>>107176484
I did it bros
They want me to start on monday
Was just about ready to throw in the towel and become an electrician instead

>>107176633
Congrats and get out

>>107176633
What kind of role? Can be anything from Bangalore Grain Inc. help desk to Google SWE.

How was the interview process?

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>people on 4chan make fun of me
>everyone irl says the job market is tough and they know of other people struggling putting in hundreds of applications

maybe its because i live in DC where the shutdown has affected literally everyone lol

>>107176643
You probably aren’t as irreplaceable as you think you are, and if so your manager isn’t really doing their job, it’s not in a company’s best interests to allow employees significant leverage. Most people who think they are irreplaceable are easily replaced after a couple months of adjustment by those who remain.

For me, this is the 6th RIF I’ve witnessed and the first time I’ve been impacted, I can recall during two of these RIFs they let go of excellent engineers purely for either behavioral reasons (one guy was a dickhead, might have been too autistic to realize he was punching up) or simply because they made more than the bottom 80% of engineers. Your company could be bought by private equity and they could hack up and sell your company for parts, you could be acquired simply because the acquiring company wants your companies market share, your boss could be let go and you may find yourself managed by someone with a personality that doesn’t mesh with yours, all things I’ve seen before and didn’t reflect the skill of those impacted. I’m guessing you don’t really have extensive industry experience, or much of a family.

>>107176779
Did you forget this website is filled with autistic spiteful little virgins who are 3 L's in a row away from committing suicide, so being vile under the guise of anonymity is how they vent?

where is that trannycase niggerfaggot

>>107176748
Sw. Engineer for a company developing the digital infrastructure and such; basically government projects.
I had a tech interview where they wanted me to not implement, but just describe conceptually how I would create a simple service for time tracking that would work on desktop PCs and mobile phones.
So my conceptual knowledge was tested on CSS, Bootstrap, Angular, REST APIs, OOP and SQL databases.

>>107176966
yeah thats true..

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I believe in you guys even if you don't believe in yourself.

I lied on my resume and made it through all 3 interviews with no problem, now they want me to do some background check bullshit and I’m afraid I won’t get the job, FUCK

>>107177205
what did u do anon

>>107177205
>I lied on my resume and made it through all 3 interviews with no problem, now they want me to do some background check bullshit and I’m afraid I won’t get the job, FUCK
I just added personal trainer to my resume to stop ATS from seeing that I've been unemployed for the past 10 months. I'm swole enough that its believable and have friends I coached for free that are willing to act as references.

>>107177263
I lied about working at a place for. 4 years when I got fired after a month and was a NEET

I have an IT internship with my universities multimedia team, but for reasons that I won't get into on reddit I was never able to get a SWE or any kind of programming/dev internship. I've been applying to jobs since September and haven't heard back from many and have had one "interview" that really seemed more like part of their application process. I don't feel like I'm a "bad" programmer, my main concern is that I won't get even the slightest gaze from hiring managers or ATS.
In preparation for interviews I've been doing quite a bit of leetcode and I'm working on a cert in AWS, Azure, or GCP.

I've seen a lot of helpful people on this sub so I was hoping that people with experience would be able to point my in the right direction. This is my resume if it helps: https://imgur.com/a/orQToOr

>Interviewer: So Anon, tell me why you would be a good fit in our team?
>Me: I don't know, you tell me.
Not shitposting. I have been feeling shit lately.
Needless to say, I don't expect them to contact me.

imagine being unemployed in the biggest bull market run since 1918. lol. just fucking lol.

>>107176105
>>non-standard email domain
Hasn't it been par-of-the-course for ages to have your own domain?

>>107177780
Fuck off nigger

>>107177780
shit bait kys nigger

>>107177786
Maybe visually but not at the actual server. Most major providers (which are used by big corpos, they just forward/retrieve from gmail/azure/whatever these days because muh cloude) will automatically trash any emails not from "trusted" domains.

It's even worse if you're using cock.li or tuta or some shit. Then they outright say "uh oh this guy isnt just a spammer he's a le terrorist !!!"

>>107177815
>shit bait kys nigger
Hello shartyfaggot

>>107177848
rent free

Anyone who writes "corpos" does so because they know when they say "corporations", it sounds especially jeety.

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I'm genuinely curious how anyone has a hard time finding a tech job when your competition is 70 IQ jeets.

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>>107177899
>I'm genuinely curious
who cares

>>107177818
I'm obviously not talking about hosting it yourself.
That's a pretty much hopeless endeavor for precisely the reasons you cite.
Even fucking Google Mail can be used with your own domain, though, which also results in a better standing with spam filters and the likes.

>>107177700
>I've seen a lot of helpful people on this sub
This what?

Should I retrain for a career in trades?

>>107177786
I've been using he same gmail for 20 years and never had a problem finding work.

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I had a productive day today
hopefully I can sleep without the crippling anxiety tonight

>>107177947
See >>107177918

>>107177899
the 70iq jeets bid a lot less but can afford to do so by having lower expenses. however i am unwilling to live in refugee conditions 20 to a room and unironically neeeeed to make about 2500/mo to break even.

>>107177919
oh. ok. then yeah it's fine but most individuals don't have custom domains and it looks kinda weird. basically you're either a tryhard, or obviously have a side gig that will "distract" you from the job. I would just use a gmail address to apply to jobs

>>107178010
You aren’t and never will be a hiring manager, keep to yourself what you think is tryhard

>>107177990
Why haven't whites beaten jeets at their own game? What's stopping you guys from living army barracks style to save money?

>>107178032
nta but I have to filter and interview applicants every other month, for what it's worth I don't care what your domain is as long as you're not a sperg during the interview

>>107178050
interview me

>>107177570
I don't think they can tell employers details about your time working there. AFAIK it's just a yes/no "did they actually work there" question.

>>107178062
I don't think anyone from here would last long in my line of work lmao

>>107178131
>I don't think anyone from here would last long in my line of work lmao
then die

>>107178034
i did that for several years already and would like to not anymore

>>107178102
that it's illegal or something to ask more/for the ex-employer to disparage you is fuddlore, but most HR rats are fudds and believe it anyway so it never happens in practice

>>107176484
Want to kill myself for being an unemployed retard.

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Does anyone have a modernized version of this?
This is not how it was for the most part of known history

guys, i will start working monday, it's over

>>107176779
>maybe its because i live in DC
no, that's it. I took my job from a guy in DC that wanted twice as much as my salary, but I live in a tax free flyover and even that cut to pay is more than the median house hold income here. Coasties are doomed.

We would all have jobs right now if it wasn't for Indians.

>>107177477
I did something similar. Took a couple of years off in a third would country, had a friend there that owned a cell phone repair shop, so I just said I was a partner/consultant of the business. He would agree to that because I did actually discuss tech with him, and I was integral to him moving from just Apple products to Android as well. I doubled his business, why wouldn't you hire me?

>>107178336
born-> own nothing/relate to no one -> die

>>107178336
>have your first child at 28
Golly gee, I wonder what could be causing autism diagnosis to skyrocket?

>>107178558
I saw another one years ago and it read "have kids at 35", not even kidding

>>107178558
>>107178581
Age isn't really the issue, it's the health and history of the parents.

We live in a corporate techno feudal world

>>107178606
My nigga, age is the ONLY issue here

>>107178606
It was normal for most people to have children in their teens, early 20's at most. Autism simply wasn't an issue. Now everyone tries to have kids in their late 20's, 30's, 40's, and suddenly autism is everywhere. Curious!

>>107178615
>>107178632
Chemistry is the key. Age has an affect on it, but I would argue that what people are consuming is causing more harm, pharma and food specifically that last 40 years.
Lead and other heavy metal poisening is still a big deal, and how they've leached into watertables from old/closed plants that were open in the past.

>>107178682
Nigger the Romans were literally drinking water with lead cups, filled with water drawn from lead-lined wells and never had autism issues. They had a lot of other issues but autism was not one of them.

>>107177899
>finding a job is an IQ matter, not because tech are using jeets to cut costs
midwit

>>107178700
Weren't they also tripping balls with hallucination ingredients in their wine?

>>107178336
>thinking about starting a business at 35
At least I'm still early on that. Glad I'm not a wagecuck

>>107178720
no, they just went to local natural gas fumerole things and huffed the fumes

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>>107178700
>never had autism issues.
BEHOLD, A MAN

>>107178700
m8 they even had incels becoming femboys, there is a literally a piece of pompeii graffiti that goes something like
>begone, wily females! I, Gaius, will only penetrate men's asses now after what you have done to me!

>>107178336
Whoever made this clearly either lives outside America or is a horrible driver, since it has "20 years old" for age of passing driving test. I wouldn't care about it.

>>107179207
It looks like it may have been edited or something, but I swear there used to be a British Pounds symbol on there at one point.

>>107179312
>British
Would make much more sense desu

>>107177927
It was a slip of the tongue

Just 4 more days of node js THEN i'm done with javascript then just the 15 hour socket io course then the secret project commences.

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>>107179358
That's also an old image, I've seen it around for awhile. I don't know how old, but as a wild ass guess I'm gonna say ten years old. Idk. But anyway I calculated how much that 40k they list in there is today, and then converted to dollars. $72,000.

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I could have been born 50 years ago when a man simply walked into a building and got a job that could buy a home and feed a large family with no prior education or experience.

I could have been born 50 years into the future when AI has ushered in a luxurious utopia where nobody has to work and we can pursue whatever dreams our hearts desire.

Instead I am born in a time when I have to compete with shit-encrusted hands for pennies on the dollar, dehumanizing myself at the whims of brainwashed academia, usurious jews, and boomers who take pleasure in witnessing my suffering.

I would rage against the machine, if I had any kind of hope or energy left.

Doing shit. I'm doing a lot of shit, just no formal employment or income yet, le xd

>>107179050
sucks that none of his work survived, he seemed funny

>>107179900
everyone's been saying this. you guys underestimate human greed. the doomer anon from the other day was right.

>>107179900
Shut up furfaggot.

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>>107176484
>unironically promoting China for cents/free.
Not a good look.

>>107177894
Corps (Businesses)/Corpos (suits) learn the difference, its cyberpunk slang. "the corpos:"
>Google
>Microsoft
>Apple
>Huawei
>Nintendo
>Sony
>Logitech
>Paypal/Visa/Mastercard (same deal, the unholy trinity of the payment processing elite that is the sole provider in most european countries.

>>107179900
kys

>>107176484
Is anybody doing Advent of Code? I am backtracking all the way to 2015. Day 7 is absolute asshole.

I'm finally on the recruiting side. Here's a few tips for you fags:
>a link to your resume isnt an application
>your resume should be one page
>if you have a link to your site, it better work, look good, and not have placeholder content
>if you link your github, it should have some actual projects for me to look at
>a grown ass man using an anime drawing of a little kid as their github pfp is quite strange
and stop fucking lying about your qualifications and yoe, or at least make it believable

>>107180878
k it didnt work what now

>>107180878
interview me

>>107180911
Im just telling you what I've seen that made me immediately trash an application.
t. 11 YoE senior dev recruiting for a mid level position
>>107180916
post your (anonimized) resume first and i might

>>107180948
>post your (anonimized) resume first and i might
~6 years Fortune 500 company tenure:
3.25 years SOC analyst (triage, remediation, detection engineering)
1.5 years data engineer
1.5 years data analyst

2 years of mercor style freelance work early in my career while I was in college

Bachelors degree in IT from top 50 american university. 3.77 GPA

Some Azure and ITIL certs

If that's good enough, give me a way of contacting you.

>>107180976
Completely different field unfortunately fren; I'm looking for a software dev.
However one of my clients is actually looking for a data analyst but that position has a poverty-tier wage, I think about $20/hr. I doubt you're interested in that, but if you are I can absolutely get you through the door.

>>107181027
>However one of my clients is actually looking for a data analyst but that position has a poverty-tier wage, I think about $20/hr. I doubt you're interested in that, but if you are I can absolutely get you through the door.
If its remote, I'll take it.

>>107181027
>>107181037
I'm heading to bed. If you want to talk about the data analyst job, my non-work email address is magatama1@gmail.com. Feel free to send me an email when you can. I'd really appreciate the referral. Thank you.

>>107181037
Send your discord/telegram & actual resume to texppc at merepost dot com
Feel free to remove your personal details

>>107181191
>Feel free to remove your personal details
Sending it now. I'll have it over in a few minutes.

>>107181191
Sent it over. In case someone else sends you an email my discord ends with 8531.

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>Hello anon, thank you for your response. After reviewing your answers, I would like to invite you for a virtual technical onsite interview. What is your availability for this week and next week?
- Fagman HR

Hello Applicant,

This is a fucking E-Mail... to some dumb FUCK on who applied named "Anon". Now, I'm tired of this fat FUCK popping up in all of my fucking Applicant Tracking Systms when I'm looking for a FUCKING server janny! I don't give a FUCK about the aftermath of ANY of you Powershell fans that feel sorry for this greasy fuck!

You stupid fucking disgusting panty-line sniffing BLAWB, beer-drinking, CISCO-bathing. ball-gargling, pen-thieving, Steve Ballmer face having, Dr. Robotnik looking, Ramen eating, Welfare gorging, T-Rex arm having, Non-Dubai Chocolate eating, cook with a Coleman grill because the power been cut off, linux loader, nogame indie ""dev"", poorfag, pretending to have a fucking thyroid problem, Welfare Whale slash Free Willy, PArt bus, Yokohama Crackhead, meeting flubber, Kirby, salad dodger, chair crusher, round meal, go to Safeway and use every fucking coupon, no driver's license, HAPPY because Enron is back in business motherfucker!

I know there's gonna be a lot of people out there calling me a bully, well guess what? I'm not! I just don't feel sorry for lazy fucking people, especially fat fucks who sit there all day, gorge and eat, and make no money because they've studied absolutely nothing! While a bunch of sorry fucks like yourself play into it!

You don't like what the fuck I'm saying?

Then FUCK YOU!

>quit my last job because they wanted me to take the vaxx
>haven't found a job since then
I won't sell my body for money

>>107181759
do you want one though?

>7YoE devops
>API developer, C++/Python/Solidity
>worked in net.eng
I've given up about a year ago.

It's not too bad.
I collect dem welfare gibs, but I don't know.
This place sucks (Syrupniggerland).

Everyone I know is on gibs, and everyone under 25 lives with their parents. Most developers I know are unemployed. I was talking to some students for CS the other day, kek - "I can't wait to find a job".

I said nothing, but, lmao, they are so fucked. My wife left, and about a quarter of the men I knew trooned out, or became fags. The women are obese.
Thanks for reading my work blog.

>moved back in with family because I can't bother getting out of bed most days
I am incredibly depressed, kek.
Also, it's 99% jeets everywhere now.

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>>107181759
lets be honest nigga if you haven't found a job in 5 years your body ain't worth shit

>>107178140
>then die
Learn English, Tarou, it's "Fuck you!"
Is the employment situation this bad in Japan at the moment?

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if a take home project has an assumption eg 0 > n > 10 do I need to validate it?
I wouldn't validate it if it was in leetcode.

indians uniroincally won
its over.

>>107178336
I can't believe people fell for this ponzi shit.

>>107181329
The fuck's a "virtual technical onsite interview"?

>>107182392
HRbabble for a leetcode quiz

>>107181783
That sucks, but at least you have a place to stay. I assume Syrupniggerland is Canada?

My stats:
>8YoE System Engineer/"Devops"
>Almost 1.5 years unemployed
>Wife also unemployed

We're living off savings and gibs. Can't wait for the "AI" bubble to burst and make everything even more shittier, lol.

>>107182416
>ai bubble
so the artists, copywriters, journalists, etc getting replaced are all "fake news" right? after all ai is useless and does nothing right?

>>107182435
>artists
Artists that actually create something original are not getting replaced.
>journalists
Lol, journalism hasn't existed for a long long time.
>copywriters
I know people that have worked as copywriters and that shit was dead long before LLMs.

LLMs are useful but they are not replacing anyone and that is a shame since stuff like HR and C-suite should be replaced.

>>107182400
Lol. And they want you to do this shit onsite? Amazing.

>all the jobs are being shipped to india
>I still can't find a job

has anyone here had any success after following-up after an interview? I'm assuming if they wanted to move forward with you, they would tell out. what does following-up achieve?

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>>107180878
>>a grown ass man using an anime drawing of a little kid as their github pfp is quite strange
lmao filtered faggot

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Just had an interview with Amazon. Answered some questions okay but I fucked up on one easy one and I feel like such a failure. I couldn't answer what is DNS? JUST ROAST ME, I deserve it. I just want a comfy techsupport job, but I guess my only option soon is to study one last time.

>study
You are not going to make it, anon.

>>107182883
It achieves nothing. If they don't get back to you it means you're out.

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What watch do you guys wear? Thinking of investing in a rolex, it'll all be worth it if it opens the door of opportunity to a comfy job

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Just bought a month of leetcode
First interview is in a week
I will get this job.

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Now I have to write a 1000 word report on AI. Then I have to create an AI that can guess your political affiliation based on a few questions and I decided just asking questions that are pretty much asking what is your political affiliation I will ask what games do you play. What are three games that conservatives probably play? Then I have to do tvt splitting and analyze f1 scores and stuff. I love AI! I LOVE AI!!!

>>107184089
>What are three games that conservatives probably play?
That's not how it works: You need p({politicial orientation}|{game}) for a number of games and political orientations.
Based on these, you can then calculate the probability given someone tells you his favorite games.
I suspect, p({game}|{political orientation}) is of little use here, but do your own research to be sure.

>>107184171
I thought I just put a list of 12 games and then pick your political affiliation and I use that to train the AI then the AI just calculate the probability that someone picked a game and is of a certain political affiliation based on the training data? That's not how it works?

>>107184089
Does it have to be game related? You could tell in one question, "Do you believe in absolutely free speech, even if it offends minorities"

I took 6.5 years to complete my 4 year college course. Did an internship and 1 year full time after that. I got laid off 6 months ago. Will employers think I'm retarded for taking 2.5 extra years to finish college? Or should I lie about completing it in 4 years then put the extra 2.5 years as "freelance"? I just don't want a lot of gap on my resume.

motivations 200 source
software 100
hardware 100
legislative measure to deploy them 200 source
ethical considerations 200 source
2-3 future implications 200
three external sources

Alright, time for a quick break then I got to look up and make up and type a bunch of words. I have to write a 300 word reflection component too desu.

>>107184316
my dude I don't even have a degree, I've spent the last year neeting (shows 10 month employment gap on my resume) and I'm still getting interviews lol
No, taking 6.5 years to finish a degree doesn't matter as long as you have it and can explain the timeline or any employment gaps (good chance with this market they don't even care about gaps)

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what jobs are in demand in china right now

>>107184957
Forced labor

1/5th done

>>107184957
serf/slave

Just get a dev job in Poland or somewhere if you're THAT desperate.

>>107184957
chuds will seethe but china is winning

>>107184177
Be extremely careful what exactly you are measuring, but that could work in principle.
What you did in >>107184089 will not.

>>107178336
I'm 16 years behind on my first kiss, and counting.

>>107178336
If you work full-time from 19 to 22, you will be able to move out by 22 to pay rent and buy a car at the same time of course.
Maybe even buy the car outright.

>>107185421
I'm applying to remote polish jobs. Haven't heard back.
Don't live in Poland or speak their language though.

Woooo just 2 future implications and a scholarly article and the 300 word reflection and I'm done. That wasn't too bad I guess.

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>recruiter sends me an email at 10 pm est

>>107185942
she wants you nigga. email her a picture of your cock

>>107185960
That's very gross. He should send a photo of the vaginoplasty, not the penis jar.

>>107185960
it's a fucking jeet you retard
this is why you're unemployed

I want to die.

>>107182964
Nigga how the fuck do you not know DNS?

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>>107182883
I thought I did pretty shitty at an interview and when I was being escorted back to the lobby I said to him "look if I didn't get the job just tell me now so I'm not wasting my time" and he gave me a shitty look before saying he wasn't allowed to comment on it.

I didn't hear a single peep from that company for 7 months, and out of the blue I get a call from HR asking when I can start. I had completely forgotten about it and was so confused.

>>107186119
>7 months
what the fuck?

>>107186147
Apparently their HR was fucking retarded or something. When I was being onboarded my manager was omega pissed at them and called them all useless cunts.

>>107186119
>I was being escorted back to the lobby I said to him "look if I didn't get the job just tell me now so I'm not wasting my time"
Main character syndrome and a stupid thing to do. Often times hiring decisions are made after interviewing multiple candidates. They don't have a personal vendetta against you. I'm surprised they called you back.

>>107186188
Like I said I thought I fucked up the interview so I was already bummed out.

>>107185901
It takes 30 mins to apply to those tiresome PhDs that ask for too much

Why do some jobs on LinkedIn get 100 applicants in the first 10 minutes while others have been up for a week and only have a dozen applicants? Makes no sense.

>>107186293
Internal algorithms push some on lots of people and others don't get advertised.

>>107186293
Maybe word gets around the jeet hive? or a jeet subreddit hears of it

>>107186073
I complete forgot domain name system and then how I should explain sorry I am tarded and fucked up big time.

damn you guys are obsessed with indians

I'd happily do some programming for 30k a year, why don't they just give me that job instead of giving it to rajkumar?

>>107186293
The former is remote or has some other appealing buzzword.

Should I be ignoring job postings from companies like infosys, tata, cognizant, etc? I've heard they're all jeet scams.

>>107186573
The only thing depressing about unemployment is not having money. If I had enough money to not have to work, life would be paradise. The moment my parents die will unironically be the happiest day of my life because it means I'll inherit millions and never have to work another day in my life again.

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>>107186642
>I'll inherit millions
Sure, unless you find out they actually did a reverse mortgage or pledged all the money to a donkey sanctuary or something.

>>107186678
They're the type of people who have always hoarded money and spent very little of it. They also own 4 different income generating rental properties so at the very least I'll inherit a 6 figure passive income stream, which is also enough to never have to work again.

Okay now I just have to write a 300 word reflection section even though I already wrote the paper.

>97 words

>>107176484
"It is important to us to let you know that we have made the decision to move forward with another candidate for the position."

This has to be the most bait and switch rejection I've received. Not "Unfortunately, ...", just waiting till the last moment to tell me they are essentially celebrating finding someone else.

Lowest unemployment since the 90s

>>107177899
Because the pay is less, and jeets only hire other jeets but control over 70% of the job market? The 30% non-jeet positions left are for the top 1% of CS grads.

I won't leave the white collar market. And I will not get the helpdesk job that's basically retail.
What's the best course of action from here?
Already have a masters. I can only think of getting another masters or something.

Time to farm night's edge

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today's question is so unfathomably dogshit and incomprehensible that no company wants to touch it

>>107186642
>>107186573
>t. lives with mommy and daddy

>>107187496
>just 1 more degree bro

The stupid startup won't pay me and it's taking forever to get a new job.

>>107187610
Retards who studied economics, journalism, finance, management and marketing are doing fine anyhow. Why do they get to have fun? Maybe it's the lack of the stem degree. Maybe one of their useless degrees will help.

>>107188000
>economics/finance
>useless
Financial analysts are second only to directors on pay scale and easily rake in 600k+.
>management/marketing
>useless
Someone has to wrangle the tardmonkeys and sell products, otherwise these companies would go out of business.

It would seem your inability to grasp why these positions are so valuable may also correlate with your inability to find work in the IT sector. Perhaps another degree would convince employers you're not a blubbering retard?

>>107188041
Average IQ at these degrees is like 80 and they're churned out of business schools by the millions. They easily outnumber those who studied science.

>>107188113
Weird how these 80 IQ untermensch are blowing your 130 IQ ubermensch brain the fuck out in every conceivable metric. Curious, even!

>>107188041
You want to compare the top payscales in the world?
CEOs with a coding or engineering background are set to become trillionaires really soon, which means they blow your financial analysts out of the water. And it means absolutely nothing to any of us because the CS degree has become useless.
Your inability to grasp this astounds me and your post is absolutely useless to us.

>>107188158
Something is going on which allows historically bad degrees to outperform CS somehow.
Just 5 years ago people were saying it's better to study CS or SWE than medicine or law.
And now not only is the degree useless but the experience is worthless too.
I think this is a wake-up call to reskill out of a saturated market unless I'm hallucinating and the market is actually bad for everyone.

>>107188202
>saturated
There are still more cs jobs than cs workers. Yet, it's impossible for a cs person to get a job as if the planet is made out of memes or something ludicrous.

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Imagine being a twenty something working at openai (which is most of them). you're already a multi-millionnaire

>>107188328
Means nothing for the average programmer. I don't know why they don't just hire 600 regular programmers instead of hiring one guy for 20 million.

>>107188377
A lot of their researchers only have a bachelor's degree. There is one who is a highschool dropout. Either it's generational talent or they're getting paid to be sam's buttboys

>>107188175
>a single trillionaire exists, therefore the average wage doesn't matter
Weird cope but okay.

>>107188468
>a few quants make 600k therefore the average wage of math degree holders doesn't matter

>>107188328
money is infinite and meaningless to these companies. unlucky retards like us will never have a chance to experience wealth.

>>107188549
>unlucky retards like us
You mean retarded spergs who cheated their way through college and act surprised when they bomb every interview they land?
>>107175115

>>107188701
p sure this was ragebait larp

>>107188759
No that's every single degree and every single person in the world is like this. Anyone who studies for an exam forgets everything the next day

Ive got 4 interviews lined up for next week and one of them pays 151k salary. Fuuuuuck am I finally leaving this hellhole?

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>Lose job a month ago
>Every single recruiter I talked to in person ghosts me
>100+ applications in the last 6 months with an 80% ghost rate and no interviews
>Local business I was looking at severely lowballs a friend after a month of interviews
>Retards in the state tax department double count my income from 2022 and send me a huge bill today

when does it fucking end

>>107183513
cringe level is off the charts with this guy

>>107189147
>Lose job a month ago
>100+ applications in the last 6 months
Something doesn't add up.

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4 more days of node js

GraphQL today. (I'm going to use websockets but w/e)

>>107189165
The pay was awful and it depended on a government grant getting renewed which I correctly guessed wasn't going to happen

REST api with queries neat 2 and a half more hours

>>107189201
No I mean applying for jobs 5 months before getting fired. Someone is a lying faggot.

>>107189201
Everyone is sucking at the udders of the government these days. Nobody is producing actual wealth.

Anyone else have to ask for permission to use the restroom leave their desk?

>>107189213
HR made it clear I'd never get a raise and the NSF budget was getting cut. You'd have to be a hopium huffing retard to not look for work

>>107189214
There's plenty of companies producing actual wealth based off the research we were doing. The founder of one of the largest companies in the field did his PhD in our lab

>>107189227
My work site covers 112k square miles. My boss is half the state away and aside from giving him weekly status updates I'm practically a ghost.

>unemployed tech workers
>unemployed
>workers
really makes ya think

I just realized that I can apply for phds in cities where 500k people live instead of cities where 5 million people live.
Even though there's 100 relevant PhDs in the 5 million city per quarter, there's 13000 applications I have to compete with so the chances are zero.
If I pick the 500k city there's 30 PhDs with only 900 applicants to compete with. And those applicants are of a lower quality and easy to beat I believe.
But I will have to commute 2 hours. Worth it at this point where I am now. I cannot afford to waste more months with a gap in my cv

>SWE ghosted me twice on an interview
Fuck you bitch you get paid 6 figures to drink late by your desk at home, just fucking join the call and drop the leetcode on the google docs, you can watch anime while I solve it.

>>107179900
>I could have been born 50 years into the future when AI has ushered in a luxurious utopia where nobody has to work and we can pursue whatever dreams our hearts desire.
lmao if you believe this, maybe in china there will be an extremely watered down and nihilistic version

>>107186119
>>107186147
>>107186181
they usually do this after churning through a bunch of candidates (or picking the most retarded ones) and desperately needing to finish some project

>>107189147
Gonna keep it real, you haven't even gotten into the shit yet. First, you need to get your numbers up. You need 2-300 applications a week MINIMUM. Fucking minimum. As proven by your 0% interview rate. Second, the moment you put in an application or do an interview, move the fuck on. It's over. Get your ass working on the next one, if it moves on to another interview or job offer great, but don't expect it to happen in the least. Finally, disavow any notion of being treated with an ounce of dignity or respect throughout the process. Ghosting is the norm and even more common than the word "unfortunately". If you get down on that, you're fucked. That's all my advice. God bless, good luck, and fuck you and die.

>>107186479
they can threat rajkumar with deportation and he has a culture of serving and worshiping upper classes

>>107190092
>200-300 applications a week minimum
if you’re using AI to mass apply to every possible job sure, but I can manage like 10 applications in a single day before burning out

>>107187395
I swear to god the people who write rejection email templates are fucking cuckshit enthusiasts, because half the time it feels like they're channeling the shit mindbroken whores in NTR doujins say.
>"We're so sorry, anon. We were really impressed with your resume and work history, but we just can't live without this other candidate's skillset anymore."

>>107190173
>if you’re using AI to mass apply to every possible job sure, but I can manage like 10 applications in a single day before burning out
Then you're a fucking pussy and aren't going to make it. I do them myself individually and using a browser extension called speedy apply to auto fill out the forms for me. Your new job is applying to jobs full time for free. If you burn out, you go homeless. I don't make the rules, but this is what you're competing with. Nut the fuck up or die penniless.

Get away from the big cities and everything will work out (unironically). Look at this situation as a matter of extreme survival like a zombie apocalypse.

>>107190339
My small Midwest town ass is still unemployed after four months of nonstop searching. The fuck am I supposed to do, off myself?

>>107190501
move to the moon

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>one week to grind 300 leetcode problems
I'm going to blow my brains out

i cant believe trump fixed the economy... finally... all it took was invading those fucking mapleniggers... glass em like the fucking iraqis...

My dad lost his 30 years career in tech after being asked to train his Indian replacement when Biden was in power, it doesn't matter who's up there, we are all getting fucked by H1B slaves.

>>107190339
I once got denied from an internship for a defense company on a military base in some middle of nowhere flyover state that I applied less than 10 minutes from applying to. I suspect it might be because I currently don't have any kind of clearances, but seeing as I'm an American citizen with 0 drug use or criminal history, I should have 0 issues obtaining one.

>>107190832
>2 new posts
nah it was probably because you don't live anywhere near it, aren't at all qualified for it, and the job listing was made specifically for a particular retired officer anyway

>>107190832
>defense company
I got hired at one recently and their stories of the kinds of retards who apply are truly outrageous. I had a lil' imposter syndrome but hearing who else even applied and got as far as an interview cleared that right up. I think normies just get THE ICK and don't apply in the first place so the only people they get applications from are either lunatics, people who think it's free money for no skills, or often both

How do I 'vibe code"

>>107191133
Open up ChatGPT
Tell it to code you something
You are now vibe coding

>>107190828
Maybe he should have tried being smart ?

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I yearn for the day China nukes washington and sends all of the finance sector to be re-educated at the bottom of the ocean

>>107190832
Are you too stupid to fill out an SF-86 by yourself?

>>107190828
good, fuck that boomer

>>107190501
Literally just start your own business, it worked for Alex Karp and hes a nobody who just had a good idea

>>107191193
Is ChatGPT the best at coding?

>>107191443
yes and if you dont use it your banned from Faang

>>107190092
Not that anon but I have never submitted more than 2 resumes between jobs and finding new work.

>>107191621
>Not that anon but I have never submitted more than 2 resumes between jobs and finding new work.
It took me less than 5 to get a cushy corporate job in a fortune 500 company when I got out of college in 2018. I assure you things are much different now.

I got an offer and accepted it (verbal offer from both hiring manager and HR person) but I also was interviewing for a second, higher paying position at the same company and I did really badly during interviewing for the second position and now I'm afraid they're going to retest me for the first position or recind my offer entirely or something

I know this is completely irrational but I just want someone who was in a similar position once before to tell me everything is going to be okay please tell me everything is okay

>>107191676
I wouldn't know, been in the same agency since 2011.

>>107191621
i complained for ages about not finding work but in the grand scheme i probably put out less than 100 apps. idk where all these plebbitors are even finding 100 different tech jobs to apply to. people going on about doing hundreds per day must be applying to the same min wage grocery store positions several times over or something

>>107176484
>Chinese women
I kneel. I *kowtow*.

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>>107187469
We are suffering a condition.

Tense Thursday
Follow-up Friday
Somber Saturday
Suicide Sunday

>>107188202
It's precisely because the work can be so complex and high iq that hiring is so difficult.
You can take any retard with a business degree and slot him into any business division and it will work out fine.

>>107190861
It's an INTERNSHIP.

I just had the most bizarre rejection ever

It was for a spring intern/co-op role, and appears to have been an autorejection owing to how quick it was. But my account on the company career portal also got inexplicably deleted. I'm wondering if this is somehow me getting blacklisted, but I never blatantly lied about anything - all my experience is stuff I've genuinely done, and I was honest about my grad date (they were accepting May grads). I tried to create a new account using the same email, and it allowed me to.

when are jeets gonna start dying because of overworking since those roaches are willing to do 60 hr weeks + on call?

Got a quant intern interview in a moment that I'm most likely gonna fail even though my current employer already referred me there

They said just try it so here goes ig

Thought about learning a new stack, but how would I ever get a job over someone else who has commercial experience in that stack in this market? Demoralizing.

>>107191411
>hes a nobody who just had a good idea
Therein lies the problem - I don't have a good idea.

>>107193851
But like wtf do I do

>>107193809
They just lowball and then scam their employer and enshittify the industry, they will not drop dead, just grovel when their incompetence is uncovered

>>107191941
I don’t think hundreds per day is realistic if you are at all self-filtering jobs you credibly could do, I’d say 100 a week occasionally is realistic, you should be checking every few days for new postings

>>107191694
Depends if the same people are doing the interview and how big the company is, likely your first offer won’t be rescinded, the only people who might know you even applied twice would be HR

>>107191621
It has taken me generally a couple months since starting to look to find new jobs in the past, usually I’d get a crop of apps to work on and one would accept me, it seems to me like there is a lot less out there and I’m getting more rejections. Hard to say whether it’s the same or not since at this point I have the pressure of being unemployed

My old strategy was to only apply to companies directly or accept internal recruiters, I now field calls from anyone and it’s more or less a waste of time to talk to external recruiters with all the ghosting and lack of follow up, out of 100 I get maybe 1 chance to talk to the hiring company for a job that is probably dogshit/contract work anyway. I completely ignore Indian recruiters as they typically don’t even try to match your skills to the position, American recruiters consistently follow up with that at least and put your information in their system for future calls (only had this referenced once)

>>107190339
If you have that mindset you probably never should have gotten in tech in the first place, tech is far removed from survival needs and the skills you’re building depend on general peace and stability, you tend not to develop any skills that you can exchange in a small town but instead generally are a corporate cock sucker and you have to make up for your lack of skills that would help your ordinary fellow man by your disproportionate ability to earn currency

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I FUCKING SUCK AT LEETCODE

>>107194159
samsu

>>107194065
>Depends if the same people are doing the interview and how big the company is, likely your first offer won’t be rescinded, the only people who might know you even applied twice would be HR
Thanks for replying. It's a huge company and it wasn't the same people. You have calmed me down slightly and now I can pass out after a night of restless sleep. The offer should come today or tomorrow..

>>107193865
>Thought about learning a new stack, but how would I ever get a job over someone else who has commercial experience in that stack in this market? Demoralizing.
The only way is to contribute to open source projects. If it's a big enough project using your stack you could probably pretend to be part of the organization and get away with it lol

Is working for free the way to go in this modern economic dystopia? Basically the same way it's always been for artists trying to start their career. They always had to start out doing free work for exposure before they could start charging money for their work. Is that the direction programming is going in now too?

>>107193851
I guess you should read that green book about passing the quant interview

Why don't any of you just start your own business? If you think current hiring standards are too extreme or retarded, just be your own boss and hire all the other autists here trying to get their foot in the door.

>>107194575
Maybe if you are comfortable living with your parents, just out of school, and getting paid in equity somehow. The issue is that you want to leave a paper trail, even getting paid a paltry sum would be better, just so you can have W2s that can be validated long after you leave. If that's a feasible option, I'd look up what kind of paper trail is left behind, I wouldn't work for literally nothing.

>>107194895
Technically that was the goal of /sugma/. But the main problem is that it's very difficult to come up with a tech niche where we could get rich, because everyone has already thought of everything.

>>107193865
Just lie on your resume, say that you were using the stack you just learned instead of the stack you actually used, it will be so much harder to validate that. I would also clean up your LinkedIn by removing specific technologies. That's my plan anyway.

You hear people bitching about lying on their resume when they have nothing to back it up, but you do have something to back it up, and it's not that big a deal since moving between say frontend frameworks like Angular, React, and Vue is not that fucking difficult that it takes years of work experience starting from the bottom to acquire, you can figure it out on the job or at most with a 4 week study.

>getting back into applying again
>there's actually job listings that are more than an hour old that don't already have 100+ applications already
what happened?

>>107194906
Who the fuck is validating W2's? That's just a form that's sent to the IRS for tax purposes. Nobody cares how much you were getting paid at your last job. I'm just taking about doing work for free so you can list actual real jobs on your resume instead of persona projects, because that seems to be the only way to get your foot in the door of this industry now. Also for someone like me, I have no ideas or motivation to do any projects on my own. Having someone else give me a project to do is a lot more motivating even if they aren't paying me anything.

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>>107194915
>if I'm not going to become a billionaire overnight then it's pointless
Nigger do you think every startup company's CEO is Elon Musk? I worked for a handful who's self-imposed salary was 70-80k, roughly the same as the 10 people working directly under them.

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>>107194895
i tried this and it didnt work
>no businesses wanted freelance AV/IT support, they all have service contracts with vendors
>homebrewing booze was fun but no one bought any off me nor commissioned a bottle when prompted
>tried pad/stick repair for FGC, they're brand obsessed niggers who seethe if it's not Sanwa Certified Professionals touching their stuff
>not enough capital or lack of retardation to build electronics from scratch
>eventually got a job anyway

>>107194942
All I'm saying is that W2s leaves a paper trail for when you get a background check or whatever, I'd rather have that paper trail if say the company goes belly up, it doesn't even have to be W2s, just something that validates that you worked there

I think you just don't get what I'm saying, because you've never actually held a tech job

>>107194915
I bet if you offered free consultancies for small businesses to find ways that puters could make their numbers go up then they'd be freaking stupid not to pay you for the software. You need like 5 10 guys though. 1 guy poking around is suspect but 10 guys are trustworthy.

>>107194966
Employers ask you to show W2's from previous jobs to verify you worked there? I've never heard of this before.

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>>107194966
Just shut the fuck up about W2s you disgusting little nigger and get the fuck out of my thread.

>>107194979
You haven't worked at a big company then.

>>107194974
NTA but I have toyed with the idea of doing exactly this. Setting businesses up with basic CRM software (ticketing systems, etc.) would be cheap, and I could charge them monthly for the service since most of these businesses don't have the time or patience to do it themselves.

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>>107194995
Post hands Mr. Turd World /pol/ poster.

>>107194951
>>107195018
Shut the fuck up furfaggot.

>>107194979
It doesn't have to be you submitting your W2 to an employer, but if you have a W2 there is probably some verifiable information about you that would come up on a background check

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>>107195018
Right after you post your brown hand with the thread in the background you piece of shit kek

>>107194998
I'm not planning to either. The perfect career for me would be doing freelance dev work for clients for the rest of my life. Working for a corporation sounds like pure hell, especially in this modern era.

>>107195036
Enjoy having no benefits or retirement. You will freelance "comfortably" into your 80's until you can no longer deal with your joint pain, at which point you starve because you had nothing saved up.

>>107195100
I don't have to worry about retirement because I'm an only child and my parents are upper middle class bordering on rich. I just need something to hold me over for the next 30 or so years until I get my inheritance. Also once you hit 65 you get free health insurance from the government.

>>107195100
You do know individuals can get on a health insurance plan without being employed somewhere, right? It's more convenient if your employer offers it, but it's not impossible to get decent coverage as a freelancer.

>>107195148
anon you're talking to a thread full of phoneposters that can't conceive of a way to get a real computer except by being issued one for "WFH" and loading Steam onto it

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>>107178399
I went there and is probably a job that "maybe" i will have to unload trucks.

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> current state of the tech industry
> spend 4+ years training at a horse stable
> pretty good at horsing around, but lacking professional experience
> suddenly a bunch of donkeys flood the market
> originally they're much cheaper and do terrible work
> through nepotism they now cost more and are even more terrible at their job
> also automobiles were just invented

>>107195238
kek, you're a shelf stacker

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>struggling with jeetcode easys
>121. Best Time to Buy and Sell Stock
>Time limit exceeded

>>107195371
how's the post-op treating ya

>>107195390
hows being 35 and unemployed treating ya?

>>107195401
nope, you still don't pass :/

>>107195371
Isn't it just iterating once through the array to find the smallest number and then iterating a second time to find the largest number after the first one? I thought leetcode was supposed to be hard. This is like CS 101 level shit.

>>107195417
Oh wait nvm, I guess the real answer is a nested for loop that checks the difference between every pair and returns the biggest number. Still basically CS 101.

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>>107195451
>is a nested for loop that checks the difference between every pair and returns the biggest number
that fails.
There's a case with like 6000 numbers that will exceed the time limit if your solution is O(n^2) complexity :^)

>>107195459
Where does it say there's a time limit? The question just asks you to give a working solution.

>>107195475
>Where does it say there's a time limit?
it doesn't
you just have to know that n^2 is not an acceptable solution for a problem this "easy"

>>107195493
Acceptable by who? Is the automated test written in a way that it fails you even if it passes because you didn't follow this unwritten rule?

>>107195558
>Is the automated test written in a way that it fails you even if it passes because you didn't follow this unwritten rule?
yes

>>107195565
What's the point of that? Why not just specify in the question that it has to O(n) or whatever?

absolute state of this general >>107195417

imagine memorizing leetcode questions by name/scenario. absolute jeet behaviour

>>107193851
Update about my quant interview I fucking failed spectacularly

Couldn't even make it through the stage with the tech bro grilling me and my projects/experience before absolutely breaking down

>>107195613
I didn't memorize anything, I just looked it up to see what the question was. I've never even done a leetcode problem before because it seems like a giant waste of time that has nothing to do with software development.

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>>107195613
I don't care if it's "jeet behavior"
employers care about it and leetcode questions are gating me from a 200k/yr job. I will grind these 12 hours a day until my next interview. I know they're worthless and they have near zero real life application, but it's what I need to do to get where i want. I had an interview with google a few years ago where they started asking me diversity questions ("how does diversity help improve the workplace?") and I froze up. I am not making the same mistakes, whether it's leetcode or behavioral shit I will memorize everything and give them the perfect responses. I will give them zero reasons to not hire me.

>>107195614
what did you do lol
I've had some terrible interviews too. All of them were pretty much terrible.

>>107195738
>employers care about it
they are ALL H-1B jeets, correct?

>>107195738
Why do you need a 200k job?

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>>107195826
So I can maximize my chances of projecting my inward consciousness out into the world.
You can cope and cry about h1b jeets and jews and whatever the fuck, but there is a reason why the world is the way it is. Powerful people with connections, money, and influence decide how our society is structured, and how it runs. You want to kick all of the jeets out of the country? Well good luck, you're competing against elon musk and larry fink, and they have billions of dollars. If you want to be a counter force to their influence, you need to step up with billions of dollars of your own. And the way to maximize your chances of becoming a billionaire are by joining the top companies, working for the most influential people, and being in a position to capitalize from any opportunities that come your way.
Elon Musk didn't sit in his basement and complain about jeets, he went out to silicon valley and took money from jews. And now he's a billionaire, and he can lobby the government to do whatever the fuck he wants. If you want to fix problems, you need to get influence and power. And yes, in our case that starts with grinding leetcode. Who's going to take that 200k job? You, or a jeet?

There is nothing wrong with being Indian.

>>107195738
>>107195905
Mumbling nigger

>>107195942
stfu jeet, go back to India

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>>107196257
Genuinely don't know why you people ever bother shitposting on a Mongolian basket weaving site

>>107195738
Someone riddle me this: how does leetcode get you through the application page if your resume sucks? I've seen everywhere online touting leetcode, but what use is leetcode when they reject you during application? Or is there some other way of applying I don't know of yet?

anyone else have massive bags under their eyes from lack of sleep and stress of not having a job

>>107196619
no because stressing out only makes things worse

>>107196456
it doesn't and no one is claiming that

>>107195614
Based, death to the finance industry

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I have been treated like a subhuman during my job search with people never responding to my follow-ups after a screening call or sending my resume. However, I have no one but myself to blame for being a shitty developer with a trash resume. I could have improved my skills during the last 6 months of unemployment but I wasted all that time browsing the internet.

>>107196619
Haven't checked the mirror but I slept for about 4.5 hours last night so I definitely fit the "lack of sleep" criteria.

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here I am thinking leetcode is great for best practices and understanding computer science, and then I learn this shit
>algorithm A loops through the array 4 times
>algorithm B loops through the array 2 times
>they have equal time complexity, O(N)
>an interviewer would probably see both solutions as equal

>>107195738
Thank you for this post. I have a few high salary interviews next week and its a reminder of how stiff the competition is. I'll be prepping my ass off on the tasks listed in the job description and my fundamentals. Not to mention rehearsing my past experience. I'm not just gonna put food on the table, im snatching some fat IT faggot's sandwich out their hands and stomping their dick in the dirt.

>>107196881
The interviewers (and I) were all chinks, the company was HQed in China

Uber based for you, assuming you're not a chink

Thought things would go better than the jeet interviewer from last week, but nope

>>107197576
based, good luck anon. steal some jeet's job. (unless you're competing for the same job as me, in which case I hope you mysteriously fall ill next week and miss your interview)

>>107197136
I have never done any "leetcode" in my life, but that last line there is a pure fiction of yours.

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>>107180878
>a grown ass man using an anime drawing of a little kid as their github pfp is quite strange

>>107184171
>I suspect, p({game}|{political orientation}) is of little use here, but do your own research to be sure
You can use Bayes' theorem to get the other one.