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>>107373474What's the wide display?
>>107373478I mounted my PA140 facing the wrong direction, thank god it's completely simmetrical so it doesn't matter.
holy shit cases with the drive not mounted in the same place all the damn psu cables go I never knew this would be so goated
>>107373474Why is it a republic?
why buy air coolers anymore when liquid coolers are the same price or cheaper for better performance?
>>107373588liquid coolers die and water leaks and you lose the compooter
>>107373588Air coolers never leak fluids all over your parts. That said, I still liquid cool.
>>107373568Monarchy of Gamers doesn't sound right.
>>107372293Anyone?
it's time to confess: I never use DDU and I think it's pure nerd superstition
>>107373628what music software runs on linux?
Why cant I turn on ray tracing in minecraft? My 6600xt supports it
>>107373628the build is good, what are you asking for?
Urgent and mission critical pcbg display updateif you are planning to buy a flagship TV this year DON'T unless you wanna be cucked out since next years leap is monumental and you WILL see 240hz QDOLEDs which will put them on par with pure gaming monitors except superior in all regardsbuy into a movable floor stand now, wall mounts, do whatever you need to do, because you WILL be wanting to use a 55-77" next year if you wanna be at the bleeding edge tippity top of pure gaming enjoyment
>>107373629if windows was a sensible and well-crafted operating system i would agreebut is it? i think it's fine to run DDU if you regularly swap GPUs and don't want to do a full reinstall when you upgrade, even if it is really just snake oil
Reminder that everyone saying poorfaggot is literally a tech illiterate dumbass and that modern budget hardware mogs a 1080. The problem has and always will be software devs
>>107373628Looks good, I had to double check if the 903 includes a drive bay and it does.>>107373644Bedrock? You need a ray tracing texture pack like Vanilla RTX. Microsoft kind of gave up on ray tracing in favor of vibrant visuals.
>>107373499Which wide display
>>107373592>>107373596Show 5 examples of this happening in the last 5 years. Actually just show 2. Even one would be alright. Protip, you can't.
>>107373663No games run at 240hz 4k so this is moot.
>>107373676actually the problem is retards giving modern devs money for their slop.You should be playing games that are actually optimized well like minecraft
>>107373683isnt vibrant visuals just shaders?
>>107373663>Still using a TV as a monitor like you were in the last threadlol
is it true that win11 ltsc doesn't have recall spyware?
>>107373653I don't have a lot of experience with this, so I wanted to make sure I didn't mess something up before ordering the parts, like compatibility problems or something.
>>107373733>>107373706>>107373721You have been warned!
>>107373697So, you're telling me to use a liquid cooler which I'm already doing? Good to know.
>>107373721>fake framesI rest my case. You don't need more than 120hz and you never will.
>>107373663What sort of blind retard sits in front of a 55"-77" TV as a PC monitor? Are you Mr. Magoo? Let me guess- programming socks will be required for complete enjoyment?
>>107373744I am too even though I am terrified of it leaking. I feel for the new thing grift. If it explodes my computer I'm coming for moots children.
Hello /g/, I have a problem. I plugged another USB cable to the back of my PC, and the Ethernet port stopped working. The LED no longer turns on, the device manager says it's working fine. But I've tried a couple cables and nothing. I've also disabled, re-enabled, uninstalled and reinstalled the drivers.The motherboard is a MSI B850 Tomahawk Max. What should I try next?
>>107373731Kind of, yeah. It's more accessible compared to ray tracing so it's a bigger focus.
i will now undervolt my 9800x3dtime to restart at least 100 times
>>107373746doubling frames will give you better motion clarity and smoother motion>>107373770correct distance and height everything can be doneno to your questions btw
>>107373783How much friggin power were you trying to pull out of that USB port?
>>107373783Fuck I have the same motherboard. Which usb port did you use?
>>107373663I'll wait to upgrade to the Odyssey G9 57" 4k QDOLED 240hz, thanks.
>>107373806I plugged in my monitor for a firmware update.>>107373811USB 5G
>>107373789you can change the offset with ryzen master or PBO2 tunermuch easier than changing it in the BIOS while testing
>>107373789I use -15 all cores and +200 mhz clock, it's nice.
>>107373827>plugging in your monitor to a usb portwat?
is 1440p @ +100hz becoming the standard a wise decision? because you need the highest-end GPU to run modern games at such frame rates at that resolution.so is it seems that economically and practically speaking a 24" 1080p 144hz monitor is a sounder choiceyou keep the same proven resolution for the past 20 years but with much higher frame rates
>>107373832How do I do this? Not the other anon.
>>107373847It's required for Gigabyte OLED
>>107373848>because you need the highest-end GPU to run modern games at such frame rates at that resolutionIs this bait? A 1080ti can do that.
>>107373783did you reboot? I don't believe you fried the usb controllermaybe reset cmos
>>107373848if anything 4k-5k-6k displays should be standard and the minimum 27"-32" reses and you could throw in double hz modes for the sweaty comp alternate modes that 1/4ths resolution and doubles hzwe have had shit monitors for so long and low res crap
>>107373790Splitting the difference and assuming a 65" television, the same field of view on a 27" monitor would be over 3 feet as the optimal distance for the TV (~7 feet). Meaning a 27" monitor at a normal viewing distance (~2 feet or less) would give a larger field of view. I don't know what you're hoping to accomplish here, by promoting this. Are you being paid?
>>107373880I restarted the PC a few times yes.How do I reset CMOS?
>>107373879I believe you are thinking of different games than he is.
>>107373827My feeling is you burned a circuit on the motherboard from pulling too much power. What I would try is pulling the CMOS battery for a full reset and seeing if that fixes the problem.
>>107373848Some of the latest AAA slop wont run at 100+ fps on 1440p either even if you have a 5090. Speaking of exclusively PC gaming on a desk I think 24" 1080p is more than fine. 27" 1440p if you really need a bit more.
>>107373913turn off the pc, remove the battery, wait 1 minute, put it back in and start it
>>107373896the tv will be more immersive and also have better pq, that is the thing>I don't know what you're hoping to accomplish here, by promoting this. Are you being paid?ah yes the telling people to not consoom current goods and getting paid for itwhat did you mean by this>I don't know what you're hoping to accomplish heretelling TVmaxxers to not get cucked by current years TVsnext year it's over for monitorlets
>>10737392724" 1080p is poverty tier
>>107373913>How do I reset CMOS?Brother I'm retarded but come on. Did you even look at your pc when you built it? There is a button just a few inches away from that usb you supposedly fried.
>>107373942>Not addressing the elephant in the room by ignoring that a 27" monitor will give a larger field of view than a bigscreen TV when said monitor is on your desk. Keep tilting those windmills, Don.
>>107373663I sit 50cm away from the screen wtf am I going to do with a 55 inch
>>107373963>he doesn't know you can just sit at any distance and create your own personal viewing angle
>>107373943Not everyone wants or has space for big monitors. 24 inches is a neglected area.
>>107373920>>107373939>>107373946Unplugging the power and clicking the reset CMOS button literally fixed it. Thank you /g/, hardware is definitely not my thing.
>>107373999(Checked)Nigga, unless you live in Hong Kong or Great Britain would you need to worry about 3 inches of extra space
>>10737399527" dedicated PC monitor will always beat a television no matter where it's mounted. Denser pixels and the fact that monitors always get the best technology first. Some people actually need a monitor for productivity despite what the gaymers think.
>MONITOR>1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7>1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED)>4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)anywhere buying guide I can look for more reputable options? ktc is not viable to purchase where I livebetween 1080p and 1440p, probably leaning towards a higher end-ish 1080p, I believe it should be better than a budget 1440p
>>107374014u're welcome
>>107373848Idk man I'm sticking to 1080p 60fps. I've never felt that I need my Vidya to be more detailed or "smoother" than this
>>107374014Happy we could help
>>107374016Look my house is spacious enough but it’s cluttered with bullshit (especially after my SiLs moved in) and I have to share a bedroom so I’m basically in the corner of a storage room. Some people also just prefer smaller multiple monitors.
>>107374038try oc to 75hz
>>107374021>Denser pixels and the fact that monitors always get the best technology firstNuclear tier poorfag cope.
>>107374038You can play at 60fps while enjoying the benefits of 120hz doe
>>107374016nta but my room is literally 2.5x4 meter commiepod and a 42" TV saved me a lot of desk space compared to regular monitors.
>>107374060explain how
>>107374053>Nuclear tier poorfag cope.Uh huh... go on...
>>107373770>>107373733I use a 42" C4 as a monitor, have for a year. Works perfectly, don't see the issue here.
>>107374021based ppi friend
>>107374075Where is the 27 inch monitor in that picture?
>for gamingbiggest screen always, 32", 4k, 1440p, 1080p>for content consoomingthen you can care about ppisimple as
>>107373864For me it's through Precision Boost Overdrive settings in the Gigabyte BIOS, but there might be different names for other manufacturers.
>>107374075>2 screens>3 computershuh
>>107374087>yeah 42" is bordering on the edge standing on a desk I already know this>but we are talking 55"+ here, at that point, lower than desk mounting becomes mandatory kindaWhy are we pretending that you need to be eyelevel with an oled screen?
>>107374106For gaming you want the whole screen in your fov and 32" is too big for 60 - 80 cm viewing distance, even worse if you're closer
>>107374024I'd rather have a shitty 1440p monitor over a good 1080p one, mostly because I read a lot on my PC and the difference between the two is abyssal
>>107374137do you have to squint when playing games?
>>107374075BattleStation4.jpg is the one where you're shown with your programming socks?
>>107374101The 5K2K monitor on the left is the equivalent of 2-27" monitors side by side. Yes, I use it for work. I need large before/after on photos. But you're the expert. Please show me next year's 5K2K televisions. Who's going to make them?The 16:9 one on the right IS for watching across the room when I don't feel like firing up a TV. >>107374118The monitor on the left has built in KVM switching, meaning both PCs only have a power cable, a display cable, and a USB that connects to the monitor. Keyboard, mouse, display, card reader, external drive, etc are all shared between the 2 PCs. I hit Alt+2 and it switches which PC is displayed and connected to peripherals.
>>107374147well, i'm still considering eitheri just need to find the options and which one has a better sale
>>107374071Smoother motion clarity, vrr support, reduced frame drops and input lag. They are dirt cheap anyways.
>>107374161No, that'll be the one where Linus appears at my door to cable manage that mess behind the desk.
>>107374181Look up the "Rtings" website they review hundreds of monitors and list all the pros and cons
>>107374178So you admit that 27 inches isn't enough, I rest my case. Also we were never talking about your niche photo editing. The vast majority of users only play games or do other light work all of which are easily and better done on a large tv. Happy for you but you are not the majority of users and thus your needs are not the norm that should be pushed on everyone else.
>>107373963a smaller screen does not create the same immersion a larger screen creates just because it's closeralso, you are ignoring the elephant in the room being the TVs will outperform the monitors in pq by alot>>107373990mount further away and realistically below desk level at this point>>10737399924inches is DOA 26.5" is the new minimumyou can also use simulation modes which recreates 24" competitive copesdon't tell me you don't have room for 2.5" more>>107374021>will always beat a television no matter where it's mounted>monitors always get the best technology firstoled monitors are like a decade behind oled tvs>>107374075you really need to upgrade from that VA tho>>107374106size for casualmaxxingcompetitive either get a smaller faster screen up close or get even further away from said tv>>107374133neck strain and moving your necktv too high type shitI would also mount it loweryou put larger tv on a desk it's becoming too big verticallyonly solution is lower mounting>>107374137>32" is too big for 60 - 80 cm viewing distanceperfectly fine but for competitivefaggin smaller might be better>For gaming you want the whole screen in your fovyes but competitivefaggin and casualfaggin are kinda different idk
>"""upgrade""" to VA Miniled panel>blacks are indistinguishable from my cheapo IPS monitor
>>107374210So, you admit that a single 27" is perfect for most users who game or do other light work, since that 27" would appear bigger than a 55" or larger TV at a proper viewing distance. I'm glad we can agree on something.
>>107374223That's just not possible, I saw miniled in a best buy with the worst lighting possible and I could immediately tell a big difference.
>>107374206thanks, i'm gonna check it out
>>107374236>since that 27" would appear bigger than a 55" or larger TV at a proper viewing distanceThis has never been true and never will be true. If you ever get the chance to use a big tv you will immediately experience the difference. The detail and wow factor of watching things on a big screen tv is unparalleled. I can watch old things I've seen a hundred times before and it's like I'm watching it again for the first time. Noticing details that would be invisible on a small desktop monitor.
>>107374215>immersionYou are ignoring that the 100" TV in your picture would require constant head movement to view the entire picture would be at least 8 feet to equal a 27" monitor that's on your desk like a civilized human. >oled monitors Enjoy your burn in. You can deny it all you want, but we all know it's an inevitability. >you really need to upgrade from that VA thoI do not own a VA panel. Thanks, though.
>>107374215Does the tv come with that girl? If I take off the trench coat will it reveal 3 smaller girls standing on top of each other?
>>107370041>Your card is visibly tilted upwards, you are applying way too much force in the opposite direction. The ideal is to have it perfectly level.Thank you anon who pointed out I was over-torquing my 6800 - turns out my whole apartment is slightly tilted.I sure hope this makes it last.
>>107374265thats some serious cope there fren85"+ tvs are super affordable now. sounds like the cope when apple people were in denial that other peoples devices were just as good if not betteris all this because you need external validation for something?
region Europe/GERI am aiming for 1440p gaming, not only for current titles but near-medium future ones. I chose the graphics card because I was hoping that it might be currently in the grey area between 1440p and 4k, which I hope means that it will last for a little bit for 1440p purposes. Not really aiming for 4k gaming for the moment, but possibly for VR gaming and I guess for that, a powerful GPU is necessary as well. anyway, the setup is:CPU: AMD ryzen 7, 9800 X3DGPU: AMD RX 9070 XTMOBO: ASUS ROG STRIX X870E-E RAM: 2x16GB CL30, DDR5-6000Cooler: ID-Cooling FROZN A620 PRO SE ARGBPSU: Seasonic Core GX-850 ATX 3remaining questions: I haven't quite chosen a SSD yet, because initially I read that this mobo is being recommended for having three PCI 5 connections for SSD (and CPU/GPU apparently?), but now I read that these pci 5 SSDs are not necessary for gaming purposes. Is that motherboard an overkill then and I could use a cheaper one without bottlenecking my CPU/GPU or SSDs?Do these components harmonize or is there a bottleneck/component that is way too good for the rest? I think the CPU might be "too strong", but the price difference to the 7800 X3D was only 80€ so I thought I could take the faster one
>>107374290>You are ignoring that the 100" TV in your picture would require constant head movement to view the entire picture would be at least 8 feet to equal a 27" monitor that's on your desk like a civilized human.you are ignoring my original point was that the TVs will simply be better in pq and what will come out next year, I have no vested interest in what people use or want to usethis is strictly for my TVmaxxers>Enjoy your burn in. You can deny it all you want, but we all know it's an inevitability.yes>I do not own a VA panel. Thanks, though.what is that gigabyte? 43" IPS?
>>107374313fuck that was a terrible photo, here's a better one
>>107374319>overkillyes>harmonizeyes
>>107374318Are you confused? Drunk? High? You aren't even making sense. I would bet you don't even know what position you are defending anymore.
>>107374223VA is a downgrade from IPS regardless of miniled
>>107373848Something becoming a standard is not a decision, it's the result of many individual decisions and most of these happen to consider 1440p 27" displays to be the most acceptable compromise between requirements, wishful thinking and available funds. You may feel the need to save more money and are probably trying to rationalize it.
>>107374319Your setup is near optimal for what you're saying. I might consider a 360mm AIO considering the CPU will run on the warmer side. I have a 9800x3d overclocked 200mhz and with an AIO it never really pops over 70c under heavy loads. On air, that would be a challenge.
>>107374318don't buy va
>>107374340Bro your level measurer is going the wrong direction. You need to point it towards the motherboard. It would show it being in the middle no matter how much the gpu bends in either direction the way you have it.
>>10737421524 INCHES IS GOOD ENOUGH YOU CANT GET ANYTHING SMALLER ANYMORE STOP FUCKING TRYING TO MAKE EVERYTHING BOGGER AND BIGGER
>buy a rare old cases off some company>dumbass courier dented it during shipping>broke off one of the plastic legs, sits uneven on the rear left leg>several rivets missing or broken off>panels hard to get off due to warping along cornees and edgesCan we fix it if I derivet the whole case?
>>107373848It makes absolutely zero sense to buy 1080p when if you need more fps you can just set your games to 1080p on your 1440p monitor and add some sharpening filter. 1440p is immensely better than 1080p when reading text and high refresh rates are immensely better than 60Hz when browsing. You don't game 24/7 on your PC, you do many other things.
27 inches? Why does anyone need 24 inches? If you just sit with your face on the screen 16 inches is enough. I'll sell you this 14 inch screen for 500 dollars, it has super primox technology inside you can't do better friend.
>>107374375BIGGER*
>>107374382Send it back and get them to send you a new one since they broke it?
>>107374334>what is that gigabyte? 43" IPS?oh shi... you're right. It is VA, I forgot. I really only use that for streaming TV viewing when I want to watch something while working. It's nice and sharp and I have it calibrated to a decent state. 144hz but it's not a great monitor. It's good.
>>107374372Thanks for the tip. I just checked it with it pointing towards the MB and got the same result, so I think it's good.I slapped the bubble level on the top of my case and it showed the same result as a sanity check.
>>107374191What's a good 1440p IPS monitor with all that stuff and a reasonable price?
>doesn't even know what tech he is using>claims to be an expert and wants to force you to believe his own twisted vision on what is correct
>>107374446I am mildly retarded. I will not deny that.
>>107374375I didn't, the manufacturers already decided 27" is the bare minimum screen size for decent screens>>107374388>You don't game 24/7 on your PC, you do many other things.sanest anon in pcbg>>107374413>oh shi... you're right. It is VA, I forgot.gotem
>>107374401That's not an option
>>107374453It's ok fren we've all been there. Enjoy your 27 inch and I'll enjoy my fuqhuge tv and we can all be happy together.
>>107374464Anything is an option if your gun is big enough or you have lots of smaller guns.
>>107374472It's a deal!
>>107374441You sure you want 1440p instead of sticking to 1080p? https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/1440p-gaming-monitors
>>107374480The case damage is not significant enough to where a salvage doesn't seem to be worth it considering the modest price I paid
>>107374341the specs are unnecessarily good for 1440p gaming? I should mention I am aiming for around 144 fps because of my monitor and I wanted to try out those magical high fps gaming experiences. It's great if I can do that on max settings, but high is cool, too
I need a 3 pin fan controller or hub of some kind, anything like that which I can put in my front 5.25" bay?
>>107374515for 1440p 144 triple A they are good enough, for less than that they are overkill, the motherboard is overkill in general for 8 cores cpu
>>107374486Tell me more about the lava lamp, I'm intrigued
>>107374515Diminishing returns kicks in pretty heavily around 100 fps
>>107374388i thought the higher refresh rates are have use in only in gayming
>>107374528Not much to say- I remember my grandparents having one when I was like 3 or 4 years old and was fascinated by it. I saw one on Amazon for like $20 so I grabbed it. Takes at least 15-20 minutes to warm up and start flowing, and it all runs off an incandescent bulb underneath so it gets pretty warm.
What is Noctua's fucking problem?
>>107374566The same problem as Bose, Apple, and Goodyear. Trading on a name, selling mediocre products for the cost, making bank.
>>107374388But doesn’t 1080p stuff scale purely to 1440p?
im so close on pulling the trigger on that 27 inch acer oled for $400. im just worried about burn in
>>107374582Poorly * fuck swype
>>107374564I kind of want to buy one now, looks cool
>>107372538 #https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09NPJ554B
>>107373770>Mr. Magooyour age is showingt. old fart
>>107374623I think they're neat.
>>107374579What I'm curious about is how their 200mm fans justify 3x the cost over Thermaltake's pure 20 series.
>>107374672Get off my lawn.
>>107374699From a performance standpoint, there is no justification. It's not like that have exclusive technology.
>>107374388It's gonna be blown out in a 27 inch screenAlso with 24 inch 1080p you can get a second monitor for disc or whatever
>>107373999I cheered when I conquered a 1080p monitor at work, the old one was 1600x900, fortunately it has the same PPI of the secondary 1280x1024 Lenovo monitor I use in portrait mode.I use a similar setup at home, 1920x1080 and portrait 1600x1200 (20"). I didn't switch yet because webpages in a monitor in portrait mode are GOAT
>>107374715No wait I got it, Noctua seems to be the only one making PWM 200mm fans
When did they started adding plastic wedge on the cmos clip/tab? shit got me confused for a solid 30 mins
>>107374053I think 43" in a 16:9 aspect ratio is the maximum size somewhat comfortable, at that size 4K has the same pixel density of a 21.5" 1920x1080 monitor. I can get a smaller 4K monitor and have much better diacritics (for example, naïve) on my screen. I wish 43" 8K monitors were affordable.
>>107374764>I wish 43" 8K monitors were affordable.Oddly, so do I. Just for the novelty of it. But, I suspect a really good 4K monitor wouldn't really be any worse.
>>107374742control case fans from the bios, you don't need pwm
just found out you can run a gpu on sbc/itx motherboard that dont have pcie slots using this https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805977795069.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdaptm.2 to pcie slot dock with dc power supply
>>107375036is 65 usd worth it though? probably notand i dont think you can run gpus that dont have power connectors (under 75w gpus)
>>107374014The way you broke your computer is quite advanced. Don't sell yourself short.
>>107373848If you have managed to wait out the 1440p bullshit, just switch to 4K. The time is now.
>>107374593>acer oledShit list status? Not sure. worst thing about oleds is the shitty pixel mandatory (some) manufacturers put in, literally brutal.>im just worried about burn ineither you are willing to pay the cost for peak performance or not>>107374689I had one aeons agothat reminds me I will and need to rgbmaxx my room later
>>107375145>worst thing about oleds is the shitty pixel mandatory (some) manufacturers put in, literally brutal.Take the TV pill they don't do that.
How reckless is it to buy OLOy RAM (ddr4)? For 32GB I save like 40$ compared to the next best option, but from a brief research it seems like a mystery meat brand that has a not-insignificant chance of being relabeled slower ram, single channel, or straight up not working. Is it true they use material binned by the more premium brands?
>>107375182buy once cry once
I want to build a PC with these components:>Anti-gaming PC case>Useless monitor for gaming>No RGB lighting>Anti-gaming motherboard>Useless processor for gaming>Anti-gamer RAM>Useless GPU for gaming>Completely useless keyboard for gaming>Anti-gaming mouse
>>107375211Just buy a mini PC. It's like a laptop with no keyboard or screen.
https://versus.com/en/gigabyte-x870-aorus-elite-wifi7-vs-msi-mag-x870e-tomahawk-wifiThese are the same price for me, which one should I get for a 9800x3d? AFAIK the MSI runs cooler and doesn't have GPU lane sharing issues like the Gigabyte. How is MSI customer service?
>>107375211Consider a raspberry pi, connected to an ancient CRT and using one of these bluetooth TV touchpad-keyboard handhelds for input
>>107375211That's easy.Get a case with very bad airflow and keep it closed, without case fans, to make temperatures too high when gaming. Ensure a constant buildup of dust by placing it near a bed.Cheapest used 720p monitor you can findFor the internal components, just ask local schools if they have components they want to get rid of. Most of the time they do, and it's all late 2000s slow trash.As for the keyboard and mouse, get the cheapest ones in your local chinese everything store.
after doing the ram overclocking that I did and isntalling the new GPU sometimes when I wake up the monitor from inactivity the mouse pointer hangs in the desktop and then I move the mouse and another mouse pointer shows up registering the movement but the old one stays for a little whileany idea what this is?
>>107374593>burn inAll displays will die eventually, or you will simply wish to upgrade. All panel technologies have drawbacks.But let's consider an IPS panel: from the second you turn your monitor on, the backlight is bleeding and your contrast is barely 1000:1. In comparison, an OLED is pristine, and the burn only creeps in around year 4-5. How big of a deal is this to you?
>>107375227Which mini PC model would be the most anti-pc gaming?
>>107375277>the backlight is bleedingIt's hard to believe but there are people who don't watch a black screen all day.
>>107375291It's hard to believe but there are people who don't watch a white screen all day.
Since the other anon mentioned using the GPU to upscale streaming services, I've been playing with lots of options and found some streaming services support 21:9. Holy shit. This is a game changer.
>>107375175I know that's why I shilled the TV Pill as an optionbut you also have monitors which don't have FORCED mandatory pixel refreshesthat behavior is retarded>>107375182>oloybrings me back to techdeals days RIPimagine buying ddr4 now holy heck>>107375211mac>>107375260corrupted your shitgl
>>107375368isnt that normal movie aspect ratioare you telling me you can only stream 16.9 or some garbage?im totally unaware
Do you guys actually do anything besides generate ai porn and play video games
>>107375371Which Apple MAC model would be the most anti-pc gaming?And why is Mac ideal for someone who hates Gabe Newell and hates Steam?
>>107375391Play Harry Potter and Hermione's Milf
>>107375397>who hates Gabe Newell and hates Steam?t. Tim Sweeney
>>107375397Tim Sweeney is that you?
>>107375412>>107375426For me, the only platforms for gaming are the smartphone and the tablet.By the way, the Epic Store (and GOG too) can go eat shit
Off topic I know but I don't see a guts thread up and I'm not sure if they are even a thing anymore. Found this water cooling build I did back in 2014, just wanted to post it. If I ever got my hands on another Air540 I would rebuild it, I regret taking it apart.
>>107375391posting on 4chan, tinkering with hardware and software, and latex pdfs
>>107375211What you are looking for is called a Mac.
>>107375232>How is MSI customer service?Excellent for me personally, my motherboard had a fucked up screw and I was able to call them and talk to a real person in seconds and they sent me a replacement for free no questions asked.
What's the point of a 240hz monitor if I don't play online competitive shooter slop? What refresh rate is good for everything else?I'm thinking about a 4k OLED monitor btw.
>>107375470Anything over 144Hz is competitive shooter slop, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
>>107375454Tell me all the reasons why a Mac would be for me, someone who hates PC gaming (including emulation), hates Valve, hates the Steam Machine and the Steam Deck, and hates Gabe Newell?
>>107375447But what’s the point
>>107375478
>>107375391I watch anime on plex. Built quite the library, I've maxed out 3 hard drives and just had to get a 4th. One of these days I need to figure out how to build a NAS.
>>107375211>Useless monitor for gaming60Hz 4k 27" OLED>Anti-gaming mouseFinger trackball or a touchpad
>>107375481Because you like to massage your prostate with bad dragon dildos.
>>107375488Not him but what refresh rate do you recommend and why?
>>107373848VRR is a godsend for poor and mid tier gaming and still nice to have in high end gaming since modern games are so poorly optimized
>>107375509160hz at 4k240hz is noticeable but it's really not that big of a difference but the benefit of 240hz is you can use 4x fg and have it not feel like shit
>>107375470120hz for your second question. 20, 24, 30, 40, 60
>>107375509Anything past 120hz hits diminishing returns hard and if you are playing at 4k you need a bleeding edge system to maintain even that. Sure technically 240 looks better but your brain quickly gets used to whatever it experiences and in a week you won't know what you are missing out on.
>>107375513>VRR flickers in your pathThat shit is horribly distracting.
>>107375387I think movies are actually a bit wider. But, 21:9 is close to cinematic. I never really thought about streaming on an ultrawide monitor at real full-screen before. Usually it's on my TV which is 16:9, of course. Seems Netflix, on Edge, will detect a 21:9 display and use it when you go fullscreen without stretching or any black bars.
>>107375531this is where frame gen is useful. vrr flicker happens because of gamma shifting at specific hz on VA/OLED monitors. with fg you can pretty much lock fps and prevent the variations in fps from happening
>>107375391see: >>107374178
>>107375444eBay
>>107373770nta but it's good if you have a racing sim or use a handheld controller for gayming.
take the reflex/antilag2 pill
>>107375470>What's the point of a 240hz monitor if I don't play online competitive shooter slop?reduced input lag, better motion clarity>What refresh rate is good for everything else?more = better>I'm thinking about a 4k OLED monitor btw.for casualfagging next years top ends tvs will hz-match 4k monitors and completely annihilate them in hdr/brightness/color - it will all be over next year>>107375536>I think movies are actually a bit wider. But, 21:9 is close to cinematic.yes but it's near identicaldon't tell me streaming sites force 16.9 or some shitviewing most cinema movies on a ultrawide would and should fill it
the 1000hz 4k oleds will be insane
>>107375391I don't do either of those, I use my 2500€ gaming PC to watch Youtube and read books.
>>107375509Anything below 240Hz is poverty tier
>>107375584>don't tell me streaming sites force 16.9 or some shit>viewing most cinema movies on a ultrawide would and should fill itYou'd think so. It all started when I was watching something on Paramount and had black bars on the left and the right. And the top... and the bottom. Ridiculous. An extension zoomed it to properly fill the screen. I guess Netflix can do it correctly on it's own. Required Edge, but whatevs.
>>107375391i do things in blender and 3ds maxi use ai to upscale textures for various projects
>>107375601Why spend so much? Besides the monitor of course
>>107375622Because I don't spend money for anything and I feel bad about hoarding it like a retarded dragon jew
>>107375629Why not try a video game, you never know they could be fun.
>gooner game check>hdr on check>240hz check>4x fg checkit's time to enjoy the rest of this saturday fellas
>>107375613isn't desktop streaming broken anyway and serve low res low quality shit? as in you need to use tv apps to get better streaming?torrenting wins againvery sloppy
>>107375629Fair
>>107374526Is there a motherboard you would suggest instead? as a reminder:CPU was ryzen 9800 X3D, gpu was 9070 XT
>>107375632I'm not good enough. I used to play games up until 5 years ago but I sucked at all of them.
>>107374223miniled is a scam technology to get retards to spend their money
>>107375645Depends upon the browser. Like I said, I normally use my TV. But Netflix supports full-screen, full resolution at 21:9. On Edge only. Meh. I can make exceptions
>>107375660mini led is good for people who want the best of both worlds + brightnessit's not meant to be as good as oled, but you can do hdr shit without having things burn in
>>107375643the biggest gooners also use the biggest screens77" is where gooning begins
>>107375671god i love hailey..and the buffs made her the best again
>>107374391I was just fine playing nes on my 13 inch crt
>>107375659You don't have to play competitive games. I stopped playing fps years ago. There are tons of games that can be enjoyable without making you feel like you have to break your fingers.
>>107374319You're fine you're worrying about pointless shit. If there's something to consider it's 64GB of ram but only if you're a multitasker. 32 is quite fine if you're a normal user.
>>107374223lying, blind, or retarded and have dimming turned off
>>107375682is this the same game as you are playingI have no idea what this game even is to this day
>>107375723it is, it's korean warframe https://store.steampowered.com/app/2074920/The_First_Descendant/
>>107375481None of that runs on a mac.
>>107375740What if it can run on a Mac?
>>107375391I mostly shitpost in 4chan. Still spent 5k on a new PC.
>>107375531That's a monitor issue.
black friday ram extravaganza!!!!!~~
>>107375592aren't we running into cable bottlenecks already?
>>107375670Can you recommend a few 1440p mini led monitors?
>>107375794nothin a little dsc compression can't fix>>107375798https://www.amazon.com/KTC-Monitor-HDMI2-0-Adjustable-M27T6/dp/B0F7Q22V3W
>>107375670I wouldn't call horrible bloom "hdr"
I heard MSI are very strict on the BIOS but one of these power profiles says it's ready to send 4090W straight to the CPU just say the word lol. I know it won't really but I'd love to see the board and CPUs that'll actually do it. Maybe Nova Lake we'll see it kek
>>107375391I have to use solidworks and do boring annoying shit in simulation software I don't fully understand. I also have to use nvidia omniverse shit they write zero documentation for.
>>107375809HDR monitor owners would
>>107375659What games did you use to play?
>>107375845lol no it looks disgusting
>>107375806>VABro, come on
>>107375866I prefer va, because of the text-vanish flaw. This reduces flicker, which leads to lower entrainment, useful for people who operate at the highest levels of sacral energy, such as myself.
>>107375866if there was a 1440p version of the m27p6 that was ips i would have linked that instead, but there isn't one
>>107375882I'm going to molest your chakras and there is nothing you can do to stop me.
>>107375896So there are no 1440p IPS mini led monitors that are good?
>>107375698I’m sure you could do controller only lobbies on pc in most games now
which one is mini ledwhich one is oled
>>107375882
>>107375935Trick question it's neither.
>>107375658any motherboard with 14+2+1 vrm A is enough
>>107375935Upper screen is miniled as evidenced by the yellow red tint
Is the 8GB variant of the RX 9060 XT ever worth purchasing? It's the same price as a used 6800 XT, similar performance, but half the TDP which is crucial for fitting it in a 5 year old PC as a drop-in upgrade without changing PSU. The 6800 XT has a 300W TDP which is ridiculous for that level of performance.The 16GB variant of the 9060 XT is +100-150 euro which puts it in a completely different price category, competing with the 5060 Ti which has a much better feature set, and the used RTX 4070 which is much more powerful and still only 200W.Why is there no good 300 euro GPU that can just play anything at 1080p60 with all the bells and whistles like ray tracing cranked up, and not require a PSU that costs as much as the card?
>>107375956it's a decent card but has no longevity in it with so little vram
>>107375941For me I settle for nothing less than verted pork rectums.
>>107375982Boneless or boned?
>>107375935>IPS>TN
>>107375866Buying an IPS mini LED is retarded. There's a reason why most are VA.
thank fuck for cases where you can take the top off cases have improved so much it's crazy
>>107375986Half and half, I like a little surprise in my life.
>>107376001Pill me on this feature
man, monitorautism really is a disease, there is no perfect monitor, at one point you have to be happy with what you get
>>107376033Don't do this in public unless you want to get slapped with a misdemeanor fine.
>>107375979What else is there at that price point with 10+ GB VRAM and sub-200W TDP? Used 4060 Ti 16GB costs more than a used 4070, and the 4070 at 200W might be too much. I don't know what the PSU is, just that any potential GPU would be replacing a 1660, so I want to keep it within that 100-150W TDP range to be safe.
>>107376039People overcomplicate it. If you can afford to replace your screen in 3-5 years get the biggest size oled your desk can fit. If you can't get the biggest size miniled your desk can fit. The rest barely matters and the size of the screen will usually dictate the other options for you.
it's obvious which is which based on the image in the OP, but in regular usage you would never know that the left is mini led and the right is oled
>>107376051 (me)12GB 3060 is obvious, but I want something future proofed with performance not just VRAM so my brother can play GTA 6 when it comes out on PC. Also his other computer (laptop) has a 4060 mobile, so anything less powerful than that (e.g. 2060 12GB) is also out.
>>107376064i highly recommend the full screen version of blade runner 2049 btw (it's out there on the internet somewhere)
>>107376064miniled: perfect contrastoled: bright mess like an instagram filterok, I get it
i really hope i don't get the monitorautism itch my 8 year old ones are fineI do not need a fancy new monitorI do not need a fancy new monitorI do not need a fancy new monitor
>>107376051If you buy a 6800 and hit with a -15% power limit it should stay below 200wI picked one up for $280 and it stays under 200w with an undervolt.
>>1073760515060 ti 16, 9060 xt 16, b580 12
>>107376085
>>107376093actually, right is what it's supposed to look like even if you don't like it. mini led is dimmer overall because of the lack of dimming zones (only 1152)
>>107375584>for casualfagging next years top ends tvs will hz-match 4k monitors and completely annihilate them in hdr/brightness/color - it will all be over next yearWhat do you mean by this? 4k monitors aren't a good purchase cause TVs will surpass them?
>ram I bought out of stock for weeks>check it today, the price rose againhow does price rise on out of stock shit they don't even have any to sell is it just a game now
>>107373474i am completely PC building illiterate and just got a prebuilt in the mail. All of the fans are turning on except the 1 exhaust fan in the back of the case. I looked around and didn't see anything disconnected and the RGB is working so its getting some kind of power.Is this a software thing, like it is turned off in a profile or will kick on when it gets to a certain temp, or do you guys think it got damaged in shipping? I am not completely PC retarded but, I don't know a thing about putting them together.
it costs 400,000 dollars to buy noctua fans... for 12 seconds
>>107376133It is most likely not plugged in or the header it's connected to is damaged, to be expected from a sloppy shop prebuilt check again post pics if you dare
>>107375999Why is that?
>>107376133it's broken, plug in in a different pwm pinout to double check
>>107376149va has better contrast but there are too many other things wrong with the technology that make the better contrast not worth it
>>107376149>IPS + MINI LEDwould you like some bloom with your bloom?
>>107376104>5060 ti 16, 9060 xt 16,100-150 euro above their 8GB variants>b580a 3060 12GB but without DLSS, yikes
>>107376132retailer sets the prices and they auto adjust it if it sounds similar
>>107376160That's only a problem if you play with the lights off like a troglodyte teenager
PCs are so fucking cool, I wish jews didn't ruin them.
>>107376191they really are they're fucking awesome and even learning about the hardware that makes it all work is amazing
it's been a good black friday
>>107376220Euv lithography is reverse engineered alien technology
>>107376230>DDR4blud is on decade old tech skull emoji
>>107376181>play with the lights off like a teenagertruth nukewhy do they do this despite knowing it will ruin their eyes?
>>107376064Uh oh mini led haters got real quiet after this dropped
>>107376148I chased the cable from the hole on the left, everything comes together in the zip tide harness then back to the mother board through the hole in the right. What i am assuming is the rgb controller is on the bottom. Everything is connected and everything feels ok.
>>107376133errr... contact the vendor for some tech support maybe?
>>107376232No it's the result of hundreds of millions of man hours worth of workStop downplaying humans
>>107376181I started gaming with the lights on about 5 years ago and I could never go back. Having to game in the dark occasionally (someone crashing in my room) feels awful now and like my eyes are being raped by my monitor.Also IPS glow/backlight bleed just magically going away.
>>107376268Aliens makes it more interesting
>>107375211I always wondered about this troll. And the anons that fall for it. He does the exact same thing regularly. And he has for a few years.
>>107376268ehhh not that many hours or humans it was the work of a few hundred at the most
>>107373697more likely the pump will fail in a modern liquid cooler these days>chinkshit everywhere
>>107376250Goyim love self destruction
>>107376181I play with the lights off and my brightness is at 50 nits, I dont need to use glasses, been doing it for decades
The annoying thing with getting a new monitor is how shit it makes your other ones look in comparison.
>>107376129It doesn't mean anything, technology is constantly improving. When you buy next year it was 6 months too early to get the next new thing. Just buy when you can and you'll get what you get.
>>107376292A year of work for 1000 people is 2 million man hours. Way more than 1000 people are involved in semi conductors and it took exponentially more than a single year to create lithography.>>107376284Cuckold
Does anyone have a recommendation for an ATX case thatis small with decent airflow. I'm giving it to my brother with my old parts. He needs something basic to run a bike trainer and space is limited. GPU is a 3070ti (300mm). Most cases have lots of extra room in the front for drives I don't need. Pic related.
>>107373783power the system off, remove the power cable, press the power button to drain residual power, wait 5 minutes, and power it on again.if using Windows, what does the device manager show, any yellow bang in there?
>>107376301>50 nitsnonner your monitor can hit 250 nits, realistically 300-350+, why would you cuck yourself like this?
>>107376307yeah I notice the IPS glare since I got two OLEDs now.
The presence of a man's parents in his childhood can be directly measured by his likelihood to use monitors with the lights off
>>107376338100+ nits in a pitch black room is how you fuck up your eyes forever
>>107376354paying for features you don't use is how you waste money forevermax that shit out and turn the lamp on god damn
>>107374014check the system event logs and filter for "Error", i'll bet you see somehting in there about a power issueProbably did not need to clear CMOS, just removing all power for a while would have allowed it to self-reset.
Now that I finally built the $3000 PC I can build my dream game
>>107376381How?
>>107373474SOMEONE MAKE THE NEW THREADERINO NOOOOOW!!!!
>>107374760that shit was there 30+ years ago
>>107376399event viewer but you'd think that agentic ai os would be able to figure that out
>you should install more fans!No, the case came with 3 that is sufficient
>>107375924there are no good mini led monitors.
Storage pisses me off. I feel forced into buying the newest drives when older models are practically the same price, if not more. I ended up paying $20 extra for a 2TB 9100 Pro over the 990 Pro even though it's overkill. If I had the choice I'd just buy a high capacity SATA and call it a day, but that's impossible because I'd probably be paying more than any new NVMes. Well, at least i'm future proofed for pretty much forever
>>107375277>burn only creeps in aroundi just replaced a 10 year old 4k 60hz BenQ 32" IPS with a new 4k 120hz Dell 32" IPS because I could and not because I had to.the BenQ (10 bit color depth) still works perfectly, the Dell is an improvement because progress (plus it has Thunderbolt and all that crap on it).as much as i love the look of OLED the thought of spending $1000+ on a good monitor and then having it last only 4-5 years isn't my idea of a good spend.
>>107375285something with an N100
>>107375391working on global teledildonics standards and technology>got into it because i could feel it coming
>>107375277I am still waiting for an oled monitor owner who kept it for 4 or 5 yearsthese guys upgrade their monitors every single year I do not believe their dishonest words about 5 years no burn in they don't even keep them long enough to find out
>>107376551Well I just got mine last month but I'm hoping to get at least 5 years out of it. I'll let you know if we are still here then.
>>107375924
>RAM I paid $200 for last week is now selling for $280What the fuck? Surely it can't keep going up like this.
>>107376622Seriously? Ram I paid $145 for in August is now $442.
>>107376551I got c2 before c3 was out, use it all day every day, that good enough?
>>107376622I buybought for £260It now being sellsold for £799
>>107376453>>107376453>>107376453
>>107376622It can, and will. I panic bought some more and plan on selling the original kit I had when I can break even for a free upgrade.
>>107376655>Seriously?Bought it only three days ago. I was already paying the post-RAMpocalypse pricing for those sticks and yet it still keeps going up. Like shitty CL36 32GB sets are still going up. I might as well just hold my RAM, wait a month to sell and let it pay for the entire build at this rate.
>>107376502I'd love to fill my case up with 2.5" sata SSDs for storage but they're so weirdly expensive even before this memory shit.
>>107376399literally you could have just googled it
>>107376678I grabbed an extra set of 32gb 6000 CL36 for $200 a couple weeks ago. $396 now. I might flip it, but I bought that and a 4tb m.2 in case I want to build in 2026.
>>107376692NTA but I found a bunch of these, should I be worried?
I have a B450 mobo with 32gb ddr4 ram. If I get the best CPU for the platform (5900X or 5800X3D) and a new GPU like 5070ti I'm set for years right?
>>107376742that stornvme error is concerning, WTF is that?>good luck with tracking down all those COM errors, i just ignore them
>>107376757>5900X or 5800X3DExpensive, might as well just buy a used lga1700 board and move to that
>>1073767665700X is realistically also an option, there are good used deals since it's an old gen
>>107376764I have no idea, there's a bunch of them, a few say raid port 2 but I don't even know what that is. Clicking on it just opens up some binary code. Should I be worried? I thought all computers got random errors from time to time, aren't most of them innocuous?
>>107376811look for Device Manager, are there any devices in it with a yellow bang (triangle) symbol?
>>107376811did you install nvme drivers from ssd manufacturer site?that has never worked for me, starting with random errors in log and ending with corruption data loss.either use stock ms nvme driver or sideload ssd driver during windows installation or integrate into iso.
>>107376700>I grabbed an extra set of 32gb 6000 CL36 for $200 a couple weeks ago. $396 now.Damn, that's a good catch. Best bet is probably to hold onto it for a bit, since it'll basically only increase in value going forward and if you do end up building you'll have saved yourself a lot of headache.
>>107376858>has never worked for memicrosft NVME driver is from 2006 and just /works/, every vendor uses it as a default driver.>the only NVME driver I have used is for some old Samsung drives (really old, cannot recall the model) and it did work reliably to improve the write performance a tiny amount.
>>107376849Just these two, I'm not sure what they are.
>>107376888nvme are in storage controllers section
>>107376858I used this program, all of my drives are wd so it seemed like the best idea. Should I have not? Do I need to uninstall them and find drives somewhere else?
>>107376906No issues there, those were the only two warning signs anywhere.
>>107376888that stupid WD thing, you can ignore that, not actually needed, it's just for the WD tool (which no one uses) to be able to monitor the drive and show pop-ups or something.
What budget air cooler should I get for my new 14600k? I got a budget motherboard so I'm not able to OC the CPU. I was going to just get the cooler master hyper 212 black edition but it seems that is not very good? What would be a better alternative?
>>107375941never invert
