Laboratory Edition How to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Papers, etc.):https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/>/iemg/'s Blog/Wiki (Archive, Music Editorial, etc.):https://4ciemg.github.io/IEMGazette/>Frequency Response Graph Toolsquig.link>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• Tripowin Ruta10 (Mild V) - $18• Tanchjim Bunny DSP (Mild U) - $22• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22• EPZ Q1 Pro (V-shape) - $35>Bullet IEMs:• Tanchjim ONE DSP (5 Presets/5-Band PEQ) - $28• Etymotic ER2XR (Neutral) - $140>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) $18• Tanchjim Stargate II (8-Band PEQ) - $38• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110>PMPs:• HiBy R1 - $85• HiBy M300 - $200>AVOID USING:• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver posPrevious Thread: >>107238691
If EPZ makes one qkz x hbb equivalent I will shill them forever
>>107254293>Tanchjim surrounded by big blacks
/iemg/ Dogma Check Tired of the hivemind? Here’s your prescribed sanity dose:>Crinacle is not your priest.Rankings are a guide, not divine scripture. Your ears > his spreadsheet.>Harman ≠ perfect.It’s a preference curve, not a law of physics. Some genres need deviation.>Chi-Fi isn’t magic.Great value, yes. Immune to qc issues and hype cycles? Nah.>Graphs are not sound.They don’t show staging, dynamics, or fit. Use your ears, not just squigs.>BA ≠ metallic, DD ≠ perfect.Implementation matters more than driver type. Always has.>Meme sets aren’t the whole hobby.If it’s not shilled 24/7, it might still be good. It's highly encouraged to form an original opinion.>Disagreeing ≠ cope or deaf.Let people like what they like without foaming at the mouth.>Loud posts =/= smart takes.Confidence without experience is just noise. Show graphs, impressions, or both.This has been your scheduled break from pos groupthink.
>>107254404Ur cute :3
>>107254232The P7 looks more fatiguing than the Daybreak on the graph. I guess that's what you're saying. Agreed. Maybe some people are extra sensitive to the 3-4k region? Thats the only place where the Daybreak is more forward.
But yeah it's strange. One person on reddt says the Daybreak is much brighter sounding than the Top Pro. Graphs really are quite unreliable.
>>107254569Might be a common thing because the wide bore tips are included with daybreak now to tame it a little.
>>107254599insertion depth will change sound profile dramaticallygraphs are reliable if you understand how they actually work and why they are needed in the first place
>>107254309they already make a bunch of dogshit pos
>>107254841Getting a good seal is tricky sometimes. Presumably a shallow fit causes harshness
>>107254857Its not even about foxes or dildos at this point, the Q1 would kill itself like a tranny with no shaving cream if I attempted this EQ
>>107254293do i get space walkers, KZ Sora, some xiamois or lenovos
>>107254908both sound equally shit in different waysvariety is the spice of life :)
>>107254873>Presumably a shallow fit causes harshnessnahinsertion depth is also inseparable from length modes. any fit can result in harshness depending on iem's tuning and anatomy
>>107254938nta, but have you listened to either pos?
>>107254943with all the stealth revisions does it even matter?
>>107254943the answer is no, he experienced an audiatory hallucination after looking at a graph
>>107255047trvke, but i got the preorder gacha legendary revision hbb, then I spun the wheel 3 more times and got fakes, but that tells you how good it was
>>107253194>>107253681Assuming I DO want something somewhat V Shaped is the Tea Pro the move? All of them look tamer in the highs than my old OH10s and have more mids lol. Martilo looks like a one trick pony so I dropped it
>>107255185there's really no point in looking at graphs at allthe difference from fit/anatomy is like +-5 dB at any point of the graph
>>107255185Are you the abo? Get the martilo you nigger
>>107255276>>Are you the abo? Get the martilo you niggerI am a white midwesterner anon
>>107255185some anons here have glazed tea pro like no tomorrow, so maybe its not a bad pick, never heard of anyone complaining about a tea pro desu
>>107255185All of them are somewhat V shaped though. But yeah it comes down to whether you prefer sub bass or mid bass, and how much treble energy (and extension) you're looking for.I think the Tea Pro is a good choice too. Lots of people like it. I'd still pick the Volume S myself but that's only because I think it's a safer choice. But I haven't listened to either. In reality the Tea Pro might be better. Only way to know is to try them out.
I wash my ear canals with a 50/50 mix of hydrogen peroxide and distilled water every 2-3 daysOkay tips and insertion depth are the biggest game changer for the quality of the sound coming out of the daybreaks, once I figured it out properly for my ears it sounds incredible, I sat there in darkness for 50 minutes in just utter fucking bliss away from the rest of the world experiencing tubular bells.
For a V shape I wouldn't sleep on the Diablo either.
>>107255309>>107255436The only real complaints I've seen with the Tea Pro is fit causing pain for some and somewhat dodgy QC>>107255611This looks kinda good. Isn't this just a single planar iem? Might blind buy since on the coins page its up to extra 55% off with coins
sibilance is actually a good thing, stridency is an intentional musical characteristic
>>107255670Asano Tanch loves big black peaks
I never knew toto's Africa is mastered so well, I always thought it sounded shitty when played from speakers
>>107255123it's always someone who never tried the pos saying the pos sounds like shit.
>>107255753It’s better than modern slop but I wouldn’t use it as reference. Theres still Brazil 66 for that.
4mm termination balanced jack top cap housing came off of my daybreaks, it's just cosmetic deterioration (for now) so it's fine
>>107256517t-minus x days until the wiring to the pcb seppukus itself
>>107255688good lord what is happening in there
I can't wait until I get the Artti T10 Pro and Intuaura Balance.
Which IEM mutes cymbal hits? I don't want to hear them at all.
good wireless bluetooth earbuds?i jog and work manual labor so carrying a DAC and wires and shit aint great.
>>107257013Buds FE are competent and can be had for a good deal online. Moondrop Space Travel 2 are fine if you need to go even cheaper
>>107256517crin talked about it in his daybreak "problems" videoit was supposed to be fixed with new batches
>>107254908>fox IEM won't handle fox targetWhat did he mean by this.
imagine reading a 6 million page guide only to end up with thator don't, cause nobody has ever read the eq guide
>>107255688this is why you eq kids
Best/favorite IEM for listening to audiobooks? For me, the ultimate would provide:1. Comfortable sound (good bass and mids and controlled/subdued treble, so you don't hear any harshness on bad recordings)2. Comfortable to wear for many hours (small and lightweight shells, thin nozzles)3. Good sound isolationRight now my favorite is the KZ Castor Bass. The bassy sound makes voices calming to listen to (but still clear). My Simgot EW300 is a lot more comfortable to wear though, but the treble peaks makes it unable to play back audiobooks well.
>>107257493Pretty nice target. By why did you add in a peak at 8k? It's weird, Jaytiss did this too on his target. Don't say "bcs measurement". A target is not a measurement.
Why are most chi-fis tuned for female vocals specifically? To make them as loud as possible? Do most people really mainly listen to female vocalists?
>>107257667Optimized for fox sounds.
>>107255688The ringing in my ear is now a feature for sale?
how do you not rip out your headphone when it's plugged into your desktop?
>>107257800Magnets
>>107257758
>>107257667So those that can't EQ won't EQ a peak that isn't there for 99% of people. Those that can EQ don't need targets.
>>107257742Asians have shorter ear canals so they hear less 5kHz and more 250Hz, to them it sounds neutral. But most top 40 tracks are female slop.
>>107257809where can i buy this
Can you train your ears?IEMs, or anything in ear eventually irritate the ear to get really waxy and push about wax in my ear until I spend a few days with a muffled ear.iems for this feel
why does Aful have such retarded tuning with low ear gain but boosted 8k? it's bloated and spicy at the same time and like the name suggests, Awful
>>107258245Get an ear enema
>>107258422I get my shit cleared out during the eventual blockage. Maybe it is just RNG.
>>107256766That's how you EQ techs in. Peak of sound.
>>107257656Truthear Pure almost fits the bill, just its shells are medium in size, but very lightweightEtymotic ER2XR with comfier tips (like Final E) might also be a good option, they're the smallest you can get and have exceptionally thin nozzles
>>107257892Aliexpress.
>>107257825Actually it will be 220 bucks for the induced tinnitus sir.
I was born with tinnitus, now what
>>107259126don't do that
>>107259126me too, doesn't bother me
>>107254293>Tanchjim lab, 5218, anechoic chamber >Not a single good treble quality pos release Some companies are simply born miserable
Are the tangshit 2s that much better? the jade of firsts design is more bussin
>>107259470No but the tips they come with are very good for the price and normally sell for over $10 on their own
>>107259467Lol didnt you see some of their promotional material? They literally have roasties in charge of tuning. Literal woman deciding whats good and whats not. They should hire a bunch of nerds like me to make the biggest bass cannons in existence. Hell its a step down from oxygen, at least in those times they knew how to tune an iem. They honestly are just riding off the success of oxygen/hana and not much else.
>>107259470Also you should know the jade version of the original is a completely different tuning than the regular originals and generally are not well liked
bros, which one should I get?1. Snowsky Echo Melody2. Snowsky Echo Tiny3. Snowksy Echo Mini4. EPZ TP35 Proonly been using JM6 Pro this whole time, and wanted an upgrade and I'm only using Tanchjim Ola, Tin Hifi C2 OG, and Truthear Nova atm
>>107260199EPZ TP35 Pro
>>107259966What the helly
Ordered some shitty baseus XC1 clip-on earbuds for like 80 bucks, kinda wondering what will those sound like, never tried this type of buds before. Maybe a miracle will happen and those will be harman tuned. No measurements anywhere which is mildly disconcerting.
>>107257555poetry
What are some good headphones for ASMR listening? I've noticed that Gaming Headsets work really well for me since they are usually bass heavy and have a very 3 dimensional soundstage, but I'm looking to upgrade to something nicer.
>>107261153Punch Audio
>>107259467FOLA and NORA fixed the upper-treble peak, stfu!
>>107261575>no 5128 graphNo they didnt.
>>107261627>doesn't know realabhttps://www.realab.com/data/1756574466739.html
>>107261691>wide bore>still has a peak>weird ping pong websitekek, tanchjim not beating the earrape allegations
>>107261691how could they even release origin like this tho, how scummy of them to risk their customers hearing
best music device to listen to doja cat on?
>>107261828>wide boreso?>still has a peakinnofensive and within bounds>weird ping pong websitenice argument, because crinacle isn't a chink too, r8?also fola has a modular cable with DSP, just get gud
>>107261896won't matter, you'll be on meth anyway
>>107259126Same, it’s no big deal. I can always hear a high pitched tone if I focus on it, but it completely gets overpowered by daily life or music. My family thought I was fucking crazy as a kid though when I asked them about “that sound you can only hear when it’s quiet” one time, though, lol.
>>107262124Same, kek. I lived in a very quiet neighborhood and when I complained about the noise at night to my parents they gave me a weird look and said it would soon go away. That was 25 years ago. It really only bothers me when going to bed sometimes.
no reason to get Fola or Origin since Nora exists.
I'm currently burning in my KZ Kuntens. Ive never burned in any iems before. But Im trying it because why not?
>>107262005So whats your response to >>107261846?>heh you fell for it gweiloFuck tanchjim. Shouldve listened to the fox faggots.
I dont think tanchjim corrected anything, they just put their shitty driver in a plastic shell and called it a day
obsessed
>>107262489bitch, tanchjim knows le driver quality secrets
>>107262652which is what, use the same driver over and over again?
>>107262664No reason to change what works
jim raped this anon with xer giant trans cock
>>107262776treble peak*
>>107262435It doesnt do anything. The only real burn in is "brain burn in" of you getting used to a sound signature while listening to it
>>107262831Well let's see. Maybe it does something. Nothing to lose.
>>107262827treble peak is not real unlike your gaped asshole
>>107262887>>107262887>5128 sees massive peak>I hear massive peakThe only thing thats not real is your made up gender
>>107262925having length mode resonances in your ears is a training issue
>>107254293It's been 5 fucking days since the niggers at linsoul shipped my 7hz divine, and just fucking now there's been any advancement in the shipping process.I fucking hate chinks and how they don't want to fucking work.
>>107262957ching chong ping pong prease buy ma shitty iem gweilo no treburu peak
>>107262960they ran out of stock on like day 2(from nov 10th), it's now a 2 week wait
>>107262697no reason to rehouse the same driver and resell it as entirely new pos a couple times under the same brand. tanchjim doesn't know what they're doing.
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>>107262887>t. Deaf boomer
>>107262980Yeah, but I bought them day one and they shipped it 3 days after, the problem is that the yanwen niggas didn't do shit for 5 days straight with my package and just today they sent it to the airport.
>>107262982 > >>107259939Ping pong roasties just care about cute shells and anime characters, so they just rehouse the same driver since they dont even bother listening to them in the first place
>>107262991graphcel
>>107263004yanwen is getting raped by 11.11 packages mine haven't even cleared customs yet
At least moondrop offered variety
Wasn't the EQ guide was supposed to fix these retards reading into upper treble in graphs?
>>107263057A hearing hazad like the origin should just be discarded to prevent any damage, you dont even wanna run a sine sweep on that garbage
>>107263016>peaks arent real...THEY JUST ARENT OKAYKiwi Ears Astral has an absolutely ear rape spike that I assure you, you can hear even without seeing any damn graph.
>>107263135it sounds like your ears just suck
>>107263161It sounds like you're paid to post
>>107263179cope
>>107263161nta, but have you personally heard astrals?
>>107263236why does that matter?
>>107263247Because if you don't trust graphs surely you trust your own ears? I have heard astral and that was my experience. Others have also shared the same experience and posted about it.
>>107263286i trust nothing for upper treble above 8K, graphs are inaccurate and everybody hears it differently
TRI Draco, anyone tried this? It looks like a great IEM to me. Strong mid bass, subdued treble. Only $40 now on Ali (before coupons).
>>107263351lmao
eqzos, our response??
>>107263356What?
>>107263370only points 4 and 5 are accurate
>>107263373this dude's coupler is so fucked lol
>>1072633045128 is not inaccurate after 8k>>107263209this chigger is ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY paid to post
>>107263422correct, 5128 is inaccurate above 0hz
>>107263418Another one
>>107263247so you haven't actually tried them, got it.
>>107263451its better than a trashjim, thats for sure
>>107263451mids dipped lower than harman ain't it
>>107263482lmfao
>>107263506still better than trannyjizz
>>107263518lol
>lol
>>107263506that's techs
>>107263588true
Im the guy who kept recommending the Softears Volume S yesterday. Now I just ordered it. Got it for $295 with tax.LETS GO.
>>107263615bait.
>>107263370they missed the biggest drawbacks>any "improvements" from EQ are subjective and marginal enough that 99% of people are better off just getting used to their hardware's dry sound (most of what people like most are what they're used to from what they listen with, not what's "correct" based on subjective reference curves)>not every device you're likely to listen on is going to even support EQ only on the headphone out (especially if you're going to be plugging into hardware mixers, audio interfaces like focusrite, etc)>need to switch EQ profiles every time you run the same output to a different device - but again, it doesn't matter that much, because most people can't even tell when they're using the "wrong" EQ preset for the device they're currently using
>>107263640Why bait?
>>107263656Personally I don't even notice much of a difference when EQing. If I EQ one IEM to the graph of another, it still sounds like the same IEM (and not what Im trying to EQ to).
>>107263615Overpaid. Its 240 after coupon and you can get a bunch more off with coins
>>107263596now this is being mad kek, i dont need to post meme eq's to embarass your shit company
>>107263679Please stop you're killing guidezo
>>107263683I got it for 221 with coupons, then $73 in tax.
>>107263701what do you mean meme thats a real graph
>>107263679mega retardEQ 10 dB with q 4 at 7kstill don't hear a difference? deaf fuck
>>107263705you mean peqdb jeets, there's a difference
>>107263679>If I EQ one IEM to the graph of another, it still sounds like the same IEM (and not what Im trying to EQ to)because FR graph is not FR at your eardrumhow is it so hard for some people to understand?if you knew difference your HRTF applies you could do itotherwise you need to EQ by ear
>>107263746(and like 80% of graphschizos but that's a given)
>>107263743Of course I hear a difference then but it wont sound better like that. And when you only increase or decrease 2-3 db then I cant hear the difference anymore. In the end it will still sound like the original, just slightly different. It wont sound like a completely different iem from my experience.
Guidezo rolling in his grave
>>107263754>because FR graph is not FR at your eardrumI know>otherwise you need to EQ by earToo hard (for me). Not enough skills.
>>107263679>If I EQ one IEM to the graph of another, it still sounds like the same IEM (and not what Im trying to EQ to)yep, that tracks, and the people who will say "skill issue" to that are generally covering up the fact that they can't actually tell that much of a difference either without massive, like 8-10dB q<=3-4 boosts/cuts (at which point, lmao, just use different headphones/IEMs)
>>107263782Exactly. EQ has way less impact than you'd expect if you thought graphs were all that mattered.
>>107263759if you want it to "sound better" you need to understand where this "better" lies for you in the first place.Start with 2 shelves treble and bass like in harman research. When you understand your basic preference you might try to EQ something more detailed. It's always better to have reference too like speakers or good headphones.>And when you only increase or decrease 2-3 db then I cant hear the difference anymore.only small 1dB changes are hard to hear for me. 2dB is very noticeable almost for everything. liek for example -2dB bass shelf will be very obvious >In the end it will still sound like the original, just slightly different.>It wont sound like a completely different iem from my experiencewhat's the difference?also obviously it won't sound like a different iem when you are not EQing it to sound like a different IEM,
>>107263800that's falseyou just don't know what FR at your eardrum looks likeif you did EQing would not be a problem>graphs were all that matteredthere's quite literally nothing else
>>107263370Chatgpt lost
>>107263782>>107263800both of you are just straight up talking out of your asses loluse pink noise if you can't notice a difference with music.
>>107263774>Too hard (for me). Not enough skills.no shitevery complain about eq is skill issue why pretend it was EQ false in the first place? but even with EQ it's always better to demo IEMs before buying and buy one that satisfies your needs the best then apply a little bit of EQ to make it perfect.
>>107263884your post shows some pretty major skill issues when it comes to speaking the english language
>>107263884saar good morning from singapòre, I love transjim iems, very good precious sound beautiful asano, please redeem new FOLA
>>107263967I don't give a fuck
I cancelled my Volume S order. I have too many IEMs already and Im still waiting for two of them to be delivered. Can always buy them some other time. Hopefully on Amazon (so I can return them if I dont like them).
>>107264394you did a good thing, honestly, by cancelling the order.
>>107262522underrated quality post
>>107262481Never doubt fox IEM.
>>107264615cute coon
Good morning sirs how do I danlod techs?
>>107262985>R-2R>bit-perfect DAC Does he know?
>>107265189that it's rolling off all his treble? nah don't bother it's basically hearing protection for retards at this point
>>107265229Its "bitperfectness" is limited to the factor of how good are the resistors matched in the R-2R ladder, which in this case is not exceptionally great and yields more errors than cheap deltasigma DACs.
>>107265130https://distortaudio.org/index.htmlengoy
Is the Moondrop Space Travel 2 good? I have the first one and it sounds alright, very convenient. I did buy foam tips for it though and can't really be bothered to buy them again (hard to clean as well). Don't mind spending slightly more if there's a better pair
So... If I buy pr2 which one should I expect?
also qkzxhbb guy they finally made a set for you
>>107265681Isnt this the same with all brands? Unit variation is big. You never know what you're gonna get.
>>107254293This thread doesn't seem to include bookshelf speakers, but I have a question...Will I burn my house down if I daisy chain banana plugs? Is this an intended use case? Just hypothetically, I don't have multiple sets of stereo speakers.
>>107265982They're literally built to do that
>>107265688buy an ad fatty
>>107265935>Isnt this the same with all brands?no?
>>107265935>Unit variation is bigthere's unit variation and then there's this dogshit
>>107265688Its a cash money set, now I just need to sell this Origin to some sucker to grab me one
got a few of these cables to flip on ebay and amazon for 5 times what i paid for.
>>107266407Damn I had that in my cart the other day and it was $14 USD.
since the headphone general is gone Im asking here. Which aftermarket ear pad is good for the MDR-7506, current pads are starting to flake.
>>107266769I've heard praises for Yaxi pads on 7506 Although I can't personally vouch for them
>>107265681you're getting pr2v3, the best one. just eq the ear rape and you're golden
Equalizing isn't enough, others must go deaf.
>he doesn't insert his semi's deep enough>he uses oversized eartips
>>107266793how much does tyvan pay you to move his old stock
>>107266810Graduation day at Tanchjim School
Can I get the Diablos via shenzen audio? I dont trust Rinsour, my shenzen frens never failed me
>>107266898PR2v3 is literally a new $5 shitbud. So new, you don't have a chart of it to impotently post.
Hope they ship my Tangzu x Azla Noirblanc soon.
Are the AEX70 on ali legit? Thinking about finally trying them and the weirdass AEX50 but INfiter has them for a bit less than from acoustune direct with coupons
>>107267043you don't need charts to figure out kz is garbage
It's called $5 shitbuds dad it's wired and has much lower THD, it's superior to your gay Airpods here take a look at the Chu2 box art
On Head-Fi right now they're saying the KZ Kunten sounds similar to the Juzear Defiant, only better.What the fuck are they smoking over there?
>>107267165why is that hard to believe?
>>107267231Because its not very good. I prefer the EDC Pro.
my favorite $5 shitbuds are still chu2, pr2 and cvj luki (the niggest of them all)
I hope eqing my Konoka doesn't end up just disabling the nozzle BA cuz then I'd just have 2 Lukis
>>107267165Kunten is nearly free rn but I'm still waiting to blow my load on Decet
>>107267367Cadenza is mine
More jeet minds failing to comprehend the time domain. Enjoy your bit-perfect 1bit DSD on your RU7s my brothers.>>107265189>>107265229>>107265287
This is real music:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkhFsX2F4xIWhat's the best tuning for it? Neutral? V shape?
>>107267087They look so good.
>>107267782True. But looks like a standard Harman tuning. I wonder if it will sound different than the Wan'er?
>>107267826I bought these fully expecting them to sound worse than the Wan'er, and initial measurements are more or less validating my feelings.
This was KZ's peak of innovation, all they do now is copy other brands.One of the best shitbuds, just make sure to use the balanced filter instead of the bass one that it comes with.
>>107268044So you only bought them for the looks and/or build quality?If so I get it. I dislike using cheap shit, even if they sometimes sound good. I also want a beautiful shell and cable to look at (and fondle).
>>107268705For both and for fit. I'm gambling a bit on the latter since Tangzu sets are 50/50 in my experience, but they look small, sleek, and most importantly don't have any writing or branding on them.The EM6L almost fit the bill but the QDC connectors are starting to fracture on mine so I'm going with these.Also, very little information or reviews about these so I'll measure and post my usual suite.
>>107268705A big reason I bought the T10 Pros is because I like the way they look. Been debating getting the Juzear Defiant (green version) to and attach them to a gold cable. But now everybody has those so it's not as interesting anymore.
>>107268721Cool. I had the exact same thinking when I ordered the Intuaura Balance last week. They have thin nozzles (5.5mm) and apparently small shells. They're also lightweight. I also think they look beautiful, especially the cable that comes with it. It's a single DD with a standard tuning (similar to the Tanchjim Fission/Origin or KZ Zenith). But yeah these, the T10 Pros and the Aful Explorers with my new gold plated cable will look so nice laying next to each other on my desk.
>>107268741Oh I was also debating the Balance, they look nice with the cool huge vent, but I have enough similar resin sets so I held off. We'll see, I have a few cable matches that could fit the Noirblanc so I'll see what fits the best. Looking forward to all the impressions post 11.11/BFCM
I like the tuning of the 7hz Diablo. It's a shame it's such an ugly iem to look at.
>>107268757Nice. Probably all black or silver would fit them well. Post your impressions about them when youve tested them!
skipping kunten and duonic, going straight to decet
>>107265516From what I remember reading when space travel 2 dropped i think the original sounded better but 2 has more battery life
Because of this discussion about beautiful IEMs, I just got motivated to put in a final order before the sale ends (which happens in 10 minutes). Got the Shanling ME600 (silver). Comes with MMCX connectors too which I like.
>>107268879>MMCXim sorry
>>107268885I like it. Never had a problem with this connector. With 2 pins though, I've had the connector on the iems break. Sure it's a little more work switching cables, but that's it.
>>107268879They look odd but nice. Tuning is pretty bad tho
>>107268916>Tuning is pretty bad thoWhat makes you say it's bad? Is it the dip in the upper mids (from like 4-6k)? If so I think I will enjoy that because I'm usually sensitive to that frequency range. Also it comes with three tuning nozzles.
>>107268879Can't compete with fox IEM.
Good news! You thought 11.11 was over? Perhaps. But sales aren't. Cause the same minute that sale ended, we're now in Black Friday for another 2 weeks. What more IEMs are you buying now?
Black Friday is even better than 11.11. I had these in my cart and they were $325 just 15 minutes ago.
>>107268994Im buying 5 epz niggerbass edition when they release
>>107267002there's always amazon
I have both the crinear daybreak's and truthear pure, with the right tips and a bit of EQ the pure sounds like 90% of the daybreak, great little set for carefree outdoor use.
>>107270166BA pos, avoid. Pre-obsoleted by EDC Pro. You are brown.
Man it's been two or even three years already and you stupid fucks are still saying the same pointless shit every day
>>107270193to read EQ Guide? you're right, we shouldn't talk about it anymore
>bought cano cristales, top pros and fiio m21 at the start of october>ended up being cheaper than all the 11/11 salesgetting real tired of this black friday jewery
Bought Fola, what will I think of it?
>>107270529Worse than 20$ QKZ
Forget shitbuds, now we have nicebudsPrice is 20 CNY, or 3$.
>>107271176
>>107270166THD costs extra.
great flatheads. they need to make version with detachable cable. stock one sucks.
does anyone here listen to vinyl with their pos? not asking about vinyl rips at all. tried it out recently with some chus and was pleasantly more intent on listening than with speakers.
>>107272121are you eqing your vinyl with an analog eq box or stuffing foam into the nozzle? asking for my wife's boyfriend
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>artists record using PCM>audiophiles convert to DSDwhy
>>107272365He converts it to PCM with EQ so it all works out in the end.
>>107271188They look like tiny shower heads.
>>107272196Tell me something this expensive has multiple memory settings and a visual LED indicator to let me know where I left the dial the last time, right?
>bit-perfect RU 7>Out of all 1bit DACs he picks one based on resistor ladders, limited by resistor matching tolerance and temperature drift instead of pure 1bit FPGA DACHe wishes he didn't know
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>>107272935What speakers are you using yo test this?
>>107273648cheap ass shit speakersnot even branded, it says it's 10w
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>>107268116dunno, I have the original ED9 and they were pretty disappointing. For KZ "Pro" doesn't mean "better", it just means "pay us again".
>>107272935i just realised what i made is essentially a beam former
The Pure box is so nice it feels like a waste to throw it away, don't want to hoard shit though ;_;
>>107274154sell it to weebs
Am i crazy for wanting the S12 whatever the fuck the latest version is in 2025? Seems to match my library very well
So how imporant is "source quality" (the DAC/amp)? People on Head Fi claim it is just as important as the iems. For example even if two devices use the same DAC chips, the more expensive ones tend to sound better because they have cleaner electricity. Is this really true or not?
>>107274561It's true to a certain extent, lower noisefloor, cleaner amp, less hiss, higher dynamic range, sufficient headroom, this all matter, its just that iemg and headfi are opposite extremes and the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
>>107274561>So how imporant is "source quality" (the DAC/amp)not important at all.>Is this really true or notobviously it's not trueas far as IEMs go something like apple dongle is sufficient>>107274598>lower noisefloor, cleaner amp, less hiss, higher dynamic range, sufficient headroomyeah guess how apple dongle measures in all of these metrics (even headroom is enough for probably all IEMs)
>>107274598>>107274634Lots of people say the iBasso DAPs have better sound quality than most others. Shanlings are also highly regarded, especially their more expensive models. Hiby and Fiio apparently has worse sound quality. And the Fiio M21 supposedly sounds better than the J21.
>>107274743>Lots of people say the iBasso DAPs have better sound quality than most othersand they will fail to prove itdoes it change FR of your IEM? if it does there's no guarantee change will be for the better.if it doesn't change it and is transparent (as it should be) it means it does nothing to sound quality.>Shanlings are also highly regarded, especially their more expensive models. Hiby and Fiio apparently has worse sound quality. And the Fiio M21 supposedly sounds better than the J21.all of these are meaningless opinions.
>>107274634no one said anything about apple dongle, you just felt pressed about it brokie
>>107274561It's the most essential part of the audio chain, but it's difficult to search for even a decent one across stores. There are many budget friendly Dacs such as ESS series and CS43198 that must sacrifice accuracy and musicality by purposefully introducing noise in order to be manufactured for pennies. If you must buy these, I recommend one that allows you to set your filter to Non-oversampling; This slightly improves musicality but not by much, and certainly nowhere near as well as a well-constructed R2R.
>>107274816question was>he more expensive ones tend to sound better because they have cleaner electricity. Is this really true or not?and your answer was>It's true to a certain extentapple dongle is just a counter argument it excels in every metric you named and also cheap as fuck.there are cheap chinese dongles too.obviously some more expensive daps will provide features like EQ, volume buttons etc etc which are maybe is worth paying for some.
>>107274910literal misinformation
>>107257742yeah it’s all tuned with k-pop and anime music in mind.
>>107257742which tuning do you think is "tuned for female vocals"?
>>107274929is this true tho?
>>107274919*falls apart in 2 weeks*nice one macfags
>>107274927http://www.mother-of-tone.com/conversion.htm
>>107275116I mean mine is like 3 years old and still works fine. Something more robust is also something you are paying for not sound quality
>>107275123>Even if the noise is technically specified to be outside the human listening range, and also specified to be easily filtered away, any real-world implementation of any sigma-delta DAC will tell your ears a different story.>noise is outside of human hearing range>b-but I still can hear itmisinformation AND mental illness
>If there is any sonic signature at all, it is one which could best be described as "chocolate-like".guys... you really do not need to repeat something some random faggot wrote on the internet...
>>107275205>>107275227We get it, your hobby is looking at graphs and numbers, not listening to music. No need to doublepost.
>>107275258how do you know anything this delusional faggot wrote is even true?
the apple dongle has less staging and dynamics than say a Protocol Max
>>107275314proof?
>>107275329better components
>>107275420better in what way
I no longer wish to stick microdildos up my ear.
>>107275287He has built, developed, and sold players before in which he implements R2R technology, meaning he has to have SOME understanding of how it works. Also you didn't really give me a reason not to believe him.
Why's there like 2 warm IEMs in the entire budget segment? Nothing dark either.
>>107275420actually where's the proof there's a correlation between "better components" and "staging and dynamics" in the first place?
>>107275608trust your ears anon
>>107275562so he literally just has an incentive to fool you into buying his shit? very fucking reliableI'm not asking about his "understanding"/ I'm asking how do you know you are not getting duped?>Also you didn't really give me a reason not to believe him.do you believe anything you read on the internet? he shows no proof of anything.if r2r changes timbre it inevitably MUST change FR and it is easily measurable but somehow it is never the case with such pieces. Nothing is ever measured.>In science, the experiment decides if a theory is held valid or discarded.>This is of course difficult when a sound quality is subjectively assessed, as science only deals with instruments, as the experiment for being considered valid, must be repeated consistently.he has no understanding of science it seems.whole thing is just a huge "trust me bro"
>>107275642that's not an argument.
>>107275642https://www.engadget.com/2008-03-03-audiophiles-cant-tell-the-difference-between-monster-cable-and.html
>>107275702monster cable - leave humanity behind! do they still sell monster cable? from the makers of monster mass I hope
>>107275642https://archimago.blogspot.com/2024/05/part-i-high-end-dac-blind-listening.htmlhttps://youtu.be/7Sg1nYLmLCwhttps://youtu.be/LbcEgxm6RTU
>>107275584the foam costs more than the driver and the casing itself but not as much as the cable or the box
>>107275584nobody likes bloated shit it's that simple
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surfans f20 black friday deal 120 GB card model for 110 uncle samssurfans f20 64 giggums model for 104 uncle samswhich one do i buu\y i intend on rockboxing
>>10727595164gbs so you can have more money left to buy a decent memory card.
>>107272365audiophilia is a mentall illness, it's a subtype of delusional disorderaudiophiles will even pay more for dsd converted from pcm than for the original pcm, see "native"dsd.com
Why is it so impossible to find wireless open ear earbuds with lc3 low latency codec? Anyone know any?
>>107276234proof it isnt native DSD?
>>107276110okay ill purchase the cheaper one. for some reason i thought the card models were built in storage...does /iem/ have preference over f20 surfans or hifiwalker h2?
>>107276257they say so themselves
>>107273956Pro is not supposed to mean "better", but "professional", meaning viable for making an earning. In other words, a great tool to get the job done, emphasis on "job". It may very well be atrocious for casual use.That said, this still doesn't apply to KZ's "Pro" models.>>107274154Fully dressed Shiroi stimulates imagination, as you know how hot and lewd her body is under that coat.
>>107274910delta sigma has better techs
the JZ Kunten is really picky with what audio device (DAC) you are using to listen to it.It attaches to the sound of the audio device and the Kunten's audio quality/sound perception changes (for better or worse) when you change your DAP.What I'm saying is, some devices will make it sound high end (which it probably is), while other devices will make it sound like crap.
>>107272196no, but I'll look into it, thanks. >>107275474apple dongle doesn't have a physical volume control. by that metric alone it's sub-par.
>>107275920does anyone actually download these viruses?
>>107275770fucking kek
>>107276604>apple dongle doesn't have a physical volume control. by that metric alone it's sub-par.this has fuck all to do with "better components"I literally wrote that additional features is what you are paying for with more expensive DACs and not sound quality
>>107274154Only boxes I keep are the waifu ones
>>107276778I didn't say it equals sound quality. well, it does. without a volume control, the only way you can avoid a clipped signal is by pregain anyway, which is a pain in the ass for mobile, but pc is ez, because Peace. either way, pregain will always be a mandatory thing to keep an eye on, seeing how much you people finger fuck eq.
>>107276926>>107276926
>>107275795you are gay
>>107276619I downloaded all of them now I have 50GB of music that will take me 4 hours to listen to
>>107263015fvckingtrvthnvke
