>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use casesState BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8>CPUGaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500FWorkstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67TIM: MX-6, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet*Most listings online are not actually 7950>RAMDDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)>SSD (Keep firmware updated)Budget: SN7100, NM790High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)Premium: SN8100https://borecraft.com/>GPUBudget: Arc B580, 9060xt 8gb (~$270)-Used: 2080, 2080ti*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080pMidrange: 5060ti 16GB, 5070-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)4k : 5070ti, 9070xt-Native: 5090>PSUBuying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITOR1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X71440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED)4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)
>News & RumorsMemory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027RTX 50 Super, 2026 launch? 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super. Potentially cancelled, likely q3 if still being releasedNova Lake 2026Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"AMD FSR "Redstone" Arrives December 10, Exclusive to Radeon RX 9000 Series>Product NoticeGigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/>PSU Reviewshttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplieshttps://www.lttlabs.com/https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-suppliesFor tier-list enjoyers:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/>Storage Reviewshttps://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSDhttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews>Monitor Hunterhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/>Other helpful LinksMobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PCGerman autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.Pic:Previous:>>107349474
>>107353216There unironically should be international laws stopping a company from buying from buying everything in advance and without warning. What Open AI did was genuinely disruptive. They single highhandedly killed the DIY market, but are also fucking over the competition in the data center space. Pure bullshit, man.
>>107353216>tfw you joked about ram costing more than gpu's and then it came trueWe live in the matrix, this timeline can't be real.
what kind of msi matx mobo should i be buying for a 9800x3d i see those things run extra toasty
>>107353508>Buy DDR5 6000 cl30 for $144>Sell DDR5 for 3x what you paid>Buy PS5
>>107353498I do have to wonder if there's going to be more of "just fucking buy everything so no one else can have any" coming out of hyper rich people and corporations in the coming years. Sorry, no more hammers for the carpenters, we bought them all.Feels weird this can happen I guess.
>>107353518All mATX boards suck. But I guess you could consider the Mortar.
>>107353540We're getting to the point where certain people or groups have enough money and power that they could corner any market they choose. It's kind of a miracle things aren't more fucked up than they are.
Poors wouldn't be poorer now if they future-proofed 5 years ago. That's what you get for waiting this long.
I'm crying, screaming and shitting my pants as I spend 800$ on 96GB DDR5-6000 CL32
Njudea couldn't be possibly this jewish r....right?https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/nvidia-reportedly-no-longer-supplying-vram-to-its-gpu-board-partners-in-response-to-memory-crunch-rumor-claims-vendors-will-only-get-the-die-forced-to-source-memory-on-their-own
I have two 8GB DDR4 ram sticks, are these good enough for my 3060 12gb?
Just discovered that the CRITICAL issue with MSI motherboards being extremely (100%) permissive in their default Secure Boot settings is still totally a thing. Know for over two years and they still ship boards like that I guess.
>>107353602If it's all you got, then yes.
>>107353584You don't need 96gb. You would be fine with 64 cl38.
>>107353608What's the issue? I just built a system with an MSI board... Is it what this guy is saying?https://dawidpotocki.com/en/2023/01/13/msi-insecure-boot/
>>107353608what?
>>107353608>wanting microsoft to decide what you can and cannot do with your computertruly demonic
>>107353624I'm building for AI not gayming.
>>107353630>>107353634Yeah, they basically have it set up so that it's doing absolutely nothing by default.>>107353644I added my own keys.
>>107353216>Mugen 6 Dual Fan,I can't find this shit anywhere
>>107353651I've seen this place shit on secure boot as crap that can brick your pc. I wasn't ever planning on using in the first place so I don't see the problem unless you are expecting robbers to break into your home, steal your pc and try to sell it for scrap.
>>107353584i paid that much for my gpu last march goddamn
>>107349072>panel in native color rangeWhat does this mean? Does it apply if I am using a tv?
>>107353508Everyone kept wishing Apple's RAM upgrades weren't so much above the rest of the market, and now the monkey paw has come out to play.
Getting to the point (and age too) where i wonder why the fuck i even bother to build a new pc. There's nothing to play, all the good games are older and can be played on a fucking 1070.
What settings should I use here? I don't know what any of this means.
>>107353776Highest, 10bit or 8bit if no 10bit, RGB, Full.
>>107353216Hos does this build look?https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/ztZdpKUnsure about the case, how's the corsair triple chamber one?My intent is to have the CPU outlast the CPU, was thinking about switcing to 9800x3dthoughts?
>>107353792It can do 10 and 12 bit. Should I do 12 if it's available? Also what do the numbers mean? ycbrcr ect? Which one of those should I choose?
>>107353797looks ok
Are asrock motherboards still housefire tier?
So if you click the white option there's much more stock. Why is everyone buying up all the black?
>>1073537979800x3d is set to age like milk with zen6 being that much better. I recommend that you spend less on the CPU and get a faster GPU instead
>>107353811:)
>>107353584> aiIf you're upgrading the RAM on an existing PC - carry on, and my condolences OpenAI did you dirty like this.But if you're tryna build an entirely new PC for AI, maybe consider Strix Halo instead.Strix Halo machines with 128GB tend to be around $2k.Your RAM is 40% of that price all by itself, only gives you 75% the RAM capacity, and running on CPU will likely give you fewer tokens/s than Strix Halo with its quad-channel RAM too.
This is why RAM prices have tripled. I hope you are happy.
>>10735380610bit is enough, I doubt you have 12bit content. As for the 4:4:4 4:2:2 4:2:0 you can read here.https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/chroma-subsampling
I hope everything becomes so expensive game devs are forced to optimize for a 4060 for the next decade
>>107353814interesting take, what GPU would you suggest instead?
Dude fuck G.SKill, dogshit brand and it's the only one not selling. Not buying dogshit.
>>1073538449070xt or 5070ti
So, trying to understand SSDs:- SSDs are by nature unstable and rely on constant error correction, so while QLC is even worse than TLC in this, practically it just kinda doesn't matter? Pray that your SSD controller does a good job with this, and cold storage is incorrect usecase. Despite the lower endurance, QLC is still good for 10-20 years.- Otherwise the only downside of QLC is slower write speed which doesn't matter for most usecases due to 100GB+ SLC caches.- Game load times on any NVME is about half of SATA ssd (HUB test), regardless of speed- Sequential speed is pretty much irrelevant for gaming, random reads and latency are much more important (claim), however I can't find any reliable benchmarks about game performance, asset loading, traversal stutter etc. which obviously depends on storage. HDDs make some games almost unplayable, so I'd imagine that SSD performance matters. What's the best benchmark for this or should you even bother and just buy the cheapest one? And Samsung apparently gaming some benchmarks: https://old.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/172cxyi/does_anyone_know_more_about_the_pcmark_10_full/https://www.tomshardware.com/features/ssd-benchmarks-hierarchySo basically just buy the cheapest non-bottom of the barrel one and hope it doesn't have any fatal flaws? Not sure if it's worth paying for a brand.
>>107353834Imagine if cat's were this big irl. Also it's kind of funny that the quest for more cat videos will bring down modern civilization.
>>107353834When will Google's or any other companies' ASICs kill Openai and Nvidia for good?
>>107353835Appreciate the info.
>>107353748I'm almost in your boat but I've started enjoying playing old games and pumping resolution for visual fidelity while targeting 120 fps, which still takes some decent hardware. No need for a 5090 or anything but it's not free to do this either.But for the most part almost anything good is 10+ years old, low spec indie graphics, or from a SNES, N64, Gamecube or PS1/2 and I'm finding it harder and harder to justify it all. I kind of wish everything I wanted to play ran on a refurbished Dell Optiplex.
I have used the same pc since 2015. Its a ddr3 motherboard with 8gbs of ram. M task manager says I have A6-7310 with Radeon R4 Graphics. This has shaped what games I could play. Most indie games
>>107353624nta but
>>107353811white PC parts are ugly duh
>>107353834anon, nobody is genning that shit on CPU
This whole ram thing feels like some kind of elaborate pump and dump. Someone bought the entire industry and is now scalping it for profit. If someone bought all the ram some big cpu AI model, then wouldn't that make it notoriously expensive and unprofitable to run assuming market price? Or did they somehow get away with not paying the market price? Wouldn't it be more profitable for the industry sell to everyone at only a slightly elevated price? Or is this just a big cartel between the chip manufacturers? Make it make sense.
I live in a third world country and just saw some poor bastard that seems to not know what he has in his hands and is selling his pc for $1600b760 asus motherboard32gb DDR5-6400intel I7 12700kf4070ti Super1000w evga power supplyit even has all the rgb fans and shit, im seriously considering blowing most of my savings on this thing just because ram prices will spike even harder next year, anyone willing to tell me if this is a good deal. I'm somewhat retarded
FOMO is starting to hit me bad, which one do I buy?
>>107353938the more memory you have, the less efficiently the os manages it. go look at how much ram and page file you're using on a system with half the ram and the exact same processes running — you might be surprised
>>107353687More and more things seem to be requiring it. Might as well have it working properly.
>>107353834Frankly, I am. The AI Videos give me a chuckle, especially the fucked up/dark humor ones, and the model I pay to use answers any and all questions I have about the world, and can do stupid calculations for me on the fly. Much more useful than crypto.
>>107353874>So basically just buy the cheapest non-bottom of the barrel one and hope it doesn't have any fatal flaws?Yes.Without trying to dismiss you too much, don't overthink it. You will realistically not be able to notice any difference between SSDs in gaming contexts. Any SSD, even a shit one, is better performance wise than any HDD. Everything you mentioned about traversal stutter/asset loading/etc. is irrelevant, SSDs are still too slow to avoid this problem and you address it by having data loaded from the SSD in RAM or VRAM way before the player ends up in the new location. Devs just suck ass and fail at this. SSDs help --minimize-- this problem compared to an HDD, but they do not remove it, they just lower the worst possible case time if it happens. Also those problems can be caused by other non-storage related issues (shader compilation, for instance).
Is 27" the best size for desktops?
I'm starting to get nervous. My 1200MHz DDR3 and 2600k i7 is starting to bottleneck my 1070 a bit for 1080p gaming. I think I waited too long to upgrade...
>>107353987is your computer broken?no?then don't buythe bubble is going to pop in a few months, since this shit has cranked too hard too fast to be sustainableAI is trying to be the new tulip mania, and is going to detonate like it too
Should I install Windows 11 IoT Enterprise 25H2 Build - 26200.6584 or Windows 11 LTSC 2024 Build - 26100.1742?Which one is less jewish (invasive)? Which one has less AI shit? Which one is safer?
>>107354107Entirely new computer my dude.
>>107354111older is always better unless you absolutely need something specific
>>107354117you picked the single worst time imaginable to make a new rigliterally not a single time worse than now to do it
>>1073541262020 was worse
>>107354123Eh they're probably gonna force me to update anyways. I expect it to be kiked to shit since I'm gonna have to do gymnastics to bypass the microsoft account shit anyways. So not counting the build, 11 IoT Enterprise or 11 LTSC? I don't even know what the difference is
>>107354126I'm not making a gaming PC, so the only thing that is overpriced on my list is RAM.
With respect to the Gigabyte Thermal Gel issues in the OP, has there been any recent reports or news on that? The article is 6 months old (and so are the r*ddie comments about this topic) so I was wondering if Gigabyte has gotten their act together in the past 6 months.I have a 5000 series gigabyte gpu that I bought recently, just waiting for the case and psu to be delivered before I assemble.
>>107353836"Game devs" will be AI. And Sam Altman wins again.
>>107354089You're going to need a really tiny mousepad for such a small desk.
>>107353987What the fuck is with you guys considering or actually buying 128 or even 64 gigs of RAM?what are you doing with it all? I have 32 gigs and that feels overkill, I could probably get away with 16.
>>10735413926100 doesnt require you to do any online shit. just use rufusi would personally install iot enterprise ltsc but it might not have some deps ootb like dot net or certain MSVC versions so do whatever you want
>>107354169>iot enterprise ltscAren't they different? Massgrave has them listed as separate downloads
>>107354179iot has less deps ootb
>>107354168lol I'm building an AI PC chill I've said ti a million times
>>107354142They reduced the amount of goo within a month of that report and it's a non-issue now
>>107354214Hope so, I'll take a close look when opening the package for my gpu.
>>107353834oh lawd he cominbig OUNCE, professional street nyagger
>>107353216I bought a 128GB DDR4 Kit (F4-3600C18Q-128GVK) for 220€ in february because I suspected that DDR4 production would be halted soon after and I didn't want to be caught with my pants down like I did with DDR3.What money could I get for it if I sold it and used my old 32GB kit (F4-3200C16D-32GVK) it replaced?
>>107354107lmao. you are so uneducated
Is it true I can OC my 12900k to run DDR5-6000 at the full 6000MHz? I'm new to this sector of autism. Are there risks to doing this?
>scalp 5090s>sell them and buy ram>put them on the vault together with the gold ingots>???>profit
>>107354246nothing because nobody wants DDR4 you freak
somebody please explain to me what in the absolute fuck openAI wants with all the ramdon't they fucking use gpus? wtf
>>107353976On paper, you get great value for a low budget build. The cpu is 12th gen, sparing you from the later gen's problems, 4070 ti super makes the bulk of the value here, PSU and RAM are way more than enough but welcome here.The only thing I don't know is the specific mobo when you say b760 asus: you can have the Prime which doesn't include Wifi and has a VGA port(!) on it or you have the TUF/Strix mobo that has Wifi and are pretty much the same except Strix has RGB lighting on it and can use 6GHz wifi.Either way, if you really need it and you can ignore rgb on the build, go get it.
>>107354246It's a niche product, most people on DDR4 don't have a CPU with a good enough IMC to run such a kit at full speeds and 100% stability, and those who do (Threadripper users) probably have enough memory already.
I wish RAM heatsink designs weren't so cringe these days.
>>107354288Use your brain a little. For every Nvidia GPU they plug in they need CPU+RAM.
fuck it I won't upgrade my current PC I'll do it after I finish building my RAM-gouged 2nd PC
>>107354295
>>1073542646000 is perfectly normal for that CPU, you shouldn't need to change anything besides enabling XMP if the memory and motherboard play nice.
>>107354301so why the fuck are gpu prices stable (if still elevated) whereas ram has done nearly 3x?
>>107354317It's basically the least-worst one. It's still got a big ass brand logo on it and "Expert" as if that fucking means anything.
>>107354329The GPU prices are all going up at the start of next year. DDR5 stopped production pretty much back in summer.
>>107354329The GPUs in datacenters use HBM, not GDDR. They do share the same production capacity on some fundamental level but switching takes time and money, so for now regular GPU memory is still being made and sold at pretty much the same rate.
>>107354365which leads back to my question: if gpu prices are stable, presumably that means that AI companies are purchasing at a stable rate. so why the fuck is ram spiking? i assume that the amount of ram needed per gpu has not changed
>>107354402I doubt you will find a ddr5 ram kit with a manufacture date of last month or this month. It's all from Q2-Q3.
>>107354248well then Megamind, tell us the truth of the matterYou led off with an ackchully so now you need to follow through
worst black friday ever in the history of mankind
>>107354426your stupidity and ignorance was already on full display, so i need say nothing more. i just replied to laugh at you
>get am5 mobo>bent pins
Friendly reminder I'm very happy with my m27p6 purchase!
Shouldn't prices for motherboards, processors, monitors, ect drop substantially in the coming months since the ram situation will completely kill all PC building?
>>107354456I also got one.It's pretty nice and I'm not even a tranime faggot.
>>107354461They can keep prices high by slapping AI on the box. AI accelerated CPU, AI programmed UEFI motherboard, AI enhanced image clarity monitor, etc.
Does this dude really think this is gonna be the new permanent price range of RAM or something?
>>107354295You will realistically never see it after installing it so who cares?
>>107354501Stop coping waitnig. You lost. Go wait 20 years more for your next build kekkers!
>>107354504Exactly. Make that shit a black box.
Is there such a thing as too many wireless peripherals? I have a wireless keyboard and mouse right now. If I added a wireless Mic or headphone would there be any sort of conflict or dropped signals? Could it effect my pc in any noticeable way?
>>107354453How do you fuck up the pins btw
>>107354509Are you for real?
>>107354473But if literally noone is buying why would they do that? Retailers have overhead and have to sell inventory. Motherboard, monitor, and peripheral manufacturers can't just pause business for months or years either now that the RAM sector fucked them.
>>107354473>slapping AI on the boxThey've been doing it for 20 years
>>107354523There's zero reason to use a wireless keyboards. Only retards do it. Mice and headsets are understandable.
>>107354543There is one reason and it's for my situation when you aren't sitting at the desk.
>>107354527I dunno man, I got it and noticed the shine on the pins wasn't uniform but didn't thin anything of it until I set everything up and it refused to boot. After going through literally everything I finally took the CPU out and had a closer look and like 2-3 of the pins were flat against the back.
>>107354530People will always buy cpus and motherboards as long as they keep buying gpus and ram.Monitors and other peripherals can get fucked but they have other use cases as well. Normies watch TV and YouTube, headphones and speakers can be paired with other shit.
>>107354246Your best bet would be to split it into 2 64gb kits, and even then it may not sell for unreasonable prices. We'll know in a month or 2, but I'd expect ddr4 pricing to come back down to reality in 2-3 months. There's probably still some demand though. At least I looked around for a 64gb kit of b-die to replace my 32gb b-die kit but decided the prices were already too ridiculous for my taste. Thought about trying to sell a 16gb b-die kit which I replaced with the 32gb but decided to hold on to see what happens next year because I wouldn't mind holding onto it.
>>107354501It's going to be like this for a while.RAM has a history of price fixing and literal cartel antics. Prices will spike and then gradually ratchet down as demand and price overlap until normal prices and demand returns. But for a while there's going to be a period of >RAM is only twice as expensive as it used to be, so that's a price I'm willing to pay over waiting for things to improve.
>>107354528kekkers+satania = probably
>>107354558>buying gpus and ramThe point though is no one is going to be able to afford ram, so they won't be building PCs, so they won't be buying the other parts.
>>107354554The cover protects the pins during shipping. If you saw the defect as you lift the lid you should have returned it asap.
>>107354575Companies can afford the ram. Business goes on. Poorfags get priced out but they are still buying phones.
>>107354581I don't think companies are the ones buying all this RGB "gamer" ram. I think it would be more likely to see them buying the cheapest stuff they can get away with.
say it with me now: CAPITALISM. IS. FRIGGIN. EPIC.
I hope RAM prices keep increasing while I enjoy my new pc build bought before the price leaps happened... God, seeing all these waitfags get humiliated makes me wanna cum
>>107354581Companies aren't going to be buying gaming computer MBs and monitors on even a small fraction of the scale that currently goes to the consumer market.
>>107354576Should have, didn't. Down $400 kangaroo coins for nothing.Sucks to suck I guess.
>>107354598>>107354612The prebuilt market is bigger than you guys think. Way bigger than your niche PC building obsession.
>autistically decide to sidegrade my 6000 mhz 36CL DDR5 (one of the first DDR5 batches too) to a kit of 32GB 6000 mhz 30CL KLEVV Chadbolt for 120€ 6 months ago>kept the old RAMs just in caseI bet i could sell that 36CL junk for 350€ easy but these days it's unironically smarter to fafnir hoard spare parts like this
>>107354629The moment you sell it, your current RAM will explode and you'll wish you had the spare kit.
literal niggers itt incapable of thinking outside the immediate present
https://www.komplett.no/product/1300751/datautstyr/pc-komponenter/vifterkjoelingvannkjoeling/kjoelepasta/asus-rog-rg-07-kjoelepasta-kitbuy the kit or just the tube?33 bucks vs 17
>>107354625Prebuilts will also be unaffordable for the enormous majority of the current market next year. Price increases are already happening there.
>>107353851Weird I've used GSkill for many builds and had zero issues...
>>107354651Seethe more, you'll never get your old ram prices back LMAO
>>107354602capitalism is the only reason this shit exists at allcommunism is anathema to tech manufacturing, the corruption that defines the system prohibits the precision quality that even primitive tech needs
>>107354606>>107354674Doesn't work against us ojisans. We're patient.
>>107353851Works fine on my machine!
>>107354655People looking for a prebuilt on budget will get covered by the Steam Cube atleast
>>107354681Sadly this lesson has to be relearned every generation. The kids won't understand it until they get their tiktok and tendies taken away.
>>107354683Enjoy being patient in your grave
>>107354706Death is just the ultimate waitfaggotry until your spirit gets recycled in the next big bang reset.
>>107353748Same and I’m literally only fucking 22.
>>107350055>new 9800X3D for $230 (USD)Where can I buy stolen goods? Do I need to walk behind my local best buy and look for someone lurking in the bushes?
>>107354694We have no clue what Gabecube will cost. They aren't gonna take a loss of RAM surely.
>>107354736Anything between $700-900Which is budget as fuck for a prebuilt
>>107354750The problem is it is being marketed as a console replacement. The people who would actually need this thing are not people who would consider 700+ dollars as acceptable to play games in their living room.
>>107354750In this market it's gonna have like 8gb of DDR5 for that price.
do I REALLY need DDR5 ram? DDR4 is still really cheap in comparison and AI firms are snapping up all the 5's
>2x16 ddr5-6000 cl30 in transiti don't think i've ever been this anxious for a parcel in my entire life
>>107354655Dell and the like have warehouses full of RAM.Christmas is saved.Just learn to appreciate their shit case design from 1978.
>>107354818Ddr4 is gonna cuck you in the future of 1 to 2 years, but if you're poor go for it!
I have 64gb of ram. Theoretically if one of the sticks dies, can I just live off of the single stick and be ok?
>>107354819usps is playing football with it
I just pull the trigger now, yeah? nothing on amazon is gonna go on sale if I stay up overnight
>>107354829why would it cuck me?
>>107354818if you're still on AM4 then DDR4 is all you can buy.
>>107354850I don't think black friday works like it did in the past. The sales we got this week are going to be the same until the end. Maybe a few random deals here and there. If you see some thing that is historically cheaper now I would just pull the trigger. Worst case you return it and get the cheaper thing if you find a new deal tomorrow.
>>107354851ddr6 arrives in 2026-2027. its like still using ddr1 when ddr3 is arriving.
>>107353776what program is that?
>>107354859I figured. It's mostly appliances and random things like storage drives and chinese junk that go on sale, not so much higher end PC hardware, especially in this market. My system comes out to around $1500 and I think i'm comfortable with that. I haven't upgraded in a decade so this thing will feel like space age technology
>>107354884that's the nvidia control panel.
Black Friday is dead. I refuse to get excited about 20 dollars below MSRP when the MSRP was inflated to hell and back in the first place. 300 dollars used to get you a 70 series card.
$10 per tbi am very tempted. i paid this much for 8tb a few years agohttps://www.newegg.com/seagate-barracuda-st24000dm001-24tb-for-daily-computing-7200-rpm/p/N82E16822185109?Item=N82E16822185109
>>107354873so what the fuck is the point of buying 5 if its going to be out of date too
>>107354888I would check amazon/newegg/bestbuy/walmart. Sometimes one will have a better deal than the other. If there is a microcenter near you that's even better.
>>107354895i don't see it. maybe mine is old.
>>107354901>seagate
Are there any kinds of games that would specifically benefit from being on a gen 5 nvme instead of a gen 4? I got a 1tb gen 5 specifically just for windows and small programs but was wondering if it might be a good idea to put whatever game I was currently playing on there instead of on my secondary larger gen 4 drive. Or would there most likely not be any noticeable difference?
>>107354920It was at the bottom of this tab.
>>107354901>gate of seas
>>107354921i have a bunch of seagate. they're fine.
>>107354873DDR6 may see enterprise use in 2027 but on the consumer side it's gonna be retarded expensive until like 28 or later. Remember DDR5 was supposed to launch in 2018 originally and didn't actually until 2020. Noone was affording that shit back then either and in this market every ounce of DDR6 will be gobbled by AI companies for a long ass time.
>>107354706My current rig plays everything that I want to play with the performance which I seek. Thank you for your concern though.
>>107354934oh thanks
>DDR5 ram prices are through the roof.Looks like I'm stuck with my Steam Deck and BC-250
Do all Super Flower PSUs have a 10 year warranty?They can't be bothered their brown flowers to write it anywhere on their website.
I built a pretty badass machine last black Friday (9950x, 96gb cl30 6400mhz trident z neo I think)I already had a 6900xt, got a handmedown 3060ti from a bud to put in my 3950x box (the covid build)Long story short I'm waiting on microcenter to drop the price of 7900xtx's to $599 because I just want the 24gb vram for VR shitIs this my best option? Are GPU prices gonna go up the next few months? Basically asking if I should buy at $699 (ASRock or powercolor models iirc)
>>107355113That's what amd said recently
>>107354873no it's not. the difference in processing power in the timeframe between ddr1 and ddr2 alone dwarfs ddr3-ddr5
>>107353216i wanna upgrade to an x3d cpu but only the 5600x3d works with AM4 and i dont wanna rebuy my 32gbs of ram in this economy. the 7600x3d seems so perfect
>>107354706I will correct you, you little shit.
I've got about $500 together to upgrade my current PC. I'm hoping for at least 60 FPS in any title at 1440p. Here are my current specs.https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MtczBq
>>107353834totally worth it
Shall I get the Gigabyte MO27Q28G Tandem OLED monitor? It will be my second monitor besides my ktc m27p6. I have a 5070ti, and while it can run 4k, I sometimes prefer getting double the fps on max settings. It's 520€ where I live. Worth it? Or are there better options? I like it cause it's a very new monitor with relatively good features.
>>107355371Best upgrade would be a 9060 xt and a 2tb gen 4 nvme drive. The rest of your build still holds up.
>>107354606The price of waitfagging is eternal vigilance.
>'tistic buddy wants to get a gaming pc with a 500ish budgetwhat do i tell him
>>107355511Tell him to pray that the Steam Machine is that price.
I want to buy storage. 8 TB or more. It doesn't have to be fast, so I was thinking a hard drive would be good. I just want it to last and I want to buy 2 so I can have them in RAID 1.Are any of these good?
>>107355525If you're going to be using raid might as well buy the cheapest one. It is going to fail but you spend far less money and lose none of your data
Just got a 5090. How much power limit u guys doing?
>returned tv and had to pay 100 bucks return fee>packaged everything tv, cables, remote>realize I left one sheet of paper being the start up assembly bitch guideI swear to God if I get an additional -15% reduction or something because of missing things
>>107355571664W
How is this build? Got it to $1600 pre-tax CAD with a bundlehttps://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/3gXtwY
>>107355660It's okay but it won't POST because there's no RAM
>>107355672Shit thanks, I knew I forgot something
>>107355672True, but adding RAM would probs double the PC's cost.
>>107355577>return feewhat third world shithole do you live in that such a thing would even exist
>>107355653> 2 watts below the satan threshold
>>107354901>smr
I thought vrams built into graphics card were what mattered when it came to ai gens? Why are people talking about buying 64gb+ of ram for ai?
>>107354654i can not recall applying the paste was a problem with just the syringe. surely you just check the temps after booting to check if it was okay, right?
>>107355683You forgot shit, you knew it was either the GPU or some lame amount of ddr5. No need to be ashamed, it's not our fault.
>>107355745VRAM is best across the board but models are getting too large to be run on gpus alone, now needing to be run on CPU with the GPU layered on to speed it uprule of thumb is the size of the model is how much (V)RAM you need to run itquantized models chop the size dramatically, but for many you're still looking at 100+gb
>>107354923I read about this for two minutes and it seemed like even choosing the best of gen4 was a waste.Since you have both, you could benchmark it yourself?
>>107355660I can make it $40 cheaper, Anon:https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0FGDQ6NCV
>>107353836Trvke. You shouldn’t need more anyway
what do you think about this build?planning to buy a second hand 7800x3d (~250€) and wait for zen6 to buy the new gen x3d
>>107355942https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/v6NH6Q
>wait 1 day>$210 32gb ram sold out and is now $330+owari da...
>stuck on AM4 with a 7900XTX because of RAM prices
>>107353216i boughted RAM (i can't afford to pay rent)
>>107356271i also had to settle with 32GB because 64GB was too much
>>107353834this almost makes it worth it
I STILL CAN'T CHOOSE A CASE
>>107356271why did u boughtered
I need help Last week i finally built my new pc. I put arch on it, which ive used for a good half year now. But today im getting a kernel panic whenever i try to boot. With this error: Loading Linux linux Loading initial ramdisk error: fs/fshelp.c:find_file:260:file `/initramfs-linux.img' not found. Press any key to continue.... How do i fix this? Ive tried doing a clean install but the uefi isnt recognizing the thumbdrive with the iso as bootable, despite being the same drive i used to format the pc in the first placeWhat can i do?
Picrel is $500 right now, should i go for it?
>>107353834that's a heckin chomnker
>>107353834HOLY FOOK
>>107356359"thumbdrive with the iso as bootable"how did you get it to the thumbdrive? did you just dd it across? obvious but check that secure boot isn't enabled. have you checked smartctl for health status? you say you've done a clean install so it's definitely not a basic "i ran out of disk space while updating my system and the initramfs didn't generate properly" issue. if you did the partitioning on the drive manually, you didn't forget to actually create the FAT32 filesystem, right? is /initramfs-linux.img actually there? if not can't you frankenstein copy another initramfs to it? have you tried: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=277800
What's the best way to unbloat and remove telemetry from windows 11?
>>107353599Nvidia could keep the price manageable if they wanted to. They clearly don't. Fucking over board partners once more. This is exactly the sort of shit why EVGA quit.Massive GPU price spikes incoming. Buy your GPU NOW.
>>107356401>oledi hope you don't plan on using it for general stuff like browsing
>>107356451My weekly computer usage became very light after starting a 9-5 deskjob. Basically around 12 hours per week of general browsing and gaymin
>>107353948retard
>>107353993Dipping into the page file is slow as fuck. If you can max out your memory doing stuff you normally do you should have more.
>>107353834>2025>not torrenting your ram
>>107356358i fucked up and waited too long to buy my parts. i hope the price of other components doesn't rise too much
>>107354461CPUs maybe since new releases are coming next year nothing else will drop though
>>107356516did you actually NEED to boughted?want a new pc is not need a new pc
>>107353964OpenAI ordered a huge chunk of HBM memory for next year. This caused memory manufacturers to shift production towards more HBM which meant that other forms of RAM were less available for future orders. This led to panic buying which made the prices go to the moon. It also means that a bunch of types of memory will be out of stock simply because not enough of it is getting produced but this is made even worse in the PC parts market where RAM got instantly scalped.
>>107356552didn't openAI buy that shit so they could dump it in a warehouse to artificially curtail competition?
there was a time when scalpers were lunched you know
>>107356512when i said compare both across systems i meant it. you might be shocked at the ratios
>>107356427I flashed it properly, again i used it to format my pc, which was running fine until today. Regarding the partitions, i used archinstall so its properly divided i think. My main problem is that the pc isnt recognizing the usb as bootable for me to scess the pc, and when trying to boot the os i run into a blue screen with the kernel panic qr code
>>107356581>you might be shocked at the ratiosno im not shocked and this isnt a buzzfeed article
>>107356429install gentoo
>>107356596really? i was pretty flabbergasted at how much page file my piece of shit os is using when i have 20GB free ram. god damn technology sucks
>>107356567like invited for lunch?
Are there LCD monitors that have both mini-LED backlight and QD-LED colour? Any recs?
>>107356618its only to a point. 64gb and 32gb were huge for me but theres barely any difference at all between 64gb and 96gb
I'm pretty tech illiterate and have no interest in building my own, is this a decent deal for ~$850?OS: Windows 11 Pro – fullversionCPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5500, 6 kärnor / 12 trådar, upp till 4.2 GHzGPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060, 8GB GDDR6 (refurbished)RAM: 16GB DDR4 – 3200 MHzLagring: 500GB NVMe M.2 SSDModerkort: GIGABYTE A520M K V2 (nytt)PSU: 550W (nytt)Kylare: ID-Cooling (ny)Chassi: Montech X3 vit med 6 ARGB-fläktar (nytt)
>>1073551137900XTX isn't gonna be in stock forever I'm surprised you found one to begin with.
>>107355423why the fuck would you buy a fancy new monitor to be used as a secondary? get some cheap shit on the used market
>>107356401seems expensive for a 1440p
>>107356564I don't know what they're using it for but it takes away from other memory chip production capacity for next year.
>>107356627No. The colors will get better with the RGB backlight that's coming but it's still a massively flawed technology that looks like ass.
I'm building my pc for the first time and following the guide in the op. Is there any better one? The guide tells me to install the GPU before the storage drives, but the drives are slotted below the GPU. And to plug most cables before putting all the hardware in place on the motherboard. This is retarded, right?
>>107356638pretty ok given the absolute state of ram
>mini pc got fried>ram and storage still usable>went and build a pc with those>left with fried barebone>list fried mini pc on facebook>tons of messages, 5 mins after posting >"do you still got the ram?" x50Is it that bad bros? I think I'm blessed for switching to a full build, while still keeping the ram
>>107356707M.2 drives go in before the GPU, not 2.5in/3.5in ones. Motherboard connectors and CPU cooler before the GPU too.GPU is the easiest thing to mount on the mobo so it's the last thing you put there, it just slots in.
>>107356707Yea, I'd install gpu last.I'd also install case fans first before adding in the MOBO pack
>>107356707>but the drives are slotted below the GPUThen the rational mind would suggest you want to install the m.2 drive first.
>>107356543Yeah, the workload is too much for my R5 2600. I have to upgrade, it will make a night and day difference.
>>107356357Get an ATX case with pre installed fans, saved so much trouble. Bonus if dual chamber for psu
>>107356776Rear and top case fans can get in the way of inserting the mobo depending on the case, I'd mount them after.
I have spent the last week trying to successfully undervolt my gpu and im finally pretty happy.Its a 3060TI and those results are from running superposition on 2k custom since i play at 2k.I dont really give a shit about the slight increase of performance but the card went from 90º (and obv thermal throttling) to 65ºLotta accounts on the internet saying that my card should be fine at 1900mhz@.0,900mv but it was crashing with that (i guess my chip is shitty or old or the thermal paste is going to shit or all three). Ended up lowering the clock just a notch to 1890mhz and the voltage up a notch to 0.925mv and i have played about an hour from the same game that was crashing before and it rean great and the gpu kept cold.Might end up trying to tweak those numbers a bit but right now im chuffed as fuck.Thanks for reading my blog anon
>>107353216IT WAS AVAILABLE YESTERDAY, FUUUUCK YOU AMAZON FOR TAKING 3 WHOLE DAYS TO VERIFY AN ACCOUNT WHO DOES THAT ANYWAY
I bought the Acer predator Helios neo 16s off eBay (Acer refurb) for $1250. Core 9 275hx 5070ti. From my understanding this laptop doesn't have full power to the CPU and GPU, how much will this affect its performance compared to benchmarks like cpubenchmark.net. im upgrading from a 9850h+1650m mostly because I'm running out of vram, it looks like this system should stomp my old one 4-5 times over
>>107356909it was probably available with a 6 months delivery date croatian anon
>>107356921in 6 months the prices will be even worse, let me lock in my purchasealso whoops
Don't buy ram now, the price will drop tomorrow. Or maybe the next day. Just keep waiting.
>>107356926yeah sure but if in those 6 months prices got worse then they would cancel your order one way or the other
>>107356909Newegg made sure they discounted an already sold out 5060 to $99 this morning so you couldn't buy it. This is the lamest Black Friday I've experienced
im waiting
>>107356937Wait fags lost. Please respect their corpses.
>>107356937surely by the time ddr6 is out everything will be normal, right?
>>107357091I don't buy from newegg since yuro but I would stop buying from them if they pulled that sort of shit
It's doneall parts ordered I'm not buying anything else for a year
>>107356909maybe i should have fomo'ed into 390€ 2x64 6500c42 Vengeance RGBwhy? because every other kit is bad price to amount value and even worse128gb kits are 600-2000€or I could have also bought 2x32 6000c30 flare x/vengeance ram for 280€I could have bought piece by piece, I could have planned to build a PC, I could have committedI could have bought lots of cheaper parts during bfI could have been complete, I could have been at peacenow it's waiting until 6090 release and non stop coping until thenI will never begin enjoying my lifethe last train left and I'm not on itit's over
almost fomo'd into buying a generic oled monitor todayso glad i didn't, will waitfag until this time next year when gen 5 qd-oled or tandem w-oled 32" 4k is out.
>>107357176its just ram bro. you can get by with 2x16gb until 2x64gbs become affordable again and has better speed & timings than whatevers currently available
This is itI'm boughting a 5070 Ti for 750 euroGod save my wallet
>Ordered a week ago when prices were bad but not REAL fucking badThey are going to go full jew and cancel, I know it
>>107357243What did you pay?
>>107357260170 eurobucks
>>107357224cool anon, what is the 5070TI replacing?those are still about 790€ in my country and while i want one its a bit out of reach still
there are just no games worth upgrading for
>>107357269Yea there is more money to be made cancelling your order then selling it to you again.
>>107357222>you can get by with 2x16gbthose are also like 300€>until 2x64gbs become affordable again and has better speed & timings than whatevers currently availablewe will be on like ddr6 by thenimagine buying ram multiple times during the same generation>did not buy a PS5 Pro on BF>did not buy a oled tv on BFI will not be enjoying GTA 6 on release on top of no pc, it's truly over for me, I won't be ready when the time comes, my life has been a wasted effort>>107357209>generic oled monitorwhat does that even mean?>will waitfag until this time next year when gen 5 qd-oled or tandem w-oled 32" 4k is outif you are waiting for 5k screens on 27" maybe, tanded will be be worse than qd in darkness in color wise but higher brightness (that may or not wash out the image) and a better coating if the true gloss mememonitors right now are perfectly fine and good for many of them if you choose right, if you come from an lcd you won't be dissapointedif you expect insane hdr maybe buy a top end TV insteadyou are talking about small improvements here
>>107357243it's over
>>107357243>"Sorry, we're out of stock">Listing is off for 5 mins>Back with 50% price increase Calling it bro. It's been happening these past 5 threads. It gon be like market price dinner these days
Does it make sense to buy ex-display RTX 3090 EVGA KINGPIN HYBRID for 1,6k euros?
Used 4090s are back up to $2000-$1900 in Europe, is this shit even worth it anymore? It's been 4 years since the 4090 launched.
What the fuck is up with AS Shadows that the 3080 performs worse than the 5060 Ti?
>>1073573603080 10gb is 19gbps effective clock on memory. 5060ti is 28gbps effective clock.
>>107357341no? you can easily buy a 5080 + have change leftover.
>>107357304currently have an lg c2 42" tv as a monitorit's perfectly fine but i just wish it had a better refresh rate and color performance in hdrspeaking of 5k, 5k 32" would be amazing t bhfor me generic is anything that cannot go over 80% rec.2020 which in the next few years devs will finally wake up and begin making hdr that uses it properly so i want to future proof, and if not renodx hdr patches will let me do it anyway.
>>107357395I need 24GB VRAM for running AI locally
>>107357422a 7900xtx is like 600 euros on ebay uk and will smash a 3090
>>107357443>inb4 nvidia retard comes in and is like "AMD CANT DO AI I MUST PAY EXTRA" like the clueless jit he is
>>107357357I could bought the 5090 dip for 2000€ now it's up 500€2k for a gpu is crazy, 3k is bad, we are heading for early release 4k droughts mode soonit's all over>>107357416even new tandem oleds are worse than a c4 42 in hdr brightnessat that point just get a samsung 55" and mount if further awaysoon samsung might release new crazy tvs (allegedly) maybe notmaybe 240hz qdoled tvs? maybe smaller? doubt>speaking of 5k, 5k 32" would be amazing t bh27" 5k would be like end game realistically ppi wise, would not 6k 32 be more like it? idkboth will be good though
are Seagate external hard drives really less reliable than WD ones? I've heard a lot of bad press about them, but they're cheaper
>>107357443How it's gonna smash 3090 if it has 0 CUDA cores and is literal trash you can't even run ComfyUI on it (or need Linux) meaning you can't play 90% of vidyas
Finally bought some RAMAMA
>>107357455I mean sure it can run things but it wont be smashing a 3090 for inference speeds
>>107357489milord...
>>107357480Externals are fine in the cold storage way as in plug them in dump what you want on them and unplug them. I've got several 10 year old ones having no problems. Running them 24/7 probably not a good idea. Seagate runs into trouble when you buy those shitty barracuda drives and try to use them in NASes or 24/7 in a desktop. They will corrupt and fail on you. Go with Enterprise or NAS drives for that, their Ironwolfs are solid.
>>107357499>inferenceAMDjeet got no clue what that is
it's kinda interesting severely price cut 4k 32" oleds are not selling out even though cheapmaybe people already upgraded long ago or we will see even bigger price drops on them later on next year or going forward
>>107357489COУЛ
Tried ordering 5 parts from one store and put it on saturday delivery for arrival tomorrow and the fuckers tried to charge me per £13 per item, £65 for fucking delivery, fuck that shit. Absolute shitcunts this is why everyone uses amazon.
>>107357534Okay, my usage is simply backup for movies, games and anime so that should be enough. No plan on building a NAS yet, it's way over my budget
>>107357545All the fancy new OLED tech went into 27" 4K models this year, the 32" stuff is all older or retardedly expensive, no surprise for the price cuts, those boxes take up shittons of space.
>>107353776>>107353792>>107353806any higher than 8bit will make use of temporal dithering. just be aware, since it might tire your eyes.
>>107357471if the samsung s90* of 2026 is actually qd-oled in my backwards region and not secretly a w-oled i would probably get it, but we'll see.
Used 4080 for $850, thoughts? On a 3060 Ti which I paid 700 for 3 years ago.
>>107357627Just get a new 5080 for $50 more
>>107357443>7900xtxI thought they dropped support for that. To bad AMD barely makes a mid tier gpu anymore.
>>107357645RTX 5080's $1400-$1600
>>107357489Did you sell your left or your right kidney?
>>107357671Grim
>>107357576fancy tech but it's just ppi, they might even be slightly dimmer than 32" and not as much storage as the 32"pretty much the same other than ppionly stuff like ROG is crazy overpriced, on price cut though>>107357578wonder if this is what fried my eyes on qdoled, don't think so since I used it on different monitors to wildly different resultsthe fucking certain glossy coating...>>107357622in eu here only the 65" is, but you should avoid it and go straight to s95 instead it's way brighter and not nerfedthe s95f makes the s90f look broken in direct brightness comparisonthen you can also choose to get 55" or 77"
>>107357627>On a 3060 Ti which I paid 700 for 3 years ago.terrible deal u dun goofed>Used 4080 for $850also terrible just get a 5070ti for $100 cheaper or a 5080 for $100 more if you can find it at that price (impossible). 5070ti will be better in RT and DLSS . Of course if you don't care about those things the 9070XT is always there.
>>1073573605060ti has like 6.4x the L2 cache of the 3080 so maybe its just a coincidence that its L2 is able to fit all the frequently accessed data and make it have a higher effective memory bandwidth and gpu perf than the 3080 in the tested scene
>>107357360BAAAAAAAANNNNNNNDDDDDDWWWWWIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDTTTTTHHHHHHHHHHH
>>107357489inb4 its harvested from a government pc because of corrupt gov officials
i bough 32gb 6000 cl36 ram at 350 and now is almost 500
>>107357698>or a 5080 for $100 more if you can find it at that price (impossible).https://www.walmart.com/ip/15093668411?sid=9bccb51b-a97a-4005-bda3-626a69e7e40e$950 5080s are very easy to find, it's the $900 ones that are rare.
>$630 + taxWhat a cult.
>>107357622also idk about your region but during summer the s95 55" prices will dip even more compared to now, will probably hit terminal lows, perfect time to buyalteast what happened to the s95d, 55 less popular than 65 and 77
>>107357698>terrible deal u dun goofedYeah, I should have waited a few more months>5070 tiThere is some overlap between 4080's and 5070 Ti's at $730-$830, but I thought rhe 4080 was still more powerful for some reason, guess I'll check Blender performance againI have another NVIDIA GPU for PhysX I guess that I can use>>107357737I'm not in the US right now
>>107357725The $340 I paid for my 96GB of 6400C32 doesn't seem so bad now
>>107357743Noctua niggas...
$190 for a 5700X3D still worth it this winter? I nearly picked one up at Microcenter for $180 last Christmas. I'm in Europe now. Still got my 3700X which has seen some deg. Not sure whether to go for it or a 5900XT since I'm not moving to AM5 any time soon even after a year. Was thinking of pairing a 5070 Ti with it.
>>107357766love this guys 8 hour live streams where all he does is install a cpu
>>107357743I like the NH-D15 but didn't some chink brand make an air cooler recently that out-performs it while only being like $30?
>>107357743based
>>107357779He's a cool guy, just hangs out and talks to everybody.
>>107351041done most of those improvementsenabling geardown mode doesnt allow for uneven tcl so it went to 18, doing a little bit of stability test rn, the OS feels choppy but no errors so far
>>107357763>paying the historical lowest doesn't seem so bad nowu w0t m8?
>>107353540There is a slight difference. OpenAI bought all FUTURE products - memory chips that haven't been made yet. This is different to buying all EXISTING products (hammers) and you would still need to store them.
>>107357785is this for boomers with this setup
>>107357743I'm still deciding between the peerless assassin 140 and this chromax black
>>107353532Ironically, PS5 is on discount everywhere RN
>>107357796>the OS feels choppy but no errors so farstill enjoying your infinity fabric instability I see
>>107357814This is my dream setup and I would still put a beige box in it.
>>107353532>>10735781864gb kits cost as much as a ps5 digital
>>107357818Sony has like 1 year+ supply of RAM is why
>>107357799at the time it was still paying a premium for a nice kit when I don't particularly need that much ram
>>107357285It will replace the glorious GTX 1080, a warrior unto the end, 10 years of 90°C gaming, overclocked to the maximum, modded into a cyborg berserker, the unstoppable war-demon! Nightmare of Jensen Huang! Destroyer of AAA slop! Crusher of jewry! Glory! Glory! Glory!
1x S95F 55" on discount+1x PS5 Pro on discount= price as cheapest 5090 AIB
>>107357743Nack tuah without the sovl
>>107357853but you will also need at least a sound bar for the tv because default tv speakers are ass
>>107357826it's getting comfortable, finding it's space, it already stopped the choppiness
any strange issues to be aware of when using a 5060 ti 16gb or a 9060 xt 16gb on b350 boards? trying to stretch two more years out of am4 with everything that's going on
>>107357176>he thinks there will be a 6090lmaothis is it, this is the last gen of PC parts available for normal people to purchaseafter that it's only cloud shitboxes with subscription services
....do I FOMO in and upgrade my GPU/CPU right now? Do I just ride AM4 into the sunset?
building. tomorrow. building. tomorrow. building. tomorrow. building. tomorrow.
Next thread lezzgo
>>107357304Nta but I'm waiting to see how the 4k tandems turn out. I don't like gaming in pitch black so I'd like the blacks to stay black when I'm in a lit room.
>>107357972depends on budget and what you need and what kind of am4 you riding nowa 2600 is not the same as a 5800x3dhaving 2k to spend on an am5 system is not the same as having 1.2kwanting to play AAA slop at 2/4k is not the same as wanting to play silksong at 1080p
>my RAM order is still "processing"bros...
>Dust sticks out instantly on white fansew i'll stick to black
>>107358046Anon that's fucking soot, what kind of things are in your house to kick up pitch black dust in the air for them to deposit on fans?
>>107358056>he doesn't live in a furnacengmi
M27P6 19% off on amazon.de
>>107358033>depends on budgetless than a new am5 build in ureop>what you wantgood blender rendering speed/viewport performance>current am4degraded to shit 3700x/3060 ti>aaaslopnot really besides nudoom and gta v, otherwise ps2/ps3 era games and emulation, occasionally minecraft and gmod
>>107358046Dust is invisible on white versus black, wtf is that, ash?
well shit
>>107358104i would buy a 2nd hand 5600-5800x on the 2nd hand market and a brand new 5060TI/5070TI and call it a day.Once you can afford to fully jump to AM5 you can keep your new gpu fro the new systemAnd a 5800x with a new gen gpu should make a big difference in blender and games
>>107357972This is the worst time to waitfag in history, and I say this as a waitfag. Upgrade NOW.
>>107358118kinda expensive for a low tier 5070ti
>>107358046Thats black mold broClean yo room
>>107358160the lowest tiers all start at £700
>>107358118That's insane. Lowest price I can find in EU is 730€
>>107358046thats mold not dust you cave man
>>107358174yikes>>107358183670 quid is 765 euro. for that money you can get much better
I don't undestand the logic of 5070 Ti > 4080 non super
>>107357743Could be worse.
>>107357871>default tv speakers are assevery monitor speakers and tv speakers compared to my laptop has been better, depends on how much you need>>107357894kek>>107357947based fearmongerer>>107357972hold the line, don't buy into their bluffdouble down and waitmaxxdon't let them win>>107358017you already have tandememes 1440ps with truegloss out to compare, color still worse than qd, better coating, increasing brightness washes out color even more (the woled curse)tandem brainwashed people into people thinking it's a new meme, it's just a woled stillif I were you I'd fomo into a xg32ucwmg or you wait for the same one in tandememe that will be slightly betteryou don't need pitch black for qdoled that's another cope but obviously it's betterfor contrast in light I would say glossy is way more important than matte which will diffuse like crazy>>107358097>the ktc shill wanting people to buy into his mistake so they patch his broken monitor firmwareminiled cucks on suicidewatch
Where the FUCK do I screw my drive cage
I have a 5700x3d cpu with a rx5700xt gputhe gpu is the worst I have ever owned in my entire life and has constant issues that Ive lived with for yearscan I upgrade to a rx9070xt or will my shitty am4 mobo bottleneck it somehow? PLEASE I WANT TO GO BACK TO USING LINUX BUT CANT BECAUSE MY GPU KEEPS SHITTING ITSELF
>paying the chromax tax>having that many fans in the first placeyou literally don't need top or fans, don't fall for Big Airflow's propaganda
>>107358046do you smoke? is that actually mold?
>>107358311picrel >>107358151
>>107358311do it>>107357939im using a 9070 xt on an a320 which i understand to be a lower tier than the b boards and i haven't encountered anything out of the ordinary
RTX 5060 Ti apparently going on sale for $100 (70% discount) in about 2 hours (9am Pacific), according to a Logical Increments newsletter email.https://mailchi.mp/logicalincrements/rtx-5060-ti-for-100-this-will-sell-out-instantly
>>107358283>oledshill talking shit about miniled
>>107358340already emailed newegg
>>107358316you need top intake to cool down ddr5 heating upyou didn't buy the course
>>107358341>>oledshill talking shit about miniledYes
>>107358240I forgot that pounds didn't have the same rate as euro lol I'm a retard
>>107358311I'm running a 9070XT with the 5700X3D, it's great. Maybe try getting a B550/X570 mobo if yours only has PCIe 3.0, that's the most meaningful upgrade you can get short of buying into AM5 at the worst time possible.Outside of the occasional CPU-bound UEshit or capslop, the 5700X3D really deals with every game you throw at it.
>>107357780You need $80-100 to outperform the NH-D15 G2. But the G2 costs $160-180 so...
thermalright peerless assassin 140 is better than the noctua flagship and costs $50
>>107358340*scalps your nvidya*
thermalright peerless assassin 140 is cheaper than the noctua flagship and costs $50
Peerless Assassin screams "I'm on a budget", meanwhile gamer girls start ovulating at the mere sight of the NH-D15's bare metal radiator and the beautiful earthy tones of its cutting edge premium fans.
noctua and be quiet are overpriced german garbage
Noctuadolph is actually Austrian.
Any 5070 Ti or 4080 models I should avoid?
>>107358416>You chose a inferior cooling solution because you are afraid of leakage or something?!Icky.AIOs signal danger, risk taking, bad boy vibes
>>107358477all of them, get the 9070xt like the cool guys
>>107358283>xg32ucwmg>paper launched old gen monitor that's expensive as fuckI'll pass.
>>107358477I'd avoid Ventus or similarly unremarkable, reference-grade cards.Next:>>107358476>>107358476>>107358476
>>107358341miniled is cope
>>107358629OLED is just a costlier cope, and I'm not talking about burn-in.There's no perfect display.
>>107358523>paper launchedit's available to buy here>old gen monitoronly current gen 4k woled available>that's expensive as fuckon sale right now, qdoleds are almost always less expensive + asus tax + truegloss taxyour issue does not lie with the monitors but money
>>107358687oled saved large format gaming, else you would be stuck in va smearing hell forever>costlier copethis is the only argument, pay more use for less time or use a shittier display for longerkinda crazy
My old PC got damaged in a flood last week, so I have to build while RAM prices are doing whatever they are doing :)Is anyone able to give my build a once-over for any obvious mistakes? Haven't built a PC is like 10 years. It would be appreciated. Ideally I'd like to shave a few hundred off the price here, budget is $1500-2000 Canadian. Only real goal is to play games for the next 10 years. I like to run at 240Hz but don't care about 4k if that makes a difference.Is my CPU too much power compared to my GPU?https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Jj77fd
>>107358307I figured it out I didn't screw it, it's okay to have moving parts!!!
>>1073587651. Don't waste money on a Noctua cooler. Get a fat cooler (Deepcool AK500) or dual-tower (Thermalright Royal Knight 120). 2. Don't buy ASRock motherboards. They've been known to kill Zen 5 CPUs. Spend your saving from above on a Gigabyte/MSI board instead.3. Your 7800X3D will last you another 2-3 GPU upgrades.
>>107358765>>107359167Oh, and if you want to save a bit of money, look for 7600X3D or 7500X3D. Same 3D V-cache benefit of your original choice, 2 fewer cores.
>>107359167Thank you kinda anon. PCPartPicker is warning me with any mobo that I should BIOS update to get support for my CPU. Do you know if there are budget motherboards that do not require a BIOS update? Otherwise it's looking like the MSI PRO B650M-P will be my choice. Seems like a pretty ordinary mobo and it's not asrock so no housefires hopefully.
>>107359364kind anon** lmfao
>>107359364Almost all B650 motherboards (including that MSI PRO B650M-P) have a feature called "Flash BIOS" where you can update BIOS even without a CPU installed.All you need is a spare USB key formatted in FAT32 (recommended under 8GB)
>>107357489ocтaви мaлкo и нa дpyгитe...
