>News & Rumors
Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027
RTX 50 Super, 2026 launch? 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super. Potentially cancelled, likely q3 if still being released
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"
AMD FSR "Redstone" Arrives December 10, Exclusive to Radeon RX 9000 Series

>Product Notice

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
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https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
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>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.

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>>107280241
Nice. There are even african week deals on that card. I'll take your word for it and go for the 5070 and replace my almost decade old PSU while I'm at it. Cheers.

>>107280295
I prefer the term Floyd Friday

i'm trying to build new pc arround 9800x3d and im looking for an AM5 motherboard
i was thinking about MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK WIFI but there is a nasty suprise
>This product contains an irreplaceable battery
so what if my cmos battery dies? i throw the mobo to trash? holy fuck is that a thing now?

AMD RX 10 series coming anytime soon?
wanted 16GB 9060s for slightly cheaper is all

I hope OP's pic is satire

>>107280314
This bait should be unwrapped.

>>107280381
>t. kyroshill

>>107280385
no, i'm normally asking, the battery can last long, but what if it fails?

>>107280416
then you would need to solder in a new battery it seems

>>107280314
>>This product contains an irreplaceable battery
where are you seeing that?

now that everyone is aware that the entire AI thing is a scam, if you buy DRAM at those prices you're just an idiot, unless you desperately need it.

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>>107280437
in the manual
https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MAGX870ETOMAHAWKWIFI_English.pdf

How do you dust your case? I ordered an electric air duster for $10, hope it works.

I'm upgrading my 10 year old pc and trying to shoot for a mid range gaming build, like 1440p 60 fps. With a 9600x and a 9060 xt 16 gb is 2x 8gb 4800CL40 ram really going to handicap me? The market is brutal at the moment.

>>107280416
The battery is rechargeable and is powered the moment you turn your PC on. If it died I guess you'll just be stuck with permanent stock bios settings I guess? Solder new battery, take it to a repair shop for them to do that for you, or maybe its time to replace your 30+ year old motherboard.

>>107280459
for 60 fps will be fine, CL40 is bit rough though, also I double 60 to 120 with AFMF2 as a rule, even if the game doesn't support frame gen
modern gaming is pretty nice

>>107280459
don't upgrade if you don't need it, if you need it only change the gpu

>>107280456
Just got one, haven't used it yet. Compressed gas duster was my usual, although I know someone who's scared of using that because of some video he saw where a pc catches fire when using it.

>>107280478
literally how

>>107280314
>MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK WIFI
>>107280437
>>107280454
odds are you won't ever need to replace the cmos, but if you do, its replaceable.
https://youtu.be/tQvRx873CwQ

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Do my fans need to be spinning at this temperature? Shouldn't it be idle?

>>107280485
same way people shoot themselves when cleaning guns my bet

What's the deal with kryonaut/extreme?

is 4 ram really that bad? 4 sticks of 16gb is much cheaper than 2 32gb and i will be getting either 14600kf or 265kf

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>>107280514
4 ram is better than 2 ram

>>107280496
it's normally is idle up to 50C', did you tweak some settings?

>>107280475
I've got an i5-4690k and a mobo that's got DDR 3 ram and pcie3. I feel like adding a 9060 xt would be polishing a turd, no?

>>107280509
shit paste that's prone to drying out quickly and suffer from pumpout

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Wd236Q

Any Idea what PSU/Mobo I should get?

I'm not sure if the mobo i put in is any good. Budget is around 800/900 euros, Germany and for gaming mostly if that matters.

>>107280496
Most fans don't support turning off by PWM signal (some of the better ones like Noctua do support it) and most default fan ramps also don't turn fans off by default. Assuming your fans are all plugged into your mobo, you may be able to edit the fan curves from the BIOS.

I don't necessarily suggest turning fans off though, there's actually a big difference between a little airflow (low fan speed) and none at all, a lot more heat will build up if you turn fans off completely.

>>107280456
I have one of those blower things intended for spray painting, I just take the case outside and blow the dust out with the hose from that thing.

>>107280555
I fell for the meme, should I replace today?

>>107280573
yes, I would go for mx-6 but feel free to see what other options there are

>>107280573
if you live in a country where you can get cheap PTM cut outs, get that, works great even on CPU

>>107280582
>>107280591
I already bought mx6 when someone told me kryonaut dries out. But this is the first i've ever heard of it causing damage. I used it on 2 cpu's and a gpu and I'm scared sir.

>>107280514
14th gen can run four 16gb sticks fairly easily
just make sure all of them contains the same type of ram chip (micron rev g, hynix a-die, m-die etc.)

What is the best available nVidia card that does not use the huge fire on the block power connectors?

I'm a fan noise schizo

>>107280592
>it causing damage.
probably not, hardware would simply throttle and shut down if it reaches critical temps

>>107280555
I hope Duronaut is alright, I'm using it on my i7-7700 (because tropics, I didn't want to go beyond 65W)

>>107280592
the damage was caused by the milling process, they cheeped out on the milling process to push out products quicker causing big chunks forming in their paste causing scratches and worse performance

>>107280594
5060TI
I think that every single 5070 and upwards all use the 12

>>107280537
in that case, yes, upgrade, I would buy the cheapest ram I could tho

>>107280551

Upgrade the cpu to a 4790 and pair it with an rx 480/580 or 1080 ti.

>>107280594
rtx4070

>>107280609
duronaut is ok, it's just kyronaut that's usable for daily use

>>107280594
you can also consider the 3090 (all 2/3 8-pin except for the FE) or 3090ti (the only safe implementation of 12vhpwr) if you don't mind buying used
the former is about as quick as a 4070 while the latter is as fast as a 4070ti

Just bought a B450 AM4 mobo and a 2700X. The board only supports pcie 3. Can I pair it with an RTX 3060 12 gb?

What's the correct ddr5 ram speed for a 12900k? Is 6400CL32 still the sweet spot despite the older socket?

>>107280612
So this isn't like "do it today," it's more like "do it when temps rise"

>>107280663
yes, I would recommend changing your paste in 2-3 months. but for now your fine.

>>107280657
12th gen imc is trash. 6400cl32 might even be a challenge in some boards so 6000cl30 is still the fastest justwerks xmp profile

>>107280509
I used kryonaut once and it nicked the hell out of my aio's coldplate and first 9900k's IHS. It was the most expensive paste I'd bought up to that point too.
Never again.

>>107280257
These scratches are normal with metal oxide pastes. What's the tard on about?

>>107280704
bro not even paste made with diamonds (ic diamond) causes scratches, kyronaut should not be doing this

Anons, I have a problem with the rear USB ports on AMD X870E
First I bought an MSI X870E Carbon. On the rear USB-A ports, only devices like a mouse or keyboard would work. When I plug in an external SSD, it isn’t detected. The SSD does work on the rear USB-C port, but I think that port also has issues, when I plug in a phone, it shows “fast charging” for a few seconds and then drops to “cable charging.” Looks like maybe a power issue? PSU is a Corsair HX1200i. CPU 9950X3D

I replaced the motherboard with an ASUS X870E Crosshair Hero (fewer rear USB-A ports, so I thought maybe MSI just had bad routing), but the exact same issue happens. Updated BIOS, installed the newest drivers, nothing changes.

Has anyone had this happen on X870E? Any idea how to fix it?

>>107280704
hey der8auer can i get a wireview pro 2 for free

Do scratches really matter? Won't the paste fill them up during use anyway?

>>107280693
>>107280669
The kryonaut/extreme is less than a year old. My temps are fine. What I'm worried about is pysical damage like in the op's pic.

>>107280738
heck, that happens on my assrock b650 as well
i'm just gonna assume its an amd thing save for 1-2 premium boards that officially supports usb-c 60W charging modes

>>107280751
you should be fine, i tried kyronaut and it left no scratches. you juat worry about the temps in the future.

I'm refreshing my PC, Currently have a 5800X3d and 2070S, will replace my PSU because it's 10yo at this point. Since I also want to rehouse on a smaller matx case, I was thinking of going SFX. Would the SF750/850 be a better pick than the new Lian Li SP850 Platinum?
Also for case, thinking of either the jonsbo Z20 or D32 PRO, considering I might move my pc some 3 time per year for lan parties.

Will the 9800x3d go down at all?

>>107280643
yes, Ampere works fine with PCI-e v3, you could even run it at x8 and it'll still be fine

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This thread has two sides like ex waitfags panic buying whatever they can seething they actually have to spend money for once and crying about RAM prices and the other side is people that already bought happily upgrading their monitors now that OLED are reaching affordable prices.

Waitfags we lost so hard

Kryonaut is for XOC unless you are pouring LN2 all over your motherboard you were never meant to be using it especially not with AIOs in gaming PCs of all things. Enthusiasts was just being dumb trying to use it for everything. This happens all the time.

>>107280953
no it was techtubers shilling this paste in their videos

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15 bucks adapter

>>107280977
why would you use sodimm on your desktop?

>>107280927
>buying whatever they can seething they actually have to spend money
I have to buy a new NVMe and it's killing me. $110 is $110.

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why shouldnt i get a prebuilt rn?
i know they’re AIDS but they’re selling
>I9-14900k
>4080 gpu
>32gb DDR5 ram
>1tb nvme
via wholesalers on eBay rn at cost (1600 shipped)

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>>107280988
Got them used, and i ain't spending 400 for a 32gigs kit.

Granted i am cucked at 4000 speed

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>>107281024
I thought my 5600MT CL38 was slow god DAMN

some dude bought 3 qd-oled monitors

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>>107281014
i should add that i already have a wuarter built gayming pc thats missing a mobo, processor and GPU
i mean i could get the prebuilt now at Black Friday prices and finish the other one later as the entire prebuilt would be the cost of the parts im missing

>>107280755
>i'm just gonna assume its an amd thing save for 1-2 premium boards that officially supports usb-c 60W charging modes
The X870E Hero supports 60W USB-C charging, but only through the front panel USB-C port. The front panel USB works fine, it’s the rear ports that have issues. Everyone keeps recommending AMD, but the stability is garbage compared to Intel’s ‘it just works’ setup

>>107281024
I thought 4800 was the minimum speed for DDR5

>>107281053
1st wave was 4000mt/s on laptop dimms I think, atrocious stuff and way slower than late ddr4

>>107281067
>>107281053
>>107281024
it doesnt fucking matter for 99 percent of usecases btw

>>107281072
it matters when it's below JEDEC standard
I have 5600 and I ran it at 4800 for couple years, no difference true.

>>107281072
you've never use a pc with ram with tight TRFCs then

>>107281072
you lose FPS in high refreshrate esports or tickrate in GSG

>>107281045
>everyone keeps recommending AMD but the stability is garbage
some things never change do they

>>107281045
That can't be happening everyone online said AMD had no more IO and USB issues

>>107281045
spot on. amd's cores are class leading but everything else in their SoC is very mediocre. intel is weirdly in the exact opposite situation for having crazy good I/O but the shittiest cores known to man

>>107281116
its a software issue not a hardware issue
you can have the fastest bing bing wahoo on the planet but it means nothing if the software its running isnt optimized for it

my case can take a 33cm gpu, which is humongous, but all XFX 9070 xt are bigger than that
that's fucking insane

>>107281116
I thought intel had stronger cores but they're just powerhungry as fuck

>>107281133
lion cove is admittedly pretty good, but the way its implemented in arrowlake, atrocious latency & no avx512, severely circumsizes its performance

>>107281151
what autistic usecase could you possibly be referring to here
and no, running benchmarks and rocket league is not a valid usecase

>>107281176
tell that to the millions of people who chose ryzen or raptorlake over arrowlake

>>107281116
>but the shittiest cores known to man
retarded redditor
raptor lake still competes with zen 5
arrow lake has higher IPC than apple m4

>laptop 5090 is 5% slower than a desktop 3080 and 5% faster than a 5060 Ti
>a mobile GPU for ultra high end laptops costing 4.5k to 5.5k euro
>5% slower than an old desktop GPU you can buy used for 350 bucks
>5% faster than a modern budget GPU you can buy new for 450 bucks
what the actual FUCK

I have a kit of 2x16 ddr4 3600mhz kingston fury RENEGADE ram cl 16. Is it worth the "risk" of getting another kit of 2x16 ddr4 3600mhz cl 18 kingston fury BEAST?
I realise i'll have to lower the cl 16 to cl 18 to make them work together, but i've heard that doesn't matter as much on a cpu with 3D cache like my 5800x3d? And should i be worried about mixing these kits in terms of compatibility?
My use case will be mainly gaming and some casual ai image generation, as well as dabbling in game dev

So mixing this : KF436C16RB1K2/32
with this : KF436C18BBK2/32

>>107281176
It was gaming and arrow lake's launch was terrible. It's in a much better state now with the updates and price cuts than a year ago, a year ago was awful, truly a disaster launch especially with the pricing.

>>107281192
40W per core

>>107281200
DDR4 usually handles mixed kits much better

i assume it's hard to be sure for anyone at this point, but will ssd's also go crazy in price? locally here it hasn't jumped yet at least and it even has a decent black friday sale now, or is it not related to ram prices in any way?

>>107281200
it'll run at 3600 cl18, but you might have to input the numbers yourself, xmp might not do it by itself

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>>107281223
YES!!

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>me checking DRAM prices

>>107281200
2x16 3600 can be anything
it could be dual rank rev B, rev E, CJR, DJR, B-die, D-die
it could be single rank rev B, MJR, CJR, B-die
buy it and see what happens

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>no ram restocks until next year at the earliest
>everything going up

>>107281210
my bad, i forgot this was the laptop building general

>>107281247
oxidation
vmin shift instability

>>107281214
>>107281231
>>107281240
Okay thanks, i guess i should just do it since it's the last kit that's still somewhat sane here. Worst case scenario i guess it won't be too hard to sell it again on the second hand market for a while now

>>107281247
Efficiency totally matters until it comes to idle power usage then efficiency doesn't matter at all that's what r/amd tells me

>>107281233
>>107281245
fucking hell, i really didn't feel like spending money right now but i've been wanting some more ssd storage for a while and it feels like the last cahnce to do so for a while now

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>>107281252
don't act like both companies aren't shipping out untested unreliable garbage
>>107281261
i have a 5800X in a home server and it uses like 17 W at idle
it's fine, it doesn't matter, there's no reason to care about power consumption on a desktop

What are the good 2TB nvme SSDs to buy the cheaper the better

>>107281281
your just being very dishonest saying that (balls to the wall OCed, death not withstanding) raptorlake competes with (stock) zen5
thats not how a fair comparison works

>>107281292
both are already balls to the wall OCed at stock
AMD is pushing more voltage than intel now but their boost system isn't retarded so it's not as dangerous for the chip

moore's law is dead said openai is hoarding all the ram, we should direct all our negative thoughts towards their incest rapist ceo

>>107281311
And this guy that's hustling at the expense of real buyers >>107281153 >>107281069

>>107281329
this guy is just an entrepreneuring nigger

>>107281245
Do you post there?
Could you ask if there are any plans to offer ram+mobos bundles?

>>107281348
being a middleman leech is not entrepreneurship, it adds no value to society

Give it to me straight. Is OLED a meme? I don't want to baby a monitor or change up my usage habits, and I spend 70% of my time looking at mostly static stuff, and the rest gayming and watching stuff.

>>107281351
so he's a banker/insurer

>>107281351
my point is he's just one little scummy mf and most likely contributes nothing to the increasing RAM prices

>>107281356
Tandem OLED looks promising so I'll wait

>>107281356
OLED niggers set their task bar to autohide and use everything in full screen to avoid UI elements burning in. That should clue you in as to how shitty the tech is for desktop usage. I'd only get OLED as a TV for watching content or playing vidja exclusively, never for desktop which has static UIs like browsers, office programs, etc.

Oh fuck yeah boyos, my new gpu is finally showing up on shipment tracking. Should have noticed that deal a day or two earlier and I would have had the card for this weekend.
Gonna be a bit of an upgrade from a GTX 960 4GB to a 9070 XT.

>>107281376
>GPU with no DLSS (forma de clásico)
>GPU with no DLSS (forma de nuevo)
I see no difference.

>>107281360
The bad news is its not just him, i saw a vid of some guy with a shopping cart containing the entire stock of ram in his local microcenter a few days ago

>>107281356
>and I spend 70% of my time looking at mostly static stuff
you do not need an OLED.
lack of glow may be worth it though, I don't think I can go back to any kind of LCD anymore

I don't notice Anime looking any better on my OLED phone screen than they do on my IPS PC monitor. The only benefit of the phone being OLED is the pixels on the pillarboxing turning off instead of glowing blackishgrey.
I don't think I would appreciate an OLED enough to accept living with a pitch black wallpaper and no desktop icons or start menu.

>>107281356
If you don't use it on 100% brightness all the time in desktop environment there won't be any problem at all. If you don't use your PC just lock it, so it'll send the monitor to sleep. It's not an extreme thing to take more care of your monitor. I use mine for 2 years now, nothing happened to it, it's perfect. Sometimes it happened that I used it remotely, and the lock screen with the time displayed remained a bit, then I ran the pixel cleaning and it fixed the picture.

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PC posts and can enter BIOS, but OS doesnt load and the BIOS sometimes freezes

What do you bet, is it mobo or CPU?

how about that latest ram price increase

>>107281452
reset cmos andor try to boot into safe mode

>>107281452
I bet you're on UEFI but the OS wants to boot in Legacy mode

>>107281452
It's ram you retard.

>>107281467
>>107281473
>>107281499
Reseted the CMOS
Switched around the two ram sticks through the slots
Tried to boot from USB stick
Tried without GPU too (using the iGPU)

PC was working fine until yesterday

>>107281511
Use only one DIMM at a time to see if the problem still occur.

>>107281517
Did that too

>>107281452
ghost came on your mobo

>>107281525
owari da then

>>107281511
clean it, remove the dust, specially around the cpu

>>107281535
Lets hope its the mobo, since I got it from a local store and it will be easier to RMA, since the CPU was from amazon

>>107281552
It's relatively clean, built the PC a ~month ago

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Im this >>107269483 here anon, ended up picking the LG 27GS75Q-B as the poverty tier monitor.
Im on a 3060TI and im happy that the first game i tried (KCD2) ran very well at 2k, about 100-120 fps while moving around the main city and it looks way crispier than my old screen.
Thats all, for 144€ i think i made a good purchase, maybe the legs are a bit too big for my little desktop, but it is what it is.
Next is saving to replace the 3060TI
Carry on anons.

Anyone still rocking with a 2500K?

>>107281625
I had a 4690k for almost 10 years, switched to a 5700x3d earlier this year

>>107281704
That's a huge jump in performance for sure.

>>107281737
yup, it's great, now I'm going from the gtx 1070 to the rx 9070 xt, it's been a good year

>>107281434
I watch anime on an old TN, I never really noticed a difference to my OLED phone either. Maybe if I look at them side by side.

I can't believe I bought a GPU under MSRP

>>107281749
I recently went from GTX 1070 + i7-7700K to 9070 XT + 9800X3D

>>107281803
nice, that's great

Why don't CPUs come with coolers any more they could at least throw one in

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Can anyone help me decide between these three (they're roughly the same price here)?

>>107281896
asrock kills cpus, gigabyte has 2 ram slots

If I have a 5700x (not 3d) and obviously ddr4 ram should I get a 5060ti or a 5070ti?

I mostly just want to do 1440p at high frame rates for as long as possible without fucking around with my hardware again. I'm just not sure whether my cpu is going to make the jump to the 5070ti not worth the price

>>107281868
I used stock cooler for my Ryzen 5 7500F for a while but it keeps reaching boiling point.
Ended up buying Phantom Spirit.

>>107281911
Define "high framerates". I have the 57X3D and I'm already thinking about upgrading (with a weaker GPU than what you want).

>>107281907
What even is the point of 4 memory slots on AM5 if you need to drop down to basically DDR4 speeds for it to be stable?

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>>107281911
>considering a 5060 Ti
>ever
Just get the Radeon equivalent at this point.

>>107281131
>my case can take a 33cm gpu
How small is your case? mine is pretty much as small as you get before hitting SFF territory and it can take 41,5 with enough fuckery. It's 2025 grandpa, GPUS are big. Also just buy a 5070ti poorfag, they're better performers and they're also all around 300mm because Nvidia knows how to make a card that isn't a heater.

>>107281896
MSI has sick slots for a mATX
check the bifurcation though

>>107281953
https://www.coolermaster.com/en-global/products/haf-xb-evo/?tab=tech_spec
it's not small, it's old, and making 35cm gpus is kinda crazy

>>107281205
>intel shills now in two threads in a row harping on how great Intel is now because of
>the pricing
YOUR CHIPS ARE UNDERPERFORMING STOVETOPS RETARD

>>107281925
Probably like 100+ at high settings for as many years as I can get away with.
>>107281950
I want to be able to make high definition AI anime girls if I choose. Which I won't. But the fact that I can't do it would bother me too much.

>>107281911
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYYVz4q-Rt8

Video features 5600x, rtx 5090, rtx 5080, rx 9070, rx 9060 xt.
No rtx 5070 or 5060 unfortunately.

It looks like the am4 x3d parts are hanging in there.
he non x3d parts look less good.

>>107281967
buy a new case old man

>>107281990
it's new, I bought it last year, there are no good horizontal cases anymore, and I'm modding the side panels to add 2x140mm each and the temps will be unmatched

>>107281984
5800X3D-bros we gonna make it till DDR6

>>107281974
Power draw doesnt matter on desktop because... it just doesnt okay??

MLID reports AMD has no ram, they never bought any, cards are cancelled
Microsoft have even less so xbox is even more dead if that's even possible
Nvidia has a stockpile because that's how they always operate but not enough for super series
Sony has shitloads of ram so much they can afford to slash PS prices for black friday

>>107281974
https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=3240880604
provide numbers

>>107281974
Yes retard pricing matters.
If you want to be a tourist and proclaim everything is an all or nothing race for gayming performance that's fine but PCs where always about weighing options.

>>107280657
My 12900ks does just fine with 6400.

>>107282036
>but not enough for super series
WAITKEKS LOSTED HUGELY BTFO AND NGMI

>>107282036
AMD is speedrunning 0% market share...

>>107282098
Why should they release the Super series for $1000 when they can sell the same chips for AI datacenters for $20000?

You are not the target audience.

>>107282036
sam altman will be going to jail in less than 2 months and the entire AI bubble will burst and all that DRAM that doesn't actually exist will go back to the sheets and be sold for real products that make money like gpus and phones
if you think the US will allow this joke to keep going because drumpf is a gangster go watch the enron or the 2008 documentary, bankers won't allow it to keep going

FUCK I BOUGHTED EVERY SINGLE PART AND STILL CAN'T CHOOSE A FUCKING CASE AHHHHHHHHHH

>>107282138
I bought my 5070 despite everyone telling me to wait for LE SUPAH 18GB VRAM for the same price in December. Then it got delayed to February. Now it's unknown, possibly cancelled due to RAM shortage. I won bigly.

>>107282152
But anon!!
CHINA!!!!!

>>107282154
Bro, your Nordic beauty??

>flash sale rtx 5070 for $260
huh

>>107282161
I think China can burst the bubble today if they want to, the market wouldn't survive another deepseek moment if it came right now, it would be a bloodbath

>>107282172
Where

>>107282154
Fractal Pop Air. Can't live without my Bluray drive
Would be happier if the drive is at the top

>>107282172
Garbage model & driver issues

>>107282184
>Bluray drive
hahaha lol!

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>>107282182
only for bongs but CCL are doing flash sales everyday on stuff at 7pm.
of course i imagine bots just buy everything instantly.

>>107282152
Banks are shoving AI into literally everything they can though, so are payment processors. For all the AI has no usecases people they seem pretty confident it its ability at detecting fraud. So why would they stop it? For all the people in the world AI does nothing for it actually makes them real money, or at least stops them losing it. But maybe Sam Altman will go to jail. He has played many companies against each other by striking secret deals with all of them. Jensen didn't know he was striking a deal with AMD for cards, the video of him being asked about it is pretty funny actually. The ram situation is the same, Samsung didn't know Altman struck a deal with SK Hynix too and both had no idea OpenAI was going to announce both deals on the same day. What's more likely is eventually these billionaires are going to get sick of him and hire a Luigi

>>107282203
Damn that's crazy
Wouldn't be surprised if they only sold 1 at that price though

AMD won they're using 2nm while Intel and Nvidia are stuck on 3nm

>>107282222
seems like a scam where they sell an unit to themselves to drive users to the site

>>107282222
probably exactly what they're doing.
still cool for whoever gets it i spose.

>>107282203
These things go in a heartbeat all the time
I tried last year for some 40 series cards I'd have to be a bot to stand any chance

>>107282224
smaller = better
Said no one.

>>107281452
>>107281511
sounds like ram issue from my experience. oc'd a pair of teamgroup sticks to death and was forced to run them at jedec speeds otherwise they would be too unstable for anything. try putting in a new pair.

>>107282318
Suffix Lake and Ampere all failed because they were using older nodes

REEEEE I DON'T WANT TO PAY $170 FOR AN SN850X

>>107282318
smaller nodes means more transistors per cm^2 of silicon wafer and more performance because of it while not jacking up the prices too much. there are also yields to consider, but if that lithography tech is used then it means it's fine.

>>107282336
I just bought a 990 Evo Plus, feels goodman.

>>107282356
I got my 2TB 990 Evo Plus 3 months ago for 150 euro how well did I do?

>>107282365
Costs the same here. I guess it's not overly expensive, but could be cheaper, especially because it's dram-less.

which module OCs the hardest, 6000c30 or 6400c32

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>>107282328
All Intel7 CPUs are still bought up by OEMs to the point where Intel is raising the prices to divert demand to their newer CPUs.
RTX 30 cards are not bottlenecked by the GPU. Most people are upgrading from RTX 30 cards because they want more VRAM.

>>107282401
it's all the same shit
except 6000CL26 1.4 V
i haven't checked ebay but i would assume 32 GB of that costs $1000 now

>>107282319
Doesnt work even at jedec speed

>>107282441
only worthwhile upgrade from 3080 is 5070 it, you get frame gen x4, at least 50% more perf and more in path tracing situations
it happens to have 6gb more vram but thats not the reason to upgrade

RAM
GPU
and
SSD

GET THEM BOUGHT ASAP

>>107282441
I told those 3060ti/3070 buyers they'd regret it

>>107282401
probably the c30, but the 2 kits are probably so close, it's impossible to tell. both in theory should be a-die, but both my 6000c30 kits are m-die, so just get whatever's cheapest.
>>107282460
swap ram then. get a kit from a friend to check for sure if its just the ram of just whatever shitsticks from the nearest store and then return them after checking.

https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/1991875449581080828
tic toc

>>107282483
They boughtered in 2020, it's been long enough.

>>107282499
It's not earnings. It's fraud and ponzi scheme.

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>>107282483
Radeon 12 or 16GB shit the bed in the settings that stress RTX 8GB cards anyway.
The 5060 Ti 8 GB is shitting on all the 12~20GB Radeon garbage when RT is enabled.

>>107282514
>fraud
>ponzi scheme
In the industry we call it "vibe revenue"

>>107282514
he's basically confirming if they didn't torture the numbers until they showed positive the market would be crashing harder than it is

>>107282520
It's taken way too long for Radeon to admit they need hardware RT cores. Can't believe Sony is the one to finally force them to do it, 7 years later. Just like it took them too long to make a decent upscaler. I just cannot believe they actually care about PC gaming.

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Ever since the Gamers Nexus ram video dropped prices have gone to the moon

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>>107282539
The Radeon brand attracts value buyers or poorfags who buy a new video card on a few occasions.
AMD listen to Sony because they're the gaming division's largest customer.

>>107282539
How did Radeon even get the contract to be on consoles? Did they just submit the cheapest bid?

>>107282470
>RAM
too late for that, bub

>>107282578
No one else can make cheap & performant SoCs (CPUs + GPUs).
Intel neglected GPUs; NVIDIA doesn't have a license to design X86 CPUs.

>>107282578
having 2 separate manufactures doing the cpu and the gpu on the 2000s consoles was a mess and they realized they needed 1 company to do both and that had to be amd

>>107282587
Well Nvidia wanted one and the entire industry teamed up to stop them. I wonder how this Intel/Nvidia partnership will work. They all say Nvidia is not a nice company to work with I just can't see it going well.

>>107282559
things are bad and they're probably going to be worse, so there is a possibility to flip the sticks on second hand markets to get some easy profits. it's the same shit that happened during the crypto boom.

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>>107282599
Intel & NVIDIA aren't cooperating to make low-margin gaming SoCs, gaming consoles are out of the question.
They're going to be in high-end laptops to compete vs. Apple.

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>>107282578
>sells one card
>12x the price of the whole console

>>107282629
These cards are gonna age and devalue like dogshit

>>107282623
How is it literally nobody cares about the console market? Even AMD only bother doing shit for them once Sony makes enough demands. The market is worth so much.

>>107282058
>Save 100 bucks on your card noone wants
>Spend 100 bucks on cooling solutions to keep it from assploding

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So I had a GPU-first sensing 12V-2x6 cable that was over 9.2A and as consequence would trigger the warning in GPU Tweak 3 Power Detector+. I saw recently the video here about bending the cable with the pins itself having some room of movement. Tried to push them all forward and see what would happen but I still got the 10A on one pin. Pulled them all back out and got a similar result. So I did something retarded and while the GPU was in idle I started tweaking the pins by pulling or pushing individual cables to see what it would change on the power detector afterwards testing with furmark under 600w load. After figuring the pin layout and whether to pull or push the cable I managed to get pic rel. This was a cable that previously hit over 10A. The whole connector is an absolute shitshow.

>>107282158
>12gb
Saved by buychadding, cucked by poorfagging

>>107282646
I still remember being shocked at how small they are with 600W written on it

Ive heard some nvme drives dont play nice on linux, can someone recommend me a decent cheap nvme to use for dual booting into linux ? or atleast, which ones to avoid ?

>>107282401
2x16gb 6000cl30 and 6400cl32 are the same thing. 2x32gb is also the same but it tops out at ~7200mhz
2x24gb 6000cl30 and 6400cl32 clocks upwards of 8400mhz+ but its sub and tertiary timings cant go as tight as the 16 and 32gb sticks can. 2x48gb is the same thing as well but tops out at ~7400mhz

>>107282693
Crucial T705
Crucial T710

>>107282678
I'll just get a new GPU when this one isn't enough anymore. I might be a poorfag still, but at least I'm a wagecuck as of a few months so I actually earn money and can afford to buy stuff. If in 3 years I can't play games on it anymore I can just donate it to my brother and get a new card.

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>>107282636
It's not a high-margin business, especially if they have to use newer TSMC nodes to design small & power-efficient SoCs.
NVIDIA's gross margins are above 70% atm. The big profits are in data centers & enterprise customers.
And NVIDIA can't make any X86 CPUs because Intel & AMD won't allow it.
https://www.techradar.com/pro/nvidia-almost-produced-an-x86-cpu-to-rival-amd-and-intel-but-was-forced-to-move-to-arm-due-to-certain-legal-issues

>>107282696
thanks, I'll get 32gb next month or when the prices come down, it's for a build I need to do before july next year only

>>107282712
>>thanks, I'll get 32gb next month or when the prices come down,
That's some optimism I haven't seen for a while in these threads

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>>107282646
yeah its a shit connector
after plugging it randomly for the first in my system, I saw the worst pin having like 3A while the best pin was pulling 14A
I managed to get it somewhat balanced by moving the psu side connector

>>107282706
Why don't Nvidia just buy Intel or AMD

Is it better to buy a 2TB or a 4TB ssd right now?

>>107282770
they couldnt even buy ARM, what makes you think they can buy x86?

also they're all still reliant on TSMC. they arent just printing more wafers out their ass.

>>107282806
4TB usually provides better value ($/GB).
Settle for a 2TB if you're already stretching your budget.

>>107282806
ask yourself, do you need the 4tb? very few people do

>>107282806
4tb

>>107282769
It's just pure shit and even properly connected it can fry itself without the user having done anything wrong cause of the tolerance of the pins inside the connector head. As mentioned I pushed all pins once forward and then on the second go pulled all backwards on both PSU and GPU. I had to tweak basically every pin on its own on both PSU and GPU to improve or make the connections worse.

>>107282539
radeon only exists to prevent nvidia from being accused of monopoly

>>107282770
They tried purchasing VIA, it turned out the x86 patent would be lost upon purchase.

if meme currencies and AI hadn't changed the market, what do you think GPUs would have been like in 2025?

>>107282843
radeon has x86 console monopoly
nvidia has x86 pc monopoly

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>>107282885
Radeon would love to be the one that gets to sell $2000 gaming GPUs.
They've tried to sell the 9070 XT for above $800 after all.

9700 xt beats the 5070 Ti is most benchmarks including RT ones, why are the shillvidians still posting?

nicotroon's been depressed since his avatarposting results in an immediate ban now

>>107282881
>gpu launches will be well stocked on release
>prices will still be high (because of tsmc jewing) but notably better since gpus are always well stocked
>decent gen on gen performance updates
>nvidia drivers will be far less buggy since their A team will be programming for geforce instead of AI accelerators

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is polartherm x10 better than kryonaut?

>>107282806
4TB is cheaper but you might be better off buying a 1TB+2TB instead of a 4TB even if you're paying more for fewer TBs.
OS on the 1TB, games/whatever else on the 2TB. Multiple drives means more performance.

>>107282826
In addition to this, you need to seriously consider the following.
Do you even fucking WANT 4TB on a single SSD?
What happens when you find out there's a firmware bug and you need to wipe the drive to update its firmware? Or if you have to reinstall the OS, or want to change.

4TB on a single drive can be nice but it can also be quite an inconvenience. Separate datasets on smaller capacity drives has its benefits. If this is already going to be a secondary/additional drive instead of a primary (os/boot) drive, then a 4TB SSD is a good idea if you think you'd like that much space.

>>107282934
its on par with arctic mx-6.
ptm7950 is still the endgame material.

>>107282901
Not even that long ago people were paying $2000+ for RTX 3090s.

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>Me when I realize amd lost and will soon drop out of the gpu market

>>107283125
The 7900XTX will last me long enough until I kill myself.

>>107282967
>mfw the hardware market is so fucked in my country that higher capacity drives are more expensive per GB

>>107282967
>>What happens when you find out there's a firmware bug and you need to wipe the drive to update its firmware?
i fucking hate SSDs

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I'm back from fitting the aio pump onto the socket.

ive got some old mx4, should I run that or the included thermal paste with my msi aio ?

>>107283267
Toss a coin. MX4 should be fine if the tube wasn't exposed to sunlight.

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>>107282967
I have a 7.68TB SSD
It's a WD SN200
Miss me with your buggy consumer shit

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>>107282559
I'm glad I bought in the beginning of October. I wouldn't have been able to upgrade if I had waited.

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9800x3d coming in today boys

finally will be building my pc

32gigs of ram 6000 cl30, 9070 xt, 2tb nvme along with a 2k OLED and a 1080p IPS

Lancool 217 case as well

>>107283560
Why did you only get 32gb?

>>107283573
because you don't need more than that and that's the stick that will overclock the hardest

>>107283578
>because you don't need more than that
Says who?

>>107283617
says microsoft. their best in slot windows gaming device is 24gb.

>>107283560
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/632JYd
pc part picker list

>>107283573
pretty much what this anon >>107283578
said

I bought my ram around a month ago and considered a 48gb kit, but even then their prices were too expensive while 32s hadn't skyrocketed as much yet in Newegg. 64 would be overkill for me, 32 is sufficient

>>107283633
16gb a-die runs tighter timings quite a bit better than 24gb m-die anyway so you'd only be paying for a performance downgrade with 48gb kits

>driverissuesvidia 50 series
4nm
>amd 90x0 series
5nm
imagine if they were using the same lithography.... I think for rdna5 they'll both be on 3nm n3p..., it's gonna be tough for badvidia...

LANCOOL 217
or Antec Flux Pro?

>>107283694
lancool 207 is better

>>107283690
rtx5000 uses 5N which is nvidia's custom N5 node
rx9000 uses N4 with is N5+

>>107283690
amd is still using gddr6 NON x
its like goku fighting with weighted clothes at the tournament

https://youtu.be/Bg_gJ4zNGPE?t=397

intredasting lmao nvidia

>>107283708
>N4 with is N5+
gpuz says its 5nm

>>107283680
I remember also reading about that, yeah. Whenever ram prices come down, I might consider an upgrade, but honestly, even 5 years from now 32gb will be more than sufficient enough probably

>>107283694
I just got a 217 and it's pretty good. Antec Flux Pro is bigger and has a bit more features if you need that (its also more expensive). Also the 217 INF is coming out soon, or check the case this anon >>107283702 recommended

>>107283694
Those aren't even in the same price bracket

>>107283729
They're in the wood bracket

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>>107283711
Because AMD decided that spending more GPU die area to add L3 cache is cheaper than sourcing GDDR7 chips.
Don't act like AMD is copying NVIDIA's GPU architecture with worse VRAM, that's not how this works.

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>>107281607
Im that anon
KCD2 seems to be crashing after a bit but it seems it stops crashing when i disable my undervolt on afterburner
Am i correct to understand that the 3060TI is working so hard now on 1440p that simply can't keep up while undervolted?
It was what a fairly conservative ulderovolt too, but... it is what it is

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>>107283747
amd saw the ram shortage years in advance. they stick with gddr6 because its much more available and cheaper than gddr7 or gddr6x.

again its like goku fighting with weighted clothes.

>>107283758
undervolt without manuall adding more clock

>>107283758
+190 GPU Core OC is not a conservative figure for RTX 30 cards.
Bring it down to +180, conservative would be +120~+150MHz.

RAM costs more than a 9070XT now.

>>107283768
>undervolt without manuall adding more clock
thats what i did the clock remained on "curve"

>>107283777
i thought that would be conservative, going by google, will try lowering it then
its 900 still the correct starting point?

>>107283783
CAN WE USE VRAM AS RAM?

>>107283767
>amd saw the ram shortage years in advance.
No, they didn't. AMD knew they won't get a better GDDR7 supply contract than NVIDIA.

>again its like goku fighting with weighted clothes.
No, it isn't. 9070 XT is using the full Navi 48 die with L3 cache that the 5070 Ti doesn't have at all.
NVIDIA decided to source GDDR7 instead of bloating up GPU manufacturing costs because the economics favor that decision.
AMD went the other way.
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/amd-navi-48.g1071
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-gb203.g1073

>>107283629
What are you talking about?

man, how did asrock botch the 9070 xt steel legend this hard? cooler has 7 heatpipes, card has consistently more complaints about hotspot and vram heat issues
meanwhile the xfx swift has 4 heatpipes and much better hotspot and vram temperatures across many posts on the internet
the pads and ptm they used are 100% garbage but it can't be just that, there has to be bigger structural issues with the heatsink design

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What are the reasons to get a noctua nhd-15 over a thermaltake peerless assassin?

It seems like the performance of the two are very close with the NH-D15 being slightly better. Is there any significant differences in reliability?

>>107283791
Voltage cap is totally up to personal preference.
The card runs more power efficiently if you lower the voltage.
800~900mV is the undervolting sweet spot for RTX 30 cards in terms of performance & efficiency.

>>107283813
nvidia cards have much more l2 cache, it's amd that is being cheap and using l3 here
>>107283824
noctua is a scam

>>107283824
I wouldn't run a PA on a 9800X3D or anything past 12th gen intelchips it should be fine for lower end

>>107283831
Doesn't matter how you cope.
Navi48's die has more transistors because they needed more on-die cache than any cut-down form of GB203s.
You can't cope against physics.

>>107283831
explain how they are a scam please

>>107283819
nice try xfx salesman

>>107283849
there was a time youd buy noctua for a premium to ensure you got pretty good perf, quality that lasts a long time, customer service
but that premiumw as like 30% maybe

now you have 150€ noctuas competing with 60€ air coolers and 100€ water coolers and you lack the value for money proposition

>>107283844
Why not? I'm thinking about getting 9800x3d or 9950x3d.

>>107283824
if it's just gaming you can get anything all core workloads you will need the D15-G2 with the offset or a 360mm AIO

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I'm just gonna get the 217 Infinity
vgh
the front panel is so gay

>>107283867
they are fine for a 9800x3d going by just about every single account of that combination in the internet

>>107283867
Anon is just being weird. Not sure why he's acting like the peerless assassin is some low profile cooler or a hyper212
It's as good as a noctua d15 which is enough to cool a 13900k at 253w and perfectly suitable for a 9800x3d

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>>107283897
but moving I/O to the top finally makes it worth it

>>107283867
Good luck.

>>107283897
This is so ugly compared to the wood one it's unreal

praying bestbuy or new egg or amazon do a sale for the zotac 5070ti. i dont wajt a rattling pny or a hot gigabyte card. maybe the base asus 5070ti is good but after having zotac for my last cars i wajt to go with them again

>>107283859
nevermind I was look at the non-xt version, amd nomenclature is so annoying

>>107283960
god it is fuck i just can't do it they're gonna make me spend $150 on a goddamn case why did the meshify 3 have to suck

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yup, 7 identical pictures, it's Zotac

>>107283986
kek

So can AMD gpus do slop or not?

>>107281911
Wouldn't a 5070 middleman work best in this situation?
https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/result/1fE1xO/ryzen-7-5700x/geforce-rtx-5070/2560x1440/

>>107283999
The new ones can just fine, just slower than their nvidia counterparts (vram also matters of course)

>>107284002
it would but some people still put vram over everything even a gpu that is 30% more powerful.

are the XFX magnetic fans any good are they a meme?

>>107282916
>9700 xt beats the 5070 Ti is most benchmarks including RT ones
Proofs?

>>107282916
No way it can since the 9700xt doesn't exist.

>>107284014
>>107284014
>>107284014

Thinking of picking up a 1440p qd oled. Ive been using a 1080p TN and want to bump up in resolution. Got a 9800x3d + 5070ti, this seems like it would struggle at 4k but do fine on 1440p for awhile, thoughts?

as for oled vs ips, I do alot of non-gaming stuff, general webbrowsing/shitposting here, static UI programs like DAWs, coding, blender, etc. Just how bad are oleds for non gaming/media uses? Im worried the text will be all fucked and get burnt in. how long should I expect an oled panel to last if im taking super paranoid care of it ? are all IPS a gamble on backlight bleed?

>>107284192
>Im worried the text will be all fucked
It will be
>get burnt in
Will eventually happen

So either get a second monitor or cope with mini led

Need assistance finding budget CPU in US, something preferably under/around 60$. Old GPU crapped out after years of service, need placeholder. Light office work and some gaming would be nice if it can run Rimworld.

>Computer board
Msi 760Gma-P34 Fx
>CPU
2011 AMD FX
>RAM
G.SKILL RipjawsX Series DDR3 RAM (XMP) 16GB (2x8GB) 1600MT/s CL9-9-9 1.50V U-DIMM (F3-1600C9D-16GXM)
>Power Supply
EVGA 750W
>Previous GPU
GeForce® GTX 1050 OC 2G(rev1.0/rev1.1)

>>107284407
Find a socket-compatible CPU on eBay.
https://storage-asset.msi.com/file/test_report/TR19_2887.pdf

>>107284407
>>107284579
Meant to say GPU, my bad bro.

>>107280257
Fuck I just bought Kyronaut paste, should I refund it?

>>107283777
>>107283830
Havent had a chance to try it again on kcd2 yet but ran a instance of heaven benchmark and the +200 was displaying slight artifacts (but didnt crash) while the +180 didnt have artifacts and also scored slightly higher, i will keep messing around with it

>>107284407
go to the new thread this one is dying and ppl wont check it

>>107280556
Use the PSU tierlist to find a decent one, not sure what the stores are in Deutschland desu. The motherboard you picked looks fine, only thing is no 5g ethernet/wifi 7 if that matters to you.