File: 1762366901513489.jpg (934 KB, 2312x3000)

934 KB JPG

>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Omissions
-9800X3D: ~10% improvement in gaming over a 7800X3D (which is still in production)
-9060xt 16gb: Performance variable compared to 5060ti, consider cheaper second hand options like the 3080
-9070: Currently more expensive than the 5070
-"Futureproofing": Nvidia gpus in general have been aging better than Radeon regardless of vram or marginal differences in raw performance

Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.

Pic:
>>107113630
>>107114262

Previous:
>>107109380

Am i crazy or is there way fewer options for monitors at 32" than 27"

>>107114698
the jew fear the loli

Why has cunny posting become so in vogue?

File: Arch Pikachu.png (318 KB, 400x457)

318 KB PNG

Didn't see a new thread had been made. If I want to get more ram for my desktop, does the timing have to be the same? Ideally I'd just get the exact same model, but I'm trying to get some DDR4 stuff from marketplace.

>>107114721
Overall the current situation with most 4k monitors is kind of fucked

File: question.png (158 KB, 585x524)

158 KB PNG

When are ram prices going to come down?

>>107114772
If the price is right you can almost universally make it work.

>>107114799
No.

>>107114808
But if I'm worried about stability, I should make sure the timings work? I don't really know anything about RAM timing. I know that if I get some slower RAM, everything will just run at the slower speed, but that's about it.

>>107114799
When you stop displeasing the Jewish-Christian version of God

>>107114557
>>107114498
Temtped to just disassemble that fan if possible, and throw the plastic pieces from the case into the bin to scrub it all off and hose it down with water from the sink. Same with the small metal bits, hopefully it wont corrode cause we have iron rich water.

As for the case its self, I am tempted at this point to also take the risk and just hose it down with a microphone in the tub or outside.

File: Untitled.jpg (7 KB, 299x168)

7 KB JPG

>>107114821
>But if I'm worried about stability
Just make it stable with shittier timings

Thoughts on vertical mouse? Should I get one? Would it be good for gaming? I mean casual and single player games not multiplayer games.

>>107114821
>But if I'm worried about stability, I should make sure the timings work?
you can run a stress test overnight
>I know that if I get some slower RAM, everything will just run at the slower speed, but that's about it
XMP timings are up to your BIOS
there's no telling what it will do if you have mixed kits with different XMP profiles

platform? current kit?

>>107114889
Fairly certain my XMP profile is literally just stock. As for the current RAM sticks, it's a pair of 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3600C.

File: Like the sheep.png (31 KB, 642x138)

31 KB PNG

CUT MY MOTHERBOARD IN TWO PIECES

I got my CoolerMaster™ HAF™ 922 boomer gamer PC case for 15+ years now. Simply cannot be beat.

File: 1747208490233.png (65 KB, 378x357)

65 KB PNG

>>107114944
>It's the cost of a motherboard or a CPU
>'Muh Black Friday goin to discount these'

>>107114944
on the flipside i just sold my 5800x3d and ddr4 for more money than i bought it

>>107114799
>ram prices going down
haha good one dude.
they will stay where they're for the next like 2-3 years.

9800x3ds are 366€ on Ali for Europeans
100€ cheaper then retail here

>MSI QD-OLED monitor gets new firmware update
>EOTF boost mode
>Finally it might be worth not using True Black 400 anymore!
>Enable it
>Now it's really bright now it isn't, I make the window smaller and suddenly it's dark, I make the window smaller and now it's bright
What the fuck is this?

>>107115006
>9800x3ds are 366€ on Ali for Europeans
link
i never bought anything off ali or temu or whatever im curious

>>107114799
>Poorfag it up and go for 32gb even though times are fine
>Now complain it's expensive
You get what you fucking deserve.jpg
Always learn from History and consoom flash in cheap times
The cartels will happen, the flood will happen, tube burned down factory will happen
It's cyclical
Now we're fucked again

File: IMG_20251105_204229.jpg (1.76 MB, 4000x2252)

1.76 MB JPG

>>107114975
>>107114975
They really dont build them like they used to anymore. I bet that if I fabricate my own flat steel panels, make a wooden or pvc front panel of my own, this thing could look amazingly minimalist as a business black box or a comfy white and beige box. Stripped down it almost reminds me of those big old AT cases in a way.

>>107115023
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005009236373492.html

>>107114982
I feel like a lot of people are waiting for Black Friday, and it's just going to be out of stock chaos and you're going to just less than what you hoped.

File: 1745263430196916.jpg (325 KB, 960x768)

325 KB JPG

>>107115051
TIL

File: gem alert.png (74 KB, 520x749)

74 KB PNG

gem alert!
https://old.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/1op58h0/motherboard_gigabyte_b650m_gaming_plus_wifi_team/

I need a case that has excellent thermals (especially for the GPU), noise, and dust filtration. I do not care about size and price, if anything it needs to be bigger. Yes, it's for a 5090, so if it has a fire alarm that would also be good.

>>107115010
Just OLED things, peak brightness depends on how much white content is on the screen.
It's not even a bad idea in principle, but when it's too aggressive it becomes noticeable and distracting.

>>107115051
appears as 391 for me in EU
i wonder if im missing some coupons or whatever
gonna check around but i dont see myself buying that kind of shit from here
Its probably from the same place as buying OEM/Tray off amazon... but still
ty anon

>>107115090
There Is a -50€ code right there

>>107115010
>What the fuck is this?
Buy an oled tv

did you know that when you pair zen with hbm3 it absolutely murders everything
https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1589197-benchmarking-the-amd-epyc-9v64h-azure-hbv5-s-custom-amd-cpu-with-hbm3

?

>>107115006
I bought a cpu last month and never arrived, now I'm down 200€ on my build

>>107115089
The issue is that it's inconsistent. With Peak 1000 nits it's sort of linear, the smaller bright areas are the more brightness they get and ABL is aggressive but it's predictable.
With this what I'm saying is that with EOTF boost, it goes somewhat bright on fullscreen, then as you reduce the window it goes darker until reaching 25% where it's really dim, then it goes brighter as you reduce it more, it makes no sense. It also "blinks" sometimes if the same level of brightness is shown for a little while. This shit is buggy.

>>107115010
This is because Samsung Display has the final say on ABL, MSI devised a janky workaround.

Anons, I want to argue about PC parts. Can someone start some bullshit argument while leveling racial epithets at me and I’ll take the other side?

>>107115088
>noise
>thermals
>dust filtration
Pick 2

>>107115138
memory bandwidth is king for cpus and gpus

>>107114799
ddr6 will fix this

>>107115170
AMD should have stuck to PGA instead of switching to LGA, you'd have to be a kike to disagree.

>>107115170
It's hard to go back to Nvidia's muted colours after enjoying AMD's wider gamut.

>>107115170
Nvidia drivers still suck shit on Windows 11 and Linux today.

>>107115170
Given the choice between an Ender 3 and Bambu A1 Mini, I'd go for the Ender so I can learn to print properly.

>>107115242
Stupid Americans with their sausage fingers are more likely to drop a CPU than a motherboard and with how much you get raped buying a mobo these days, I’d probably rather buy a new CPU in most cases.

>>107115248
>still using windows xp like a thirdworlder
fucking bullshit that hasn't been true since maxwell gen at least. Enjoy your MPO sutters lol.

>>107115253
At least they fucking have drivers. AMD can't even decide if they want to support their shit or not. It's neat that poorfags can still run their rx480 on loonix put what a sad state of affairs that RDNA2/3 can't even compete with Turing of all things.

>>107115088
Fractal Torrent is very good at keeping things cool. I assume there might be new cases that might shave a degree or two off of the max-load temperature, but you'd have to dig around the GamersNexus case reviews to see. I'm biased because I have a Fractal Torrent, but I can confirm that it's kinda load under load, but does in fact keep things cool, and cleaning the mesh grills is incredibly easy to do.

File: IMG_20251105_211340.jpg (2.22 MB, 2252x4000)

2.22 MB JPG

Alright, in you go. Tub needs scrubbing anyway, I think I can afford tobacco gunk in addition to it. I better dry it quickly afterwards so it does not rust.

>>107115352
Nvidia drivers still suck shit on Windows and Linux and isn't even supported by Mac. It's not for consumers it's for datacenter jits.

>>107115088
>>107115352 here, meant to say it's *loud under load. Keeps things cool though.

Its crazy that not even my 5070ti can run modern games properly (at 4k, but still).

>>107115006
Fuck off, it's a full £100 more which is crazy for Ali sloppa

>>107114989
learn what inflation means, you stupid muttnigger

>>107115494
Oh, that's why I felt weird watching cartoons as a kid.

Can anyone tell me why the 1440p monitor I bought was frying my eyeballs? I bought it after upgrading my graphics card to one that didn't have a DVI port which is what my old ass 1080p monitor uses, but I had to stop using it because it was literally hurting my eyes and after stopping I'm fairly certain my eyesight has become worse. Switching back to my old ass 60hz 1080p monitor fixed the problem (I got an adapter cable). I don't know what about the monitor is relevant, so here's the name thing on Amazon where I bought it: "MSI QHD Rapid-IPS Quantum DOT Gaming Non-Glare Super Narrow Bezel 1ms 2560 x 1440 165Hz Refresh Rate Adjustable Arm G-Sync Compatible 27” Gaming Monitor (Optix MAG274QRF-QD)"

>>107115456
turn on dlss you retard, playing games without an upscale is dead

>>107115375
Clean your tub after you are finished with the side panel

>>107115524
I bought a fucking $800 graphics card, I should be able to play with DLAA. It's insane that only one card in the entire market (because the 5080 is almost the same) is able to use that setting effectively.

>>107114721
32" is veering way into TV territory and definitely not worth it unless you're going for 4k.

>>107114799
When the ai bubble pops and ai companies stop buying up all the stock for their environment-raping datacenters that provide zero value to any human being.

Cleaning a metal 5.25" drive sled under the microphone makes a really cool sound. Like a weird train rolling.

>>107115456
4k is a fucking meme resolution even for every xx90 level card out there. You're using a 1080p, MAYBE 1440p at best card in the wrong way.

>hit a couple cpu bottlenecks with the old 12400f lately
>think of upgrading to a 9800x3d
>performance gains are marginal other than the .1% lows, even in the cpu limited games
Damn, I know the lows make a ton of difference in smoothness, but I dont want to spend that kind of money on such a minor upgrade. I'm still on DDR4, too. Fuck modern gaming.

Building a kids PC, budget is £300 - best I've come up with is a Ryzen and an old GTX 1080.
Whilst it's not perfect it's a lot better than the original PC being picked with a 3rd gen i5 and a GT 730

with all the ram shit going on.
can you mix
>2x 32gb corsair 5200mhz Vengeance
>2x 32gb corsair 5200mhz Dominator
without any stability issues?

>>107115676
Should say this is for a friend's kid
Mine would get spoilt a bit more

>>107115693
"Probably".

>>107115676
>>107115695
Holy I should stop phone fagging a Ryzen 3600

>>107115712
a 3600 and GTX 1080 is more than enough for anyone

>>107115438
Looks like it is indeed the simplest choice.

give it to me straight I need 128gb of DDR4 RAM for server autism. Scrape together something on EBAY for ~350USD, or wait for retail sales?

Something tells me black friday won't be a savior.

>>107115733
>or wait for retail sales?
prices are not going down any time soon.
so waiting will only make it worse
>They've committed to buying like 60% of the world's manufacturing capacity for the next 3-5 years.

do you guys think I'll be able to get a decent deal on a 5070ti on black friday or what

>>107115787
yes
but not much better than today

File: 1740385669915491.jpg (1.14 MB, 2312x3000)

1.14 MB JPG

>>107114698
Censorship? Disgraceful

im thinking of upgrading to an i9-14900KS, are there any other options to concider?

>>107115787
i imagine some of the more expensive models will get a smallish discount
dont expect the cheaper models to budge a cent

>>107115787
Depends on where you live but i doubt it . if you can find a decent model close to msrp i would just buy it,

>>107114698
lmao
why would do this shitty photoshop job instead of just cropping it? lol

>>107115814
thanks gents, one final retard question, what would be considered a good model?

>>107115809
no that's simply the best cpu for twinkertrannies

File: IMG_20251105_220232.jpg (2.46 MB, 2252x4000)

2.46 MB JPG

Fuck it, we're going in and we're going in hard. I can't remove the tooless drive locks without damaging them right now, I'll just have to check on the springs inside after I stop this thing from being a huge stinkbox.

>>107115787
black friday no longer gets you any discounts in my experience

>>107115851
Leave it outside in the sun. All the bacteria that's stinking it should die in a couple hours.

>>107115849
>twinkertrannies
basically describes me ngl

I bought some ram on Sunday but Amazon still haven't taken my money (or shipped). I wonder if I will actually be able to get it. It's already gone up about 30% from what I paid (although I haven't actually paid yet).

I need a cheap GPU for online browsing only.
No, I can't get a iGPU CPU since I am using a Xeon CPU.

>>107115931
K2200

>>107115858
Unironically this. You have to do that with certain Chinese products too.

>>107115858
>Leave it outside in the sun
Anon, it's winter and the sun sets at 3 PM if it appears at all but I'll try.

>>107115787
Price has dropped 15% since launch. Maybe we will see 5% more, but I doubt it will be much more until march or so.

>>107116016
It's still fall, retard.

I just got a "gaming" computer for $86. At a thrift store.

Not even bullshitting you. It's a Dell Precision w\ 8core cpu, 32GB, 500GB SATA SSD, 10TB storage, and a GTX 980. $86. out the door. xD This thing has a fucking 1300w psu. Totally lucked out.

I used to scour ebay and craigslist for deals like this, and often would end up just parting it out. Probably going to use for a spare gaming pc.

>>107115843
most times people in these threads argue that you should buy the cheapest and live your life
maybe skip the SFF as those may have thinner coolers and smaller fans

File: Screenshot 2025-11-05 222705.png (262 KB, 764x497)

262 KB PNG

>>107115519
too much color or how it's being rendered by the display/gpu (dithering) or too high brightness or too different backlight that you are not used to
maybe your eyes are just weak staring at that same old panel for decades
can be many things
many people report they can't look at nano ips panels and stuff, irritation with qd-oled and so on
maybe eye strain from monitor too close, too much brightness again
many things

>>107115559
>32" is veering way into TV territory and definitely not worth it unless you're going for 4k.
anything up to an including 55" should be considered a monitor
simple as

>>107115648
>>performance gains are marginal other than the .1% lows, even in the cpu limited games
untuned 12400f?
a oc 12400f 5.2ghz+6400 ddr5 is +30% in lows and +50% or more in averages aka a 12900k
a 9800x3d is more than that

>>107115809
that's just basically a worse 14900k
do you even get better binning idk

File: 1753875991425453.jpg (145 KB, 835x809)

145 KB JPG

>>107115931
I have this card on an office pc that just browses and watches youtube
It was like 40€ when i bought it

File: IMG_20251105_222409.jpg (2.26 MB, 4000x2252)

2.26 MB JPG

I am under the water please help me blub blub blub

>>107116102
let it dry out, it'll be fine.

>>107116102
umm you should NOT let it swim
it's black

>>107115843
I would consider a good model one that has doesn't cheapen out on cooling for the vram which usually is a good sign that it will not have hot spot issues, they are also usually quieter, for example but i think most models are decent just avoid the MSI Ventus

>>107116181
>>107115843
Basically check reviews from that particular model and if the memory temperatures aren't retarded and the fans aren't extremely loud then go for it also OC models are usually scam do not pay extra for them if the non OC version is cheaper

>>107115073
Would that x870e be a decent deal for the 2x16 sticks now that ram prices have exploded? I'd at least like 32gb and 32gb of ram right now is like 300+$ Got a 7900xtx I'm building around if that helps at all

>>107116039
with how retarded storage, SSD's and ram prices are getting you may as well sell that shit in a year and buy a brand new pc

File: videoframe_282257.jpg (2.52 MB, 3840x1920)

2.52 MB JPG

people said 720p look bad because asus has bad 1440p to 720p scaling
it seems it has good downscaling to 720p but the fact is that it still is 720p and thus looks like shit because you can't render pixels
lmao
https://youtu.be/nc7MHEMcVVI

>>107115931
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/?f=generation_NVIDIA+Quadro+Kepler
They're basically free, k620 and k2200 at least are maxwell

i refuse to buy lian li products because i hate the chink name

>>107116258
I found a $20 P400. Cheaper than the K2200 and apparently faster so good for me.

>>107116506
i refuse to buy lian li because they're so overpriced

>>107115796

nice, congrats. I'm penny pinching and putting together computers from the garbage.

File: IMG_0502.jpg (1.6 MB, 3022x2561)

1.6 MB JPG

Ran into a problem.
Th other end of this is soldered to the front panel.
the case won’t let the right angle go in.

I’ve been looking for type e extension cords and they don’t exist.

wat do?

What if I just bought wood panels from the hardware store, cut them, painted them, and screwed them in in my case?

File: 61ABKtCl6YL._AC_SL1500_.jpg (111 KB, 1417x1362)

111 KB JPG

>>107116603
right angle adapter do exist
make sure you get the right orientation

>>107116738
Wood is an insulator, so...

>>107116738
I daresay you would then have wood panels screwed into your case

>>107116763
I might not want to buy steel panels instead for this project. Wood is something I can shape with my tools to fit my case so it is a rectangle. I can cut extra holes for ventilation and glue on screw mounts.

>>107116738
wood resists the flow of heat and electricity ask yourself if thats a good thing

>>107116791
Plastic or aluminum is my secondary choice for top, side, and front panel replacements.

>>107116791
>>107116763
mfers acting like theres any significant cooling advantage to metal side panels

>>107116810
>>107116800
if your PSU explodes at least the aluminum will not catch fire

File: mk01-main.jpg (88 KB, 721x767)

88 KB JPG

>>107116738
You could just buy some 3D printer filament and print your own case.

>>107116810
when the transient spike happens you will be thankful it grounds through the metal case instead of going up your kb/m usb port and into your heart.

>>107116863
I didn't have a 3d printer in 2018 when I first saw one in action, I still don't have one now as much as I wanted to. I would have to commission someone to print the model file.

>>107116846
>>107116886
Why would this be a problem when the case chassis is still metal, you're just bolting on body panels to the exterior in place of the steel panels.

File: get help.png (24 KB, 287x200)

24 KB PNG

Not sure if I should ask about this here or in one of the AI threads, but I'll give it a try:
>Current build:
https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/list/gGpjmC + 1 or 2 extra fans that came with the case. OS is Linux Mint
>What I want
For now, upgrade just the GPU to fuck around with AI (LLMs and image gen), mostly as a beginner.
I managed to get the 6600 XT working, but for image gen I have to restart ComfyUI every so often or it'll end up crashing, because lol 8gb vram. Sometimes it'll freeze the whole system for like a minute before ComfyUI actually dies and releases the PC to be used again.
I've spent a couple days looking up some GPUs and their prices used and new around my area, and I have a few options but I'm a scrub at this so I want to know what more savvy anons think. My current list is:
>AMD RX 7800 XT (16GB)
>RTX 3060 (12GB)
>RTX 3080 / 3080 Ti (12GB)
>RTX 4060 Ti (16GB)
>RTX 5060 Ti (16GB)
The AMD is there just in case, but it's probably best to go with an RTX since it's just less of a headache with AI stuff. Right now I'm leaning towards the 3060, mostly because I can find some used ones for around 225 to 260 eurobucks (at a used store that includes warranty), and because this article https://chimolog.co/bto-gpu-stable-diffusion-specs/ (from the >>>/g/ldg OP) says that it still does surprisingly well for an AI budget/entry GPU.
That said, if something like a 5060 Ti is a noticeable bump in performance and future-proofing, I can wait a bit and check if some decent Black Friday / Holiday season sales crop up.
>Budget
Ideally 400€/450€ max, but if it's worth it for future proofing, I might be able to stretch it a little.
>Extra
Since there are tons of brands making the same models, which brands should I avoid? Also, things to keep in mind if buying used, even though I'll have warranty if I go that route?

>>107116748
unfortunately won’t work. not enough clearance.

lian li makes retarded cases

i had the ram on the cart, left to go to work, got here, opened the site to finish the buy, out of stock
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>107115693
Corsair uses random memory ICs on those. The "ver x.yy" label on the ram sticker indicates what is used. Even if you match the two kits, running 4x32gb will probably be unstable above 4800mhz

>>107115809
Most of those kinda suck since intel barely bins at all. You'll probably have to go through like five of them to find one that's clearly better than a 14900K.
If you can find one on OC forums, a 14900K R batch will likely have a better vf curve than the average 14900KS

HELP HOW DO I SETUP RAID

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/scan-view-rtx-intel-core-ultra-7-265kf-32gb-ddr5-16gb-nvidia-rtx-5070-ti-1tb-m2-ssd-win-11 id like to replace the liquid cooler afterwards, what would be a good fan cooler that would fit this

File: classic_wow.jpg (229 KB, 1293x757)

229 KB JPG

>>107117452
login first and i'll give you vent details

I'm thinking about making the jump to am5
is it still worth it or should i go straight to am6?
what are the good ryzens at the moment?
i'm brazilian so budget is a factor

File: IMG_20251106_011325.jpg (1.01 MB, 1921x1801)

1.01 MB JPG

All scrubbed sans the fans and the front panel plastic, here's the naked HAF 832A standing next to the stripped down Force 500.

She looks basically good as new save for a dent on the rear left corner (likely from shipping if I had to guess) and some rivet tops that came off. Ready to be primed and painted nonetheless if so desired.

File: IMG_20251106_011751.jpg (1.08 MB, 1872x1801)

1.08 MB JPG

>>107117527
I do still kind of appreciate the sturdy feel of solid top panels.

>>107117476
make sure you buy ddr5 NOW, prices are about to be retarded, later on you can buy whatever because AM5 motherboards will support am6

So I'm on a hp pavillion laptop from 2013. Things are starting to get pretty bad, I guess I'm finally gonna have to upgrade.
I wanted to get a laptop, but I'm sorta looking at a desktop, since the difference in what you get for the price is high.
I also don't know what I might want or need, though I guess if I'm getting something I'd just like to be able to play current games in 1440p on a high setting, maybe. But anything I get would be a gigantic upgrade from what I'm on now.

So my question is, but if I'm getting a desktop the main draw is upgradeability, right? That means I can get something that's not as great and just upgrade as needed right?
But how easy is it to upgrade really? Suppose I buy a 4060 and it turns out I want more, and then try to get a 5070 in a year, is that gonna going to go well? As far as offloading the old gpu and getting a new? Same for the CPU. Or is it gonna be practically worthless, and I will have spent money on two gpus when I should have just bought the newer one now?
And also, will the parts in the desktop like the motherboard and power supply be able to handle new things? Even the case I get might not right? It will defeat the purpose if I have to upgrade everything to fit a new part anyway.

When i was looking at laptops, it was like, I need to get the very best I can afford because you won't be able to upgrade cpu or gpu. But with a desktop I was expecting I can take it slower, presumably.

For reference I was looking at 5070ti laptop, for about 1800, maybe 2000 because the 2000 one had better cooling. I didn't want to pay so much butt
If I get a desktop I'm gonna have to put money towards a monitor and keyboard and mouse too. Would like to invest in a nice oled monitor, the laptop has an oled screen.
I should mention that the reason I was looking at a laptop in the first place is because I don't know when I might leave this county and go overseas or where I might end up. I still don't know if a desktop will work out really

>>107117046
>>>RTX 5060 Ti (16GB)
That card suits your needs best as they are mostly AI based

>>107117046
if care about AI just get a 5060 TI 16GB if you can find at msrp, not only its really good in terms of speed but it will be extremeply cheap to run it if you undervolt it (basically (120-140W) which will pay itself in a year or two of high usage, try to look for one with good memory temperatures though, some models cheapen out and do not have thermalds pad on the back and thats more important than boosted clocks for AI tasks and will at least fit current models to a certain extent.

My advice though is you are looking into video generation or local training and want a future proof alternatives is that if you can continue to put money aside the best option is to wait a few months for the supers and look into the 5070 TI super with 24gb vram it will cost much more but it will what you want in terms of future proofing

File: 1758032251920.png (804 KB, 1236x646)

804 KB PNG

>>107117470
A common recommendation would be Phantom Spirit or the Evo variant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY-8PZKcMYg

>people are showing the ikea particle board cracking from monitor clamps
makes a nigga not wanna get those, not that I will use monitor clamps... for now
can get a solid wood countertop still... hmm

>>107117631
Build a PC
If you move overseas, take your PC with you
If you are constantly having to move nonstop during the day and have to take your computer with you when do then buy a laptop
The "5070ti laptop" GPU is not a real 5070ti GPU.
If upgradeability is a concern build on AMD AMD (7000/9000) CPUs. You will be able to upgrade them for many years without needing to buy a new motherboard and ram
PC enthusiasts will spend hundreds on ewaste no matter how old it is. There is always a richfag/poorfag/autist out there willing to pay for someone else's trash.
OLED monitors are expensive but their prices are coming down recently
I used to buy those hulking hot as shit loud as fuck 80% plastic jet engine gaming laptops that and drag them up and down all day between buildings and between countries it sucks. A laptop should be as thin and light and invisible as possible. I'm never going back to that gaming laptop hell

File: 1747631278575146.jpg (1.05 MB, 2722x3629)

1.05 MB JPG

>>107117694
>particle board
that'd be an upgrade for ikea they're not above just using cardboard

File: IMG_20251106_014154.jpg (2.64 MB, 2252x4000)

2.64 MB JPG

Fuuuuck... I guess I need to do a second pass tommorrow because I swear I could still smell something. I guess I really need to scrub it extra precisely if hose and partial submersion wasn't enough in addition to spongework. And even then some of that cigarette shit might still linger. Perhaps I might have to de-rivet after all.

>>107117694
i bought an ikea chair once and the left and right non-adjustable armrests had a 0.2" difference in height

File: IMG_20251106_014146.jpg (1.97 MB, 2252x4000)

1.97 MB JPG

>>107117779
Little shit like this that only becomes revealed under harsh flashlight inspection. Damn these chainsmoker computers.

File: Untitled.jpg (384 KB, 2034x2068)

384 KB JPG

>>107117694
Pretty sure they are NOT using the particle board and have the cardboard one. I have a monitor clamp on particle board and it holds it up fine. And my desk isn't as thick as Ikea's.
Lagkapten is their shitty particleboard one, and the one that's being sold as a set with 2 Alex drawers to make the table.
Saljan is their wooden countertop.

>>107117794
Dude, literally just leave it in the sun for 24 hours.

>>107117635
>as they are mostly AI based
Forgive me for being dumb, but what does that even mean?

which one is better? AMD Ryzen™ 7 9700X or AMD Ryzen™ 9 7900
i don't know much about it

>>107117046
You need CUDA and you need more VRAM.

>>107118162
7900 is like 25/30% faster in multicore

>>107118201
could you explain to me like if i were retarded?
its also cheaper for me so thats a plus

What's a good prebuilt to buy off amazon to hold me over till the nvidia 5000 super series?

>*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
How bad of a constraint? It's like a 40% price increase in my country from a 4060 vs a 4060Ti

does buying a cheap mobo vs an expensive one make any difference besides number of slots?

File: 1731240997283.jpg (47 KB, 352x350)

47 KB JPG

>>107118162
7900 has two compute chips (6 CPU cores in each), only one of them are utilized in latency-sensitive tasks like gaming.
If you're a gamer, the 9700X will generally be better because all 8 CPU cores are inside a single compute chiplet.
You probably don't need the 7900's extra 4 CPU cores if you don't understand multicores.

>>107118243
There are other things like better VRM, postcode, more pcb layers for better memory overclocking. "number of slots" is actually something that doesn't really change much with more expensive boards.

>>107118272
i see...
what a good budget am5 board? there are no recs in the op
emphasis on budget

>>107118216
7900x = 2ccd of 6 cores each, totalling 12 cores. It's kind of like having 2 CPUs instead of 1. That makes it better at tasks that requires a lots of cores and lots of threads running at the same time. Things like gaming usually prioritize only on 1 of the ccds so it'd be like having 6 cores for that. That's the preferred case for gaming because it would not benefit running on both ccds due to issues with latency.

9700x = 1ccd of 8 cores. It doesn't have as many cores, but because all the cores are only on 1 ccd you don't have any of the extra latency issues. It'll also be better compared to the 7900x at gaming as 8 cores are on one of the ccds rather than 6.

Windows can also be iffy dealing with dual ccd CPUs and neither AMD or Microsoft care about fixing those problems leaving you to deal with it yourself

>>107118287
If you know how to use the BIOS Flashback feature to make the board compatible with newer Ryzen 9000 CPUs, I recommend the ASrock HDV/M.2.
This one shouldn't be at risk of killing CPUs since ASRock claims higher-end boards had looser PBO current settings.
It also sold very well; we should've read more instances of this board killing CPUs if it were true.

>>107118216
In most videogames you aren't going to see a difference for 8vs12 cores, performance uplift (that's not much) would come almost exclusively from the bigger cache. Most everything else the 7900 is significantly faster.

>>107117737
I used an ikea desk for years before, had shit legs that were those you screw around and you had to adjust 4 different ones manually to level them out
worked for forever never anything wrong with it until I left it
currently using a hollow ass linmon table yeah I can hear it's hollow and light and cheap as fuck but works for now

I don't really want or have a need to buy a new table but forced to
what a boring shit to spend money on

>>107117793
lol

>>107117985
yeah I saw dark person youtube that cracked one like that
I mixed up the definitions particle board and laminate in english yeah
I think i've had laminate ones before and never had any problems and many office suppliers use laminate so should be fine

>>107118258
>>107118293
>>107118320
i see
there isn't much difference in their prices for me, but the real issue is that the 9 7900 comes with its own cooler, while the 7 9700X would make me have to buy a cooler for it, and i'm already on a budget
i'm using right now a 5 5600X, so either is gonna be an upgrade either way. i will go with the cheaper 9 7900, thanks
as for the windows dual issue, i use linux, whats the chance that its not a problem there too?

File: Screenshot_20251106_103112.png (877 KB, 1920x1080)

877 KB PNG

how low can i go?

File: PRO B650M-P.png (731 KB, 1024x819)

731 KB PNG

>>107118310
all the asrock mbs avaiable to me are way too expensive
do you know if MSI PRO B650M-P is good? its the cheapest i found which looked reasonably good (my criteria was simply having 4 ram slots, all the ones cheaper than this one have only 2

>>107118396
It's fine if you're not planning to put a 12 or 16 core CPU on it, those will probably work the VRM a bit too hard.

Why do tables with electric frames sold with table top include not come with pre drilled holes often?
No, I don't wanna drill holes
Brb let me go across town just to borrow a drill

>>107118235
Are you looking at the used market or laptop? 4060 TI will be overpriced because they are used for AI, if you cant get a 16gb 5060 TI/5070 you are kinda fuck , maybe unironically check if there is any b580 or 9060 XT 8GB going for dirty cheap (if both are similar in price the 9060 XT is better even with less vram as at least you can cope with fsr 4 and the 16 PCI-lanes helping)

File: naX-DnKekCM 00-17-36 New (...).png (2.64 MB, 3840x2160)

2.64 MB PNG

>>107118396
If all you're ever planning to put in there is an 6 or 8-core you can get away with it for budget reason. But it's extremely power limited which the performance of a lot of the beefier chips you could ever stick in it. If you have other options list them I might look for an alternative, see this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naX-DnKekCM&t=996s

>>107118396
Probably fine but I think you could do a lot better for not much more money. What country are you from?

>>107118338
>I mixed up the definitions particle board and laminate in english yeah
>I think i've had laminate ones before and never had any problems and many office suppliers use laminate so should be fine

Laminate is a type of finishing. It's not a type of wood. Laminate finish means it has a plastic layer on top to cover the particleboard. Veneer particleboard is a thin piece of real wood glued to the particle board to mimic real wood. 97% of the furniture you see in box stores are made of particle board. Real wood furniture is expensive as fuck. Think x3 the price of a particle board furniture.

>>107118424
>>107118467
>>107118469
i'm the guy from >>107118343
so i guess its a weak option for the 9 7900.
i'm from brazil, hence the tight budget.

>>107118467
>If you have other options list them I might look for an alternative
thank you, most of the options withing budget are also B650M by other manufactures (not sure if that's enough to change the vrm issue)
the cheapest not B650M model is a Gigabyte B840M Eagle, Gigabyte B850M DS3H, and Gigabyte B840M DS3H
all other above it are over budget for now

>>107118516
That MSI board will be fine for the regular 7900 (non-X).
The 7900 has a rated TDP of 65W, and it's maximum stock power draw will be limited to sub 90W (TDP * 1.35)
https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/desktops/ryzen/7000-series/amd-ryzen-9-7900.html
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-corrects-socket-am5-for-ryzen-7000-power-specs-230w-peak-power-170w-tdp

File: EXJ6wb3XYAE0agw.jpg (88 KB, 785x1000)

88 KB JPG

>i cant find anymore 5700X3D or 5800X3D,
>just the throwaway trash 5500X3D

>>107118588
>That MSI board will be fine for the regular 7900 (non-X).
yes its not X. are you sure? i don't plan on overclocking or none of those things, all i'll be doing is some gaming and video encoding
but i can't afford to risk getting a mb that may hurt the cpu, as i won't be able to afford replacing either

do i buy a used MSI GeForce RTX 5070 12G VENTUS 2X OC for 520$(europricing)

>>107118640
why do you want one? super low clocks.

Is 850W enough for a 9070XT paired with a 9600X for 4K? And 9800x3D?

>>107118765
312+140=500W

>>107118750
if you know the person and dont mind noisy cards then sure, you'll have issue with warranty and RMA if its faulty though, the card itself its loud and temps aren't the greatest but if you live in a cold country and have a decent airflow/cooling and keep it dust free it will be fine, make sure you test it first though

>>107118750
dont cheap out on a piece that will last for 5 years if you can, you are better buying a brand new 5070 (go for a different model though ventus sucks) just for the warranty.

>>107118765
Yes

>>107118782
>>107118851
thanks

regarding my mobo trouble, i'm gonna go with a Gigabyte B650 Eagle AX, a little bit more expensive but i'll try to fit my budget around it
unless there are any known issues with this mb for a 9 7900?

>>107118864
I haven't checked it but I guess the VRM is too weak for a 12 core. Look it up and act accordingly.

>>107118873
it says it has "12+2+2 Phases Digital VRM Solution" but i don't know what that means

>>107118885
let me get my laptop

>>107118885
Right. The eagle board has old school mosfets instead of powerstages but it's capable of running 16 and 12 core cpus. I guess the sheer number of the little guys helps spread the heat out.
To gauge this, cross reference the "AM5 motherboards Sheet" and techspot "x56 amd b650 motherboard roundup"

Corsair Vengeance, 64GB (2x32GB), DDR5, 5200MHz, C40 for 280usd, good deal?

Are shitty vrms really an issue on am5 still?
We intel gods don't have to worry about such things anymore, on both lga 1700 and 1851 we're just good to go with any z-board

In theory, shouldn't AMD's Ryzen 9900X be able to perform better than a 9700X across the board outside of special circumstances because it has more total cache available per core?

9700X has 32MB shared for 8 cores
9900X has 32MB shared for 6 cores, and another 32MB for the other 6

Outside of gaming, what kind of workloads would not benefit from more total cache and core counts? It seems like it could be way better for general purpose use.

>>107119065
only if you want a big cpu but don't want to spend over $120 on a board

Sapphire Radeon RX 9060 XT Pulse, 16GB, GDDR6
is this good enough to future proof me?

>>107119093
It's a decent card, doesn't have thermal pads on the backplate tho.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bvT5XvG65Y&pp=ygUMaHd1YiA5MDcwIHh0

>>107119071
Yes

>>107119065
Only on the cheapest <$90 A/B chipset boards
Non issue for the rest especially since the biggest 16-core Ryzen chip only uses 2/3 as much power as a 13900k

File: images.jpg (10 KB, 195x259)

10 KB JPG

>>107119122
>&pp=ygUMaHd1YiA5MDcwIHh0

>>107119137
Is there a list of things that would perform better from more cores on the same CCD sharing less L3 outside of gaming?

File: am5vrm.png (2.93 MB, 2750x5554)

2.93 MB PNG

>>107119153
your claim is not entirely accurate

>>107114688
looking to build a pc under 1k for 1440p. I have no idea what cpu I should use

>>107119308
just option out both and see which gives you better framerate for the money....

alright, i think i'm almost finished with my build
cpu Ryzen 9 7900
mb Gigabyte B650 Eagle AX
ram Corsair Vengeance, 64GB (2x32GB), DDR5, 5200MHz
gpu Gigabyte Radeon RX 7600 XT, 16GB

now i need to choose the power supply
how much you think its needed for this build?

File: orange-huh-cat-v0-p6p53qg(...).png (76 KB, 640x640)

76 KB PNG

>>107114799
The ram upgrade I was looking into doing for my server went from $1300 to $8000 in a few months.

>>107119421
you can comfortably run a system like that on a 650W

>>107119421
that gpu is way too weak, at least get a 9060 xt

>>107119093
is a decent card for 1080p

>>107119474
>>107119482
would a 9060 xt 8g beat a 7600 xt 16gb?
i do only use an 1080p ultrawide
my main concert is the budget... that mother board is really breaking me right now

Imagine not future-proofing 5 years ago. Imagine buying pc parts as a gen-z now. Imagine waiting for prices to come down.

Why does contact cleaner kill mouse?
I just retardingly killed mine and when I checked the web it killed everyone's.

File: 1742074460088026.jpg (430 KB, 2824x2120)

430 KB JPG

>>107114698
I'm here just to call you a coward, probably from a third world nation like britbongkistan where this could get you arrested. Pic to remain in topic, got this in the mail last month

>>107119552
I sprayed brake cleaner on mine and it melted the optical lens

File: 1739272227800146.png (18 KB, 542x285)

18 KB PNG

>new nvidia driver update
E8600 & Q6600 chads, we still fucking got it

File: build.png (145 KB, 775x683)

145 KB PNG

so this is my final build so far... about 1640usd
my monthly income is 400usd but i have some savings...
i really wish i could've found a cheaper mother board for that 9 7900...
maybe there is a cheaper cpu option that is still good, where those cheaper mobos can take it?

>>107119809
BUY RAM
N O W

>>107119809
why the 12 core? is it cheaper than 8 cores?

>>107119809
Looked into the 7900. it has only an 88W PPT like non X 6 and 8 cores, it will run on any board at stock settings. for comparision 7900X and 7950X have a 230W PPT.

>>107119829
first i was between AMD Ryzen™ 7 9700X or AMD Ryzen™ 9 7900, of which the 9 7900 was the cheaper of the two

>>107119859
what about 7700, 7700x? they are barely slower than 9700x

>>107119871
ryzen 9 there is only that one.
there are ryzen 7 7700, no 7700x

>>107119852
maybe this one can take it then?
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B650M-GAMING-WIFI/Overview

>>107119916
the 88W PPT chips will run on ANY board including the $50 biostar shitters I imagine
which website do you use to compare electronics prices in Brazil?

>>107119945
i use this one
https://www.pichau.com.br/monte-seu-pc
you can select each part and they will send it built for you
they have a sale right now, which is why i'm so desperate trying to make this build... its 3:32 am right now
i'm not comparing prices at different stores because the shipping cost woud make it more expensive
>biostar shitters
thats my current am4 one haha

>>107119971
Can't access the site right now, says it's under maintenance...
Sort by lowest price and pick the cheapest one with pbo settings and vrm a step above biostar MHP

>>107119984
i picked msi B650M-GAMING-WIFI
i don't really know how to seach those pbo... or what it is...
this is the cheapest one that comes with wifi

>>107119971
I found a website with prices, you can get a board for 500-800 real, half of the eagle
meupc.net?

>>107120009
something i just realized is that i picked a 3 fan gpu and a mini mobo... will it fit?

>>107120016
thats the price of the msi B650M-GAMING-WIFI i mentioned

>>107120009
1300 real is expensive just to get wifi
you can buy a $10 usb wifi adapter
>>107120017
not a problem, you need to check the case specs. They list max gpu length.