>News & Rumors
Pricing on ram or anything with memory is only going to worse, consume now/in the near future
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch? 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"
Redstone "Ray Regeneration" is in Black Ops 7

>Product Notice

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

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>>107249824
>crypto
>covid
>AI slop
>tariffs
AHHHHHHHHHHHH
I JUST WANT TO BUILD A HIGH END PC ONCE IN MY LIFE
PLEASE
WHY
CAN WE GO BACK TO 2015?

thinking about getting the Lenovo Legion Go 2, to run non-steam deck compatible steam games, anyone have one?

Just remember SSD price are also creeping up and are the highest they've been in 2 years right now

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give it to me straight or gay idc. how bad is oled burn in really? trying to decide between the gigabyte M27UP and the Asus XG32UCWMG. Coming from a asus asus vq248qe. want a dual mode for comp fps games. I would have no problem with paying the premium for the asus but I generally use my stuff for a long time and also do some static content work.

>>107249952
some people get lcd for static stuff + 2nd oled for entertainment, maybe a tv

>>107249952
Just buy LCD or wait until 32" 4K Tandem WOLEDs are out.

>>107249952
Second screen for work
Oled burn in is real, it will happen to you eventually.

Do cases with tempered glass really crack and explode randomly often or is it just online forums?

>>107250099
>randomly
no, but you will hit it and it will explode and you will have to shake out glass bits from your heatsinks.

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I had a good friend who was a serious dog trainer. He had a 2 year old lab that was coming into his own as a competition-tier bird dog thanks to a very strict regimen in all aspects of his life. When he was riding in the truck he wasn't allowed to have AC in the southern heat to keep him alert in the field. One day he was riding home with the ol boy, and my buddy took great pity on his panting, dog-tired pal and decided to treat him to a little cool air. From that moment onward whether it was a cool fall day or sweltering summer burner that dog would get in the car with you and immediately start clawing at the vents like a mad man, as if he was starving and there were delicious bits of rotting muskrat waiting to be dug up if only he could scratch through the dash.

I am content in my ignorance of how good a $600 monitor with a short lifespan could look while gaming. My 1440p 180hz IPS is a shockingly good upgrade from my old 60hz 900p and I love it.

>>107249952
It's not bad at all, it's poorfag cope. Just get an OLED and don't worry about it.

>>107250099
Just don't hit the glass or drop the panel

>>107250130
told ya it was a massive upgrade
but can you be confident you'll never get the 4K OLED itch? Many have tried and failed

>>107250147
>Just get an OLED and don't worry about it
don't forget to also get a 30 minute kitchen timer as a reminder to move your browser window around to avoid burn-in

>>107250099
I've banged shit into the one's I've had several times and not once have any of the things broke. Like any other tempered glass I'd imagine it's only real fragile if you get it from one of the edges.
>>107250147
rich fag cope, just don't buy oled if the thought of burn in scares you

>>107250219
Yeah I don't do any of that, it's been a bit over 2 years of the same static background and taskbar always showing. I leave it on all the time and use it for 4-12 hours per day.

>>107249952
get a good VA miniled and never worry about burn-in. Good ones are also like 50% of the cost of an OLED while being 90% the same visually, I don't think the average person can tell the difference between a good VA miniled and OLED panel unless they're some hyper monitor autist

If OLED burn in was real you would see more of it outside of the rtings torture tests.

you can't buy a new gpu because they cost $2000 because drumpf and his billionaire friends need to make hundreds of billions on his cripto scam
you can't buy ram because drumpf and jensen need to keep getting richer by pretending AI is not a bubble and will eventually pay itself so every fab has to turn to HBM to keep the lie going on
and soon you won't be able to buy a cpu because drumpf will takeover intel (already at 10%) and switch the entire production to bitcoin miners and AI slop machines (unironically lip bu tan is already doing this)
are you happy now?

>>107250252
>Buy a new monitor every year or two
>"lol, if burn in was real you would see in the real world"

>>107250287
Get a job

>>107250289
Why does nobody get it? Everytime people cry about it, it's always pictures from rtings, never a real user.

>>107250190
Someone else in here was still on a 15 year old 900p recently? Great peasant minds think alike.

my galaxy s9 phone i'm still using has burn-in. granted we're many generations removed from that type of panel but after hearing people say every new gen of oled has finally solved burn-in for a decade now i'd rather avoid it

>>107250252
It's real, 10 years for TVs & 5 years for laptop/monitors is TCL CSOT's expected OLED refresh cycle.
Obviously depends on the panel & usage patterns.

>Burn in isn't a concern
Of course not to the OLED richfag who changes monitor every year to the latest OLED anyway, the new one is even brighter!

Should I hoard HDDs now? I still have plenty left but Im afraid we'll have another jungle gooks floods situation.

>>107250453
Prices have already doubled or more for some HDDs.

>>107250453
>>107250416

>>107250453
A flood would at least give us something real to blame

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>>107250287
Don't act like AMD isn't busy developing & selling pickaxes either.
"It's the right gamble" (for Lisa, AMD, and their shareholders).

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NVIDIA's also the company that prevents Radeon from selling $900 9070 XTs.

>>107250474
I dont game alot and already have 2TB nvme and 1TB regular SSD. I need cheap storage for pirated movies and shows thats it.

My fellow gamers...what do? Also don't care much for moder gaming.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Acer-Nitro-60-Gaming-Desktop-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-5060-Graphics-with-614-AI-16GB-RAM-1TB-SSD-N60-640-UR21-Black/16965909083

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Stormcraft-Gaming-Desktop-PC-SIRIUS-Intel-Core-i5-14400F-16GB-DDR5-GeForce-RTX-5060-Windows-11-Home/16611661469

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Skytech-Shadow-Gaming-PC-Desktop-AMD-Ryzen-7-5700-AMD-Radeon-RX-7600-1TB-SSD-16GB-DDR4-SDRAM-AIO-Liquid-Cooling-Windows-11/15338103335

>>107250584
Definitely not the overpriced $1K PC with an RX 7600, get the $870 Stormcraft.

>>107250584
just wait for the steam deck

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what are the chances in 10 years new builds will be using arm platforms

>>107250550
than just go to pcpicker, select storage and sort for price per gigabyte, selecting 5400 rpm gives you the cheapest dumpster drives. around 4tb should be enough for your use case

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>>107250615
Steam Machine's pricing might be inflated due to the memory shortages.
RTX 5060 is objectively better than any RX 7600 variant.

Valve made the Steam Machine because they want impressionable normies to buy newer (higher revenue source) games on Steam.
They're in this for themselves. It's not for the sub-3% troonix users without the Steam OS ecosystem.
It's about increasing their bottom line.

>>107250584
I can't get past walmarts bot check but I'm going to guess the "sirius."
Defenitly not the am4+7600 though, that's straight up going to be trash.
Also you should really be building something, $1000 is enough to get something genuinely competent.

All AMDfags secretly wish they had bought/could afford a green card. It's an inherent truth of the world.

I like building PCs because it reminds me of assembling a robot on Armored Core.

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>>107250704
Saar..

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>The average amd appreciator

call me retarded but how do I tell if my PSU is compatible with a 5090?

>>107250704
amdrones are too retarded to even realize why people buy nvidia cards,we have been here back when it was between the RX580 vs 1080 TI, 2080ti vs RDNA1. 3090 vs 6950 xt, 4090 vs 7900XTX, at least it's seem like FSR4 will finally be on RDNA3 after CES so they may be able to get some money back before they get put in maintenance mode like RDNA 2 in less than 2 years

>>107250808
it doesn't melt or explode

>>107250808
It'll say 600w for the housefire cable

>>107250808
it only needs to be ~1000 watts. the card ships with an adapter that will work until it catches fire

>>107250626
I have 64gb and I'm currently sitting at 6gb used with many chrome tabs
What am I doing right/wrong compared to people who always have all of their memory being used?

>>107250865
>many
Over 1000? Because zoomers never close their tabs or make bookmarks you know

>>107250808
No PSUs are compatible with the 5090 because they all connect with a cable that combusts.

>>107250881
>Over 1000
No like 10 chrome tabs + msi bloatware + riot launcher + notepad

>>107250900
>10
10 is not many
gotta pump those numbers up!
>t.146 tabs atm

Is it worth it to spend time to create your own build or is it better to copy some prebuild? Personally I know nothing about computer hardware and I see that it's a complicated topic with no clear resources.
The prebuilds I'm eyeballing are any from ztt (https://zttbuilds.com/collections/gaming-pc-prebuilts). What I'm going to get depends on my budget.

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>>107249824
>TIM: MX-6, MX-4, Duronaut
Aren't pads better now?

>>107250606
>>107250615
>>107250686
Thank you gents. I'm leaning towards the storm craft so far.

>>107250959
literally the first line on the op
there are people here that will try to make a list for you according to your budget and needs, well most of the time

How to cable management please sirs

>>107251001
pads are better for direct dire because they're pump out resistant.
for cpu heat spreader it dont matter.

>>107251018
Just jam it somewhere and put the pc under the desk so you don't have to look at it.

>>107251036
That's what I already did but it's a nightmare when I need to change something like right now

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>>107251001
goodbye 16GB 9060 XT
goodbye 16GB 5060TI

>>107250959
>with no clear resources
It is easily the most well sourced topic on planet earth
https://pcpartpicker.com/ & https://www.techpowerup.com will cover all your questions if you know how to use a search bar, for any additional questions you can consult abundant and case specific links in the op. Also some anons here are willing to build you a machine if you give them your budget and a use case for your device.
As for prebuilts, their goal is to make money, they will cut corners, sometimes you can find a really good deal but these situations will depend on your local pricing, part availability and luck. If you have some doubts about them you can always post a prebuilt build and ask if it is a good deal and get decent replies.

32GB VRAM on a 5090
that shit is going to cost $5090 next year

>>107251006
I value your time, that's why I didn't ask for spoonfeeding me.
But I do want to know about the cost savings of copying a prebuilt pc vs spending time on it yourself to somehow minimax it maybe.

Well my Aliexpress 7800x3d arrived today, it took one week to deliver from eu warehouse. Its in unsealed tray plastic and top side with lettering has some tiny smudge, leading me to believe it might have been used and resold. Checked serial number on AMD site and its legit.

Will have to wait two weeks for rest of my components to arrive and then I can actually test wheter it works or not. Will update.

>>107251100
Mine literally comes in tomorrow. All this talk about pricing getting even worse with no end in sight and finally getting some availability made me finally just buy one. Now the new worry is just the impending warranty and insurance claims when it burns my house down.

>>107251006
>>107251106
Most prebuilts until you get to used car money cut corners you won't have to building, they're not worth copying.

>>107251106
Find the ZTT PC you can afford, go to PCPartPicker, and plug in similar components in the builder tool.

>>107251106
we're very much approaching the point where DIY will not be cheaper than current prebuilts as those guys already bough ram/ssd etc. stock in already but when their stock runs out you can expect prebuilts to spike in price too.

Whatever you do DIY or prebuilt you should buy asap

>>107251106
NTA but the cost savings all depend on how much your time is worth

>>107251075
Sir 400$ GPUs are not budget sir.

>whatever you do buy asap
Fuck me why did my stove and fridge have to die now?
My PC is 12 years old and I wanted to do a real upgrade
Now I'm going to get fucked HARD

>>107251100
you could quadruple the price on 5090 and the sales would only drop by 10%
the people buying these GPUs don't care how much they cost

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AM4 and a 5060 for $1000

I could not be more disgusted

Does your GPU coil whine /g/?

>>107251188
only when I'm scrolling 4chan, it's literally just this website and I don't know why

>>107250627
0%

>>107251201
How is that possible? Which browser? Also install adblock and turn off hardware acceleration.

>>107251167
things you need to buy today or they will double tomorrow
RAM - because is going to cost about the same as 5070ti right before the Christmas bells
NVME SSD - because NAND won't go to consumers for the next X years (at least one)
HDD - because fuck you
GPU - because they will use current market shitshow to rise prices back and are actually quite affordable right now.

>>107251255
I don't have the money right now though :(

>>107251273
buy now pay later

>>107251172
well, to a point. the $8000 rtx pro 6000 blackwell with 96gb of vram is about that price and readily in stock

>>107251255
I only regret buying GPU 2 months ago because it seems like it's the only component that has many decent BF deals in my country.

>>107251255
and if you have enough ram make a ramdrive and use it for various shit so you don't use your ssd, like compiling and kernels and such. who knows when prices come down

>>107251255
There's no way RAM is going to be that bad?
It's going to be that bad isn't it?
Oh fuck I am so fucking fucked

>>107251283
Don't tempt me please I really need to buy a new fridge and oven or I will starve

>>107251273
Just buy toys on a loan like everyone else is doing.

>>107251273
buy now pay later exists and it is a great solution for poorfags. otherwise just accept that you are not upgrading before the AI bubble pops or start praying to your Gaben shrine so Gabebox is priced under 700.

>>107251302
>and oven or I will starve
Nonsense, just get a grill and a toaster oven

>>107251302
Its winter you dont need a fridge just put food outside your house. Buy the 5090 and 14900k and use your PC as an oven.

>>107251302
>oven
get one of them countertop air fryers. love mine, never use the oven for anything anymore

>>107251167
you will pay $500 extra on your next PC build and you will be grateful for the late stage capitalism tax, peasant

>>107251310
anon is poor and only poor people have to pay their loans

>>107251302
get 9950X3D & 5090 not only will you get a high quality heat plate you will also save on heating

>>107251349
>500$
lol
LMAO

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Modded an 80mm into an old obsolete IO port
Flap even still closes

>>107251426
endearingly jank

>>107251426
What is it cooling?

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>upgraded my table from my Ikea linmon 100x60 that I bought used for like 10 €bux to a 180x74 foldable outdoor table for 36€
We're all gonna make it

>>107251426
""""modded""""

I am so happy that daddy Musk and daddy Altman will build their 2000th data center with my RAM sticks
I didn't want them anyway
I hope they buy more of them, I want them to be happy

>>107249900
also thinking about pairing a Thinkpad, so I can a device for gaming and a device for work/browsing.

>>107251462
I hope they both get luigi'd, and jensen too

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>>107251440
Oversized passive heat sinks and 4x 80mms

>>107251459
I used power tools so its a mod

>>107251457
Too much soul in a single photo.

>>107251468
>2 laptops
Lol

>>107251493
you used power tools? it looks like you went at the metal with pliers lmao.

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>>107251457
gem alert!

>>107251106
Prebuilts usually double dip, they use bottom tier components on all the hidden stuff (psu, ssd, mobo etc) and then also have a decent markup. They will often try to lure people in by listing the cpu and gpu as very high models for the price and then pair those with the shittiest shit ever in order to meet those prices
Check one of those prebuilts you linked and find the one that falls in your budget and try to find the pcpp parts for it and start there to compare prices
Then its the added value of being able to pick better or more appropriated parts against having the pc built and delivered.
You shouldnt value our time, we are here of our volition and the anons that dont want to, will simply ignore the post

>>107251541
Only used tin snips for the clean cuts

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Another gem alert!
Buy now you disgusting poorfags

>>107251426
I hate that I don't hate this

Also, buy one of those cheap holesaw sets for installing doorknobs. they come in super handy.

>>107251570
PNY has bad fan and coil whine

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>>107251301
lube up, strap yourself in and whatever happens, don't look at prices in 2026

>>107251533
I can't do work on the Legion Go 2.
vice versa I don't think a T14 could handle games like the Legion.
I could just purchase a Lenovo gaming laptop but I don't want to wear it out

>>107251607
>Work no longer gives free USB drives
It's ogre

>>107251457
i'm using an old door slab that was sitting in my garage from when i bought my house. best desk i've ever had

>>107251589
HOLY BASED I GET TO COMPETE WITH ASUS FOR THE SAME FUCKING RAM KIT FUCK YES

>>107251607
>expected to peak in 2027
can't wait to see $1000 RAM sticks lmao

walmart with 100$ 32gb of 6000/36 from the purest chinknisium if anybody interested
Next ones are patriot viper at twice the price

If you been in this hobby for a while you already have a bag of ram ready to sell like weed

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>>107251075
>AMD quits the mid range/high range this generation
>stop pruducing budget gpus
so what are they gonna sell, its not like they have a 5080 mid range equivalent

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>>107251641
nice link retard

https://www.walmart.com/ip/PNY-Epic-X-32GB-2-x-16GB-DDR5-6000-PC5-48000-Desktop-Memory-Model-MD32GK2D5600036XRGB/15376609151

>>107251648
>>so what are they gonna sell,
AI accelerators to datacenters and APUs to Sony

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>>107251462
close

>>107251647
demand for used ram isn't gonna increase much, data centers aren't buying used ram

>>107251650
>out of stock

>>107251641
>>107251650
>Out of stock
lol

>>107251671
>>107251674
oh fuck im sorry, i was doing a list for another anon and saw them and linked them without checking since im not in the usa i wasnt that much concerned
not gonna delete the posts so people can revel in my stupidity
sorry anons

Thank you all for the (You)s
I may actually just go for this >>107251385 on my credit card and eat the interest payments over a couple months instead of getting fucked when the prices jump

>>107251701
That's how I got my 5090. Put it on Amazon credit card for no interest apr.

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>>107251557
>>107251106
Okay i went and did it, i picked the Shadow Strike v3 Picrel
I added a better mobo using MSI deal, rest of the parts the same, memory it only says 6000 speed so im assuming they are using CL36 at best, if they were using CL 30 they would say so.
Rest of the list is the same
It came 540$ cheaper, even w/o msi's deal it would be 450$ cheaper
Again anon i beg of you, just tell me your budget and what ̷f̷u̷t̷a̷ ̷s̷i̷m̷u̷l̷a̷t̷o̷r̷ games you want to play and shit
Let me help

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QMsPjn

>>107251701
Most stores do 0% interest anyway

>>107251520
>to test said table I unplugged laptop from 55" tv
>using 15.6" 120hz screen
damn, what a relief I feel
maybe large screens up close was not the truth after all
I'm taking the smallest screen possible pill

>>107251493
Why are you using an xbox hueg passive cooler if you're just going to slap multiple fans near it anyway?

if only normies didn't need to type "how do I wipe my ass?" into chatGPT every minute of every day, you could build your PC for half the price
think about it

>>107251710
>360mm AIO for a 9700X
for what purpose

>>107251710
550$ markup on a 2200 rig
fucking hell

>>107251729
it's a good pc sir

>>107251728
Ask the scammer running the page, i tried to stick to the same pieces on pcpp
I hope anon sees it and reconsiders

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>>107251629
>from when i bought my house.
subtle flex..
as a europoor I am glad I can just rent an apartment for now

>>107251707
>>107251712
I'm in Canada I'm not sure they offer those deals to us but I will check
Was gonna go for a 5080 instead anyway since it's half the price or something?
It's been a loooong time since I've built a PC (12+ years)

>>107251635
not just Asus every consumer hardware manufacturer is now in the rat race against you, NVME prices haven't ballooned yet but its coming to every hardware shop next spring.
>>107251639
you won't need to wait till 2027 for that

I've been waiting all day to get a discount on the gpu I want, I let go of deals on models I don't want because I wanna get the best radiator possible for my 9060 xt but it doesn't get any black friday deals, I'm getting angry

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>>107251751
>NVME prices haven't ballooned yet
they have to me

>>107251746
5070TI if you want a sensible option
5080 if you want a slightly more powerful 5070TI but sensibly more expensive (most anons dont think the bump is worth the price)
5090 if you want the biggest tiddies

>>107251635
well if you play games this means the new console are gonna release on 2029/2030 (shortage is predicted to last until 2028) which means we'll be stuck with current gen hardware until then, you better pray your current shit doesnt die until then though

imagine unironically recommending the 5080 to anyone in good faith

>>107251701
based firehazardmaxer burn it all down

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>>107251766
>(shortage is predicted to last until 2028)
My 5600x...

>>107251758
It's even worse when you look back a year or two

>>107251761
Hmm yeah thanks for the reality check
I want lots of RAM too so maybe should shift the price on that and some more storage instead
I'll be back with a build and see what you all think

Thanks everyone for being so helpful, can hardly believe this thread exists on this hellish website lol

>>107251768
They are solid cards at msrp, at that range that extra 15% feels like nothing when you consider you'll be using that component for 5-7 years in the current climate as you feel more future proof.

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>>107251768
I'd rather buy a 7900XTX than a 5080. at least you get 24gb of vram.

>>107251792
$1200 for 16gb ram

>>107251792
it's just nicotroon malding again

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>>107251794
>amd schizo is back with his cherrypicked benchmarks
we have been over this

>>107251768
he calls himself the good guy fighting against the red menace, calling t-word anything he doesnt like

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>>107251808
5080 oc slower than 7900xtx reference

>>107251799
>>107251768
So what would you suggest? 5070ti or 5090 if I'm feeling spendy?

>>107251799
various models have hit $999 in the US, on the past month at that price is only 15% more expensive than the good models of the 5070 ti which usually retail for $816-$850.

>>107251819
the only midranges I'd get are 9070 xt or the 5070 ti, if you want to throw money away get a 5090

>>107251816
>Fakebenchmarks
yep its nicotroon

>>107251794
cope

>>107251758
This is nowhere near where they should be, panic levels are not high enough.
AIchimps have bought out every NAND wafer made in 2026.
EVERY SINGLE ONE
Like for starters the prices should at least triple and then we can talk about it. For now this is baby shit, not even a prelude light teasing at best, I am thinking they will rugpull at some moment and just shove a cactus up our ass, no slow climb like with RAM, just 200 today 800 tomorrow kinda deal.

>>107251783
you have (had?) a job now, why haven't you already upgraded?

>>107251842
>>107251851
>5080 running at 2745mhz oc
>7900xtx running at 2500mhz stock
>5080 still loses
kek

>>107251819
dont let the 5070ticopers trick you into buying the 5070 TI if you can afford a 5080 or 5090.

>>107251744
oh was just trying to justify why i had a random door laying around. my poverty desk is a literal random piece of wood over a broken filing cabinet and a screw-in adjustable desk leg

>>107251836
Anything between midrange and throwing away money?

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>>107251863
cope harder

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thoughts?

>>107251710
Wow thanks. I actually won't be playing any modern games. I'll use it for work, hobbies and academy, for programs like AutoCAD, SolidWorks (3D modelling in general), maybe EagleCAD and Eplan. My 10-year-old could keep up, but for ex. it doesn't support the required AVX3 processor instruction set and the hard drive needs a replacement. I figured I just buy a brand new one. I also care zero for aesthetics.
However I'm in Poland and my budget is 5000PLN (let's say $1500).

>>107251836
The 5070ti is 900€ in my country. Its insane that's what we call midrange nowadays.

do stores usually price match amazon

may as well post cpu monkey bencharmarks now

>>107251875
there are no value cards in that segment, we were going to get a super nvidia refresh with 5080 super with 24 gb and 5070/ti super models with more vram, which were very interesting cards to potentially get, but the DRAM cartel ruined it

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NVME I bought two weeks ago is already 10% up. It's starting.

>>107251904
That is very demoralizing

>>107251883
once you factor in inflation, crypto and AI, it's actually insane that it's ONLY 900€

>>107251875
5070?
12gb is probably going to be annoying 5 years from now but it has enough performance for 1080p and 1440p.

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>retards get the chance to buy the equivalent of high end ampere for msrp before the second coming of the crypto bubble in terms of praise raising
>they still continue to say dumb shit like it has no value

Need me a chink version of X50 air. Is it really that hard to produce curved mesh?

>>107251932
Well he said 5070ti was midrange
>1440p
Considering I'm running a 2080ti with a 4790k at 1440p anything would be a huge upgrade
>5 years
Realistically how good would a 5090 be in 5 years though

>>107251457
>a desk that will vibrate and shudder with every single minute weight adjustment
Dumb, really dumb.

>>107251860
this. I'm sooooo glad i upgraded when i did, i even bought myself a 4TB samsung 990 pro for all my games. What a smart investment.

CRYPTO BUBBLE
AI BUBBLE
WE NEED MORE BUBBLES
$5000 GPUS AND $1000 RAM KITS 2027
LETS GOOOOO

>>107251881
do you have a list of retailers you can use? pcpp doesnt include your country
or i can give you pointers or what you are roughly looking for
however that said, im more informed about gaming cpus, for a more productivity related rig we hopefully will get some other anon's advice too

>>107251959
>Is it really that hard to produce curved mesh?
They said it was and kept showing off their failed attempts

>>107251911
If I had spare cash on hand I would buy as many PCI-5 2tb+ NVME's as there are ports on my mobo and keep them sealed for the time being, the prices haven't flew off yet and the choice is abundant, it is the second best time to buy. Even in the "worst" case it would be a neat stash of best storage on the market for side projects and media hoarding but in the "best' case a year or so later when the shortages are fully realized and price hits terminal velocity the sell payoff would cover a new gen upgrade.

>>107251967
>$1000 RAM KITS 2027
first quarter of 2026 actually

>>107251075
Don't care, not buying anything under *080 series anyways.

>Hear about MAX OLED about a year ago
>Think that it'll be great as it hits monitors and TVs
>Forget about it
>Look into it again a year later
>All the information is still just that one press release from a year ago, not a single update since
So it's dead, right? Are there any exciting breakthroughs or updates coming through in display technology, or will it always be a maze of weird tradeoffs?

>>107252008
>will it always be a maze of weird tradeoffs?
Yes. MicroLED will be the actual next big leap, until then minor improvements to OLED.
OLED is the best it gets right now, the only tradeoff is eventual burn-in, as major as it is.

>>107251971
I don't need THAT specialized computer for productivity, if it's good for games then it'll be fine. It's mostly polish retailers, so I don't think you can help me much here, and I'malso considering second-hand gear. But I'd gladly hear your suggestions.

>>107251988
But most mobos only have 2 PCIE 5.0 slots, the rest are 4.0.

>>107252055
you can shove your PCI-5 drive into PCI-4 port and it just werks, shitter but werks.

Alright gonna take out a $20k loan to buy memory and GPUs then sell it all next year

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>>107251960
>Realistically how good would a 5090 be in 5 years though
Probably pretty good. 4090 and 5090 can't really be compared to the old flagships. $2000 is insanity but they do perform, you open things that aren't doable on any other gpus. The 5080 you'd be doing the same things as a 5070ti, and realistically a 5070, you just have moar frames

>>107252115
make sure you buy the gpus from a place that has 60 days policy, you'll be able to return them if duiring the CES the super series get announced altough if you are buying 5090s this may not matter unless they announce a 5090 with 48 gb of vram

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>>107252127
>the super series

>>107250304
Cant get a job because drumpf and Nadella outsourced them all to india

https://www.techpowerup.com/343031/amd-fsr-redstone-arrives-december-10-exclusive-to-radeon-rx-9000-series

POODNA 2/3 FAGS STATUS?

>>107252125
Okay thanks, 5070ti is starting to sound like the most reasonable choice
What should I look out for with brands? I'm mostly interested in a quiet reliable card.
Willing to spend more for that.
Also electricity is cheap here so don't care so much about that

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If parts gets stupidly expensive will i finally be able to afford an OLED next year

>>107251719
I was high af when I planned , cut up the heat sinks and built the system .
I think my reasoning was having only chassis fans would be simpler and superior

>>107252034
>Cpu 7500f / 7600x / 9600x
>Cpu cooler a good 20-40€ well reviewed cooler available on those retailers
>Mobo any well reviewed b650/b850 board
>Memory 32gb of whatever is available hopefully something not to terrible in this shortage 6000/36CL or something
>1 tb (or 2) decently reviewed nvme
>a decent modern case you like
>a 750w (or 850w) gold certified semi (or fully) modular psu
>and then all you can spend on a gpu, im to understand that for rendering shit nvidia is ahead of amd so i put phat ass 5070TI on my example list, but you can go down to a 5070 or 5060TI or check the 2nd hand market for a card

https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/PLrLt3

Thats a 1570€ list in my country so at least you can see an idea of what your might end up looking like or whatever.

>>107252069
I'll think about it. My 5.0 slots are already filled, but I have another couple 4.0 ones that I also want to fill. Sooner rather than later.
I was thinking to get the last gen drives since they'll be more TB.

>>107250099
when i removed mine for cleaning it gently touched the floor at a weird angle and completely exploded.
it took me 3 hours to clean up glass from my carpet AND shake it out of my pc.
I haven't bought one since.

>>107252178
skip the SFF as they usually feature thinner coolers and smaller fans since they are... well small
some anon mentioned that the 5070TI by Pny has a bit of whine sound to it and some people in reddit mentioned too, and a while ago some anon mentioned it on the ventus oc
Other than those i dont have any specific advice on any of theothers, you will have to go by reviews

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>-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500F

JUST GET 7500X3D

>budget 7500X3D

>>107252213
im terrified of that
anytime i open the pc the glass panel goes to my bed and im still scared
probably will skip it too for the next case, ffs my case sits on the ground i dont even see the insides of the pc nor do i care
why i bought this case lol, im fucking retarded

>>107252195
Thank you very much, I'll save your suggestions

>>107251178
that CPU can't even run that GPU properly. Ryzen 5500 doesn't support PCIE-4 while the Ryzen 5600 does.

>>107252196
if you are going to buy for yourself than it doesn't matter if its 5 or 4 and if you were planning to buy more NVME anyway do it now. it is still a mostly buyers market and you can pick and choose what you want, it won't last long

First time building, roast me please
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KGPYnp
I'm only reasonably educated about CPU/GPU. Are the cooler/ram/PSU/MB good enough? Are there any substantial upgrades I should consider? Besides thermal paste, is there anything else I'm going to need that's not included with the parts?

If i have accepted i wont be buying 6000/30CL at that price whats my next go to?
6000/36 6000/38 ?
i have no idea what im doing

>>107252221
>JUST GET 7500X3D
THATS FOR PREBUILTS, EVEN IT IT WERE AVAILABLE OUTSIDE OF THAT IT WOULD BE A FUCKING RETARDED BUY

>>107252284
Cry and buy in 3 years.

why do anons here donate their time and effort to pick PC parts for other anons they will never meet
i don't get it

>>107252300
for the same reason we all watch buildzoid overclock and rant about ram for hours, we're nerds

>>107252270
Phantom spirit cooler is supposedly the evolution of the one you picked for the same price
Cpu coolers include paste unless you want to spend 10$ on better paste (you wont notice the difference, spend that money in tiramisu).
Mobo is a bit on the expensive side, nothing wrong with that i have an older Aorus model and i have no complaints but its a place where you could cut some corners
Consider a couple extra fans for the top of the case one on the front as intake one at the rear as exhaust
Consider an 850W if its not that much more expensive than 750W (you dont need it but might as well if its the same price)
Shit looks good anon

>>107252270
You'll probably want a better CPU cooler, especially if you're going to run at stock settings.

>>107252300
If anyone here bought the wrong components I would literally kill my self

What is a good MOBO for 9800x3d?

>>107252125
4090/5090 will probably last really well, it was a huge jump over the 3090

>>107252270
Doesn't that mobo have M.2 heat spreaders built in?

>>107252300
Its a comfy thread most of the time to get info about something that interests me
schizos post their news and rumors
and on the meantime if i can i can offer some advice, maybe help an anon from giving the jew machine an extra couple hundred dollars that he could save

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you know.
i know this steak is actually rendering at 23 fps.
I know that when i look at my 3840 x 2160 monitor, it's actually my GPU firing off and telling me a 480p image is actually 4k.
I know that this isn't real.
but in a world of $800 GPU's... frame generation is bliss.

>>107252270
Buy an aio
>but what if it leaks?!???
it won't. Don't buy the cheapest thing and the pump will make it at least 6/7 years too, maybe forever if you set a low rpm

is it stupid to buy a 7800x3d instead of just paying a little more and getting the 9800x3d

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>>107252125
>your pic
b-but the radeon fags told me 7900 XTX is better than a 4080S uwu

>>107252349
nta but yeah it has a big ass m2 heat spreader you have to remove if you want to add another disk in the future
so you have to remove the gpu and the heat spreader

>>107250242
wat?

OLED is widely regarded as the best for color and contrast

Not that I would buy a cheap OLED, nor do I own one - IPS for me because reasons - but a good OLED blows any VA out of the water when it comes to image quality.

burn-in is certainly real tho

>>107252270
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-x870-aorus-elite-wifi7-atx-motherboard-amd-x870-am5/p/N82E16813145519
You can get this X870 Gigabyte board for less right now on Newegg than that B850 board.

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>>107251635
full article if you are interested, its grim

>>107252363
excellent post

>>107252380
>but a good OLED blows any VA out of the water when it comes to image quality.
>Presents low quality text despite a 4k resolution in you're path
What now?

>>107252372
I've been running an old NZXT Kraken for 8 years, somehow it still works.

Alright, my fans just arrived, 5
i already put 3 front intake, 1 back exaust
idk where to put the 5th, i have slots on the top and bottom, and could be either intake or exaust
also, should the psu fan face bottom or upwards?

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>>107252375
ye

>>107252373
if you believe its "a little more" and felt the need to post that then you should 100% without a shred of a doubt purchase a 9800x3d
A lot of anons (me included) believe it not to be worth the bump but also i personally think its pretty close
but the language you used means that if you dont pick it it will gnaw at the back of you mind, so you do you anon

>>107251018
i use my fingers

>post pics of your cable mess and maybe we will help you with it

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my 5070 ti just arrived

>>107251118
dammit that is nerve-wracking, i hope you didn't get screwed by the vendor

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>>107252270
or consider the msi deal of their b850 and a 9800x3d for 570$

https://us-store.msi.com/Motherboards/AMD-Platform-Motherboard/B850-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI

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i got a gift of 12400f with rtx 4070 in 2023 christmas

do i need an upgrade to am5 or stay at ddr4?

>>107252375
>believing radeonjeets
Grim, AMD makes some great CPUs but their GPUs are dog shit.

>>107251163
they are this month

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>>107252408
>one game

>>107252125
>25 game average

>>107252448
>>107252460
>plays UE5 slop
*yawn*

I hate wifi on motherboards

>>107251118
>Aliexpress 7800x3d
Enjoy your 7300g

>>107251167
that sucks, anon

i put off building a pc for more than a year and then RAM prices shot through the roof right when i decided to buy

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>>107252465
>reality: couple games out of 25 are actually UE5 slop
welp

>>107251250
really now you didn't just take the bait, you jumped right into the boat there

>>107245307
asking about this again since thread is active now, thoughts on this anons?

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>>107252466
Why? It's a nice option to have. The gigabyte boards have that ez-plug, it's cool.

>>107252466
it's literally m.2 wifi cards, change it if you want

>>107251457
who tf still burns CDs in 2025?

im so glad i have ethernet

>>107252215
Thank you anon
And thanks to all the others that helped me this thread
Made me feel really cozy knowing people out there still just wanna help other anons

Realistically what's the best value current-gen CPU for heavy web browsing and media consumption (mpv) which will be still good for a decade at least?

>AMD rumored to raise GPU prices just as Radeon RX 9070 XT finally reaches MSRP
you know what, I guess I didn't really want a new pc anyway

>>107245307
2 fans at the bottom would be good, have the PSU fan facing up.

>>107252516
9900X if you're >95% sure you won't be gaming

>>107251710
>̷f̷u̷t̷a̷ ̷s̷i̷m̷u̷l̷a̷t̷o̷r̷
minimum vram needed for this?

>>107252539
is the psu fan intake or exaust? should the bottom fans be which as well?

>>107252559
I'll be gaming but it won't be my priority.

>>107252516
Just about anything. I’ve never had performance issues in MPV with my 12400.

>>107252477
the only two relevant games on that list are cyberpunk and baldurs gate 3

why even include starfield anymore or veilguard

>>107252447
I would just do an in socket upgrade, even locked raptor lake is definitely still performant enough to be relevant.

>>107252516
even the cheapest current gen would be an overkill for this

>>107252578
the X3D versions are 30-40% more expensive for extra ~20% gaming performance and no difference in computing tasks like web browsing or any general desktop usage
up to you to decide if you consider it worth the investment based on how much you expect to game

>>107251167
Only RAM and storage. GPUs will increase in price but it might take a month or two. Other components are mostly unaffected.

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Ok im about to order a 2TB SSD, options are 990 PRO for $216 or 990 EVO PLUS for $167, those are the prices in my silly country and they are non negotiable. Is the PRO worth 40 bucks more or should i get the EVO PLUS?

>>107252516
buy a raspberry pi, or better yet, a chinese raspberry pi that costs 20% of what the pi costs

>>107252637
>no difference in computing
You're telling me that a 9900X or a 265K isn't a faster than a 9800X3D in desktop usage and multitasking?

>>107252644
>or better yet, a chinese raspberry pi that costs 20% of what the pi costs
and stops reaching half the clocks after a month

>>107252648
it is, perhaps my wording wasn't clear, I meant the specific X3D counterparts
i.e. 9900X = 9900X3D in computing, but 9900X < 9900X3D in gaming

>>107251118
Cheating out on a possibly junk processor for like 50 bucks of savings is probably the most retarded place to cut corners on your PC

>>107252649
spoiler alert: they are all made in china

>>107252516
285K AMD cannot into media only gaming

>>107252516
anon im using a first gen i7-980 and can shitpost and watch videos ontop of non AVX instruction required gaming. you literally could use any cpu for this

>>107252325
Thank you, does this look better?
sWB93w (shortened the link, getting a spam warning)
Phantom Spirit is a fair bit more expensive locally, but as >>107252334 suggests upgrading the cooler anyway I'm looking at the EVO now, would it be enough cooling?

>mobo
This is the cheapest I can find with WiFi 7, and I will be mainly using WiFi. The tomahawk is cheaper on the site but I can't find it at a competitive price locally. Same for >>107252386
I upgraded to 850W, as you said the price difference is small so it's probably worth it

>fans
I am concerned about that, but I was planning to just run it with the case fans and see, if it's too hot or noisy then add a fan or two in the future. Adding a fan post-assembly shouldn't be too difficult, right?

>>107252349
Yep you're right, I forgot to update the name after choosing mobo

>>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sWB93w
It's my first build anon, I don't want to mess with liquid cooling while I'm clueless

>>107252442
Unfortunately I can't get this deal locally. I get significant tax discount from buying stuff locally rather than importing so I have to rawdog it without deals

>>107252638
what are the odds mobos, psus, cpus and oleds get some discount if the price hike means they cant sell their inventories next year

>>107252708
Oh, 4chan thought it was spam because I put in the link twice... that was supposed to be a reply to >>107252372 but apparently I fucked up the paste

>>107252539
>>107252571
still not 100% sure if it would be best to flip the PSU or not, but regardless seems like adding fans under the GPU / above the PSU shroud should improve GPU temps right?

>Lian Li A3 advertises a mesh front panel for PSU fan intake
>The power connector cable has to be twisted and bent at 90° to fit into a PSU reversed from the default fan orientation
>the offset bracket to give the cable more room at the top doesn't even have holes to mount to a PSU that is reversed
Fucking chinks damnit I knew it was too good to be true

>>107249896
Klarna

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>>107251255
>>107251860
If I dont plan to build until mid-late 2027 which do you think is better to buy atm?name? Pretty sure ram will have gone down a bit at that point, but what about nvme? I just bought a gpu and didnt want to spend anymore this year because am poorfag

>>107252826
>Pretty sure ram will have gone down a bit at that point
lol
LMAO

>>107252826
Electronics have an expiration date anon, I wouldn't buy storage that won't be used for 2+ years

what the fuck is partitioning? do i have to do that?
t. 1TB nvme (OS) + 2TB nvme (other)

>>107252637
this is a good point re: saving money but:

do you think that the X3D variants are more "future proof"? is not more/faster cache relevant in any scenarios other than gaming? e.g., why do workstation processors typically have large amounts of cache?

not trying to start an argument, i actually cannot answer these questions for myself so am looking for input

>i think >>107252516 might even be happy with some iGPU in a chinkshit minipc if its just a box for shitposting and watching a collection of torrented hentai

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>>107250508
Just recently found out that she and Jensen are cousins. Why does nobody talk about that? Doesn't necessarily matter, but I feel like it should be common knowledge because it's such a weird ccoincidence

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Will I regret buying a 5090? I have a 4080 super.

>>107252708
>I'm looking at the EVO now, would it be enough cooling?
yeah, most people pick the SE but the evo should be a bit better when it has to let it rip
>This is the cheapest I can find with WiFi 7, and I will be mainly using WiFi
Thats the kind of stuff you should say when posting a list, cause as you saw you got several comments about the mobo
> Adding a fan post-assembly shouldn't be too difficult, right?
0 problem, buy a pack of 2 fans, daisy chain them, screw them and connect to the nearest fan header, your mobo will have several not in use

List is fine anon

>>107251648
AMD is going to quit the consumer discrete GPU market. Intel is on our last hope against jacket man.

I can't wait to buy a 7060ti that has the same performance as a 5080.

>>107252844
NTA but I'm just itching on buying a maxed out R9 9950X system for around 1.5k eurodollars to act as a cpu bound workload workstation because I experiment with niche AI slop models and do some quantum chemical calculations for work/ideas in work. Might even pop in two gpus to go absolutely nuts on even more ai slop and vydia. But honestly I dont even know why should because i dont have the time for my self due to GF and work let alone vydia. If i do decide to invest the money in to the nice 2k paper weight of a system in the corner I will still loose anyway, so I might as well just wait to see if the ram gets cheaper, if not its not going to kill my wallet anyway because I'm retarded in general.

>>107252930
>quantum chemical calculations
which code do you run?

>>107250641
Unironically, if i ever want to hoard storage/hdd’s, how would i go about choosing the right drive?

Just got my LG ultragear 27″ 27g610a‑b. Running on a 1060 6GB and will be upgrading whenever ram prices come down. I can't run this monitor at 200hz with HDR on, is that normal? It flickers everything including the task bar I'm guessing it is a bandwidth issue with the old cable I'm using (10+ years old no idea what DP standard) or my old GPU. I'd use the one that came with the monitor but it laughable short. I can run 200hz with no HDR and I think it works OK at 144hz with all the other crap enabled. I noticed that If I move my mouse cursor really fast on certain solid colors (white, pink, orange, yellow) the mouse cursor disappears even at 144hz/200hz (haven't tried 60). Some colors like black just do what my old IPS did and leave behind an after image. Anything else I should test for like banding or whatnot? I don't see any dead pixels... hopefully.

TL;dr
Do I roll 144hz with HDR and adaptive sync on or 200hz with HDR OFF and adaptive sync on?

>>107252847
What? It'll go bad just sitting in the packaging for a couple of years? Thought it'd take at least 5 years?

>>107252953
Definitely your ancient GPU and probably the cable, too.

>>107252918
Thank you very much for all the advice
>Thats the kind of stuff you should say when posting a list, cause as you saw you got several comments about the mobo
Yeah you're right, I didn't even consider explaining this. To be fair I am mostly after a sanity check and obvious upgrades, I don't mind overpaying a bit if it's for good parts
The 5-pack arctic P12 is ridiculously cheap, so I'll think about the fans a little more. Though trying to install 5 extra fans sounds daunting. Would more fans make it more quiet or more noisy overall?

I sound have bought gen5 nvme...

I guess it's time for a new thread
>>107252961
>>107252961
>>107252961

>>107252946
Orca in general, more interested in small/medium organic system with a few heavy halogen atoms and an occasional nickel/zinc atom that i can plop landz on.

I know that orca scales well up to like 16 cores, no point in going with a threadripper (mobos are expensive as entire high end systems what the fuck are they smoking) because at that point I would request a cluster anyway.
The ram situation is pissing me off, cause i cant fully use up the 192 gb ram now, since that would essentially double the cost and some double hybrids or dplno-ccsd(t) can consume up to 16 gb of ram per core. Hence why im also kind of considering the 12 core chip with a bit of a higher frequency if i decide to lowball to 64 gb

>>107252826
Do you have an NVMe drive? if you don't just buy the cheapest 1tb NVMe m.2 available for you, Crucial P310 for example, 1tb is good enough for your system and some gayms, 2tb is better but it will depend on your budget. Going from no NVMe to NVMe is massive quality of life upgrade for a pretty low price so it is the only thing I would conciser on a really tight budget.
If you just bought a GPU then you have a working PC it went in, right? so you already have some RAM, be content with it. If you are poor there are some things you just can't afford and honestly, building PC in 2027 will be one of them.

>>107252914
(((ccoincidence)))
falling for the gookjew

>>107252950
it depends on what you want and how you will use it. Will you build a raid server stack? will you just fill every sata port on your motherboard? or maybe an external drive case solution? What is your budget? Do you need NVMe speed? Do you need excess reliability? Do you need stupid huge storage space? Which one is a priority?
All of these questions will guide you to the right drive or at least nail it down significantly.

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>>107252965
>The 5-pack arctic P12 is ridiculously cheap, so I'll think about the fans a little more. Though trying to install 5 extra fans sounds daunting. Would more fans make it more quiet or more noisy overall?
if you set the fans with a low curve to just add a bit of fresh air and exahust should be quieter as they wont add much noise themselves and keep the system a bit cooler preventing it to reach the higher points of noise, that said it might be overkill
Im a big fan of just adding 2 at the top on this setup and forgetting about the world
I mean most cases are pretty similar and im not gonna pretend to know better than noctua
That said you could also put the rest above the psu shroud if needed.
Again installing fans is very simple, decide if you want them as exhaust or intake, daisy chain them then screw them to the top of your case (or top of the psu as i mentioned) and plug them onto a random fan header, you mobo will have several open

>>107253035
Yeah I have 2tb and a 1tb nvme (gen 4 and gen 3 respectively). I was talking about for a future am5 zen 6 build. Just trying to figure if prices are going to be that much worse by then.

>>107253092
they will be, much worse. 2026 & 2027 are shaping up to be the dead years for RAM & NVMe consumer market, which in turn will hit any hardware that uses these chips.

>>107253116
Moving to the new thread I guess

>>107252915
If you have to ask, probably.

>>107252115
I have 20k cash on hand (30 actually) should i unironically do this and double my money?

>>107252407
Id put 2 front intake
1 bottom intake
1 up top the cpu exhaust
1 rear exhaust

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>>107252924
B770 is never coming, Celestial desktop has already been cancelled and only getting IGP implementations, Intel is effectively already out of the dGPU market. You vill pay $799 for an insufficient VRAM Nvidia card and you vill like it.