/utwg/ neets didnt like me, an employed person, posting in their thread so im baking i guessprevious >>107122012
I had a better one but the stupid timer
>>107137209>I had a better one but the stupid timeri got 4pass and the farmers almenac is the most superior calendar and idk if its ever been used for an OP so did you really have "a better one"?
I have stocked up with supplies and now i am chewing threw it all. I expect supply shocks from WW3 RIP.
>starting to feel sick>weekend will be miserable>will be oncall next weekend>that one will be miserable tooidk why i do this anymore
Should I tell my boss that my psychiatrist wants m me to go to a psychiatric hospital? I've already been to a psych ward twice and it sucks and didn't help
>>107137978Why would you go again?
>>107137978Just go, don't tell them you're going, don't tell them you're there, let them think you disappeared and fire you. Then, when you get out, you can sue them for medical discrimination or something, idk, maybe
>>107137978nice fresh fit pussy could save you, but they dont' want you cured.
If I got a job why can't you? You certainly made fun of me enough for failing before.
how can I tell the caste of my jeet coworkers? it's not on their internal profile
>>107138427Usually lighter skin/more intelligence = higher caste
>>107138427oh my FRICKINg GODDD can we PLEASE stop talking about INDIANS? i am white too but GUYs theyre just smarter than us and harder working. GET. NEW. MATERIAL.
>>107138468nah the only people I acknowledge as smarter than me are some of these chinese women at my faang. I wish one would marry me
Do companies promising to pay a lump sum instead of paychecks ever actually pay the lump sum by the agreed date or do they just string you along and never pay?
>>107138515You have to make the first move anon. Take the team out to a bowling match and you will find out if she is into you.
>already mindbroken some anon because I'm calling out indianfags for being too mindbroke over indiansloooooooolyo can we both be named schizos? I'll be jackie. you can be mohammer.
>>107138427They have a golden aura surrounding them that only spiritual people can see.
OHHH SHIT NI-
I'm unhappy in my current job but I don't wanna go through the whole job hunting shit again
>>107137200i also post in utwg to give them hope
>>107138350Kill yourself furfaggot
>>107139344Seconded.
>>107138350kill this nigga ON SIGHT
I want to move to a different city and move out of my parent's house. Got out of a 4 year relationship a year ago and my god... the dating pool where I live is terrible. It's like all the women got sniped before they were 25. There is not a single woman my age that is desirable who hasn't already been with someone for at least 2 years where I live. I need to move somewhere where people don't get married before 30
>>107140045bruh if you're srs fr thers no pussy in Your area just move to Thailand thers mad pussy their
>>107140067I'm too good for Thailand
>>107140045>4yr relationshipbruh u camnt be olde rthan 20 posting here.... were u dating a 16 yo ever....... lol.............
>>107140045
Coming up on 11 months since I started this jobWhich means it'll be 11 months since I had any time off
>>107140045i just move to bay for faang and I only see asian women on the appsnot that i swipe right or date anyone mind you but it's much nicer than my previous small town
>>107137200>Company I work for shares floor with 2 different health companies.>Also share restrooms.>70% of those fuckers don't even wash their hands after taking a shit>They just run water over their hands for 1/8 of a second and leave. Leaving shit water everywhere.>And its not just in the mens, women in my office are complaining about it too.>Building management puts back all the covid signs telling you how too wash your hands properly.>They still don'tWhy the fuck are health care workers like this. Thank fuck there are paper towels, cause I'm not touching that door handle with my bare hands.
>>107140169retard>>107140189I think this is applicable to dating. However, I get what you're saying. I've met many people like this but they think that by moving to a new city they'll somehow not have to work at a fucking trader joes stocking shelves at 26 and they'll be rich or whatever lmao. I want to move strictly for having broader access to pussy>>107140204The bay might be the move or Seattle. I'm so comfy in my job, have a good reputation, make great money, get to live at home but the lack of love in my life is starting to get to me
>>107140338>being 26++ y/oretarded boomer life end ys
>>107140371I'm 25
>>107140395old ass geriatric nigger stop posting
goodnight /twg/
>>107140429goodnight
My income this year has somewhat exceeded my initial expectations and I'm going to pay 50% in tax for the rest of the year.
Got hired for help desk for fast food places, idk wtf im doing but im getting money
>my boss wants me to take time away from working on a project I've been working on so I can help him do "prompt engineering"I need a new job.
>>107140045Yeah I'm sure focusing on women who haven't been married by 30 will leave you with the pool of quality women you're looking for. Lol.
>>107141308Good job! ^_^
>>107141959This!>>107140045Anon you need to go for the 18 year old freshly legal ones
>girlfriend is being a bitch because she's on her period>uncontrollably desire to go cheat on her why am i like this bros
Daily reminder from your gal L here: Tim Jung is a faggot who jerks off to trannies, hope his new wife enjoys ; )
that aint me
How do I become a fucking freelancer, I'm getting screwed by my boss and I'm tired of it. I'd literally rather flip burgers than not getting my own fucking daily rate. I'm willing to lie, cheat, do anything to land that shit. Any advices, I'm enabling the full malevolent mode
>>107142043In this economy? You don't.
>>107142724He has a better chance since he has to fork up his own money for benefits.
>>107137999I don't think I will. I'm a big suicide risk I guess. I have guns but if I tell them that I'm screwed and they'll have police force me into an ambulance at that point. It's really tempting to blow my head off to be honest. I can be dead in 5 seconds if I wanted. But my parents are still alive so that's really the only thing stopping me at the moment
>>107143325By chance are you depressed because you are bored without any goals?
>>107137200>change engine 4 times in 1 year>Doing most of the code myself>no no no, this next engine change will deff improve quality >it's shit and i'm reverting it in a week
>>107141962Thank you :) it's my first IT gig and I'm just doing the best I can every day
I hate all browns in general but I ESPECIALLY hate jeets.
>>107144127hear hear
real talk how do the jeets pass the interviewsim not talking about technical stuff but just being social, talkative, normal-passing, likeable, friendly, chatting with the hr roastie, talking about the weather and your weekend, the story about dealing with conflict, the story about competing priorities. I just cannot imagine a jeet not being a mumbling autist
>>107144887DEI initiatives, nepotism from other jeets in power
>>107144887>he thinks they have an interview before getting hiredlmao how cute. If only you knew how bad things really were
>>107145134Lol.Love seeing little zoomer idiots be defeated.Not so cocky now, are you
How do I deal with the fact that I will inevitably lose fagman job in some layoff and the one after will pay less
>>107145409bow down to Big Indian Cock
>>107145134>Starvation is better than home cooking Ok
Our old business analyst got deported and the new one seems to have no idea what he's doing to the point where he's literally setting up meetings with me where he writes the email to the client in front of me and gets my approval that he's phrasing it correctly and usually he isn't but when I try to correct him he usually doesn't understand and mumbles something possibly in English and I just give him the greenlight out of frustration because the paper trail goes back to him anyway. This is pretty miserable ngl
>>107144887I just assumed they did the interviews in hindi and they were more affable there
>>107137200enjoying your weekend, /twg/?
>>107146348Sure. Been trying to learn IoT with random boards, but I'm a retard and will probably end up damaging them.
>>107146348
>>107146348Not really.
>>107146348I probably should go through another 2h onboarding video just to catch up
>>107144887first result for googling microsoft HR teamthey have every aspect of companies stacked so they can hire each other. the question might have had meaning before they were actual majorities in most places
>>107146348yeah holiday weekends are always nice
>>107137978>hospitalAbsolutely do not mention this, ever. You will be written off as crazy (which you probably are) and torpedo your career. If you can finagle it, get your doctor to write up an application for short term disability for "anxiety", or better, something entirely physiological rather than psychological. You get a month off of work to go the crazy house if you want and while you make yourself look like a weak, sick fag, you're a weak, sick fag who it'd be illegal to fire. Depending on if your work environment is weak and gay, it might even work in your favor in some twisted way. Advancement might take a hit, but you won't be fired for at least a year or something until there are widespread layoffs and they could plausibly let you go among a bunch of other people.
>>107146348no i am incredibly hungover
my company makes over $100 billion in revenue and I am stuck with a laptop that only has 2 p-cores.
>>107137978no. gf is coming over to cohabitate which means it's practically over for my degenerate manchild lifestyle. I don't think I will be able to handle living with a femoid bros
>>107146839>>107144887i applied at amazon. got through all the tech stuff, their personality/leadership test, hr screening, etc. then when i got to the final round my interviewer was a jeet who could barely speak english, I could barely understand the words he was saying due to his accent, and he couldn't understand me when i asked clarifying questions to understand the bounds of the problemneedless to say I didn't get the job
>>107143325get rid of the guns, retard. why risk the end of your life because of a 30 second bad decision?
>>107147414You really won't once they go histrionic over chores.
>>107137200PM assigned me issues on the weekend again. Now I'm going to hyper fixate on possible fixes instead of gooning out as god intended. Fucking asshole.
>>107137200/twg/ Sunday night theme music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lLBLjn3FCI
I work mids on the weekends themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAfv6BdudCY&list=PLuiczBQhAY_iznTpd9QjNGwWa5e2vov7ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMG2EEregSk&list=PLF4DA-heTH-waA7wMd23C3L0U8LoZchlZhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eeaO4LWIMkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x84NolXl89whttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQLc6MzWsiohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arusn12np90&list=OLAK5uy_ltYdMCOZux6AUKq9AiWZ7plcN-E_HhZschttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKeG-niQzVohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnZV7lbYpNw&list=PLRvM2fAdMqrvUYcOZb-BmdurasrOEpGmM
>>107147466I'm thoroughly dreading it. don't know how other anons can tolerate that
>>107147938Its a shit test honestly. If she tries to take control, huffs and puffs over chores then you need to tell her to focus on the shit she likes to clean while you clean everything else. If you let her take full control then you lose power as a man to make decisions. Also generally men and women have different standards of cleanliness so just set a schedule to clean shit so there is less shit to fight over.More importantly above fighting over chores is spending so learn some actual finance shit. Make sure she is investing, saving and paying off debts. You do not want to fight an annulment once you learn she is 100k in debts to include credit card. At that point she wants a man to pay it off then gets divorced for half his shit.
Why is it that even though I have very noticeable autism I'm better at professional communication than around 75% of my coworkers?
>>107147982Mental illness so broad stroked as autism is why people don't respect physiologists as a science. Normal midwit IQ people are lazy and stupid compared to someone that is smarter. Generally what they define as mental illness can be described as personality traits.
>>107147633cute anime girl sexo
>>107147982I am going to add that alot of social issues with shut in nerds can be solved with exposure. I work in IT so we force alot of the new guys to work in the helpdesk to get it out of their system. Its also an IQ test since if you cannot handle the info you learn and apply in that job then you won't handle a more specialized job later on. >>107148019Girls und Panzer
>>107148002>Generally what they define as mental illness can be described as personality traits.you say this until you meet an autistic autistic person
>>107148002>Generally what they define as mental illness can be described as personality traits.true but also they have the caveat that it becomes mental illness when that personality trait interferes with daily life.
>>107138350Why do furfaggot niggers get jobs but I don't even get a call back when I apply?
I simply refuse to upgrade my car. It is a small econobox from 2017 showing its age with 90k km on it, but there's no objective reason I can't keep it for another decade. My family is putting pressure on me to upgrade but I only work twice a week in the office and I intentionally do all groceries and errands in those days so I only touch the thing twice a week.
>>107148760My car is from 2015 with nearly 140k miles on it
>>107148760>2017>90kthat's still serviceable for 99% of cars and idk why zoomers think that if they have more than one year or 50k miles the car is dead. i had a boss recently who had a literal 00s model with 300k and that shit still ran fine except for the driver's non-telemetry display (odometer, radio settings, etc. were always fucked up unless he hit the dashboard and then they would print properly (made of 13 segment displays that probably had bad connections please understand))
>>107148760My car s from 2007 at nearly 200k km. My mother's is even older at nearly 300k
>>107148789>muh zoomersWhat is this obsession man
you guys bought cars that came out after 2010? lol.
>>107148818the only time i hear about people complaining about cars having more than 100k on them as being near-death they have been under 30, usually under 25
>yes goy just drive the clapped out roastie car that has more than Twenty Five THOUSAND miles already, it's not cuckoldry unless the last driver is there watching!I wonder who could be behind this.
i take public transport i don't even have a driver's license
>>107148885same, i either take the bus or use an e-bike
>>107148850How often could you possibly have heard that?So-called zoomers are just younger, less experienced people. You and I were stupid(er) once too, cut them some slack and focus your hatred on jeets instead
>>107148907the one redeeming feature of jeets is they have okay taste in carsevery jeet who gets any shred of money immediately buys (not leases!) some ridiculous v8 twin turbo american shitbox and puts an absolutely adorable-for-the-cringe wrap on it
>>107148775>>107148790Yeah but is it a small form econoshitbox manufactured in Thailand? It almost dies when I'm stuck in traffic from all the crawling. I can smell smoke/fumes when I drive over 130 km/h.>>107148789My model can theoretically last over 150k miles from what I saw in a Facebook group, I will keep it until then. Also I'm a millenial.>>107148885I used to do this but even then I still had to drive to the train station kek
>>107141982>Missing the biological window to reproduce>Girlfriend now in pain>Have the urge to go do the reproductive actJust get her to stop taking birth control.>"I don't want kids"You are a human male, it's your fucking job retard.
>>107148929That's because all of them live in Texas and the confederacy in general so they're hit by american patriotism.
>>107148943not only are jeets a more coastal issue but also even in india there's a weird car culture. all the poorfags drive scooters but anyone with money imports a ridiculous american muscle car or gets a high-end tractor trailer trucc and throws a ton of lights and rugs on it
Why does the world feel like it's coming to a standstill
>>107149141its not. we live in interesting times
>>107148459everyone sports fake mental illnesses as a fashion statement now. i would bet 10% of diagnoses are legitimate. maybe even less. the field of psychology is harmful and a joke. actually just kidding its awesome to put 5 year olds on adderall.
my diaper leaked at work again..........
>>107146348don't make me want to kms, please
>>107149242uh oh stinky!
>>107148943They do that exact same shit in Canada
>>107149416to be fair canada is weird about cars because it has the same COUNTRY TO BIG problem; i think we just had more weebs so you used to see more japanistan tuners. these days visibly american cars are popular among boyracers but also a lot of that is probably jeets wanting a giant car
>>107149242panty line anon has a nightmare
>>107138350You will always be unemployed.
>>107150321
I started foam rolling again, lost my old foam roller when moving. My back feels almost normal again, would recommend.
Would it be cringe if I got a drop-leg holster for my laptop?
>>107151130Yes.
>>107151221Awesome. Any good brands you know of for it?
this general is more depressing than /utwg/
>>107151609Both suck.
expecting a response about a job tomorrow, at the post-interview-references stageI've had two good interviews and provided good references, but I know it's between me and "one other guy"
>>107151671man you want to see a BAD general go to /int/
>>107151676I don't really want to see bad generals.
>>107151679
oh, we're talking about cars?i have undiagnosed epilepsy and drive anyway, sometimes a 7 minute drive back from walmart takes 2 hours because i pulled over and need to wait for a seizure to passmy previous car quite literally fell apart whilst driving, the chassis part that held the rear axle broke mid-drive due to rust degredation and my local mechanic told me it was a lost cause. I donated it to a catholic charity and I replaced it with a used 2014 nissan that cost only $4k
>>107145134Read through the article and it makes good point. Hell it has a /pol/ point here, so everyone's happy with it.>>107146348I would but my dad did the typical dad thing and gave me a bunch of work randomly. I don't even live with him anymore and came over, and he said "son we gotta move your brother's things".It's very fucking annoying. I love my dad so I always go along with it, but I hate the inability to coordinate.
>>107148880>>yes goy just drive the clapped out roastie car that has more than Twenty Five THOUSAND miles already,i'd consider you to be more of a cuck for buying a car with less than 25k miles on it desu'brand new car' is a meme and its value degrades significantly the second you drive it
>>107151773How are you even allowed to have a license?
>>107148880My car currently has about 101 000 km on it. Seems fine to me.
>>107151820>How are you even allowed to have a license?be being undiagnosedif i was diagnosed i'd be stripped of the ability to drive
>>107151825have you considered that your continued driving under this condition is grossly and sinfully negligent, likely leading to your death and that of others
>>107151825Make sure to keep posting about how you have epilepsy and shouldn't be allowed to drive so that insurance investigators have more material to work with once you get into a big crash.
>>107151840no because im aware of when a seizure is going to happen and i just pull over. Ive never been surprised by one>>107151848>once you get into a big crashwhich will never happen
>>107151936>no because im aware of when a seizure is going to happen and i just pull over.On the highway?
>>107151944no, its never happened on a highway, it was just a small local road
>>107151972You better hope that it never happens on a highway, because if you pull over to the side of the highway because of a seizure and someone plows into the back of your stopped car, they're gonna come after you if they see that you're there having a seizure.
>>107151936>Ive never been surprised by oneyeah impeccable logic brotherI'll never die because I've never died
>>107137200I have a self destructive urge to sabotage and fail my hard milestones.I feel stuck and caged in a situation,where I started drinking a ton to distract myself from it.And this just to get a foot in the door in a soon to go to bust economy in Germany.Anyways, gonna try to play some Vidya before forcing myself to write my documentation for 8h or so.Why oh why does life feel like a constant marathon of humiliation rituals and why do I have the urge to just sit by idly and watch it all burn...
>>107152022>waah waah I live in the economically strongest country in Europe [not counting mountain and oil jews]Come on
>>107152041Yeah I know.I am trying to come through.I think it's something else, can't put the finger on it.
You guys are faggots lol!!!This is how you get job!!! Im planting stickers all over town!!! Each time i go with my friends family elsewhere, i bring my stickers with me!!!
work in finance bros
>>107152076jeet %?
>>107152055You're welcome retards!!!High agency is the key!!!
>>1071520850just spiritually chinese
I think I'm signing an employment contract tomorrow. Maybe.
Remember your place, wagie. Be grateful for what you have.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4-2MD76mvI
>>107152076I applied to an asset management company. Never heard back.
>>107153294I got some assets you could manage.
for 3 years now I've been cheatingI 100% wfh and barely do any actual worka lot of days I don't do anything, sometimes I work 2-3 hours a day and only a few times a year I will have to do stuff (like set up environments for tools) that actually make me work 8 hours a day for 1-2 weeksI do have fill in timesheets about what I'm doing and it's the hardest part of my job, having to come up with fake bullshit I did for 8 hours when I reality I took a 4 hour nap and played video games or browsed the internetmy boss expects my timesheets to be 80%+ filled with stuff that can be billed to a customer which is what makes the having to come up with stuff part so difficult because I barely have any stuff assigned to me (maybe like 1-2 projects)nobody ever checks in on me, sometimes we have a team meeting but that's more casual talk than actual work talkI never go into the officeI earn 70k per year in Western Europe which is okay and above average so no way I'm quitting on my ownI don't know for how much longer I can get away thisand if they ever let me go I'm not sure if I can work an actual job where I would have to go to an office the entire day
>>107153294apply to quant
>>107153974>Dude apply to 300k a year
>>107153993
>>107153966Most people that work in offices actually do work in 2-4 hours. You are paid for the internal knowledge and availability.
>>107153233>4channer discovers basic truths of capitalism for the 9887461976374th timeread Marx, retard
>>107154013You haven't realized that some people are better than others.
>>107153966I had this and lost it by changing jobs.I know switching to that particular job was wrong but I'm not sure if switching was bad.
hello sirs, let's do a team-building exercise. make your own expectations vs reality meme about Silicon Valley (you DO work in SV, right? this is TECH WORKERS general). whoever gets the most (You)s will have a secret prize waiting for them by EOD today! (it's a $20 gift card)
>>107154642>you DO work in SV, right? this is TECH WORKERS generalThere are more tech workers outside SV than inside.
>Almost monday
saar we invent TSV again pay $1billion saar
just gotta get thorugh next week
>>107154856might as well use protobuf at that point
>business smart>business travel>business casualWJAT IN TEH FUCK IS GOING ON WITH DRESS CODES I ONLY KNOW HOW TO WEAR KHAKIS AND POLOS STOPP
>>107154938i wear sweatervests
>>107154938I'm noticing you're not wearing business home in the /twg/ thread. This won't look good on your weekly evaluation.
>>107154938Shorts and flip flops for summer, jeans or sweat pants, cheap plan shirt all year.I try to reflect how much I care about the people I'm going to meet in how I dress.
>>107154856i want AI troons to leave my industry forever
>>107137200I've been employedI've been unemployedBoth sucks.
>>107155105>how much I care about the people I'm going to meet in how I dress.Oh, I just wear clothes I find comfortable.
>>107154856Is this some NFT shit?
>>107154856I swear Linkedin is more full of shit and garbage content than facebook, not that I have used fb in 15 years mind you
How do I learn K8s?
>>107155652Have a project you need to put into a Kubernetes cluster and then start reading the docs on how to get it done.
>>107140045same bro. finally got a job in this godforsaken job market after neeting away my 20s. like a cruel irony where im employed but im in some godforsaken dying redstate where everybody is obese and retarded. just need to be a good little goy and work hard and if the job market rebounds (lol) i can maybe go be a bigcitycel somehwere fun.
My company is trying to enforce pair programming soon. They've been saying they've trying to do for years now.And this is pair programming the entire day. They seemed convinced that it makes better and easier to understand and maintain code.I think it's dumb, but they are making me the one to enforce on my team.They also seem to be under the impression that FANG companies do this all the time. From what I can gather, it's really just pivotal labs, the guys that do vmware and cloud foundry.I'm at a loss as to what to do. Jump to another job and hope it's better? Try to fight their moronic stance on pair programming? Drink the kool-aid?
>>107154856>troon format
What are some work friendly hobbies you can do during downtime? RTO soon and I need some type of self learning or something because my job has a shit ton of down time.
>>107156438Play video games and go out and do errands.
>>107156451.....in the office?
>>107156460Oh I thought you meant until RTO happens.In that case, my answer is unchanged.
Which hurt our careers the most?>coding is easy >ai will replace everything but especially programmers>jeets
>>107156525By in large jeets. The way they spread like a cancer outweighs the other 2 easily.
>>107156525high interest rates
>>107156438listen to retarded podcasts and pretend it's AI relatedI get sent links to listen to retarded zoom/teams talks
>>107156438Write a novel.
>>107156438Check out all the women in the office, imagine them being undressed, and think about all the things you would do to them if you had complete control over their bodies.
>>107156438I sit in a strategic spot and read mangaIf I can't, I browse 4chan on my phone
no way
>>107157282whats your excuse?why don't you visit them in india arrogant cracker?
>>107157325From now on, all companies will have team building exercises where they fly us based teams to india. No, these will not be optional. No exceptions.
career? tc? wlb? paternity leave? free meals? office game room / music room / ice cream shop?bro im just here to find an asian wife
>>107157282Yeah I'll just ask mr bossman shekelberg to fly me every two months to india, sounds good[disclaimer : my entity is 80+% jeet] I actually have been there twice, once for a PI (the one time they invited everyone, before it got restricted to TPOs only) and it really wasn't that bad since we got to stay in a 5 star hotel, poolside bar with the (european and american) boys every evening, good time. Third world uber in pandemonium streets and the office was what it was
>>107157340Just let your passport expire, it's not that hard
>>107156438Get really spiteful.Remember that time your cousin shit on you for not being able to cook fried rice? Do that correctly this time. Cook fried rice for everyone in the office.
>>107157282hackernews is mostly indians. same thing with team blind.
>almost mondayplease PLEASE don't do this to me
>107158032Just do work on sundays that's what I do. I just take a brief look at what's popping so tomorrow I don't panic.
sorry i quoted wrong. working on something and I've been kinda stuck on what to do.
Code Wars or Leetcode or something , I got some budget for an annual subscription for black friday , which one would you suggest I take advantage of?Im very mid at DSA if it helps in your assessment
is this a dude or what
The community around Ruby and Rails seem relatively Pajeet-free compared to PHP, Java, and especially anything Python or JS/TS related. How did they pull it off?
Random questions but how do you guys handle EAs? They always want to circumvent the system and do shit that's completely off script and they keep saying a bunch of security red flags (like having the executive's user account and password) and I'm just pretending to NOT hear things but just saying well YOU could do X hint hint but it's very bad and not cool but if you REALLY want to..... hint hint. I personally wouldn't recommend it but hint hint.
>>107158167i guess even pajeets know better than to pick up a dead language/framework
Go to bed. You've got to get up early for work tomorrow.
>>107159131Taking a sick day tomorrow [/g/spoiler]and I get veterans day off.[//g/spoiler]
goodnight /twg/...
>>107159970ah bloo bloo
>write up jira for change>includes new mandatory field explicitly applying to all open forms (forms are either open, or closed)>manager looks over it>"does this apply to re-opened forms?">"yes, any open form">"well does it say that on the jira?"I hate my manager
>>107160161Let me guess: your manager is also the one that is demanding shit be added to Jira.
>>107160215It's pretty normal for changes to have a jira ticket, no?
When support reports a bug that is never going to be fixed because its a tiny issue that only one customer has do devs laugh at it, get irritated that the ticket count is going up or just ignore it?
>>107160261none of those - the devs don't even know it exists, because support doesn't give tickets directly to devs unless the dev process at that place is fucked up
>>107160300>because support doesn't give tickets directly to devs unless the dev process at that place is fucked upyep that's usI want to escape T2 helldeskinterviews coming but literally hundreds of people are applying for these positionsidk how many are scraped out before the phone screen interview but I've got to get past that and another interviewyay
How do I transition into consulting/contracting from regular wagecuck software dev?I'm tired of getting jewed all the time and I want to do the jewing for a change.
>mondayfucking hell... end me now pleaseFUCKING END ME NOW FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>/On call/ overThank God
>>107161893ignore this demoralization propaganda, mondays are a wonderful time of the week
>>1071487602004 with 300k miles on it. Bought it for 800 and it has lasted me 3 years. Have only had to do struts and brakes and oil changes. And I had to weld the exhaust too since the mount had broken loose and it separated at the cat. So maybe $2000 total cost of ownership over 3 years. Registration is like $20 a year and insurance is $30/month
>get corperate email that my password is about to expire and how to change it via corperate website>change it>week later>my laptop still takes the old password and not the new oneyou've got to be shitting me
>>107162427big oof. You should have downloaded more RAM.
how do I into devops as a data scientist / computational biologist
>>107162560You need to kill yourself first
Why is keeping documentation and tests up to date so fucking hard? I just want to get work done, I know these should be considered features, but I just cannot seem to mentally prioritize this over development despite knowing it is better in the long term. I'm trying to take out half a day per week for keeping this stuff up to date, but I always have that nagging feeling that I'm wasting time that I should spend coding instead.>>107162560Why devops?
>>107162526im just weirded out how they dont sync like they should. They also have accounts manually created locally for everything, like they never thought "huh why dont we syncronize access with an ldap server", it just never crossed their mind
>>107162607I'm pretty certain you are trolling, but if you are not you probably just fell for a phishing mail.
Shut down over. How much you getting for back pay?
>>107162630no they actually dont use credential servers like they shouldi brought it up during a company meeting and their like "thanks for providing constructive criticism why do you think we should be doing things this way"
>>107160300So how does a ticket eventually get to devs? Who does it go through before them?
>>107162816At my work, help desk looks at the support ticket, if they cant resolve it they notify my team's project manager and then he would write a bugfix (or feature) ticket that we will then see and work on.In my experience, we fix everything that's broken no matter how small. And we don't really think all that much about the users. It's just a job after all.
>>107162851L1 -> L2 -> L3 -> L4L1 being the "have you tried turning it off and on again" desk, L4 being the "is it a bug or a feature™" deskIf L4 says it's a bug, it goes to the dev team
>>107137209>picI am happy I did miss it, I didn't want to risk becoming a deadbeat dad forever stuck with alimony, or simply disappear like what happened to my peers back when I was in high school.
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>>107159697Are you the unlimited PTO Chad?
>>107162870>all that crapWe literally got this 50 year old woman doing help desk. Before that our project manager did it.
>>107162889I saw my former classmate in the papers while I was in my early 20s and starting my career. Mentioned that he had a young kid.
>>107162586>Why devops?seems like there would be more opportunities for fully remote roles
>>107163034nice, not everyone is privileged enough to get through teen pregnancies while still being financially sound however
>>107163104It was a news story about how he'd gotten brain damage and had to move around in a wheelchair.
>>107163032Bigger chains like that become necessary as the company/department/system gets bigger. I doubt the PM would have the time to handle dozens of calls a day
>>107163127oh that's hella unfortunate
>>107163127Dam lucky he gets to be a NEET for the rest of his life on benies. JK that sucks ass my sisters best friend was on a 4 wheeler and broke her back doing a wheelie at the age of 16. Wasted life at that point.
>>107163164>annoying attentionwhore at 16 ruins her life being an annoying attention whoreDeserved, fuck the bitch
Help Desk is nice if it's internal, external help desk is annoying since sometimes I want to "skip" because YES I've tried ALL the troubleshooting steps already. Please don't force me to do this, I know where the function and bug exists and I just need someone to apply to fix with admin or something.
>>107163331I know your pain i have to jump through multiple hoops to get the problem either looked at or fixed. I have submitted many bug reports to websites, businesses and other services for their crappy products. But internally as the IT guy its just a hop and skip away for our customers to get any help they need and all the info they could ever want, even if its not us that handles it we will package their problem better than they could describe it to the next team anyways.
Anyone thinking of trying to pivot into Tech Sales since AI will probably eat a large portion of the Software Eng/PM market? I don't really see it eating into the Solutions Engineer/Architect presales roles though. And some of those make even more than SWEs. I have a friend who went into that and he loves it and makes $$$ (travels a lot though). Not sure I would like the constant pressure of hitting sales targets though.
AWS down again?
>>107163376Yeah that's my goal, though I don't know how I could go about it with no previous experience.
Project Management is just HR for men
>>107163396looks like ithttps://downdetector.com/status/aws-amazon-web-services/
>>107163376i see mostly jocks in sales, the techies all get to be the demo guys for the sales team>>107163331Did you try a hard restart?>>107160261I'm the boss that hands out the work. We were told "No Opex". It's been that way for years. The only bugs that get fixed in dev are ones that stop purchases. Everything else has been ignored since I started here 5 years ago.
such a comfy monday wfh
>>107163411someone has to be the tard wrangler and it happens to be my lot in life that I am that wrangler
>>107163418>i see mostly jocks in salesYeah my friend said there are a lot of those guys, but apparently they are so technically inept that when a sales guy comes in who can actually code/speak tech lingo, the customers go wild and don't care if he's an absolute nerd/socially awkward.
>>107163430depends on the company, I got in and out of that quick those guys were cunts and being the technical guy wasn't worth it
I remember when I was in L2 IT and I got tickets that were like>my python script error with out of scopeand I'm like.... bruh who the fuck okay'd this to send this to me? I'm out of it now that I'm a dev but I wish I could do that fucking lmao call out help desk to figure out my script so they can figure it out.
I have a lot of downtime. I should probably do some self learning. You guys got any good courses to do?
>>107163680"Dealing with difficult people" is a good one, there's lots of versions of that.
>>107163680Actual puzzles helps a bit with figuring out random crap thrown at you. Besides is this IT or Programming?
I'm done paying fucking taxes man. I am from Europe. They are stealing half my wage. I will never even save up enough for a home downpayment at this rate (normies have their parents pay for that, I have no family).Fuck that. I want a job that pays me in crypto, entirely tax free, while I also collect welfare. It has to be possible somehow. How do I find that?If it is impossible, then the alternative is to somehow look for a managerial role like tech lead, overhaulf my resume sell myself as some sort of genius, get a very demanding job, all to make a bit more and still have the tax collector steal half. Fuck.
>>107163812>>107163702SaaS admin. unironically I've been learning a lot of automation but I have no way of implementation because of red tape. sigh.
>>107163847Not gonna make any jokes man, as an American finding out what my taxes are going to and nearly a third of my paycheck being stolen for that, I don't want to pay taxes either.
Strive bro my boss is off today, wanna play some matches?
>>107163847You just learn to accept the fact that this is all there is and that you'll work 40 hours a week for a mid life until your 80.
>>107163849SaaS more like SaarS amirite saar?
>>107164174I work remotely. I work around 10h a week or so I'd say, on average.I could never go back to being stuck in cagie all day.
A cock cage that requires you to plead with an AI for the right to take it off
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>>107164241source
>>107164197In the US you'd already be on an in-office Penis Improvement Plan so consider yourself lucky.
>>107164246don't you mean saarceIt is Healin' Good Precure saar
>>107164261hate the pips, they do nothing, we can't get rid of anyone who sucks
>>107164281show bob and vageene pretty saar
>>107164281those eyes ruin it FUCK
>>107137200Man i always hated frontend.Now i handwrite backend and opencode does my frontend and it just works, pretty nifty.Intelligence was never really necessary for frontend webshit anyway so nice that it can automate the boilerplate.
frontend web development confuses me because I don't think I've EVER seen a well designed website that didn't feel like a template, shopify website, or a rabbit hole ARG.
manager told me to turn my o(n) numpy implementation to an o(n^2) pure python implementation and now hes confused how it could be so slow now
>>107164197>I could never go back to being stuck in cagie all day.Not even if you were offered SEX with HOT WOMANS?
>>107164376Have an example.https://motherfuckingwebsite.com/Designers ruined web design.
>>107164502women are over
>>107164519As I said I've NEVER seen a well designed website lol. So what the fuck are all these web front end devs doing?
twg is a men enjoyer thread?
>>107164551>So what the fuck are all these web front end devs doing?Implementing whatever designs the designers, who have the same computer literacy as your grandma, hand them.They usually cater to the most retarded users and eventually end up thinking every user is braindead, dumbing down design more and more over time.They also love to treat websites as their art projects so consistency is non existant, hide pretty much everything behind a million click just to leave a "clean" interface with space to "breath".
Looking for advice.After 6 years working as frontend dev I can honestly say that I hate this shit.I'm tired of libraries and frameworks, and the amount of complexity that seems absolutely needless to me, and on top of that I hate working with designers and I hate modern web design with burning passion.Pretty sure I can still enjoy programming, so my question is, what the hell should I do? What should I learn if I want to work with something enjoyable and stable?
>>107164633but how come every company website I see is fucking horrendous and basic. Like this shit you can implement straight from shopify templates. Even SaaS tools are fucking awful because it's just menus upon menus. I don't know if anyone worked with SAP before but holy fuck how the fuck is this company like top of the market when their product fucking SUCKS.
>>107163847>Fuck that. I want a job that pays me in crypto, entirely tax free, while I also collect welfare.>I don't want to pay taxes but I want to be paid thanks to the taxes of others.The average "libertarian". Sigh.
>>107164769Please be patient with this general, people here aren't that smart.
I would like to do some low level programming, I dont care which language as long as it's something serious but unfortunately I'm stuck doing webdevI don't have a university degree and every single job involving programming that I find require itis there any hope for me? Can I ever find a proper job without a degree? I could enroll but money is tight right now
>>107164646You go fullstack jack-of-all-trades. Frontend is a dead end.
sup crakkkas can a brotha from da hood get a good job without having to learn any of dat coding shi?
>>107164841Whatever you do stay at your current job. In this market not having a degree and five years of relevant job experience is DEADLY.
>>107164869That's my first guess. I'm unsure about the stack though.As for the database, pretty sure that I'll go with MySQL, but then I have to choose between the languages that have job offers in my area>PHPLaravel is nice, but there are lots of legacy projects with abyssmal code. I used it a bit.>JavaMany job offers too, I know shit about it>NodeAverage job offers. I already know JS so it would be the easiest to learn>PythonFewer job offers, but can branch to data analysis, data science and AI stuff.
>>107164877anon you broke my little hearti really want to get away from my current job
>>107164646frontend is the only thing that AI is doing really well right now so those guys are all getting fucking replaced unless they have other skills
>>107164895Java >> allA little bit of Node and Python knowledge doesn't hurt either. Stay clear of PHP.
>>107164908Do not even hop jobs.I hopped jobs and got laid off immediately, now I am finished. A victim of the trumpcession
You guys have any courses for dev's best practices? Trying to learn confluence for work with no resources or backup and it's been quite frankly a little difficult because I have no idea what good looks like for it.
>>107164908Your best bet is applying to some shitty startup for shit pay and zero job security.
>>107164983that'll be the of his career and lineage
>>107164841>>107164908Gonna disagree with doomposter. People are being allowed to hire suddenly probably because AI is shit and the bubble still hasn't popped. If you find a job I would job hop in a minute, problem is nobody is called anyone back so your mileage may vary.
>>107164975Designing Data-Intensive Applications is basically the bible for system design.Do you want like more specific knowledge in a language or framework?
>>107164985I'm being realistic here. If your goal is to jump ship asap and you don't have a CS degree there is not much of an alternative these days.
>>107165009Framework. My current workplace is a mess so I'm just looking to fix how we do work. >mfw no documentation at all on anything
>>107164841Depending on what you are using for back end development (I assume java or c#), you can increase your skills in that and then use that to get a position that mainly utilizes that language. Real world experience can be enough to get your foot in the door.
>>107165033The official websites for frameworks are usually a good start. Then watch summaries on youtube regarding how it works. The rest you'll learn from experience. Whenever you run into an issue or something you don't understand ask the CoIndian to explain it to you in simple yet concise terms.
>>107165055For me it's more like>get thrown a project>no PM>Try meeting with stakeholders to do shit>they don't move>no UAT>no one actually pushes the project and there's no direction>projects usually get pausedI haven't ran into it yet but considering I have no documentation, I'm surprised we haven't ran into a scenario where we keep doing the same thing and failing over and over again. I just want to learn how other devs document and how to keep things organized.
>>107165073>I just want to learn how other devs document and how to keep things organized.We have a wiki for that which gets updated whenever someone feels like it. The rest is documented as implicit knowledge.
>>107165073I'm using Replit to cut out all the meandering bullshit with a single stakeholder instead of building with a committee. Actually getting shit done. To be clear, only using Replit for designing so we can get some fuckin requirements out of it. Business NEVER knows what they want, no exceptions
>>107165147>>107165073oh and basically replit will create all the documentation if you ask it to. Or, we also use Github Copilot which can do the same thing and we throw it into Confluence
>>107165172>>107165147>>107165090Yeah, any resources to help learn the best practice is from scratch? Ugh most of my projects are like we can't even talk to the business otherwise it raises too much noise so we have to just "demo" what we think they're doing and what they want and then once we have a finalized solution to present it. It's so backwards.
>>107164951>Stay clear of PHP.Well that's one thing I was almost sure about. My choice was pretty much tied between Java and Python, whit Java being safer to land a job.
How do you handle internal stakeholders that scream and make everything urgent? >Just don't respond backMy boss official response to this uptick is just "make them happy, just see what they want and stop them from crying". It's driving me a little nutty desu. Everytime they come to us it's something that should've been done yesterday and then they act like it's our fault even though they just presented this to us like 5 seconds ago. "Executives are looking at this" what the fuck man
>>107165190That's stupid, how would you know what to build? I recommend recording it, run the transcript through some AIgen thing like ChatGPT to create requirements documentation, then use that and your finished product to write tech docu. Every place I've worked has done shit differently but basically they spend no time or money on it, it'll be some wiki or Confluence or sharepoint or something. And you just have to document what you can with what little time you have and just throw it up there. Use AI to do it, it's a good use case actually.
>>107165331I'd start writing bug tickets, track them and see how many aren't actually bugs. Obviously you're not gonna get fired for it, but one day your boss may get questions and have to go to war with the business, and knowing what and how many times they forgot to tell you guys shit will help you and your boss deflect a lot of bullshit allegations.
>>107165341Oh trust me I fucking know, my boss reaction is just "do your best :D" Doesn't matter, I show them a possible solution, they get angsty about one little minor setback, I can't come up with a solution because of dependencies and then welp project gets shelfed until they want to randomly bring it up again. Drives me mad. But I want to start logging this so I can just point and be like we did x,y,z and I was waiting for you the entire time but I have no idea how to start since we didn't really have documentation and starting from scratch is intimidating without knowing how these damn tools work and what templates to use or even what good documentation looks like.
>>107165353Usually it's an operational process. I can inform them what to do (It's usually in the SOP that they refuse to read) but a lot of the times this shouldn't even go to me and should go to our help desk. But if I redirect, they'll make noise and then boss man hears and oh my fucking god not this shit again. So I just have to help them out but I'm literally dealing with a problem right now where they get an error message on "Error: exceeds maximum amount of lines, please split the upload into multiple csv files" and they're just like ????????? WHAT DOES THIS ERROR MESSAGE MEANS WE NEED THIS IN THE SYSTEM NOW ANONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
>>107165331Do you have a team lead or department manager who can interact with business so the developers don't have to?
>>107165147>I'm using Replitlmao
>>107165298Java + Spring Boot in any case.
>>107165429Forcing my boss to do it but he'll usually rope me in a whole "If I'm going down, you're coming down with me."
>>107165391Yeah been happening to me for years. I no longer get mad, it's job security to me. Do the project, or don't, doesn't matter to me anymore.>>107165409I'm not saying redirect, I'm saying start documenting the history of these exchanges because the "they're not doing their job/no THEY aren't doing their job" fight is coming one day.>>107165446gets me requirements in a single 1 hour meeting when it used to take 6-8 weeks
Just accepted a C/C++ systems programmer type job straight out of college. I don't have a lot of systems level experience but I currently write C++ for pay, which is how I got the job.I have a few months until I start as the offer is conditional on finishing my degree.Any good reading/project recommendations to get some more experience before day 1?
>>107165613The C Programming Language
started using ai for coding and I don't understand how people use claude, I get rate limited no joke in 2-3 questions
>>107165639Claude also tells me I have bugs in my code and when I ask for an example where the logic breaks, it says it can't find one and there isn't a bug.
>>107165607will do, thanks anon!
>>107165462My honest recommendation is to look for a different job, if your boss doesn't see the problem with that and as I can see it actively encourages business to go directly to programmers, he is incompetent and your situation will not improve even if you start logging these things into tickets like the other anons said.
>>107165809You're probably right but I'll be honest I'm not as technical as I should be and the only reason why I'm here is because damn I am a juicy all in one.
>developing new frontend feature>write "sneed" in things like buttons or logs>small chuckle anyone else?
>>107165884Every time I write "CP" (change pull request) I have a small chuckle and feel like I'm doing something naughty.
>>107165919I do the same thing every time I post on 4channel
>>107165919>>107166012Well you guys are just a couple of scoundrels, I say!
>>107165919>CPhttps://youtu.be/3LNkY-iSBKI
>>107165884>>write "sneed" in things like buttons or logs>>small chuckle >anyone else?literally me. today ive been working on a custom plugin for our inventory management system that lets the user dynamically run commands on devices with conditionals and as a conditional in a test run i put in "sneed" just to make sure that if an invalid conditional was detetected it alerts the user to what the valid conditionals are
>>107166140Without enough sleep your quality of life when awake goes totally to shit.
>>107166154SKILL ISSUE
>>107166107kek
How to tell your manager that the feature will be done in "two more weeks" and that they need to "trust the plan" with the most corpo mumbo jumbo possible in an email?
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>>107166488Depends on your goal. If you're trying to piss him off and don't care about getting fired, just ask chatGPT for a really long way to say it.If you want to look good, just say you're trying very hard to get it perfect or something.
