>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use casesState BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8>CPUGaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500FWorkstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67TIM: MX-6, MX-4, Duronaut>RAMDDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700) Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)>SSD (Keep firmware updated)Budget: SN7100, NM790High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)Premium: SN8100https://borecraft.com/>GPUBudget: Arc B580, 9060xt 8gb (~$270)-Used: 2080, 2080ti*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080pMidrange: 5060ti 16GB, 5070-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)4k : 5070ti, 9070xt-Native: 5090>PSUBuying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITOR1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X71440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED)4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)
>>107243099gaymers are fags and should be killed
>>107243104shut up you fucking bitch i haven't even linked htis one in the old thread or posted the second post
>News & RumorsPricing on ram or anything with memory is only going to worse, consume now/in the near futureRTX 50 Super: 2026 launch? 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.Nova Lake 2026Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"Redstone "Ray Regeneration" is in Black Ops 7>Product NoticeGigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/>PSU Reviewshttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplieshttps://www.lttlabs.com/https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-suppliesFor tier-list enjoyers:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/>Storage Reviews https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSDhttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews>Monitor Hunterhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.Pic:Previous:>>107238152
>>107243104Trvke
Do pretty much most retailers have financing for PC parts? I have a CC for B&H, will try to get one for Best Buy. Anyone seen interest-free financing for 18+ months?Also, which retailers deal with returns the best?
how do i get enough money for a PC?i've heard it's so over etci thought about becoming a court reporter, but i think i'd kill myself 10-20 years later if my life never went anywhere more interesting
>>107243195Gay porn actor.
>>107243099whats should I aim for for a vr system? I have a quest 3 right now but I'll get the frame when it drops. Was thinking a 9600x and 9070 xt.
>>107243181just use affirm
>>107243181If you have to buy something as inexpensive a luxury item as a PC on credit you are shopping way over budget brother.
Why didnt you anons tell me about Best Buy open box items? Would've been like $14 cheaper than ebay for my card
OLED is really not worth it. It just ruin it for other panels but you'll just get used to the contrast after a few days and it feels the same as before. There are also other annoying problems that makes you regret this expensive purchase.
>>107243355Only worth it for TVs.
Will a Zen 4 CPU run two dual channel RAM kits at 6000CL30? They should be identical besides capacity (2x16 and 2x32).
>>107243355Im fine with never seeing ips gray blacks ever in my life again
>>107243447IIRC if the voltage, timings, frequency, etc. are the same, it will work but it'll only use 16gb of those 32gb sticks, so it'll be like having 4x16gb sticks
I've stayed up all night fretting because I am literally incapable of deciding between these two shitty graphics cards. I hate building PCs.
>>107243697Well at least you haven't spent your money yet only to watch an even better price pop up that you can't price match
>>107243697I know, but for me it was between the RTX6000 and a 5090. I got both!
I haven't ordered parts in a while. Since iirc you can return pretty much anything for any reason to amazon for, what, 30 days after you buy stuff, if there's a price drop in that timeframe (yeah right) can you basically browbeat amazon cs into giving you a discount with the implication you'll just send your shit back?
>>107243743I work for Amazon. That only works for ship and sold by Amazon products.If you buy Corsair RAM, and it's sold by Corsair they'll just tell you to contact the seller. They might or might not do it though.
is am5 really worth the extra $300 over am4?
>>107243355I've been using one for years and so far I've not regretted it nor felt the need to go back to IPS.
>>107243277The good open box deals sell out quickly.
>>107243447Depends on the silicon lottery of your CPUs memory controller and if the boards bios can train quad/octo memory ranks where MSI does it better than other brands currently
>>107243820Well they have some decent gpu's there for good prices. I'm coping by telling myself that I know more about the one I bought because I at least saw pictures of it and chatted with the seller. It's still fucking with me though - that's like over a week's worth of good cat food I just wasted
>>107243721I wish my employer bought me a rtx6000pws too, not that I'd do much with it other than gaymen kek
How fucked is pricing going to be?I was going to buy a rig in February but now I'm cooked lmao because of AI faggotsHoly shit I hate this industry
>>107243795worth, huh? You gonna just cockblock capitalism like that?
What's the android best phone I can get now?
i will carry the salt of not bothering to upgrade to a 5700x3d when they were readily available for $130 forever
Retard from the last thread here (>>107239254)https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/qNGdspThis is an edited list based on shit people told me, if there are any more glaring issues let me know.I'll try to be a bit more specific on what I want since I was told "1080p gaming on modern games and heavy emulation" was too general, which is fair Some games I want to play that basically can't right now:>Armored Core VI>MS Flight Sim '20 / '24>EUV>Hell Lets Loose Vietnam>Stalker 2>Cyberpunk (maybe)I also want to emulate 7th gen (and possibly later) games as stably as I can. I have no interest in overclocking at all, and past the power and ethernet cables I'm not plugging anything into it that isn't a keyboard, mouse, and maybe a controller.
>>107243882You probably think I give a shit about what you want.
>>107243893>500 dollars for a 7800x3dYou can't be serious.
>>107243893>900 for a 9070xtbrother...
>>107243919>>107243933It's in CAD, not real money
>>107243795Depends, but yeah imo. At least Zen 6 & 7 certainly will be. I'm still on am4 myself though. I'm wondering if there'll be a new chipset coming because I'm planning my am5 build more for Zen 6/7 and don't wanna skimp on the mobo.
>>107243795I mean if you look at paying $350 for a 5800x3d and somehow feel that is both a good idea and okay with never getting to upgrade your CPU on that platform sure. otherwise, no it would be very retarded to go with AM4 right now
>>107243890Think you could've got a 5500x3d for a second there a few months ago too which would've been better.
>>107243871SSD pricing is expected to rise soon too so we haven't seen the worst of it yet
>take forever to finally make a list of parts>go over it all like an autistismo>yes this is exactly what i want>order it all>waiting>its hopefully getting delivered this wednesday>keep looking at other parts and now second guessing myself and thinking on improving the build and its not even here yet>oh nooooo i should have picked this case instead!!>i should have gotten this CPU!>oh no why did I pick this mobo this other one is kinda better
>>107243982Anon, your post looks like a children's book author wrote it
>>107243982Yeah as soon as I make the decision I just pretend like none of it exists anymore to avoid this.
>>107243871Mobos, CPU's and PSU'S are expected to stay cheap, RAM and SSD's and storage is expect to be even more retarded, GPU's also may get a price hike but its not clear how soon we'll see it
This is the (cheapest) case selection in my country This are about 55 US dollarsExcept for the the $90 one which is about 15 USD dollarsAre they any good? Will they work? A case is a case right? It's just a boxThey come with a 600W PSU too. A PSU is a PSU? A watt is a wattIn fact do you even really need a caseSite for the cases https://thewizzcomputers.com/product-category/computer-case/?max_price=400Thing I want to buildhttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/MThGKqThere's no tax on computer parts so it actually comes out cheaper, minus shippingBut even though there's no import tax on the case either, case if too heavy to make getting it shipped worth it
Between a used 7800 XT and a 9060XT 16gb, which should I get? I can't get a clear answer. They're both at the same price
Graphics programming conference starts today, it will last for 3 days, expect some big news tomorrow when nvidia expose + they have to do their quarter earnings. In the mean time, good news 40 series bros its seem nvidia has not forgotten you, some of the features that are gonna come next year are already deployed on the Agility SDK preview for devs and in the most recent vulkan patch https://www.phoronix.com/news/Vulkan-1.4.333-Released (4 days ago) Performance wise Ada does get some big improvements already but we have yet to see how difference are the gain between them and blackwell, 4090 bros will definetly feel like they got a legendary card if things continue
>>107244070How many years are you planning to use that graphics card, AMD does not support the card as long as nvidia (RDNA2 got into the maintenance branch recently and is barely 5 year old) .So keep that in mind because RDNA3 is already 3 years old and in 2 years it will probably get dropped when UDNA or RDNA5 gets released, the 9060 XT will at least get new features for 4 more years
>>107244051Do not use PSUs that come with cases. They are fire hazards at best.
>>107244051>Are they any good? Will they work? A case is a case right? It's just a boxTechnically yes but the shape and size of the case affect thermals because of better/worse airflow. Also the front panel should have the I/O you need - USB3, Type-C, etc. if applicable.
>>107244051Those are expensive for a case. What the fuck.Are you okay with an open air case? Maybe PC test benches would be a lot cheaper. Bonus since you don't need to buy case fans.
>>1072440912-3 years I would say, but how do they compare performance wise?
>>107243919>>107243933That's 355 USD and 640 USD respectively, btw.
Should I wait until black Friday / cyber Monday to pull the trigger, or will prices hike way too much by then with no significant deals?
>>107244361depends on the part, what deals youve found, etc. GPUs are selling at or under MSRP right now, i highly doubt they are getting any lower. 9800x3d is assumed to sell out, there is a bundle deal with MSI for a mobo + CPU with the best savings ive seen. RAM and storage are only going up, buy now. things like monitors, keyboards, mice, headsets all will be most likely the most discounted for nigfriday
>>107244361>>107244383keep in mind there's a rumoured AMD price hike coming for GPUs because of the DRAM cartel hiking prices againhttps://www.techpowerup.com/342990/amd-reportedly-planning-gpu-price-increase-as-memory-costs-spike
>>107244391but amd isn't using gddr7
With an aircooler on my CPU, is 3 front intake fans and 1 exhaust the best airflow setup? My new build Ive got coming has a case that can allow 3 fans on the top and 3 fans on the bottom if I want. But I feel like those extra fans would just be a waste with little to no improvement on temps.After watching youtube shit about case fans and airflow, it seems like I might benefit from adding a second exhaust at the top in the back, and maybe another intake at the top in the very front or right above the CPU cooler? Basically recreate the flow in this picture.
>>107244470I just have 2 front fans and a back fan. Computer works just fine. Don't overthink it, Anon.
>>107244470just use it with the 3 intakes and 1 exhaustthe extra air will get pushed out of the top holes
>>107243893Thats the list part as i gave you last thread with the new mobo tooThat should play everything at 1080 until the heat death of the universe but as i mentioned its a very much 1440p set up so look onto getting a new screen when you are ableYou can pick a 9800x3d if you want that extra lift on the cpu, ppl in these threads mention it being a 15% or so faster than the 7800x3d which often leads to big discussions about it being worth Also i haven't checked which and how many fans come with the case i see you have an extra fan picked up, you might want to check this post by noctua in which they specifically use a fractal design north (so a very similar case) and they mention this setup worked reall well picrelRemember to search for the phantom spirit directly on amazon, pcpp doesn't pick themI would give you a rikishi but im watching sumo and needed the pic for the noctua shit
I'm going to pick up a gpu for black friday, the 9060 xt 16gb, I'm looking for the best possible radiator because the pcb is the same in all of them, right now the steel legend seems to be the best but it's not discounted, if it doesn't get a decent discount I might get the xfx 2 fans card, it also has a beefy heatsink, what do u guys think?
>>107244441
>>107244553>Thats the list part as i gave you last thread with the new mobo tooYep, that's why I said it was an "edited list". Your reply was definitely helpful.>as i mentioned its a very much 1440p set up so look onto getting a new screen when you are ableYeah I'm only going to look at 1440 whenever I'm feeling like picking up a new monitor (which might not be for a while after I get all this sorted), that's the reason I always put 1440 as a "maybe" in all my posts>You can pick a 9800x3d if you want that extra lift on the cpu, ppl in these threads mention it being a 15% or so faster than the 7800x3d which often leads to big discussions about it being worth It's not that much more cost-wise so I still might, it depends on what I'm feeling over the next couple days and when I bite the bullet on ordering everything (probably this weekend).>you might want to check this post by noctuaGot a link to it?
i only have to update my bios for the x670e in order for it to recognize my 9800x3d correct? am i able to update it without a processor installed like the b850+ boards?
>>107244263like that anon has the slightest idea, he just wanted an opportunity to try to spit some venom.Any and all gaming benchmark i have seen have the 7800 several paces ahead of the 9060xt, so is probably a stronger card against the 9060 being newer which also has its benefits>>107244470it most likely will help but i dont imagine it making a world shattering difference
>>107244585https://www.noctua.at/en/expertise/blog/best-fan-setup-fractal-design-northI mention it specifically cause you are buying a very similar caseAnd to be fair all modern single chamber are similar enough, its currently how i have my fans setup myself.
retard question, but I see most of you using 2 sticks of RAM. I remember reading that it's better to use multiple identical sticks due to memory interleaving or something, how come nobody is doing 4x8gb instead of 2x16gb?
>>107244641Because it costs more and can't be upgraded without buying entirely new sticks instead of just buying 2 more sticks.
why is the 5060 ti 16gb recommended in the OP as midrange but not the 9060 xt 16gb?
>>1072446412 sticks are easier to OC4 sticks is impossible to OC and are more for workstations where more RAM is better than more speed.
>>107244657oh. That's reasonable
The RAM I bought has now had its price increase by another $100. This is the third time in the last month, so now the price has officially doubled.I bought after the first leg up, and motherfuckers were telling me I "bought the top" and that "it won't go further from here."
>>107244672DRAM is ran by a cartel, blame neoliberalism, it'll stay this bad for at least 6 more months
>>107243099Budget Used section is missing the 12GB 3060. It's got enough VRAM to be comfortable and it's "performant enough" to get away with playing 2025 games at reduced settings and with DLSS. Can be found for 150-200 euro if you look hard enough.
>>107244592the mobo manual has specific instructions but 99% you just plug in a psu cable and usb stick with the latest bios
I think nicotroon would be at home on moronix forums.
>>107243982you have to get excited enough for it to pull the trigger. watch someone making a similar build, imagine it next to you
>>107243953>5800x3dI think this is the only last gen CPU where I feel it is OK to wait with and hope the memory crisis stabilizes over the next 2 years.
>>107244734the 5800x3d will hang strong for gaming for at least 6 more years unless you're buying 90 series cardswith it you're gpu bottlenecked at 1440p or higher with every mainstream gpu and it'll remain like that for a long time
If i want to use DLSS to play 1440p with my shitty computer>turn on DLSS on the game's settings>performance/quality/balanced whatever>choose 1440pThats it right?Basically what i mean is, am i supposed to pick my target resolution OR do i pick the resolution i usually play with and the DLSS will upscale it as far as it can or whatSorry im retarded
>>107243099>system in OPs pic>barely holds a candle to a good APU these days
>>107244825its impossible to fuck upyou just go launch a game and stare at the options giveneg. "which dlss you want, perf, done"
>>107244831yeah i activate it but then pick the "target" resolution?
>>107244762There are certainly games that are already bottlenecked by it but you're probably right in general. I'd still never advise anybody to build on am4 at this point though... well unless maybe if we're talking about brazilians or some other country w/ similar hardware/economic issues.
>>107244837the target res is the res of your monitor and typically a game launches at that res
>>107244837The target is the resolution that it's upscaling to, i.e. your monitor's native resolution
>>107244830a Titan X is still stronger than the GPU of the best consumer desktop iGPU, the 8700G, which is equivalent to a GT 1630
>>107244843>>107244851ok
>>107244853do mobile APUs like the Ryzen AI MAX series not count? the iGPU in those is between the 3060 and 3060Ti/4060
>>107244441Gddr6 is made by the same few cartel companies with limited fab capacity
anyone here undervolted their 9070XT?
>>107244641Ddr5 is able to interleave within a single channel because they reorganized the bank groups with ddr5 so there's minimal gains doing 4 sticks on ddr5
>>107244890It's undervolted exactly the same like any other card
>>107244840I built a 5700x3d, 64gb hynix cjr system early in the year in here, the prices were alright, now the ram prices are absurd but the rest of the system is still reasonably priced, it does 180 fps esports games and 60 fps aaa with an old gpu just fine, I'm getting a new gpu now, honestly wouldn't upgrade the system until zen 7.
>>107244853What are you on about?? Try something like Strix Halo.
>want to get a thermal grizzly kryosheet instead of thermal paste>thermal grizzly size chart says a 38mmX38mm sheet fits a 1700 socket cpu>look up CPU dimensions>wiki says LGA 1700 processor is 37.5mm × 45mmWho do I believe? I dont have one to actually measure yet.
>>107244965just get ptm7950 instead and save all the trouble
>>107244830>tfw my 9800X3D + 4090 shitbox will be a potato too in 10 years
>>1072449651700 and 1851 have the same dimensions so buy the larger one. Though to be frank I don't see much point in dropping $20 on a thermal pad that isn't PCM.
>some are preferring the truegloss 32" woled due to the new coating>some are still preferring qdoled due to better colors and so on in dark, but it's not as good of a coating (you can also do the old peel)>before with the matte woleds vs qd, literally no techtubers took the woleds>now alot are swapping over just due to the simple coating swap>but it's still exactly the same panel nothing changed>add the new tandem meme into the mix and even then it's not as colorful as qd and some even still prefer qd (not sure if tb500 models or older)we are yet again at a crossroads where you can't trust sloptubers, they hated on the same panel but now prefer it all due to a coating swap, idk. you can increase clarity on qd even more doing the old peelaroo on the coating too, but anywaywe are stuck in fomo landit's over
buying flagship hardware is a disease because there will always be something better getting released in 6 months to 1 yearjust get the best cost benefit screen and use it for 5+ years instead of wasting lots of money on small details
>>107243277I have told you about that multiple times in these threads, specifically qdoled samsung tvs>>107243355mandatory pixel refresh behavior makes them unusable, without that they are fine>>107243882u25 ultra or some gamer china phone with the latest snap chipset>>107244977early days of pc your shit was obsolete in a year, a decade is pretty solid
>>107245018>early days of pc your shit was obsolete in a year, a decade is pretty solidEarly days of PC, PC was pretty shit in general compared to the alternatives (Macintosh, Amiga, etc).
>>107245018my 5600x cost 330€ at launch and it degraded in value pretty fastI got a 7800x3d now but I never suspected that cpu would last so few years
you're lost in the maze of high fps and 4k, those things are only a market ploy, they don't make the experience better1440p 60 fps is all you'll ever need for triple a games, anything above that is just a waste of electricitythe sooner you realize that the faster you complete the maze
>>107245050That's a lot of cope, poornig
>>107245043>my 5600x cost 330€ at launch and it degraded in value pretty fastthat was the time when amd bumped up the price of 6cores by 100plus you boughted amd (non x3d) and found outit was never goodyou didnt buy the right cpubut yeah it seems now even 2-3 years you need a cpu upgrade to combat shitty engines idk>>107245011realistically the max upgrade would be every 2 years with gpu/cpu releasesthat's if you wanna spend money non stopbut seeing as you can recoup a 90 series gpu for 80-150% of the cost u paid for it every second year it seems pretty worthnot like you need to upgrade if you buy high end eitherand why are you trying to save all your money anyway? just get more money>>107245050>they don't make the experience betternothing compares to playing your pixelated games during childhood it's over
>>107245116>nothing compares to playing your pixelated games during childhoodtrue, nothing will ever be as good as playing lineage 2 or warcraft 3 custom games in early 00s
>>10724505060 FPS feels like slideshow for me, 90 is the sweetspot.
>>10724372124064 shader 5090ti when
>>107245123I actually made an obscure mod for Green TD, called Green TD Snow Day by mythos66. Not many people ever downloaded it and good luck finding it, but it had "Hero Towers", basically towers that only attacked the Hero waves but did crazy damage.
>>107245252So you made an even worse variant of anti-air towers?There is a place in hell reserved for people like you
>>107245265Also made the slow tower deal real damage if you you researched all 6 upgrades to it
Was thinking of picking up a 4000D frame. If I run the default 3x120 fans in the front, with a 360mm AIO on the top, would it be a bad idea to add 2 reverse blade fans on the bottom for more air on the GPU?If I do run this, should I flip the PSU to have its fan facing down, so its not fighting those 2 fans?I like the flux, 207 and other designs with fans down there, but prefer this case for other reasons.
>>107243893>Some games I want to play that basically can't right now:>>Armored Core VIDude you need a new computer ASAP that game is not hard to run at all
>>1072440744090 bros have felt that way since 2022
>lived to see Microcenters CPU/MOBO/RAM deals become CPU/MOBO deals at the same price et tu, Microcenter?
>>107244074SER has always sounded interesting from day 1Shame that it relies on software to be programmed for it and isn't just a hardware feature like cpu prefetching is
>>107244641>how come nobody is doing 4x8gb instead of 2x16gb?I just remember buildzoid videos of him ranting about how shit AMD's memory controllers are and they are impossible to make 4x anything work unless its dogshit slow like at 3600MHz and even then it's iffy. But I think Wendell recently got 256GB working at 4x64GB maybe it got better or maybe boards themselves did or most likely Wendell is a wizard and only he could get it to work. A lot more stable RAM is also coming out now than before. But there was a guy ITT before who for the life of him could not get 192GB (4x48GB) to work on AM5 no matter what.
>>107245476the main reason to be excited about zen 6 is the memory controller although I'd just wait for zen 7 at this point and get the last am5 upgrade
Can someone convince me it's a reasonable idea and give me validation, for wanting to buy a 5070 ti over a 9070 xt for 30% more in price? Both at MSRP.
Hiyall, I need PCbuilding advice.I need a PC that can hit stable 300FPS on CS2 using low video settings (stretched). My budget can be around 800-1000€ for used and second hand parts. mATX factor is preferred although can work with ATX. I live in Spain.Also recommendations for very low response time monitors are much appreciated.
>>107245512nvidia has features like using ai to make sdr video to hdr
>>107245512Mine is I will never buy AMD Graphics cards.
>>107245530amd is almost there with AI, stuff that runs on vulkan api is the same already
>>107244700sweet, that should take around ~5 or so minutes right? just gotta wait two weeks until my motherboard + processor come in then
>Wanted to buy a new motherboard to replace the AM4 one I've had since 2020>I'd have to buy AM5 for the new sockets>RAM prices have doubled and almost tripled in some casesPeople keep saying the AI bubble is gonna pop. I need it to pop NOW. I don't want to blow my entire Christmas bonus on just a new motherboard combo and case.
>>107245526It will never be stable bro. CS2 has massive frame drops with even a 9800X3D and 5090. https://old.reddit.com/r/cs2/comments/1lw5rdn/megathread_cs2_fps_drop_bug_highend_pc_users/it's fucking bugged to shit nobody can stop it we've seen it happen in tourneys too
>>107245572Remember when Valve was considered the guardian angel of PC gaming? What happened?
>>107245571>I don't want to blow my entire Christmas bonus on just a new motherboard combo and case.doesn't matter what you wantyou will have to to enter the gameCPU/MOBO/RAM starts at $700 for it to not be complete shit throw in another $100 for the case and you're at $800 already
>>107245512You can't read GPU-Z? 5070ti is slower GPU. Lower fill rate and lower transistors.
>>107245512You're much less likely or never to have the chance to run into driver issues with Nvidia cards.Had a friend this year whose AMD card shat out on him upon reboot for no reason. No video display or anything. New drivers he downloaded just bugged out somehow, he had to uninstall it and rollback the drivers.
AMD loves fucking up
>>107243099Is 150 euros a good price for a new 5700x?also what's a good cooler for it?
>>107245512
>>107245607>$800 for everything that I want>2020 PC was $1k for absolutely everything I needed as my first PC build
>>107245655not surprised considering amd's indian team literally writes their drivers
post ur fan curve
>>107245655Nvidia has all the driver issues now keep up with 2025.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NTXoUsdSAnA&pp=0gcJCR4Bo7VqN5tD
>>107245695Why are you replying to yourself? Nvidia has the driver problems now still unresolved see the YouTube link above.
>>1072455125070ti is straight up slower than 9070xt >>107245691
>>107245709you will never be aryan
>>107245512I had the same dilemma and bought a 5070 ti, been using AMD with barely any problems for a long time but with how they recently planned to drop support for cards they're still selling really turned me off.
>>107245713And 5070ti has worse drivers on Windows 11 and Linux
Alright fellas.I need help.I ordered a refurb motherboard on ebay. What the fuck is this?It seems to be some sort of oil or grease. It comes up a little bit with Iso, but not a whole lot. I've been scrubbing it for a bit, and it feels like it's pretty stuck on there.Any ideas?
>>107245709
>>107245717I sold my 5070ti because it literally doesn't work on Linux or Windows last month or today. You a jit?
>>107245730thats either an lcd or a cheap plastic film covering some rgb elements. either one are easily scratched or if you're lucky that's just some misleading reflection and the surface is fine
>>107245734gay iphone user that buys overpriced broken nvidia shit.
>>107245685thermalright peerless assassin 120 or 140
>>107245572I'm gaming on an i5-6500 at 3.2Ghz paired with a Titan GTX 12Gb hooked up to an Eizo CRT. It struggles to keep 100 FPS stable, I'm not too picky about frame drops, but I want to improve my experience, it's hard for me to keep it up against players with better PCs. (also I'm BOT, but that's something different xD)
>>107245512I traded my 5070 for a 9070 because the melting connector on nvidia sucks
>>107245748Wrong again bitch. Wanna make another assumption?
>>107245765also Nvidia drivers are less stable than AMD now
>>107245730>. I've been scrubbing it for a bit, and it feels like it's pretty stuck on there.im pretty sure its over for that panel then. the only way you're going to make it look new is by buying a spare cover and swapping the damaged one out
>>107245730it's paint bro
>>107245769>Samsung Iphone
>>107245769>gooksungso you're literally financing the DRAM cartel that fucks us over
>>107245512Isn't 5070ti slower now? New AMD drivers win on Windows and Linux today. I guess 5070ti still wins at pathtracing but how many of those are you playing today? Almost guaranteed to be none.
>>1072455129070xt windows drivers have gotten less stable while nvidia's have gotten a lot better so its worth the cost
>>107245512Found a 9070 XT Nitro+ (one of the top models) on sale for about $130 less than what I could sell my 5070 Ti for on the used marked where I live. I wanted to see for myself so I bought it.Here are some things I found at 4k so far:Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart max settings (with RT): More fps than the 5070 Ti, 10% maybeElden Ring: Less fps, but still good (about 95 fps in the expansion). Couldn’t find any FSR option in game, so I’m going to try AFMF and/or Lossless scaling later to reach 120 fpsCyberpunk 2077: 10% less fps, Pathtracing no longer felt good to play with. Ultra RT with balanced FSR4 is still fantastic though. I actually prefer it now because the image looks sharper.Oblivion Remastered: Exact same fps, but had some kind of problem with the FSR or frame gen that made grass look shimmery. Largely fixed by only using fsr4 at balanced.Had to inject FSR4 into Death Stranding with Optiscaler to make it look good, but it was easy to doDLSS4 in general looks a tiny bit better than FSR4, but it has come a very long way and 90% of the time I don’t notice the differenceThe 9070 XT uses about 70-100W more when gaming. Can do a good deal of undervolting, but it’s not stable enough in all games to reach 5070 Ti level of power draw. So depending of electricity costs, take this into consideration. The Nitro+ has 30W higher TDP than the Pulse model, but still.In my case, I will keep it the 9070 XT, because this particular model runs very cool and quiet and I got it for a good price. I have to make a few concessions and tweaks when gaming vs the 5070 Ti, but framerates are high enough that I don’t think much about it once I’m in a gaming session. Had it been a hotter and noisier model though, I would have kept my 5070 Ti, many games have better DLSS support and the games I play in general have better fps on the Nvidia card. But AMD is much better on Linux and feels more stable in general even on Windows. Hope this helps.
5070ti windows & linux drivers have gotten less stable while amd's have gotten a lot better.>>107245827i own both cards
>>107245861 (me)I'm also trans btw
>>107245849>Hope this helps.It did, very kind of you. Thank you to all the other anons. As a follow up, I digitally paint, but I'm pretty ignorant about how impactful the GPU is on that, is that an area that would justify the nvidia?
>>107245811Yeah there's zero reason to buy 5070ti now unless you need RIFECUDA for video playback. it lacks vram for pathtracing, real AI, or work.
>>107245904>>107245919
>>107245914its all on your cpu for 90% of workflow like video&audio editing. gpu only plays a role for final render cut which is the 10% last step.
>>107245307anyone?
>>107245914Modern GPU accelerates 3D. they dont accelerate 2D anymore unless its legacy operation (font rendering).
anyone here uses the 9060 xt 16gb? which model?
>>107245914>digitally paintpretty sure you can do all that on a cheap ipad u dont need $1000 cad gpu
>>107246067powercolor hellhound
>>107245307i posted about that same situation a thread or two ago for a friend's case and i was told all sort of names for wanting to put all the fanswe will still use all the fans, rear back and aio as exhaust evertyhing else as intakeunsure about your question regarding the psu, its interestingCorsair has a few example setups for that case on their page but they do not mention psu
>>107245970Had to add more.
>>107246102how is it? do you like it? I'm about to get the xfx swift 2 fans model (hoping it'll have samsung dram). does it play well (60 fps) at 3440x1440p?
>>107246130>play well (60 fps) at 3440x1440pthe answer, as always, is "yes if you use upscaling and framegen FUCK NO if you want native"
>>107245571RAM will go up another 100 before the Christmas so your bonus might not be enough. Waiting a single week risks adding anywhere between 20$ to 50$ to your final bill.
>>107246130its super quiet dont hear fans no coil whine. I get 100+ fps at 1080p. double if I use AFMF or LSFG. I only have cheap chinese 2560x1080 200hz panel.
>>107246187have you ever thought about adding small heatsinks to the backplate on top of the ram modules? it's kinda weird to me how they don't get any cooling, I think I'll try doing that when I get mine
>>107243099Hey so I bought a used PC but it came with the manufactured waste known as an air cooler. What are all your AIO recommendations so I can actually cool my CPU?
>>107246218i have a 120mm fan sitting right on top of the gpu thats blowing on the ram, board, and exposed gpu die back.
>>107246267you don't need an AIO but if you do, Liquid Freezer, but most likely you don't need one
>>107246106ty anon ill take a closer look at their site when cloudflare stops sucking cock
>>107246267lian li galaalso other anon is right you dont need an AIO unless maybe its a high end intel
>>107246267>the manufactured waste known as an air cooleranon.. AIOs are not meant to be user serviceable, they are literally manufactured waste meant to be thrown out when the pump dies..
>>107243099pov: you just boughted radeon (you can't afford NVIDIA)
>>107246438me in 2018 when I got an RX 570 instead of a 1060 because it was half the price for "similar" peformance (nobody warned me how shitty AMD drivers are)
amd drivers are better than fecesvidia unironically but (((they))) love to pretend
>>107246438I could have buyed NVIDIA but I got AMD, I just want to see the world burn
>>107246438>>107246476Nvidia drivers don't even work. They struggle to do basic desktop compositor tasks.
>>107246527skull issue
>RAM prices go to shit>they announce more prices going to shit>like 80% of the internet is down right nowThere is clearly a major happening on the way I would advise you build that PC ASAP and you should probably hoard media and other goods too and get a generator
Is there any reason not to get a mobo without wifi if I intend to use only ethernet for my internet connection?
>>107246676>pc build done>just in time for it to get fried by a XXX class solar flare
>>107246676yeah, who could've guessed giving the keys to the country to donny orange and the techbros would lead to a massive ai+cripto scam followed by economical apocalypse, but at least we have some argentinian pesos on the treasury
>>107244996Why did you make Kurapika wear glasses?
>>107246676RAM prices still haven't budged here, all cheap af (based Poland)feels kind of dumb to upgrade when my DDR4 system still handles every AAA title just fine though
>>107246676I finished mine last year and now feeling quite happy that I splurged a bit and got 2x24gb sticks. I thought it was overkill, but I was just future proofing in hindsight.
>>107246549https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/game-ready-drivers/13/440865/mpo-multiplane-overlay-is-causing-graphical-corrup/no fixjust "disable hw accel" is bs
>>107246785Doesn't happen on my machine.>Ryzen 5 9600>RTX 5070>Windows 11 25H2>Nvidia drivers idk I'm at work can't check, haven't updated since last month because they never change anything.
Friendly reminder I'm very happy with my m27p6 purchase!
>>107246818happens on 4090 machine
is this a good motherboard
just bought a 5070ti, how fucked am i?
ima sell my 5070ti
>>107244099>>107244117Thanks. I guess I can still get another PSU and swap it out
>>107246676But black Friday isn't for another week and a half...
>>107247240Keep waiting bro there will surely be RAM on sale during black Friday.
>>107247240there's nothing left to buy in the black friday because the "black november" discounts sell everything prior
>>107247283I fomod and bought the ram last weekAnd ssdBut what about everything else
>>107247287>""Black"" Friday>Still need to pay for itemsWe need to reclaim the real meaning of black friday
>>107246885my M27T6 will arrive soon
How is the XFX Swift 9070xt?
>>107247240>he's still waitinglol you are insane
>>107247146look at reviews online. download the manual for the mb and check if it has what you need. nobody can really tell you. Yes, it's good.
5070 is such a shitty card it's getting more black friday discounts than any other gpu.
>>107248028name three videogames the 5070 cannot handle at reasonable settings, framerates and resolution
>5060 ti 16gb same price as 9060 xt 16gbman, that's a tough decision, amd is apparently better on linux I might be forced to use that
>>107248077path traced alan wake 2 4k
>having to do monitor maintenance to prevent it from being permanently damaged do consooomers really?
>>107243099>ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual FanIs this really the best value for money at the moment? I normally keep my air cooler for 10+ years. I've got an old zalman cooler with twin gentle typhoons from 2011. I'm thinking about splashing for a NH-U12A black and it should last 10+ years easy.
>>107248298>keep icons off the desktopoled is just mental illness
I want to put my 7800XT on sale and was wondering what's a fair price these days? I'm based in Europe so I was thinking 400euros? it's a pulse models so one of the cheapest
>>107248359desu i gave up on desktop icons forever ago and i'm not even on an oled. it's faster to just use an organized start bar/text search and you don't have to minimize what you're doing to do itcome to think of it i still have wallpaper engine installed but basically never even see my wallpaper
>>107248261that's quite unreasonable thoughbeit?
>>107248445well what if you bought 5070 ti and ran it with perf mode dlss
>>107243099Just bought a RTX 4080 for £599...Did I do okay Anons? I'm selling my RTX 3070 for £200~
>>107248261the 5070 is a really good card for 1440p, it's completely unreasonable to use it for 4k with path tracing
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>>107247338you did good, there could be some nice deals for the other parts on BF.
>>107248492I'd have to spend like 300-400 euro more for the Ti and 200-300 more for a 4K monitor instead of 1440p. A lot of money for disproportionately little improvement.I'm happy with my 5070. The most demanding game I play regularly is Oblivion Remastered and I get 120++ FPS at 1440p High settings DLSS Quality HW Lumen High 2xFG.
This shit was £220 yesterday anyone still waiting is insane
>>107248568so the reasonable scenario for 4k oled monitor owners is to not buy 5070
>>107245691Funny how these are always a benchmark and never gameplay.
>>107248588yeah I was going to buy some RAM but I didn't play Sekiro and hesitated, I'm gonna wait a couple months/years/decades before bothering.
>>107248589>if you have more money buy a better GPUno shit genius, what the hell are we even arguing about at this point?my point is the 5070 is fine if 600 euro is the most you can spend on a graphics card and don't want to buy used
>>107245757cheap 14th gen build would be your best option since you're gonna have to keep the RAM or overpay out the ass for DDR5i can't guarantee something like a 14600K would hold 300 FPS stable but it would be 3x faster than your current i5
>>1072485895070 is not for 4k
what's the cheapest am5 entry
when is the general being renamed to /shillvidiag/ btw?
>>107248623>decades5 years in the worst case though by that time you would be more concerned about the beans.
Mugen 6 is fine given its single tower form factor & ITX board compatibility, but it's not meant to handle a 9950X @ full load.It handles Intel CPUs better than Ryzen.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY-8PZKcMYgIf the Mugen 6 vs. U12A cost savings don't allow for a component upgrade, get the U12A.
>>107248675There's a totally unusual number of AMD posts in this thread for a 5% market share, so I imagine (you) must be the shill.
>>1072486667500F + Asrock B650 (nothing ever happens and it's half the price of non-Asrock options) + second hand RAM
>>107248588I kinda wish I got 64gb even though I'm pretty sure I might not need it? I honestly don't know I Used a PC with 1 stick of 16 for a while and I hit upon the limits of that with my many thousands of tabs eventually
>>107248675The same old Retardeon shitposters are blaming NVIDIA for Microsoft Windows' MPO issue.>>107246785>>107247050Strange how Radeon card owners' Windows troubleshooting advice frequently mentions disabling HAGS and MPO.
>>107248724I'm not going to Google but aren't recent problems with Assrock boards only related to X3D CPUs in the 9000 series lineup?
>>107248588>anyone still waiting is insanewhy would you buy at a peak?
>>107248499Anons... I need to know, did I fuck up? I'm looking at the Benchmarks again, I swear the 4080 was faster than the RX 9070XT
>>107248298>>107248359Poor people should stay in their lane.>Buy OLED>Use existing monitor for text/ui heavy display needs.>Use the new OLED display for HDR gaming/media.It's that simple.
>>107248422I'm the opposite, I never used it much but recently just started throwing a bunch of random shit on there. I was always shocked when I looked at my friends' PCs and their desktops were a total mess of shortcuts, folders and files but now I'm tending that way as I get older.
>>107248824it's a good card, but it's last gen
>>107248825I always sell or throw other monitors away, it's a type of anti-hoarding OCD
>>1072488244080 has about 30% better performance than the 9070XT
>>107248832Just I wanted to keep PhysX, move up to 16GB of VRAM and felt it was my only option, so seeing it for £30 more than an RX 9070 XT it felt like a fair trade as I also like CUDA.>>107248904T...Thanks Anon
>>107248824You just haven't done your research properly.There's always been a set of games that Radeon cards ran better than GeForce & vice versa.
>>107248298I guess this guy would also tell you not to use a web browser on your OLED monitor, or tell you to un-maximize the window and reposition it every 30 minutes?holy kek
>>107248900That's your problem.Keeping a 1080/4K IPS for coding/etc + VA/OLED for multimedia has been the advice given in /pcbg/.
>>107249005Lol ur poor. I have 2 IPS monitor for work, fps games and general browsing. 77" OLED TV for AAA slops and movies.
>>107249004And the poorfags cope on, left behind once again.https://www.techpowerup.com/343006/global-oled-monitor-shipments-surge-65-yoy-in-3q25-redefining-market-landscape
so what's with the push for OLED monitors over IPS?I've been on top tier IPS monitors for years and I can't imagine any substantial improvement
>>107249085I got left behind in the Plasma era and it was the best decision of my life. This is the same thing.
>>107249085wow they sold 165 oleds this year instead of 100 last year? that's crazy
>>107249005I have a work laptop on a dock I use with a 24'' 1080p 60Hz IPS, with its own KB+M and headsetbon one side of my desk; on the other side of my desk I have a 27'' 1440p mini LED where my desktop gaymen PC is with its own KB+M and headset.They're totally separate and I just slide my chair a bit when I get bored of work.
>>107248588For comparison, recently ~325 euros could buy you 2x64GB @5600. Glad I'm not in the market for RAM rn.
>>107249125>27'' 1440p VA* mini LED
>>107249071Wow, this guy has an OLED TV in 2025.I wasn't describing my personal setup.This place used to have a monitor schizo who gave good advice.His point was to use two different displays, using one of the monitors to mitigate the downside of the other.
>>107249139>>107249125So you keep one of your 2 monitors off all the time while doing appropriate task with the other one? I cant live like that.
>>107249123Thanks for proving your idiocy. They've written the quarterly shipment number in the article.>LCDs shipped more!Because there's more poorfags.ASUS ROG PG27AQNR high-end IPS monitor with GSync Pulsar's nowhere to be seen; it was supposed to launch last year.ASUS probably knows they've lost that market to OLEDs.
>oligarchs bought up GPUs and made them unaffordable to the average person>oligarchs bought up RAM and made it unaffordable to the average person>oligarchs bought up SSDs and made them unaffordable to the average personwhat's next?
>>107249191they rape ur kids
>>107249179No one cares about your OCD.
>>107248806This isn't the peak, DRAM shortage is continuing well into 2027. People who need an upgrade now can't waitfag that long.
>>107249204he said next
>>107247448good
Why does Radeon pull so much power?
>>107245235240hz OLED is pretty damn smooth, wonder how smooth 500+hz isPeople unironically buy the 4k 240/480 1080p monitors and end up permanently in the 1080p modeLike that anon here who bought a 4k dual mode lcd and end up at the 300hz mode High hz might actually be better than 4kNot sure>>107248298If you don't burn in your OLED on purpose you are not a man>>107249095You have no functional equivalent There is no 1440p 540hz ipsBefore that the 4k 240hz competitor was only neo g8500hz competition is a TN panelThere is a grand total of a newly released 27" 240hz ips dual mode, and it's bad and slow in pixels , no competitionIf you only care about low refresh and picture quality then maybe you can compare but anything else there is no functional equivalent >>107249191>Being an average personFound your problem>>107249139>This place used to have a monitor schizo who gave good advice.>His point was to use two different displays, using one of the monitors to mitigate the downside of the other.You can just use an oled and not bother buying multiple monitors and you get all the benefits Say the 4k 240 dual modeYou get picture quality and high hz Or even buy a 1440p giga 500hz, good enough for eSports and AAA slop If you buy lcd you get a compromise somewhere >>107249136380 euroshmekels for 128gb 6400c42 before it blows up to twice the price is still available ..I hope
>>107249191SSD prices don't seem bad yet, but I heard HDDs went up by a lot.
>>107249279do you need the concept of diminishing returns explained to you?there is no functional difference between a 300hz monitor and a 30,000hz monitor
I have a problem with my machine I just wanted /g/'s opinion:>MSI x670E gaming edge>7700>Corsair CMK32GX5M2B6000Z30>XFX Qick 6700xtThis build has been running fine for 1 year now, pretty much on 24/7.Lately been shutting it off at night...when I go to start it up in the morning the machine turns on but no display output. I didn't think to check the lights. Push the reset switch and it works. This happened a few times.Left it running 24/7 again and came back to the CPU fan running at full speed and no display.Turned on the integrated graphics and pulled the GPU, been running fine so far.GPU failure? This GPU I used in my old machine it has a LOT of hours on it under full load.Other thing I wonder about is the expo RAM settings but I had no issues for a whole year with the way I have it set up.Thanks for any help
>>107249285They're creepingSN850X 2TB the most expensive it's been in over a year, relatively big jump too
>>107243099>4K>24">240Hz>HDR>VRRwhen?>>107248588>TFW I got 128GB in February for 200€ at the last possible momentFeels good man
>>107249191learn to ogliarchmaxx
>>107248394anyone could answer? how much is it worth? thanks
>>107249342do I have to buy an SSD literally today even though I'm planning to upgrade in a year?fuck this shit
>>107249356It's DRAM and NAND, SSDs should be treated like RAM it's only that the prices are still relatively low compared to RAM that it's not getting as much coverage, but prices are certainly on the rise. Waiting will not help this.
Guys, wouldn't a 2nd or even 3rd generation Steam Machine be worth considering? I'm waiting for my PC to die, but if it has 32gb of RAM they could be cooking.
>>107249381So HDDs should be fine right?
>>107249389they still haven't announced a price for a reason :^)
>>107249389Valve can't count to 3.Besides inside is just standard laptop sodimm ram you can upgrade it yourself
>>107249389well no ones releasing any consumer hardware until AI bubble pops
>>107249396HAHA NO The HDD I bought this year already went up $100 from when I bought it and that was a Toshiba drive
>>107249324240hz is 4ms persistence blurDoubling to 480 it's now 2msAnd the input lag difference It's literal direct upgrades So you are wrong Even slow boomers like hub Tim acknowledges the difference How worth is it? IdkWorth the faster games you playBut comparing lcd to oled you also are not including the near 0ms pixel response and zero smear which is also a thingMaybe at above 1000hz for sample and hold monitors we have hit the diminishing returns else you will just get a clear benefit every time you double the hzNah>>107249345>>4K>>24">>240Hz>>HDR>>VRR>whenBuy an ayysus pg/xg27ucdm and use the emulated 24" modeClose enough, or 27" for full res
>>107249417what do they want all that shit for? the apocalypse can't come soon enough
>>107249430they don't want it for anything in particularthey don't have any grand plan or goalthey just have too much money sitting around and they don't know what to do with itthat's literally it
>>107249407Pretty much, DIY PC building market will be fucked for a while.https://www.techpowerup.com/343017/amd-nvidia-reportedly-consider-gpu-cuts-asus-and-others-slow-motherboard-plans-amid-memory-shortage
There's nothing coming for 2026, I really doubt they'll even launch Zen6/Nova Lake at this rate. I just heard Apple is delaying their iphone launches to 2027
I told myself the next time I want to upgrade, I would just do it and not sit on the same PC for a decade againbut I guess I will sit on the same PC for a decade again after all
>>107249486basically any computer tech thats slow to progress will have a scenario where people who bought last gen device at sane prices will see insane price increase for an iterative next gen devicethis forces device manufacturers to make cuts, so the upgrade isnt really an upgrade People want next gen device to have more faster vram, well thats super expensive so they make device with slow vram at 8gb + small bump in perf per watt
>>107249421I would buy 27" monitors if I had the physical space for two of them on my desk. I unfortunately don't.
>>107249356you should have bought a month or so ago when AIchimps announced that they have bought out every NAND wafer that will be made in 2026. It is a fucking miracle that NVME prices haven't exploded yet.
>>107249461It's in line with that other leaker saying 5060TI 16GB is gonna get stock limited quick as Nvidia won't bother making more for now
>>107249574so what do they do with all this hardware they've hoarded when the AI bubble pops?throw it in the garbage and accept the losses?
Alright fellas.CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor (Purchased For £275.00) CPU Cooler: ID-COOLING FROZN A620 GDL 78 CFM CPU Cooler (Purchased For £49.99) Motherboard: Asus ROG CROSSHAIR X870E HERO ATX AM5 Motherboard (Purchased For £325.00) Memory: Corsair Vengeance 96 GB (2 x 48 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory (Purchased For £260.00) Storage: Western Digital WD_BLACK SN8100 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (Purchased For £225.46) Video Card: MSI EXPERT OC GeForce RTX 5080 16 GB Video Card (Purchased For £910.00) Case: Antec FLUX PRO ATX Full Tower Case (Purchased For £149.99) Power Supply: Corsair RM850x SHIFT 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular Side Interface ATX Power Supply (Purchased For £147.99) Total: £2343.43All parts purchased. May arrive as soon as tomorrow.Will update with build photos.
>>107249461>Commercial Times reports that memory alone could add nearly NT$3,000 (about US $96) to basic office PCs next year.IT ADDED $150 TO MINE
>>107249601I wouldn't be surprised if NVIDIA stops making 5070 Tis next year.
>>107249620I saw the A620/A720 are not so good on 9800X3Ds compared to Peerless Assassin/Phantom Spirit
>>107249613The same thing they did with old office computers, instead of reselling they scraped the parts for rare earths and called it some gay "microshit recycling incentive" or whatever.
>>107249005>codingHow many people in this thread have a career that isn't in tech? I'm curious.
>>107249621yeah the $96 in 1 year is delusional, it's $200 extra on just RAM and today, not in a yearin 1 year it will easily be $500+ extra on your PC
I actually have a lot of ddr4 from my old retarded office pc scavenging. ebay sellers will probably start ripping the ram out of optiplex prebuits and sell them separately soonDDR5 is fucking me though
>>107243277Unironically are open box items relatively safe to buy? Ive had bad experience buying used items hence the caution
I value opinions. I got a 4k monitor earlier this year and continued on with my 2070 Super. I don't really play unoptimized AAA trash, but there's a few Japanese games that have released that I'd like to get better performance out of.I was initially in the waitfag camp for a potential 5070 TI and 5080 Super, but the rumors of the delays were pretty disappointing. I'm just pessimistic in the sense that if I end up buying a card the initial Q1 rumor for the upgrades will come true. Is that a laughable notion or is upgrading the play? Variety of opinions welcome.
>>107249659coding isn't really a career these daysunless you're fine with using advanced skills for a min wage
RDNA3 card owners are being left out with another new Radeon feature set.I warned people in this thread that this could happen.https://x.com/JackMHuynh/status/1990794384833720504
the entire ram situation is a scam, it's not like people suddendly are all starving for ram and the machines stopped making them, it's pure fabricated scarcity by the DRAM cartel, on top of a retarded AI bubble that no one can explain how it'll ever pay itself on top of another long running scam, the crypto currenciesI honestly hope for a mega crash like 1929 and americans jumping from buildings everywhere
the fact that during every single year since 2016, there has been some major shortage in a certain computer part (most often ram or gpu) makes me think manufacturers are either really stupid or something is up
>>107249725Yeah there's a million different ram sticks from 10,000 manufacturers you've never heard of and all of the sudden it's unavailable? It's market manipulation that conveniently coincides with what is already the biggest retail period of the year.
>>107249670Q126 is too late to wait nothing is launching from anyone and they are going to hike every GPU price and stop production of high VRAM cardsThis is why AMD announced first and are shilling their 8GB 9070 right now
>>107243099thinking about getting the Lenovo Legion Go 2, to run non-steam deck compatible steam games, anyone have one?
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>>107249811I find people pouring liquids on hardware to OC them 100% uninteresting in every aspect
>>107249330If you can't see the system bootup & BIOS screen when the display is connected to the 6700 XT, there's something wrong with the display connection to the card or the card itself.Try using different DP/HDMI ports in the video card, and install the card in a different x16 slot if possible.
>>107249740>or something is upAIniggers are up and they have unlimited cash thanks to direct pipeline into american taxes & USD itself. Vanguard and Blackrock are the main investors of the AI shitshow. Nvidia, Open AI, Microsoft, AMD... its all just a facade Blackrock & Vanguard are the actual hands inside the puppets. And because Blackrock & Vanugard have shares in every DRAM cartel member this shit works smooth like butter.
Is there anyone out there with a LGA 1700 motherboard that's making use of laptop memory? I have a 14700 and 32gb of DDR5 I'm trying to make use of while spending the least. In the US if shipping china special stuff has got that bad.
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>>107249351You need to check your local reseller marketplace's recently sold prices if that data is available.If the 9070 & 9070 XT are sold near MSRP in your country, 400 EUR sounds fair.
>>107249659I'm a "data engineer" using pyspark + sql, I'm not exactly coding long complicated scripts
>>107249389>2nd or even 3rd generation Steam MachineThese won't be out for quite a long time. Valve waited nearly three years to use one of the cheapest RDNA3 mobile GPUs.
>>107249874Yeah people are jumping at the opportunity to spend 400€ on an fsr 3 gpu with no nvidia features
R8: https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/list/fxnwNzSome guy on another forum made me that list like 7 months ago but I've been busy. I already have an RTX 4070 Super TI I bought used back then. I already have some changes in mind, namely swapping the case for a Meshify 3, but I'd like to hear some feedback.I'm in Finland and my budget is somewhere between 1000-1500€. I'm probably gonna order some parts from Germany and try to look for deals. Will RAM prices go down going into spring?Also, can this run new-ish games in 4k or should I go for a 1440p monitor? Monitor recs?
>>107249762> ram sticks from 10,000 manufacturersThere's only a few companies making the DRAM chips in those sticks. Which has led to issues in the past.
>>107249636We'll see. Worst case, I'll swap over. Of all the parts to be lacking, I'd rather it be the cooler.
>>107249670Super won't be released in Q1; AIBs supposedly don't even know the final specs for these cards yet.4080 Super launched on Jan 31, 2024 and the launch cards were being assembled in November 2023.The cards will be extremely expensive if they give all those VRAM upgrades (unlikely given the current market).
>>107249897theres cheapo 7800x3d on aliexpress and they ship from eu warehouseId get b850 mobo, but good deals depend on local sales. I rec buying it from finnish store so if something breaks you get customer service easily990 pro ssd should be fine
>>107243871I bought a 2tb ssd a week ago among other things. The ssd rose $20 as of now, and i dont even want to start on RAM.Do with that info what you will.
>>107249926>fix the market>go to jail>get promotedgotta love the chaebols
Will the memory shortage affect monitors in any way? Surely there's a small amount in there and there will always be excuses made to increase prices in lockstep with other components.
>>107249989>>go to jail>>get promotedBecause those executives take one for the team/owner, and they're basically set for life afterwards.
>>107250028oleds will get cheaper over timeyou cant turn a qd oled factory to make AI server components
>>107250028Motherboards, smart TVs, monitors, and anything that uses NOR Flash (BIOS/settings storage chip) would be affected by the supply shortages.The cost of these chips shouldn't affect the overall manufacturing cost too much.But manufacturers will raise product prices because they can't sell as many devices anymore.
>>107250103oh shut up, you can make a 64mb bios chip at home, there are hundreds of thousands of little chinese manufacturers that can produce it
>>107249897>Will RAM prices go down going into springspring? yeah, spring 2028 maybe
>>107249874Okay thanks, they're around msrp. Got some offers under 400eur but I think I'll stick by that price for now
>>107250143That's why ASUS and laptop manufacturers are rumored to be pausing motherboard development/mass production.Those chips are used everywhere, and NVIDIA's single server rack is using $600 worth of them.
Why should I buy nvme gen5?
>>107250185no lol, they are stopping to produce because they know people won't buy new pcs with ram at that price and they already have a stock of mobos
>>107250203No reason if you're not hitting gen 4 limits already.
>>107250203because you still can
>>107250246I only do gaymen, they don't benefit
>>107250203For fitgirl repacks
>>107250262if I'm not willing to pay for a game I'm not willing to waste time on it
Should I hoard HDDs now? I still have plenty left but Im afraid we'll have another jungle gooks floods situation.
>>107249966Why that SSD over the 770? Just price? What should I be looking for, specs wise?I think I chose that one myself, it being a mature model that definitely wouldn't fuck up and destroy my data out of the blue. Although I guess the Samsung thing got fixed with firmware already?
>>107250388nah, the bubble is going to burst sooner than you think and prices will come back to normal, the market is already puking and bitcoin is already making people jump off of bridges
>>107250388if you are going to hoard storage go for NVME unless you can somehow buy HDDs for prehike prices.
>>107250412nta but I disagree. USA is willing to pay for AItrash so they won't go down easily, consumers will be stuck in the turdmarket for at least two years and that is a very optimistic outlook.
>>107244977Such a powerful system. Destined to become trash.
>>107244977My 6700K 1080ti 32GB RAM system is set to be sent to a niece to play The Sims.Which I think is a nice retirement package for it.
>>107250505Take out the RAM, are you crazy????
>>107250505lucky niece
>it's Iook for windows to use 20GB of RAM because "unused RAM is wasted RAM"
>>107250570Sims with mods eats RAM.
>>107243104first post, divine trvke postgaymers btfodfags btfoddoom scrollers btfod too
>>107250155I'd take a 350~380 EUR offer.
>>107244996there is no such woled at 4k 240hz 27" with DP 2.1it's only qd-oled if you don't want a gimped monitor (in the dark)
>>107245405What do you think I'm trying to do here
>>107243204ty
>>107245484If the 5800X3D story is any indication, getting the last upgrade is the way to go.
>>107246523BOUGHT YOU FUCKING ESL NIGGER
>>107251514sorry. I meant I just boughted
>>107247240Waitgod.
>>107248825How about I just buy a much better OLED in 5 years?
>>107249740The entire history of civilization is about obtaining data and crunching that data in order to better obtain more data and crunch more data.There will never be enough compute. If it's not crypto, it will be AI, if it's not AI, it will be quantum, and so on and so on.
