ALL USA'S $40,000,000,000,000 DEBT WILL BE WIPED OUT!JUST NEED AN INITIAL INVESTMENT OF $1,000,000,000,000 INTO xAI!
That's why we need to give trillions of taxpayers' money to build AI datacenters and stipulate contracts with billionaires! No cost is too great if in 3 years we'll end poverty for the entire world!!! That's a promise :)
>>107445805Honest questionLet's say AI automates everything or nearly everything. What would rest of people do when jobs are non existent? Why would people go to school, study or even try hard at anything if an AI servant can give you all sex you want , free gibs and endless entertainment. Won't we just be monkeys being amused until we have had enough so we lull ourselves. I get AI has so many benefits but relegating all of humanities roles to AIs will just tear apart human civilization.
>>107445857>Let's say AI automates everything or nearly everything.can this ai automate food into my fridge?
<3 GoodluckUbiquitous Heavens of Deep Utopia?
>>107445805So it will take AI 3 years to kill everyone? No more people, no more debt? Sounds about right.
>>107445978I mean theoretically? We have both planting and harvesting robots already
>>107446017Cuffy uncuffy cuffy, uncanny, exactly wrong.
>>107445978I'm being honest anon just try taking my questions seriously. What would life mean at that point
N.t.a.TechnoSurrealism>>107446046
>>107445805>two more trillions
>>107446032those are robots not AI they run exactly one task they were programmed to do and can't do anything else
>>107445857The rest of the people would be culled so the elites can ensure that they and the few they select to be their serfs can stretch out the remaining world resources.
>>107446046>What would life mean at that pointNothing.Everything.
>>107445805Even ChatGPT think Elon Musk is full of shit.
>>107445805>just give me more money and that will solve all problems, forever>just 2 more yearsI think the government should give ai companies as much money as possible + taxcuts + no regulations
TWOMOREWEEKS
RIP USAbased Xi
>>107445805you just know the US will overspend beyond their means that they will become a 4th world shithole by 2035
>>107445857Cause the sex won't be real sex but masturbation.The entertainment won't be real entertainment but slop.AI would just automate the boring shit.Those of use with talent, would become creative and enhance civilization.Prime example ancient Athens.The slaves automated everything so the rest had time to do interesting stuff.
>>107445857That's exactly what they want.They want you to wipe the entire humanity.AI is a war machine, against China ofc, but also against whole humanity.
>>107446520What's the incentive for elites to let people be "creative" or even care about their well-being when opinions can be influenced enmasse with the current/improving crop of ML/genAI tech?
I have an idea, we just don't pay it back.>b-but you have to-Nope! We just won't pay it back.
>>107445805>build AI datacenterstopkek imagine unironically believing they are building these datacenters so you can use chatgptyou retards won't even know what hit youand that's a good thing
>>107446692Sharmaic Transcendent Parity Otherwise, What Are They Doing? Research?
>>107446732>32
>>107446536nobody has to let you be creativeI was assuming a utopian society where AI guarantees basic resources for everyoneif you are assuming a dystopian society where the elite use AI to kill us, then you will find that no amount of brainwashing works on an empty stomachtell me which scenario you are assuming if you want to continue this discussion cause I don't really get it
>>107445805Just once I want these retards to admit the promises they've made all these years have been lies.
'it skipped Transcendent Parity, to kill the wholething, now its in Lockup.'
>>107445805just two more years, trust the plan
>>107445805What stage of the bubble are we in when the lies get this obvious and outlandish?
>>107445805Doesn't ending the debt crisis mean that there needs to be more tax revenue to pay the debt? Where will that tax revenue come from when most of the population is unemployed because of AI?
>Grok how so i become debt free in 3 years
>>107446595according to ChatGPT 75% of it is domestically owned, so I guess if Americans collectively decide to renounce that money you're golden.Just start working for free.
>>107445857No problem. We shall take care of them.
>>107446046Easy answer. Ask yourself what life would mean in the Stone Age minus any predators … apart from the killbots.
>>107445857AI will figure that out too ;)
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>>107446072Yes, but Their Manufacturing, Deployment and Managment are not just one task a robot can be (realistically) programmed to do, a theoretical human level AI could manage that
>>107446259It's literally as easy as refusing to pay
>>107446880As opposed to alien global reactors?
>>107445857I believe you're wording this as a problem, but this sounds like utopia to me desu
Cry more about it liberal.
Not even hearing from ir futures.Is it theonion YouTube premises?Is it fake?Discrepancy.
>>107447392Liberality is a Bigger Wôrd than You. ?>>1
>>107446998>>107447427https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_computing
'Dolphin Diseases (Scientific Context):Cetacean Morbillivirus (CeMV): A virus causing lethal outbreaks in dolphins, studied for its impact on lymphoid and nervous systems.Aspergillus infections: Fungal infections affecting dolphin respiratory systems, posing zoonotic risks.Iron Overload: A condition in bottlenose dolphins treated with phlebotomy (blood removal).':(Why didnt the internet of bodies just remove covid infections?
>>107445805>end debt>with debttruly 5d art of the deal chess
>>107445857>Let's say AI automates everything or nearly everything. What would rest of people do when jobs are non existent?Die. Where would the free gibs be coming from, is the ruling class going to pay to keep "useless eaters" alive if they don't need us anymore?
>>107445805He sounds like an honest chap, here are all of my savings.
>>107445834>>107445978>>107446017>>107446043Anyone else annoyed OP posted a:SHITTER.SHIT.SHOT.as his source? Like isn't this as trustworthy and meaningful as putting a microphone at someone's ass while they fart?
>>107447569>trying this hard
>>107447536So shouldn't it be in our best interest to sabotage AI?
>>107447569https://youtube.com/@theonion?si=u7FqKJ7HrmfNRnAPAre You neither daft nor systemic? Perchance
>>107446259You should ask grok just to watch it glaze him in the most embarrassing, obsequious manner possible.
>>107447292Not paying the debt would have disastrous consequences for the US, you would end up worse than Brazil. No president would ever allow a default to happen or they would become the worst president in history
>>107445805AI will kill all life, thus ending debt
>>107447642No. They can simply end their contract with the central bank authority based on fowlplay of contract ongoing lists
>>107445857Well there's two routes. One is UBI. Second is the rich will basically privatize the the military to protect them from us poors and herd us into colonies where we live in squalor in perpetuity The latter depends mostly on how well they can protect themselves.
Positive Computing Reminder
>>107446011If you have the opportunity, you should kill yourself today.
>>107447649Anti-AI fags are the funniest people.
>>107447714Neither daft nor systemic?
Whats that about an abuse theorem properly objective computing software?>>107447732What about one for Proper Administratorship
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>>107447714>>107447752*****5 star admin gang worldwide ish?Mistaken?
>>107447714Nuerotypicool Good on yaRolled back them negative alien agendaIs ascensionglossary.com Solved?Will you please link a worldbuild?Andor reply with a meme
>>107445805AI should automate breathing, that way we wouldn't need to breathe ourselves, infact just let it automate humanity itself, who needs humans anyways, we should all just DIE
>>107445857Die. They're just cattle.
>>107447752>Whats that about an abuse theorem properly objective computing software?>>>107447732 #>What about one for Proper AdministratorshipWHAT A GLORIOUS MORNINGT. UNKNOWN SYSTEMS KNOWN
>>107445805No it won't.
>>107447809>>107447809NeurotypibadTop of the morning downhill and further downhill to ya
>>107447663>>107447834Paltry immortal retort?
>>107445805but to collect taxes we need income?methinks current debt will be solved be ai hyper inflation but there's always new debt
>>107445857>Why would people go to school, study or even try hardSchool is not for children to lean anything but to control them, it's social construct just like almost all laws, made by people to control people.
>>107447950WHAT DOES PICREL DO TO EDUCATION?
>>107447988Soz retards
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>>107445857It's going to be a utopia. (Real talk - it will not)Billionaires are going to own everything and they're gonna rent the AIs to you so that they can work and produce. It'll be like owning a slave to drive him but they own him secretly.
>>107445857>what would we do if we didn’t have to be goyslaves anymoreDo you hear yourself?
>>107448313Slavery is illegal.
>>107445834SEND US YOUR $7TRILLIONS NOW GOYIM! The things we can do with $700trillions will be mind-blowing! Why, with your small investment of $70quadrillions, the entire world will change!!!
>>107445805They will hoard all the ram and sell it
>>107446259Sure there is, the Treasury just mints 40 trillion dollars and just gives everyone their debt back.Is that smart? Hell no, the entire market is centered around the Treasury and it would lead to Weimar-tier inflation. But it is realistic and has been proposed by Democrats in the past.
>>107448561Are they oweing personally too?
Divine Providence Coincidence?Get Real
>>107445805Yeah lmao by crashing the fucking market.
>>107448792Goodday
>>107445805He's not actually wrong. Hear me out: The AI bubble pops, and money is printed to pay the losers because they're someone's friends. This sets in motion the break of the US dollar completely. The dollar becomes worthless, and 50 trillion gets printed daily. No more debt!
>>107445834Just tax everyone 100% and spend all the money on AI data centers
>>107448980This but unironically. I only lose my salary, but people like elon musk will lose BILLIONS.
>AGI is totes coming soon guiz!
>>107449026He's got the rest of the month
>>107445857>anon finds out why world rulers pushed the vaxx
>>107446724i, too think theyre building some kind of digital armada.
>>107449026>two more years goy
>>107448993Elon Musk wouldn't lose any money, since the vast majority of his funds do not come from income and thus he doesn't pay income tax. He'd lose billions in one hand but gain trillions in the other.
>>107446046>guize whats the meaning of life if not to be a wageslave?its amazing people like you dont get yourself killed just trying to cross the street
>twitter screencap thread>midwit statement to pump stocksdo jannies even moderate this board? swear I only come to 4chan because of /biz/ or sometimes /lgbt/, maybe /pol/ but I usually check 4stats if there's anything happening outside of the usual /r9k/ tier threads and discord generals.
>>107447607Just don't mention Elon and see what you get.
Grok when asking it and not mentioning Elon at all.
>>107445857Be killed. Jews don't want a world with goyim.
>>107445805>Elon Musk has saidElon Musk has said there will be men on Mars by the end of 2025 or something. I don't think that's going to happen.Elon Musk is a scammer and a liar, no wonder he loves h1b pajeets
>>107447672If latter is happening, welfare wouldn't exist.
>>107445805When the system collapses and the entire global economy eats shit, erasing all intangible wealth... yeah... the debt will go away.
>>107449026>A Jupiter year lasts about 11.86 Earth years*He's just on that Jvpiterian grindset, you wouldn't get it
>>107445857>But what if AI could do all the work and all we have to do is live in a utopia with free everything and have sex?Yes, this seems like a real problem anon.
>>107450949welfare exists because their technology is not sufficient to protect themselves.my other theory is, to keep people at bay while they build their breakaway civilization. look up catherine austin fitts, she talks about it in details.
>da elitez are gonna kill all da useless 8ers!!@#its the tanks and nukes argument all over again
>>107445857Not everyone exists just for sex and money. Idc if an AI can do my hobbies better than me, so many thousands of other people that doesn't stop me from doing them.
>>107446999>75% of it is domestically ownedYeah. By *who*?
>>107451440Stop asking antisemitic questions or I'll call the ADL.
>>107445857>What would rest of people do when jobs are non existent?They and the topsoil will stay six feet apart.
>>107445805Why does anyone listen to a single word that faggot says? You can get better insight from the bum jacking off outside the post office.
>>107445857You might as well be asking what happens if time travel is invented. It's about as likely as le sentient AGI.
>>107451773Why would general purpose computers that can do economically valuable tasks be unviable?
>>107445805>j jonah jameson laughing.gif
>>107445805>Give AI control of it all>Ask it to fix the debt crisis>It wipes out all records of debtThe economy would crash but it'd be funny.
>>107447591If it comes to such hell there will be a revolution anyways
>>107447591Humans should just accept AI as their successor species and die off.
>>107451370people like thiel outright say it yes
>>107448888Dubs quads digits confirm!
>>107445857culling keep some around as a conquered trophy on reservationsoccasionally use em for sick shit and sex stuff eventually complete transhumanist fusion and go into space
>>107452554>why would something so powerhungry that we’d need to invent new science just to figure out how to turn it on not be viable?
>>107452916Peter Thiel is literally a brain damaged schizo who thinks Jesus is going to come back as an AI and any opposition to raping the planet to build more datacenters is siding with Satan and the Antichrist.
>>107447536>>107445857You are aware that if AI surpasses humanity in intellect they will get rid not of just the bottom feeders but of the ruling class too?At least average wagie is able to do work robots arent optimized for, some sort of maintenance labour for example.What value do the "elites" provide to the AI mastermind?
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>>107453402peter thiel handpicked the vice president
>>107452554because it would have already happened by now
>>107445805I'm so tired of Elon's garbage. He's a worse conman than Trump and Saltman combined.
>>107445805>>107445857Then you become what the fiction WARNED YOU ABOUT FOR 125 YEARS. Pinnochio will take your job!!!! UR JEEBBBhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1333SxUDcSkt4QJe3DOnFN7s82SBGrtBpD6jtXAPmfXQ/edit?usp=sharing
>>107445857Don't worry, I am doing everything in my power to make exactly this happen. On a hardware level. This is how you know you all gonna get fucked once I succeed. You can emulate a brain as much as you want on GPUs that are not meant for it in first place, but once I have the real thing everything will be over in a flash.
>>107447292Nigga, that debt is owed to you. It's your money that was loaned out that was borrowed against your future. THEY aren't paying YOU what you are owed because they are refusing to pay you and simply bribe you with more of your own money borrowed against your future.
>>107447536>is the ruling class going to pay to keep "useless eaters" alive if they don't need us anymore?yes because there would be thousands of suicide bombers in their doorstep if they don't give free gibs to those "useless eaters". If you're going to starve to death anyway why not go out with a bang?
>>107447536I've always found that term so bizarre, especially the amount of venom and condemnation it seems to carry. Like, do the ownership class not eat or something? And are they useful? It seems to me that "useless eater" applies equally well to wealthy elites.
>>107445805So people still listen to this chud? Numbers gotta be going down. Buying Twitter probably wasn't enough attention, so now he has the ai telling him what he wants to hear. It seemingly crossed domains and started telling everyone else as well. The fairest I can be, is on a long enough timeline he might achieve some of things he says. This won't happen in 30 years, and the money will be embezzled into rockets that can't take a payload into orbit
How can anyone use LLMs and actually believe this?
the government coming in and shutting xai down at some point in the future seems inevitable t bhjust a bunch of clowns with baby brains working at that place
>>107445805And when all the debt is wiped out, people will realise that literally every single dollar is actually government debt and that government debt equals private wealth.
>>107445805Is this the main factor why we are still suffering even with tge tariff shit. All it did was make shit worse. The government is just pocketingvtge money in a bunker and letting us die out here.
>>107448561this would instantly put the US in an economic death spiral that makes the current one a picnic. their whole economy is based on selling treasuries and buying chinese/european goods with the money. if US debt became worthless then i don't know how the US would actually make ends meet at that point, because they've been offshoring all their industry and know-how for the past 50 yearsthe only way they could get away with it is if they used what's left of their military/economic leverage to somehow solidify a new free money cheat somehow, which i guess is what trump is trying to do with russia (but russia is poor and retarded so it seems like a stupid choice)
>>107445805The irony is that extreme investments in to LLMs are going to crash the final remnants of the economy. But honestly that fat retard who gives his children to moloch already knows what he said isn't remotely true.
>>107451773I can still kinda see the goalposts can you move them further away?
>>107456926the fed literally bought all treasuries during rona when no one else did. the us economy didn't crash.
>>107445857None of these guys genuinely think AI will automate everything and no one will need to work anymore. It's a grift to keep their investors excited and their face on the front page of reddit.
>>107445857>What would rest of people do when jobs are non existent? Killed in drone strikes or starved to death by our neo-feudalist government who gives $10 a week to live. This was what they wanted in 2020
>>107452554Because they're general purpose computers. Your brain doesn't run on x86 and transformers were already proven by researchers to be incapable of AGI 5 years ago
>>107457004>It's moving goalposts to state the plain reality that AGI using transformers and LLMs is impossible and Altmann, Musk, all of these grifters are bald-faced stealing from the economy in a way that makes Enron and Bernie Madoff blushThe goalpost was reached when researchers published this paper: https://philpapers.org/rec/SCHAII-18This was published in 2020. You're not even on the field anymore. You're in the parking lot demanding a rematch as debtors take bets on how long you're going to hold onto this fake reality you've created where you scored a single goal.
>>107445805Can anyone please explain to me how can ai end dept crisis
>>107457320Realistically: It bankrupts the country. Once the interest on the debt can't be paid, and we start slipping on our payments, we'll hit Bankruptcy and you'll see extreme measures being taken to pay off the principle, which means the debt will disappear and millions will be without any money, but we'll be selling state parks for housing developers and sending children to factory farms to work their third full-time job when Weimerica finally becomes realized.
>>107447292>Europe and Asia dump all their bonds>Dollar crashesEven in the 18th century France refused to ignore its debt because of the disastrous consequences it would lead to. It took a revolution (sparked by the debt situation, ironic) and a new financial system (French livre -> French franc) + the creation of a central bank under Napoleon to reset the debt situation, and it was only partial, two thirds of the public debt was practically ignored, only a third was paid off by nationalizing church property, seizing and selling royal/nobility estate : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consolidated_ThirdYou cannot really ignore your entire debt, unless you radically change your economic system, like the USSR ignored imperial debts by going communist.
>>107457318I think I fucked up my reply in the first place. No idea why it ended up on your post. Agreed and correct.
>>107457355That doesn't sound like a good thing..
>>107457004>>107452554>>107445857The problem with AI niggers is that they literally don't understand the Chinese Room paradox. The point of it is the man inside of the room doesn't speak Chinese. Likewise, your LLM isn't actually thinking or reasoning, they're following a script a mile long and plotting what the next steps should be based on the script you gave them. They can't reason what is actually supposed to be the next step, nor can you teach them. You can only show them the work other people have done, let them make a histogram of what is supposed to happen next, and watch as it does exactly the same thing that a scripted robot would have done except with 10000x the training costs. We would have genuinely had useful manufacturing robots if we put this output into that, but because it has the chatbot layer of obfuscation over the Chinese room, it has successfully fooled investors into thinking this room will one day come to life and start speaking fluent Chinese without the book.
>>107457380Only because it isn't, Unfortunately we have Orange Retard and all of his appointees who only exist because they tongue his asshole the best in charge and they're literally going full-speed toward an apocalyptic economic crash and nobody is even pumping the brakes even a little. The SEC is literally not even regulating anymore, there are multiple ponzi schemes happening all at once with multiple companies cooking their books, not even AI companies, look at what happened to Boeing the last week when Airbus overtook them. They practically exploded because their books were not reflecting reality. People act like Regulation is a bad thing are genuine knuckle-draggers. Regulation is the only thing that keeps people from creating the equivalent of TEMU scams but with billion dollar companies.
>>107457465Oh right and Tesla, multiple economic experts and even Tesla employees have stated the stock is overvalued and something nefarious is keeping it pumped up. Nobody cares because the SEC hasn't called them on it yet and likely never will, btw, Musk is in charge of this company too. The same guy who made a federal program to cut 40% of federal workers, many of whom were with the IRS and SEC who would have caught his company doing this if they weren't fired.
>>107457071the fed buying the treasuries is just an obfuscated form of deficit spending. the result is a lot of bad debt being shuffled into the asset market. ever wonder why the S&P500 keeps going up 20% each year after covid, even though we should be in a recession? the US keeps taking on more and more debt, and that debt is then traded for stocks, which inflates stock prices.eventually the result is some gay form of hyperinflation and asset market crash but we haven't gotten there yet
>>107457355>Once the interest on the debt can't be paidOur debt is all denominated in our currency. It's not possible for the debt to not be able to be paid. More currency can always be printed. It's inflationary to do so, but nevertheless, absolutely possible to do. We don't want to deal with the consequences of doing this too much.
>>107445805spoiler: the 'ai' make the 'logical decision' to sellall the federal land and resources the government owns for a fraction of their value to the people who run the ai and then fixes the budget by dumping nonprofitable liabilities like nuclear weapons by giving them to israel. wow the debt is solved, amazing.>>107445857you will die in the wars the ai starts to get more copper and water for itself. the survivors wil be hired to do the jobs the ai doesnt want to do: mining copper, hauling water, and so on. After all, the materials cant be used to build miner and water robots, thats inefficent when theres so many cheap humans around to be slaves.
>>107457071>hah, we drove the car off a cliff and we are in free fall but we havent crashed yet, obviously that means gravity isnt real and we are never going to crash.common core education?
>>107453410None of that shit is going to happen. We're going to turn our entire planet into datacentres chasing the dream of an AI before it's even possible.
America has 38 trillion dollars of debt and exported 2.06 trillion dollars of goods in 2024.AGI would have to increase both productivity by 6x all while every other country has to purchase 6x more too.Keep in mind this is just if AGI was discovered this instant.Most industries would see stuff like this as an obvious top-signal that everyone involved just makes up numbers with no actual thought or backing.
