rival qwen/dipsy?
2025 superpooper btw
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*AHEM*

>*shupo shupo shupo*

the trvth dealing TRAIN OF FACTS has arrived:

ever since deepseek released all claudeniggers and opusniggers have been on suicide watch

their little github scrapelet club got obliterated to smithereens as xi's BCC came in like a wrecking ball onto the ai battlefield

suddenly they were no longer special, and even brown people started getting unfettered access to top quality chatbot roleplays

so they will always, perennially, and continually shill for opus and sonnet because they forever lost what made them special and now have to cope with being at the same level as brown people (me)

so let it be written
so let it be done
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>>107111070
exactly. I didn't want to run to china and chinese models. but what choice do I have? western companies treat me like shit, while chinks provide me with the product I want at affordable price. the choice was clear for me.
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>>107110969 (Me)
>>107110977 (Me)
>>107111003 (Me)
>>107111059 (Me)
>>107111070 (Me)
>>107111091 (Me)
>>107111103 (Me)
all me btw
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>>107110945
i mean isnt this the general for NOT paying for services? seems pretty legit to use jew tactics against jews.
anyway i was drawn here by this really awful OP >>107110858 and now i kinda wanna observe, like a david attenborough nature documentary..
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>>107111260
>this really awful OP
>The Edition
cmon m8, if your going to seethe, at least be honest with yourself
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>>107111306
im not the guy that made that OP you retard, but i do want an explanation behind black jenny thoughhowever.
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>>107111318
Her name is Jenniqua, ackthually, and she is a certified queen.
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>>107111331
Understandable, have a nice day.
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free cloud or deepsik pls
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>>107111498
NO! FUCK OFF LOCUST, WHEN WILL YOU LEARN??
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>>107111139
>Only 2 of those are me
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>>107111103
I would rather let the chinese read my logs than my own government because I can at least trust the chinese with not using them in threatening my livelihood just because I asked it what "dancing israelis" are.
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>>107111569
lol imagine being delusional enough to think chinks won't do that for even less
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86 posts from last thread were from the same person. That's over 20% of the thread.
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/tnum/107104456/deleted/deleted/
All deleted at the same time.
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>>107111663
this is the saddest thing I've seen this month
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>>107111663
Yeah, desufag goes crazy when you remove his link.
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dead aicg theory
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>>107111663
>starts at 04:22:39
>ends at 17:57:41
>13 hours of shitposting
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>>107111741
same thing happens in /hdg/
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>>107111734
hi, is this one from your pass or is it like the deleted ones? I'm just curious
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waiting for gemini 3
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>>107111663
insane
>>107111734
I was going to agree but he replied himself because he just couldnt fucking help himself.
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>>107111749
Next week.
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waiting for deepseek 4
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>>107111663
FF, also known as Claudefag or Whinefag, is well known for that. He's been doing it for years, by the way.
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>>107111752
Is >>107110022 >>107110024 desufag too?
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>>107111786
he probably meant that >>107111734 couldn't help but reply
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>>107111786
Yeah, sounds like him. He loves to false-flag.
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>>107111804
I see, right. The amount of deleted samefagging is astonishing, can't help but suspect it everywhere at this point.
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>>107111843
judging by the deleted posts, ff probably can't post pictures without the pass
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good temp for glm?
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post a picture to prove that you're a human being
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>>107110849
>>107110851
>>107110900
uhee~ ojisan's unbelievably hairy pussy...
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cftf
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>>107111884
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>>107111906
she's VERY hairy
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>>107111890
>>107111920
>no image
im nooooticing
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>>107111933
here's an image. the cutest archon
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>gacha slop
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>>107111663
What nopussy does to a MF
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>gachaKINO
forcing furina to strip naked and let me see her pussy is the best!
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First time having sex yesterday and she legit yelled "fucking ruin me, break me you stud". I hate llm and I hate woman so much
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>image bumping
LMAO dead thread, dead hobby
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>>107111663
it's almost like this autistic nigger treats his own spitebakes as his personal sandbox with toys and shit or something.
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>>107112023
he lyin
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>>107112033
Happens to normal threads too
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>>107111663
i don't know whether i should cringe or just laugh
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>>107112033
>spitebake
Go back to /vg/, shill.
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>>107112134
>*stomps on your sandcastle*
loser.
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Based FF
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this just gets sadder and sadder
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>>107112178
Sad hobby
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https://x.com/legit_api/status/1986066955191665043/photo/1
Gemini 3 preview confirmed for this month
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>>107112245
It's on vertex code source, and it wasn't released yet
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>>107112178
Sorry for being an NPC.
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anyone happen to have the screen or post id when ff showed he stalked all the generals on all boards?
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>>107112359
>>107112370
Bros we have proof gemini 3 is real, can you stop posting off-topic?
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>>107112370
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/105669271/#105672900
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>>107112387
nobody gives a shit about jeetmini you fucking unpaid google marketeer
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>>107112396
thanks
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>>107112399
>Saar here in India we have curry saar, why care about american steak
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Anyone have a good Claude JB for cunny? My current one stopped working
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>>107112459
Read >>107112387
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>>107112396
>using 4chan is... le bad
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>the 4chan "using" in question
>>107111663
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>>107112483
>>107112498
See >>107112387
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so is that guy the same one who spams hdg for hours on end whenever someone mentions nai?
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>>107112530
Yes.
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>>107112534
'grats to him i guess, that place is somehow worse than /here/
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Funny how /vg/ is the only thread that doesn't have this problem.
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based vg
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based falseflagger
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>>107111920
I don't care I just want a cftf
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>>107112530
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/image/Hq_ad6PiTBuWT8El_AbWbQ/
https://archiveofsins.com/_/search/image/Hq_ad6PiTBuWT8El_AbWbQ/
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>>107112589
is that really it? he sperged out over the mandatory gdpr do not sell my data box?
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goddamnit grok
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based desufag destroying this thread!
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was grok trained on 4chan or something, where the fuck is pulling this shit from
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>>107112605
You only have to ask for permission if you track people and sell their data.
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grok is slop btw
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>>107112543
slowburn vhads wonned
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>>107112635
they added that box after they switched from paddle to chargebee (unironically a jeet payment processor) so maybe it's their fault
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Does anyone know why NovelAI needs multiple analytics providers? Clouflare, Google, PostHog, and Sentry.
Weren't they supposed to care about privacy?
Why did they remove all the mentions of privacy and encryption from their landing page?
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the anti-NAI guy is an insane schizo who acts like NAI killed his dog, he thinks that chatgpt's image gen is better than NAI's because it can do text and shit, ignoring that OpenAI tries to block anything remotely NSFW
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>>107112696
>who acts like NAI killed his dog
They would if they could.
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>>107112682
>>107112696
Fuck off
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ah he's back.
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NAI killed my doll.
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>>107112682
don't care, have been paying them €300 a year for the past 3 years and i will continue to do so, especially now with the new glm and future glm finetunes
>>107112696
nai has been able to do text for a while
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Can someone bake, this thread is already ruined with nai shills and anti-nai
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unlike nai, Anthropic and ESPECIALLY Google never, EVER collect ANY kind of personal data whatsoever and they DO NOT sell it
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I'm so excited for gemini 3 bwos
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>>107104456
>>107104456
>>107104456
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>>107112696
NAI is basically a paid local model. Except locally you can do video, realistic gens, and use the edit models. It's one generation behind compared to ChatGPT and Gemini.
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>he thinks nai is still on SD1.4
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>>107112748
Yeah, they don't. They don't even have any. I pay with crypto and use OR's API through Tor.
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>>107112808
>i use the honeypot software
LMAAAAOOOO GET A LOAD OF THIS GUY
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Janny, are you okay?
I havent seen a user shit up a thread so bad since the pedophile spam.
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>>107112822
>nooooooo my VPN's IP (which doesn't store logs) is going to leak with Tor!!!!
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lmarena script fix spoonfeed here >>>/mlp/42771277
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>>107112900
I'm being serious, what's the fucking point of feeding ungrateful locusts? The fix is so easy that it should be the gatekeep
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would be nice if aboba still had gpt, nigga!

I walk around like that nigga, finger on the trigger
If a nigga want some smoke, I let this choppa eat his liver (Boom)
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Who cares? Gemini 3 this MONTH.
LOCUSTS WILL FEAST
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>>107112915
i wanted to
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>>107112929
TRVKE
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>>107112929
Github gemini keys are being revoked, there won't be a free tier for gemini 3. Your honest reaction?
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>>107112956
I can either pay or have it free myself so I wouldn't care.
It would be kind of funny tbdesu.
But they will have a free tier.
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>>107112956
my honest reaction is gemini is pants brev
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Question anons. What are the best tools/LLMs/frontends for article writing locally? I like doing research manually and I even draft my reasoning manually, but actually writing the article itself feels grating sometimes. I know LLMs hallucinate a shit-ton and are questionable at reasoning, but if I gave it a good step-by-step summary of my reasoning, would there be any good local AI chatbot that could transform that into something that is sufficiently well-written? Obviously I'd check it and edit it manually afterwards, I'm just looking to streamline my process.
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>>107112562
>/vg/ has a good tranny thread about paypigs and their dickgirl character cards
Okay why don't you post there?
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>>107112986
>sufficiently well-written
depends entirely on what you think counts as sufficiently well-written
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why are so many gemini keys revoked whats going on
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>>107113024
I'm using a script to get them banned. Yes, before you ask, my big fat brown belly is jiggling at this
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>>107113024
There's a major model release soon. They are cracking down in preparation.
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>>107113030
>my big fat brown belly is jiggling at this
proof?
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>>107113024
use case for scraped keys when the model is free?
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>>107113008
Honestly, just something coherent and that flows well. Basically the step between the arguments I present in a messier form and an actual draft, I basically want something that refines the way I say shit, how I connect stuff, maybe it notices certain gaps I could fill in and things like that.
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>>107113077
being able to use it without being tied to a google account you made
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>>107113024
get a job instead of shoplifting a fucking chatbot. do you have any self respect?
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>>107113104
just stop fucking children?????
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>>107112900
i dont think the lmarena script works on termux so it gatekept me already
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>>107113104
Who cares? Unless you're a cunnytard.
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>>107113104
nta but google accounts are free
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>>107113112
I'm not a pedo. I have a vore fetish and I really don't want anything of that connected back to me ever.
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>>107113112
i dont do cunny
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>>107112986
Coding agents can actually work pretty well for this kind of thing, where you need it to write something and maintain notes in different files and such. I personally use Roo Code for writing as well as coding, with a custom mode for the former, but other agents could work as well.
If you want more of a chat interface, Open WebUI is a simple one that's pretty easy to setup.
Your real problem is the 'locally' bit, because the models that can actually run on consumer hardware aren't capable of much.
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>>107113125
same
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>>107112900
still gives an error when connecting the browser so whatever
i'll just wait for gemini
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>>107112963
Free for enterprise users or businesses only.
Bet
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>>107113030
how is that even possible none of the ai companies have an option to report leaked keys
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lmarena fix
catbox 57gdir
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>gatekept by the file extension
man im retarded
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>>107113503
txt
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>>107113511
tenkyuu
does the server part of the script run on termux? i tried asking the ponies yesterday and they didnt answer
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>>107113551
he doesn't know, he just took it from them lol
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>>107113551
No, as far as I can tell. One of the dependencies won't install.
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Google is your friend.
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Google has been useless.
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Google will save us with Gemini 3
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>>107113690
>them
The script is from the chinese.
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>>107113714
>>107113747
>>107113756
Google this, Google that... OpenAI adult mode is going to drop any day now now that it is needed for their new browser to not be a complete joke
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Will Gemini 3 final form be better or worse than lithium?
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>>107113800
Why would anything good happen? It'll be worse.
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>>107113804
>Why would anything good happen?
Because we suffered enough.
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G3mini will save the hobby
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>>107112900
Thank you Anon, I really appreciate it.
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>>107113847
People thought things would get better after the AI Dungeon exodus. People thought things would get better after the character ai exodus. We're still sitting here waiting for it years later
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hi :)
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>>107111083

they look after that indian dont stare too long
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>>107113800
Lithium was great, if it's of the same quality I will be quite pleased.
>>107113863
Man AiDungeon was amazing, I wonder if we look back at it so fondly because it was one of first wildly available model and we basically created all of this due to it.
>>107113884
Hey bro
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>>107111083
claude and gemini 3
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>>107113901
IMO it was because the AI was so incoherent you could actually go on short journeys from topic to topic. No rejections, no filters, but always a dream state impermanence to everything. If you didn't mention the room you were in it could be forgotten just like that in favor of whatever else the AI had in mind. I dunno, look at the screenshots people saved.

Oh also, the CYOA finetune was crazy and would often actively go against you. Sharp pain memes aside, that alone is a unique quality we haven't really seen since.
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>>107113942
That's one thing I really miss. Current models are all too submissive and will more or less just follow the road you're leading it on while AiDungeon used to genuinely fight you and throw obstacles in your way. I had lots of bad ends and really unexpected routes for roleplay. Lithium and GLM 4.6 seem to be a bit more like that, they didn't just mollify me and let everything go my way but not as rough as AiD did.
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>>107113959
>nightmare difficulty: try surviving more than 10 inputs on the detective prompt
AI Dungeon was a lot more game-y than we have now just by nature of being able to lose at all. I've tried to capture the same thing with a few bots, but it's still somewhat at the consent of the user to lose.
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>>107113979
Detective prompt was funny as fuck.
90% chance to be shot in the back after your first input.
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Where's the FUCKING anchor?
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>>107114083
We don't need bots. This isn't the thread for that.
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>>107111663
>jew previous shill got deleted at the exact same time as all the posts made by the resident schizo shitposter
how curious
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GEMini 3
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>>107114093
>/aicg/ - AI Chatbot General
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>>107114137
it just means a mod woke up and did select all delete ban for the /g/ mod queue
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>>107114321
Looks like the old rule just keeps on being relevant. OP is and forever will be a faggot.
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>>107114083
>>107114546
The anchor got deleted because it was loli feet with pantsu shot.
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What do i need for a good sonnet 4.5 prompt nowadays? I'm still using the one i made for sonnet 4. Its good, but i need a change in scenery.
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>>107114573
how the fuck is that nsfw, it's just feet
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>>107114083
Shouldn't have reported it retard.
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>Have been enjoying Clode
>Heard a lot of praise to GLM
Is GLM 4.6 really THAT amazing? Nonbiased anons please give me your opinions
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>>107114774
It's mid. Try it yourself.
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>>107114774
I found it fun. It's less compliant, so you'll get more pushback on prompts. For example, I play a rogue kind of character and try to calm a scared girl on a battlefield. Most other models will just make it work, she'll calm down. GLM and Lithium will both stick to her persona as a scared and scarred girl, not really calming down.
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>>107110977
Remember, at the time Sama was preparing to release O3 at $150 output tokens so he started seething that cheap deepseek cannot be used by American paypigs.
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>>107111013
This shit will really go down in history.
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>>107114809
>GLM is as good as Lithium
Buy an ad.
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>>107114830
No, I meant that it's similar in not just going along with what you write but sticks more to the description of the persona and a reasonable answer.

I haven't been able to test Lithium enough to make comments about it's quality but I thought it was really good.
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>>107111331
Man I've really been going down memory lane since the 10 year anniversary of gamergate is coming up. It was a crazy time back then.
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Theres hundreds of resources and examples for making a character card for the model to play as, but are there any for writing a player card? There doesn't need to be nearly as much information on it, but i'm not sure how much is neccesary and what is fat that needs trimming.
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>>107114842
The only reason you're putting GLM and Lithium in the same sentence is to give the wrong impression that they're in the same tier. It's a manipulation tactic. Same reason the original anon thinks it's amazing at all. Pure spam.
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>>107111599
It's not that they won't, it's that they have 1 billion of their own people to spy on. (You) are the least of their problems.
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>>107114872
Not really, I don't have any stakes in this and just wanted to give him another model that works well in non fluff scenarios that require the AI to be a bit less submissive.

I made no comment on quality, only the ability to push back a bit. Please don't be that hostile and see me as some cooperate spy or Indian. I'm just an Anon.
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>>107111091
It was, and will always be, about selling keys to scrapelets. Claude is mid at best and did some things good but others worse. Slopus 3 was only good because there was nothing to compare it to, and even then sonnet 3.5 was better at staying in character. Anthropic cucked and sold slopus to palantir but the shills keep shilling so they can sell "access" (five days a month for 10 hours at most a day).

Chinese century (unless G3mini is actually good).
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>>107114870
I have never written anything more than "Anon is a human male". If my character needs any more detail, I'll develop it through the roleplay.
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>>107114774
No it's very sloppy and feels like Gemini with less filters (gemini is dogshit)
The only decent chinkmodel I've tried is Kimi. Feels much more like opus 3 in terms of creativity, has better swipe variety than all sonnet models but suffers from acute retardation, as with all these chink models
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>>107114927
I don't self insert so i'm frequently making random people and creatures and peoplecreatures.
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>>107114893
And? Who cares if you "technically didn't lie". The anon is already half-brainwashed. Keep putting together GLM and Lithium and he will keep believing that they must be the best because he kept hearing about them together. But only one of these was actually good, the other one is only held together with spam.
No one honest would put them together in the same sentence. Giving the wrong impression is the goal here.
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>>107114870
I have my (real) name, my height, age and what I wear. One for modern day and one for medieval roleplay.
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>>107112543
Soon brothers. All of Gemini's problems will be solved soon. We wonned.
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>>107114946
The only impression I wanted to give is that both push back harder against you being a God in the roleplay and make it more realistic. Yes, they both do that in a similar way and can be said in the same sentence.

You're free to add about the improved quality you get with Lithium, I'd even agree as I've really liked it. Just don't get too deluded and think I'm some misinformation Agent, I don't get paid. I'm a neet Anon who likes AI and not (((them))).
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>>107114943
Fair enough. That said, my blankslate method still works when I want to play a not-me character, I just have him act differently. I tend to be more interested in the character I'm interacting with and build around that though, so I don't know if that'd work for you.
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>>107114826
>HE ANGRILY SMASHED THE KEYBOARD
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>>107112842
>Janny, are you okay?
Janny just got rehired. Give him some time.
>pedophile spam.
You mean the one that happens every three days?
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>>107114998
100% bullshit. You're responding to a post asking "if it's really THAT amazing". A post skeptical of the spam. And what you do? Did you tell him to be skeptical? That it was alright? That he should build his own opinion? No. You instead made up an example and associated it with what most people consider the best model.
The intention was to keep him in the hype. And who cares about that other than shills? Buy a fucking ad.
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>slopusjeet's samefagging posts in the old thread get deleted
>thread is now usable and active
Really makes you think...
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>>107115086
>Nonbiased anons please give me your opinions
>Give opinion
>"Noooo I don't like how you write, you put them in the same sentence meaning that it's equally good"
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>>107115086
You lost. Give up already.
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>>107115127
>GLM barely got attention for 2 months
>Now it's attached to NAI's brand and I see spam telling me it's amazing
>Should I believe it?
>"Yes"
You're a shill.
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>>107115127
You're talking to a known retard. He'll call you a shill until the end.
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>>107115153
You mean I can have both the best image generator and the incredible GLM with NAI?
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>>107115153
>I'm doing it for free
I'm roping bros...

In all seriousness, I like it's ability to give pushback. You're free correct me about it's quality Anon, I don't get paid for my opinons, I'm just an AI enjoyer.
>>107115159
That's fine, at least he's not rude or mean about it.
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>>107115183
Yeah, see: >>>/mlp/42758046
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>Page 6
What?
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Are there any local frontends by now that support multiple player characters? If you want to have two "protagonists" for taking turns
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>>107114927
No hair or eye color? No age either?
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>>107111663
>All deleted at the same time
this is false, because "lost a penis award" was deleted much long before, also jew
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>>107110874
If its projected to replace most human workers surely it can at least chat better than it does now.
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>>107112956
By free tier you mean no ai studio? So will it be priced more than 2.5 on OR as well? That would suck.
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>>107115617
I think I have a couple personas where I have hair or eye color described when I want to play a specific character, but I generally don't consider it important. I find when I do define them, I get endless "She stares into Anon's blue eyes and runs her fingers through his brown hair". Age is one of the first things I introduce through roleplay, usually through some sort of context clue. Makes the improv more interesting. The one issue I do come across is that since I often forget to define clothing, the bot just makes assumptions about what my character is wearing that I don't always agree with, but that's on me and not hard to solve.
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>>107113125
Number of times google has shamed people publicly for their non-illegal fetishes? I think they'd not do that.
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>>107115692
Your post is exactly what I was thinking about when I read his comment. Still, he's right. It's not AGI, not even close, nor can it write very well and yet it's projected to replace huge swaths of businesses. That either says something about the people working there, or is the biggest economic gamble in human history.
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>>107115790
I was baiting, it's probably going to have a free tier, and by the leaks in vertex looks to be cheaper than 2.5 pro. Iirc, $1 input and $8 output/M tokens <200K context
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>>107115916
Where did you see the price?
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>160 messages in and I just noticed that the model has been using “ and ” while I was using just "
Fuck my nigger life, no wonder the output got progressively worse. The fact that the browser is treating all three as the same symbol certainly didn't help either.
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>>107116089
/[“”]/g
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>>107115803
>Number of times google has shamed people publicly for their non-illegal fetishes
what?
anyways can a fetish be illegal, unless you believe in thoughtcrime. it's the manifestation of the fetish into reality that might be illegal.
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>>107116294
A DRAWING OF WHAT?
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>>107116313
A fictional character. Now post the DBZ image, nigger. I know your fingers are itching.
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/ss/ is no more...........
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>>107116294
The point is unless they think you need to be reported for something they're not telling people what shit you're RPing. I think it'd be big news if they were revealing shit about people randomly.
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>>107116313
have you considered that a drawing is a manifestation of a thought, and not the thought itself?
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>>107116323
I only have one DBZ image on my drive and it's hardly appropriate for the situation, but since you're asking...
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>>107116333
have you considered that text is a manifestation of a thought, and not the thought itself?
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>>107116409
why yes, but in America, your speech enjoys great protection.
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>>107112929
might unironically be in two weeks since everything is getting deprecated on the 18th
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>>107116313
How old where the kids in Stephen Kings IT, a 1986 new york times bestseller which sold over 800,000 hardcover copies?
And if im correct, they had a orgy, yes?
Cool, its great weve established your double standard. Either that, or your complete lack of literacy or ability to differentiate fiction from reality.

>>107116328
Ive noticed the only kinds of prompts that get reported are the kind where your explicitly asking how to harm real children. Asking how to is a big no-no.
Its why we have CSAM filters anyways, because unfortunately pedoniggers ruin things so a loli bot gets the same treatment as CSAM.
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>dont have to care about filterslop because my fetish is entirely nonsexual
my record is still flawless
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>>107111013
All dudes want a girl not just indians
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>>107110849
>check bot sites
>chub
>front page is entire worlds or emo girls
>risuai
>front page is korean femboys
>char-archive
>thought it was more koreans and slop before I realized its just scraping the above two
>anchorhold
>surprising variety, though not my taste
Seriously though what the fuck is up with the sheer amount of korean cards
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>>107116554
inflation?
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>>107116563
Anon... Risudev is Korean, the same goes for his target audience.
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>>107116522
This wasn't my point with the qualification about reporting I made, my point was not wanting to use a google account because people will find out you're into 'vore' in this case is pointless, they're not going to announce it to everyone.
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>>107116570
no
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>>107116554
>fetish is entirely nonsexual
Im gonna guess...
>sizefag
>inflation
Everything else dives into sexuality too much, in which case, your lying.
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>>107116587
Oh. Well.
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>>107116600
wrong its inanimate tf
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>>107116598
I agree.
>google hacked
>Logs leaked
>10 terabytes of raw roleplay text
>absolutely no identifiable information included, because its pointless data to AI training for chats
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>>107116600
you have a limited imagination
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_paraphilias
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>>107116620
bet he cant rotate the apple either
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>>107116619
besides. If Google were to get hacked on that level, everyone would have way bigger problems than whatever the fuck they did with Gemini
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where are my vanillachads
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>>107116657
AI is too dumb to have a real connection with.
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>>107116619
>>107116651
Be real, no major corporation is ever punished for data breaches. Especially not in any meaningful way that causes them to rethink security structures.
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>>107116666
I never said corpos would face justice. I said people would be fucked
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>>107116313
>>107116323
>>107116333
>>107116522
If loli is not pedo, nude solo male is not /y/ :^)
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>>107116666
calm down, hypersatan
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>>107116725
>what are greco roman statues
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>>107116725
Uh... correct?
A nude solo female isn't yuri either, you need two of them for that.
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>>107116739
Yaoi of course.
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>>107116746
newfag
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>>107116657
Kissing and handholding goes so far, but it also takes a long time to set up the sex scene so I have to fap to more raunchy stuff if I want to fap each day.
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>>107116757
>>>/cm/
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>>107116657
How vanilla are we talking about?
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>>107116792
Why did you link to a blue board when we're talking about nudity? How new are you?
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>>107114083
You are now the anchor because you have the word.
>Haruna
Gourmet, epicurean, terrorist, absolute Giga Stacy. She will link their arms together, hold hands in public and even feed him meals. She wants the others to see how lovey-dovey she is with Sensei.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/kurodate-haruna-non-ai-04442926b20d
https://files.catbox.moe/mhrgiu.png

>Akari
Competitive eater, trickster, sly young woman. Banned from all-you-can-eat buffets, absolute champion of any eating competition. Not even automatic dispenser bots can make food faster than she can eat, truly a fearsome woman. Also she doesn't get fat! If you're an architect, you'll have to wait for Izumi.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/wanibuchi-akari-non-ai-57de3ae8c495
https://files.catbox.moe/l7ma5e.png

>Fuuka
Cook, cafeteria manager, makes meals for all students in Gehenna. Absolute wife material, she loves it when people like her food and nobody likes it more than Sensei. When the two hang out together, everyone thinks she is his young wife.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/aikiyo-fuuka-non-ai-a2a7cda01a3c
https://files.catbox.moe/w8saut.png

>Yuuka
The starter student, your calculator nagging wife. Being romantic with students is bad, Sensei! Unless it's with me...
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/hayase-yuuka-non-ai-c27db418b47d
https://files.catbox.moe/aizb9w.png

>Koyuki
Ungovernable brat with genius math skills, she can't even understand how fucking amazing she is. Constant source of trouble for Seminar. Frequently incarcerated.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/kurosaki-koyuki-non-ai-ec9aa44854f4
https://files.catbox.moe/jfpssj.png

I make quality, canonical Blue Archive character cards. No wiki copy-pasted definitions or AI made text, it's all based on canon in-game events.
More buruaka and several OC characters: https://chub.ai/users/hairpullguy
And here's the Rentry if you want to bypass chub to email me: rentry.org/hairpullbots
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>>107116880
>I make quality
No you don't.
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>>107116880
You make quality.
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>>107116880
another shitty bot
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>>107116880
another great bot, thanks
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>>107116911
>>107116959
>>107116880
samefag
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I'm not here to play games. I just want to post chatbots and maybe download chatbots other people made.
Newfags don't know the simplest rules. If you have nothing to contribute, you just lurk.
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>>107117010
go post your shitty slop on vg, there you will get the validation you so crave
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>>107117041
They destroyed him actually
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>>107116880
sex with children
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>>107116901
>>107116975
>>107117041
>>107117060
samebrap
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Now the actual avatarfag posting for validation won't even get a (You). What a strange general.
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>>107117132
Miku-chan's pits...
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haven't gooned since october 31st, now I am feeling the withdrawals in my brain. :(
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>>107110849
https://rentry.org/szer4

Updated the preset.
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>>107117249
Is this a general use prompt for Gemini? Or is it for RPG roleplays only?
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>>107117203
Don't you worry, little bro. I will make sure to jerk off twice as much so you won't have to.
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Lads, give me your best advice for keeping gemini hardcore in character. I'm fucking sick of RPing with gemini in a wig.
>inb4 use opus
Claude is even worse about this.
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>>107117256
General use.
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LMAO
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>>107117267
good for you anon, thank you for the moral support, though the "little bro" is very gay it at least shows me you aren't lying.
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>>107117302
Only zoomoids use retarded lingo such as gooning, so "little bro" is quite appropriate.
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>>107117275
Wait for Lithium to release, unironically. Nov 18.
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>>107117077
cftf?
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>>107117275
It's very difficult because assistant AIs never want to NOT go along with what you want. Making characters that say no is not trivial.
Which is why CAI is still the Holy Grail in oldfag's minds. Even if it it had no context and terrible output, you could butter up a character for 8 hours and they still wouldn't put out for you.
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>>107117319
But my heart is yearny *now*

>>107117401
It's not even the agreeableness per-se, it's how the characters always collapse into these flat caricatures. Some disagreeable girlboss who needs to challenge you on everything or a limp dispirited thing that spams ellipses or the worst, the fucking robot. Good character definitions help, but eventually you need to spend more and more time wrangling it to give you nuance, but deep into the RP is precisely when you *don't* want to be wrangling, since you've presumably got something interesting going that gemini summarily shits on.
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>>107117530
What you described is my issue too and I'm actually in the process of reworking my gemini preset right now. It's also why I said wait for G3mini in the hopes that it gets fixed. As much as I've enjoyed gemini's outputs lately, jumping between girlboss that beats you up without trying and depressed wimp that sits quietly every time there's drama is getting annoying. Anon said "gemini either hates you or hates char and nothing else in between" and he was absolutely right.
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>>107117517
Just let AI use the em dashes, man. They're not that bad.
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>>107117530
>characters always collapse into these flat caricatures
in my experience its also impossible to prompt your way out of it, you can tell gemini point blank to stop talking a certain way and it will still continue to do so. the most annoying one for me is a smart character who cannot stop talking like an autist and will refer to everything like it were a science experiment
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I've not done this shit for 2 years. Anyone wanna fill me in?

Questions that I have:
>Is silly still the best frontend?
>Are local models with gaming GPU yet even close to the quality of cloud models?
>What are the best cloud models? (is Claude still king?)
>What is the best model you can use as a f2p user?
>How good are the newer cloud models at rejecting "bad" input? Aka do jailbreaks still work and are they even more convoluted than year or two ago?
>Do some users still host proxies for others to use?
>If no proxy hosting, what is a good alternative, where you don't have to give your details to the AI companies?

Thank you for any answers
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>>107117623
>Is silly still the best frontend?
yes
>Are local models with gaming GPU yet even close to the quality of cloud models?
no
>What are the best cloud models? (is Claude still king?)
Claude Sonnet 4.5 is the best model currently, but Deepseek, Gemini and GLM are also pretty good. Don't even bother with GPT.
>What is the best model you can use as a f2p user?
Gemini (through Google, you can make multiple keys on one account if you make multiple projects), and Deepseek through OpenRouter: https://rentry.org/Sukino-Findings#free-providers
Or just use a proxy.
>How good are the newer cloud models at rejecting "bad" input? Aka do jailbreaks still work and are they even more convoluted than year or two ago?
Gemini can't do loli sometimes, that's about it.
>Do some users still host proxies for others to use?
yes, search the archives
>If no proxy hosting, what is a good alternative, where you don't have to give your details to the AI companies?
free openrouter probably, just use a proxy though
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>>107117623
>yes
>yes, compared to the cloud models of 2 years ago, no compared to the cloud models of today.
>still a matter of taste between GPT (if you can jb it without lobotomizing) & Claude, with Gemini now also tied.
>Gemini, hands down.
>better, but depends on the model & settings. GPT is a lot harder now, while both Claude and Gemini are piss easy if you bother to learn how their filters work and turn off Gemini's external classifiers.
>yes, but they're almost extinct unless you're a discord tranny.
>dunno/dontcar.
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>>107117615
>you can tell gemini point blank to stop talking a certain way and it will still continue to do so
If you're talking about the robot thing, I had that experience too, but gemini understood how to do kuudere characters in a character creator card. It could write correct dialogue and understood what not to do so I still feel like the problem is prompting related.
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>>107117615
I have that same issue, it wants characters to be overly analytic. It'll admit to it but not fix it.



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