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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D
-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500F
Workstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D

*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5
*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, MX-4, Duronaut

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt 8gb (~$270)
-Used: 2080, 4060, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)
4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-Native: 5090

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)
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Honest question
My pc has a glass panel
The fans and gpu have no rgb lights. The fans are artic and the gpu is a 2 fans sapphire 9070

Will I be happier if I get fans and gpu with rgb lights?
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>News & Rumors
Pricing on ram anything with memory is only going to worse, consume now/in the near future
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch? 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"
Redstone "Ray Regeneration" is in Black Ops 7

>Product Notice

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.

Pic:
>>107224838
5050 on Nvidia subreddit
Previous:
>>107216806
>>107217156
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>>107229722
It'll turn you homosexual
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I like the IPS glow actually, it's very comfy
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>>107229722
>Will I be happier if I get fans and gpu with rgb lights?
Maybe for like 5 minutes. You have to remember you'll most likely be looking at your monitor 99.9% of the time. Just get RGB for behind your display or something. At least then you'll see it.
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The RAM apocalypse is here. No matter what no matter how much you may seethe you have to buy your ram now. It's only going to get worse. The DRAM manufacturers Samsung, Micron and Hynix do not care, they have no plans to make more and only want to make HBM for AI garbage instead. The RAM kit manufacturers Corsair, Teamgroup, G Skill, etc are literally holding back new stock so they can see how much more they can charge for it in 2026. They could have launched them now and have refused they want to see the prices increase. You are now competing not only with Datacenters, but major PC brands like ASUS, MSI etc and other System Integrators like Cyberpower who are also panic buying every ram kit out there. Several kits have been out of stock for weeks already. When some kits are restocked it's minimum at 100% more and usually 150% or even more. Decide how much ram you need 32GB, 64GB, 96GB, 128GB what speed and timings you want and just buy it whatever the price. Several ITT have already stated kits that used to cost 90 they bought at like 150 and are now on sale for even more than that just 2 weeks later.

BUY YOUR RAM NOW DO NOT WAIT DON'T WAIT FOR ANYTHING BUILD YOUR PC NOW DON'T WAIT THIS WON'T BE YOUR LAST WARNING I'LL KEEP SAYING IT BUILD NOW AND BUY NOW

DO NOT WAITFAG
DO NOT WAITFAG
DO NOT WAITFAG
DO NOT WAITFAG
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>>107229858
What's the point, prices already went up. It's not like they can go much higher at this point.
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>>107229722
if light bugs you while you sleep you cant leave it on overnight, assuming its in the same room as you
i'll never do RGB again

>>107229755
truth
Q__Q
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>>107229722
Honest answer? Yes, then no. Novelty wears off real quick beyond a few meme pics to take. If you want rgb get them for the room instead much better to go all in on homolighting that way much more control and choice too.
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>>107229872
32gb kits can always start from $500 like in the good old days
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Why do people say that there isn't a very noticeable difference going from a 144hz monitor to a 240hz one?
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i just purchased a AW2725DM monitor for $189.99
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>>107229873
You can just turn it off
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>>107230031
Because they haven't tried it themselves
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>>107229873
imagine putting your PC in the same room as your bed. I will have cute white/pink rgb and itll be comfywwwr
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LG 27" WQHD 200Hz 1ms GTG IPS LED FreeSync Gaming Monitor (27G610A-B) any good? Cheap at $209 [fakespoiler]Canadian[/spoiler]. Gaming, watching anime, and 2d art as a use and will be paired with a 5070 TI. Currently using old ass Dell 2412M's.
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>>107230053
>imagine putting your PC in the same room as your bed
This will immediately give women the ick, so they won't sleep with you.
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>>107230089
I ain't putting pussy on a pedestal. You're sounding like the kinda nigga that only games from a cupboard.
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>>107230089
>sleeping with women
But I'm not gay so that isn't a concern.
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>>107230107
nta but i keep my bedroom just for sleeping. PC is in the masturbatorium, no girls allowed
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Women have such poor conversation skills. They never bring up cpus.
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Clean Win11 install idles at 10GB of RAM used, 30% of fucking 32GB. peak jeet scam
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>>107230120
I have yet to find a woman who is interested in computer hardware.
Which given everyone uses a computer basically once an hour these days is really kind of profoundly retarded.
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>>107230053
not all of us are filthy rich like you!!
white/pink is cute tho desu
been enjoying teal/pink lately also

>>107230041
i couldnt turn the mobo lights off :<
qq
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>>107230089
>This will immediately give women the ick
not really a problem, see >>107229755
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>>107230141
>teal/pink
cute!


can i suck
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>>107230139
I only knew two women into computers. one was black and ugly and the other was hispanic but she obviously has a bf (also hispanic)
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girls into computers have pps or autism or both
(still would)
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>>107230062
For $209 it's fine. The only other option worth considering in Mapleland at your budget right now would be the Gigabyte GS27QA (Fast-IPS 1440p@180Hz) for $190:
https://www.canadacomputers.com/en/25-29-gaming-monitors/260163/gigabyte-gs27q-advanced-27-qhd-ips-180hz-1ms-mprt-gaming-monitor-gs27q-a-us.html
Even so, the LG might have better slightly better tuning but there's almost no reviews for either model.
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>>107230162
miku says im not allowed to be degenerate anymore
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It's pretty choked. Would the fan be better off in a pull configuration? X570 chipset, so it gets pretty toasty.
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>>107230183
Hmm. I'd be willing to go up to $300 if it improved my selection any. Worst case scenario if I hate the LG I'll give it to my mom for her miniPC.
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>>107230131
Try a custom Windows ISO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHjGV1NrO_Y
Might be worth considering the RAM shortage,
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>>107230186
I cant argue with miku :(
but still sad :(
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>>107230191
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>>107230201
Why is lower better?
If it does more stuff, it's going to need more memory.
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>>107230139
They should pretend.
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I really don't want to risk buying an OLED but I really want an oled
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>>107230278
there's no risk. what's the worst that could happen?
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>>107230193
>Hmm. I'd be willing to go up to $300 if it improved my selection any. Worst case scenario if I hate the LG I'll give it to my mom for her miniPC.
It's kind of a deadzone in the $200-400 range for LCDs.
There's a 1440@270Hz Acer for $250:
https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/acer-27-wqhd-270hz-0-5ms-gtg-ips-led-freesync-gaming-monitor-xv270u-black/19269545
But you'd need to make sure your games could reliably reach 270 fps to make it worthwhile.
Otherwise, I'd honestly tell you to save up an extra $200 and splurge for an OLED (1440p@240Hz) that will make night-and-day difference in video/games at any framerate:
https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX00134805
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>>107230191
You have a mental illness.
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>>107229722

It's like this anon says >>107229765.

It's nice, but only for 2 minutes until the novelty wears off and then it'll just be distraction.
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>>107230191
SFF is a mental ilness
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>>107230131
And people are really saying buy 32GB for the next 5 years

IT WON'T LAST
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>>107230307
>>107230320
It's for a home router/server, obviously not my gay man pc.
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>>107230329
2x32 CL30 is starting at 500+ euros, I'm definitely not buying that shit.
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>>107230201
>6gb of ram on basic win 11
TOP FUCKING KEK
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Windows 12 + basic browser will use 20+gb of ram and anyone with 32 or below won't even be able to play games. Ram at that point will be more expensive than GPU's and the way people talk about and hunt for GPU's now will be how people treat ram in the future.
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will a ryzen 5 5600x be strong enough for a 9070xt?
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Best option between these two?
https://www.newegg.com/apacer-32gb-ddr4-3200-cas-latency-cl16-memory-black/p/0RN-004S-00081?item=9SIBTCWK5E6728
https://www.newegg.com/v-color-32gb-ddr4-3200-cas-latency-cl16-desktop-memory-black/p/N82E16820012103
>inb4 DDR4
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>£220 for cl36 48gb
>i boughted
i wanna cry
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why dont you just play older games instead of spending thousands of dollars to play new games
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>>107230504
Yesn't
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>>107230510
>DDR4
GET OUT
WE HAVE BIGGER PROBLEMS
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>>107230510
>DDR4
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>>107230547
buing ddr4 for cheap is smarter then buying ddr5 now when ddr6 is right around the corner
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>>107230525
wut
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>>107230510
The VColor looks a bit nicer and has slightly better primary timings based on Apacer's official spec.
https://www.apacer.com/en/product/zadak-product/detail/zadak_memory/nox_rgb_ddr4
But I don't think the VColor is worth paying $20 extra.
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>>107230569
It's not ideal, but it'll do.
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why is there no site that lists the best ram for your cpu and the timings like there is for psu autism and ssd autism even monitors have a google doc where is the ram autism they are the most autistic too
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>>107229675
Bro's, be honest how badly did I fuck up?
A few weeks back when ram prices only started getting Altman'd, I impulsively/panic bought a kit of 6000/30 ddr5 ram.

Now that I'm actually commiting to a build I realize that said ram isn't on the compatibility list of the mobo I wanted.
The motherboard is on the qvl list of the ram manufacturer though.

The ram in question:
Gskill flare X5 F5-6000J3038F16GX2-FX5

mobo:
B850I AORUS PRO

Maybe I'm blowing this out of proportion but I'm kinda paranoid with all the ddr5 horror stories going around, though I'm really paranoid about being forced to return the kit and getting to suck the long dick of consequence of Sam Altman's actions while having to pay an extra $200 for the privilege...
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>>107230590
the best RAM isn't plug and play
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>>107230599
I don't see any reason why that ram wouldn't work with that board. But I'm not an expert so don't just take my word.
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>>107230606
well where are the ram autism discord and forums where do i have to go
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>>107230606
It should be, ram timing is the gayest thing ever invented. It's insane that they can just lie and you have to overclock once just to get the number printed on the box and then you have to go super insaneO mode autism deluxx to get real true ram power.
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>>107230611
buildzoid discord is the place for oc autism. there's also actual forums. overclock.net, hardwareluxx, igors lab, etc. not all of them are in english so use browser translate.
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>>107230450
I won't be using windows once valve releases steamOS™
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>>107230628
linux is for communists and fifth columnists
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>>107230628
based and nearpilled
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>people still using microshit windows
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>>107230599
I don't think qvl's are really that important. It's just 6000/30 it should work on any AM5 board. What's your CPU though?
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>>107230618
honestly CPU IMC lottery is even more gay. you can have a great kit that doesn't even work because your CPU lost the gacha. you have to run your SOC voltage even higher and that could end up eating into thermals/boost which could negate the speed gains.
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i hate computers so much guys i fucking hate them
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>>107230667
I want to have sex with my fat and obese computer (female) that runs too hot and idles at 200w.
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https://youtu.be/9hLiwNViMak

A GN video (RAM: WTF??) just dropped so now even more panic is going to happen better buy that ram now I mean immediately I mean right this second put it in your basket go to checkout buy now
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>>107230510
>rgb shit
neither of them.

>mam4t
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>>107230686
GN Steve knows his memory sticks, using Team Group T-Creates in this thumbnail.
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Any recommendations for electric air dusters?
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>>107229858
I BUYED
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>>107230599
you didnt fuck up at all if you want to re-sell it.
prices are going up steadily so you can still sell at a profit. at the very least break even.
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im still using 32GB of ddr4 i bought 5 years ago
im not upgrading
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>>107230719
I just bought 32GB of ddr4 for $400
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it was the first thing on amazon worked good enough i suppose
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>>107230719
i upgraded to ddr5 because i had 8GB ddr3
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>>107230667
trvke

>>107230686
fuck this gay earth
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>>107229858
>>107229872
>>107230024
>>107230714
Just FYI the whole AI shit could crumble tomorrow and your overpriced ram could be for not
Don't buy unless you absolutely have to, go fuck with your other hobbies
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>>107230719
I'm still using 32GB of ddr4 and my brother it is not enough
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>>107230686
I've seen the wtf in real time
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crypto was fucking useless, ai is fucking useless, I can only conclude that computers are gay
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>>107230737
What other hobbies? PC Gaming is unironically the cheapest hobby to reach the highest end in.
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>>107230686
Thanks for the heads up, Mr. Bezos. I'm on it.
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>>107230657
Just a 9600x, maybe a 9700x for the autism relief that two extra cores provide
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>>107230611
you can have good discussions here occasionally
but idk, i don't want to join a community, that's why i'm on 4chan
>>107230618
consider getting a macbook
>>107230626
>buildzoid discord is the place for oc autism
might be good, since it's pay to access
>>107230661
doesn't matter as much as you think it does
>you have to run your SOC voltage even higher and that could end up eating into thermals/boost which could negate the speed gains
just enable PBO
IO die isn't gonna heat up your CCDs
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>>107230751
so your only into PCs because it's top end is what you can personally afford?
I can't even begin to dissect this shit
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>>107230729
I'll check this one out.
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>>107230712
I heard there is a risk of those causing static electricity and frying parts so I'm just going to stick to canned air.
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>>107230686
How much will 128GB DDR6 cost by the time it's released?
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>>107230712
>>107230786
vacuum causes static. you want to blow instead.
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>>107230773
Yes exactly. All you need is maybe $5000 every 3-5 years to reach the maximum point of gaming PC everything included. That is impossible for other hobbies, look at cars. I have a friend that took out a $20,000 bank loan and used it all to modify his car.
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>>107230798
So canned air is the better option?
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>>107230751
gaming isnt a hobby its a lifestyle
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>>107230788
You know how people think about buying houses in 15 and 30 year time periods? Yeah it's going to be something like that.
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The only people I know who use Linux are unironically trans or whatever, and spend most of their time complaining about AI, or some youtuber they like adding a single AI image to a video or whatever the fuck. They use like 5 year old hardware and I've never seen them do anything besides post a picture of the desktop and be like "It's working. :)"
It proceeds to not work, and they spend the next few weeks doing random shit to get it working again.

They seem happy, I guess.
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>>107230806
you can get an electric blower too. hell a leaf blower works. just dont suck/vacuum thats bad.
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>>107230804
So a hobby ain't worth doing unless you can afford the best of everything?
what kind of mindset is this?
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It's not just ram and storage. I kept track of a recent build and in 3 months, we went from here:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4M3mwY
to here:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LvyWxg

Subtract about $100, since no one pays retail for Windows.
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>>107230686
lmao
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How much case is too much case?
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>>107230837
They're calling it the memory super cycle.
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how we looking boys? I plan on upgrade to the next amd top end card, but for now a 9060 xt will do the job
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>>107230837
Remember the most recent GPU shortage when prebuilts were shipped with an Nvidia 730 just so the customer would be able to turn it on and be able to play an old game on low?

...yeah, it's gnna be like that. "The NEW HP Omen will have EIGHT GIGABYTES of DDR5 ram for all your PC needs!"
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>>107230837
Yeah I've seen oldfags here already state there's been ram shortages before but this is a different beast entirely. I don't think these companies and analysts are lying when they say this shit is going to last 4 years+. Valve just better hope they bought enough ram themselves for all those steam machines otherwise they'll be hiking those prices too, shit everything is going to go up from laptops to smartphones, consoles, everything.
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just keep on waiting goy
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>>107230859
get a 5070 ti and run with it for the duration AI boom cycle
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So basically
>If you play video games in a well-lit room like the average person, go for IPS
>If you play them in a pitch black room like a freak, go for VA/OLED
Did I get that right?
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>>107230878
its are you poor? buy ktc va miniled 1440p
are you not poor? Buy oled, they're under 500€, what the fuck are you doing
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>>107230859
9060 XT is fine. Low power draw and runs great at 1440p. Nvidia has the edge with ray tracing, but it's not a huge difference overall.

Rest of the build is OK. You might want to shop around on the ram and save maybe $30 or so.
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>>107230868
EIGHT GIGABYTES? WHAT DO YOU NEED 6 GIGABYTES FOR? CYBERPUNK WILL RUN WITH GIGABYTES. 2 GIGABYTES IS ALL ANYONE CAN AFFORD IN THE WORLD NOW. YOU'RE LUCKY TO BE GETTING 1 GIGABYTE AT THIS AMAZING PRICE OF $4000. PUT IT ON YOUR BNPL RIGHT NOW
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>>107230870
Why do you think Valve hasn't given any pricing yet? They know it's gonna be bad and for a long time.
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>>107230870
>I don't think these companies and analysts are lying when they say this shit is going to last 4 years+
The problem is the AI race is volatile.
Could get worse, could get better
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>>107230859
Can't you get windows for free?
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>>107230705
Normally I wouldn't but RGB seems to be cheaper for some reason.
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>>107230817
he's lording over the peasants
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Is microcenter 9800x3d with msi x870e pro wifi combo better than their b650 one?
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>>107230953
all amd motherboards are a scam it's all junk am5 is terrible buy the cheapest shit
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Im gonna turn off all my overclocks. With ow expensive things are getting I want my PC to last as long as possible
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>>107230886
I'm not poor but OLEDs make me irrationally angry
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlhIZoY6JpE

based bored as shit retired intel boomer engineer benchmarking thermal paste in his server
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>>107230979
I never like buying tech where I have to worry about using it. It doesn't matter what it is, if I have to baby it just so it doesn't break I don't bother
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>"we saw the ram prices increase so much in only 10 days we had to redo the video"
LMAO and people are still waitfagging
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>>107230859
Anon, you're not seriously planning on actually BUYING Windows, are you?
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>>107230979
there are americans who pay 3 oled monitors worth for a month of health insurance
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>>107230963
Does it have better vrm than the b650 one?
It's only 70 bucks more expensive but I'd like to know what I'm paying extra for
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>>107231020
Thirdies eternally seething at us for having money KEK
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I should have boughted 256GB of RAM to run windows
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This isn't the RAM cartel's first rodeo. They won't overproduce like the retards in the SSD cartel did during covid, case in point during covid the produced so little DDR5 the prices were crazy inflated and then only went normal one things stabilized unlike the SSDs who had to firesale shit before price fixing the market.
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>>107229675
i heard that u dont need 6000mhz cl30 ram for x3d chips

true or no??
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>>107231087
>he thinks there's any cl30 left in stock
poor apu how can we tell him
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>>107230953
Btw MSI have good MB + CPU combos too, full price MB but then the 9800x3d is only $400.

Personally I think this MB is great for the price:
https://us-store.msi.com/Motherboards/AMD-Platform-Motherboard/MPG-B850-EDGE-TI-WIFI
Or this one which appears to be the same board but way cooler:
https://us-store.msi.com/Motherboards/AMD-Platform-Motherboard/AMD-B850/B850-MLG-EDITION
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>>107231087
The cache definitely makes ram speed less important. Go for it anyway if it's a tiny price difference vs other speeds, but don't stress about it
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>>107231087
It's honestly not usually that big of a difference shit ram vs good ram in gaymes anyways
But as I understand it, yes that is true, it's even less of an issue with an x3d
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>>107231100
>>107231105
i just read it on reddit
that x3d chips can only use 5600 mhz at max
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Can you set up a local dimming toggle on/off with keyboard shortcut?
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>>107231087
https://www.techspot.com/review/2635-ryzen-7950x3d-memory-scaling/
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>>107231127
I don't know about that it should just depend on the chip you have but in gaming x3d chips should not be as dependent on accessing ram to begin with that's the whole point of the extra glued on cpu cache
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>>107231087
You don't need it. But all ram is expensive now so what are you going to do? It's not like 6000/30 was even the premium option to begin with.

>>107231103
Seriously look at this thing. You're not a real gamer unless you are rocking one of these. Unless you have that $600 (more than double the price of the regular one) Asus Miku board.

>>107231127
I think you read wrong. Or they wrote wrong.
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>>107231147
What board is this?
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>>107231143
>~10% diff on a 13900k
>~20% diff on a 7700
Why?
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>>107231154
It's written on the box and linked in the post I replied to. MSI B850 MLG edition.
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>>107231156
because AMDUnboxed are retards
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>>107231103
Are those better than this tho
https://www.microcenter.com/product/5007222/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d,-msi-x870e-p-pro-wifi-am5,-cpu-motherboard-bundle
Or
https://www.microcenter.com/product/5007221/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d,-asus-b650e-e-tuf-gaming-wifi-am5,-cpu-motherboard-bundle

I personally like MSI pro aesthetic more than all white or gaymer shit but if the motherboard is better technically ie vrm then I'll go with it.
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>>107231156
amd architecture simply leans that way, they get more out of faster ram
thats why x3d is so great for them but intel wouldnt get similar gains for adding more L3 cache
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>tfw can't buy a new fridge because of the DRAM shortage
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>>107231156
because HUB is retarded
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>>107231147
Ugly girl. Asus' 吹雪 girl looks better.
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>>107231147
i cant help but think these waifu boards are only for americans, europe has fallen
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>9800x3d price keeps dropping
>local retailer just got a restock
Yep, we're seeing $360 prices by black friday.
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Built in 3/2025, Added 4tb m.2, upgraded ram, PSU, monitor, and mouse in 9/2025. So glad I missed the rampocalypse. Watch the current prices is like watching good stocks go up.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DYCWgn
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>>107231147
>>107231206
Red/Black is cringe
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BUY RIGHT FUCKING NOW
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>>107231200
with the way things are going right now im not sure its wise to wait for goy friday
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>>107231168
It's better than the b650 for sure, better VRM, 5g ethernet vs 2.5g, wifi 7 vs 6e. The x870 on the other hand... it's still equal or better in every way except the chipset. But maybe you don't need x870. The main reason I like them is that in addition to being fairly good boards for a reasonable price, they are also by far the cheapest boards to have a postcode display. If you don't care about that then that x870 board actually seems fairly good. Particularly if you have a use for the x870 chipset.
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>>107231206
>>107231230
Damn I love China.
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Speaking of Black Friday deals, GL to everyone in the US who is planning to buy the $390 MSI QD-OLED @ Costco tomorrow.
Online deal.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/107194313/#107195221
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OOOOOH SCANDALOUS
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how important is refresh rate once you get passed 120hz? 120 is two times as much as 60, but 180 is only half of 120. Is the difference between 180hz and 120hz that noticeable?
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It's actually nuts seeing all these stores put up CPU & Mobo bundles with NO RAM. Even that guy asking ITT that microcenter bundle would have had ram included in it 6 months ago for the same price.
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>>107231323
>180 is only half of 120
180 is only half of 120 more than 120*
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>>107231313
That coupon is real btw, I've verified it and some other anons did as well.
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I boughted a 9800x3d but now I'm second guessing myself. Should I return it and get a 9950x3d?
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>>107231343
KTC even had a $300 OLED monitor selling in China for Singles Day, OLED is really dropping in price now.
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>>107231348
It depends. Outside of gaming that 8c16t is dogshit slow real mid grade shit. So if you have some heavy non-gaming workloads I'd consider it. Of course you could wait (lol) for CES 26 and see what Lisa Su has to offer and if that 9950X3D2 really is coming. There's also stories of a higher clocked 9850X3D. But AMD has been known to say they were gonna announce something at CES and then just not do that. Even after briefing the press that they were gonna announce it, and then not annoucing it. Maybe it was a pretty bad time to buy one of those. Then again maybe not though.
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>>107231348
Sure, if you care more about productivity work. Gaming, the 9800x3d is still king. Anything higher and you're dealing with the issues of 2 sets of 8 cores.
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>>107230287
dead pixels
dead screen
Grey banding
Bad color
burnin
who knows what else
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>>107231323
Frankly, having tried 120, 144, and 165 panels, I couldn't tell the difference between them and 60hz. So I bought a very nice professional 60hz monitor instead. Works great for me.

You may differ, but the only time I could see a genuine difference was when scrolling fast on text.
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ecores was a mistake
dual ccd was a mistake
we need to go back to monolithic 700W dies
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Hey guys, my first PC build in over a decade, I kept putting it off waiting for things to "go back to normal." It's for gaming and music production. Anything bad?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yRF4yW

Also, what is this warning me about?

Note: The PCIe 16-pin 12VHPWR power connector adapter is being supplied by multiple PCIe 6+2-pin power connectors. Please ensure that the PCIe 6+2-pin power connectors are not daisy-chained and do not share the same power cable.
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>>107231410
Eh, really? I'm not a gamer, and mostly use my computer for work, but I've definitely noticed a big difference between my 75 and 144 monitors.
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>>107231410
I don't buy that the difference between 60Hz and 120Hz is night and day. More likely you just did not care not that you did not see it. It's impossible to not see it.
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>>107231410
I can understand not noticing the difference between 120 fps and 165 fps but there's no way you can't tell the difference between 60 and 120 or even 165. Did you even set the monitor to its refresh rate on windows? Going from 60 to 120 is something that you notice even when browsing the internet, there's a reason it's a selling point for phones now
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>>107231323
120 to 180 meh, 120 to 240 good difference
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>>107231411
I wonder why the ccds are 8 cores exactly
they could make a 12, 14 core ccd and improve perf from a multiccd design for games
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>>107230910
When AI bubble pops it's going to take down every major tech company and plunge the world into a new dark age. Warbands are making a comeback.
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>>107231423
>my first PC build in over a decade
>80 Noctua fans
checks out
based noctuaboomer

PRO TIP Don't install speccy and use HwiNFO on your new build
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Is the modest amd build on pcpartpicker a good option?
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>>107231434
yeah I had the refresh rates set, I genuinely couldn't tell the difference at all. Felt like a waste of money and snake oil to me.
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>>107231457
whats your budget and use case
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>>107231432
>>107231428
I couldn't tell at all, idk what to tell you guys
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>>107231460
as cheap as possible buying new for gaming.
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>>107231465
buy steam machine
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>>107231468
It'll be $1500 by the time they announce the price.
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>>107231454

Thanks for the advice. Do I need to be worried about that compatibility warning, do I need to buy another cable or something?
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Noctua delayed the Flux Pro Noctua edition to Q1 2026?
fucking hell what do those austrians do all day
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>>107231473
dram price volatility affects everyone equally
you're not saving money buying a 200$ kit separately
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>>107231468
but I like to shitpost and browse the web n do shit on pc
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>>107231323
past
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>>107231481
too busy raping their daughters in their sex dungeons, presumably
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>>107231484
Yes he is because it at least won't be a sodimm kit like in the steam box
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>>107231490
sm is a pc
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>>107229675
Am in Australia, I have an upgrade budget of around $1,600 AUD for GPU/PSU.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/z7BT8Q
Currently running a 5800x3d and 2070 super, will need a gpu and psu upgrade. Been looking at a 9070xt from a semi-local retailer called Umart that has a number of stores in most states, and either gigabyte https://www.umart.com.au/product/gigabyte-aorus-radeon-rx-9070-xt-elite-16g-graphics-card-r9070xtaorus-e-16gd-81936 or Sapphire - https://www.umart.com.au/product/sapphire-radeon-rx-9070-xt-pure-gaming-16g-oc-graphics-card-11348-02-20g-81940 as both look good, budget around $1,300 AUD for GPU and $250 - $300 for a good PSU.

PSU wise been looking at Corsair RM1000x and Be Quiet Pro 13 1000w, as I figure want to get some good headroom for future upgrades and longevity of the system. Any other suggestions, if an 850w unit could cut it may consider that, but just considering the ever increasing requirements for GPUs and a buffer for as the unit ages so that it can still output fine. Current 650w Corsair unit I've had for 6 years with no issues.

Any help/advice would be much appreciated.
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>>107231484
You can build a better spec'd PC now. OR you can wait to see what Gabe will charge for his weak, underpowered black box... sometime... next year.
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>>107231509
what actually happens is you go "am5" and spend 200$ on a mobo, >200$ on cpu and 200$ on ddr5 and 200$ on ssd
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>>107231411
i really wonder who could be ebhind this post
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>>107231508
>this is a cat box
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>>107231514
You're right. Just wait for the Steam box. Trust Gaben. Hey, it'll probably come pre-loaded with Half Life 3, too! Right, guys?
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>main pc is low power and passively cooled for general browsing and media consumption
>Pentium gold G5400 2c4t and a passively cooled EVGA GT1030
>programs and what not get more and more bloated by the day
>the 8GB of RAM i installed when I built this isnt cutting it anymore
>normal speed ram kits (2133MHz to 2400MHz) for 2x8GB are stupidly expensive
>got my hands on a kit of 2x8GB patriot viper ddr4 4400MHz CL19 RAM for $45 from Facebook marketplace
Will this work in my machine? I know it 100% won't run at the XMP profile for that kit, but it won't cause any issues if I just let it run at whatever speed, voltage, and timings it boots at right?
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>Country
Canada
>Budget
2500-3000 CAD (1780-2135 USD)
I want to upgrade from the gaming laptop I've had for the past few years but I'm extremely retarded and doing research on what to buy has been an annoying process for me. Pretty much the only thing I'd use it for is vidya, I really just want something that's going to be able to handle modern games and heavy emulation (i.e. 7th gen and potentially later). 1080-1440 is fine, I don't need 4k.
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>>107231542
You need to check with the motherboard manufacturer to see if that ram is supported. The minimum speed of that ram might be higher than the maximum speed the CPU/mobo supports.
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>>107231552
am5 b850 mobo
aliexpress tray cpu, 7800x3d would be best value
thermalright cpu cooler
2tb pcie 5 nvme like samsung 9100
corsair 850w psu
fractal meshify 3 case
some horribly overpriced 32gb ddr5 ram, x3d cpus arent as sensitive to cl timings so thats recced first and then look at cl36 6000mhz offerings. Normally 6000 cl30 would be standard.
5070 ti gpu
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>>107231443
Yield, more chance of having defects if you put more cores. 8 was probably a good compromise.
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>>107231583
couldnt they just make 2 designs and sell the larger ccds for premium gamers
they still get massive margins on cpus since their die size is so small compared to gpus
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>>107231481
ask their dutch neighbors on why the t30 140mm is still not out yet
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>>107231590
you need to understand that both blue and red build from the top to bottom: epycs/xeons first and then scale it down to goysumers
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avx10 will release on nova lake and zen7

yet another win for avx chads
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>>107231476
Yes the issue is you picked the older 2018 model of that PSU that has an old 12VHPWR/PCIe cable that doesn't just connect a 16pin 12V-2x6 on either end. It can cause issues on newer cards. Add the 2024 model of that PSU to your list.
And why not the 9900X? It's not much more expensive. The issue with AMD is these dual ccd CPUs, for gaming the 7800X3D/9800X3D are better as it's 8 cores on 1 ccd there is no cross-ccd latency penalty. The 7900X/9900X are 6 cores on 2 ccds. They are better in multicore workloads (like music production) but weaker in gaming. You may even be better with a 9950X as that'll at least have 8 cores on each ccd (without the 3dv cache obviously).

To be honest in your position most would simply buy the 9950X3D. If you're building once every 10 years (and spending like $300 on fans) I don't see much point skimping on CPU. But I'd personally get the 9950X as on Windows the 9950X3D adds more headaches because of its weird layout (cache is only one 1 ccd).
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>>107231423
That fancy model 5080 isn't doing anything for you. Just buy a prime or pny it will do the same thing.
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>>107231590
AMD is simply not a competent company and are bad at selling their own products
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>>107231454
I-Is noctua bad now? All my fans were noctua in my old build

>t. another boomer that hasn't built a pc in 10 years
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>>107231411
>>107231443
redeem 10 core ccd 10900k
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>>107231673
its not bad, its just that everyone else managed to catch up so theres no point in wasting 300 greens on one single noctua fan anymore
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>>107231500
Out of those 2 I'd go for the Sapphire Pure because I doubt the extra $100 for the Gigabyte Aorus will get you much. There are cheaper models of course, like the Sapphire Pulse.

As for PSU I'm sure a 850 will be fine unless you are considering a 6090 or something in the future. But both the PSUs you mentioned are good.

>>107231673
They are still good it's just there are other companies who are about 99% as good but less than half the price.
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>>107231539
This is Steam now, Gaben hasn't given a shit in decades. He's fucking prime ladyboy hookers on his 8th yacht and laughing at fools thinking steam gives a fuck about real gamers.
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>>107231701
So, my original post was correct. Build a PC now.
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>>107231673
Noctua are still good they just became a meme here because it took them 8 years to refresh the NH-D15 and they also spent 4 years working on making fans white which they cancelled since I guess they figured it was impossible

There's also just been a lot of good other fans and coolers for much cheaper now with Thermalright reverse engineering all of their shit and Arctic also having quality fans. They aren't the only game in town any more.
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>>107231590
GPU can easily be made with die with defects, like the flagship 5090 kek (disabled parts in red)
A big 16-core CCD with defect would be kinda awkward. 15 core? 13 core?
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>>107231652

Thank you for responding, I'll change the PSU. I grabbed the 7900X purely because I was looking at performance-per-core, the details were beyond me. I don't really do much triple A gaming, I want to play STALKER 2 which is unoptimized as fuck anyway, so I thought I'd just get the 7900X as it would be good for music production. Just trying to save money where I could but at this point it seems like the PC parts market will only unfuck itself once we're in our next great depression.

>>107231664

I picked it out because it's supposed to be super quiet. That's also why I grabbed all the Noctua fans and that PSU.
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I swear MSI is the fucking jankiest brand I ever used.
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Which 5070 TI models are worth getting? I can get a couple of the base models at MSRP, but is anything beyond that worth it? Probably going to go with the Gigabyte Windforce or Zotac since I also have their base models available at MSRP.
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>>107231776
I'd mostly avoid the ones with thin cooling fins, PNY has such I think
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>>107231776
>Gigabyte Windforce or Zotac since I also have their base models available at MSRP.
*OC models available at MSRP
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>>107231688
No one can beat them in quietness still.
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>>107229675
wondering if anyone can rec a motherboard. it will just be used for movies/streaming.
>am4
>plenty of sata ports
>pair well with a ryzen 2700 and rtx 2060
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>>107231835
>AMD
>needs a lot of IO
lol
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>RAM prices for 32GB modules reaching 300 dollar or at 300 dollar territory
Leather jacket man, Cuckerberg and all the AI bubble faggots can lick my ballsack.
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They just announced the Steam Box price. It's $990 USD.
lol
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Well that was almost a hellish nightmare. I updated my bios to https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-x870e-e-gaming-wifi/helpdesk_bios/ which just released today and after it finished I’d just get a black screen when windows was supposed to load, and all my usb devices would turn off. When I power cycled everything I finally got into windows but a stick of ram wasn’t being detected. Restarted again and all my ram was there but then a fan wasn’t being detected. Restarted again and now everything seems to be working…but that was weird as hell.
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>>107231845
are you dumb
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>>107231882
better reinstall bios
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>>107231882
I'm still rocking a 2023 BIOS on mine. Yes, I am using an Intel 14th gen and I know about it dying but I underclocked it a lot.
If it's not broken why fix it?
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>>107231909
I bought a mobo a week ago and first day I updated the bios to latest

why deal with unknown issues they already fixed
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>>107231882
Common experience among expensive motherboards, I'm afraid. It's even worse with those anime editions. These things sell so little that there's all sorts of weird incompatibilities that never get ironed out by the manufacturers.
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>>107231882
Don't update to the newest BIOS unless it's known to have important fixes.
Let other people brick their boards first.

>>107231866
Source? It's NGMI if that price is true, especially for a fucking overclocked Radeon 7600M 8GB GPU.
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>>107231909
That's what I did back when I used 9th gen
New bios' always gimp performance more and more with newer mitigations
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>>107231423
Get non-Noctua fans and you may be able to upgrade to a better CPU with the savings.
Fractal Momentum 14 is a great case airflow fan at around $25, these don't make much noise running @ 1,000 RPM.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1901564-REG/fractal_design_fd_f_mo1_1401_momentum_14_140mm_pwm.html

There's 120 mm variant of the Momentum fans, but I'd get the 140mm since they cost the same.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1901562-REG/fractal_design_fd_f_mo1_1201_momentum_12_120mm_pwm.html

Don't use these for radiator/heatsink fans, though.
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i should have upgraded my ancient router sooner, for some reason i'd thought that most of the recent wifi revisions/updates were pretty much reserved for shorter range speeds and there hadn't been appreciable progress on the worst case scenario front, and my router is multiple walls and floors away from my pc on the opposite end of the house in the basement.
well i was very wrong, my internets are now 10x+ faster :>
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>>107232007
Nice.
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I just saw my SSD is at 98%. Is it dying? Do I need to replace it?
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>>107232032
theres total write amounts specified for each ssd and that percentage tells you how much you have left to go to reach that estimate
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>>107232007
>Toronto
What ISP are you using? I was spending $175/mo with Bell. My download speed was 50Mbps. Fucking 50 Mbps.
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>>107232001
Exactly. I've had my 14700K for a while now and if it dies, then it dies. That's when I update my BIOS and get a new CPU. But for now everything is running fine so I don't bother touching it.
Plus I was lazy and didn't properly write down all the changes I made so when I update the BIOS I can't just plop in my numbers again because I don't have them. I have to go back to tweaking shit.
This is a lesson for everyone, write down whatever changes you made in your BIOS, it'll save you a lot of time.
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>>107232060
I just take screenshots of the BIOS settings because I'm too lazy to write them down.
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>>107232047
i'm across the lake in rochester, on greenlight fiber which is kinda regional. it's 500 mbps for 55 a month
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>>107232071
Wow, way better than mine. I'm paying 300 Mbps at $80.
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why shouldn't a do a cheap build with an am4 cpu paired with a 9070
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>>107232154
the cpu and ram reduce perf
amd doesnt sell new cpus for the platform
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>>107231835
My bad, don't buy that B550 MPG Gaming board, it doesn't support Ryzen 2000 CPUs.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pvYLrH/asus-tuf-b450-plus-gaming-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-plus-gaming
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wjcG3C/asrock-b450-pro4-r20-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-pro4-r20

The ASRock one is kinda barebones, but it's good enough for your CPU & video card.
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>>107232047
>>107232071
>>107232089
Jesus, lads, seeing how much freebros pay for internet is wild
5 eurobux for unlimited mobile 200Mbit+ 4G (haven't even enabled 5G as it's definitely not required)
14 eurocux for Gigabit landline fiber. As of right now, I'm seeding for about 120 MB/s
t. somewhere in the Balkans enjoyer
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>>107232306
yup, one of the downsides of living in canaduh
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>>107232306
I pay C$164/month
Now granted it's 2000/200 connection, but still.
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>>107231423
I would suggest getting an AI max 385 from framework, simply because it's a cheap choice that you know won't last forever but it should be very quiet, and last long enough for the true next gen hardware to come out (AKA, when good games come out), this PC avoids making noise by avoiding making heat (uses around 6x less watts, for 1/4th the GPU performance than the 5080).
But you should not get it if your previous GPU was a 1080 TI (the AI max 385 performance is only a little bit better on new games), and if you want to run games at 4k (plenty of old games will work on 4k above 100fps, it's just the AAA games that wont). The AI max 385 is a 1080p GPU when it comes to AAA games (like cyberpunk, it could run 1080p at 100fps, but the settings will be low).
The big problem for you might be that there are not enough nvme slots (just 2 slots, 3 if you use the 4x pcie slot with an adapter, maybe you could add 2 3000MB/s usb4 nvme adapters)
But personally I think a bigger concern than storage space is storage integrity, and the AI max has a 5Gbe network adapter (equal to a 600MB/s, I think?), that's slower, but your NAS probably will use HDD's so it's overkill unless you choose to use NVME's for the NAS.
But I don't actually know how you would use a NAS for backups, or what sort of backup software would work (does it backup the whole OS, or just the files, or what frequency does it backup, can I still use the NAS for plain files or does it only store backups?, and I also assume that NAS's have the ability to connect to the internet since I see that being marketed on some prebuilt NAS stuff).
I think the cheapest self-built NAS would be a n150 mobo from aliexpress, for $150~, with 2.5G ports (you won't use it for HDD's). And for NVME's you could use a bifurcation card (with a special bifurcation chip, there are cheap 16x bifurcation cards requires a server CPU like a xeon or epyc), and for 5G speeds (if your router works), I think 2.5G Link Aggregation could work.
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I just paid $533 for a 4070 ti (Asus TUF Gaming OC model). That's w/ tax & shipping included. Did I fuck up?
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>>107232450
5070s have been pretty cheap recently so that might've been a better choice but otherwise its just mid
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>>107232450
The 5070 is like $50 cheaper and better.
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>>107232450
Yes but you can cope by saying you have 32bit physx. for mirrors edge and borderlands 2, and it won't even be worth it because it will still dip your FPS and ruin your 0.1% lows.
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>>107232450
Yeah, unless 5070s are way more expensive than that as its better
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>>107232460
>>107232470
Techpowerup says it's better than the 5070 though
>https://tpucdn.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-5070-tuf-oc/images/performance-matchup-4070-ti.png
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the graphics programming conference schedule is out, and there ar some big surprises for the first time in many years AMD is not exposing anything , which is very weird consider redstone just released on the new cod . Nvidia booked several segments as did intel but it doesn't seem to be any mention about any Direct X12 update on the intel talks this time which worrys me https://graphicsprogrammingconference.com/ this is 2025 schedule without amd

and this is 2024 archive with amd https://graphicsprogrammingconference.com/archive/2024/

overall it seems like direct x12 is holding both back and now we'll have to wait for CES to see whats happening with features like AMD neural radiance cache or Nvidia reflex 2
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does anybody have a chart or schematic for the gigabyte B850M DS3H? i can't find where to connect the fans
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>>107232514
5070 is still better for productivity, rt, and ai. Plus it's more power efficient and you can just put a light OC on it to beat the 4070 ti in rasterization in pretty much any game. You should return it and get a 5070. Also that 4X frame gen is really nice for RT-heavy games, 2X is fine but you might as well get a 5070 for that price.
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>>107232552
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B850M-DS3H-rev-10/support#support-manual
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Looking to build a $1000 pc for gaming. Is it even possible to get 60fps at medium 1440p with this budget
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>>107232542
They'll just let Sony reveal everything about UDNA to save money
No point presenting about desktop Radeon when they have under 5% marketshare
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>>107232167
those seem like good options. how does this one look?
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DYNxFT/asus-tuf-gaming-b450m-plus-ii-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-gaming-b450m-plus-ii
the microatx should be an easy fit in the case I have. 6 satas should be more than enough.
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>>107232564
It depends. Targeting that in every title? Not a chance. Looking to only use new parts? Again, not a chance. But a reasonable balance could be struck, particularly if you can stomach some upscaling. What do you (want to) play, anon?
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>>107232556
thanks anon
apparently this board only has one sys_fan
could there be a problem plugging 5 fans daisy'ed on it?
or maybe, could i use the fan_pump as a sys_fan?
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>>107232555
Well FUCK. It was ebay and I'll have to pay return shipping. Saw the same model get snatched up instantly yesterday for $3 cheaper and felt betrayed because I was taking my time thinking it over. I'm particular about it being the ASUS TUF model and didn't want to deal with the stress of monitoring black friday deals. I shouldn't even be spending money on one right now.
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>>107232564
If you buy some parts used it's easy
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>>107232610
Personally wouldn't add 3 140mms in one header. Or 4 120mm fans.
You have 3 more fan headers. CPU_FAN should be for your CPU cooler. SYS_FAN1, FAN2_PIMP and CPU_OPT fan all work the same. Might have to make your own custom fan curve though since CPU_OPT is used for watercooling pumps and probably defaults at 100% RPM all the time.
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>>107232564
Modern games, no. Older games, probably.
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>>107232564
If you plan on buying one then start building now, Ram and storage prices are gonna get even more retarded as will do GPU's so if you can at least get some pieces before the prices get more retarded you should do so, Motherboards and CPU's are safe to buy later as its the case and PSU
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what 650w PSU do I buy?
the hwnutbuster list directly contradicts the SPL tier list
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>>107232662
Can't go wrong with Corsair.
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>>107232616
Alright I put in a cancelation request so we'll see how that goes. Doubt I'll find a better deal in the coming weeks on a TUF model but who knows. Didn't want a 12gb card anyways really.
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>>107232564
You could buy somebody's old rig off of craigslist for around that price. Alternatively keep your eye out for black friday prebuilts - There are usually some pretty deals on those if you're willing to make some concessions.
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>>107232718
*pretty good
And I know everybody will scoff at the idea of pre-built, but some of those deals are axtually pretty good if you're starting from zero.
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Crucial T710 2TB $170.99 on Amazon US for Prime members BUY BUY BUY
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>>107232610
If you must make it work with a lot of fans, get a fan hub so the power comes from a separate SATA cable.
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>>107232642
>>107232738
i see
i have 5 fans, each are 0.18am if chat gpt is to be believed (model is AG-SILVERLINE5X1-BK)
i have 3 intake on the front, 1 exhaust in the back, 1 exhaust in the top near the back
any tips how to make this work? i can't buy a hub right now
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>>107229675
Any guides for liquid cooling in 2025?
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>>107232759
Just daisy chain 3 intakes for now then, assuming they can even be daisy chained. Man I've never seen a mobo with that few standard fan headers before.
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>>107232564
I just threw this together, I didn't look deeply into any of the parts (sometimes it's not in stock or something) but it seems ok purely on specs, but it goes $200 over your budget.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fpzFzP
The 9600x might be a better option, the mobo has gen 5 nvme support. The Nvme won't utilize it much however. I personally think the intel mobo looks better, but that's my opinion, and maybe someone else could find a better spec / look / price.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mt9tjn
Also I do shill the amd AI max 385, but it's not a good value option (it's just very power efficient and quiet).
if you want a weird gimmick battery powered PC setup but with a GPU that's 1/4th the GPU power of a 5060 (around 1/8th the power of a 5070), you can use a gaming handheld as a PC, you can't use the steamdeck because it can't run windows as well as the windows handhelds, but you can install steam OS on it (Lenovo Legion Go Z1 extreme, with detachable controllers for $800).
You just need a usb 4 / TB3 hub which is around $30 I think (with DP alt mode for good display port output and battery charging, since you only have 2 ports, the other one is for the SSD, but the USB 3 speeds are 10Gbit, expensive USB 4 hubs do exist but you don't need it).
And optionally a usb 4 NVME ssd adapter, it's actually as fast as pcie 3 NVME's, around $40.
It's shit, but if you refuse to play AAA, turn off the display and plug it into a monitor, it's perfectly fine.
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>>107232759
Daisy chain 3 intakes on SYS_FAN1
Daisy chain 2 exhausts on FAN2_PUMP
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>>107232814
>>107232788
according to gpt, this mobo has something called "Smart Fan 6" which should let me control the fan2-pump like the sys-fan1 on bios
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>>107232835
You can use FanControl to control them in Windows or Linux. Much better than the BIOS since you can tune it much better.
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>>107232885
i never tinkered with fans or fan configs before, so i don't know much about the resources that are available or how they're set up really
i'm on linux (btw), will this software work regardless of the wheter its SYS_FAN1 or FAN2_PUMP?
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>>107231448
>making a comeback
they never left, anon, you just happen to live in a safe place
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>>107231882
after BIOS update on /consommer/ hardware I always reboot->full power off shut down->power on

>learned this from Dell and HP workstations, when you update BIOS the system does a cold boot, retrains, etc..
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>>107232907
Yeah. It detects all your fan headers and what's being used, what's not being used, what the RPM is and everything. There are YT guides if you're completely clueless on how to use it.
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>>107232951
i was checking their github and it says its only for windows. maybe i got the wrong one?
https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases
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>>107230878
at worst a (qd)oled is gonna lose contrast and look more like an ips in a bright enviroment, talking real bright here, but it still looks better, woled not really raised blacks, tandem even less so
only reason to buy an lcd right now is 1) if you work with text only and 4k 27" is not sharp enough for you still due to fringing (220ppi 5k oled soon) 2) you are poor

>>107231005
>I never like buying tech where I have to worry about using it.
that's your mental illness, not oled
what is worrying is having a mandatory pixel refresh timer on your monitor, that is aids however

>>107231299
>>107231313
I lost the war to mandatory pixel refresh counters, it's over

>>107231323
more response less clunk
a doubling of refresh also reduces persistence blur every time
60 = 16, 120= 8, 240=4, 360=3, 480=2, 1000=1
I watched a cs pro players opinion on 144hz now and he said it's unplayable compared to 500-600hz

>>107231348
>buying a worse cpu
just upgrade to the 10800x3d 12 core next time

>>107231402
>dead pixels
seems pretty rate
>dead screen
replacement
>Grey banding
>Bad color
buy qdoled

>>107231410
>I couldn't tell the difference between them and 60hz
wth
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will nvme ssd prices also climb up?
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Cases just went on sale here in NZ, Lancool 207 for $108 (~53 usd) or Lancool 217 for $175 (~86 usd)?
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>>107232965
No, that's right. I thought it worked on Linux, guess not. But there's a ton of other fan softwares for Linux.
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Yesterday this filter was 192€ to todays 210€
Cant wait for tomorrow
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>>107232991
Yes but it probably won't be as bad
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>>107232991
They already are but might be pre bf hikes



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