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>News & Rumors
Pricing on ram or anything with memory is only going to worse, consume now/in the near future
RTX 50 Super, 2026 launch? 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"
AMD FSR "Redstone" Arrives December 10, Exclusive to Radeon RX 9000 Series

>Product Notice

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.

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still cant decide on a case. its been days. im tired

What's the most powerful drop-in upgrade for a 1660-Super? A 4060 8GB? It has a very similar TDP - slightly lower in fact. The 5060 8GB has a slightly higher TDP so I'd be tempted to also change the PSU, which kind of ruins the whole concept and adds extra cost. Ditto for the 4060 Ti which seems to be the exact same card as the regular 5060 just with a 16GB option.
The 3080 would be a no-brainer choice at the ~280 euro price point (same as a 4060 Ti 8GB or 5060), but it has a 320 (THREE HUNDRED AND TWENTY) WATT TEE DEE PE WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK? There's no way I'm running that on a 5 year old prebuilt's mystery meat PSU...

will I run into thermal throttling using a thermalright peerless assassin 140 with a 9800x3d? assume the case to be very well ventilated

>>107269333
my old 3080 used more power than my 4090 in most games. gooks (other than skynix) cant fab at all

the best drop in upgrade would be the 5060 IMO

>>107269320
buy fractal meshify 3

>>107269333
Why are you scrounging for a difference of 30W at stock? And only a 20W difference if compared to the 1660S. If your PSU has that little headroom I would suggest switching it for a new one regardless. Even a prebuilt no-name one doesn't have that extreme of a cost-cutting low headroom, they don't have an infinite number of PSU SKUs for every power output level to choose from.

>>107269320
what criteria

>>107269333
5070 is best for that
3080 has terrible perf per watt in comparison

>>107269377
Because I have literally 0 clue what the PSU is. For all I know it could be anywhere between 600W and 300W.

>>107269398
You can just, you know, look at it. There will be a label. If there is no label, I wouldn't want it to remain in my prebuilt any longer than necessary.

Ordered the 990 evo plus 2tb from amazon black friday yesterday for dec delivery for a new general/game drive. The deal already ended and other ssds have delivery for end of jan lol

Price was similar to before shit hit the fan the past few weeks

>>107269436
I could if I was there, but I'm at work, and it's not even my PC so I don't have it at home.

>>107269439
He's legitimately asking for a friend...

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do msi or gigabyte have a reputation for bad psus?
thinking of going with the gigabyte one

SSDs ain't got no DRAM anymore... billions must spend hundreds of dollars extra on storage just do it doesn't suck balls...

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collecting poverty tier monitors so that i can compare and make an informed decision on my poverty that will end up being wrong

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I'm Sorry, I won't post this again, just want to make sure it gets visibility in a thread that isn't dying in case people come in later or something

I don't see a mice/mouse or peripheral thread so I figure I should ask here

I have used the Razer Deathadder platform since they first came out when I was a kid so it's my preferred mouse style
I want to move away from Razer because of their ridiculous third party software and because I read that their quality has further dropped with the V3 and V4 Deathadders

Do any of you know of any mice with similar ergonomics and side buttons? I use the back side button for sprint and the ergonomics on this mouse are unmatched for my hands
Nothing I've felt in stores has felt as good as the Deathadder

>>107269483
I think 24" monitors are even more poverty tier if you're trying to poormaxx

>>107269483
Are these 1440p? You can't really go wrong with 1440p IPS screens around 200 bucks. There's plenty of review videos and articles online.

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Update: had to go back to 1.375V for my RAM to actually be stable. 1.11V SOC was enough for it to be OCCT stable at 1.35V but AIDA64 didn't like the SOC increased at all. 1.375V with 1.10V SOC is stable in both

>>107269489
nah im on a 24 1920x1200@60hz want to go to 27" 1440p +160hz
Its time

>>107269494
yeah, im just adding a few more and then decide, there seem to be plenty
wouldnt mind seeing a couple 32" to compare too, but those are rarer

>>107269483
Used U3014

I heard ddr5 runs hot, whats the recommended ram heatsinks to improve those temperatures?

>>107269500
Just make absolutely sure you don't buy a VA panel, they'll make you wanna kys with the ghosting and black smearing

>>107269484
Pro Intellimouse.

>>107269379
good thermals/airflow/cooling, screws/thumbscrews instead of snap in side panels, enough room for 4x sata drives preferably one of those being 3.5", 310mm GPU clearance.

Ive also been very torn on midplate intake fans. cases with mesh basements and bottom/midplate intake fans like the 207 and flux have great temps. after watching videos and looking around some people claim to get 20c difference from putting intake fans on the midplate, others show little to no difference. Im conflicted on how much I should prioritize that at this point

>>107269509
Unless you buy raw sticks (green PCB) I wouldn't worry. Doesn't most RAM come with a heatsink already on it to cover the raw PCB?

>>107269484
there are a metric fuckton of mice nowdays anon, entire YT channels and websites dedicated to testing and reviewing them (rocketjumpninja for instance). id do some googling around, youll likely find alot of mice that have the death adder ergonomics and can go from there.

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First decent offer i seen in amazon, i dont need an AIO but i have seen the nautilus mentioned some times.
Everything else i have seen have been 5-8% drops on shit

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remember that dark days are coming

>>107269521
This is actually interesting, will check it out
>>107269542
I have been but I thought maybe someone would have firsthand experience in a similar manner, so I figured I'd ask here too

>>107269466
Gigabyte, yes
MSI, no. Not yet at least
>>107269509
Ironically, ram heatsinks have been tested and shown to worsen temps. Just mount a 120mm fan to blow on your ram if it bothers you

>>107269551
That's kinda crazy

Just installed my 9060 XT 16GB today frens

>>107269551
These already make the cheapest 9060/70 on my country, can't imagine those dropping any lower

>>107269575
Enjoy your new shit anon

>>107269575
what you gonna play on it and at what resolution, anonner?

>>107269585
probably some more of Todd Howard's Skyrim at a crisp 1440p60

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>>107269559
>Gigabyte, yes
Damn, I'm gonna risk it

>>107269608
okay this actually made me kek what the hell

>>107269551
Bought my 5080 at MSRP a few days ago, beat the waiters.

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Im on a 3060TI and thinking on picking a 5060TI16gb and move on
Its 450 and i can sell mine for 150 or so.
I just want a more modern card to have some frame gen as needed even if the computing improvement isn't massive.
Its just that picking another xx60TI series suck, wish i could splurge for once.

>>107269608
nigga everyone uses Japanese capacitors

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>*checks watch*
yup, its buychadding time

>mainboard has no BT chip
any good bt adapters to connect a ps5 controller?

>>107269707
use a cable

>>107269709
i want bt

>>107269707
just buy some $10 piece of shit at your local shop

>>107269719
ugreen bt 6.0 usb adapter

>>107269685
Guess I'm buying an extra M.2 within the next week, I really need to hop on it

>>107269707
Just buy a USB BT dongle. My DualSense works fine on a very cheap BT4.2 dongle by TP-Link. If you spend a bit more you can get a fancier dongle/adapter that might work better, or not, I dunno. I run my headphones (Sony XM4) on the same dongle and they work fine as well.

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>>107269750
i can get this one for like 7 bucks

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>>107269759
i have that one
works well with my devices, I don't have a ps5 controller though

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>>107269759
For that price just give it a try. This is mine, I have two, and this one is for work because my work laptop's built in BT modem seemingly doesn't work.

>>107269780
cheers!

1 week anniversary with 5090 Suprim and the coil whine on desktop/web browsing and this is my finding
>GPU idles at 210 MHz, 800mV, spikes to 1600 - 1800 920mV when scrolling with noticeable coil whine on each movement of mouse/screen scrolling
>Change mouse polling rate did not help. Change refresh rate from 4k 240Hz to 4k 60Hz eliminate it but no fucking way I will use that refresh rate.
>Undervolting at 890 mV lowers the voltage when scrolling to 820 mV also make the it unnoticeable
>Surprisingly no noticeable coil whine when full load.
Thanks for reading my blog and let this be reminder for whoever want to splurge buying on 5090. I have to set after burner to automatically apply undervolting when window start up.

>>107269846
This is all solved by wearing headphones with proper isolation. I'll never understand people who seriously use their PC on speakers and lose half the nuance of the audio to your furniture absorbing it.

>>107269870
You wouldn't have headphone on during the chill web browsing though?

sorry headphone chuddies
my 20 dollar speakers will prevail

>>107269905
Like 50/50 for me because I just have YouTube open listening to music a lot of the time. If i'm just browsing or watching videos I do use my Pebbles yes.
My PC only makes weird noises when I'm slopping with Stable DIffusion and it's doing the 20 "tiled upscale" steps before the actual HiresFix activates. Like for each step (they take 2 seconds in total or something) it's like I can hear some physical component in my PC reacting. This doesn't happen when doing anything else including gaming, scrolling, videos, rendering, etc.

>he boughtered nvidia
amd has undervolt built-in the drivers ui :^)

>>107269353
no one? damn, air coolers are unpopular here

>>107269951
non fancy AIOs are dirt cheap nowaday.

>>107269971
my case is horizontal, I could mount a 280mm aio but I don't like doing that in that type of case, it has to be an air cooler.

>>107269984
It's PITA to remove on medium to small case. I went with AIO this time because of this.

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>>107270147
This goes back to normal in a week at most
Be more worried about traction alopecia

honestly, fuck whoever said gen5 drives do not make a noticeable difference in daily usage and gaming
I upgraded from 990 pro to 8100, and it's a very noticeable difference. Night and day in fact, if you are anal about these things.

no it's not

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i want more ram because mine doesnt work anymore but now its twice as expensive

its because i got the intel version of the ran instead of the AMD version i thibk

>>107270238
skill issue
i survived on an intel xmp ram kit set to 6000cl28 for a year on ryzen until i bought 64gb

What are people actually upgrading for? I've been wondering about upgrading since 2022 and each time I simply cannot find a reason to.

>>107270407
My old PC is a 10 year old midrange laptop that struggles with 5 year old games
I'm building an upper-midrange desktop with the hope that it will last for 10 more years

>>107270436
>struggles with 5 year old games
Which ones? I doubt they were worth playing in the first place

>>107270407
People still on Pascal or Turing (like I was) are upgrading so they can play newer 2023-2025 games. Said games generally require 8GB+ vram and DLSS upscaling, which the most popular cards of those generations like 1050 Ti, 1060 6GB and 1660Ti/Super don't support.
I was on a 1660 Super until recently and 2025 UE5 titles like Oblivion Remastered finally made me pull the trigger and build a whole new PC with a 5070.

>>107270446
They weren't, but still
The way I see it, consumer CPUs won't be going far beyond 5GHz for decades at least, and gamedevs still don't know how to multithread. A 9800x3d should be able to handle literally anything for a looong time

>>107270407
I have a gtx 1070, that's why I'm upgrading to a 9070 xt or 9070

>>107270407
My Southern Islands GPU is dying so I don't have much choice and might as well build a whole new PC since all other parts are equally as old.

Should I buy a GPU or a 4TB NVME ssd first, worrying about the coming price increases. Ssd prices will go way higher compared to a gpu, right?

>>107270489
>GPU with no DLSS support
>GPU with no DLSS support
this is not an upgrade nonny

>>107269532
just get a 216 or 217 bro it's good

should I be worried about the 12 pin connect on 9070 xt models if I plan to run the cards at max 250w and with a platinum tier atx 3.1 psu?

>>107270514
You are fucked either way and you are just flipping a coin
The RAM situation will fuck GPUs equally as bad as NANDs will fuck SSDs

>>107270514
gpus probably wont increase in price until early next year from all we know
in the end you can't predict these things, but with the info we have if you are worried about pricing and only pricing i would pick the drive first

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>>107270407
It's a hobby at this point.

DRAM thing is a complete hoax for the companies to steal more money from consumers to build HBM fabs, nvidia forced them to do it because it's afraid of the bubble popping, they are basically forcing us to pay for nvidia's AI bubble

>>107270450
>People still on Pascal or Turing (like I was) are upgrading so they can play newer 2023-2025 games
I'm on a 1080 Ti and I've felt absolutely no need to upgrade. Even that purchase I somewhat regret since there hasn't been a single good AAA game released since I bought it.

>>107270620
i wont give them any money so i'm doing my part right? i already upgraded a few months ago and my ram was dirt cheap

>>107270623
For me I feel like I'm taking crazy pills as I've just upgraded my GPU from an RTX 3070 to a 4080 (Being delivered) and I want to say I'm happy at 1440p most of the time, but I've really unironically noticed the VRAM issue to the point where I felt forced to do it now rather than any later.

>>107270654
shoulda sent your 3070 to a shop to upgrade it to 16gb desu

>>107270407
>>107270450
Im on fucking westmere(Socket 1366, x58). my PC will be old enough to vote next year. I waitfagged and payed my dues. funny enough this old xeon still does fine for alot of things. but modern vidyas are requiring AVX2, I dont even have AVX1 instructions. alot of vidyas are CPU bound as well. Some software I use stopped supporting this on newer versions, etc.
>since 2022
rookie numbers, try 2010

>>107270661
I'm not in the Amazon jungles or around the Taiwan straits

>>107269608
LMAOOOOOOOO

>>107270558
Yeah, tho I'm thinking since the ssd price is mostly from the NAND the prices will go up way more compared to the GPU where the ram is only a small part of the whole price.

>>107270575
Yeah, I think I'm going to go for the drive first since that's what is mostly limiting me nowdays. These things really are hard to predict.

>>107269652
Be quick if you do and "glad" you can
AMD and Nvidia are planning to kill the low end 16GB cards, there's no more profit in them

very time I compare the 9070 to the xt I think it's a much better deal

>>107270691
>kill the low end 16GB cards
and make them 24GB instead right? r-right?
who am I kidding, they'd rather discontinue the xx50 and xx60 lineup rather than make them usable in modern titles
gone are the days of the 1050Ti with 4GB VRAM being an overkill amount of memory for basically any game in 2016

Keep thinking to myself I'll hold off on the 9800X3D upgrade, seemingly the market does the opposite of whatever I think.
Convince me not to do it.

>buy overpriced ram couple days ago
>still seething about it
>check its price all week to see if it went up
>it didn't so i seethed harder
>check it today
>gone up by 30% over price I paid
>feel less angry

I wish it wasn't like this but the price not going up was actually making me mad

>>107270720
By next week you'll be laughing at those who didn't pull the trigger, anon

imagine thinking they'll stop making gpus, this is more stupid than the cripto panic
what you're going to get out of this DRAM psyop that the cartel hynix, samsung and micron is the rise of the chinese DRAM manufactures, they can do 6nm, DRAM uses 12nm, the government will mandate 3 different DRAM companies and the gooks will regret this crunch forever

>>107270586
I just picked up hobbies that don't have to compete with AI slop hardware for manufacturing

>>107270720
I had a random PCpartpicker tab for a 32gb 6000cl30 kit still open and stumbled on it, it was at almost $450. We got fucked, but rest assured plenty of other people got fucked way harder.

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my RAM might be kinda slow but at least it was 90 euro for 32GB DDR5 and now the cheapest kit is twice that

>>107270768
I just bough the same for 190€ and they're already at 230 in some stores

just dropping by to say well done on the OP pics being actual crusty guts
fuck that one stupid cat and fuck fishtank anime figurine with lights gay shit

>>107270803
buying a 2nd miku to put in my fishtank just for you anon

so the guy who bought the used motherboard and chinese 7800x3d couldn't boot, huh...

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>>107270806
>2

>>107270845
do you own all those mikus anon? I was half joking, I dont own any but want to put a noodle stopper ontop of my GPU. any suggestions ?

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>>107270849
https://myfigurecollection.net/item/1877244

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My 9070 XT arrived, any tips for overclocking/undervolting?

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HWINFO AND ROG LINKED UP

>>107270862
Furyu seems to be the only manufacture of the miku noodle stoppers I find, I think ill pick one up ty anon. I know theres alot of bootlegs of these floating around on aliexpress, ebay, etc. How bad are the bootlegs in terms of quality? Are they going to off gas some toxic cancer chemical inside my PC?

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>Instead of a post code display they add a massive rgb light screen
i hate motherboard makers so much

>>107270895
there's "people" putting toys in their pc cases in this very thread, it will only get worse, the RGB stupidity is never going away

>Ryzen 9 9900X
>Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI
Don't really care for ROG or RGB but lots of boards are unavailable anymore and this seems fairly good for the price. From what I understand I can just disable the Armoury Crate bloat in the BIOS, right?
>G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30
Already purchased this because of the market. It's also on the memory QVL of the board.
>Asus TUF GAMING OC GeForce RTX 5070 Ti

This retarded or fine? General use/work, two monitors, gaming (1440p) and dabbling in animation and AI image/video stuff.

>>107270916
b850 instead of b650
9070 xt instead of 5070 ti

>>107270881
>rapturelake
OH FUCK NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

>$500 for 32 GB of CL30 6000MHz ram
this can't be real

>>107270876
grats anon.
i increase power limit as far as it'll go
I try to find max stable core speed first, you can either bump it up little by little until you find instability then back off OR find a core speed other people are running and start there. either way stress test it to be 100% sure its stable.
Once you have a core frequency locked in, you can start editing the curve to hit that mhz at a lower mV. can use the same idea as before, either lower it a bit at a time until you hit instability and back off, or try starting off at a mV others are running.
the more you undervolt, the more you will have to back off the mhz to keep it stable. once you are happy with the undervolt and OC, you can boost the memory untill you hit preformance regressions, that will depend on the card so check what others are locking their memory in at to get an idea. for instance my current GPU can push +1000mhz on the memory, but preformance starts to degrade after +500mhz, so thats where i leave it.
gl hf

>>107270916
>>Ryzen 9 9900X
It's just always hard to recommend because it's 6-cores per ccd over being 8-cores per ccd but it's right for the price

>>107270934
Just avoid gskill lol
I saw a couple of $220-260 2x16gb 6000cl30 kits on newegg

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>>107270923
Arrow Lake actually nicotroon

>>107270895
my 16 year old x58 board has a postcode readout and modern boards dont start putting those on till you are spending $300+ fucking insane
>>107270909
3rd miku going in the tank now anon

>>107270948
You spelt errorlake wrong

>>107270876
2800mhz on the memory + fast timings
-30 power limit
-80 undervolt and test -> lower by 10 until it crashes

>>107270946
not from US so don't have newegg, gskill is only ~10% more expensive than the rest
corsair's 32GB 6000MHz CL30 is $460 as well

I needs my capacitors like my figs 100% Japanese

>>107270946
>>I saw a couple of $220-260 2x16gb 6000cl30 kits on newegg
REEEEEEE THAT'S NOT A NORMAL PRICE FOR THEM DON'T NORMALIZE IT FUCK THIS INDUSTRY

>>107270969
I'd buy it in an instant at that price rn lmao

>>107270969
Its the new normal
Get on with the times gramps

>>107270623
>there hasn't been a single good AAA game released since I bought it.
Maybe you just don't like games? Time to grow up then

>>107270969
Go to check price of the kit I bought for $230 to see how much its gone up the past week and feel better.
they are doing a $22 off promo on it making it cheaper now than when I bought it
:(

can't believe my untested 64gb cl30 ram kit went from $215 in summer to ~$650 last time i checked

>>107270996
64GB kit prices are just too insane, most have tripled

>>107271004
i just checked, mine quadrupled overnight. what the fuck

>>107270514
NVMe have potential to fly to the moon but they are relatively cheap, meaning you can afford to buy them later or use buy now pay later if they suddenly take off.
Meanwhile GPU prices are the best they have been in years you can actually pick and choose what you want and get it, I'd buy a GPU of your choice and then pick up NVMe later or just monitor prices and if they start going up too rapidly just use a buy now pay later solution.
All in all you want to get both like now but for different reasons

50% of the recent RAM price increase is due to morons panic buying

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>>107271030
morons in question

Just pulled the trigger on a 9070XT hellhound for AU$999 ($20 below US MSRP). I need the hellhound to fit in my case. Was afraid I wouldn't see a bargain like that before everything shoots back up again. Please tell me I didn't fuck myself before the real BF sale.
>inb4 AMD lol
I am tired of funding Jensens leather jacket fetish.

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>>107271030
It's literally PC brands and SIs hoarding too

>>107271041
I'm in the same situation but I haven't pulled the trigger yet, I don't see anyone doing BF black weeks only amazon, and I'm not buying it on amazon

Would overclocking my GDDR6x be worth the extra heat and noise?

>>107271063
go ahead It's not like nvidia allow any real overclocks anyway anymore

>>107270661
can probably upgrade to 24gb even if you get those 3gb chips

When was the last time we have ram shortage? I didn't remember we got this much media coverage there.

>>107271063
overclock doesn't add any heat, what adds heat is overvolting, overclock causes instability/crashes if it doesn't get extra voltage, that's how it works

So apparently the last windows update reduced performance in some games so nvidia released a hotfix driver yesterday however I'm not seeing it in the nvidia app. Do I need I uninstall the nvidia app and the latest driver to install another driver downloaded from their website? How does installing drivers without nvidia app work exactly. I don't want to install a new driver and the nvidia app doesn't update because I didn't download it through the app or something retarded like that.

>using nvidia
>using malware11
two mistakes in one sentence

>>107271041
If it was already discounted thats good, but from the horse's mouth
>>107269551

>>107271077
This thing is industry wide and has potential to fuck even phonefags, everyone is screaming and seething, from wafer manufacturers who are now being pulled in every direction to hardware assemblers who are ripping their hair out and scraping every dump trying to find more silicone because their stockpiles run out in like 2 months.
It is at the point when people look at mystery chinknesium RAM made from stolen gookium and call it a Savior.
AI niggers, Blackrock & Vanguard and anyone who had major stock in RAM companies are raking in, everyone else is fucked.

>>107271097
Amd are facing the same issue in windows 11. And I was seeing reduced performance in bf6 which doesn't work on Linux in the first place. So I don't see what alternative you're trying to propose.

>>107271040
don't forget the millions of people watching Gamer's Nexus recent video about RAM prices

>>107271112
Alternative:
Stop playing games with malware, and stop using "operating" systems with malware

>>107271112
windows 10 ltsc, what every sane person will be using until 2032

>>107271131
Windows 10 sucks. It's even worse than 11. 11 actually functions correctly 95% of the time. Try using HDR on win10, it's completely broken.

>>107271131
sorry meant to say Arch

>>107271121
That is nothing, literal droplets. Manufacturers buy x100 the amount consumers do. Also anyone who "watched a recent video" at this stage is already dead and is completely irrelevant to the shortage. They are just here to look at 350$+ RAM cry and sell their kidneys because they don't know any better.

>>107271137
back to >>>/v/ retard

>>107271077
2017-2019
i paid $400 for 32gb 3200cl16 ram back then

>>107271142
>That is nothing, literal droplets
if even just 1% of the viewers decide to panic buy because of the video, that's tens of thousands of people buying up all RAM on every website overnight
that's enough to buy up the entire stock for a while
in the long term, yes, that's a droplet in the sea
but currently, that's like 50% of the price increase
>hurr durr my RAM stick price quadrupled since yesterday wtf??
yeah it's not the manufacturers right now, moron

>>107271105
It was 9% discount from the day before. Seeing that makes me worried though.

>>107271142
there are scalpers about buying up every ram stick available to resell for a quick buck too

I'm gonna wait one more day to buy my gpu because it's friday, it's 1 week away from the black friday, discount should show up
bad things can't happen and never happened before, right? I'm gambling, it's decided, I'm adamant on my decision

>>107271040
>Asus
>morons
No lies detected

>>107271196
I beg to differ. They're very capable at scamming people with inferior products marketed as premium ROG products

>>107269483
One of these has gone down 30€ since i took that screenshot (the LG second from top)
I think amazon is trying to tell me something

>>107271181
Well they use to be the cheapest models already so i cant imagine them having massive discounts, and that might already be the discount.
But yeah i get waht you mean, since Sunday is a couple days away might as well have waited, it is what it is anon.

>>107271189
I ordered most of my stuff at a small discount in a panic already but I'll keep them unopened and hope for better deals on black Friday.

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Cmon nvidia just drop 100€ off the 5070TI just do it, across the board

I need my parts to arrive asap it's 17C in my house I need heating

>>107271173
I don't watch hardware guys, but you said recent right? well was it 10 days ago? because 10 days ago RAM was already reaching 200$+ and the whole price hike begun more than a month ago.
Retailer will rise the price when they can but they would much rather sell 10000 kits at 100 than 1000 at 400, more profits for them this way. Selling more expensive shit to fewer people is bad, the issue we are facing happens because they simply cant get enough as they have to fight for leftover stock with other retailers and in some cases even manufacturers which actually lowers retail margin and pushes the price up.
The only group who are winning now are RAM wafer manufacturers.

>>107271229
Down here XFX is the cheapest brand being ~$50 cheaper but their 9070XT is too chunky for my case. The sale ends friday midnight. Well at least I didn't pay $1299 like those who bought them when they first dropped and it should have good resale value when RDNA5 cards arrive. I guess if there's a further discount on sunday I could always contact them and say wtf guys.

>>107271278
He's literally retarded you're wasting time engaging with that moron

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YEET

>>107271328
check out higher gb RAM, 64gb+ kits have reached terminal velocity an are in the state of true vertical takeoff, the line literally pierces the heavens

>ordered RAM yesterday
>will take 2 weeks to arrive
>constantly worried they'll cancel my my order after they realize how much prices have increased

>>107271395
>"sorry we lost your package"
>"here is your 200 dorra refund"
incoming

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>SSD dops
>CPU drops
>Mobo drops
>PSU drops
>easily 200 saved
....everything is telling me I should buy right now
I thought none of this would drop for at least a week

>>107271278
>The only group who are winning now are RAM wafer manufacturers.
nah, scalpers will be the ones profiting by far the most, same as they did with GPUs

>>107271241
this is what I did. Already found a GPU $50 cheaper and got a return started for that after newegg refused to pricematch it, those cunts. Unless another item drops by $50 or so I wont bother though, I want to put this thing together eventually lol

Crazy to think GPUs are in an okay state right now compared to the great COVID shortage of the early 2020's and the great Crypto Mining boom of the mid-2010s, meanwhile fucking RAM is going batshit insane with the pricing...

>>107269257

https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_c2RBcxI1

$60 bucks for this am4 motherboard worth it?

>>107271459
they indiana jones swapped out a similar size and weight dick into our asses

STOP TRYING TO SELL ME RAM I BOUGHT RAM STOP SUGGESTING I ADD $300 OF MORE RAM YOU ASSHOLE JEW CUNT LEECHES

>>107270839
hm, I bought chinese motherboard and chinese 7700x
works perfectly fine, though I did it in 2022.

i intend on building smol pc what is the case and components i should look at and look to avoid also i wanna run 1440p with it

>>107271459
wow it's almost like it's actually mass panic buying causing the already low supply to get exponentially worse!
that's also what caused the "BOOMs" you mentioned and the current one
just wait it out, prices won't fall back to the old levels, but they will fall once retards are done panicking

>>107271495
>i intend on building smol pc
stop intending and don't do it.

>>107271496
I remember how about 7 months back nand producers complained how shit the market was for them, I think kloxia or someone even cut some factories. hmmmm

>>107271498
why not

>>107271495
Don't go smaller than matx. Ideally don't go small at all, get a midtower.

>>107271495
determine just how smol you really want to go. i built a mini-itx in a fractal terra, turned out great. though you will pay more for the tiny PSU, possibly more for the mobo, the mobo will be far more limited, there will be plenty of sacrifices you need to make sure its all worth it

>>107271517
i want something i can bring on airplane

>>107271527
Traveling is the one valid excuse you can make for buying a Laptop over a Desktop tbhdesu.

>>107271546
price wise will be about the same too I think

>>107271527
>>107271546
this tbqh. get a steamdeck, a switch, a $40 emulator handheld, a laptop. unless you travel 24/7 making a desktop for travel sounds terrible, youll need to lug a monitor and shit around too

>>107271546
if i wanted to buy a laptop id push a fat butt plug down my ass with fox tail

>>107271558
uwu

>>107271558
that's what firefox users do daily just to avoid having to touch chromium, pray for their souls

>>107269483
>>107271213
Meh i picked it
143€ i dont think i will find any much better ones at those prices i assume they are all the same shit
Good bye 1920x1200

https://www.amazon.es/dp/B0CZ3PS82R?th=1

>>107271577
i use firefox since 1.5 ( it was not even called firefox ) and somehow im not a faggot

>>107271495
What >>107271516 and >>107271517 said. I went with a Lian Li Dan A3 and lucked out with finding bargains to fill it (and did it last year).

>>107271577
I've been using firefox for over 10 years and I can confirm I'm massively gay and wear buttplugs daily

>>107271527
I'll never get this.
What exactly do you do? Do you need to travel a lot up and down on planes? So much that a portable ITX build makes sense?

>>107271558
you do know micro builds are way more gay than a decent laptop with dGPU?

my case was classified as a "small item" because I ordered from a store that sells fridges and 100" TVs lol

>>107271609
a PC build inside a minifridge sounds kinda based, just gotta modify it for airflor and make mount points for the MOBO, then run the display/usb cables out the back somehow
my uncle's workstation is literally a bunch of components lying around in a drawer and my dad's "PC" at one point was a laptop mobo bolted onto a wooden plank

>>107271577
ive always used firefox and always loved traps so maybe this checks out

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>>107271617 (me)
Pic related. It was taped not bolted I guess.

there was a power outage and now my pc is giving me an overcharge usb warning and is auto shutting down. sometimes i can get it to run if i leave it off for long enough, but if i restart or shutdown the computer again it gets the same issue again. does anyone have an idea what needs replacing?

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>>107271395
same boat. bough ram almost a week ago and the arrival date and status haven't budged since. i can't even buy more before it gets even worse in case this order isn't actually buggered. tfw tried to save 20 bucks by getting ram that wasn't next day/2 day delivery

>>107271527
they will rape your ass if you try to bring in a nameless box on the board, get yourself a laptop and save yourself the troubles

>>107271683
i have stickers of candydoll idols ready to stamp all over it

>>107271395
This is why buying any on ebay now is completely worthless

>>107271645
>tfw tried to save 20 bucks by getting ram that wasn't next day/2 day delivery
same boat. store has ghosted and jacked up its price.

So... is it actually even possible to buy RAM? Will ANYONE ship you the RAM at the listed price if they KNOW that they'll be bumping it up by 20% tomorrow? Like, why would they, if they can just keep the RAM until prices plateau?
Selling today means being at a loss at the end of the month.

>>107271694
you are overestimating the IQ levels of the TSA goblins, stickers won't save your butthole from an extended check session.
>GUUUU THIS LOOKS WEEEIRD
>UUUUUHNFF WHAAAAAAT?
>SHOUVIEE ITE INE ZE XRAY
>EWUUUUGHH ITS WEEEIRD
>SPREAD YOUR LEGS AND BEND OVER
I'm telling you, get a laptop unless you actually want to be assraped for 4 hours each time you want to board, more so and may god forgive me for this, get a fucking mac if you want zero issues with the creatures.

>>107271709
I bought a bunch of stuff on the same order
I hope they won't risk losing a 400€ purchase to hike 50€ on RAM, because if they fuck with me I sure as hell am not buying anything at all from that store

>>107271709
newegg is selling the same 32gb 6000cl30 kit I bought for $230 days ago for like $200 rn. mine already arrived

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On Monday this 48GB kit was £219 and I saw it end Monday at £299, yesterday £356 and now today

At what point does it switch from a stock shortage to just greed from the store?

I keep wanting to pull the trigger but something is NAGGING me to say no, I've already pulled the trigger on a GPU and felt no worries, with this I don't know what's nagging me.
Maybe it's the £226 7800X3D from China...
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/BhWBmC
Cooler has already been bought btw.

>>107271794
I saw a SINGULAR 4800MT CL40 64GB SO-DIMM (laptop) stick, the generic green PCB type just Corsair branded, for A THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED (1500) EUROS earlier what the ACTUAL FUCK

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>>107271795
You really shouldn't wait on the ram, other stores are listing that kit at £300

Is going from 12400F -> 14600K worth it for $150? 1440p gaming, and I do enjoy a handful of CPU-heavy titles.

>>107271819
Just the sum total is nagging me that I should save a pretty penny somewhere, but fuck it.

>>107271816
high density 64gb udimm sticks are very new and would be expensive regardless of the price hike

>>107271824
$150 net? or is that including selling the former CPU?

>>107271736
which mac has coolers is cheap second hand, instructions not clear on their page, id get m2 or 3 used, with cooler, air i guess? pro expensive sell it later im done with it

>>107271824
14700K would be the jumping point and make it worth it for CPU heavy titles. Otherwise you're just paying for ecores at least pay for extra P cores.

>>107271794
Its rarely about greed with long term retailers, they have to restock and they have to pay more for restock as there are more retailers competing for the same RAM stick. Naturally they rise prices when the demand goes up but not by this much.
Right now we are already deep in scalper market and its basically over for the regular Joe.

got the alienware monitor 2527dm on amazon. i have a tiny like spekc of dust size issue with one of the pixels and some little bit of backlightt bleed in the bottom left corner. think i should just get amazon to replace it or is this type of thing common with monitors? i paid 200 do i kinda want a product with no defects but something tells me ill just get a monitor with worse qc issues if i replace it

>>107271861
do the estrogen cores even do anything?

>>107271899
it helps speed up shader compilation and accelerates cinebench really well

>>107271910
If they're genuinely useful why is AMD not doing them?

>>107268951
Yeah, the right side is deep and it makes cable management very easy. The only annoying thing I found is you'll probably want an extension for your GPU power cable, since it's a top-mounted PSU.

I think the torrent may not be there because it's hard to find. Not sure if that's low supply or not but I can't imagine demand is that crazy for a 4 year old case.

>>107271899
in gaming? Not really beyond some shader compilation, and Alder/Raptor lakes ecores are a lot less powerful than Arrow Lake's outside of it. The jump from 6 to 8 p-cores is worth it though.

>>107271854
I have made a conscious effort to never touche mac in my entire life and never will so not going to be of much help here. I simply know that if you MUST have a PC on hand when you are flying around the country mac is the best solution to avoid dealing with the TSA goblins, naturally any laptop will suffice.

>>107271916
zen cores arent stupidly bloated in size like intel's p-cores to necessitate e-cope for desktops and amd does do heterogeneous cores in their mobile lineup

Fuck it I bought

>>107271794
>At what point does it switch from a stock shortage to just greed from the store?
at none, because you retards are spreading the panic, which causes everyone to buy out every last RAM stick on the internet and it can't be resupplied fast enough because of AI overlords
I mean, what do you expect retail to do? sell you a stick at a normal price, when suddenly they have 10 of them in stock and there are 5000 fomo retards and 500 scalpers who want to buy it?

>>107271973
Good. Waitfags are NGMI

>>107271916
because normal amd cores are more efficient than e cores

>>107271973
cry now laugh later
Waitfags are getting fucked
I only got GPU left
I hope that >>107269551 isn't lying waiting until the 23rd better not screw me

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>>107269551
said this 2 weeks ago too

>>107271840
Strsight up. The 14600K is $150 on amazon.

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>>107269551
>>107272007
>SIKE

>>107272015
Oh yeah, no reason not to, then sell your current CPU, why not.

>>107271994
i mean thats one of their sales rep people its just two of them posting on the subreddit with a random person posting about a tech issue now and then
they have to know what they are talking about

>i'm gonna wait, maybe for brack fryday deals
>everything i wanted was cheaper in september/october, especially memory

why do i never learn... i'm such a retard

>>107271994
>I only got GPU left
Same boat here. Bought my RAM a week ago, then hammered through everything else today looking to recoup the memory assblasting with some discounts.

Could really use a good deal on the GPU.

Would honestly be buying now anyway if it weren't for some awkward delivery timings.

Incidentally:

MAKE SURE YOU DOUBLE CHECK WHEN PARTS WILL DELIVER!

Cheeky fucks at amazon telling me they have stock, but that it won't arrive till January. Almost got me.

>>107272007
>& youre in the states
POWERCOLOR I WILL PURCHASE ONE OF YOUR CARDS IN EUROPE GIVE US DISCOUNTS TOO

i'd forgotten how malware-esque the windows 11 installer is about shamelessly making you click past all sorts of horseshit, and also how shitty the default out of the box experience is. like it's actually amazing how bad it is

>>107272050
>MAKE SURE YOU DOUBLE CHECK WHEN PARTS WILL DELIVER!
happened to me once with a friends pc, ended up eating a 40€ price increase in a gpu for it to be delivered at the time
i always check now, amazon used to be so simple, now you have to check everywhere

>>107271973
I really don't think you'll regret it. RAM pricing is going to get worse before it gets better.

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>>107271973
depends on what you bought
RAM? took a +150-200 bullet, it hurts but now you have it and can look at next price doubling with a hiccup and a smile.
NVMe? Good for you, you made it before any serious price hike and got to choose the best shit.
GPU? I hope you managed to squeeze that extra sweet deal on top of already great prices, enjoy your new shit!
CPU? Did you get a bundle mobo discount? regardless prices are pretty good, enjoy your new shit
HDD? fuck AI niggers and fuck server niggers and fuck them all to death, regardless, got a good deal on the case?

>>107272058
im sure there are others but
>https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat
made night and day difference for me

>>107272069
Bought a RTX 4080 for £599
Bought a Ryzen 9800X3D, Mobo and RAM for £850

>>107272050
>it won't arrive till January. Almost got me.
Almost got me too with a 990 Pro ridiculous. Any decent deal is saying we'll ship it 1 week before Christmas or in 2026 it's mad

>aliexpress cpu sales, impulse buy 7800x3d for cheap
>the dram prices are already 100% up from historic lows at the time
>local store puts out 6000mhz 32gb cl36 for 120€ for whatever reason when they could easily ask 50% more
>well, Guess im going with that then

in the end everything worked out fine, the cpu works and I dont have to think about buying dram until 2030

>>107272107
Yeah only regret I have about pulling the trigger is I was tempted by that £225 7800X3D, way better value for money.

>>107272050
p sure MSI is still doing their CPU bundle deal. add on a 9800x3d for only $400

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>>107272142
Nta but picrel just checked and it still works.
Had i been in the states i would have gotten one for sure

>>107272092
consultations you can rest and watch the fire from the side, do you have an NVMe or are you planing to buy one? if so the sooner you do it the better

I have finally bought everything but the case. think ima just grab a frame 4000D and call it a day, fuck it

>>107270407
I'm not, I just finally got enough dough to get out of the console hellhole, in time for xbox collapse lmao (have a series S I bought for 140 yuros)

>>107272162
Already have a Gen3 1TB, I know I should get a faster bigger drive, but I have no need for it to be honest.
I do feel like a consooomer goy, but I had the opportunity of buying all of this for like £90 cheaper waiting raised the prices even more.
Alas.

>>107270489
You should go straight for the XT version anon san

>>107272161
yeah i bought the 9800x3d with the AIO bundle from newegg thinking that would be the best deal id see. ordered an MSI board, ram, etc before I found that deal. I could return my mobo, CPU+free AIO, reorder it all, order an air cooler, etc but in the end id only save like $35. Ill just run the AIO until the pump dies and buy an aircooler then

>>107270407
desu my 5600x and 3080 were choking in my late game satisfactory save

Dropping $1200 CAD on four 4TB 990 EVO Plus.
If I'm ever going to make a SSD NAS, I guess now is the time before things get too crazy.

>>107272201
anon thats half the budget of my entire build, insane

Serious question. Am I fucked? I was opting to get a new pc next year. Around April it's so. Now I see the prices are sky high. It's this it? These are prices moving forward?

>>107272221
No, they're only the beginning

>>107272221
news articles are spreading crazy FUD about the memory shortage. sk hynix booked through 2026. ram prices likely going to stay fucked, GPUs are supposed to raise in price and possibly lower end cards discontinued. anything that has memory involved likely to be fucky moving forward IMO. besides ram, prices are good right now

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>>107270407
Even my cheap ass can see this event horizon. This'll be the last chance to get a high vram card at a decent price for years. I can't see any reason why they'd keep making 16GB 9060 XT/16GB 5060 TI in this climate.

>>107272221
>Am I fucked?
Yes
Ever since the covid lockdowns pc component prices have never been fair. This is just a second iteration of price gouging. Buy what you NEED and CAN now.

>>107272142
I'm a britbong. And I already bought my CPU, it's GPUs I'm still looking at.

I did get a 9800x3d as it happens. Paid for £395 for it.

So i just finished my build yesterday and after multiple times trying to install the graphics driver it always crashes midway thru installation. What could be the cause of this? Im stressing over whether i might have damaged the pcb as ive been embarrassingly clumsy installing the motherboard to the case(first build please be kind)

>>107272184
>but I have no need for it to be honest.
for now. I wouldn't delay it too much, there is a good chance NVMe will fly even higher than RAM. Just look at the prices from time to time and if they start climbing snatch yourself a 2tb and be set for the rest of the decade.

>>107269257
Got a 9070XT (Sapphire Pulse), installed it on an MSI B650 S Wifi, running Linux Mint.
Once every two weeks or so I might get a white light on the MOBO signaling no GPU was found, it goes away after rebooting the PC, but it still bugs me for I don not know the reason behind it. Drivers have been updated from the official site,
I'm also dual booting Windows on a separate drive so that should be a non issue, right?

after hearing so many conflicting reports on bottom intake fans and GPU temps, im tempted to just spend the $30 on some reverse blade fans and test it myself..

>>107272245
What drivers are you trying to install and for what hardware? What OS are you on? Give us actual information if you want help mongo

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>>107272221
>It's this it? These are prices moving forward?
for the forseeable future? Yes
Those charts are out of date the ram and ssd prices have also both gone way up

APRIL IS TOO LATE
2026 IS TOO LATE
BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW

IT'S TOO LATE TO NOT GET FUCKED ON RAM

YOU MISSED THAT BOAT

BUT OTHER COMPONENTS STILL HAVE A CHANCE

BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW BUILD NOW

>>107272272
To be honest, all I play is map game sloppa. Despite the specs I've bought, with some VR slop too there really isn't too much that's going to rape my storage

>>107272221
>These are prices moving forward?
roru, rumao you haven't seen shit yet, this is just gentle foreplay to the grand expansion of consumer butthole to the size of AI's footwear of choice. Currently we are all collectively praying to chyina to come and save us from this hell.

>>107272277
Yes im retard sorry. Im trying to install intel graphics driver(b580) and im running windows 11

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just realized I forgot to delete a place holder item on pcpartpicker that was $100. besides the ram price, feel good about this.

>>107272314
Does it give you an error code or just hard crash and restart? First thing I would try is an older version of the drivers that's known to be stable.

>>107272301
The thing here is to look at the tribulations that await us in the very close future. Its just right now NVMes are still cheap and you can just buy one. Even having a spare 1tb will add a lot of safety redundancy to the build and they are piss cheap. Like it is the last weakness of you build and it is not an expensive one, cover it and you are actually set for the decade. As I said no need to rush on it, just keep one eye on the prices.

LOL you niggers told me fractal north wasn't gonna go on sale, saved $50 by waiting

>>107272305
If this is serious, why China?

>>107272377
Just hard crash then it goes into a restart loop. I had to restore windows a couple times just to try again and fail

>>107272378
I'll be honest Anon, I already feel like I've overspent on myself, if I feel the burn I'll buy it when I need it.

>>107272395
coz nobody else on this damn rock makes this shit on the scale we need, either chyina saves us or 1.5k ram sticks

>>107272416
can't fault you approach and regardless I do think that you have already won, enjoy your shit.

Hello. I'm the anon from >>107262090. I've improved upon my PC build. Could you rate it?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pDZmYd
The case is Chieftec Pro mini AZ-01B-OP. pcpartpicker didn't have it.

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>>107272447
makes me want to scream/10

>>107272460
Can't you get a 6000 at least?

I finally have everything ordered, Im planning on keeping everything in the boxes for a few days to see if any crazy price adjustments happen. how do fellow returnmaxx anons track this sort of thing? Just the check PCpartpicker list?

>>107272460
anon is on Poland, limited choices and just uses pcpp as a placeholder

>buying full size ATX cases in current year
ISHYGDDT

Any noticeable differences in performance between GIGABYTE B850 EAGLE WIFI6E and GIGABYTE B850 AORUS ELITE WIFI7? my ram is going to be Patriot Viper Venom 32 GB KIT DDR5 6000 MHz CL30 with Ryzen 5 9600X+9070xt

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Talk me out of buying three of these

>>107272483
Why wouldn't you? Are your a storagelet? A airflowlet?

>>107272495
Why would you buy 3? Just get 1 and 2 cheaper monitors.

>>107272488
You don't buy a motherboard for performance unless you're running a really high end system. Look at the features and I/O and decide what you need.

>>107272488
Both have pcie gen 5 x16 and a gen 5 nvme slot so no there are no performance differences outside of vrm. For a 9600x it hardly matters buy the one with the features you need. Also wifi 7 doesn't work on windows 10 if you weren't aware.

>>107272508
I want 27" 1440p OLED monitors and the options I'm seeing with lower refresh rates are only like $100 cheaper

>>107272495
id like to get a new 1440p monitor, im on a 1080p TN panel right now. is this the best case scenario on price for a nice OLED?

>>107272515
>>107272522
I see, thanks

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>>107272447
The case only brings an exhaust fan (as far as i can see) you will need to pick some extra fans for intake according to picrel
Ram is better than what you posted last time, its not great but better, ram is such a shitshow right now.
Unsure about a non even semi modular psu on a mATX case, but thats not my forte.
Shit looks ok anon, it is what it is.
This thread is dying post it again on the next thread, mention that the build is a placeholder and that you are limited to local retailers blabla, hopefully some other anons can comment on it.

>>107272501
Skill issue. My 26L A3 stays as cool as a tower case and has 3 2.5in mounts if you're horny for data hoarding.

>>107272525
From what I've seen, yes.

>>107272476
I think its too late to be picky, you get what is cheap in your region and be happy if you got more than 16gbs of it

>>107272542
I use my PC for alot of stuff that is static. my task bar is autohidden and I use a screensaver already, how burnt in and fucked is it going to get ?

>>107272551
Man, I should have bought 64 gigs instead of 32 when I ordered everything for my rig in September

>>107272283
You can get good deals on pretty much everything that is not RAM & HDDs, NVMes are still within the sane price range. With GPUs being cheaper than usual and CPUs going on sale the time to build is now and may Gabecube have mercy on your soul if you miss it.

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guys i bought everything

So does this mean there is no point now for waiting on the 50 series super that will be coming out early next year?

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>>107272495
biggest downside of aoc is the 16 hour mandatory pixel refresh
which depending on how long time you use your monitor, how buggy the firmware hour counter is, if it runs pixel refreshes correctly during sleep idle will be
if they allowed 100% disabling of forced mandatory refreshes and disabling annoying things like pixel shift I would 100% recommend anything
but as it is you get cucked
we should not give manufacturers any positive feedback with shit like this that exist only to save their asses
but I don't care, I will buy something else that does not behave like this since I can't influence anything
mandatory pixel refresh is by far the most cucked thing ever, and it's completely pointless and not needed
in short, totally garbage retarded for no reason

>>107269483
if that's hte gs85q it easily wins with nanoips panel and people say it's good in blb and quality overall
if it's the gs75q idk srgb shit no nanoips

>>107272598
you called me stupid and were arguing me on pcbg when I shilled for 64gb
you told me 32gb is more than enough
now look at you people fighting for scraps and buying 4800mhz to cope
YGWYFD

>>107272660
All nand flash and memory is affected. The 50 super fresh will be using 3gb memory chips. If nvidia even releases them in 2026 good luck buying one at msrp.

>>107272663
Couldn't you just have it so the refreshes while you're sleeping?

>>107272657
so you are the new world government? kill AI niggers, open chyna's markets and tell them to sell RAM at 1$ per GB. I want scalpers to scalp themselves.
>>107272660
>waiting
don't

>>107272660
supers were never coming out early next year, we have been saying that for awhile before this ram bullshit
we have said it time and time again that they might have come late summoer or fall, we only have had rumours not even real leaks
now with this ram bullshit forget about them

Are there new monitors that came out that are at least good?
I realty can't think using expensive ones like oled that I know will have issues later on for me. 27 inches and at least 144hz at a decent price.

>>107272663
>if it's the gs75q idk srgb shit no nanoips
its the 75, it was 144€ i have to assume they make those by scrapping metal from discarded aids infested syringes
But im on 1920x1200, as long as its nto a rock is a big upgrade

>>107272710
QHD 300hz IPS monitors are starting to flood the market. Going forward they will probably be the standard outside of OLED.

>>107272676
not if the counter is bugged (runs non stop) (does not reset to 0 during refresh) (does not correctly trigger during sleep/idle) & more
not if you run your monitor more than 16h
not if you run your monitor for a time, not triggering the refresh and need to turn it on for more prolonged time

this is a fake manufactured limit that does not need to exist
just because samsung and lg panel somewhere specified that a pixel refresh is good to do every 16 hours or something, the manufacturers interpreted this as a force one ever 16h, why? Because the engineers are retarded
how do I know this? they already backtracked and updated it to 24hours due to backlash (MSI), Lenovo also has 24 hour counter, several manufacturers don't have any behavior like this, TVs dont behave like this, laptops dont, phones dont

AOC, Philips, MSI without firmware update, HP/Omen are a few ones who have 16hour mandatory refreshes

Asus, Samsung, LG, Alienware, Gigabyte (big maybe) are a few that have no mandatory refreshes (can't confirm 100%)

>>107272714
srgb and no wide gamut kinda bad to have
unless you prefer desaturated "accurate" colors and no range to increase saturation in games

>>107271495
the space has probably changed in the 5 years since i bothered to read up on sff cases and do the build, but my sister had a requirement for something portable she could take on a plane and I ended up using the extremely popular at the time nr200 which was really great actually. I found the size to be perfect even though it's on the larger side of sff cases, it's about as small as it gets without having to start making too many concessions in components and cost for the size. Plus it looks like it's only 60 bucks on amazon atm, but then again it's older now so the front io is kind of outdated by modern standards so idk, maybe they've released an updated version

>>107272535
Maybe it's as good as a bad tower case. I don't see why most people would want a dinky little case
>You have to typically pay up for SFX psu
>You have to worry about the height of your air cooler
>You have to worry about where you can mount your AIO and typically sacrifice case fans for it.
>Can't get any PCI expansion if you have a dedicated gpu
>Cant mount as many drives
If you're limited on space or just like how they look, I get it. But for a desktop, I'll always build with ATX cases. Too many downsides and annoyances to go for mATX or ITX.

>>107272663
>you told me 32gb is more than enough
eh, i shilled 64gb a fair bit too and nobody objected

reminder if you are on nvidia 3000 or 4000 series and you're "upgrading" because you think you need +10 fps because your favorite jewtuber told you so you are part of the problem and deserve the same things the DRAM cartel deserves.

>>107272725
I appreciate how informative you're being but it sounds like you're too angry to really give a fair opinion on how much of a problem it is. Using your monitor for more than 16hrs a day seems unusual

I still don't understand what's a good b850 mobo. They keep adding letters and some are fucking expensive for no reason. All I know is to not go for Asrock.

>>107272801
im fine keeping 3080 until 6090 arrives but people who upgraded def have a better experience with better rt, sufficient vram, frame gen

>>107272816
buy one that looks visually pleasing, isnt asrock and reviewers dont say its terrible somehow and its affordable obviously
theres basically no point to buy a b850 that costs 50€ more than another b850. You're not going to game harder on it.

>>107272801
Dude im on a 3060TI i think people on 8vram are allowed to look for upgrades

>>107272816
anything near the top quartile of the vrm temps should be fine https://youtu.be/CFqd7lnXlIk?t=1583

Good chink mobo?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pORwN55phZw

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005010120336668.html

>>107272802
>but it sounds like you're too angry to really give a fair opinion on how much of a problem it is
having your monitor shut off temporarily for 6-8minutes at a time because it deemed you need to redeem a refresh is unhinged behavior and should not be a thing in a consumer product and it makes it even worse that this thing is entirely made up
manufacturers need to be held accountable for their shitty product and all engineers responsible need to jump from the highest building ASAP so we get rid of their influence on product
and this problem is made more annoying because you actually can just spend more and join the Republic and buy Ayysus for example and escape this horrendous behavior, when you have perfectly functional "budget" alternatives with the same panel except you get cancerous firmware instead that is bad, some times alot more, all because they put in bad firmware forcing your hand to pay twice as much for the same panel, furthering leading to me being even more upset about the thing
so yes it's pretty annoying
so in short it all boils down to being poor is a problem since it can just be circumvented in buying other product, which is kinda shitty
I wish it was not like this, but it is

>Using your monitor for more than 16hrs a day seems unusual
you did not listen to anything I said, it's not just 16 hour continuous use, it's the counter being bugged/not pixel refresh triggering during sleep, which means you will end up running into the refresh more often than not
but yea I would say it can either be annoying or not annoying at all depending on how you use it
since I expect my display to behave like an lcd aka I want to use it how ever I want, it's literally a deal breaker
to the point of paying twice as much for the same panel just to avoid this thing is becoming worth it
it is that cancerous

but up 2 you, if you wanna endorse this or not