grim

Is it normal that a t490 struggles with playing large video files? Upgraded from a 1080p display to a 4k one and now some videos lag when in fullscreen although the audio plays like normal

>>107329500
Yeah

What's the last good Intel Thinkpad gen?

>>107329832
Ivy Bridge

>>107329963
Why would it be? Isnt it a dual core low frecuency procesor?
My i5 6300U strugles quite easy under load...

>>107331013
>6300U
cant compare to big dick high testosterone chad ivy bridge i7-3940XM

>>107331032
>Ye.. thats not a common CPU... U had to pay like 3k in 2012 to get a computer whit one of those... And it needs a ton of power. Which is cool ngl, but a laptop that needs to be plug all the time and weight like a Toyota Yaris isnt very diferent froms a desktop.

>>107331312
i swapped that cpu in my T530, those are socketable cpus anon, and it was $20 on facebook marketplace

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>>107331433
I wish that was an option whit my t560... Closest think is swap the hole motherboard whit one whit a i7 6600U...And im not sure if that 3gen i7 still being more powerful.
(Pic of the most powerfull it560 i7 + gpu)

Made up my mind to not buy a "high powered, fancy" laptop until I make my first million using the thinkpad I bought off ebay. Well today the screen cracked, and i found it would cost more to replace the screen than the laptop itself cost. So guess what? I'm buying another $100 thinkpad off Ebay. All I need to run is DWM and neovim, anything more is vanity.

>>107332092
which one you buying
also use the old one as a headless server

>>107329500
Download codec from Microsoft store.
Software rendering sucks ass

>>107329500
use a normal OS

>>107329500
4k with a hub is limited to 30 on the t490 iirc so videos with a framerate above that will be out of sync.

>>107329268
more so than usual?

>>107327164
This might be the wrong thread; but in 2014 i took the advice from /g/ to get a thinkpad laptop. I’ve been using them since. I just got the space for a desktop computer. Are the thinkstations also a good recommendation for people who just want to buy a new computer and probably won’t update the hardware? I literally just want to use fruityloops and the highest spec game I would play would be rollercoaster tycoon

>>107335589
Yes

>>107335589
it's not by any means stellar, but if you need something to get by for production stuff like that it should get the job done perfectly fine.

>>107327164
what's a good docking station for a thinkpad with at least:
- 2 USB C
- 1 HDMI
- 1 audio jack

anything else i should take into account? worth buying the docking with Thunderbolt?

thinkpad is a T14s Gen 6 (AMD) if that changes anything

Thots on something like this? I just need a laptop at all, I’m not picky atp

https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T14-Gen-Thunderbolt/dp/B0FW4M9L5W

>>107338289
it's a fine laptop but win11 truly sucks more than win traditionally sucks, i'd get a mac or lunix

>>107338502
Right now I can’t spend much on a craptop cause I got other experiences. Also I’ll probably just stick with win10 for now, Malwarebytes still supports it.

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Got a X250 from 2015, bought it refurbished in 2018, have occasionally used it on vacation or when away sometimes, recently came back to it after so inactivity. I run Ubuntu on it.
I noticed that no matter how charged the battery is, the internal one is never charged. Can I make a check somehow to see if it is truly dead or maybe just loose or something? I think I already excahnged this once before.
Dont have any tools with me here in the hotle, will be back on Friday evening.

>>107338578
does it really last 12 days running without charging?

>>107338289 me
What battery life can I expect here? I can make 5-7 hours work.

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>>107338621
It's the big one, but this is possiblyy because it spent all this time suspended so it had minimal drain. today it ran for 5 hours while I was typing and watching youtube videos and it went from 100% to 35%.

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Is 400 eurobucks a scam for a refurbished T14 Gen 2 with Intel?

>>107339296
Seems somewhat overpriced desu. But if your rich hey who cares

>>107329832
Each generation removes a feature or two somebody likes and represents the line in the sand.

/tpg/ is where you come to tell us what Thinkpad you like, and contrarians try to sell you on one 20 years older that has all these awesome features but 20% of the performance.

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>>107334698
Something like 5 hours between the OP being created and the first response. It's been more of a slow burn over the years. Now it's just a general for spoon-feeding faggots who cba to make a simple search query.

Might just be a consequence of a general decline in the user base--both in numbers, and quality of discussion they're willing to engage in.

Meta threads aren't allowed--they're deleted within hours (once janny gets off his ass)--so I imagine a lot of oldfags just got frustrated and went off-site, leaving it all to the dogs, so to speak.

>>107335589
Thinkstations are fucking awesome. Highly recommend for home server/productivity stuff.

>>107339555
people has just growed bro

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Just installed an IPS panel on my X220. It's a night and day fucking difference. Got the B3 panel too (lucky).
Highly recommended upgrade. I can't go back to those dog shit, bottom of the fucking barrel TN garbage panels anymore. I'm selling my surplus ThinkShits with shitty panels.

If any of you niggers are selling a T60p, let me know fr fr on g

>>107339646
saar...

>>107339911
Nah that’s a nigga

>>107339881
Where'd you get the panel from? I was considering upgrading my X220's display

>>107329832
Intel 11th gen models, so T14 G2 and X1 Carbon G9. Last models without the jewish E and P cores

>>107340155
ali
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832462264052.html

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>>107340188
thanks anon

>>107340188
Not the anon that asked and I don't have a x220, precisely because I know the screens are dogshit, but I would like asking you 2 things: did you need extra hardware, adapters or modifications or is it a drop-in replacement? And, would it work with a x230 too? also holy cow im amazed at the price, it says like $25 on my screen, is that correct? I though it would cost $80 at least

Love my X220 but need something thinner lighter and a bit more up to date. Screen size is good. $300 maybe?

>>107341687
14 inch t470 or 80 should be cheap enough

>>107341687
X1 Nano

>>107341687
>>107342118
Both T470 and T480 are as heavy as X230 when matching battery life, and heavier when matching battery capacity. Build is also cheaper with plastic clips that break easily. These are only worth buying if
- you need more than 40 GB RAM
- you need more than 7-8 hours on battery
- you have a SATA drive that you want to reuse
- you have a stash of classic trackpoint caps to burn through

T480s is lighter than X230 and the last model under 15" with both basic modularity and anything close to classic build quality.

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>here's your new aliexpress display bro

>>107341687
X270

>>107339296
400 is way too expensive for a T14G2, especially an Intel model. For this price you can get a "new" used Intel T14G3s or used/refurbished Ryzen T14G2s. I would aim for something on the upper 200, lower 300 euro range at best. For comparison, I got a brand new, still plastic wrapped, Intel T14G3 for 400 € not a month ago which I only caved in as it has Lenovo's premium extended warranty.

>>107343976
grim.
what panel is that?

>>107327164
epic wallpaper

>>107346731
how can you tell what part is the front and what part is the back?

Grok, is the Thunderbolt bug frying my T480's motherboard?

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which one /tpg/?

>>107349746
None of them. All three cost about twice as much as they should and have cheap stickers all over the keyboard.

>>107345593
The only cheap high-end Thinkpads I can find are all using 10th gen Intel, which is too shit for my needs.
This is the 'pad in question.
https://www.proshop.dk/Baerbar/Lenovo-Refurbished-ThinkPad-T14-G2-14-Core-i5-16GB-256GB-T1A-Grade/3340667?gad_campaignid=17490513354

>>107349746
naming your pic "local shop" while you're in Colombia or some shit it's pretty funny ngl

>>107349908
>Colombia
>euro

>>107342770
This. The Nano is severely underrated.

>>107351008
...Only for them to ditch it three gens later because having less ports on an excel sheet typewriter is a stupid idea.

I still don’t understand what model I’m supposed to get. I just need something that will survive a drop (accidents happen). Also would prefer touch screen, I like to draw sometimes.

>>107351476
X13 gen 2 yoga

>>107351589
Anything slightly older and cheaper? I am a poorfag.

>>107351624
X380 Yoga
X390 Yoga

>>107351476
X series never had that and the last T series that could survive a drop was T430 so no.

>>107351837
So all modern laptops are weak pos then? I assume cause of the thinness right.

>>107351902
I really wish there were rugged cases for Thinkpads.

>>107340695
My heart skipped a beat!

>>107340820
It's a drop-in replacement, literally the easiest shit in the world. Six screws altogether.
>And, would it work with a x230 too?
Yes, X220 and X230 use pretty much the same parts/chassis. I was actually thinking of buying another display to install on my X230, but I barely use it.

Check this website out, some cool info: https://mcdonnelltech.wixsite.com/x220

>>107329832
xx30 for classic
t480 for modern

>>107347354
the back is the top

this general is slow as FUCK nigga

>>107332092
>neovim
you'll never make a mil using that shit lmao

>>107355316
Unless Lenovo goes insane and decides to make X13 with 701C keyboard for the 35th anniversary, nothing exciting is happening here.

I got an X9-15 and its pretty sweet. No trackpoint fucking sucks but its got a bigger battery and screen versus the X1. Its pretty good for what I need it for, mostly media consumption and some linux stuff.

>>107357002
Why "ThinkPad" if no trackpoint? You could have bought something else instead of telling them with your money that they can get rid of it without consequences.

>>107357860
I'm pretty sure the trackpoint only exists because 5 ex-IBM boomers at Lenovo keep insisting rather than its popularity

>>107357860
>>107357976
i think the red dot looks aesthetic on the black computer, but i've never touched the thing

Which X1 generation has the best bang for buck? Is it worth waiting for new models to enter the second-hand market?

>>107359515
11

>>107359587
For AMD I assume. Hasn't Intel been on the same node and GPU since X1 gen 9?

I have a thinkpad P1 gen 1 and I fucking hate it bro. It's as bad as HP quality wise.

Things I dislike:
Thermal management is bad.
QC, I got the 3 year warranty and the list of parts that failed is too long imo.
Motherboard, screen, replaced in the first two months. I replaced the RAM myself after the original failing. I got like 5 replacement wifi chips. I upgraded the storage and since then I only had trouble with the RAM once, and when I inspected the slot itself I found some kind of smudge in there, I suspect this was there from the start since I use my computer in hygenic environments only.

I got a system76 pangolin instead, the only downgrade is the keyboard and a lack of nipple mouse. I can live with that if my system fulfils my needs.

>>107359732
I forgot to say the things I do like:
The linux compatibility is very good, even with the Nvidia P2000 combined with hybrid graphics has given me very little trouble.
The keyboard and trackpad palm rejection are excellent.
The 4K screen has excellent colours.
It can charge over USB-C and the proprietary charger.
The sleep/lid functionality works fine in linux.
The BIOS is actually more functional than my new system76 pangolin.
It's still good enough for day to day tasks and I'm running Pop!_OS Cosmic on it to see if can get it to work for me.

I was looking at the i7 x220 motherboards on AliExpress. Anyone here have experience with them? Looking to bring an old laptop back to life. They seem to go for about $130 including shipping.

I upgraded the screen and keyboard on my x200. What should I do with the old ones?

>>107360764
Recycle them at Best Buy.

>>107361019
They'll take my junk? That is very cool. I wonder if I can drop off old batteries too.

got drunk and bought a T450s thinking it was t420 so i could libreboot it. typing on it rn. no idea what im gonna do with this thing

>>107361045
Yeah, I've probably recycled several tubs worth of old electronic waste at Best Buy over the past decade or so. They have a great program and it's free for most items (except for monitors iirc). They don't take alkaline batteries, but they will accept rechargeable ones.

How long until Lunar Lake Thinkpads become affordable?

>>107361755
2028 or so. 2030 if your extremely poor

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so what do i do with this piece of shit? my sister had it laying around but didn't tell me the model

>>107362795
install Arch GNU/Linux. and use more swap

>>107362795
>didn't tell me the model
she sounds like a whore

>>107363455
and then give it back to her

>>107362795
It's a Yoga 11e (3rd gen). Celery processor is quad core but 6w. It's 5+ year old Chromebook tier performance.

Turn it into some kind of self-host server, use it as a spare travel machine you won't care if it gets stolen, wipe it and give it to a kid or an old person who needs to just check their email and pay bills, that kind of thing.

>>107357860
Its actually the cheapest laptop that met all my requirements of a 3K OLED without touch, lunar lake, and good linux compatibility.

>>107362795
Rape your sister.

>>107364039
and save the world

Can’t decide between t480 and t14. Two batteries in the 480 sounds nice but the newer cpu in the latter might be a better choice.
>>107362795
Just sell it. Someone right now could make good use of it.

what're the best places to buy used machines?
just buy off of ebay? or maybe refurbished stuff off of amazon or whatever?

>>107327164
I bought a T460s and sometimes when it's off the charger, it shuts down when battery reaches around 50%. Battery is good otherwise, i.e. when i start it back up battery is still at around 50% and it lasts for a good while so the battery's not bad, seems like a software issue, any ideas? running shitdows 10 pro

>>107364109
Faster CPU and better iGPU always reign supreme

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I think you're a faggot goysumer cattle (and tech illiterate, ironically) if you buy anything newer than the x30 series, by the way.
I cringe every time I read some faggot post about how they just bought a ThinkPad, how they're "part of the cult" or "fell for the meme" by buying a piece of shit nuPad. The profound ignorance of both the ThinkPad autist culture and computer processing power in general is just too much for me.
It's really no wonder this general has been dead for fucking years, a corpse fumbling around and kept alive by clueless midwits and the occasional oldfag nostalgia posting.
But hey, it keeps the prices low on the good stuff at least!

>>107364376
I don't remember asking

>>107364208
Guess you’re right

>>107364376
Maybe if the Internet stops being such a resource hog then I'm willing to get a T430 for $50.
I buy a laptop to use it

>>107364376
Not everyone runs tranny smol linux like you, some of us actually want modern software to do things.

>>107365182
>Not owning an X1 just to run a Linux desktop that takes less than half a gigabyte of RAM so you can use the rest for open tabs
Shiggy diggy.

>>107355316
Be the change you want to see in the world.

>>107365155
I dailied a T510 without a problem until 2020, and a T430 can have twice as much RAM and more than twice as much CPU. Do web apps really use more than 2x the resources they did five years ago?

>>107364157
ebay or local marketplace

Don't buy """refurbished""" unless you hate money and you like the idea of getting a random laptop out of a recycler's bin. They're almost always the absolute lowest specced clearance specials, assuming you even receive the model you purchased. Refurbishers do not give a fuck. They don't even clean them, they're in the exact condition they received them in.

>>107364376
>prices low on the good stuff at least!
LoL nigga, LMAO even. Dude but seriously my T520 goes on ebay for exactly what I bought it for 12 years ago. I WISH the prices were low.

>>107364376
unfathomably based
FUCK this tranny general

>>107364376
>>107367233
why are you trannies even mad in the first place

>>107367276
who hurt you?

>>107364376
xir, your clitty
it's leaking

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>1. Buy a new display with the same specs (60hz, low tier color, brightness, quality, etc, but cheaper)
>2. Buy a new display with better specs (120hz, better color, brightness, quality, etc, 2~3 times more expensive)
>3. Buy an external monitor and ignore the laptop's until the display completely dies and forces me to get a new one if I need it
Well?
Pic is not mine but it is the same problem mine's facing right now, probably even more extreme than example in pic
External monitor became an option because I very rarely leave the house anyway

>>107371170
Actually there's a hidden fourth option
>4. Buy a new display with better specs (same store as 2.), but store claims the screen's got "bright spots" (backlight bleed?), very affordable but risky purchase

I recently was given a E351 and was wondering how worthwhile it would be to upgrade that or if I should get one of the more popular T-series models?

>>107371170
Where are you at in the life cycle of this laptop? Barely hanging on and you're already eyefucking an upgrade, or new arrival/suits all computing needs and will for the foreseeable future? I wouldn't invest in the expensive option if it's already long in the tooth. Cheapo or external. External would be useful even after you move on to the next thing. But it doesn't solve your mobile computing display issue.

If you're going to keep it awhile and the external is more of an ergonomic downgrade, get the better panel.

>>107366860
What if the refurbished model comes from a high-profile electronics store with a 2 year warranty?

>>107371927
It is a ThinkPad P50 with Quadro M2000M
While old as fuck by modern standards, I honestly don't really see the need to upgrade anytime soon
It is emulating most PS2 games on PCSX2 at decently high settings and FFXIV at almost max settings if these works as computing examples (I'm not in tech field anymore, so my current "heavy" use cases are at most gaming or media at the highest encoding/quality possible)
I believe I can still do a lot with it if I cap the RAM and Storage until hitting a CPU/GPU bottleneck, so my next upgrade would be a desktop instead, but I don't plan to actually begin building a PC for another year or two

>>107372092
You still have to worry about the keyboard being worn-out shit underneath a thin layer of reprint, and possibly the whole body being covered with a skin. Also, for the power bridge models, many like to ship them with just one of the two batteries without telling you beforehand.

what should be the common temperatures in our thinkpads? for example t60 with intel t7200 and intel gpu

eBay still good these days? Everyone keeps saying don’t use Amazon

>>107357002
>>107357860
X9 (both 14" and 15") trackpad is genuinely MacBook-tier
No need for TrackPoint anymore

>>107372405
Me personally I'd opt for the high quality panel then. Treat yourself if you're going to keep it in production.

>>107372092
Slightly different scenario there if you get to put your hands on the actual laptop you're buying and you aren't a hobby tinkerer or just otherwise cba to do repairs or have downtime/spare device. In that case, in your shoes I might opt for a refurb.

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>Batteries for T420 and T480 are completely out of stock on Lenovo site
>But battery for T440 still available
huh?

>>107374428
Yes

>>107371170
Honestly, if you are not using it outside your desk, just get a cheap external monitor. I know just how expensive those panels can get, even for an old laptop like p50. I have a P52 and if something breaks on it, I just wont bother fixing it and just try to use as is. For the panel alone you can build a PC with the same performance as laptop in some cases. Laptops are a scam, thats why people still use X220 even in 2025, simply because replacement parts are usually close to free.

>>107375838
Sometimes (not always) you can buy laptops with trashed keyboards or pw locked or straight up bricked that have good displays for less than you can buy a bare panel.

>>107377475
But isn't it still a crapshoot that the display, even if it looks good, might have some other underlying issue?

>>107378315
Sure, it's a bit of a gamble. Gotta be priced cheap enough. If it's one of those eBay stores that has totally trashed laptops at the low, low discount of 10-20% under what a working unit would be, ignore those listings. Sometimes you can pick them up with "best offer" for a cheeky price if they want to unload it. Sometimes I think they're taking the piss with some of those listed prices.

Broken hinge units are common for a lot of laptops but all the parts are still good usually except for the case. Parts aside, if you want to try and run it anyway - I've even seen some people get crafty with 2-part epoxy and/or drilling for nut-and-bolt thru-holes if you don't mind the cyberpunk look and don't intend on abusing it.

So newer thinkpads have this rubbery like coating around the keyboard, whats a safe way to clean it? Isopropyl alcohol? I am obsessed with my devices being clean but dont wanna make the paint come off

>>107379528
>Isopropyl alcohol
will destroy the coating fast. I use a damp sponge first with a hint of soap, then without soap. If still dirty, try a magic eraser.

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I have thisT430 that was working fine until it recently started giving me a "Fan error" as soon as it starts.

The fan spins fast when I press the power button but it stops after that.
It seems like it spins freely just fine, the fan doesn't feel stuck or with friction at all when moving it by hand.

Any idea on what to look for? I disassembled the fan unit but didn't see anything strange. I cleaned it and it did the same.

Pic related, not my photo.

>>107380728
Oh I had the same problem on the T410. I never fixed it sorry.

How good are Panther Lake Thinkpads going to be?

So I'm still very happy with my t430 except for a major annoying thing which is the noise. I want to get a laptop with good gnu/linux support that's fairly quiet.

I was thinking about getting a refurbished x1 carbon, but i don't really know if they are good, maybe I'm ready to pay a bit more for a decent machine but preferably cheap.

So should be quiet + good linux support + more powerfully then the t430.

>>107383297
>the noise
turn off cpu turbo boost

>>107327164
How long does a typical T480's battery last? I got a refurbished one, and it lasts between 5-6 hours

>>107386427
That’s typical. Where did you buy it from?

>>107387550
MercadoLibre. It's like Latin American Ebay.

Is this thread to talk about laptops in general?

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>>107387624
business laptop with great value, not consoomer laptop. especially gayming ones, don't talk about them here.

>>107387830
Ok then there should be a thread to talk about regular laptops. Maybe I do it later.

Why are gaming laptops so bad compared to business laptops?

>>107387855
there were attempts to revive /lg/ but it keeps dying fast because zoomies prefer phones

>>107387860
Because they suck at what they purport to be.

>>107387860
Your laptop isn't a stove so higher wattage = more heat = dead laptop

>>107388795
skill issue

>P53 OLED
>$300
Is it worth it bros? It's OLED panel most likely 5 years old rn.

>>107389506
So you engineer your own cooling solutions. Tell us all about it.

>>107389996
It's called living in the first world where opening the window keeps it cool.

>>107390066
I live in Australia, it's fucking hot.

>>107390066
>what is condensation
water significantly shortens the lifespan of electronic components

>>107389634
if you can check it out in person and see what the burn in is like then sure

what do I even need a laptop for

>>107393227
If you have to use a computer outside or can't stand the enshittification of the smartphone.

>>107327164
Windows 11 was eating the ram of my x1 nano. Fans were always spinning and battery life declined. Switched to Debian 13 with kde and it’s running so much better. I love this little laptop. I use it mainly for freecad and playing RuneScape

>>107397134
>freecad
what do you design?

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>>107397134
>runescape and freecad
geninuely good to hear anon

>>107397151
Did I say freecad? I meant to type freecod. It's a fishing game, you fish cod and then you free them.

>>107397151
Random custom parts I 3d print. Examples would be a backpack hook for my desk that mounts to the screw holes for the legs, some led light legs/fixture holder, various jigs for woodworking. Custom led light body for suv. Just random things I want a custom solution for.
>>107397192
Thanks, it’s a peaceful life.

>>107393227
I use mine to watch anime in bed. Tablets are better if you lay on your side but if you lay on your back laptops are ideal. I have a big TV but I'm shortsighted so I need to wear glasses for a clear picture which I don't always want to do.

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yep, I know what to get in the next 3-4 years once the price has dropped reasonably. bring back sodimm slots to the 13 inch models

>>107401826
If they add a nipple to that I'm buying it new

>got a used dell latitude 3510
>be noob, didn't even open it, but was planning to
>works fine for a week
>one day randomly freezes, reboots to a bios error saying hard drive not found
>opened it, checked what's going on inside
>unattached and reattached the ssd
>didn't help
What has happened? When it started freezing, the first time it rebooted to a working system but almost immediately started freezing again. Then I could only get to a lock screen. Is it dead hard drive or bad hard drive cable?

>>107397134
Which gen? Gen 1 trackpoint driver sucks on Linux

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I have a Lenovo Thinkpad 10 (1st Gen with Intel Atom CPU Z3795, 4GB RAM, 128GB SSD) and two questions about it:

- The first one is out of curiosity. A dxdiag shows the system model as 20C10020AU but the refurbished sticker at the back states 20C3001QAU. Any difference or is it basically the same thing rebranded for different markets?

- Way more importantly, is this model too niche for Linux to handle? It's a multitouch tablet with a stylus and an ultrabook keyboard extension that I can add or remove like a dock. I was hoping to switch from W10 Pro to Linux Mint Xfce to unbloat the poor thing a bit and give that a try.

>Wanted a Thinkpad
>Wound up with a Yoga slim 6 OLED for 400 euros instead
Did I fuck up?

>>107338546
the problem with that is, security updates are no longer happening. it's a FULL end of life, not just "end of life but you still get security patches for major exploits" kind of thing. So if a major exploit is discovered you're basically fucked.

>>107407072
install windows10 on a pc without network card to use photoshop/autocad, and just use lunix or mac for the internet

>>107407072
>it's a FULL end of life
they're still making security updates and it's easy to pirate them

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>>107407072
>it's a FULL end of life
sorry, haven't noticed

Hello anon, my t450 it's starting to show it's age.
I tried to replace it with a cheap E15 gen 4, worst purchase in my life, build quality is good but the keyboard is abysmal and it does not feel like a thinkpad.

What is a modern t450 replacement, with similar size and with a similar keyboard?
Processing power and upgradability are still important to me, but the keyboard is by far the best part of my old laptop, I do not care about screen quality.

>>107409259
>with a similar keyboard
They don't make anything like it anymore. T14 G2 is the last one whose keyboard I'd willingly subject myself to.

>>107409374
Grim, so all modern ThinkPads are shit then?

I will probably go for the cheapest t480, then abandon ThinkPads forever when It dies.

>>107409487
Thery're all 1.3 to 1.5 mm travel with shrunken keys near the right edge now. That and extra-wide touchpads that you can't not touch while typing. I'm dailying my T480 as long as it's usable and thinking of switching to a heavily modded early T14 or L14 when the time comes.

T540p: after I power it on it shuts down after 2-3 seconds, no beeps or messages on the lcd. I tried removing the ram but then it beeps 1-3-3-1. Anyone know how I can fix it? Thanks

>>107410163
Memory sticks are probably shot.

>>107410163
Try removing dust/debris from the memory slots, reseat memory sticks.
If that doesn't work, try using just one memory stick (if you got multiple). If you only got one stick, try a different slot.
If that doesn't work, more than likely the memory stick(s) are bad and need replaced.
If the replacement sticks doesn't resolve the problem, the board's probably shot.

>>107410265
>If the replacement sticks doesn't resolve the problem, the board's probably shot.
Yes, and if that's the case - socket failure claims another one. You don't have these problems with soldered RAM.

>>107410298
>You don't have these problems with soldered RAM.
that's a stretch. if the ram stick itself fails, well you're fucked because you thought buying a laptop with soldered RAM was a good idea.

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Note: I don't have a multimeter to test the bad chip.

My T480 decided to get bricked one morning.

First, it did stop taking any charge (while plugged in). And after emptying its charge, it refuses to take any power. (The charging light doesn't light up; tried both USB-C ports.)

things I tried

Tested the 65W charger on another Lenovo device (the charger works).

Tested a 125w Lenovo charger on a T480; it doesn't work.

Bought a new yellow Lenovo plug-to-USB-C converter—doesn't work.

Tried powering up without any batteries -> doesn't work

Did check for any visible burn marks; it doesn't have any.

Before sending it to a repair shop, what could it be?

My first thought was batteries giving up (I have been using it without an external one for 5-6 months). But it doesnt seem like it.

Is it something I can do? How?

New to the thread, but I'm looking to buy a new laptop and I'm having trouble deciding. For reference, my current laptop is an HP model 17-by0017cy Notebook, but it's beginning to show its age and is literally starting to fall apart. Could you guys recommend a laptop that's comparable or better for a $600 to $800 price range?

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So, what will we get once the T480 dies?

>>107410265
tried switching the sticks and using only one on each connector but no luck. Could it be because I am powering it with a 65W charger?

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>>107327164
>T480 external battery by Kingsener bought 3 months ago
>last month, noticed that the battery is no longer charging
>try a few options, nothing seems to be fixing it
>find a solution finally -- going into bios and selecting "disable internal battery" and then plugging in my charge cord and turning it on seems to bring it back to life
>will charge to full, hold a charge just fine and slowly trickle down as much as I'd expect a battery to
>but eventually it stops charging again and I have to do the same bios trick

What's going on here? I already did a warranty claim and chang sent me a new one free of charge (and I don't know if it has this problem) but it's a really weird situation. I did just make sure my bios firmware was up to date in case that fixes it, i was some versions behind.

>>107329832
What's wrong with the new ones? I'm an old thinkpad user but I thought the new AMD Thinkpads seemed pretty sick. The only thing that I've seen that kinda looked awful was the cheaper keyboard with less travel. Which is a big one but I can't think of a modern laptop out there with good keyboards

>>107412156
I broke the plastic clip the first time I tried to upgrade the RAM. Quite flimsy

>>107411009
put "t480 pin reset button" in your search engine of choice and try that. I've revived a couple of Thinkpads that way.

>>107411455
The consensus opinion is usually the T14G5 since it has slotted RAM but it's pretty unremarkable otherwise.

>>107327164
>+ the TrackPoint
R.I.P.

>>107412156
Like >>107412609 said - they're just not as durable. Even the T480 is a cope in comparison to earlier models.

Bezels have gotten smaller, screens are arguably better, they're thinner and lighter and more energy efficient (not that it translates to exceptionally longer battery life), and so on. But none of them are going to live a hard life and still be functional or repairable 15 years later. They're disposable like any other electronic device now. The only major reasons to get a Thinkpad in this day and age is that 1. you're a keyboard autist (still marginally better than the competition) or 2. If you're a trackpoint zealot. Even Lenovo is trying to do away with the trackpoint.

>>107412930
You're neglecting to consider that, because everything else has gotten shitter also, they're still the one of the most durable machines on the market
The whole pack has gone down in quality but they've kept their relative position

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>>107411455
L14 G6 AMD for 14 incher
>3 fucking USB A + 2 thunderbolt
>2 sodimms
>uncucked wifi card
just sign me up

and this one >>107401826 for 13 inch ultraportable
If I can get one around 300 bucks for the next 2-3 years, I'd snatch P14s AMD G5 too

t. currently on T14 AMD G2

>>107412976
Yes but I'll challenge you a little on that - the margins are narrower these days. Used to be a power gap between Thinkpads and second place that made them a no brainer. Now less so.

I'm a keyboard autist and trackpoint zealot so I'm locked in regardless, but a modern unit's keyboard is what....maybe 15% better (admittedly subjective number for arguments sake) than the next best competition? I could see where a person that doesn't value those two features highly might pick a non-thinkpad for a particular build spec they do value at a particular price point. And I wouldn't automatically assume they made a bad buy or Lenovo had a significantly better product with the same spec at that price (or at a reasonable premium increase).

>>107335589
Thinkstations will do really well but you can equally consider Dell and HP small form factor PCs also, all very cheap and reliable for your use case

i love my T430 but gd the screen is shit and this is after replacing the original with a swap-in one form Aliexpress, i don't want to spend any more money on this, just sad

>>107375518
I've been using third-party off of fleaBay for my T440p and T540p. Just cherrypick from sellers offering 3-5year warranties on their batteries.

>>107353311
>>107340188
Nta but holy shit thanks I've needed to fix this for awhile

Is a T430 still worth getting ? what's the max upgrade I could do?

looking at a X13 Gen1 for about 28000 yennies.

●LENOVO ThinkPad X13 Gen1 / Ryzen 5 PRO 4650U (2.10GHz) / 16GB / NVMe SSD 256GB / 13.3 Full HD / Windows11 Pro (25H2)
20UGS2GK00

Seems pretty reasonable, I basically need it for browsing. Maybe some old games idk.
Thoughts?

replace the screw inside my laptop but new screws have no blue threadlocker on them, is this safe? shold i buy blue Loctite?

Are Amazon thinkpads a scam?

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>>107375518
Speaking of batteries, the external one for my T480 just recently died and I was quite surprised to see they were nowhere to be found on their website.
How screwed am I?

>>107415749
In my not so humble IMO it's only worth buying if you want the classic keyboard above all. It's easier and cheaper to install a good screen in a T440p or L440.

>>107416589
Not a bad price, at least for western standards, just mind the soldered RAM.

>>107417973
Many of them are. Missing batteries, reprinted keyboards, outright wrong models are common. Better to check what you buy in person.

>>107418011
Two options: either buy from an aftermarket seller with a good warranty/return policy and bother them until you get a good one, or look around for used OEM ones with little wear. You can transplant most T440-T460 external batteries into a T470-T480 battery case.

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>>107418402
>and bother them until you get a good one, or look around for used OEM ones with little wear.
That's the kind of hassle I hate the most and always try to avoid at any cost.

my trackpoint went haywire and is randomly pressing mouse 1,2 and 3 when i use the clit

My mommy wants to buy me one... X9 15 or T14s?

>>107421214
>X9 15
Literally no redeeming value, just get a MacBook or Surface instead
>T14s
Maybe if you're rich enough to get both max RAM (it's soldered) and accidental damage warranty (so you don't have to handle ~100 screws when you spill something on the keyboard)

So as I understand the current state of the ThinkPad lineup

Flagship: X1 series, X9 series
Premium: X series, P series
Mid range: T series
Budget: E series, L series

Is that right?

>>107421976
>X1
Flagship laptop, basically T14 but lighter, sacrifices are made to achieve said goals (No Ethernet port, no replaceable keyboard, soldered RAM), may introduce innovative feature from time to time (invented touchbar that Macbook stolen from)
>X9
Lenovo Yoga with a lipstick
>X
13 inch variant of T14, lighter
>P
Workstation
>T
The most relevant series to /tpg/
>E/L
Pretend they don't exist. There's a reason why all the pics of E/L Thinkpad posted here come from India.

>>107424383
>The most relevant series to /tpg/
After having tried an X1 Carbon, I would never settle for anything less. I have way fewer fond memories of the T I tried a decade ago.

>>107424383
Can you explain what's wrong with the L series? I'm in the market for a cheapo refurb laptop of some sort and frankly I'm seeing some of these with better hardware specs compared to T models where I am. Not super familiar with ThinkPad anything so please be nice :>

>>107424826
T series uses carbon fiber reinforced plastic for the chassis to not bend the motherboard when moving around.
E/L series are usually pure plastic, though they do start using aluminum chassis recently.

>>107424826
L series was shit but improved a lot starting from L530/L430

>>107421594
Is there something you think makes more sense to cop?

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>Crucial will no longer be a consumer brand
Fuck. They're the only ones who make 64 gig sodimms and I was hoping to wait for the RAM market to calm down but I guess I have to pull the trigger now. At least there's a bunch of companies who sell M.2 SSDs.

>>107427090
AI bros should be hanged, drawn and quartered in Minecraft

>>107424826
I don't have much experience but some L series are even better than T series
T440p > L440 > T440s > T440
my L460 had a better build quality than my T14 G2

>>107412903
werks on my machine

>>107426891
There isn't any model that I'd willingly buy new anymore. The features that were once a given for anything with the ThinkPad sticker are spread one by one across the brand such that nearly every model has a fatal flaw. The closest to meeting my bar would be
>P16
Basically a ThinkPad in all senses but the off-center keyboard excludes it for me
>P1
Good build, reasonably modular, but no Ethernet and keyboard is hard to replace
>P14s Intel
Smaller, cheaper version of P1 with Ethernet
>T14
Small and reasonably modular with replaceable keyboard but shamefully cheap build with flex, creaking etc.

>>107424826
It depends on the model. L430-L470 and L530-L540 wre fine, L14/L15 G1-G2 too apart from the retarded choice to fragment the palmrests and motherboards. Lx80-Lx90 meh, flexy and prone to cosmetic cracks. L560-L570 and L13 G1-G2 avoid at all costs, chassis breaks easily.

>>107427586
Second this, love my L440.

Is it worth upgrading my T430 or should I get a newer one? I just need it for school and youtube.

>>107429142
what specs?

>>107429160
i5-3320M
NVS 5400M
8GB ram
1600x900 TN
backlit modern keyboard but I don't mind it

>>107429142
>>107429227
Probably fine if you're not something to stress it like photo/video editing or CAD. It should be adequate at being an Office and media machine, might chug a little if you try to speed up youtube. Keep in mind that generation has slotted ram and no one cares about DRR3, so you could buy used or new old stock for cheap.

>>107429142
You'll be fine with the T430, if you need more you can always upgrade later. My X220 got me through high school and university, it's still going strong as my main laptop. I have a work laptop too which I remote into from my X220.

Honest question: why do people buy refurbished ThinkPads for programming if it's not purely about having a tiny budget? What do they actually program on them?
I just bought a brand-new ThinkPad because my 5-year-old one was starting to run out of breath. When I open a dozen or so tabs, run a few containers, fire up an IDE, etc., a 5-year-old laptop already feels like it’s struggling quite a bit.
How do you guys manage to work on ThinkPads that have, for example, an Intel Core i5-8xxx series (8th gen)? Is it even possible to get real work done on something like that?

>>107418011
Is it feasible to replace the cells only?

>>107430024
>containers
>IDE
found your problem.
But seriously, it's like you're describing a different world. I run Android Studio and an Android VM without a problem on my T480 (i5-8350U). My T14 G1 (R7 4750U) regularly handles VS Code, IntelliJ, and two Debian VMs with a handful of containers in each at once. Both laptops have the CPU undervolted but I don't think that explains the difference between unusable and usable.

my lcd cable borked and there's no replacement available

owari da

>>107428337
not present on my x9

>>107431071
>not present on my fake thinkpad
lmao

>>107431553
sometimes a fake is better than the real thing

>>107431849
sounds like denial