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>News & Rumors
Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027
RTX 50 Super, 2026 launch? 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super. Potentially cancelled, likely q3 if still being released
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"
AMD FSR "Redstone" Arrives December 10, Exclusive to Radeon RX 9000 Series

>Product Notice

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.

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https://mobomaps.com/
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>>107284014

I fucking hate AI and data centers. We should be legally allowed to firebomb local data centers.

>go onto 5090 thread on overclocking forum
>40 pages of people collectively seething that their astral 5090s can't accept the matrix 800W bios like MSRP ventus' and PNYs can
>its literally Asus' fault that they can't burn their 12 pin connectors and they should be boycotted
It's a big world out there with all kinds of people

>>107289790
Been wanting to bulid a pc for the longest time but maybe steam gabecube can come in clutch?

>>107289886
it's more expensive and slower than whatever you can come up with on your own
it's a luxury compute cube for the living room, not a budget pc

>>107289896
>it's more expensive and slower than whatever you can come up with on your own
>it's a luxury compute cube for the living room, not a budget pc
We don't even know pricing

>>107289827
>people buying multiple 5090 to see which one gets the highest steel nomad
>flashing 800w bios and praying they get a good silicon lottery for a few hundred more steel nomad score
>average joe comes in and what settings his massive OC should be so it doesn't crash on the latest slop game
kek peak mental illness right up there with speed running

>>107289899
Yes we do.

>>107289905
It's probably $700, what do (You) think think it is?

>>107289913
same ballpark. pricing is irrelevant, I just hope it isn't too cheap. it is a fashion decor item at the end of the day.

>>107289903
pcbg seems so tame and socially adapted compared to what's on there kek

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>>107289771

You would be surprised what an old and power-hungry workstation board can do performance wise.

>getting ready to retire pic related - 3 x16 slots, all slots have full lanes with 2 CPUs (one single PCIe x1 slot is connected to the chipset).
>only ~30 watts at idle for each CPU!
>the lights in my room dim when I turn it on
>kek

>>107290029
all that only to get outperformed by a $50 ryzen 5 5500

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>>107290059
in single-core performance absolutely yes
multi-core is another story

>replacing it with a BD790i X3D itx build soon
>i expect it will whip this antiques ass pretty good

>>107290093
it seems you posted the wrong image

So obviously the data center orders has caused RAM prices to skyrocket, and it's also going to raise SSD prices too. Is that only for NVME SSDs or does it affect all SSDs including SATA ones?

Also what about internal HDDs, will those prices go up?

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>>107290099
kek i don't have an image for the single-core score but it's pretty low.

Where it shines is in multi-core - not for /gayming/ but for /computing/ - no budget build is going to come close

>all of it useless as a shitposting box, with 128GB of RAM, 36 cores (72 threads with HT on), and 90mb of L3 cache it will make a nice server for someone who does not care about it's thirst for amperes

I didnt know my RX580 could overclock to 1400 mhz but it does it at 1150v instead of 1100v like everyone else

>>107290139
it's 8 years old, silicon has degraded

>>107290143
or maybe it was always like that

>silicon lottery and whatnot

>>107290150
or you have a crappy power supply with too much ripple
anything can cause it

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>>107290143
anon i-i anon i bought it a few months ago... new...

>>107290166
just use it until it dies

>and have some keks while you're at it

>>107290135
ah it's a broadwell system not an old sandy bridge like I thought
I wonder how many Zen 3 cores it takes to match the multi core number crunching capability

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I have 2 8gb sticks of samsung b die which I no longer need. Should I sell them yet, or will they actually go up in value? Also have an old EVGA thickboy 2070 super - I should just sell it right? It's not going to be a collector's item or anything? Seems the best I'd get is around $100 which is a shame because it really is a beast for a 2070s.

>>107290237
the 2070 super should net you like $150

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>>107290182
idk about that, not so familiar with the AMD family and its iterations.

originally i considered (and budgeted for) another workstation but realized it was just because i was used to having workstation class hardware. once i got past that hangup i decided to go low-power so i went for the BD790i X3D and i will re-use my 4070 Super in it.

>sort of like building a laptop into a little box, kek

even getting screwed on RAM it's less that building up a "new" used workstation and that left room in the budget for a new pair of monitors (i get one, the wife gets the other)

Can I reasonably expect to get any money for my GTX 1080, or should I just make it a mantle piece?

>>107290417
>GTX 1080
20-30 Ameribucks at most

>donate it to your local thrift store

>>107290429
That's what people pay for 3GB 1060s and 1050tis.

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>>107290417
go on ebay, click advanced next to search, check off "sold items"

>5700x3d is basically extinct
fuck man

>>107290417
You'd be able to sell it for at least 50 bucks

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What's a website I can use for good prebuilts deals? Is Amazon good enough?

How much will the 5070s 12gb vram fuck me over if I want to do AI stuff?

I'm frustrated because it's basically perfect performance for my relatively shit CPU (5700x) but I also want to be able to make clips of cats doing martial arts without wrestling with my ram usage the whole time.

I can't afford a 5070ti because I'm too poor and brown. However I don't really want to drop down to a 5060ti 16gb as it seems medium mid at best. I'm coming off a Vega 56 though so anything will be a huge upgrade.

>>107290485
>https://old.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/search/?q=prebuilt&sort=new&restrict_sr=on

>>107290485
Walmart is better desu

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Random ass question
I bought a used 3060TI 2 years ago and it works beautifully, no complaints there
However the card doesn't turn off the monitor when i turn off the computer. Computer will go off, the image will go black and then the monitor come back up wiht whatever its his non signal screen. My previous screen connected on hdmi was just a blue panel, this one connected through display port says that its receiving no signal and then goes to power saving mode, so to a point this one does turn off but now as it should.
It happened with another monitor i tested with, and it only started happening with this card.
Anybody has any idea of anything to try? its just the most minor of quirks, but i would fix it if i can.
Thank you for reading my blog anon.

>>107290649
>this one connected through display port says that its receiving no signal and then goes to power saving mode
So it works normally? That's great.

>>107290687
well sorta
it does it in like two steps? i think that it should just go down with the pc, instead goes down, turns on again with a while foggy screen displaying the no signal and then like 15 secs later goes down
So in the end this is a better situation than the previous monitor that i had to turn down with the button and back on in the morning but its still not how it should be (i think)

>1-2 SSD
>maybe a HDD
>would like one 5.25"
>air cool setup
>no extreme wattage components
What's a good mini-ATX for this?
I want something small, black, simple, clean and quiet.
Like a Fractal R5 but a bit smaller, sized down for mATX.

I see they had a Mini C case but that seems to be either sold out everywhere or discontinued.

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Any of you autists bought an OLED monitor (or TV) at BestBuy? If so, do you recommend or have you used their Geek Squad supplemental warranty shit? I have seen positive things floating around given its cost and how its hilariously good burn in protection.

Trying to decide if it is worth it or not-- $169.99 for 4 years

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>>107289728
build of the year coming through

i have 2000 dollars build me something decent plz I want to run tarkov better

>>107290931
I wish I could afford to be twice the regular price just for some Miku branding, but alas, I am poor.

>>107290931
thats wonderful anon

good 1tb gen4x4 m.2 drive?

>>107290979
And by "be" I mean "spend" of course.

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>>107290978
Picrel for Mobo and cpu to save 45$
https://us-store.msi.com/Motherboards/AMD-Platform-Motherboard/B850-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI
2x single sticks off newegg
good nvme
decent 5070TI
good case (feel free to pick any other for aesthetics)
good 850w psu

Maybe there are better deals on newegg or microcenter or whatever you yankees have, do your homework.
This will play anything at 1440p forever and at 4k with clutches for a while.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xwVJYd

Cheers

>>107290978
tarkov has low requirements, all you need is ram 32GB

>>107290978
use pcpartpicker and post your list here

>anons will tell you if you picked something bad
>2k in dollars can buy a decent rig

>>107290931
This is a bit much.
I'd buy a nice Miku figure to hold up my GPU if those existed though.

Seeing your collection in the background I guess having a whole Miku themed PC makes sense though.

>>107291133
I will do the opposite, Im going to sit a noodle stopper miku ontop of my gpu!

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is there any point in buying this if I've got no space on my desk? Leaving it on the ground feels like a waste because I lose access to the front I/O

>>107291038
More like 128GB from what I've read online.

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>>107290931
if you say so

>no glowie for me
>the rest looks well done

>>107289949
>it is a fashion decor item at the end of the day
Wrong, it's the best x86 HTPC / living room media center.
>CEC
I don't give a fuck about gaming and I'll be buying one asap.

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only missing psu and case now
REEEEE

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>>107291169
i would not, cabling on the floor is bad juju

>plus it gets dusty fast down there

>>107291194
that mobo looks SBC sized, not PC sized

>>107291194
i know that feels, stuff is coming in day by day but the mobo won't be here for at least another week

>>107291207
its ITX, its all the rage now and all of the cool kids are doing it

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>>107291133
That miku 5080 comes with a leek stand kek

>>107291152
You know what, that might be a good idea.
Maybe I will get myself a normal bracket and a Miku separately. Mildly concerned about the potential of her melting from being placed on a hot GPU though. I don't know if the top side is hot enough to do damage over time.

>>107291207
truly
my first time ever handling a mini itx and its just comically small
>>107291215
ah damn, praying for a swift delivery

>>107291235
That's brilliant.

>>107291241
You went with an AIO, what case, board, CPU?

I'm sticking to air in a Jonsbo T9 but using a laptop chip BD790i X3D (so not socketed).

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>>107291201
this arm stand has been fucking me up ever since I installed it. it's cool and convenient but my desk is to close to the wall so I can't center the monitors at all to free up space on the sides

>>107291169
>on
Have you considered hanging it from the underside of the desk?
They make things for that.

>lose access to the front I/O
Get a USB hub with a long cable? or what are you trying to do? Plug headphones or something in?

These are problems that can be solved by just.. not touching the machine, and relocating what you interact with to the desk instead. USB audio interface, USB hub, external power button, etc.

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Heya friends!

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/xHWxXR

I need your guys's opinion if the case is a good one or not. I do need a metal one with the buttons on the front.

Also which Mobo should I get? I have 900 euros to go, live in germany and it's primarly for gaming.

Heard the B850's are more futureproof than the 650's.

I'll get a better GPU next year, thanks for all the answers fellas.

>>107291283
bought it bundled like that on ebay, 9700k, Gigabyte H310N, aio with a grizzly kryo sheet and 32gb ram
going to put it in the phanteks eclipse P200A Mini-ITX I got for 30 bucks
>Jonsbo T9
Ohh never seen that one, very sleek

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>>107291312
things for that

I have a thing like that and my desk is about 5ft wide, it's OK but I do occasionally hit the system with my knee. it's an HP Z840 so it's me that takes the hit

>>107291312
>hanging it from the underside of the desk
that's probably gonna get in the way of my legs and there's also an H shaped iron frame under the desk so I bet that's going to make things inconvenient
>USB hub with a long cable
I might as well forget about the front I/O and use the motherboard ports for that since they are probably better. It's just that it feels like the case has been designed to stand on a desk close to your hands. My only alternative is to move the vesa mount more on the side and leave it off centered

>>107291328
>https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/xHWxXR
That case supports gpus up to 322mm i believe so you might have trouble with gpus bought in the future. Buy the cheapest B850 with good reviews that has the IO you need they'll all handle a 9800x3d while gaming.

>>107291340
it's tiny compared to my >>107291345 which weighs in at close to 70lb (thats >31kg), it's a tank.

I haven't built a new system in decades, always got secondhand stuff from the labs at work.

>>107291236
some guy on reddit set a noodle stopper on his GPU for like 3 years and did regular reports if it melted/got damaged. it held up fine. the melting point for PVC is quite alot higher than a GPU will get, i think its gonna be fine

>>107291236
>potential of her
>>107291366
she should be in a bikini so she doesn't overheat while tanning in the glowie.

>gotta treat the ladies right, huh anons?

is there a google doc that gathers 9070 XTs undervolt/power limit settings from users? data for getting the most out each card by model

>>107291361
Any case that doesn't have tempered glass with the USB connectors in the front and not on top that you'd recommend?

if i dont usually go outside do i need a phone charging brick if my pc already has usb c port?
cant i just use my pc as a charging brick?

found a new 9070xt pulse for 580 euro, should I try to sell my 7900xt pulse for the same price to upgrade? I really want to use fsr4, fsr3 sucks ass

>>107291480
if you can sell it for the same price ofc, but rdna3 will have fsr4 eventually

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>>107291360
>H shaped iron frame
most underdesk mounts can deal with that, anon

i may have seemed like i was complaining >>107291345 about hitting my knee but i would totally do it again for my Jonsbo T9 if I could find a mount to use, my existing mount is sized for something more .. robust

i used to have my UPS on the floor under the PC with this setup

>>107291489
>rdna3 will have fsr4 eventually
Bull shit.

>>107291378
thats right anon, miku is a national treasure

>>107290506
Just finished installing my 5070 so not positive yet, but it looks like Wan2GP is the answer. It's in the /ldg/ op, so you could ask them. Gonna mess with it later myself cause I'm new to video gening.
>github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP

isn't about time the AI bubble bursts?

holy fuck I had no idea GPUs were so huge now
And I got an "SFF" one
how the fuck is this SFF??

>>107291590
it's gonna pop right after you buy your ram sticks

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>>107291595
Its ""SFF ready"" according to nvidia's own definition
>https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/gfecnt/20246/small-form-factor-sff-ready/

>>107291590
The more industry savvy shareholders are starting to suspect that vibe revenue is not revenue at all, but it's gonna take at least one more quarterly report for normalfags to notice.

https://mobomaps.com/

holy shit it's fantastic I've dreamed of a site like this for years. I hope even more boards and sockets are added to it.

>>107291638
I'm heading to the discord rn and requesting 7 segment display added to the feature support.

>>107291638
hope it gets b850s, but honestly you can get all that information by visiting the manufacturers websites

>>107291450
Sure but won't it be slow as shit charging

>>107291450
yes, it'll just slow charge but since you're a NEET it doesn't fucking matter.

should i build my pc on my bed

>>107290931
are you that mikuanon from /bsg/

>>107290417
Mantlepiece it. 1080/1080TI deserves it.

>>107290237
You'd be a fool to sell them before 2026.

>>107289827
Did they really think Asus would allow their own 800W Matrix bios to be flashed to the filthy pleb tier Astrals? LOL. They may not be able to stop other brands but they damn sure will not let that sodomy fly in their own house.

>>107291777
slight correction, it doesn't flash onto astrals and astral LCs made before the astral white was launched since asus silently updated the PCB and firmware to address and support 3 fan channels (because of der8auer's kvetching videos) which breaks compatibility between the astral white & matrix and the older tuf, astral black & astral LC which only supports 2 fan channels

>>107291754
Do you think it'll make that much of a difference? It's only a 16gb kit after all... plus who's actually going to be in the market for 16gb of ddr4?

>>107289886
The gabecube won't save anyone

gabecube is made with mobile parts, it's gonna be good because valve works really hard with the optimizations, the steamdeck is great, but the real deal is using better AMD hardware and siphoning the steamOS upgrades and optmizations

>>107291896
Steam Deck and Steam Machine are only viable because Valve writes their own custom drivers. Compare it to other prebuilts that don't

Alright lads, rate my haul - these are parts for my b450/5700x3d build i bought this month
Super Flower 750w Combat psu - $60 (upgrading from decade old EVGA 750G2 that has trouble with transients)
Used DDR4 32gb 3400mhz kit - $90 (upgrading from 16gb)
RX 6800 - $280 (upgrading from 5700xt)
heard about the ram shit and decided to act
I was looking at used RX 6700xts but the prices went crazy so I moved up to the next tier.

>>107291937
consider the 9060 xt 16gb if you can afford, it'll age better

>>107290468
RX580's and RX 6600 sell for more than 50 bucks, a 1080 is at least a hundo

>>107289728
My OEM 4080 came, it's fucking massive. Shockingly or not so shockingly, it's *pristine* Anons, it's literally spotless.

>>107291937
>>107291951
Yeah AMD deals go live today and tomorrow so now really is the time to buy one
It'd be $50-$70 more than that RX 6800 that's not even an XT but age much much better

>>107291980
pics

>>107289903
They're calling it "matrix bios-gate" holy shit they are mad as fuck ITT kek

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>>107292000

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>>107289728
I am honored my PC is the OP for a /pcbg/ thread. I was up half of the night working on this Miranda-class MOC to put inside of it. Not the final model I am going to put in the case (I bought parts to build the Rocinante from The Expanse) but overall this build cost way too much fucking money and there are still some upgrades I want to do to max it out but fuck memory prices right now.

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>>107291980
does it have one of those OEM shrouds?

>>107291951
>>107291992
sadly $280 is pretty much my limit bros
it was this or a 8gb 9060xt for $250. I made my choice and will have to live with it.

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>>107292012
KEK
I never expected the 5090 matrix's launch to cause so much seethe

>>107291777
Asrock is parent to Asus and they allow you to flash AMD cards at least.

>>107292039
It's an air cooled 800w card. My water blocked 5090 has better potential.

>>107292125
flash the bios and prove it

>>107292144
I don't have too. Plenty of retards have already done it. 800w on air is pointless. And isn't there a 1000W plus bios in the wild? I know some have flashed it to an Astral.

>>107292125
>800w
>air cooled
lol wtf was asus thinking

I'm seeing lots of 34" VA screens with 160~180hz for sale in this black friday, which makes me think it's a massive inventory cleanup, which indicates 240hz VA ultrawide screens will replace them, it's a completely different price class from oled panels, I hope that will be the case, I want to move to ultrawide next year but wanna keep my 240hz rate I have on my 1080p screen

Can I run 3600mhz ddr4 memory with a lower speed? My mobo only supports 3466mhz, but I found some used sticks for cheap. Also, does the CL16-CL18 latency thing really matter in practice?

>>107292214
yes and yes

>>107292171
>And isn't there a 1000W plus bios in the wild?
That was a fake bios that cant be used since its modded and not signed by a vendor so it will never initialize.
This matrix 800W bios is the best publicly available 5090 bios.

>>107292217
Thanks, 32gb here I come

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Im this anon >>107283758
I have been trying but it seems that no matter the undervolt KCD2 eventually crashes, i can overclock it slightly and doesn't really give me a problem but any undervol ends up crashing
Sucks cause i dont want the gpu to be at 90º 99%load while gaming, im fine losing a bit of performance if that keeps the temp on check a bit
I wonder if its my card or my shitty psu
It is what it is

>>107292229
>That was a fake bios that cant be used
I though JayzNoSense was using it?

>>107292326
JayZ has access to the 2000W XOC bios that's only available behind an NDA

>>107290931
>i paid and extra $1000 to let everyone know i am trans
stunning and brave

>>107290931
Did you buy the miku monitor as well?

I just realised I was forced to get CL36 ram instead of CL30, does this actually matter?

>>107292365
minor perf difference at best. cl36 is alright if the xmp/expo profile is stable for you

>>107292365
honestly right now the only shit that matters is getting any ram at all

>>107292330
Where do I sign an NDA (and I guess a warranty waiver too) to get unlocked bios for my gpu?

>>107292394
You gotta be in the boy's club and have a direct Asus contact

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This monitor is pretty bad which was surprising to me. VRR flicker is there and bad (worse than my oled), viewing angles were honestly embarrassing. You can sit directly in front of this monitor and the top and bottom of it will have horrible gamma shift. The matte coating is even worse than the red magic mini led I got back in 2023. The OSD is bad too. When HDR is enabled almost all of the display settings are grayed out.

The only positive is it is actually brighter than the M27P6 and has noticeably better contrast. Not enough to keep it though. I'm going to stick with my KTC monitors + OLED and call it a day. Mini LED is probably never going to be good unless it has over 10k+ dimming zones.

>>107292413
I forgot to mention that the 1152 zones on my current monitor are somehow better than the 2304 on the tcl monitor. Dimming algo really makes all the difference huh. I don't understand why 1152 zones seem to be better than any 2304+ zone monitor. Even the Red Magic monitor with 5088 sucked ass.

>>107292413
No surprise there the TCL miniLED TVs also have total crap dimming

>>107292344
Post rig.

>>107290931
this is cool but don't you think you'll get tired of that color scheme after a while?

>>107292413
>The only positive is it is actually brighter than the M27P6 and has noticeably better contrast.
I'm waiting to see what the M27T6 looks like since it's VA. Maybe I'll grab a 32'' 4K Tandem OLED next year.

>>107292473
>VA
It's dead. I will say the TCL monitor did not have black smearing, but it still has all of the other problems with VA (terrible viewing angles, vrr/gsync flicker).

I think you should just wait for tandem oled. Mini LED fucking sucks.

>>107292373
I didnt even realise CL was a thing till now. I just checked and my ddr4 ram is CL16, I wonder why they are so much higher for ddr5.

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>>107292448
>no rgb
>no windows
>no faggotry
i look forward your reply filled with cope and seethe

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>>107292536
the bandwidth speed is much higher so the cl has to be looser (higher). ddr5 is still faster in the end.

>>107292536
timings are just a way to regulate how much delay the memory controller should wait for when carrying out instructions so that it receives data properly and not garbled junk. the fundamental technology of ram hasnt changed since ddr1 and so the latency has stagnated since ddr2 at about 7-12ns access delay for the simplest read operation (tCL) and the amount of cycles will scale according to the ram's signaling speed to get that 7-12ns delay.

can someone tell me what the difference between a corsair rm1000x shift and regular rm1000x is?
I was looking to get a new PSU, because I also want to get a new grafix card.
or whats the difference to an rm1000e?
the shift and e are like 40 bux cheaper than the x variant

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>>107292568
rm1000e = chinkshit, best to avoid
rm1000x = standard high quality option
shift = strange form factor where the cables come out at a 90 degree angle from usual, picrel

>>107292577
I know that the shift has the 90 degree meme, but I was wondering if there was a different reason for the price difference to a regular 1000x

>>107292582
it breaks compatibility with non-standard tower cases so the demand for that model is lower

>>107292541
>he’s one of those “Linux is my entire personality” losers
NTA butI remember when I was 18 too

>>107292568
The power connectors are SHIFTED to the side
“e” variants are made in Taiwan and are of lesser quality than “x” variants that are made in Japan.

Shift is probably cheaper because it has less compatibility with cases and is less desired.

>>107292577
>>107292589
>>107292590
aight thanks. I will keep looking at PSUs
but the 1000x is on the option list

>>107292541
>Bitching about RGB.
Shut off the LEDs or buy a replacement mesh side panel. Problem solved. However, the main draw of a window is to put something in the window but most cattle are too poor to put effort into their setup.

I wish I could turn off ram led without having to run software on startup every time, one day I'll rip them off when Sam Altman is in jail

>>107292621
just beware that some models of rgb ram like the Z5s have the LEDs literally soldered onto the pcb

>>107292621
Corsair ram saves the rgb profile to the ram itself so you can turn it off in icue and it’ll stay off forever aka even if you uninstall icue.

>>107292645
kingston fury doesn't have that

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>>107292638
>>107292645
>>107292621
This is why you buy Team Group memory.
I mean you buy it when it doesn't cost $600 a kit.

>>107292663
nah m8
cl34-44-44 is mystery meat territory

>>107292663
>624 dollaridoos
jesus fucking christ, I pity everyone who's trying to buy RAM atm

How do i find the starting point of mhz/v to start undervolting?
Im playing a demanding game pushing my gpu but it fluctuates too much, do i keep the highest points in my memory?

>>107292670
I run it at 6000 CL30 like everyone else.

>>107292663
>temu ram
No way fag

>>107292680
the timings are loose enough for them to change ICs to tCL binned micron or samsung ram in the future

>>107292675
first find your stable undervolt, reduce mv until no longer stable or performance reduces instead of goes up.
then start adjusting your memory clock. same as before.

>>107292483
I'm not very sensitive so it should be good enough until then.

>>107292590
i meant windows as in glass panels. i run win10iot
>>107292613
>i didnt follow the thread up before posting
ok retard

>>107292706
>i run win10iot
Probably shouldn't throw stones at glass houses there anon.

so I want to upgrade my NVME drive. right now windows is installed on a gen 4 nvme ssd that sits in my motherboard primary m2 slot. That slot supports gen 5 drives while the two other slots only support gen 4.
I found a great deal on a gen 5 4tb ssd and I would like to use it as my main drive, but I have a few questions. can I just swap ssd after saving everything and reinstall windows on the new one with no issues?
also the primary slot uses the motherboard integrated heatsink. When I first installed it, I remember removing the protective film. Will it be reapplied if I swap the ssd, or should I buy the version with the heatsink and leave the motherboard integrated heatsink?
for reference, the botherboard is B650 Aorus Elite Ax v2 and the ssd is crucial t700. Thanks

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What's the best cheapest legal way to activate Windows 11 Pro?

I seriously don't want to run russian scripts or buy from a dubious site

>>107292767
massgravedev

>>107292719
its my online gaming rig. not like i have choice
>inb4 some obscure linux distro
i run kubuntu/lubuntu/batocara on most devices but some games you just cant play one them

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Does anyone recognize this backplate? It's on a LGA115x socket.

>>107292795
>Does anyone recognize this backplate
yes that's dave. he lives just down the road from me. has a missus with two kids. one of the kids head looks like someone punched a half deflated football

>>107292702
but am i not supposed to start from the high point my gpu clock reaches during a game and then try to achieve that voltage with lower voltage?
How can i do that if my clock fluctuates a lot during the game, as i said do i just "keep in mind" whatever is the highest point i can remember?

>>107292812
msi afterburner lets you adjust the whole curve. just start where your game clocks are at. lower the range until you crash or your benchmark scores are lowering instead of going up.

>Buy a low end thermalright cpu cooler for my 5600x as a black friday treat to myself
I> was on a stock ryzen cooler and i probably didnt need the new cooler but w/e, as i said just a small treat
>Took a while to install cause having to hold the backplate while trying to set up the frames and stands was a pain
>whatever got it set
>the pc doesnt post
>all fans go but no usb devices light (mouse keyboard)
>turn on button on the case doesnt power down if i keep it pressed
>fuckme
>bugsbunnygentlemanmeme
>read that i might have fucked the ram or gpu seating while tinkering with the cpu cooler
>reseat ram
>nothing
>reseat gpu
>everything works

Morale of the story, if it works... DONT FUCKING TOUCH IT

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>>107292828
got this screenshot of what i thought was the highest point, or one of the highest
So i aim for those 1965mhz but start at 1000 v instead of 1,081v
Am i in the right track then? But that would cap it at 1965mhz no? what happens if that wasnt the highest point? am i not supposed to flat the rest of the curve at that point?
I hate being so lost

>>107292541
Wow a computer case. Anything actually good in there?

>>107292865
what gpu do you have

>>107292905
3060TI

>>107292865
Run Unigine Superposition with HWInfo closed, the app's performance monitor will show accurate boost clocks and will settle to a peak once the GPU's heated up.

>>107292905
I appreciate the interest, i promise im not completely retarded
>>107292926
on it chief

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Is this a good motherboard?
https://www.microcenter.com/product/696958/gigabyte-x870e-aorus-elite-wifi7-ice-amd-am5-atx-motherboard

I'm thinking about getting it where it comes in this bundle where it gets a significant discount:
https://www.microcenter.com/product/5007244/amd-ryzen-9-9950x3d,-gigabyte-x870e-aorus-elite-ice-wifi7-am5,-cpu-motherboard-bundle

>>107292920
a safe undervolt for 3060ti is 925-950mv at 1950mhz. just ensure the curve doesnt exceed that mv.

>>107292952
350$ board, it better be fucking good
9950x3d memecpu

>>107292884
nothing special. just 7600/9070xt

>>107292952
Pcie lane routing sucks
The x870e Aorus elite x3d ice is leaps and bounds better

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>>107292926
on a full run of the benchmark it never settled, it capped at about 1920 early on then dipped to about 1700 when the gpu was heated but it never really settled
Should i run this thing on a loop for a while (dont know if i can) so that it gets more info?

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I'm mixing DDR4 ram sticks that are in the same brand, CAS and speed but the only difference is the size, my mobo can support flex mode too. I'm going to bridge them like this: 8gb | 16gb | 8gb | 16gb. Do you think this is okay?

>>107293061
It means your card has terrible cooling, is it the Eagle?

>>107293003
Is the lane routing in the specs somewhere?

Also, since the elitex3d isn't in a bundle, do you know of a cheaper motherboard better than the one that I linked?

>>107293081
no

>>107293087
Any demerits on this?

>>107293096
ram will run slower

>>107293083
Its this one >>107290649

>>107293084
Yes gigabyte shows the pcie lane routing diagram in the board's manual available on the motherboard's page.
The bundle options suck pretty bad
Between the three I'd just pick the gigabyte I guess. The msi -P is pretty low quality and the x870e-e's new gpu quick release mechanism is janky and a downgrade from the older button release design.
I'd strongly suggest to ignore the bundle deal and get something like the msi x870e tomahawk if it doesn't cost too much more.

>>107292999
>7600/9070xt
a 9070XT pairing that actually makes sense rare to see

>>107293083
i ran it once with the undervolt anon mentioned here >>107292962 950/1950 and it completed with an slightly higher score, gonna try at 925/1950 now

>>107293081
Anything more complex than "2 sticks from 1 set" can cause compatibility issues and/or require tweaking speed down.
Or it might run perfectly fine, especially if all ram chips are from same fab.
What speed/timings? Generally 10ns+ often works even with different manufacturers but it also depends on chipset.

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my rgb mogs all yours

>>107293175
only my case has RGB and it's permanently off because I actually want to see content on my screen and not the glow of lights in the color spectrum of lgbt

>>107293152
Both are CL 16-20-20, 3200mhz and 1.35v.

>>107293175
looks like a uap

>>107293191
usually works fine on anything newer than X370+Zen1
but no guarantees

>>107293175
would never have such a setup but goood for you anon if you like it, its ok to sometimes splurge on useless stuff that makes us happy

>>107293146
That cooler shouldn't have issues sustaining +1900MHz boost with a good undervolt.

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>>107293214
Well, only way to find out. I'll install it tomorrow.

>>107292952
It's fairly good but not $350 wtf. It's $280 on Amazon and the black version is only $250.

>>107292023
I think so yeah

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>>107289728
Rate my workstation build for my CAD design biz, frens
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/V7XT8Q

RAM pricing keep rising ive noticed... havent check up on this build in a while but am hoping to pull the trigger by next week.
Any improvements/suggestions? Trying to get price below 7k but if its a little above is fine

>>107293137
i wanted something i can waitfag on until am6/rdna5 and im not made of doubloons
>>107293175
>larping youre in a gay disco when you're in a room by yourself
no thanks

Y60 is so pretty but its expensive and doesn't have any fans
anything similar but poorfag friendly?

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>>107292018
That's a nice no nonsense model. I just wish they had put the fan connectors and cables on the opposite side facing the motherboard to make it look 3x cleaner and nicer

AMD Adrenalin fan tuning keeps on resetting to default. How do I fix this?

>>107293278
buy a 5090

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i turn the rgb off when i'm not feelin the disco vibes. it sucks that signalrgb doesn't support FE cards and i need more rgb software (openrgb) to turn off the lights.

>>107293132
You mean this manual?
https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Manual/mb_manual_x870e-aorus-elite-wf7-ice_1202_e.pdf
Which page should I be looking at and which part of the diagram corresponds to lane routing.

>>107292685
But Team Group's nice

>>107293278
moreclocktool

>>107293275
I will say I am a bit skittish at the minute, as I'm getting some stutters but I'm still on my Ryzen 3700x B450 build so I can cope and say it's due to PCIE3.0 for now.
Not sure if it's just warframe but H3VR finally ran okay, turns out the thing only needed... 15.1GB of VRAM to run smoothly.

is there a substantial weight difference between mATX and ATX builds? like 3 kg difference? want a somewhat portable solution that doesn't have as much of a tax that ITX builds have.

>>107293318
build a regular computer and stop bein a fag

>>107293299
The block diagram on page 5. Might be a bit hard to understand just by looking at it, but it's also described in the "Expansion Slots" section on page 8.

>>107293175
all purple > rainbow

>>107292952
I have the black version, it's pretty nice but I only paid $250 for it. If you're fine with the PCI-E lanes putting your X16 slot at X8 when using a second Gen 5 drive, it's pretty good. But there is a Gen 4 slot that doesn't do that.

>>107293299
>>107293333
And it's the top left of the block diagram, the PCIE 5.0/4.0 bus. Under that it has the switch, and it indicates that if you put an M2 drive in the M2B_CPU or M2C_CPU slots, the PCIE x16 slot will only operate at x8 speed. And there's only one other M2 slot on the board and it's only a gen 4.

>>107292999
Fair enough. Decent for an AMD fanboy.

>>107293299
https://mobomaps.com/
This guy has been making videos explaining all of this but he just launched this website, it's pretty cool and that board is on there.

>>107293363
Oh whoops there is actually another gen 5 M2 slot that doesn't conflict with the x16 PCIE slot (M2A_CPU)

>>107293175
I'd say you need more fans, but I literally cannot.

>>107293370
i am a fan of whats good at the time of purchase. it replaced a 3770k/1070ti that is still going strong

>>107293363
>>107293376
Thanks for the explanation. I was thinking of maybe getting a single gen 5 nvme and then expanding with gen 4, sata, and hdds. So it sounds like if I put the gen 5 nvme in the M2B_CPU or M2C_CPU, it will throttle the gpu I put in the PCI 5.0 slot?

>>107293338
The other versions are cheaper by themselves but the ice one is in a bundle that shaves off $150.

>>107293311
I'd say its probably a cpu bottleneck. Use a performance monitoring overlay like capframex (simple to use) or msi afterburner (requires some setup) and observe the gpu usage % and clockspeed. If it drops erratically while cpu usage spikes up then its a cpu bottleneck.

>>107290931
Oh the Miku version is a Helios 2. I build earlier this year with the Helios only available. I'm a bit pissed but at the same time the only versions available are black, white and Miku but no silver/white anymore. Looks nice though in future for my next build I'd probably get a BTF case

>>107293406
So weirdly, it's a simultaneous collapse in both CPU and GPU usage. But again I think it's just Warframe as I can't replicate it on other games just yet.
Will download it though now and see what I find.

>>107293285
isnt signalrgb borderline spyware? i'd just use openrgb instead for peace of mind

>>107293405
>So it sounds like if I put the gen 5 nvme in the M2B_CPU or M2C_CPU, it will throttle the gpu I put in the PCI 5.0 slot?
Yea, although the actual throttling will most likely be very minor unless you are using a 5090. And any M2 in one of those slots will cause throttling, not just gen 5.

>>107293430
>unless you are using a 509
welp
but at least there's one other slot that won't do that right?

>>107293421
no? the signalrgb guys are nice people

Hello, I turn to you in great need.
Couple days ago my displays just suddenly went dark. The PC kept running, I didn't notice any weird sounds, fans ans light were working. Rebooting did nothing to fix it. I removed the GPU, still nothing. Went to a local shop to check GPU, it works fine (Guy did it for free, entire PC troubleshooting would cost lots). Said a Mainboard issue is most likely, I had a fucked Mobo once, so i got a new one. Same problem. Now I got a new PSU because i noticed that mouse and keyboard get no power, same problem. I tried switching RAM around, only using one and so on.

So here I am, current status:
>PC turns on
>fans spinning
>Mobo has no lights (Showed CPU light, but went away after using a single RAM stick, could be XMP issue because new Mobo)
>both monitors no signal
>mouse/keyboard no power (work fine on laptop)
>SSD works fine (connected to laptop)

Im kinda about to give up here. A repair shop is too costly considering I planned to get a new rig anyway, just not now... so I'm reluctant to waste money on a repair.

I'm also stumped why not even the keyboard gets any power. Shouldn't the Mobo work even without GPU, CPU or RAM? Do any of you have ideas to fix this mess?

>>107293473
maybe the mainboard's usb controller chip is dead

WHERE are the black friday deals, man, what the fuck, the prices won't go down.

>>107293430
Weird because when you filter his motherboard on the site to "No GPU Lane Sharing," it still shows up in the list, unless I'm misunderstanding something

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What the fuck is going here?
is this normal?

>>107293491
>maybe the mainboard's usb controller chip is dead
I do not it likely that the old and the new mobo got a faulty usb control chip. And even if, would not explain the other problems i think.

>>107293502
Oh never mind, I think it's because of that Gen4 M.2 that they are counting in the "No GPU Lane Sharing" filter

>>107293473
reset cmos

>>107293512
Sorry I didnt see that you replaced the board. Did you try a second cpu? i've heard of problematic cpus with broken I/O circuitry causing usb issues like that before

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>>107292018
Based OEM chad. As someone who paid 100 euros extra for a Dell 3090 over what a regular 3090 cost in the used market. So nice and compact (and it stays cool as well believe or not)

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These are the two best cases of the 2025

I need to choose

Full on Autism mode
or
Full on Femboy mode

>>107293540
For me the price was £599 (cashback included) So I couldn't really say no, I've been VRAPED for so long, it's nice to finally just have a 16GB card if nothing else.

does anyone have a hwinfo sensor status screenshot of a laptop using ryzen ai hx cpus?

>>107293520
>reset cmos
Tried on the old mobo, did nothing. I guess I could do it on the new one...
>>107293535
I don't have another CPU, its an 5600 AMD that I got just 1,5 years ago. Wouldn't explain the no power thing either.

>>107293440
Yea, M2A_CPU, the one between the CPU socket and the x16 slot.

>>107293547
>These are the two best cases of the 2025
no, that was the silverstone flp02

>>107293540
the dell 3090 in particular had pretty good vram cooling, better than most aib's so that's worth the cost

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>>107293555
I have one of a GPD Win 5 using it lol

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>>107293547
I really like the X50 but I got the matcha green one.

>>107293587
That's cool pics now

>return monitor to bestbuy
>they open it and check it's really in the box as i'm standing there and the other employees look at me like i'm a thief
i ain't to nothing to hide you dumb btich

>>107293562
so you tried new mobo, new psu and 1 stick of ram, the next step has to be a new cpu

>>107293578
I meant the normal strix point ones, not the strix halo. Thanks though.
I'm looking for one just to see what to look forward to with the 9000G AM5 chips that'll get announced in January.

>cpu package power - 3.169W
nice, they finally got that as low as Intel.

>>107292795
What is your real question?

>>107290029
>the lights in my room dim when I turn it on
Imagine living in a country that doesn't use 240v AC.

>>107293604
>new cpu
Would a faulty CPU really cause the mobo to not send any power to the keyboard/mouse? Can I get into BIOS without a CPU?

>>107293632
you can get a $50 cpu for am4 to test if it's not much money for you, you could even return it after testing
you're running out of options

>>107293632
yes. ive seen lots of people reporting issues like that happening up until they rma'd their cpu for a new one and it magically fixes itself

>>107293632
AMD CPUs has had all sorts of IO and USB issues for eternity anon especially AM4

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>>107293223
I have 2 kits like that but haven't tried pairing them because my understanding is that only the lower capacity will be recognized and it'll run as 4x8gb sticks and ultimately worse than the 2x16gb.

Do update us on what happens and how it performs. I'm interested.

>>107293662
So, if i took out the CPU, would I be able to get into BIOS? My mobo doesn't have integrated graphics, so if I keep my GPU in, took out the CPU would it be able to open BIOS?

>>107293732
nope. getting into bios requires a cpu

>>107293722
It will recognize their sizes. I say this as someone who used to run the following setup with DDR3. 2x2gb sicks and 1x8gb sticks. Recognized it as a 12gb system. Only if the ram sticks have different speeds does this matter. If you have a 2666mhz kit and 3200mhz kit the system will run at 2666mhz if you mix the sticks.

>>107293735
>getting into bios requires a cpu
Are there any other ways to test if a CPU is fucked? I'm not buying any more stuff and not paying for repair shops, I guess otherwise its time for a new rig.

>>107293742
You ever try w/ ddr4 on an am4 board?

>>107293757
bring your cpu to a shop or a friend to test in isolation

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>>107291201
Source:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Vitriol-1-stolzius_von_stolzenburg-1614.PNG
>Anagrammatical, alchemical figure representing "Vitriol" here taken to stand for Visita interiora terrae; rectificando invenies occultum lapidem ("Visit the interior parts of the earth; by rectification you will find the hidden stone".) This from Stolzius von Stolzembuirg, Theatrum Chymicum, 1614.

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>>107293592
I need to clean the glass, I just smudged it the other day. It's kind of hard to get the color to look right on camera, I really like it in person.

>>107293759
Never with DDR4. I skipped DDR4 based desktops and went straight to DDR5. But I have mixed sticks with Intel based DDR4 laptops and they worked just fine.

>>107293774
I like it I'm sure it looks awesome in person just nice to have some new case designs out there

>>107292724
anyone can answer? I really don't want to ruin my ssd or make the wrong choice

>>107292724
yes pcie is backwards compatible and it will work fine. you can even use software to clone your drive exactly as it is onto the new ssd so you don't have to reinstall and manually move files over.

just reuse the motherboard heatsink with the old thermal pad, it will work just fine as long as it contacts the new ssd.

just reinstall the OS, it's good to reinstall it every year, stuff runs much faster, specially if you have a custom debloated iso you debloated yourself with ntlife

>>107293905
any recommendation for the software to clone the ssd? My current ssd has two partitions, one for the windows install the other for pretty much everything else, will that clone it as well?
and since I'll be moving the previous nvme ssd, will the thermal pad stick or is it easy to peel off?

>>107293936
Acronis came with a crucial ssd i got and worked fine for me

>>107293547
The Thermaltake AX700 is the best case of 2025 but you're too poor to afford it.

>>107293922
yeah reinstalling doesn't bother me too much, it's just the physical install I'm not sure about
the heatsink version costs 10 euros more, I'm still not sure if I should use the motherboard heatsink or not

>>107293774
Very cool looking case.

>>107293946
thanks

>>107293618
I'm just wondering what cooler it belongs to. I got it from a second-hand board with nothing else attached.

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>>107293804
Well my understanding is that it at least won't improve performance over a 2x16gb configuration w/ am4. I'm glad we have a guinea pig because I don't wanna deal with the setup & testing myself without precedent.

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>>107293774
Looks like a prop you'd see in Alien Isolation

imagine buying nvidia when jensen and his roundtripping gang will be in jail 2 months from now and nvidia will close and stop updating drivers forever.....

>>107294030
nice of you to join us nicotroon

>>107294030
Nobody important ever goes to prison for these corruption deals. At most they pay a fine and it's super fucking lax terms like payment over 20 years instead of upfront.

>>107294072
>nicotroon
Uh oh better be careful, you'll get a warning for "brandwarring"

>>107294030
tranny su will be going to jail for masquerading as a woman

delivery cunts fucked up all my packaging boxes fucking eco-cunts I swear how can you a motherboard and gpu in a fucking paper bag

>>107294129
Evri?

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>about to replace M.2 SSD
>remove mobo heatsink from old SSD
>protective film is still on the thermal pad
>

>>107293578
>91.9C on a handheld

how does that even work? that should burn your hand.

>>107294129
Kek where did you buy them?

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>>107294310

>>107294184
dpd amazon evri all guilty
>>107294329
scan ocuk amazon
ocuk did me some haribo

>>107294414
I live close enough to drive to both.
SCAN has the nicer showroom.

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dont have anyone else to share my excitement with, other than you anons!
just bought myself an "MSI MPG 341CQPX 34.18" QD-OLED", and its been absolutely great so far
it was 34% off, so i thought why not? i have considered several other screens, but this was ultra-wide, and i wanted to try something different for once
ive been using iiyama ProLite XB2776QS for almost 10 years now, and even though its still working fine to this day, it was time to upgrade
hopefully the new screen will serve me just as well!

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Am I fucking stupid if I get this for a 9800x3d and 5070ti? 32GB kits of the same speed are about $300 in burgerland, so shoul I just spend a little more for 64GB?

I just wanna play recent games and maybe do local ai generated videos, is 64GB unnecessary for a 16GB GPU?

>>107294571
I think you'd be kinda stupid not to get in before things get worse.

>Build new PC
>Get everything set up
>CPU fan is making a rattling noise.

Well, that's annoying.

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>>107294540
Happy for you.

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>>107294571
I checked the site and these are the cheapest 64GB kits on there and they're in store only

actually insane

I was gonna say find cheaper may cl36 but there really isn't even anything else to get at least from microcenter

>>107294617
Get a PNY card next upgrade so the CPU fan has a nice friend to rattle chat with

>>107294571
>is 64GB unnecessary for a 16GB GPU?
If you can get 64GB do it
Shit some games ask for 32GB already shit's only gonna get worse in the future
yes the price sucks and it's going to get worse too

>>107294571
That's a steal by today's prices. 64gb 6000cl30 kits are going for $800+ elsewhere

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>LG G5 55 w/ stand is 1430€
>literally wont get cheaper
>to go from the worst tv (edge lit 319€ 55" TV) to best possible tv is only 1100€
>kinda gave up on 55" for pc display but STILL maybe I can cope with it
>consider buying a C5 42" also since its 797€ since it might be the sweet spot after all
It's all so tiring

>>107294655
America is certainly being hit the hardest in this DRAPE shit. Ram's crazy here too but your prices are mental.

>>107294679
Dude just go to a store and see for yourself so these surprises don't hit as hard

It looks like a nice setup and it's only bringing you pain

>>107294679
Did you run out of money for the rest of the keyboard?

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>>107294695
>Dude just go to a store and see for yourself so these surprises don't hit as hard
does not really tell you anything as how it would work in practice
55" is fuck huge and you really need to sit far away, more than the youtube jeet from pic related is sitting too
it really is too tall really need to be further away
and ideally you would place it further down too so you look down at this point almost too
which makes me think a 55" is kinda bad
but then again you can't get the BEST HDR displays without 55"inchmaxxing

>>107294679
so you look at this screen from not even 1 meter?

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>>107294722
it's a youtubejeet's setup

>>107294724
yes

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>>107294679
Is he a T-rex?

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>>107294621
thank you anon!

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>>107294771
You should have added this one. It still gets people banned.

>>107294788
>It still gets people banned.
no way

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