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>work experience
Congratulations! If you're in a situation that requires you to be here, you're probably best off working at McDonald's, Starbucks, or the local Indian or Chinese restaurant. Beats actual unemployment, as humbling as it is.

Definitely revise your resume so it's tailored more toward customer service, however.

>there's nothing in my metropolitan area!
Well now might be the chance to move to, idk, Mississippi or South Dakota. No tech jobs there, but plenty of retail and service I guess. Or health if you take the nursing pill.

>resources
Y'all know the drill. Leetcode neetcode etc.
Stratascratch, the leetcode for data engineers:
https://platform.stratascratch.com
Get a PhD if you can.
Maybe get an MBA if you can.

>coping
Find a bridge or something idk

>emigration
Consider moving to China, Taiwan, or SE Asia if you're ethnically Chinese

>pivoting
Maybe consider this too. Idk the details.
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>>107193851
Update about my quant interview I fucking failed spectacularly

Couldn't even make it through the stage with the tech bro grilling me and my projects/experience before absolutely breaking down
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No link to previous. Worthless thread. Would not hire. No wonder you're getting replaced.
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>>107195721
Quantitative analysts are rich right?
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Everyone who studied anything at business school is now rich.
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Have any of you guys taken security +? I know I know its a shit cert and I will be going into CCNA after I pass this.. I take the exam on Monday and im feeling a little tiny bit scared....
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Recruiters are scatterbrained morons, telling me they'll send me an email, ghosting me, then calling me again and having to look through their sent emails and not finding any. Another one telling me they left me a voicemail and emailng me about it, but there is no fucking voicemail
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>>107195721
>before absolutely breaking down
Like, crying and sobbing and shitting and pissing?
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Is it weird that I use AI to do most of my college homework?

I dont really see a point in putting in any effort for this shit any more since jobs arent actually hiring right now and things probably won't improve once I graduate.
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>>107196267
These people make more money than you btw
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>>107197250
/utwg/ - Unemployable Tech Workers General
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>>107197250
Why are you in this thread if you're in college?
People in college are not expected to work a full-time job.
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>>107197272
>>107197272
Im actually job hunting rn and I come to these threads bc I feel like they give an honest look at what the tech industry looks like right now that isn't sugar coated by MSM or the government.
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>>107197298
Just talked to my 80 year old uncle to rents out multiple properties and businesses. He says business is booming especially due to Christmas.
Maybe unemployment really is lower than it's been in decades.
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>>107197254
I don't think they do, at least not compared to my last salary
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>>107197320
That doesn't really mean much for tech though
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which haven state are you all running to for the american century of humilation? I've been thinking thailand recently
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>>107197357
Karoline lewitt would say: run to your mom faggot.
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Is this legit or is it just another platform for outsourcing work to 3rd worlders who will work for $5/hr?
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>>107196267
Had one contact me months after telling me I wasn't fit for the job she had cold called me about. When I asked if something had changed, she replied that she couldn't talk to me anymore. It was very weird.
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I just thought of a simple way to fix the job market overnight. Make it so that you have to pay a fee every time you apply for a job. That should filter out 95% of the applicants, completely remove the need for AI filtering, and make it possible for a real human to read through the resumes of every applicant. The fee should be something like $10-20 to discourage all the retards and unqualified people from applying. It would make the entire process of finding a job so much shorter and more efficient for everybody, both the employee and the employer. Why has this never been done before?
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>>107195721
Your interviewers probably watch codingjesus or some other fag. Most techies are insecure betas who gatekeep to maintain their own illusion of intellectual superiority and self-worth. The tech industry self-selects for them.
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>>107197298
>honest look at what the tech industry
It's not. This is where everyone who can't get a job goes so, no matter the current state /utwg/ is going to look more or less the same. It looks like things probably are worse right now but I don't it's to the degree it's made out to be here. In reality the hiring process has been pretty fucked for a long time due to the internet making it too easy to spam apply. But we are all just going to come here to whine until we get a job and that's the same as it would be if the tech industry was booming. It always takes a while to get a job and it's always demoralizing
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>>107197431
We can work for $5 per hour as well. Why don't they let us?
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>>107197749
How are you going to survive on $5 an hour? The annual salary equivalent of that is $10k.
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>>107197623
Sounds like a good idea to get rich. You can just pretend to hire people and rake in cash. I think a lot of Jews already do this.
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>>107197758
Well it's better than $0/h right now.
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>>107197761
No, none of the money should go to the employer. It would go to the company running the job board.
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If I hear an Indian accent on the line, I'm hanging up
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>>107197919
based
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>>107197357
Have you looked into the government of thailand at all? It's way worse.
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>>107197676
He's like a chinese guy so idt he knows what coding jesus is
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Employed-anon here, working as a sysadmin
My advice is apply to technical positions in non-technical companies, most people are too fucking stupid to even use excel.
I went to school for compsci, useless burn mentality career, but the skills are invaluable at writing powershell scripts to do your job for you.
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>>107198147
All taken by jeets. Next
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>>107197623
>pay $10 to apply for a fucking McJob
Nice try, rabbi
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>>107198160
Oh just apply to racist companies.
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>>107198218
Local municipality in the countryside?
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might honestly just jump off a bridge if i get a leetcode hard for this first round interview
if i survive ill keep looking for jobs, if not then this bullshit is finally over
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>>107198238
Gotta love jeetcoders getting filtered
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>>107198111
techies are all npcs. codingjesus is to quants what techlead is to faangtards
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>>107197919
I see you have racial hang-ups
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>>107198227
Sounds pretty comfy desu
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>>107198147
Thanks for the advice, anon
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>after weeks of rejections, i finally manage to schedule a one-to-one with a recruiter
>everything is going well, he tells me of a position at a company that fits my skills perfectly
>after both he and i relay our respective shpiels, he tells me that, actually, all he can offer me is a traineeship
>which is twelve months long
>and pays minimum wage
What the fuck is wrong with these people?
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FDR wanted to save us with his Second Bill of Rights
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happy Friday, aus bros. imagine being unemployed...
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>>107198894
I say take it man. If the skill set fits perfectly, use the opportunity to prove your worth. Idk I'm pretty desperate.
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>>107198173
I'm talking specifically about software engineering jobs, which are basically impossible even for qualified candidates to get anymore because they're flooded with resumes from hundreds of unqualified people, so they end up just ignoring every application. That's not going to change unless the entire application process gets overhauled in some way to stop all the spam.
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I ain't givin' up, niggas. Worst comes to worst, I'll become a maths tutor or just steal shit from Aldi until I get caught and the state is forced to feed me in prison.
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>>107198147
I'm already doing that. We're already doing that.
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>>107197766
No, it's not.
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>>107199083
>traineeship
>twelve months long
>minimum wage
Might as well sign up for WITCH at that point
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Applied for a job I'm perfect at and can walk right into 2 days ago in the evening.
Got an email back before 10am saying we'd like a phone call can you provide availability
I respond
haven't heard back.
This is like when a chick sends you "WYD", you tell them and they ghost you
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>>107199027
The government is unbelievable - there's almost 0 job growth in the private sector. Those jobs are all government funded positions. This country is doomed.
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>>107198894
>"Hey anon, I read your chat-GPT generated resume, you sound pretty smart let's have a chat"

>"oh, you're actually a retarded neckbeard. I mean, we have a traineeship quota to fill for disabled people if you're interested?"

how accurate is this? be honest
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WHY CAN'T EVEN HARVARDS SMARTEST COMPUTER SCIENTISTS AND SOFTWARE ENGINEERS FIND A JOB?
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Some info for you all - I got made redundant a few months back. Took some personal time etc. A month ago I mail-merged my resume and a short spiel on my situation and what I'm looking for to about 25 recruiters from different companies. Got responses from about 8 of them and started healthy conversations. This time of year sucks for hiring because most companies are forecasting or reforecasting (For Australians) budgets and planning for the next cycle, so the hiring will pick up again in January / February.
These recruiters have networks and access to the 'invisible' market and can get things like short term day-rate contracts and other at-need type roles. Get yourself on as many of these peoples lists as possible and keep in touch once a fortnight and you'll increase your chances of finding an opportunity. The double benefit is that they will vouch for you, instead of you being in a digital pile of 300 applicants of jeets and be missed.
There's plenty of work out there anons just gotta beat the jeet-volume problem and get to the interview stage. I assume you can all take it from there, but also brush up on your interview questions - here's a helpful interview guide if you want to review it and increase your chances:

https://wormhole.app/J98rnB#igcFFhzMV9FyX80pdqgxZA
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>>107198894
take it you paki bastard.
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>>107199310
who wants to spend 1-2 hours writing a 500 word cover letter which they don't look at unless they already liked the CV?
What are the chances that they like the CV and then say "this guy generated his cover letter so now we're not gonna bring him in for an interview"?
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Anyone pivoted to anything related to geomatics/surveying/GIS? It was a surprisingly easy pivot, programmer mindset works better there than whatever mindset they normally get trained on
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>>107199401
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>>107195728
you're all really dumb and we need lesser genetic stock to make labor chea - i mean to get better talent
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im tired bros
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I have good news.

I landed a job at Amazon today. Starting monday I'll be a warehouse associate
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>>107199604
>a (data) warehouse associate
Nice
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>>107199604
no kidding? good luck, anon.
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>>107197250
Nope. College is bullshit. When I was in college I had the mentality you couldn't cheat and had to be authentic or you weren't cut out for the "real world".

Looking back, academia is also dick measuring faculty throwing out unrealistic and disjointed gatekeeping at students.
My perspective now is I'd have used AI if I could've and 100% socialized more.
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>>107199616
Maybe xhe will get to fish in the data lake.
I heard about data lakes when studying for azure certifications
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>>107199632
What about people who get a bachelors of economics from a top 150 university and somehow land jobs while a guy who gets a bachelors of software engineering from a top 30 university ends up unemployed in this thread?
If academia is a basketweaving contest why are there such different outcomes for getting a piece of paper?
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>>107199398
In my experience over the last few months, when I half-ass apply and just chuck my resume with no cover letter, i don't hear back until the job closes weeks later. I write cover letters with effort (try not to use AI and if you do then rewrite some or all of it in your own words) for jobs that I feel relatively confident for - and for those I am at least hearing back and getting an initial screen call. Not all of them though. The CL differentiates you rom the jeets who just spam every job and shows them you're human. They're worth it for those jobs you really want.
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So anons, I've tried for months. Legitimately for months, going on a year. I live in a major metro (Raleigh, NC) and I don't even get past HR. I can't take a help desk job in the middle of nowhere for $17 an hour and still afford rent.

What now? My parents seem to think I'm a total failure and frankly I'd lean towards agreeing with them. Jeets can probably do more than I can for less money.
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>>107199670
An authentic cover letter isn't just important, its personality defining. You arent just putting in your cover letter, you're making your voice heard. *finger pointing emoji*
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>>107199657
Probably bc Economics is one of those fields filled with the most normies and they help each other get work through nepotism.
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>>107199705
When the same thing keeps happening to millions of people, it's a systematic problem, and the failure is with the system and society not the individual.
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>>107199737
Preach
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>>107199705
We got sold a lie bro.
We all probably remember it vividly, we knew how to use Windows at age 5 and suddenly people thought we were the future.
Then we learned Linux.
Maybe we built a few PCs.
Then we went off to college being told we were gonna make a career out of money sitting at a desk for a few hours a day.

Oh how wrong everyone was. We'd be success stories in probably any other decade.
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>>107199737
If the society should fail the individual shouldn't
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>>107199837
You'll have to come to terms with you'll never have as good of a job as a boomer highschool drop out had.

You've got two ways up from the bottom. You were born into the top, so you're fine and nepotism will carry you through life. OR you're willing and capable of doing zero sum hustle and constantly look for and take opportunities to fuck other people over for money.
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>>107200107
The point of saying that is systematic problems require systematic solutions not individual solutions.
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>>107200212
Coding was a fun hobby for the rich landed gentry. We invaded it and expected to be paid for it.
Did Pythagoras or Leonardo Da Vinci ever make a single dollar? No, they collected their royal pension awarded to them for their royal genes and coded for free.
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>>107200233
For most people, for all of history their immediate concerns have been a roof over their head and food. People that were born in gentry and have been taken care of by all their lives will never understand how important this is.
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>>107199657
Because it's all bullshit. College was so awful for me that I dropped out.I'm straight up a high school graduate making $165k with a WFH gig. Been here 5+ years and survived 4 layoffs. I currently am doing some modest consulting on the side because I'm bored.

Credentials don't matter. Making yourself known and likeable do.
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>>107200444
Compsci graduate here. I'm not likeable, period.
I'm not gonna kill myself though, I need to bury my parents. Then I will do it.
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Some dickhead was talking a thread or two ago about attending meetups and user groups for free food (almost always pizza).

A lot of those meetups and user groups died or are limp-dick online only shit now, but a few have come back. I have one I'm attending next week and another the week after Thanksgiving.

I will be sucking any recruiter's dick at the latter one in December.
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>>107200484
did you try a firm handj̶o̶b̶shake?
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I bombed my interview bros, what game should I play for the weekend
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>>107200650
You should be able to apply to every relevant job in your town
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>>107200671
I can afford to lose 2 days of productivity, I think I'll just get a visual novel.
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>>107200515
There will be no food, and the recruiters will tempt you with some bullshit internship
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>>107200260
>People that were born in gentry and have been taken care of by all their lives will never understand how important this is.
But they do understand. And they consider people who have to work to live to not be fully "human". Did you forget that the greco-roman nobility used to consider slaves and laborers to not be actual people? But they also believed free (not slave) laborers to lack the capacity to cultivate virtue.
"servus" - slave, legally a "thing". Not a full moral person. Denied full rational agency.
"res" - “Thing, property”. Slaves were often literally classified as property under Roman law. Philosophically, this implied they were outside full moral consideration. The English word "residue" is derived from here.
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>>107200711
It was also possible to become a slave if you got into debt or did a crime. And once you became a slave it was over for you
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>>107200515
>meetups for free food
that's what eli the computer goy has been saying since forever
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>everyone says all tech workers will be replaced by AI
>I won't
Guess my job title :^)
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>>107201017
CEO
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>>107197623
Union tradies do this for their apprenticeship programs and it works reasonably well.
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>>107201017
ai dick polisher
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Should I apply to startups offering only equity and the promise of pay in the future if they get funding, or are even these jobs flooded with applicants these days?
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good morning utwg, another day in my nigger life studying 10 hours a day for the next interview because if i fail i go homeless
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>>107197250
Once you graduate, the job won't even exist anymore. If your collage homework can be done with AI, why would anyone hire you instead of using AI?
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>>107197257
he'll soon be here dw
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>>107201195
if you have no experience then yeah
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>>107203503
What if I took a year off work to find myself and now I'm trying to pivot into another field?
Like I used to be a cloud engineer and now I want to be a data scientist?
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>>107203578
if you can afford to work for free then do it
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Technical interview yesterday. 40 minutes to implement some crud/business logic/authentication.
>"you can use AI, just explain why you're using it"
Bro, either let me use it or don't. Finished the task halfway. I was using copilot sparsely for a few things, copy pasting and explaining the code it spit out.
I went to check other candidate submissions because they ask to make the repo public, so you can just search on gh and find them. You can tell some candidates just gave the requirements to an Agent and let it run wild.
Some guy "implemented" full JWT auth but didn't run migrations at all which is the first thing you had to do in this test, classic Agent oversight.
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>>107197623
>to discourage all the retards and unqualified people from applying
Filtering the retards is the easiest thing in the world specially with AI. If you were ever in charge of filtering resumes you'd know.
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Everything will be okay anons.
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>>107204351
Sure, in like 20 years when UBI finally becomes a thing.
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>>107204506
*when land ownership is a human right
ftfy
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>>107204351
lol no it won't, everything is going to continue getting worse.
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>>107204512
So, never?
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>>107204329
AI filtering makes it so everyone has to add nonsense to their resumes to get past the filters. I tried putting mine through one of those tools and it made it unintelligible. Just buzzwords and word salad everywhere and all the meaning in the bullet points I wrote was completely lost. You're more likely filtering out all of the legitimate candidates and leaving only the retarded jeets if you use AI to filter out applicants.
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>>107203578
>Ugh.... I just need to like.... You know.... Find myself.... I'm gonna need the next 12 months off, okay Mr. Shecklestein?
I don't know what to tell you if you fail to see how this is a red flag to employers.
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I've given up on finding work. I'm coming up on 6 years now, and not even restaurants or grocery stores will hire me. I'm taking matters into my own hands and trying to build a business with my brother, but we have no money.
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>>107204601
>6 years jobless
unemployable final boss
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>>107204351
No it won't. Remember what happened to the victims of the industrial revolution.
You all always ignore it. The parents of the robber barons died of poverty and disease out in the cold.
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How easy is it to get work on Upwork if you don't care about the pay? Is it just as competitive as the real job market?
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>>107204593
Womemes love doing that shit though.
Wominx casually take 2 years off work to hold the infants and then easily come back to work.
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>>107204601
>>107204610
7 years for me and I'm almost 40 now. I spent most of my 30s being a neet because I thought I could retire from crypto. I think suicide unironically might be my only option soon.
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>>107204725
Men don't give birth, there is no excuse. And if you're seriously telling your boss "BUT THAT BITCH STACY GOT MATERNITY LEAVE!! WHY CAN'T I?!?" then you're actually insane.
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When will I be the candidate whose experience and skills are aligned with the role?
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>>107204749
Birth is just as hard on men as it is on wominx.
Also womemes take time to find themselves or travel
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>>107203578
Money is for spending on dumb shit that boosts the (((economy))): cars, clothes, shit like that
Under no circumstances can you spend your money on time itself. That is (((not allowed)))
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>>107199233
It doesn't make sense man.
I have applied to jobs where I fit 100% the stack.
I was working all these techs in my last job and have the experience to prove it.
I even provided competent and unique war stories and hack-the system stories, hand-written and very challenging and unique
I should be the perfect candidate
There's like only another 50 people who have applied.
Yet I don't even get a phone call.
Not even an interview.
They refuse to speak to me.
There's no fucking way that I was not top3 based on my resume.
I should have been called at least.

Something is not right.
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I'm going to India to take their jobs. Give them a taste of their own medicine.
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>>107204855
Considering their medicine is cow shit, you sure you want to do that to yourself?
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>>107204855
I don't know if they are being affected by this unemployment in engineering or not.
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>>107199233
I got this with a position at a company I used to work at. The job is literally what I was doing with a bit of extra help desk work, which I also have experience doing. I was on good terms with the C-suite, the CFO even went out of his way to phone some of his contacts to see if they needed any help. Only reason I got let go in the first place was reduced funding from government grants, but this new job is a core IT position, meaning if they can't pay me that means the company is closing.
I applied over a month ago, and gotten radio silence since. There's no goddamn way it takes this fucking long to at least start scheduling interviews, so I have a sinking feeling they fucking ghosted me. I know I shouldn't take it personally considering the job market, but I can't fucking help it. I don't understand how guys like us can fit the bill perfectly for a position, only for hiring teams to be like "Yeah, nah, fuck that guy". Like what are we doing wrong?
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>>107195683
my dad got laid off - he's 64
he's definitely cooked, right?
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>>107204846
You were at the bottom of the stack.
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Time to finish my very own AI that I made (forma de bayes theorem). Just have to implement bayes theorem, split the data and calculate f1 score from the test data. Tick tock anons, better give me money before I finish programming the AI that will kill you if you didn't pay me so I can make it. Cool now I can write programs where the AI can predict player's next move based on how often they chose the next move based on their previous moves. Or recommend products that other people bought after buying the products you bought I guess.
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>>107195728
Already walked back on that, as Donny two-time does.
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>>107205061
Is he french? Then he's already retired
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>>107204935
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>>107204846
Ghost jobs
https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/millions-of-job-postings-are-for-ghost-jobs-study/499415
At least about a third of advertised jobs aren't real, and a good deal of these are intentional.
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>>107197357
Is Latveria a real country?
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>>107205156
Of course a cocksucking piece of shit like her would know.
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Just gotta hold on a little longer, boys
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What makes you think you deserve a job if you can't solve something as basic as this?
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>>107205457
so this is how mtg finally gets killed off
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>>107205457
Lets fucking go, MLG
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>>107205457
How long will this take to pass? What are the chances it gets shut down?
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>>107205457
This isn't maga. She wants companies to hire untalented people.
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>>107205457
niggas that know nothing about politics think this is going to do anything
here's how it's actually going to go
>speaker will never introduce the bill into the house, so it will never get a vote
>if it does get a vote, it's not a budget bill, so it most likely needs supermajority (2/3rds) votes to pass to the senate (hint: that's not happening, every democrat will vote against this and so will half of republicans)
>if it does pass in the house, you need 60 votes in the senate
>if it SOMEHOW (it won't) pass the house and senate, the cheeto zionist nigger will veto it
>if the cheeto zionist nigger vetos it, it goes back to the house and senate where they need even MORE votes to pass it
>if it does still somehow pass (lol), it won't stop all the other jeet visa abuses (OPT, F1)
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>>107205576
All maga is, is "Give and do absolutely everything to/for Israel."
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>>107205580
Oh yeah also forgot, you can expect a few months of government shut downs over this. democrats and republicans will work together to make sure this never passes, and keep congress closed for as long as possible to kill the bill (see: the epstein files, months of early congress dismissals and a government shut downs over this)
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Ben Shapiro says you need to rethink where you live if you can't make it.
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>>107205909

Americans waking up this morning after Trunk said we need a ton of 3rd world foreign workers / students because Americans aren't skilled or talented....

Fell for it Again MIGA


https://files.catbox.moe/rx7q67.mp4
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>>107196111
yes
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>>107196258
literally no point going into IT when most of the work will go to AI, brazilians, and jeets.
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>>107197431
>work from home
>$5/hour
What do you think?
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>>107199604
>Starting monday I'll be a warehouse associate
Imagine willingly working as a slave. You'll be automated out of a job soon enough.
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>>107205457
They'll just find another loophole like using one of the other existing visas to continue importing jeets. Barring that, they'll just start outsourcing al these jobs to India instead. The only way to solve this once and for all is by making all outsourcing illegal and limiting visas to a couple thousand a year that a government committee has to approve on an individual basis. America will keep devolving into a 3rd world country otherwise.
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>>107206197
Not everybody have parents to pay for them a place to live and food to eat because they're too good for bottom tier jobs
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>>107205909
If we’re giving our opinions I think Israel shouldn’t exist and little Zionist pissant grifters should be expelled from the civilized world
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>>107199604
Lot of time money and effort to end up trapped on the gas station tier of life.
Same though.
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>>107206470
>All your data are belong to me.
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shit feels hopeless.
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>>107206545
How underage are we talking?
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We’re never getting that jobs report lol
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>>107206545
Get fucked, nigger
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>>107206693
It'll show that the employment rate has never been lower*

*employment rate is based on the amount of filled jobs x population size
(meaning that if someone takes on three jobs to make ends meet, this number will be lower than it should be)
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>>107206545
that's not some shit i'd be posting publicly but that's just me tho
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>>107206750
Fuck off spic
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>>107206800
t. niggerjeet
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>>107206841
Stop ban evading
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>>107206693
What if their competitors don't fire people? Will they take market share from Verizon?
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Well anons, 15 year sysadmin here that got laid off today. Wonderful that they did it on a Friday, isn't it?
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should i accept an offer i got from a hospitality chain that wants me to be their IT guy? not sure what they want exactly but i guess user support, looking after their network, server, ad and 365 administration
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>>107207012
You'll be running around showing sheboon nurses how to plug USB cables into USB ports.
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>>107207008
At least they told you about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUE0PPQI3is
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>>107207008
that is awful man.
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>>107207008
Welcome to the club dude. Job security is dead, and unlike after the recession, tech jobs won't be coming back.
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Received incline to hire from AWS after a month of unemployment.
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So I have passed 1 OA, 1 behavioral interview, 1 behavioral and tech interview, and now I'm asked to do a final interview with the team.

what the fuck
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>>107207314
It's happening anon, proud of you
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>>107207314
don't forget about us when you're employed...
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>>107207266
Nice
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>>107207362
>>107207429
but what about my cozy mornings playing vidya
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>>107207012
Did that, if you don't have by the rules autism it can be fine

>>107207022
can you read?
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>>107207607
the anxiety of not having a job and not doing everything I can to skill up / work on leetcode ruined any "cozy" mornings desu
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>>107207807
can you?
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>>107207810
How do you keep the hunger to become better going after you get a job
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>>107207831
Oh there are ESLs here. Hospitality doesn't mean hospital. It means "travel", usually either ticket resellers or a hotel.
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>>107207848
be better than the retards I work with so hopefully I'm last on the chopping block when the economy slows down.
If I'm stuck with indians and the manager is indian well I'm fucked anyways so idk then.
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>>107207266
what does this mean
are you getting interviews or an offer?
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nigga just wear a skirt during the interview, it is that easy
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Has LinkedIn's apply counter been glitching out today, or was I seriously the first one to apply to that job I wanted? Give it to me straight, bros.
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>>107207962
was it posted like 10 minutes before you applied or something?
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>>107207977
No, 7 hours. It's a very well-known brand, too, but the rest of their posts have pretty low application counts as well.
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>>107207984
that's very odd. Did it have extremely specific qualifications or an odd job title?
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>>107207962
>>107207984
nvm you might be on to something. I'm looking at job apps and i'm seeing shit like "5 apps" and other stuff on jobs that have been posted for a week. Something isn't right. Maybe they finally filtered out any applications from Indian (saaaaaaar) IP's
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>>107208013
Maybe it's in another language. Indians only apply to english jobs.
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>>107207906
not how it works
you have to fully commit to the tranny thing to get an advantage. they can smell transposers from a mile away. if you don't have the hrt voice (or at least the faggot voice) they'll just think you're some chud larping and get the 'ick from you.
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>>107207893
I did 8 interviews and an online assessment and received an offer. Took approximately 1 month to do.
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>>107208126
fucking nice, b.
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>>107208126
>8 interviews
fucking hell
were they all leetcode shit?
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My model is 91% accurate
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>>107208138
1. Recruiter interview + online assessment
2. Technical screen interview
3. Technical breadth + 2 leadership principles
4. Technical depth + 2 leadership principles
5. Bar raiser (random person) + 2 2 leadership principles
6. Hiring manager + 1 leadership principle
7. Customer proposal mock presentation
8. Systems design whiteboarding

I had an extra interview due to passing technical but not team fit, so they sent me to another hiring manager but I did not have to redo the entire process. No live coding was required but some OOP fundamentals did come up.
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>>107207906
I don't hire women for my team, and I definitely don't hire men pretending to be women.
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wtf now it's only 87% accurate
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>>107208201
so this was for some senior leadership role?
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>>107206545
>>107208195
>>107208322
Pedophile spic ban evading
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>>107208328
For midlevel/L5 consultant position.
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>>107197250
>this is pointless
>I'll just keep doing it poorly and paying for it
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>>107208359
>jeets are flooding the coding market
>I'll just keep studying coding and paying for it
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Yeah I'm done. I'm tired of constantly learning new shit I don't care about.

I'm going into wastewater treatment.
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>>107197250
if you are still studying cs you arent serious about getting a job anyway, so no its not weird
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>>107208201
tech industry is fucked because tech is full of losers who are pathetic enough to put up with all these hoops
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>>107197250
Jobs hire if you're good, grind your ass off while you're young that's literally what you're paying to do.

Take it from me a math student in the late naughts before AI but still had wolfram, you'll regret it
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Millions of people enrolled into computer science this year.
They took a look at this job market and said they wanted that.
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>>107208573
You can always sign up for one of those underground chinese assembly lines here in 'Murica
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>>107208573
I keep telling myself if I can't get nothing by the end of Dec...going back to my old career skills. Sucks. But it pays and I can just shoot the shit. Just zero future of wfh.
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boutta boot up
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>>107208695
I’ve been saying this for years. Then again, this is the central problem with and entire point of jeeting an industry
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>>107208695
yea, this is honestly some bullshit. Every other industry is pretty much two interviews. HR "are you a retard or autistic" screener and then a hiring manager.
I get wanting to make sure you don't hire a shitter but you can manage that with one technical interview...
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>>107207906
instructions unclear, did skirt go spinny and ended up in the basement of a portland transbian polycule
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>going through the leetcode problems tab for the company im interviewing with
>half of the problems marked as "easy" aren't easy (even by leetcode standards)
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>>107209021
you sure bro? post a few.
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>>107209026
1971. Find if Path Exists in Graph
696. Count Binary Substrings (O(N^2) fails)
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>>107208573
I already applied to that and didn't get in.
Background in bioinformatics by the way
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>>107209042
dijsktra's could solve the first one, not that it is optimal or necessary. or just do DFS right.
#696 I'll give you...this one actually showed up on an OA I had and I hadn't done this style in a while. Shit sucked.
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>>107208695
The post you're replying to isn't a bona fide hiring process, it's ~8 people trying to evade responsibility and cover their own asses by having ~7 people they can point fingers at for the sake of plausible deniability in case someone's a bad hire. It's profoundly hilarious that some of the top orgs of this world are riddled with people who are actually deathly afraid of even justifying a single hire by themselves, such is the "management" style of betas.
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>>107208782
Every faggot zoomer thinks they'll be the next Zuckerberg raking in trillions of dollars from their own social media platform.
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>>107209156
it would be a benefit for all if Ycombinator went bankrupt.
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>>107197250
not weird, just incredibly stupid and short-sighted. either change your major or drop out since you obviously are not learning shit. life isn't some game that you can cheat your way through, we shall soon see a return to true normal: those who don't work don't eat.
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>>107209042
696 Feels like an easy O(n). You just need to find the largest substrings, and the rest is math. Say you find 00001111, that's 4 substrings. (00001111 000111 0011 01), feels like it's for a n length substring, you get ceil(n/2) sub-substrings within it.
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>>107208782
No they didn't. CS enrollment in 2024 dropped more than 20% from the year before, 26% at the top schools. It's probably going to be an even bigger drop this year.
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>>107209221
yeah and if you didn't figure that out, you failed
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Why are so few people applying to a high tier job like this one? Did Epic Games somehow discover a jeet repellant strategy?
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>>107209247
sometimes you get problems that just don't click. Shit sucks. Need to do hundreds of them to avoid that. Who the hell has the time...
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>>107209129
8+ rounds is going to be the new norm. FAGMANs already have 6 rounds now days.
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>>107209224
I think he meant in brown countries. They saw what CS grads can get in terms of jobs here, and they all want the milk and honey, and white bobs.
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>>107209259
linkedin is showing very low app counts today for some reason. For many jobs. Someone fucked up somewhere because I know for a fact this job, at IBM, had thousands of applicants.
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>>107209292
>he bought premium
loving
every
laugh
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>>107209312
free trial. cancelled it before they charged. $30/mo is ridiculous and premium is honestly useless.
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>>107205108
Who gives a fuck about your shitty larp. Eat shit and die.
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>>107209379
Apparently, no, they don't need me.
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>>107209259
Game dev is flooded with experienced candidates and those positions have been open for months. Hiring manager is delusionally looking for a unicorn.
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Graduated comp sci more than a year ago and haven't gotten a job. Was gunning hard for job in government but it didn't go through. Thinking about just pulling the trigger and try to go back for grad school. At least then my parents wont think I'm a total failson. Plus, I'm interested in research and the thought of having to slog through tech interviews makes me vomit.

My only problem is going back to my professors to beg for recommendation letters. I wasn't a bad student really, I did have to retake calculus a couple times, but mostly its just embarrassing to have to admit that I haven't done anything of value after one whole year of leaving school.
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>>107200107
Society won't fail over code monkeys. Society runs on food, shelter, and crime prevention. The existence of social media or random e services isn't necessary.
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>>107209478
You don't even have a job kek
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>>107209509
Except I do. Getting a job isn't hard. Getting a dream job is.
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>>107209349
Tick tock little neety. Just 6-8 months and me scrounging up just 4k for my cs bachelors then ill find a job paying 60k in less than a month or two and move out and have sex and prove that it really is just negative nancys posting here.
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>>107209224
It's still too high.
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>>107209413
99.9999999% of those applications were for the goon squads who roll around and snatch beaners. There's plenty of IT/technical positions that need filling most people don't qualify for.
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>>107209472
If you need 12 months to "enjoy life" then you are either retired or crippled. Most people, myself included, go stir crazy after not being productive longer than a week, 2 at max. You are defective and are rightfully being removed from the gene pool.
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>>107209531
You must be new to these threads because there are plenty of posters who cry about not even being able to get basic bitch work at their local mcdonalds/grocery stores.
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>>107209617
Nah I lurk here all the time. Anyone saying they can't get a burger flipper job or a warehouse job must be extremely autismo.
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>>107209540
Not high enough according to Trump.
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>>107209538
>tfw employer is paying for my degree and I spend most of my work day playing video games anyways
Having a comfy state job kicks ass. Would highly recommend if you can subsist off a modest salary.
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>>107209478
Society won't fail over every farmer, construction worker and policeman suddenly dying. Society won't fail because most people think they have a point while they actually have none, either.
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>>107209599
good goy
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>>107209672
Disagree. If every cop in america died tomorrow it wouldn't be pretty.
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>>107209685
If every cop in America died tomorrow it would be paradise. White people would finally be allowed to gun down feral niggers without fear of glowniggers throwing them in rape dungeons.
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>>107209685
A few hundreds of thousands could die, but society would live after figuring out how to create an effective police force again.
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>>107209702
Nah you're just mega schizoing.
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>>107209685
>he doesn't live in a state with high gun ownership
Any problems would self correct overnight. An armed society is a polite society.
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>>107209685
Americans will just police themselves.
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>>107209707
>if cops cease to exist we'll make new cops
waow
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>>107209715
Am I? Explain why George Zimmerman had to go through a lengthy trial risking life in prison just for defending himself against a feral nigger.
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>>107209737
Because all killing should go through a trial?
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>>107209745
Feel free to request a trial when you're getting stabbed to death by your pet negroids kike.
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>>107209762
I would hope there would be a trial for the nigger who shanked me.
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>>107209737
I'm sure you're a white person who had an education and you can name the plays by Aeschylus that deal with the issue of why achieving justice through courts of law is important.
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>>107209762
I won't have to, because I wouldn't put myself in such dire circumstances.
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>>107209785
But you are not white enough to understand that even Jesus himself criticized the Abrahamic laws in front of the fucking Pharisees.
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>>107209702
nigga you literally wouldn't do shit lmao
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>>107209835
Christcucking on a tech board isn't an argument.
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>>107209847
This general is infested with jeets, spics and suicidal NEET's. Which one are you again?
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>>107209835
I'm white enough to not take a levantine goat herder's mythology seriously.
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>>107209875
Thanks for proving my point
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>>107209860
I'm an EB-1A from Russia. Process control systems and systems automation. Mostly do blazor nowadays though.
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>>107209860
he's clearly an unemployed 35 year old xillennial manchild
you can tell by his use of the word "christcuck"
all millennials are mind raped faggots angry that their parents took them to sunday school
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How the fuck does IBM have so many open entry level positions? Some of these even say only a high school diploma is required.
>https://www.ibm.com/careers/search?field_keyword_18[0]=Entry%20Level&field_keyword_05[0]=United%20States
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>>107209989
they are one of the most indian companies there is
here is a result from googling "ibm software team" which shows some interns from 2007-2008. the jobs arent for you timmy, theyre for hard working chinese spies and 70 iq indians. you can google and see yourself.
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>>107210087
me on the top right. good times.
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>>107210087
>hire 90% jeets and chinks
>company becomes irrelevant
no one will learn from this btw
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>>107210140
>google
>microsoft
>apple
It's jeets all the way down.
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>>107210140
Somewhat unrelated, but if a company is being penalized by a bank for not meeting certain diversity requirements, it will inevitably reconsider its hiring strategy. I’m not defending diversity hiring as a concept though.
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>>107209665
careful buddy, a few days ago i had to deal with a sperg in this general who rage-reported all my posts because i was employed and happy
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>>107210398
That was me. Are you still mad about it?
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One of my old coworkers is asking me if I'd be interesting in coming back to the company that laid me off
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>>107209902
35 wouldn't really be xillennial, those people are in their 40s now
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>>107210456
They're desperate for people in the know, demand your current salary + 50% or your old salary + 100%, whichever's highest
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>>107209989
they will send you an OA, you ace it, they see you don't have an indian name and then they deny you.
They are one of the most jeeted enshittified companies out there
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A few days into my first term on this extra degree that I totally didn't need because I already have a tech degree in actually having some fun. MBAs are pretty much theme parks compared to our tech degrees.
Now that I am doing this, I can mask my unemployment with upskilling because business retards are firing all the science bros. Business must be the winning team.
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>>107197250
it depends on the course. if you have a bullshit essay for a required general education course then fuck it. it it's something you actually need to know for your career it's better not to cheat.
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>>107209259
you have to create yet another fucking account at the employer's website, only to get ghosted afterward. fuck that
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>>107210614
always has been. those who came before us willingly subjected themselves to corporate cock without a second thought and so software engineering was never taken seriously.
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>>107210409
>That was me
it wasnt, i can tell
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>>107209665
what do you mean a state job? where do I look?
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I turned my retarded friend regularly trying to talk shit, flirt, or just interact with random hispanic people on the internet and having me do the talking because i know semi fluent spanish into a marketable skill.
Thank you illegal immigrants for not knowing even the most basic level of english, i can finally quit tech for good
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>>107211078
Yes I was, and you can't get over it, it seems
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>>107209665
Kill yourself you retarded furnigger you do not have a job you have never had a job.
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>>107211638
Why are you following me around?
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>>107211700
Kill yourself leaf you do not have a job you have never had a job.
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>>107211711
I made a post in /twg/ and you started to spam the thread 10 minutes later, a bit too obvious don't you think?
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>>107211737
It is obvious you are posting in both threads nigger furfaggot you have never had a job don't post on /g/ ever again.
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>>107209413
Imagine being stupider than the beaner hicks applying for ICE

If you can't even get hired by ICE you are truely NGMI
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>>107211768
I know exactly what you are doing and goddam you are lame as fuck. Call me when you submit a fake cybertip to the FBI with my IP address or something you retarded beaner
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>tranny leafnigger furfaggots get jobs instantly for free
>I have literally never even gotten a single call back
Is it jews?
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>>107211789
What did he do?
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>>107209665
Kill yourself delusional unemployed furfaggot
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>>107211825
I used that proxy site a few weeks ago and now I have my very own beaner stan following me around every time I post on /g/, prolly on /v/ as well
I told that furfag to fuck off once and now he is falseflagging as me lmao just how stupid can brown people be ffs?
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>>107211868
You are literally a furfaggot canadian and fully unemployed, do not post on /g/ ever again.
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>>107211868
>>107211789
>I used that proxy site a few weeks ago
KYS pedo zoophile.
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>>107211884
Im surprised you havent posted your collection of s0ijaks at this point, are you posting from a cellphone by any chance?
>>107211895
s0ijak.party is that way, Paco
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>>107211901
Kys you fucking furfaggot you are not even employed and you are Stolen Valor. Hope no Patched Up real vets hear what you've been saying about US DOD networks :)
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>>107211901
u literally posted that pi isnt 2 lmao
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>>107211916
I can't help but notice you havent denied being brown up until now, curious!
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>>107211927
And you have not denied being canadian furfag or nigger. Uh oh looks like you lose. I am american and you will never be american you will never have TS SCI clearnace. :)
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>>107211090
Just get a Clearance, moron. If you aren't a retard, you should be able to get at least TS/SCI.
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>>107211935
>I am american
Spoken like a true beaner
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>>107197250
Use it to help you do your assignments, not do them for you. AI tech is here to stay and as a software engineer you will have to integrate it in your workflow or you'll fall behind all your peers who are already using it.
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>>107211976
You are not even inside america you will never make big TC. noclearance nojob nobennies notc nigger kill yourself you fucking leaf nigger furfag you have never had a job you will never have a job.
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>>107211991
Thanks for proving me right, have a good one
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>>107211999
You will always be canadian and an animal rapist and unemployed. stolen valor nigger.
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>>107195683
>Get a PhD if you can.
this is a shitpost right? a phd guarantees continued unemployment
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>>107212239
This. A PhD will always prevent you from getting a Clearance. Everyone knows that anyone who goes past a BA of Comp Sci is a libtard who will just sell secrets to the russians, chinks, and leafs.
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>>107197250
why would anyone hire you and not the AI that did the assignments for you?

the point of school is learning, retard. nobody cares about the output of the assignment, they care that you ran it through your brain and can now do it yourself.
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>>107209531
>Getting a job isn't hard.
how many jobs have you landed? how long ago?
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>>107212250
>the point of school is learning, retard.
No it is not. It is about getting that degree to get past the HR filters to make big TC. Anything else is brainlet cope. If you weren't a brainlet you wouldn't need to go to school to learn about Computer Science you would just read everything you can on the subject and never stop for anything instead of needing to be a spoonfed skid in (((college))) to learn how many volts are in an amp or whatever kike parlor tricks they teach these days.
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>>107212250
https://www.ibm.com/think/topics/prompt-engineering
Retarded furnigger.
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>>107208695
they've got 5000 applicants for every role, might as well filter hard
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>>107208695
Why are you too stupid to figure out the hoops and know the answers instantly?
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>>107212292
I'm not reading your jeetblog
>prompt engineering
it's not 2022 anymore. nobody does "engineering" of prompts to the instruction tuned, RAG and tool use enabled flagship chatbots that do anon's homework

chances are whatever gay shit you try will just decrease performance by going out of distribution
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>>107212284
>If you weren't a brainlet you wouldn't need to go to school to learn about Computer Science
school forces you to learn the shit you don't find interesting. which is exactly the problem here, you're not taking advantage of the one good thing about it
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>>107212338
If you aren't interested in Computer Science you don't belong on /g/ and don't belong in this world. The entire global economy runs on Code. The future is Software Defined. Adapt or die.
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>literally $0 net worth nothing to my name but a shit car
>bank account at -7 dollars
>jobless for 6 months

i want to die
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>>107212442
Why are you poor? Literally just start a successful business. Look at the market, it's been easier than ever.
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>>107212284
But I am a brainlet. That’s why I went to school
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>>107211299
How do make money from scam mexican
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It's great that every CEO at once said fuck countries and governments and economies, let's just make as much money as possible right now and fuck off to Shanghai or whatever to fuck 13 year olds with big CRISPR naturals.
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>>107204734
You didn't know how to retire correctly and put your money in something that would keep paying dividends, right?
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>>107204351
Lol no if you don't have a trust fund or are top 20% CS talent you're fucked. We're all fucked. The only thing we can do is fight but we won't.



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