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>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch? 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"
Redstone "Ray Regeneration" is in Black Ops 7
New Steam hardware

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

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>>107217220
>Workstation: Radeon AI PRO R9700
kill youself shitstain nicotroon faggot

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What are the technological implications of this?

>>107217156
master "cooler"

I bet you "cool" a lot.

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Is this the Titan Lake thread?

>>107218816
>Intel Titan Lake is a rumored future CPU architecture, possibly launching in 2028, that may abandon traditional P-cores for a unified design of up to 100 E-cores
Wtf i need this. Nova lake is irrelevant now

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>>107218816
this is the radeon thread

I bought 9070 xt

>>107219034
If you're happy with it, I'm happy for you.
What did you play? Did you tune it yet?

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How can AMD be stopped?

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>>107220023
Call of Duty benchmarks don't move the needle.
Radeon cards have consistently managed that game well.
The vast majority of PC gamers don't care about Radeon rendering more frames in COD benchmarks.

>>107220023
That usually happens when amd drivers are broken and aren't rendering certain graphical effects

>>107220023
quick summon the 7 paid nvidia advertisers who brigade this thread

>>107220720
You don't even play COD: Black Ops, make sure you frame that benchmark since it matters so much to you.

>>107220704
right
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/nvidia-accused-of-cheating-in-3dmark-03/1100-6028894/

>>107220756
>3DMark 03
>03
LMAO. NVIDIA of 2025 is a completely different company. Keep living in the past.

>>107220023
with ray tracing

https://www.costco.com/p/-/msi-codex-r2-gaming-desktop-intel-core-ultra-7-265-nvidia-rtx-5060-ti-8gb-windows-11-home-32gb-ram-2tb-ssd/4000375972?langId=-1

Should I go for it lads?

>>107221648
8GB VRAM kind of sucks but use the PCPartPicker builder to compare it to the cost of building one.

>>107221648
You don't want an 8gb gpu, especially in a $1200 prebuilt

If I want to do gaming but also other stuff, should I get the 285k instead of the 9950x3d? How much is the tradeoff between the two processors?

>>107221832
In gaming (when cpu bound) you're looking at usually like 20%-ish of a difference, sometimes less, sometimes a bit more. Probably worth if you don't care about that difference.

>>107221832
9950x3d is much better for games, but you might have to use project lasso

planning to get a 9060XT 16GB for Floyd Friday, any reason I shouldn't?
>inb4 AMD
I gayme on Linux

>>107221908
Interesting. How much worse is the 9950x3d for non gaming compared to the intel, and which card/brand would you recommend pairing it with? I was looking at the 5070ti. I don't want something to break because I have heard about the 50 series and the connectors burning (not sure if brand specific or in general).

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>>107221935
If you're happy with it, I'm happy for you.

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>>107221942
IDK where you're getting this 9950X3D FUD, it's a great workstation/gaming CPU.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-9950x3d/

Check the workloads where it falls behind the 285K, and if that matters to you.

https://www.samsclub.com/ip/ASUS-ROG-Gaming-Desktop-PC-AMD-Ryzen-7-3700X-GeForce-GTX-1660Ti-16GB-DDR4-RAM-1TB-HDD-Windows-OS/13579424134?classType=REGULAR&from=/search

lmao

>>107221942
>How much worse is the 9950x3d for non gaming compared to the intel
Depends on the workload, just as a whole I would overall call it pretty much a tie.
>which card/brand
An msrp 5070ti you choose off of aesthetics

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>>107221943
saw one on "early Floyd Friday" sale on Amazon, so I bought it
was only 480 moosebux

Can I get a quick recommendation for a cheap wireless mouse? I'm retarded and feeling overwhelmed just by looking through Amazon.
I didn't see a thread for mice so I assume asking here is close enough.
>Budget $50
>USA
>Mouse can be charged via cable instead of requiring AA batteries
>Prefer no extra buttons. Left/Middle/Right click is all I need. I'll settle for two extra buttons if I have to-- I can just disable them.
>Quiet or silent clicks for late night faps

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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

YOU WON'T OWN NOTHIN GOYM

>>107222263
From a previous discussion.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106823974/#106824438

>>107222286
thanks bro

>>107222291
The wireless VXE R1 Pro mouse in that post should be good and within your budget.
https://www.atk.store/products/vxe-dragonfly-r1-series-wireless-mouse?variant=44857375555802&country=US&currency=USD

A reliable mouse reviewer covered a slightly higher-end VXE mouse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBRAOsRuCNs

Do PNY 50xx cards still have the issue mentioned in >>107217156 ?

>>107222187
That's awful lmao. But with ram prices skyrocketing is there any prebuilt (not that one obviously) that would actually be worth it now?

>>107222303
Thanks, VXE R1 Pro looks good and I might get that if I don't find anything else. From what I can tell from YT reviews, it's not as quiet as I'd like. So I'll keep looking for now

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>>107217156
I'm dicking around with an old HP Entertainment laptop. Needing to repaste it, but in doing so, would require taking the entire laptop apart, so if i'm going in that deep, i may as well upgrade the cpu.
Is the performance difference between an i7-740qm really any worse than an i7-820qm or 840qm to where i should look for those instead? Either would be an upgrade and I see 740qm's for $5 or so vs $20-$30 for the latter, after shipping.

What is the best manufacture for 5000 series right now? I've never been so confused trying to parse through all the different fucking models from every manufacturer for the same chipset (5070ti).

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Leakers said there is a good chance Nvidia Driver 590 is coming next month alongside Shader Model 6.9 which is almost done, Dying Light the beast with path tracing may be used for showcase it during CES, If its not ready it'll be Resident Evil, There was also a rumour The Witcher 3 new DLC will be announced soon with a tech demo running this shit

>>107222726
Nvidia also updated their a course to their game dev youtube channel 2 days ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHKayVNqosE

Imagine paying a $300 AI bubble tax on all cards right now
I havent used an AI leveraged by any of the major corpos that hasnt been absolute shit
Why do we put up this and why do normies buy into it?

>>107222745
Anon, a 9060 XT is less than $400. Are you seriously suggesting a 9060 XT is only worth $100?

>>107222664
Probably Galax, MSI or Asus.

>>107222749
>9060 XT
who the fuck would buy this even without the AI bubble?

>>107222772
I did. It replaced my 1080. I want to keep my AM4 system running for at least four more years and a 9070xt or 5070 would have required a new psu while the card would get bottlenecked by my cpu. The 9060xt made sense.

>>107222821
based and 1080pilled

>>107222647
Difference in general usage is going to be borderline non-existent

>>107222772
I did, replaced my GTX 1080 and I don't goom at high refresh. I play at 1440p60 and plan to upgrade to 4K60 eventually. The 9060 XT is perfectly adequate for that.

>>107222907
do the math though.
you could buy a 9070xt or a 5070ti and not have to spend anything for nearly a decade.

>>107222929
A 9070 XT costs literally twice as much, so if a 9060 XT is good for at least half as long, it's cheaper on a per year basis.

>>107222968
yeah but not by performance.

>>107223130
You might be surprised at how little GPU you need to play games at 1440p60.

>>107220720
>brigade
hello plebbit
now go back

>>107223169
sure but how about 7 years from now?

>>107223200
Look at how much games haven't advanced in the past 7 years. You really think the next 7 are going to suddenly be any different?

Surprise its a good idea to spend more money on a pc part since you get better quality gaming and it lasts longer before you must replace it

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>>107220756
>amd shill has to resort to news from over 2 decades ago
lmao

>>107223213
yes?

How far away are we from burn in being a non-issue? Like 8 years ago I remember hearing about microled and thought we'd have that by now.

>>107223566
the issue has been around since Plasma displays were a thing
Personally I've owned an OLED for 5 years now and as long as you arent an idiot keeping it on a single frame you are finee

>>107217156
Fuck the people saying that gpu prices only go up at the end of the year were right
FUCK

>>107223566
It's manageable if you keep SDR brightness around 100~150 nits (adjusting for ambient lighting) and toggle HDR on for HDR video/gaming like you're supposed to.
This should get you at least 5~7 years of usage.
If you're the kind of person to buy an OLED monitor today, you'd be okay with buying a better monitor within that replacement timeframe.

If you nolife video games with static UI (especially white ones) and HDR on, you're accelerating burn-in.

>>107224511
If the user has to cripple their monitor and actively worsen their experience just to prevent burn in then it is very much still an issue.
The problem will be solved when the average OLED(or whatever might replace it) owner thinks about burn in as much as the average LCD owner

>>107224586
>cripple their monitor
SDR content is mastered to be viewed at 100~150 nits effective peak brightness.
Maximum brightness retards are the ones crippling their image quality.
HDR brightness is already targeting TB400 or 1000 nits peak brightness.

>The problem will be solved
OLED will always have burn-in issues. Just don't buy it and keep using LCDs until non-organic solutions are affordable.

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Buying list for this black friday

>A poverty tier 27" (or 32") 1440p 180hz IPS
>A 20-30€ cooler to replace my stock one, i dont need it but it will be a good excuse to clean the pc, and reapply the paste
>Any of these GPUs that happen to have a discount 9060xt/5060TI 16gb versions, 9070/xt, 5070/TI
All that would go with my AM4 setup, then a few months after i have recovered i'll think on getting an AM5 setup together and transfer the card and monitor
Thas all thanks for reading my blog on how to be fucking poor and hate every single second of it fuck my shitty as life at least my cat is cool as hell.

>>107224838
Sounds like you have more money than me. Human beings are faggots.

>>107222199
What was it before the discount?

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what's the catch here?
Looking at how the current ram prices are, and having some laptop modules to spare, this shit looks appealing.
Looked around and found out that it won't post if ran together with a normal module

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>>107223566
you can get 1440p panels and even 4k 240hz ones on sale for like 500
minimum time frame 3 years warranty due to burn in 500/3 = 166 shekels a year to run an oled, if you can't afford that honestly reconsider your life
"but I expect my monitor to last forever!" fuck off, LCDs last forever meme is disproven and can die at any time due to shitty manufacturing now a days
your life is finite, technology is not eternal, stop coping and spend more money and earn more money, simple as

>>107224511
redditors burned in their qdoled running conservative nits in sub a year
but I suspect that certain guy had something faulty that made his pixel refresh not trigger or something like that which literally fucked up his monitor 3 times in a row or something the way that retard went through them like butter and RMA'd them every time
I think that particular case was severe user error

>>107224586
lcds are not immune to burn in either
the point is what point does it become so bad that it's noticable in normal content? there are levels

>>107224838
ETA not being poor?

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Is this salvageable? Can't tell if it's a burn mark (meaning short) or just a bent pin not making contact and drilling into the PCB instead. Motherboard does not power on (spins the fans for a split second, then turns off), but I don't know if it's because a bad pin on the board or the CPU being dead.

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>>107225258
pic from my other camera.

>>107225162
>LCDs last forever meme is disproven and can die at any time due to shitty manufacturing now a days
>lcds are not immune to burn in either
Burn-in is not an inherent property of LCDs, though. Yes, the backlight can burn out, there can be issues with the manufacturing process leading to blueing or other types of degradation, but it's not an inherent property unlike OLED. My last monitor lasted me 7 years of hours of daily use without any visual degradation whatsoever, and I only retired it because I got an HDR monitor.

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and the bad pin.
I hope it's just bent but it looks burnt instead.

>>107225281
since the pin and pad are discolored, i'd say its a burn mark

>>107225258
>>107225267
>>107225281
Looks like a burn mark.
How long have you been using this CPU, and which motherboard are you using?

I can't pick a case
every case is terrible

>>107225162
>ETA not being poor?
not anytime soon anon, but thanks for asking.

>>107225315
AyyMD and Asrock

>>107225321
Get an open air case.

>>107225362
>and Asrock
GL dealing with the board RMA, fight for a refund if you can.

Some Korean guy got taken for a ride by ASRock and their Korean service center.
The board owner believed their claim that the product was fine, killed 3x Ryzen CPUs with that single board.

>>107225295
Should I not bother debugging this with a new board/new cpu, because if the CPU is bad, it can kill a healthy board, and if the board is bad, it can kill the CPU?
I considered getting a new socket installed professionally, but now it sounds like I might need a new CPU instead.

>>107225315
Asus b850 tuf, fully my fault since I was dicking around. Either the chip overheated because the cooler was not making any contact, or not all pins made proper contact with the socket. Which one is more likely to cause a burn like that?

>>107225422.
Don't tell ASUS anything that might get your RMA denied.
AMD should send you a replacement CPU.

>>107225453
won't work since it's my fuckup entirely.
I just need to know which part is dead so I know if I have to replace both or just one.

>>107225513
I'd replace both.

>>107225513
When dealing with RMAs, you need to pretend to be an 80 year old woman.
>I think my computer is dead and my grandson told me to talk to you???
>Your motherboard is dead?
>What?
>Your motherboard?
>Hello, I've mailed the part my grandson told me was the problem to the address on the website

why is hynix a die best

>>107225513
It's technically possible to fix the board if you have steady hands and can bend the pin back into shape
The CPU is likely toast though

>>107225654
Those chips offer the best combination of high speed + tighter timings.

>>107225654
its capable of running the tightest timings by far, even better than 24gbit m-die by a mile

I dunno from what i've seen any kind of socket damage they refuse rma totally

my 10700k and 6600xt cant even get 60fps in minecraft bedrocks fancy visual (shaders) mode
fuck amd

>>107225751
pretty sure minecraft bedrock uses more CPU than GPU. get a better CPU

>>107225764
its only using 24% of my CPU

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>>107223541
I kind of agree with the other anon. Especially if you're not playing AAA bloated slop the 9060xt should hold up, especially where you're not targeting high framerates which is what can really strain older hardware. Future proofing is kind of a meme anyway since you can always make the argument to spend more on something like a GPU, but then you need to buy say a better CPU to fully take advantage of it and so on. Kind of a money trap.
t. using GTX 1080 as my daily.

is buying an used 4070 super a good idea?
currently running a r5 3600 and a 5700xt with 16gb of ddr4 ram

>>107225628
won't work, I'm not american.

>>107225669
yeah, I could even professionally resocket it. But if the CPU is toast, then that's that.

Oh well, back to the trusty old Cezanne. Unfortunately it's on a half dead b550 board, but it still works with some bugs.

>>107225812
If you can afford it, sure. It's a big upgrade. You're gonna want to upgrade the CPU since it's the bottleneck.

Just fucking tell me how to bypass the 30% RPM bullshit in my GPU.

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>>107225654

>>107225864
The AIBs can't and you can't
Nobody can

>>107225864
you cant
rip out old fans
put in new fans
control it from motherboard

>>107225812
>is buying an used 4070 super a good idea?
depends on price & condition obv but its a big upgrade over your card

>>107225864
Unplug them.

>>107225887
GPU might not boot if it doesn't detect a fan.

>>107225864
anon i hope im wrong but i have seen in my magic 8ball that you wont stop fucking with that 5080 until you break it
please stop

>>107225892
they dont use fan connector on watercooled cards. its powered through external rad.

>>107225902
Fan schizoes are going to fan schizo.

You people are no help.

how much does having a dual bios matter

>gpu not at 100%
>CPU not at 100%
>neither overheating
>55 fps
explain this

>>107225957
It's a safety net if you want to try out other vBIOS with a higher power limit.
A quiet BIOS fan curve can be useful to normies.

>>107225967
Are you sure your CPU is not 100%?
If even one of the cores are 100% then it's still running 100% even when the rest are only running 50% or some shit.

>>107225967
Modern game code or the user's system config error.

>>107225967
gpu/cpu utilization is just core utilization
you can be vram/ram bottlenecked. not capacity but speed.

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Meme or actually useful?

>>107225987
none of them are at 100%

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>>107217156
Any chance graphics cards be on sale for black friday, or just bite the bullet and get one now since my current card is having v ram failures?

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>>107225864
>>107225902
inb4

these youtube 5070ti reviews are all useless every single one is seething about pricing and availability

>>107225999
proof? open afterburner and show all cores.

>>107226010
i mean... is what i personally would seethe about

>>107226010
its a 9070xt with driver issues thats sometimes less expensive but often times more expensive.

>>107226005
You don't have to mess with the heatsink screws for a deshroud mod.

>>107225967
slow ram

Asus Prime is cheapest 5070ti with a dual bios but it looks so crappy

>>107226041
its embarassing that bottom tier cards like prime and ventus are same price as premium amd cards like nitro

>>107226051
Wasn't Prime one of Asus' top series?

>>107225995
Useless/possibly harmful.
There's no need for it, there's no need for a heatsink on the edges, there's no risk or danger with spilling TIM... And if it's 0.1mm too thick it will make the cooler not contact properly and possibly crush the cpu/bracket.

all i wanted was that 18GB 5070
My whole build will be at least $400 more than I ever wanted to spend with ram going retard now too
Fucking AI

>>107226079
Prime is ASUS' new entry-level/SFF model, TUF is midrange, and Strix/Astral are the higher-end cards.

>>107226103
Oh, yeah. I forgot Asus had dumb names. And I forgot about Strix.

>>107226079
Prime is bottom tier
TUF is above it
Strix next
Astral next
Matrix top

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>>107226103
There's also ProArt in there somewhere.

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>>107226032
>>107226015
Im using 3 out of 8GB of vram and 10 out of 32GB of system ram

>>107226141
Old slow cpu, what is your ram clock and timings?

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>>107226158
perfectly fine

>>107226182
it's fine but not good, is that b-die!?

>>107226187
thats irrelevant

>>107226202
ez 3600-4000 cl16

is anyone actually buying this 200% inflated ram

>>107226249
i boughted
i plan on getting into ai so i plan on buying them anyways.

>>107226249
I did because I'm not a poorfag

>>107226255
the ai fever

>>107225622
>I'd replace both.
I can't afford that at the moment.

oh well, it was a shit motherboard to begin with.

Was going to try one of these stress test programs. Is it ok to still browse the general while It's running or does everything else need to be shut down?

I just can't get the 5070 nvidia already burned me with the 3070 8GB once before history will repeat

>>107226381
Save for a month and get the ti dummy.

>>107226378
It's fine just make sure you don't hit the page file

>>107226381
Which is why I went from 3070 ti to 5080 this time.
Probably not an upgrade I needed desu.

>>107226403
>make sure you don't hit the page file
Sorry I'm retarded what does that mean?

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this case has a cutout so the 12v2-6 cable won't have to bend neat

>>107226416
Make sure your ram usage doesn't go over 80% to avoid many ssd writes.
Page file is virtual ram stored on the hard disk.

>>107226378
It's best not to touch it.
What are you stress testing? Most stress tests can be done for an hour if you're impatient.
I wouldn't do a full CPU stress test for more than 2 hours. GPU can run for however long you want but I usually do 4-6 hours. RAM stress testing takes me 4 days since I need it to be really stable.

>>107226381
Could be worse, you could have been memed into buying a 6800 or something.
Get a 5070ti then tard

>>107226474
Oh I wasn't going to do anything that complicated yet. I haven't even done any oc or undervolting or anything. Don't even have pbo turned on just basic expo. Probably not going to do anything beyond that for my ram I think it's too complicated for me. Just wanted to do a basic test to make sure my parts wouldn't blow up before I tried playing a game. If it worked I was going to try a game and if I can get it to run well probably not do any sort of oc'ing. I would rather run graphics a little worse and make my computer last longer than push it to the limit and have it burn out earlier.

do you prefer VA or IPS nowadays? I'm on an older TN monitor

>>107226606
both are outdated ewaste. buy an oled

>>107226651
With how I use it, any OLED would be burnt garbage in a year or less.

>>107226606
an oled with an ultra high refresh rate in 1080p mode
Or a va panel if you're poor, do whatever it doesn't matter
>>107226671
mini led

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxXZKBeb4cQ

HUB is so trash lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlhIZoY6JpE


seems like youtube has a few of these these intel boomers that took a massive retirement package back in 2024 bored as shit and now doing content with their insane setups lol

I did some changes

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r8MFzP

Opinions?

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>>107227039
Not the D15 G2 unless you really want it.
Do you have a specific need for an X870E board? Are you reusing your existing case?

>>107226713
He's right though, the average person has no need for overclocking.

>>107227039
You don't really want our opinions. You already know what we said about your shit list.
>overpriced AIO
>using Gen 4 NVME on a NVMe Gen 5 motherboard
>buying ATX motherboard when you'r eonly plugging in a GPU
>a 1000w PSU when you don't even need it
Just fucking buy it and shut the fuck up already.

>>107227039
BORING
>9070XT
LMAOOOOOOO

>>107227097
Yeah, they gotta sort that vram out, ridiculous stupid shit.

>midrange gpu
>9800x3d
>air cooler
Why do people do this? Do they hate god?

no, they're just stupid

>>107227141
Not that thing but I have an air cooler on 9800x3d cause my corsair water cooler failed when updating bios and fried my motherboard. Tossed that shit out, got an assassin air cooler and have been stable 55c heavy load on 3090ti as well. 32c when nothing going on.

>>107227055
i never used liquid coolers
and Yes reusing an old case

>Do you have a specific need for an X870E board?

idk just think that was like the "best" chipset for gaming, should i consider x670e? x850?

>>107227081

>using Gen 4 NVME on a NVMe Gen 5 motherboard
idk it was my first pick

>buying ATX motherboard when you'r eonly plugging in a GPU

i have others stuff to plug/use

>a 1000w PSU when you don't even need it

Yes, i know is overkilled but i dont want to get short in power

>>107227097
boring? how and why? i dont understand

what's a good price for:
Crucial T710 2TB Gen5 NVMe SSD with Heatsink

>>107227185
well don't do that

HELLO RETARD

QUALITY MATTERS

MORE THAN

BRAGGING RIGHTS

>>107227235
if it works, it works. I don't need it to be silent, I just need it to work.

>>107225362
PBO?

>>107227217
>Yes, i know is overkilled but i dont want to get short in power
You do know if you go too high on your PSU the effectiveness of it decreases? If you are not using at least 80% of that PSU then you're effectively buying a bronze PSU, rather than gold.

>>107226133
buyooooooo

>>107227267
>I just need it to work
So like a lot of shit is shit because of shitty opinions like human shit may shit out.

>>107226133
is the type-C thunderbolt, or just a displayport for homosexual monitors?

>>107227329
USB-C

>>107227039
random warning that the M2.2 slot shares bandwidth with the cpu on that motherboard, another anon was asking about it last thread
not that you'd care if thats your only disk, just keep in mind for future storage
Absolute overkill on the psu but you aleady addressed that
Absolute overkill on the cpu cooler the 9800x3d isn't even that hot of a chip, fuck me 180$ on a noctua cooler
i would go with a 9070xt if its due to budget (its probably the best card price/performance) but if you can swing it i would pick a 5070TI

>>107227347
yeah but is it for data transfer or just video out

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>>107227141
>5070ti melting
>9800x3d exploding
>with shitty overpriced ram
>all in a chinese hotbox

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>>107227355
Video out

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>>107227039
https://us-store.msi.com/Motherboards/AMD-Platform-Motherboard/B850-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI
msi plug for a fairly meh (but not bad) mobo and cheaper 9800x3d

>>107227368
that's gay, I already have DP for that and want high speed 40gbit USB-C for external drives

>>107227385
Yeah, I honestly don't know why people would use that over DP or HDMI. Seems like a weird addition. Maybe it's for people that use tablets? But I don't get why people would use a tablet. Drawing tablets use HDMI and DP and only handheld tablets still use USB-C.

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>>107227385
get a better mobo, fagboi
are there even data transfer TB GPUs out there?

>>107227445
>get a better mobo, fagboi
good mobos cost money
my b650m cost me like 75 euro kek
>are there even data transfer TB GPUs out there?
that's what I was asking, so I guess not

>>107227468
>money
fair point. Insane deal ngl
>TB GPUs
I guess it would be possible, albeit only realistically achievable on Gen5 x16 and with a variable amount of driver overhead

>>107227380 Thanks for your advice

>>107227141
Air coolers are better fr the 9800X3D.

its over

JUST SPEND $600 ON RAM IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D (Purchased For £275.00)
CPU Cooler: ID-COOLING FROZN A620 GDL (£49.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus ROG CROSSHAIR X870E HERO (Purchased For £325.00)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 96 GB (2 x 48 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 (Purchased For £260.00)
Storage: Western Digital WD_BLACK SN8100 2 TB (£209.99 @ SanDisk)
Video Card: MSI EXPERT OC GeForce RTX 5080 16 GB (Purchased For £910.00)
Case: Antec FLUX PRO ATX Full Tower Case (£149.99 @ Scan)
Power Supply: be quiet! Power Zone 2 850 W 80+ Platinum (£115.99 @ Overclockers)

It's all coming together boys.

>>107227570
We told you to buy ram last month, everyone should have cheap ram already.

>>107227579
based
>>107227570
You had several opportunities to buy even after the first jump in price, it's always going to be something so don't be a waitfag.

>>107227579
These are fake price I don't but it. 9800X3D for £275?

>>107227584
I was waiting for Nova Lake & Zen 6 to fight it out next year. Will things be better by then?

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>>107227626
AliExpress Special.
It seems genuine. I've given it a look over. But, the real question is going to be how it is when it arrives.

The ROG Crosshair is a refurb, and Ebay are doing a 20% offer on black Friday stuff.

>>107227632
lol no
maybe if you have am5 now you could slot in a better cpu
trying to build a new PC next year will be impossible BUY NOW

>>107227644
>It seems genuine. I've given it a look over. But, the real question is going to be how it is when it arrives.
What I meant say was "The real test will be how it is once the other parts arrive and I test it", but I got distracted whilst typing. Sorry, I'm retarded.

>>107224561
congrats anon, which board did you go with ?

>>107227745
are you retarded?

I tried OCing my 10700k. i gave it 1.28v and set it to 5ghz but task manager said it was at 6.5ghz. i ran prime95 then it froze

>>107227217
>idk just think that was like the "best" chipset for gaming, should i consider x670e? x850?
I personally landed on an x670e board because the lack of usb4 meant for no PCIE lane switching bullshit. you can also find high end boards of a lower chipset with higher quality and more features than a low end board of a higher chipset

>>107227764
HUB tried to warn you, overclocking is pointless.

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>be me
>using OCCT for the first time
>AM5 on Loonix
>no voltage monitoring ootb, can't afford modprobing the required hacky drivers during uptime
>only single core benches on CCD1
>look up scores online
>similar, within margin of error score from mine, from the same country pops up
>guess it might be some OCCT specific thing, not sending in the exact same score idk
>VCORE (MAX) 1.39 V
how fucking worried should I be? PBO is off, CO -20
does OCCT send stuff w/o a loicence, even?

>>107227763
what, why?

>>107227764
Maybe HUB was right

OC is pointless if you are retarded

>>107227217
There's no gaming performance difference between a B850 or an X870E board.
This X870E Strix-H has a few more USB 3.2 G1 ports and is slightly cheaper than the X870E TUF you picked, very similar boards where the TUF has a PCIe Gen 3 x1 slot.
Discount ends today, though.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xkqNnQ/asus-rog-strix-x870e-h-gaming-wifi7-atx-am5-motherboard-rog-strix-x870e-h-gaming-wifi7

This discounted Gigabyte X870 Aorus Elite is also a decent pick if you don't need the additional PCIe lanes (discount ends today).
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/836NnQ/gigabyte-x870-aorus-elite-wifi7-atx-am5-motherboard-x870-aorus-elite-wifi7

Keep the NH-D15 G2 if you don't mind the premium; I understand both sides.
You don't get to build a PC very often, so you might as well pay the extra if you really want the best tower cooler.

>>107227802
It just overheated its fine. I set it to 4.9ghz and it only got to 78c.

>>107227799
Set a CPU VR Voltage limit in the BIOS if AMD exposed that option; 9800X3D's Vcores shouldn't need more than 1.35V for a daily system.

>>107227818
Thanks for you information anon, i will go for the X870E Strix-H

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>>107227579
good for you londonistan anon
everybody in these threads end up with oversized psu, i dont think i have ever seen a 5080 list with an 850w psu in /pcbg/

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I understand is probably not that simple & i understand this isn't the most demanding game
But if those are my RTSS stats for this game while 1080p@60hz
Does that mean i could feasibly be playing at 1440p@120hz (for example)
What i mean is that the fact that both my gpu and cpu (5600x 3060TI) still at 50% roughly on this game (and many others) means there is room for them to be pushed, right? Im getting a new screen soon and im worried i will need a new gpu too to play at 1400p and higher refresh ubt it seems i will be fine right?
Please excuse my dumbness

>>107228007
50º not 50%, im not tracking cpu use but the gpu hovers around 40% or so on this game
not that much higher on Ninja gaiden 4 either (which i hated but thats another story)

>>107228007
that game looks like shit

>>107227969
I had wondered if I should go for something with slightly more overhead to see if it'd allow me to get better into the efficiency sweet spot.
But, I think a fair amount of that is just wanting the number to be bigger.

Also, I'll have you know I'm from the foking norf m8, not some soufie deano box pufta.

>>107228048
yeah im about a couple hours in and im getting tired of the environment, first map was in sewers now this shitty ass town (with more sewers) everything forgettable
You will be happy to know tho that its is ALSO terrible, its a chink soulslike and im not enjoying it, im probably giving it a couple more bosses before uninstalling.

So about my question ? ^_^

>>107228048
Well yeah, it's anime.

>>107228082
i dont even know what rtss is

>>107228007
Unlock the FPS to measure its full 1080p performance, there's around 78% more pixels at 1440p resolution.

>>107228007
Why not just run it at 1440p now and see what you get

are there any games with demos available so I can test dlss4 multi frame generation?
I wan to see how shit it really is.

>>107228167
demos? nigga this ain't 1998

>>107228167
If it supports framegen it'll do 4x. Just force it in app or inspector.
I have yet to see an example of 2x being fine but forced 4x/3x being bad.

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I was looking at occt and I noticed it said my ram was in different slots than I think they are. Or maybe I am confused about terminology. This looks like it is saying they are in slots 1 and 3 but I am looking at them right now and they are clearly in 2 and 4. I watched multiple install videos and put them in the same slots as the videos and my motherboard manual said to use. Why is occt saying they are in different positions? How can I be sure which is correct?

>>107228167
Black Myth Flukong has a free benchmark with a frame generation test, not sure if it's MFG.

hello nerds, I have been out of the PC building game for a while

I'm looking to upgrade my PSU on the advent of a new GPU, and in the past SeaSonic was always top tier
except now all of their options look like shit, are old, don't offer ATX3.1 support, or have some other problem

I had a look at the hwbuster list, and he has only reviewed like 12 PSUs
the SPL list is turbo-autistic, and gives A+ to random brands

what's the new recommendation for best PSU manufacturer? or is it now "best PSU is a specific model, not a manufacturer"

>>107228174
oh yeah I can just return the game on steam after 2 hours
I forgot lol

any recommendations on which dlss4 mfg game I should try?

>>107228174
damn unc really be askin bout demos n shit im dead :skull:

>>107228167
https://benchmarks.ul.com/news/try-out-nvidia-dlss-4-in-3dmark-

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3132990/Black_Myth_Wukong_Benchmark_Tool/

>>107228230
Damn, do you remember when everyone was calling it Wuhan Flu and then we all decided that was racist for some reason?

>>107228167
Portal RTX is an easy one if you own the Valve collection

>>107228254
>>107228230
Wukong demo is super outdated btw, it's running launch build while retail version is more updated. Same with FFXIVs benchmark but at least they have a free trial for the actual game.

Cyberpunk is DRM free and is the go to Nvidia demo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JranOxeRXHc

little timmy boy reviewed the GOAT monitor

What are /g/-approved mice?

Meshify 3 is retardedly compact and should fit a 360mm AIO but it looks so good

should my old tube of mx-4 be better than included paste for an x3d chip?

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anons. I need some guidance.
I have two CPUs: an AMD 9950X and an Intel i9-14900K. My question is, which one performs better or is better for music production? (I use Ableton/Bitwig). Second question: I have a second-hand Apollo Twin X audio interface, but it's USB, not Thunderbolt. I think I can adapt a USB-4.card, but does it only work with Intel?
Is the difference between 10gbps vs 40gbps worth it to make music? (I don't even know what that means)

>>107228280
oh yeah sounds like a plan
>>107228407
>Cyberpunk is DRM free and is the go to Nvidia demo.
gonna try that too.

>>107228481
It should be about the same. If it's arctic cooler they include mx-6.
>>107228453
Anything 1000hz polling rate or better. Ergonomics is gonna depend on your hands.
>>107228519
Intel because better memory latency from not using chiplets.

Is this good for minecraft I want to use 128 chunks for render distance
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Ghn2HW

>>107228415
>ktc monitor hits 2000 nits
holy fucking shit

>>107228602
I hope you'll be using Linux because AMD drivers have historically been very shit with OpenGL support on Windows. Minecraft Java is an OpenGL game.

what is the point of the fan pump on the liquid freezer 3 pro

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>>107228007
3060TI with a better cpu is getting 45fps on battlefield 6 at max settings.

As long as you are fine lowering the settings for performance and some upscaling you are probably fine to get 1440 and above 60fps

>>107228639
i dont play java version

>>107228648
Cools down your mobo vrms and some air blows on your ram sticks and back of your GPU. Beats having a screen.

>>107228668
>cuckrock
in that case don't worry it will run just fine on anything considering it's a glorified port of pocket edition

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>>107228415
Finally took KTC long enough to agree to let HUB review the unit without paying for editorialization. Results are basically what DisplayNinja found out months ago and we've been recommending ever since. It's a good all-around MiniLED-IPS panel that excels in what strengths remain for LCD over OLED (text clarity, brightness, and lack of burn-in potential). Something that really bothers me though about this and most other Dual-Mode 4K panels is they don't use integer scaling for the 1080p@320hz mode which is FUCKING RETARDED and I can't see how that's even possible as it's the least computationally intensive form of scaling in existence. Like what the hell are they using instead? Fucking Lanczos or Spline64?

>>107228759
the msi shills on reddit (there are actual msi paid shills on /r/monitors and /r/oled, videocardz had an article about it) have been trying to shit on this monitor and recommending the e16m every time its mentioned

>>107228770
wtf and i have been shilling the msi cpu/mobo bundle in here for free?

Is a 5080 worth it or nah (over the 5070ti).

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>>107228415
>'WHAT IS KTC?! /PCBG/ IS INFESTED WITH CHINKSHIT MONITOR RECOMMENDATIONS!'

>>107228787
50% price of a 5090 for 66% of the performance

>>107228787
No. The only GPU currently "Worth it" is the Intel Arc B580.

Everything else is various degrees of overpriced. However, if you want to play new games at 4K Native 60fps, the only card worth doing this with is the 5080.

>>107228819
4k is a meme resolution that will never be viable. We're getting close to the technical window of gpu power. There are no large gains in the foreseeable future which means 4k will never become the norm. We're stuck with 1080p forever.

Literally every other display in the world has moved onto 4K except poorfag gamers

I just bought a Hynix A die 2 x 16GB DDR5 5600 ECC UDIMM kit for 260. I didn't do too bad I think
I can't stomach paying 200 for consumer on die only ecc with rgbt lights vs the real ecc for a little more.

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>>107228837
>4k is a meme resolution that will never be viable. We're getting close to the technical window of gpu power. There are no large gains in the foreseeable future which means 4k will never become the norm. We're stuck with 1080p forever.
FUCK YOU.
https://www.newegg.com/p/3D4-007C-00047?item=9SIBK6TKKD0443

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>>107228903
That's not a video card.

>>107228903
Neat, now show me your 1% lows in Elden Ring.

>>107228787
>>107228819
5080 can't do native 4k either, but the 5090 (within reason) can.
Cope with the 5070ti or find more money
Or buy the 5080 anyways for +20% performance, it's your money do whatever.

>>107228903
>60hz/120hz 1440p
What is this 2008? 300hz is the bare minimum in 2025

>>107228927
Besides Blacked Myth Wukang demo that runs like shit and Cyberpunk with Pathtracing what games can a 5080 not run at 60fps at 4K?

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i have a 1080p 60hz 23.5" monitor that i bought 8 years ago. i intentionally have not upgraded it or learned anything about better monitors because i don't know want to know what im missing and open pandora's box.

>>107227873
upon further nooticing it seems that the entry in OCCT's db I stumbled upon is definitely not mine as the other components are wildly mismatching
my only question now is if OCCT automagically uploads anon (i.e. non-premium) results to their db or nah

>>107228415
Basically korean 1440p dvi monitors of today

>>107228995
Like any ue5 game even with tweaked settings isn't doing native 4k with a stable 60 on a 5080

>>107228927
5080 does 4k 60fps native exactly. if you want double you need dlss or framegen.

>>107229014
Such as...

>>107229014
Valorant is UE5 and its getting 4k 100+ fps easily.

>>107229073
to be desuhonest Valorant and similar UE5 esports games barely use any of the engine's features like lumen and nanite

>>107229088
the most popular unreal engine titles are all multiplayer, not singleplayer. multiplayer needs to tone down their specs to attract a wide audience. marvel rivals is also ue5 and it just got a ps4 port.

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Leaf fag here,

Is $779.99 CAD (560ish USD) a good deal for a 7900 XT?

>>107229107
the target audience for valorant and rivals is teens and casuals who play on console or laptop (4060 Mobile), not hardboiled enthusiasts like us who pick and choose our PC parts
really, games like Oblivion Remastered and Silent Hill F should be the benchmarks for how "good" the average UE5 title runs, and not competitive games optimized for high refreshrate

>>107229140
oblivion fell off a cliff, so did silent hill. 1-3k players on steam now.

>>107229178
I'm not talking popularity, anon, I'm talking about games which heavily use Lumen and/or Nanite.

>>107229178
by comparison cyberpunk has 30k players and it came out 5 years ago.

>>107228226
Motherboard silkscreen label: 1-2-3-4
Memory bus logic positions : 0-1-2-3

>you're fine, don't touch it

>>107229187
nobody cares about Lumen or Nanite. those games suck. devs are going out of their way to even strip it out like Wuthering Waves and they offer more dev support to AMD than Nvidia now.

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Im using a 9060xt 16gb for 4k. It works very well for desktop and in games I just reduce settings and/or resolution

what is the best wifi standard for long gooning sessions?

Can Linux even do HDR? Seems like a total mess

>>107228996
Wise, I regret going to massive 55 inch 4k. If I could take it back I would have upgraded to a 32 or 42 inch 1440p. Now I'm forced to have the most bleeding edge hardware and still can never see high frame rates.

>>107229371
you literally had a 42" OLED and memed yourself into going 55 inch for no reason

>>107229240
>it does 4K if you reduce the resolution below 4K
genius

I want to buy a monitor that is 1440p, 27", 144 hz, IPS. what are the best ones? what should I look for? what's a good price? ty

>>107229374
No I had a 48 inch 4k and went to 55 inch 4k. From what I have heard size is less important than resolution, it's more about thinking I'm just not ready for 4k.

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the firesale begins

some retards really paid $800 for this trash that lost any value in a few months

>>107229390
>that lost any value in a few months
Honestly it should be that way
IDK how this idea came about that PC parts shouldn't get cheaper or shouldn't loose value

>>107229386
Look for 180Hz as those are the latest models. Even if you'll be capping to 144 FPS with G-Sync or whatever.
I have a Samsung Odyssey G5 G50D and it's been great. Been using it for like 3 months now.

>>107229240
I just dont understand this thought process. Like why would you pick 4k screen if you're poor and cant afford beefy GPU that can actually handle 4k? Are you stupid?

>someone posted the mub ktc video to /r/monitors
>sudden influx of lies and retards saying to get the msi instead
if you want to see what actual shilling looks like, you should look at reddit

>>107229446
>actual shilling
it's impossible to have a discussion on Reddit or other mainstream social media like YouTube comments, etc. and portray Nvidia in a positive light without getting absolutely shat on by paid AMD drones from india

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>>107229120
I don't know how good the card is, but just going by price history that is a really good deal.

>>107229390
part prices follow a logarhitmic price curve mostly. look at cpu price history

I'm having difficulty sorting out RAM for my new build. It's primarily for gaming however I am doing some workstation things - photoshop, lightroom, minor video editing - and have recently gotten into minor AI stuff; upscaling, restoration and image generation. I don't mind long wait times as long as it works - I'll often set something to process and go do chores for example. I've read that AMD is not friendly for image generation but I started literally 2 days ago and don't understand the finer details. I'll cross that bridge when the time comes because it's not a focus. Current gaming focus is heavily modded Skyrim but also online games. I usually don't play AAA new releases. It's also worth mentioning that I'm irresponsible with browser tabs.

From what I can understand you have to pick a path - gaming or workstation - and stick with it, and that workstation typically prefers 36, 38 or 40 CL while gaming is firmly 30 CL.

CPU - 9800 X3D
GPU - 9070 XT
Monitor - 1440p
Budget - Unlimited, but be reasonable. Not going to pay $500 for a 1% upgrade.
Other - MUST be available from this store https://www.pbtech.co.nz/ , other stores within New Zealand aren't an option, and preferably white but it's not a dealbreaker.

These seem like my three options, but I'm unsure about configuring and tuning for AMD
https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/MEMGSK6192605/GSKILL-Trident-Z5-NEO-RGB-64GB-DDR5-Desktop-RAM-Ki
https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/MEMGSK11616/GSKILL-Ripjaws-M5-RGB-for-Intel-XMP-64GB-6000Mhz-D
https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/MEMCOR11441/Corsair-VENGEANCE-for-Intel-XMP--AMD-EXPO-64GB-DDR

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I'm in the process of decluttering tons of shit I've piled up throughout 15+ years: a few shitty laptops and 3 [spoiler]prebuilt[/spoiler] desktops(along with a bunch of other tech junk like keyboards, speakers, etc). Some of it works, some doesn't but everything is outdated and definitely not worth the hassle of sorting and trying to sell certain parts.

I'm just gonna be going through all working accessible hard drives, saving any data I might want so I can dump everything else guilt free. My question is whether PCs store any significant data in other hardware components that would be easily accessible to whoever might end up salvaging components/materials after I send it all away. Because if so I would rather just smash everything to pieces and throw it in garbage.

(And no I'm not trying to hide any illicit shit or whatever I would just rather not have people go through my personal stuff)

>>107229369
Works on KDE with recent packages. Still a little broken sometimes but on its way to being better than windows

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GOOD NEWS SHIT JUST GOT WORSE

NOW ALONG WITH DATACENTERS BUYING UP ALL THE STOCK

FUCKING PC BRANDS AND SYSTEM INTEGRATORS ARE ALSO PANIC BUYING UP STOCK FOR THEIR SHITTY PREBUILTS

BUY YOUR RAM NOW BUILD YOUR PC NOW THERE WILL BE NO FUCKING RAM LEFT VERY FUCKING SOON

>>107229628
what computer parts are affected by this? is it just wam or anything else?

>>107229628
Guess I'm living with 32GB for the foreseeable future. I should have gone for 64GB, but oh well.

>>107229566
no anon, its all on the drives. but remember a format / deleting files doesnt actually get rid of anything. you need to write over the data for it to be unrecoverable. run a gutmann pass on the drive after you have taken important data off if you dont plan on keeping it.

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YOU THINK I'M KIDDING

MEMORY MAKERS HAVE ZERO PLANS TO INCREASE RAM PRODUCTION

ZERO

THEY DO NOT CARE HOW MUCH IT COSTS

THEY ARE RAKING IN PROFITS AND KNOW EVERY KIT THEY RELEASE NOW WILL MAKE TRIPLE PROFIT SO WHY MAKE MORE

>>107229369
Windows 11 is the best for HDR, it's a shit show Windows 10 and even worse on Linux. Even then, 11's HDR support is still kinda bad.

>>107229642
everything that uses flash chips including RAM, GPUs, SSD/Flash storage, and basically every electronic item that's a full package of processor+memory e.g. smartphones, televisions, game consoles, etc. etc. etc.

>>107228787
The 5080s have some decent overclocking headroom. But I'd only feel good about buying one at like $900 and you're targeting something above 1440p for games.

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B U Y
R A M
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>>107229548
I'd get the Corsair Vengeance EXPO kit (2x 32GB - 6000MHz - 30-36-36-76 1.4v, $ 695 .53 )
You can get CL36 6000MT/s kits if you don't care about manual memory overclocking and if you're willing to trade maybe 3~5% performance at worst.

Glad I didn't wait, overpaid for 2x16GB but fuck it.

>>107229645
Thank you

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>>107229683
we all did, fren

>"We are aware of several memory kit manufacturers who have announced that they will not be introducing or launching the kits planned for the third and fourth quarters of this year," claiming instead these vendors are waiting and seeing how memory prices develop in 2026.

>Unfortunately, we do not expect any positive news on the supply end for memory chips. Reports suggest that manufacturers have no plans to increase RAM production, meaning the shortage will extend next year, and possibly well into 2027. If the situation does not change, experts say that the pricing apocalypse will last a decade.

Samsung, Micron, Hynix, they don't give a shit. All have reported they are investing into HBM and see no need to change current consumer DRAM output.

>>107229683
Waiting never works out, I don't get why people do it.

>>107229566
There are tools like nwipe.
Or drill three holes into the platter drive

I got some pretty shit ram with my PC few months ago, but at least it was 2x16GB and DDR5 with 5 year warranty for 90 euro. Last known price for that same kit is 175 euro and it's out of stock...

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>>107229704
Of course waiting can work. Do you remember crypro boom, wtf.

>>107229566
>Or drill three holes into the platter drive
Do this, you get the added benefit of having some fun.

>>107229743
Nvidia cards weren't even that expensive at that time, just hard to find in stock. Everyone wanted the AMD cards.

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>>107229753
I want to go back.

>>107224882
$540

>>107229386
If you're in the US, I'd get the Samsung G50D @ $200.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9xLdnQ/samsung-odyssey-g50d-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-ls27dg500enxza

Check owner reviews for the Dell Alienware AW2725DM, it could be decent.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JPKnTW/dell-alienware-aw2725dm-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-aw2725dm

ASUS XG27ACG was recently discounted to $200, but I'm not sure if that offer will reappear. I wouldn't pay $250 for this.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tFG2FT/asus-rog-strix-xg27acg-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-90lm0a70-b013b0

>>107229471
The 7900 XT is like 95ish% the gaming performance of the 9070 XT, 90ish% performance if we're going by RT and FSR upscaling. Its essentially about the same as buying a non XT 9070 at about MSRP.

But in terms of raw compute rasterization and vram, the 7800 XT is better I guess for 3D rendering.

Judging by how shit the PC building market is, you're better off waiting next year or 2027 hopefully when the AI bubble bursts and get the GPUs or even server components and surplus memory at a discount.

>>107229856
7900 XT is better I guess for 3D rendering'

>>107229877
amd cucking us on ram is simply outrageous.

>>107225162
>Erm your LCD will die in 20 years therefore it's basically the same as an OLED getting burn in after 3!