Should I use XFCE?

>>107326518
Is your computer from 1999, or do you want your computer to look like it’s from 1999?

>>107326518
Only if you're willing to move to something else after all of the dust has finally settled.
>>107326683
Unironically 2 modern 4 me.

>>107326518

A quick google shows you its fairly easy to made it look 'pretty'. Its not for everyone, but i enjoy the stability, speed and lack of clutter. I used gnome for about a week when i switched to linux, way too bulky for me and i didn't need all the bells and whistles.

Downsides, if you need wayland its still a way off but its coming.

chance of Steam OS making a comeback after Gabecube release?

>>107326766
It already made a comeback. A lot of people are willing to suck Gabe's cock just for SteamOS to be available on all PCs.
I wonder how much the SteamOS market share is going to jump when they release the GabeCube. It's already over a quarter of Steam Linux users and handheld PC gaming is a small niche.

>>107326350
Does anyone have issues with Realtek ALC897, i tried multiple distros live, all of them dont detect when a headphone is connected but they do detect the microphone, on windows i dont have this issue and audio works

alsamixer shows the card and its volume but it doesnt fucking work

Is there a modern media player that supports k-jöfol skins?

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sovl

I have a laptop connected by wireless, I connected the ethernet port to a tower and set in the GUI IPv4 settings "Shared with others"
Both have an IP and can connect to each other, I can ssh from the laptop into the tower, but I still can't access the internet from the tower.
How do I do that?

I dare anyone in sqt to make the following setup possible:

https://usesthis.com/interviews/rob.pike/

>>107326856
I have two machines with the 897 and reduced rear I/O jacks, and no issues on Arch, Debian 13 or Windows 10. Do you have firmware packages and ALSA profiles installed?
The 897 only "detects" headphones on the front panel jack, the rear output goes to line-out and you may need to switch ALSA profiles because they're all-or-nothing levels of retarded (if you need jack retasking, have fun kek).
Beyond that, check to see if your machine has Intel SST (some bullshit "solution" for HDA/HDMI mixed audio that causes problems even on Windows) and disable it.

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>install void linux on a virtual machine
>try to install steam
>libavcodec6-6.1.2_3: broken, unresolvable shlib 'libSvtAv1Enc.so.2'
it's tiresome
how the fuck do I fix this shit

>>107327235
STOP
USING
MEMES
is a good first step.

>>107327235
Don't install meme distros?

>>107326856
Some laptops do utterly retarded shit with audio firmware. Windows hardware problems.

This might be a silly question, but I enjoy ghostty a lot, I use it for almost everything, however since I program in nvim there's a few things that annoy me especially if I'm using a DE rather than WM:

I want to have nvim on my taskbar, and when I click it, it launches as any other app would and visually behaves as any other app would, meaning it opens an instance of the terminal/nvim and it highlights that on the taskbar to indicate it's active. At the moment, it activates my terminal on the taskbar which is FINE but then I can also tab between nvim and the terminal I typically have open. It's a 0.005% annoyance but it's every day.

Another thing is I have my ghostty config set up in a very specific way that requires me to resize it every time I open a new instance of nvim. I'd also like to add a shortcut in the context menu if I'm visually in a folder in dolphin.

I guess what I'm asking is should I just download kitty and have it exist solely as the driver for nvim and have a clear separation of concerns. Ghostty is my actual terminal, kitty is just the engine for nvim. Two different configs, slightly tighter control, and a taskbar difference. Am I retarded, should I just stick with one? Is there a way to have ghostty behave in a specific manner only if nvim is open?

>>107327235
Don't install Void if you are so braindead.

>>107327275
>Don't install Void
ftfy

Wouldn't it be nice if when a program crashed it didn't just disappear but popped up an alert box with a nice disgusting sound cue?

>>107327626
Sorry, not UNIX enough, we love our cores taking inscrutable dumps on the filesystem.

>>107327244
>>107327248
>>107327275
>>107327281
>anon doesn’t know how to fix it
Just say so next time lol

How are linux system/kernel dev and reversing jobs like in 2025/2026? I assume it’s more accessible than win32 jobs?

>>107326350
How the hell do i install Trinity desktop Environment on debian trixie? trying to wget the keyring just keeps giving me a 404

>>107327839
>win32 jobs
What's that, a handy from melinda gates?

Can I please get some recommendations for music players. Fairly new to linux after switching from windows and Spotify exclusively for the last 10 or so years.

After switching to linux and moving to a move local centric setup i've been re-building my collection locally, ripped a load of stuff etc.

Played around with Tauon, almost nailed it with the layout but the layout if janky a fuck, that's been the closest so far. Album art is a must as well as a 'albums by artist' view.

>>107327803
Just let me know that happened, when I'm running a program that's not attached to a console.
I suppose this should be the responsibility of the window manager, shouldn't it? It's the window manager that owns all the programs started under it as child processes, right?

>>107327969
>2 hours ago
Why so dead?

>>107328760
It's FREE HRT night at Nordstroms.

>>107327235
>installs a meme distro
>gets meme distro problems
Anon if you hate usability just install Slackware for the Real UNIX Experience™

>>107327626
That functionality exists. idk what does that but Ubuntu had it.
>>107326900
>I have a laptop connected by wireless, I connected the ethernet port to a tower and set in the GUI IPv4 settings "Shared with others
The laptop is using Wi-Fi and at the same time connected by wire to some other PC?
>Shared with others
So no Wi-Fi? I assume that's supposed to set up a thing called "masquerading". Study it, it's impossible to start explaining all that here.

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>>107326883
took me a while but I found them in better quality

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>>107327969
>wget the keyring just keeps giving me a 404
this one worked for me
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Debian_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Instructions

if it still doesn't work here you go
https://files.catbox.moe/3zxlyl.deb

>>107329695
just gotta slap that on my USB right? how do i use it once plugged in, run the same command?

>>107329724
No nigga you rename the deb to trinity-keyring.deb and run
deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-r14.1.x trixie main deps
sudo dpkg -i trinity-keyring.deb
sudo apt-get update
sudo aptitude install tde-trinity

gentoo btw

Who actually watches Learn Linux TV's content? I like what the guy does and wish him the best with his business but shit dude, how many fucking videos can you put out about the same exact fucking thing with one minor change? No one needs an hour video on setting up fucking nextcloud.

>>107329862
nixos already won.

Is it just me, or is Plasma 6 using up far more resources, or maybe something else in Arch changed? I remember times in Plasma 5 on Arch where the whole system with just a couple of basic services running and no applications open it would use up somewhere around 500MB of RAM.
Did a fresh install on a new laptop and now it's closer to 2GB.

>>107331068
Who cares kde troons need to operate their dick off and wear dresses.

>>107331087
kys nigger
The last time I used Gnome it had severe memory leaks. Being centered around fags today makes it even less viable as a replacement.

So I'm trying out Fedora Kinoite in a VM and christ layering packages is something Atomic Fags really gloss over. It's a 2 minute ordeal that requires a reboot to install a single package. How the fuck do they think this is fine?

>>107331223
>It's a 2 minute ordeal that requires a reboot to install a single package.
>How the fuck do they think this is fine?
Because you'd normally install packages in bulk rather than installing one by one and rebooting between each? Also, most people either don't layer anything or layer up to 5 things in total. So this issue is something people will only encounter once or twice, if ever.

Is it fine? Yes. Should it be faster? Also yes.

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>>107325293
>No carrier means the cable is not attached or damaged, or the NIC is unable to link up likely due to hardware failure.
What the fuck do I even do then? Reinstall artix? Install a different distro?
Is it a problem with my laptop? In that case there's nothing I can do, is there?

>>107331396
2 minutes for a single package caught me off guard because I don't usually shove all the packages I want to install into a single command like I'm not normally the type of go sudo dnf install htop fastfetch ncdu podman and so on. So I did rpm-ostree install htop and after the first minute and it still not being done I was actually confused and thought it was broken.

Then when I tried to run htop and discovered "oh you need to reboot for that" I was even more confused and came here.

>>107331515
rpm-ostree is effectively creating a custom system update for you. And Fedora Atomic is set up like Android where you need to reboot to apply a system update because of A/B partitioning. It's a much better way to handle system updates&changes, but it can definitely be confusing at first.

>>107326518
still no nightlight. I'm sticking with cinnamon

>>107331636
Honestly I only see a couple major downsides with it, but I don't know how fixable they are:
1. Flatpak Filesystem Bloat. You're installing an entire extra set of runtimes just for Flatpaks to use. I only use 4 Flatpaks on my desktop (Vesktop, Spotify, OpenMW, ProtonUp-Qt), but I've got 9 GB worth of runtimes installed just to run those 4.

2. The other Flatpak issue is Flatpaks can't really follow custom KDE themes very well in the way natively installed programs can. Install a custom KDE theme, like Amy Dark, and suddenly it's very obvious which programs are Flatpaks.

3. The slowness of layering. As I mentioned, it's slow as shit, and as soon as you encounter a GUI program that doesn't have a Flatpak, you're stuck waiting 2 minutes to make a layer followed by a reboot.

>>107331754
>The other Flatpak issue is Flatpaks can't really follow custom KDE themes very well in the way natively installed programs can
Is it Qt framework dependency hell?

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Artix won't let me use wifi, what distro should I try next?

>>107331760
Sandboxing means it can't access your custom themes. You can *kind of* override this in the command line, but it doesn't always look right.

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>>107331760
Here's a great example, native Qalculate! on the left, Flatpak Qalculate! on the right. It's extremely obvious, like being able to tell a tranny is a tranny.

>fedora 43
>everything is fine for couple of months
>update nvidia-open to the latest week or so ago
>suddenly get complete machine freeze (picture is still displayed)
>NVRM: Xid (PCI:0000:01:00): 79, GPU has fallen off the bus.
NVRM: _threadNodeCheckTimeout: API_GPU_ATTACHED_SANITY_CHECK failed!
It's hard to say is this because of the new driver or some other thing what might have been updated in the process. I'm also pretty sure my gpu is still attached properly...

>>107331754
>You're installing an entire extra set of runtimes just for Flatpaks to use
Unfortunately there's no better way to distribute software onto end user devices. Shared system libraries are definitely not the way to go outside of controlled environments like servers and IoT.
Appimage is another decent option, but it has the same package size issue (if not worse).
>I only use 4 Flatpaks on my desktop (Vesktop, Spotify, OpenMW, ProtonUp-Qt), but I've got 9 GB worth of runtimes installed just to run those 4.
Yep, it's pretty shit in that case. But if you had around 50 of them you'd probably only have 15-25 GB worth of runtimes. Which realistically isn't a lot. You can fit 3 times as much data onto a $5-$7 USB drive.
I really don't see "filesystem bloat" as a real issue considering this is how all other operating systems behave, storage is really cheap, and gamers are provided with the same experience when using Proton (each installed game usually has it's own 500MB wine prefix).

>The other Flatpak issue is Flatpaks can't really follow custom KDE
Fair. I personally don't care about UI consistency between software, but I can see how this would be annoying to some people.

>as soon as you encounter a GUI program that doesn't have a Flatpak, you're stuck waiting 2 minutes to make a layer followed by a reboot.
To be fair, a lot of GUI software has an Appimage and most CLI software has a brew package. Distrobox is also an option in some cases.

>>107331760
No, I believe you have to install a Flatpak package of the theme you're trying to use? Not sure since it's been years since I've used anything but the default KDE theme.

>>107331762
Try reading the Arch wiki to learn how to configure things like this for yourself.

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>>107326350
>oracle

>>107331873
It just feels really weird that Homebrew is the only real way to install CLI tools effectively. Toolbox isn't really applicable for something like htop, for instance.

Actually, why is htop not installed by default?
>inb4 use GUI tools
No

>>107331941
Because they have btop and it's much better

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>>107326350
newfag low iq here, just installed mint cinnamon
everything fine until noticed the driver manager gpu drivers were outdated particularly the "recommended"(in green)
so i decided to download the latest ones from the gpu website, but the installation was extremely slow, so ended up back to the driver manager and installing from it, but it was the latest one of the list not the "recommended" one
so i'm still wondering if i should have installed the recommended, bc been read that the latest ones aren't always the best in linux for compatibility and stuff
so what do i do?
install the recommended even though it's older, or just stay with this until i find a problem or something?

>>107331985
btop isn't installed by default either, Anon.

>>107331997
>the latest ones aren't always the best in linux for compatibility and stuff
That's because Mint is directly based on Ubuntu 24 LTS. So it's not getting the latest system packages which drivers sometimes interact with. Hence why a driver version from 2024 would be the recommended one.
Installing a more recent driver, especially through a website, just introduces the risk of dependency hell when you update Mint to the next version.

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>>107331887
Configure what? Wpa_supplicant failed, networkmanager starts but remains inactive and connecting via gui and googling the error online just leads me to everyone suggesting that it must be a hardware issue. I just tried with cli version of connman and it just gives "input/output error" and the wiki has no entries for that when I ctrl + f for it.

Now I suspect the real reason you posted this was because you were waiting for me to say no to your suggestion so you could reply with a gotcha.
That's right, I don't feel like reading every wiki page for every network manager I have installed, only for it to not work because the issue is something completely different unrelated to anything it says on the wiki. Go on, laugh all you want, I'm not reading your gay wiki after all this.

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What's the coolest, most based distro I can install that won't randomly break my shit and prevent me from using wifi?

>>107332091
Well first you should make sure that only one network manager is running. Then pick ONE, read the wiki and set it up correctly. If your wifi hardware isn't broken then any network manager should work.

>>107332027
The fuck? It's weird for the Universal Blue team to include it in their images when their target audience are mostly less technical people who wouldn't use the terminal. Fedora is very popular among developers so it's odd that they don't include anything other than top. I guess the assumption is that you'll only use the GUI.

>>107331427
>wifi
If the radio is turned off with a physical switch or rfkill that would explain the no carrier.
Also, googling "thinkpad x200 wifi switch" shows a bunch of people talking about fixing theirs, I suspect you have the same problem, the radio is locked off.

>>107332128
Windows is the most stable operating system during these dark, trying times.
Everything else is just a toss and will break eventually because everything else relies on thousands of little freetard dependencies which are getting updated every single week. Insanity.

>>107332243
>most stable
lmao

How to set up two machines running linux to communicate directly over ethernet temporarily ?
I just need to transfer some files since both machines have 2.5 GbE.

>>107332128
any fedora atomic image because you can revert any system update that breaks your wifi

>>107332277
Sure thing, defend your freetard bullshit. Maybe it's great for you because you are running some outdated Xeon (or Thinkpad laptop) without a decent GPU. Only work what you are accomplishing with your machine is listening to music, browsing the web or writing some scripts with vim. Not much of a stability or even a computing challenge.

>>107331795
Just share .config/kdeglobals as ro to flatpak

>>107332243
Using windows won't make me feel special and all these hours I've spent learning linux commands will have been for nought.
>>107332311
Thanks, I've always wanted to try fedora.

>>107332242
I already found the switch and turned it on thoguht, it still doesn't work.

>>107332332
It's not much of a hurdle to learn few commands.
You could always install cygwin on Windows if you miss typing 'ls' so much.

>>107332035
that's mean the drivers always will be outdated?
i mean my gpu is old and gay but still

>>107332374
>that's mean the drivers always will be outdated?
Yes, just like all your system software. That's just how it is when you're using an LTS distro. These are made for people who don't want changes or feature updates.

>>107332374
How gay?

>>107332279
Connect both machines with a UTP cable and use their IPv6 link-local addresses.

Alternatively, assuming you don't have NetworkManager or something else interfering, then on machine A do:
# ip a add 192.168.25.1/32 scope link metric 1 dev enpXs0
# ip r add 192.168.25.2/32 src 192.168.25.1 scope link metric 1 dev enpXs0
And on machine B do:
# ip a add 192.168.25.2/32 scope link metric 1 dev enpYs0
# ip r add 192.168.25.1/32 src 192.168.25.2 scope link metric 1 dev enpYs0
Replace enp*s0 with the interface for each machine. This will add two static addresses and routes for them until you reboot (or delete them).

You may also need to manually bring up the interfaces.
# ip l set enpXs0 up

>>107332315
Would you mind going and posting somewhere else? Thanks

>>107332477
You can't handle the truth.

>>107332395
so is ubuntu better for gaming/gpu stuff if i have a good pc/ plan to upgrade my hardware in the future?
do you recommend other distro?

i don't want to go back to windows never again

>>107332432
Both machines are running the latest arch-clones.
So it had NetworkManger, but I think both are connected to wifi with their NIC.
So would this work too?

ip addr show
enp0s31f6: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel state DOWN group default qlen 1000
    link/ether 6c:4b:90:a4:37:3a brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    altname enx6c4b90a4373a

Does this provide any helpful info?

>>107331851
That XID is a pain in the ass to diagnose, can be both software or hardware.

In your case sounds like software, i'd roll back the driver version and see what happens.

>>107332497
If you have two 2.5GbE NICs you can just plug the same cable into both and use the IPv6 link-local addresses. That's the purpose of those addresses.

I'm not sure why you're mentioning WiFi or what that output is for, the MAC address shown is for a LiteON device, I don't think that's a 2.5GbE controller.

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>>107332578
There is only Arch, Debian and RHEL, everything else is a meme.

>>107332544
You're right.
It's just one device that's 2.5 GbE the other is 1 GbE.
>I'm not sure why you're mentioning WiFi
Because I want the machine to be able to access the internet wireless over WiFi, while still being able to transfer data over the ethernet.

>>107332606
>It's just one device that's 2.5 GbE the other is 1 GbE.
That's fine, it'll just be a 1GbE connection then.

>while still being able to transfer data over the ethernet.
Routes or link-local addresses take care of that.

>>107332593
I think you mean Fedora, RHEL is the biggest meme of them all.
>>107332496
Anon just use Fedora, your drivers will be up to date that way. They do a new release every 6 months and each release is supported for 13 months.

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>>107332578
what u mean
i don't get it

>manjaro.org has an expired SSL cert again
lol

>>107332619
Thanks man.
Because I control these machines over WiFi with SSH, so I thought I'd plug both and control it remotely.
Would this work as well?
Do I need to modify anything else after finishing or just rebooting would take care of this?

Gnome gay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v243f4RCcpk

>>107332645
I see no reason why it shouldn't work, assuming there are no routing conflicts. I'd advise just using the v6 link-local addresses.
And unless you configure static addresses with NetworkManager, systemd-networkd, or some config file somewhere, they will be gone once you reboot.

>>107332658
Hahaha oh wow.

>>107332634
How are the Manjolorians worse at managing SSL certs than anybody else in the world?

>>107332673
I see, and
>Connect both machines with a UTP cable and use their IPv6 link-local addresses.
How would this work? or how to use?

>>107332513
>Xid 79
Official explanation is that it could be anything what prevents PCI-E access.
Those two crashes happened when my machine was idling, I was reading a text file and had a web browser open.
Yeah, thing is that I didn't update anything after I installed 580.105.08-1.fc43 nvidia-open (it came with kernel update and other stuff too).
I did a new update and it recompiled the modules and for now the log seems to be clean and I haven't had any issues. Not really sure why exactly. Because as far as I know, I have always been very careful about what to install and how.
I'm still somewhat paranoid- does this machine install some updates behind my back but this should not be possible.

>>107332496
Ubuntu is not really focused on desktop at the moment. A more ideal distro for gamers would be Bazzite or anything Fedora-based. Or, you know, you could just buy the Steam Machine when it gets released early next year. SteamOS is just a slightly worse Bazzite but it's still better than Ubuntu and Mint.

>>107332711
Link-local addresses are assigned automatically and only valid across a link. They're the ones starting with "fe80::". Use those to connect.

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>>107332623
>>107332735
ok, thanks, fedora sounds good because of the updates stuff, but ubuntu is probably more stable and like mint, but kinda better because more updates and stuff but also less stability?
honestly, i'm going to research more because i realize i don't know shit, but for now i'm going to stick with mint until decided to upgrade my pc or something happen

What are some good distros for my sister? She wants something that looks like Windows 98 or Windows 7, and mainly uses her PC to play indie games. I'm willing to set some shit up like drivers or whatever but it should be self-maintaining going forward.

>>107326350
OK I installed Linux Mint. Now what?

>>107332767
So I just connect both machines and it get IPv6 automatically??
And I can use that to communicate between the two machines?
Don't I need to modify ssh/rsync/smb to use it?

>>107333132
>So I just connect both machines and it get IPv6 automatically??
Yes, by design.

>>107333042
Anon, "stable" is just a corporate and software dev keyword which is short for "stable package versions". Which just means
>this platform will not change for at least 2 years so our sysadmins and developers won't have to recompile and redeploy software/servers every month or two. Instead we can have a major software migration once every 2-8 years.
It has absolutely nothing to do with the commonly used meaning of stability, ie lack of bugs and crashes.
It's just a term used by people who are in the market of staying on the same OS version for years. It's similar to how businesses are using Windows XP/7 and Ubuntu 12/14/16 today. As a desktop user this is probably not what you're looking for.

>>107333173
And how to know which IPv6 address to ping?
and if it didn't work how to enable this?
Sorry for the stupid questions, but I'm not finding anything on the arch wiki.

>>107333070
>muh games
>self-maintained
>looks like windows
bazzite with kde. you can also install one of those global win7 or winxp themes kde has. but this is assuming she won't mind the fact that modern software won't really look like winxp and win7 software and will not match the overall window manager theme.

>>107333113
use it

>>107333219
>And how to know which IPv6 address to ping?
"ip address show" (or just "ip a") will show all addresses on the local machine including the link-local addresses of each interface. Just use it from the other machine.

>>107333241
AeroThemePlasma doesn't install on immutable distros, plus sandboxing means apps will ignore your theme anyway.
>>107333070
Q4OS maybe?

>>107333359
>AeroThemePlasma doesn't install on immutable distros
Se7en and ExposeAir are available

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>>107333661
Dude those look like ass

>>107333695
Aero looks like ass in general

>>107333732
Maybe, but that is the assiest Aero you can get, whereas AeroThemePlasma looks like the ass it's meant to be.

Is it possible to configure the terminal so that the up arrow doesn't scroll through multiple identical invocations of the same command? I feel like I have used systems configured like that before, but mine isn't.

Windows 7 aero glass theme is my favourite desktop look of all time.

>>107333113
Apply updates, enable ufw

>>107327235
i messed around with Bazzite but ultimately realized that all you need is Arch or Fedora (for access to latest kernel GPU drivers) if you want Linux gaming

>>107334197
>all you need is Arch or Fedora (for access to latest kernel GPU drivers) if you want Linux gaming
Then why does Steam only support Ubuntu?

>>107334231
>Then why does Steam only support Ubuntu?
Nigga, SteamOS is Arch-based.

>>107334231
wdym Steam runs flawlessly on Bazzite, Arch (and its derivatives like CachyOS) and Fedora

>>107334231
Because it was the standard desktop distribution over a decade ago and most distros were based on it.

Is there any program (file manager?) that display thumbnails in an immich/google photos way that is totally local to the device without a server/client setup?
I already have an immich server which I use for personal photos. But is there a program I can use to look at my whole Pictures folder without having a second machine/docker (or Google) in the mix?
I'm mainly talking about the folder page where it displays the files in nice squared off, compact, thumbnails without file names etc busying it up.

>>107334231
Because every distro worth mentioning will package and support it themselves for free anyway.

There is Steam packaged in the Arch repos:
https://archlinux.org/packages/multilib/x86_64/steam/

Why does Valve need to support that for you when your distribution is already doing all of that work to integrate it into their system of doing things.

Are e-cores still bad on linux when it comes to gaming? I have a 12th gen i5.

>>107334592
They're bad period. They will never be good. These are gimped cores that are much slower than the performance cores. On a laptop that might make sense, but not on a desktop.

>>107334603
But what do I do then? Just disable them in the bios?
I regret getting this CPU but it was the best deal I could find.

>>107334612
Just let the OS schedule them and do nothing unless you notice problems.

If you know the physical topology then you can pin processes to the P-cores but this is likely to be worse than just letting the scheduler do it's thing and under high CPU usage then there's likely no way to avoid processes sometimes being scheduled on e-cores anyway (unless you pin them).

>>107334651
>>107334612
Also keep your Linux kernel version up-to-date as Intel is still making fixes, etc. Don't use an LTS kernel.

>>107334231
Because every major version of every Linux distro is a different OS with its own user ABI, and Steam picked Ubuntu as the reference because it was the most popular at the time. You can load Ubuntu shared libraries and it runs the same on any distro and it runs just as well because the Linux kernel ABI is standard across all of them. Every distro's steam package is Ubuntu libraries and maybe some extra fonts or whatever.

>>107334679
Yes, I'm on Fedora. 6.17.8-300.fc43.x86_64
>>107334651
Well, I can't for sure diagnose what the cause is but I'm trying out a game called "Where Winds Meet" (the engine is some heavily modified UE5) and I get heavy stutters when I move fast in areas with a lot of NPCs. I booted into my W11 23H2 and that doesn't happen there (with e-cores enabled).
I thought it could be the shaders being processed, after some search I found that adding __GL_SHADER_DISK_CACHE_SKIP_CLEANUP=1 to the startup options help a lot with it but it didn't eliminate it.
Like you said, trying to pin the game to the p-cores with WINE_CPU_TOPOLOGY="12:0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11" taskset -c 0-11 doesn't do much (the game has no benchmark option so I have to eyeball it while moving from a predetermined A to B point) I think it improves a bit but disabling the e-cores in the Bios raises the stuttery sections from 43 FPS to about 50.
I wasn't expecting an improvement that meaningful, and ideally I'd prefer to leave the e-cores active (because I paid for them) which is why I made my first question, maybe I'm just missing something and there are better ways to schedule the cores or something other than setting the topology on wine.

>>107334883
Directx12 does not work that well in Linux. It's 10-30% slower than on Windows.
Using the latest proton-ge could help, or not.
Engine.ini tweaks help a lot too.

>>107334679
>LTS kernel
What does that even mean? 6.12? 6.6? Besides all those older branches still get weekly updates.
>e-cores
What's the oldest branch that supports them?
>>107332767
>>107333132
Although some software may not recognise the fe80::blah%interface -format because of the percentage sign.
Use:

ping ff02::1%interface

to get replies from the local link, replace "interface" with the actual interface name.

>>107334970
>some software may not recognise the fe80::blah%interface -format because of the percentage sign.
It's not required, the address alone is sufficient most of the time.

>>107334970
>Besides all those older branches still get weekly updates.
They get bug fixes. What they don't get is risky new scheduler changes from Intel that COULD fix things but could also have an immaterial impact on performance.

>>107334970
>Although some software may not recognise the fe80::blah%interface -format because of the percentage sign.
There is a really clever workaround for that. You can add:

ff02::1%interface MYHOST.local

to /etc/hosts and then use the hostname and since the app will use the systems stack to resolve it to an address and connect to it then it will work anyway even if its shitty IP address validation library doesn't recognise it as a valid IPv6 address.

>>107335051
>ff02::
That's a multicast address retard, you don't need any of this shit for unicast, just use the link-local address.

>>107334991
>It's not required, the address alone is sufficient most of the time.
Never seen that happen lmao
>>107335006
Right. Besides when working with e-cores isn't the userland supposed to know something about them? You know like assigning e-cores to some specific processes or something?
>>107335051
Totally didn't know that, thanks.

>>107335073
That's just an example (not my example). You could use any link-local address in /etc/hosts, it doesn't care.

>>107335080
>Right. Besides when working with e-cores isn't the userland supposed to know something about them? You know like assigning e-cores to some specific processes or something?
Userspace is not supposed to handle scheduling. The OS kernel is supposed to do that because it knows best about all of the heuristics and past behaviour that it's tracking and can use to decide "This process isn't really doing much, it can probably go on an e-core".

It's hard to get this right though. There are things like eBPF schedulers that allow you to hack the scheduler code and make your own scheduling decisions if you know what you're doing. For example:
https://github.com/sched-ext/scx/blob/main/scheds/rust/scx_bpfland/README.md

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>>107334252
>>107334259
>>107334362

>>107335203
>Valve don't support Arch, which is why SteamOS, which comes with Steam pre-installed, is Arch-based
Your brain is mush

>>107335234
Then why does the Arch wiki say that?
And how come my Steam installation has installed a bunch of libararies in

~/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_{32,64}
[/code ]

>>107335335
>why does the Arch wiki say that?
Are the Arch wiki Valve? No? Then who gives a fuck what the Arch wiki says?

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Thinking about trying pop os because windows is ass. Anything to consider with an nvidia gpu? I heard its not too insane for a windows babby

>>107335398
Use Arch or Ubuntu. Avoid meme distros.

>>107335335
>

~/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_

i have that on arch, so it's not a ubuntu specific thing.

>>107335203
>Don't turn to Valve for a problem with your distribution
No hecking way! You should file a bug report with your distribution instead.

>>107335335
That's their Steam runtime that's based on Ubuntu. You can use the native runtime that uses OS libraries but some Linux native (Proton don't care) games that depend on Ubuntu quirks may not work right with that.
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/steam-native-runtime

>>107335424
But Arch and Ubuntu both are meme distros.

>>107334603

are these same cores that are about as fast as 4 gen intel cores

>>107335435
Well yes, that's my point.

>>107335452
>that's based on Ubuntu
Exactly.

>>107333695
>Tiny fonts
>Inconsistent padding

>>107335472
Something like that. These are efficiency cores because Intel had the great idea of "What if we had low power cores to compete with ARM so laptops don't suck power anymore"? Completely irrelevant and useless in a desktop.
>>107335477
>>that's based on Ubuntu
>Exactly.
None of this matters to you as a user unless you're a developer developing native Linux games. It's completely hidden away and only there for legacy compatibility.

>>107335424
Arch is way too much shit to set up and tinker with for a noob, ubuntu might be an option though.

>>107335477
it works on arch, so what exactly is your point?

>>107335491
>>107335477
More background for this runtime in case you're curious:
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-runtime

It's Valve's SDK for developers. Its existence is irrelevant to end-users as they use containers (Pressure Vessel) nowadays to guarantee the same consistent experience regardless of your underlying distribution. Even on Ubuntu itself it uses these libraries and not your hosts.

>>107335518
>Even on Ubuntu itself it uses these libraries and not your hosts.
They learned from the libc debacle.

>>107335501
My point is that it's not officially supported by Valve.
Just like running Windows games on Linux is not supported by the game developers. Even if it works some times.

>>107335588
They support their container runtime. If containers no work on your distro then that is a distribution issue, your distro developers must fix that. There is nothing Valve can do about it.

>>107335518
>hey use containers (Pressure Vessel) nowadays to guarantee the same consistent experience regardless of your underlying distribution.
Essentially Valves version of the same idea as flatpak?

>>107335604
Yes. Pressure Vessel the tool they use for this was even based off of Flatpak's Bubblewrap sandbox and they stripped it down to just what they need for Steam.

Any reason to not just use cachy os for gayming?

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>>107334970
>What does that even mean?
Pic related
>Besides all those older branches still get weekly updates.
These are critical bug and security fixes, not any feature updates or changes. In very rare cases does an LTS kernel get hardware support improvements, hence why the anon recommends a non-LTS kernel.
The "stable" kernel is what most people should use on desktops.

>>107335398
PopOS is abandonware until they finish working on CosmicDE. Just use regular Ubuntu or Mint if you want a Debian-based OS.

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>>107335588
>it's not officially supported by Valve
Valve does not officially support the software they develop and are shipping on their own operating system, which is also named after said allegedly unsupported software? I'm not in the mood, just kill yourself.

>>107335588
either it works or it doesn't. if it doesn't work then it doesn't matter how "supported" it is and if it does work then who gives a shit? Every linux can be made identical by swapping out shared libs, there is nothing preventing arch packagers from continuing to port it forever. and even on a distro where it's "supported" there can be temporary breakage.

>Xid (PCI:0000:01:00): 79, GPU has fallen off the bus
Seems like there are plenty of people having issues, even with slightly older nvidia drivers. Seems like one solution is to replace nvidia-open-dkms with nvidia-dkms and disable GSP firmware.
>https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules/issues/739
There are more threads than this example... I don't know if I want to bother with this. Maybe next time if it still happens. What a shitshow.

>>107336254
>open-gpu-kernel-modules
Last I checked, NVIDIA's open source still has a way to go. The closed drivers are still superior, unfortunately.

>>107336332
Oh really? I thought nvidia-open was always recommended because the normal drivers are supposed to be on their way out any moment now.
Maybe I should just replace them with the regular nvidia package altogether.
This explains a lot I guess.
I still need to investigate my hardware, I can't rule out a physical issue but I'm still ~99% sure that's not the case. This only began to happen after I installed the latest drivers one week ago.

People are paing lots of money for the hardware and their drivers are like this... Disgusting.

>>107336386
>paying

I just upgraded from Kubuntu 25.04 to 25.10 this morning and my little reminder bash script stopped working. The script would normally send a notification with a button, wait for it to be clicked and then sleep for a given time, all within a while loop until I CTRL+C in the console.
The notification line in question is
> notify-send --app-name="$APP_NAME" --urgency="critical" --action="btn1=$BTN_LABEL" "$MESSAGE")

After the upgrade there's no button, instead there's a console message that says:
>Actions are not supported by this notifications server. Displaying non-interactively.
I checked the journal and this shows up when notify-send runs:
>apparmor="DENIED" operation="dbus_method_call" bus="session" path="/org/freedesktop/Notifications" interface="org.freedesktop.Notifications" member="GetCapabilities" mask="send" name=":1.31" pid=5800 label="notify-send" peer_pid=2233 peer_label="plasmashell"

I have no clue how to deal with AppArmor yet, what should I give permissions to here? To the script itself or to some element mentioned in the warning above?
Or is this the kind of weirdass bug I should wait until it gets patched later on?

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>>107336386
I switched to AMD awhile ago, but I still have a OPTIMUS card in one of my rigs. For my use, akmod-nvidia is the goto. Check it out.

>>107336631
I was confused at some point, I always thought Noveau was the one which was to be avoided and nvidia-open was the latest (eg. the best).
All taken care of n

Suddenly my gentoo system had perl slot conflicts when I run --update --deep --newuse @world as a sanity-check, thinking it would do nothing. What gives? I run perl-cleaner --all and it did nothing - then I run emaint -a sync and issued the update again, this time it didn't whine about conflicts but it rebuilds perl and all its dependencies. Currently compiling that shit...
WHY?? The error said that perl 5.42 conflicts with installed 5.40 and listed billion lines of perl dependencies

>>107336773
I would just do something like:

perl_crap="$(qlist -ICv | grep -F perl | sed 's/^/=/g')"
quickpkg --include-config y $perl_crap
emerge --rage-clean "$perl_crap"

Then re-install perl and do a @world upgrade. If that doesn't fix it then you set the whole thing on fire and don't come back.

>>107336871
If something fucks up then you can always do:

emerge -v1 --usepkgonly $perl_crap

to restore the binary packages it made.

>>107336871
>>107336902
Well I run the @world upgrade, then --depclean reported a long list of perl packages but said unable to delete. Well then I run perl-cleaner --all again and now it's removing and installing fucking shitload of perl packages, merging a new one and deleting some old slot one. I fucking hope this works, it should work but I have no idea what pulled perl into my system anyways, I assume it has been in my system since day 1 as some dependency I guess. It's not in @world

>>107337019
>I have no idea what pulled perl into my system anyways
There will always be some stupid script that depends on Perl but should have been re-written in Python years ago but nobody knows what it does anymore and the original author is dead or missing.

Most systems end up with Perl on them somehow.

>>107337051
Well I'm going to fucking check now what pulls it in. I hate it. I had to do upgrades and perl-clean and --depclean many fucking times until my system decided it's up-to-date again. Fucking hell.

>>107337136
It will be a lot depending on how much stuff you have installed:

$  qdepends -qQ dev-lang/perl | wc -l
441

>>107337165
Seems like fucking half of my packages depend on perl. I guess it just cannot be avoided, it just broke for me for whatever reason, randomly.......

>>107327263
Not that anyone answered me but I actually did go down this route and it works better than I expected. I did have to add a function in a bash script to alias nvim to call the kitty version of nvim and fiddled around with .desktop files but it's workin. Only annoyance is not being able to have all of the configs in one file but not that big of a deal since I make documentation for my dots and scripts lol

>>107335636
>The "stable" kernel is what most people should use on desktops.
I guess a distro can maintain a kernel which the Linux Foundation is no longer supporting right? I'm on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, and my kernel version is 6.8, which is not an LTS kernel so it wasn't supported for very long, but Canonical seem to be maintaining that version of the kernel themselves, according to their website.

>>107337412
Correct. Ubuntu maintains their own kernel and will backport any patches they deem necessary, etc.

The LTS kernel on kernel.org is just what the Linux developers support. There is nothing to stop a distribution from maintaining their own older version of the kernel.

Does anyone here use Linux professionally? Our company is all Windows normies but I'd prefer to use Linux. If this ever happens, I'm thinking about using Fedora. Arch Linux (what I use at home) might be too risky and cumbersome to set up. What do you guys think?

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>>107332578
>>107332593
ubuntu was good enough for legendary Terry Davis

>>107337450
RHEL and Debian are what you're going to find in most enterprises who have linux.
I'd suggest using a REHL derivative like Rocky or Alma if you want to skip the RHEL licensing. However, depending on the size of the business, RHEL licensing and support may be a bonus.
Pick your poison, really

>>107337548
He was intentionally using that in public view to throw the glowies off his real system.

>>107337450
Most software devs use either Linux or macOS. In my former company we had to use Ubuntu, Fedora or macOS. Currently I'm on Aurora which is just a less autistic Fedora Kinoite.

>>107337441
Makes sense

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>>107332317
That didn't change anything at all, man.

>>107337550
Thanks, I'm not familiar with these corpo distros, although I saw them in my searches. I was thinking about sticking to something more mainstream, but I'll take a look at them if licenses are offered.

>>107337637
>Most software devs use either Linux or macOS
I certainly see a lot of this online in open source circles, but I actually doubt this is true for most software. I wish this was the case, but for my part, I'll be the odd man out for using it.

Any other Gentoo users having trouble updating firefox-bin? I think somebody hacked Mozilla:

>>> Downloading 'https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/91.0.1esr/linux-x86_64/en-US/firefox-91.0.1esr.tar.bz2'                  
…                                                                                                                          
2025-11-26 21:02:44 (20.4 MB/s) - ‘/media/storage/distfiles/firefox-bin_x86_64-91.0.1.tar.bz2.__download__’ saved [76137102/76137102]      
                                                                                                                                           
!!! Fetched file: firefox-bin_x86_64-91.0.1.tar.bz2 VERIFY FAILED!                                                                         
!!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size                                                                                          
!!! Got:      76137102                                                                                                                     
!!! Expected: 76050533                                                                                                                     
Refetching... File renamed to '/media/storage/distfiles/firefox-bin_x86_64-91.0.1.tar.bz2._checksum_failure_.7d7qldfl'                     
                                                                                                                                           
!!! Couldn't download 'firefox-bin_x86_64-91.0.1.tar.bz2'. Aborting.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                           
>>> Failed to emerge www-client/firefox-bin-91.0.1, Log file:

>>107337770
Ah, never mind. It's trying to update from my local overlay. I must have some cruft in there. I don't remember doing that.

>>107337450
fedora is what Linus uses. stay a version behind just to keep things more stable.

>>107337748
>something more mainstream
Professionally speaking, which is how you rooted your request; it doesn't get more mainstream than Red Hat and Debian.

>>107337847
Debian isn't mainstream. It's deployed by a few aging hedge IT guys. It's not even coupled with Ubuntu any more.

X11-fags on life support: https://www.phoronix.com/news/KDE-Plasma-68-Wayland-Exclusive

>>107337905
They were already on life-support when they separated the X11 code out of KWin and into a separate KWin X11 repo. Now they're cutting them loose.

>>107337893
I'm just speaking from experience, anon. You're kinda right tho. Ubuntu kinda overtook Debain in the mainstream awhile ago. It's all Debian to me tho, because I'm old.
Cheers.

>>107337748
>I certainly see a lot of this online in open source circles, but I actually doubt this is true for most software.
I exclusively work on proprietary software and services and in/with companies which don't open source anything. Although to be fair I'm in EU and working with teams in multiple EU countries. This might not be applicable to the US and Asia, I guess?

My previous company was 50% macOS, 50% Linux, 0% Windows. macOS was used mostly by iOS devs and designers, while Linux was used by sysadmins, web devs and backend/service/db developers.

My current company is 70% macOS, 20% Linux and 10% Windows. Windows is only used in very old projects that were built on top of .NET, Azure and are deeply integrated with Windows services and the Microsoft ecosystem. Nobody likes it, but refactoring would cost too much time due to how large these projects are.
Even many of the devs stuck on Windows are actually using macOS and only use their Windows machine as a build and local server environment. So, if it weren't for higher ups not wanting to spend a year idling without providing feature updates to clients, the migration away from Windows would already be done.

>>107337893
This. Ubuntu and Fedora are THE standard for Linux dev machines in most companies. In EU we also often see openSUSE, but mainly not as a dev environment and just a build and test environment for software that's being worked on.

>>107337970
Very nice. I don't know company wide figures for my (EU based) company but in my close vicinity it's really 100% Windows. We don't even use .NET and all our stuff is deployed on Linux machines running Ubuntu actually. This makes me feel less bad about requesting a Linux machine.

So, doing
>modinfo nvidia | grep filename
gets
>filename: /lib modules/6.17.8-300.fc43.x86_64/extra/nvidia nvidia.ko
And this is a sign that nvidia proprietary module is in use. However, when I do
>cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version
I'm still getting "NVRM version: NVIDIA UNIX Open Kernel Module for x86_64 580.105.08 Release Build (dvs-builder@U22-I3-B10-02-5) Wed Oct 29 22:29:53 UTC 2025"
This is somewhat confusing. I'm on Ampere but in this case this should not matter.

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The USB keyboard attached to my archive server got stuck and went on infinite-repeat until the system barfed. When I wanted to save some files off and switched my monitor to that server, after probably two or three days of infinite-repeat, the USB subsystem for the NON-KEYBOARD USB port had crashed. Note that the keyboard focus was directed at the terminal window that whole time. The keyboard was still functioning, so I was able type into the terminal window, but every attempt to do something was met with an error like the following:

>bash: start_pipeline: prgp pipe: Too many open files in system
>bash: /bin/ls: Too many open files in system

It didn't matter which command was used, it would give a largely similar error.

1) what causes this
2) is there any way to recover from this
3) is there anything that I can set up, say within X11, that will start intercepting and devouring keyboard events if more than, say, 100 of the identical character code get sent within a short timeframe? Would this work to stop the problem?

>>107337905
Great... I sure love my mouse slipping out of a game window constantly because wayland can't capture the fucking cursor.

>>107338127
I mean you have nothing to lose by asking. They'll probably let you be on Linux assuming you can set it up yourself.

But, some companies demand having monitoring/RA software and/or an anti-virus on their employees' devices.
AVs are generally demanded because some companies try to get some ISO certifications regarding device security (helps with funding and finding clients). While some companies just want total remote control over your device for whatever other reason.
Keep in mind that AVs do exist on Linux, contrary to popular belief. One company I worked for used ESET iirc and that was enough to pass device security certifications in the AV category. And remote control obviously does work, but some sysadmins might not be in the know-how on how to set it up on Linux. So that might be a filter if remote device access is required.

And yes, by industry standards desktop Linux is less secure than Windows and macOS out of the box.

i need help with av1 playback performance in firefox
debian 12, esr version of firefox (128)
>have av1 video
>play it in mpv (vo/gpu)
>0% cpu usage
>always plays back perfectly
>play it in firefox
>20% cpu usage
>framerate drops in fullscreen
hardware acceleration is already enabled
i also checked about:config
>media.hardware-video-decoding.enabled
that's already set to true
>media.hardware-video-decoding.force-enabled
that's set to false by default, i tried setting it to true and nothing changed
how can i fix it or at least diagnose the problem?
first thing i was going to try last night was a newer version of firefox via flatpak

org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.default 
org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.default 
org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.nvidia-_
org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.nvidia-_
org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.nvidia-_
org.freedesktop.Platform.Locale     
org.freedesktop.Platform.ffmpeg-full
org.freedesktop.Platform            
org.mozilla.firefox.Locale
org.mozilla.firefox                 

Proceed with these changes to the system installation? [Y/n]: n

i didn't do it because i had issues installing nvidia drivers before and didn't realize flatpak packages required changing system packages and apparently flatpak wanted to install 3 different nvidia packages and one of them has a much newer major version than the other two. i removed the numbers but they're all nnn-nn-nn
tldr av1 plays without cpu usage in mpv but not in firefox

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>>107337905
>>107337922
QRD on what the fuck? Is X11 being phased out of Linux or something?

I've literally been using X since the X10 days. Yes I'm fucking ancient.

>>107338920
I think it's being dropped from KDE. I used Xfree86.

>>107338920
This: >>107339015

GNOME already dropped it (completely), KDE moved its X11 support to a separate git repo:
https://invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin-x11

Now this separate git repo is being phased out too.
Soon there will be no more X11 session support in either KDE or GNOME. The Xorg Server isn't going anywhere from Linux distros anytime soon though so if you use i3 or Dwm or whatever then this doesn't affect you. This is purely about KDE no longer being held back by legacy code and now they can focus their efforts 100% on Wayland which truthfully was already something they were doing anyway. The legacy X11 code didn't get much of a look in and sometimes broke without anyone realising it because none of the developers are running X11 anymore, etc.

>>107338824
about:support tells you which codecs have hardware decoding

>>107338824
Does your Flatpak have VAAPI decoding available? On proprietary NVIDIA shit this is only available via a community maintained driver and I do not know if that is packaged for Flatpak:
https://github.com/elFarto/nvidia-vaapi-driver

$ flatpak install --user app/org.freedesktop.Platform.VaInfo/x86_64/24.08
$ flatpak run --user app/org.freedesktop.Platform.VaInfo/x86_64/24.08
Trying display: wayland
libva info: VA-API version 1.22.0
libva info: Trying to open /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/radeonsi_drv_video.so
libva info: Trying to open /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/intel-vaapi-driver/radeonsi_drv_video.so
libva info: Trying to open /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/GL/lib/dri/radeonsi_drv_video.so
libva info: Found init function __vaDriverInit_1_22
libva info: va_openDriver() returns 0
vainfo: VA-API version: 1.22 (libva 2.22.0)
vainfo: Driver version: Mesa Gallium driver 25.2.6 for AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT (radeonsi, gfx1201, ACO, DRM 3.64, 6.17.9-gentoo)
vainfo: Supported profile and entrypoints
      VAProfileH264ConstrainedBaseline:    VAEntrypointVLD
      VAProfileH264ConstrainedBaseline:    VAEntrypointEncSlice
      VAProfileH264Main               :    VAEntrypointVLD
      VAProfileH264Main               :    VAEntrypointEncSlice
      VAProfileH264High               :    VAEntrypointVLD
      VAProfileH264High               :    VAEntrypointEncSlice
      VAProfileHEVCMain               :    VAEntrypointVLD
      VAProfileHEVCMain               :    VAEntrypointEncSlice
      VAProfileHEVCMain10             :    VAEntrypointVLD
      VAProfileHEVCMain10             :    VAEntrypointEncSlice
      VAProfileJPEGBaseline           :    VAEntrypointVLD
      VAProfileVP9Profile0            :    VAEntrypointVLD
      VAProfileVP9Profile2            :    VAEntrypointVLD
      VAProfileAV1Profile0            :    VAEntrypointVLD
      VAProfileAV1Profile0            :    VAEntrypointEncSlice
      VAProfileNone                   :    VAEntrypointVideoProc

>>107339913
>>107338824
According to

flatpak search --user nvidia

there is a

org.freedesktop.Platform.VAAPI.nvidia

package. Try installing it.

>>107339940
Except I do not know if that will help your Firefox case or not because:

$ flatpak info org.mozilla.firefox

Firefox - Fast, Private & Safe Web Browser

          ID: org.mozilla.firefox
         Ref: app/org.mozilla.firefox/x86_64/stable
        Arch: x86_64
      Branch: stable
     Version: 145.0.2
     License: MPL-2.0
      Origin: flathub
  Collection: org.flathub.Stable
Installation: user
   Installed: 303.4MB
     Runtime: org.freedesktop.Platform/x86_64/24.08
         Sdk: org.freedesktop.Sdk/x86_64/24.08

      Commit: f7c74844
      Parent: 499dc000
     Subject: Export org.mozilla.firefox
        Date: 2025-11-25 14:45:25 +0000

It is using the 24.08 runtime but:

$ flatpak install --user org.freedesktop.Platform.VAAPI.nvidia//24.08
error: No remote refs found for ‘org.freedesktop.Platform.VAAPI.nvidia//24.08’

You may be shit out of luck until the Firefox Flatpak updates its base-runtime.

>>107339015
>>107339235
Thanks. Well crap. I use LXDE generally.

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>>107339766
>>107339913
>>107339940
>about:support
i tried this first on my regular non-flatpak firefox esr and noticed firefox doesn't seem to detect my gpu
pic rel
also when i scrolled down none of the codecs had hardware decoding supported, i assume because firefox didn't detect my gpu
i did a quick search "nvidia gpu doesn't show up in firefox about:support" and the ai bloat answer mentioned this
>To force Firefox to use the NVIDIA GPU, you can launch it with the prime-run command, which sets environment variables like __NV_PRIME_RENDER_OFFLOAD=1, __VK_LAYER_NV_optimus=NVIDIA_only, and __GLX_VENDOR_LIBRARY_NAME=nvidia.
but i haven't tried it or anything else yet
i have to go do some other things for a bit but wanted to share what i found
thanks for the help so far anons

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also saw this but dunno if it's relevant

>>107340181
You need that driver I posted:
>>107339913

It's there for newer Flatpak runtimes but I don't know if Debian packages it or not.

>upgrade to kernel 6.8.0-87
>usb mouse frequently just stops working
>doesn't disconnect, just starts cutting off until it no longer clicks and moves
>have to disconnect and reconnect it
god dammit

>>107340198
>>107340181
According to the Packaging status they do have it:
https://github.com/elFarto/nvidia-vaapi-driver?tab=readme-ov-file#packaging-status

Install the package and check with vainfo to see if you have Vaapi support or not. Also I highly recommend NOT using Debian's firefox package if that's what you're using and instead add Mozilla's APT repository to get an up-to-date build:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/install-firefox-linux#w_install-firefox-deb-package-for-debian-based-distributions-recommended

How does the GNU/Linux Kernel/System dev landscape look like? How much will a win32 dev gain by shifting completely?

>>107340246
You will gain a free operating system that does what you tell it to and comes with no spyware.

>>107340246
I forgot to add, FOR WORK*

>>107340198
>>107340225
thanks, i'll try that later when i'm free
i'm on debian 12 and i noticed on the github page it says debian 12 only has version 0.0.8 of the package, do you think that would cause any obvious issues? i assume not
>Also I highly recommend NOT using Debian's firefox package if that's what you're using and instead add Mozilla's APT repository to get an up-to-date build
yeah i've been using the default firefox package that comes with debian, i'll switch, thanks for the link

>>107340288
Well for work it's a non-starter if your work involves win32 development then how are you going to do that on Linux? There's Mono and Dotnet and depending on what you do that may be good enough but you'll have to thoroughly test things.

>>107340320
Debian 13 has a newer version if you feel like updating.

>>107337905
damn. well there's always xfce if kde wayland breaks on me again

>>107331762
>>107332091
Hello anon, devuan user here, I've had my fair share of network issues so here are somethings you should be aware of:
First, make sure network manager is running, if you're using sysvinit or openrc then simply run

sudo service network-manager status

If it's running then run

nmcli device status

and check if your wireless device (e.g. wlan0) is available, if not then it could mean you don't have wifi firmware package or wpa_supplicant installed. If it's available but disconnected then use nmcli to connect (see next commands)

nmcli device wifi rescan
nmcli device wifi list
nmcli device wifi connect <your-network-SSID-here> --ask

Use these commands to scan, list and connect to networks respectively.
Now, after successfully connecting run

nmcli device show

and check that you were assigned an IP address (i've had DHCP fail on me sometimes), next ping 1.1.1.1 or 8.8.8.8, if you can ping them then good job you have internet now, but also try pinging google.com or any other site, if you can only ping IP addresses but not sites then you have a DNS problem and you need to check /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf

Note: you may need to add yourself to the netdev group if you want to connect without using root privileges.
Note 2: other network software may interfere with network manager, particularly ifupdown package was problematic for me, not sure if works the same on arch though.

>>107340325
No, I’m moving to linux completely and will program there.

I can't believe Linux actually won. Mostly in part because of MS shooting themselves in the foot over and over again, but still, a victory is a victory.

>>107340432
Linux is also shooting itself in the foot with wayland and systemd, honestly the future looks bleak with most DEs now dropping support for X11

I've been using Arch on my desk and Mint on my lap for over year for gaming and work, pretty good experience in general despite a few hitches here and there.

>>107340458
X11 is deprecated archaic garbage, get with the times, grandpa.

>>107340393
Then you should be fine. Linux is great for programmers as long as your work doesn't involve Windows or Apple, etc, development.

>>107340458
There are still plenty of distributions without Systemd support and Wayland whilst not perfect at least supports modern display server features. Wayland for better or worse is the future. Its best we keep improving it rather than stick with the stagnating Xorg Server.
XLibre can keep going and pretend they're modernising it but they still haven't fixed any of its long-standing issues or brought any modern display server features.

>>107340532
I mean, yeah, the codebase is 40 years old, but it still works just fine for anything that isn't gaming.

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>>107340596
Whoops I thought she had a full bra on in the thumbnail. My bad. :-(

>>107340596
Still no HDR output so you can't gaze at sluts like whoever (Pic related) is in high dynamic range with improved colour accuracy and brightness.

>>107340596
>>107340610
For me, better multiple monitors support and compositing that doesn't destroy game performance. Oh and you can finally disable the middle click paste.

>>107340614
>>107340630
Thanks. The former post for those who missed it:

>>107340575
>modern display server features.
As someone still firmly stuck in the X11 era, what exactly are these features that I'm missing out on?

>>107340614
>sluts like whoever (Pic related)
Mila Azul, BTW.

>>107340630
>and you can finally disable the middle click paste.
But I use that all the time ;_;

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Hello /g/uys, is picrel a good ressource for learning Linux HPC?

Does /g/ have some book/resource recommendation?

>>107340748
I would not use any resource published by IBM.

>>107340816
based

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neat meme

>>107340225
alright i downloaded the nvidia-vaapi driver
>nvidia-vaapi-driver is already the newest version (0.0.8-1).
and now i'm using the latest non-esr firefox from the mozilla repo but vainfo isn't working

$ vainfo
libva info: VA-API version 1.17.0
libva error: vaGetDriverNameByIndex() failed with unknown libva error, driver_name = (null)
vaInitialize failed with error code -1 (unknown libva error),exit

llm said i should verify the vaapi installation and i did
>Verify install: ls /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/nvidia_drv_video.so (should exist).
it exists
firefox still says gpu #2 isn't active like in my earlier pic >>107340121

I installed Bazzite on my ROG Ally X
But in dolphin the option to show hidden files/folders is greyed out.
And I seemingly can't do anything to make it so I can see them?

>>107343062
>I installed a meme and it's doing meme things and I can't figure out how to stop it from being a meme

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>>107343062
>can't ctrl h for hidden files
damn atomic distros sound like pain

>>107331762
>Artix won't let me
Do you know what distro you installed? If something doesn't work on Artix or Arch it's because of you, not the distro. Read the Artix install guide and Arch wiki page on WiFi, or go back to a Debian-based distro if you want everything working out of the box.

>>107337905
KDE is a trash DE.

>>107343016
okay i fixed it, av1 playback in firefox is perfect now
still uses some cpu but playback is smooth
i went to about:config and added this
>media.ffmpeg.vaapi.enabled = true
when i searched for that setting "media.ffmpeg.vaapi.enabled" in about:config it didn't even exist so i wasn't sure if adding it would do anything but it instantly fixed it
sidenote, i'm kinda retarded because i forgot that my gpu is so fucking old that it was released before av1 even existed and according to the official nvidia docs it doesn't even support av1 hardware accelerated decoding but the thing is that av1 decoding is silky smooth in mpv and i also tested chrome and it was good there too so i wanted to see if i could make it work in firefox too which i did thanks to you guys
thanks again for the help anons
>>107340198
>>107339913
>>107339766
>>107340225
happy thanksgiving

>>107343419
It might have fixed it anyway as a side-effect of enabling dmabuf which uploads the decoded video to a hardware surface even if the decoding is still done on the CPU it will copy it across to the GPU via this surface.

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I've been installing gentoo for the last 5 hours
what the fuck is the point of this shit

>>107343736
Maybe once you figure out how to install it you'll know.

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For as much as I hate Gnome. I do like their disk utility. It makes it so easy to auto mount encrypted disk and has sane defaults that prevent your system from booting because a disk is missing or smth. I wish kdes partition manager wasn't hot garbage. I just hate the "GTKness" of the gnome disk utility. I hate editing fstab and crypttab.

>>107343062
I use Arch btw. Install CachyOS.
https://cdn77.cachyos.org/ISO/handheld/250824/cachyos-handheld-linux-250824.iso

>>107343848
>sane defaults that prevent your system from booting because a disk is missing
why would you want that?

>>107343874
I am retarded. I meant that the sane default prevent that from happening.

>>107343736
so, anon, what did you learn through that 5 hours?

>>107343915
that typing in commands correctly and with the correct values makes the system boot

When a device says it has "Ubuntu" drivers does that mean it'll ONLY work with Ubuntu or that it was only tested on it but will generally work most Linux distros?

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>>107338227
Answering my own reply, it was incredibly difficult to find a solution to this as I'm not a kernel module expert:
On Fedora 43, for some reason after a kernel update akmods would always build the open kernel module instead of the closed source one, even though I installed the akmod-nvidia package and not akmod-nvidia-open from rpmfusion which is fucking retarded.
>sudo sh -c 'echo "%_without_kmod_nvidia_detect 1" > /etc/rpm/macros.nvidia-kmod'
>sudo akmods --rebuild --force --akmod nvidia
>sudo dracut --regenerate-all --force
And now modinfo should NOT display the Dual/MIT license but the regular Nvidia license.
>modinfo nvidia | grep -i license

I went through so many pages but they all loop around the dnf packages what does not lead to anywhere in this case. Chatpajeet even said that "my system is lying" when it shows Dual/MIT license... Jesus fucking christ. Obviously do not use llms to solve these issues.

>>107343988
Most devices have drivers in tree these days. That is, it's just in the Linux kernel itself.

>>107343994
RHEL/Alma handles Nvidia drivers much more nicely.
>Obviously do not use llms to solve these issues.
They can be immensely helpful, you just need to be able to tell when they start hallucinating.

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>>107343988
if it works with Ubuntu it will probably work with everything else also.

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>>107344110
Yeah, I think despite uninstalling/cleaning the unwanted packages the kernel modules are still embedded somewhere within and it could be that they default to overriding to nvidia-open regardless.
At least this method works now.

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I don't understand. Why is my 7900GRE capped at 212W? I thought the 7900GRE is supposed to have a standard power limit of 260W.

>>107344167
two answers:
>1. TDP != power consumption
>2. check your BIOS for any eco/power saving/optimizing settings

>>107343988
It has to be that exact version of Ubuntu or any distribution based on that exact version of Ubuntu.

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>>107344242
power consumption > tdp
because it can't generate more heat then it can pull power.
typical board power of 260w is what amd gives on their website for the reference 7900gre. so it's the total power consumption of the whole board. i guess ppt is only for the gpu core without the vrm, vram and fans.

>>107343988
It means they've been tested to work on Ubuntu. It says nothing about whether it will only work with a specific release of Ubuntu, or even a specific Ubuntu kernel, or any other distro. It'll depend on whether it's an in-kernel driver, a kernel module, a userspace driver, whether your system has the required dependencies, etc etc etc...

>>107344310
>power consumption > tdp
>it can't generate more heat then it can pull power
TDP is the theoretical maximum based on stock frequencies and the accompanying voltages. It does not become lower when you reduce the load on the device, it stays the same. Therefore, power consumption can be lower than the TDP. If you mean "peak power consumption > TDP", then sure.

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>>107343921
so, skill issue as usual. you can improve your typing skills pic related

>>107326518
Mate, XFCE, an Cinnamon are unirionally the only fully featured X11 DE's left. Gnome and KDE are being left to rot and soon will be phased out.

Out of the three, XFCE is the best. Yes the default theme looks old, but you the appearance app makes it super easy to change that. If you install another modern DE like Ubuntu you can just choose yaru and have a decent looking xfce desktop without much effort.

But where XFCE shines most is it's super lighweight compositor and its sweat of apps. I think xfce4-terminal and mousepad are my favorite terminal and notepad++-like notepad app on linux. They're so fucking good...

Also, XFCE is developing a wayland session and currently offer an expirmental version. People don't like it because they don't know how to properly setup labwc, but soon they will ditch labwc for their own wm.

TL;DR: XFCE is high A-tier can't go wrong

>>107344441
>unirionally
hey, zoom zoom,
add the correct spelling of the word to your smartphone dictionary so you don't fall through my filters again

>>107344466
unirionallys
that nigga uses filters haha

Just watched the GamersNexus videos on Linux and I gotta give props to them, outside of Linux-specific sites like Phoronix they seem to be the only ones who made a serious effort get Linux gaming benchmarking right

>>107344684
benchmarking on linux has it's own challenges that make it difficult for someone to go out and say "this is the performance you get with this hardware on linux" because anyone who has tried out different distros and optimized linux for gaming knows how much can or can not be gained in certain scenarios.

>>107344466
yo unc your post is not bussin its sussin

>>107344684
also testing new hardware kinda sucks on linux
nvidia usually has their drivers dialed in by the time they release their gpus and amd has them finished to 90% most of the time
while you may have a black screen on something like ubuntu or fedora

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>>107344466
are you fr

>>107344721
>>107344749
Solution to this is locked up virtual environment similar to flatpaks. This way these jews could even run kernel anti-cheat too.

I'm experiencing some very weird shit, I spun up 2 VMs, same exact setup, RHEL8. I have a script for dnf updates that will perform them on both at the same time. The updates will reboot the VMs twice in their process, like within 3-4 minutes. And what I noticed is that on one of them a systemd user process immediately starts after the first reboot and then gets his DB corrupted by the 2nd reboot. Meanwhile on VM2 the process doesn't start in the 4minute uptime window but will start immediately after the 2nd reboot so no problems here.
So basically
:00 (minutes)
>VM1 reboot
>VM2 reboot
:01
>both back up, DNF starts
>VM1 user process starts and immediately causes DB corruption
>VM2 user process doesn't start for some reason
:04
>DNF done, both reboot
:05
>both back up
>VM1 user process fails to start because DB is corrupted because it started in the4min up time earlier
>VM2 user process starts normally

they're literally clones and the same process
checked the service file, both wait for the network to be up before starting, checked NM-wait process, starts on both after like 15seconds
so basically I have no idea why VM2 behaves that way
I can just bypass the DB corruption problem by adding a sleep 300 to the service file but it doesn't explain why the process on VM2 doesn't start during DNF

>>107344779
someone should just package a whole linux distro into a fagpak or snap that runs everything inside of it. i would call it the fag standard.

>>107344865
Just wait until corporations smell money in this. Xbox style walled garden.
I don't really think that Valve's intentions are that good either but at least they are lazy and creating something like this would take few years still.
eg. telemetry and drm is coming to linux it's a matter of time

>>107344865
Atomic Desktops already exist, Anon

>>107344865
>>107344779
Don't atomics distros already exist?

>>107344902
I'm talking about something what is plug and play regardless of your host OS.

>>107343379
>things never break by themselves on linux.

>>107344895
>>107344902
how should i know. i just let everyone know that i hate flatpaks and the concept of a whole distro depending on flatpaks. so what difference does it make for me?

>>107344825
The DB you're talking about is local in each VM, right?
When you say clones, do you mean one is a literal clone of the other? This can cause issues like RHEL subscription being split, MAC address conflcits causing various things like DHCP not knowing which one's which, etc.
Also, you're not using Ansible?

>>107344971
It's a good habit to browse journalctl every day, there's always something strange going on. For example, never noticed these before:
>wireplumber[2161]: wp-proc-utils: failed to get cmdline for PID 233: No such file or directory
>wireplumber[2161]: wp-proc-utils: failed to get cgroup for PID 233: Failed to open file “/proc/233/status”: No such file or directory
>wireplumber[2161]: GLib: GError set over the top of a previous GError or uninitialized memory.
>This indicates a bug in someone's code. You must ensure an error is NULL before it's set.
>The overwriting error message was: Failed to open file “/proc/233/cgroup”: No such file or directory
These are "just" warnings but seems like something is misconfigured.

How do i mount a user from a different linux system? I have 2 installs of linux on 2 different drives in case one of them shits the bed but i cant access my debian home folder from my arch system. I can mount the drive itself but it tells me it cant read it when i try to mount the user

>>107345021
I'll start doing that, but I'm not going to continue with artix on this laptop. I spent hours and hours trying to get wifi working to no avail and I want to know if the problem is with my computer itself or just artix and one way to test that is to switch distros.

>>107345021
>(log messages)
kek that's why I stick with PA

>>107345018
I think I found the issue
I forgot to change the execstart on the 2nd system (I thought I copied them)
that execstart has a daemon reload in it so the process doesn't start during the DNF update
so it's basically protected by accident lol

>>107344902
>>107344895
>atomic
please learn what atomic actually means

>>107345189
Tell that to Fedora, they named them that.

>>107345234
they're not the ones using the term incorrectly

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>>107326350
uhh bros how do I use adwaita icons in xfce (on debian 13)? It's installed but does not show up in the settings...

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>>107345617
>adwaita

>>107345617
># cursors
>~/.icons/
># icons
>~/.local/share/icons
># themes
>~/.local/share/themes
># fonts
>~/.local/share/fonts

>>107345732
Yes, mouse cursors go into 'icons' while icons go into .local/share/icons.
This is the reason why linux desktop environments are ALL so fucking idiotic.

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>>107345732
I have no ~/.local/share/icons or ~/.icons; all my icon themes are in /usr/share/icons... Calling

 gtk-update-icon-cache 

on that directory or calling it with --force on either Adwaita or AdwaitaLegacy also has no effect

>>107345903
>>107345732
I have also tried reinstalling both packages but that does not work either.

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>>107345914
Should work too. Maybe the theme's directory structure is borked? I don't know what else to say.

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>>107346067
Idk does this look borked? I also removed all the files manually & then reinstalled the themes, that is what they come out as; Tango as a comparison which works fine. Also, thanks for trying to help

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>>107346067
>>107346133
Jesus dude you won't believe what the fucking problem was... The index.theme file for both themes had a line that said "Hidden=true"; I did not know that was even a thing... Simply removing that line from their index.theme files made them appear in the settings. Why would that be set up like this by default? Anyway, thanks for helping!

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How to stream audio over network with both machines running linux?
I have HTPC connected to big tv but I want to listen to audio from my small laptop in my lap.

>>107345617
german anon, you don't need to grep for package name, just put package name after apt comand:

$ apt list --installed total-kike-death
total-kike-death/stable,stable-security,now 1.4.8-8+deb13u2 amd64 [installed]

New thread >>107346882

>>107345617
you need gnome-themes-extra package

>>107343821
>>107343915
gentoo enjoys wasting your time even when nothing goes wrong

Did anyone here manage to run Lightroom Classic or Capture One through WInboat/Winapps or whatever the fuck?
I know about darktable, I know about rawtherapee, I know about their forks, I just want to know if there's been any successful attempts here.

>>107348290
>WInboat/Winapps
none of these worked for me in the first place