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>News & Rumors
Price rises for memory, storage, and GPUs expected to continue
Micron ends Crucial memory & SSD business
AMD Redstone announcement Dec. 10th
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch delayed or canceled
Nova Lake 2026
"9950X3D2" with Dual 3D cache & 9850X3D planned

>Omissions
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.
Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. 1.4V or 1.45V CPU VR voltage limit recommended.

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

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>PC Figures
<90mm base: Nendoroids, Deformed Figure, Mini Chara Stand
90-120mm base: Figma, Pop Up Parade (Non L/XL), Arylic Stand (<19cm height)
120-140mm base: 1/8 Scale, Pop Up Parade (L)
140mm+ base: 1/7+ Scale, Pop Up Parade (XL)
AVOID: Funko Pops

holding off on getting a new monitor I have a feeling next year's are gonna be much better

>Asrock rx9070 challenger all time low $509 on Newegg
Buy now

>>107469680
all monitors I had an eye on in the recent years got canned. MiniLED are really unpopular and the new Nvidia Pulsar seems to have issues so they went radio silent there as well.

>>107469685
>>>>>ayyyymd

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>>107469702
WHERE IS IT ASUS
WHERE IS IT NVIDIA
2025 IS OVER WHERE THE HELL IS IT

>>107469680
next years tvs will destroy all monitors for good
4k 240hz qdoled tvs, if you have the space for it 55-77" 400-500 nits full screen brightness, 2500 nits peak hdr
it's all ogre
pure non additive unfiltered rgb

for desktop cuckery you will finally have non eye straining 5k qdoled 27" displays I guess

and uh Tandememes WOLED 4k panels I guess

desu they need to drop RGB oled monitors already that will solve eye strain and look better too

>>107469551
>the newer cards have anywhere from 6-16x the L2 cache of the 3090 and don't need 350-400W to get the same level of performance
And tell me, what good is that L2 cache when you are out of VRAM?
>>107469726
That still doesn't look as good as CRTs or OLEDs do.

>>107469726
1) buy a 500hz oled and run 500fps frame gen at all times
2) buy a 600hz TN zowie and strobemaxx

dont buy just wait

Ok anons, how does this look? Fortunately got the RAM for about $320 earlier.

https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/JJ83Kq
>case and cooler are up for discussion

>>107469558
>3090 is an old card
I got the cooling and power for it.

>>107469702
>Nvidia Pulsar seems to have issues
Most likely a pricing issue, ASUS probably wants at least $700~800 for that 1440p IPS monitor.
People are going to buy OLED monitors at that price.

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>>107469772
>cooler are up for discussion
>Thermalright
Buyer beware. If you don't care about fan noise, it's fine.

>>107469772
I'd only change the cooler to something else because of rattling issues with the thermalright

>waited until 2024 to buy the rig
>waited until 2025 to buy the gpu
after 15 years of waiting this waitchad knew when to strike.
>and you can too just like and subscribe to my channel

>>107469736
Eyestrain is a big reason I don't want to touch the current qd-oleds. Well that and price. The MSI one a couple weeks ago was tempting though.

>>107469750
It's difficult to use up 12gb of vram and 16gb is practically unlimited
Talking about games of course

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>>107469764
Saar ive waited for 3 years now please let me buy

what is the quietest low wattage psu? 300W is all that's needed
it's for a desktop media server the psu is too loud making an annoying noise I don't know if it's the fan failing or coil whine or something else. It needs to be reliable it's on 24/7 but especially quiet

>>107469814
>Talking about games of course
The only game I still play that isn't 10-20 years old is going to be stuff like Minecraft with shaders and stupid render distances, so I'm thinking it will definitely be saturated a few times for some tasks.

waitfags be like
>the bubble will pop in 2 weeks anon

>>107469842
I think Be Quiet! has some good 300W PSU's

>>107469842
be Quiet Pure Power 13M for more affordable silent fans.
These aren't cheap though, 750W is priced near $90.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yWJBD3/be-quiet-pure-power-13-m-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bp026us
https://www.bequiet.com/en/powersupply/5944

You could also buy the expensive passively cooled PSUs.

>>107469726
>cs2
get zowie

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where is that nigga 7500x3d

>>107469791
>>107469801
Thats concerning, i dont want any rattling. Any suggestions? I would prefer air, and can throw up to $25 more for a better, quieter cooler.

>>107469937
Noctua is the only one that provides quiet the others all trade it for performance. At those price points you cannot beat Thermalright.

you people are so dumb you can't do real research before buying things
first of all the peerless assassin is old tech, the royal pretor 130 ULTRA is the real deal right now $60 for 7 heatpipes
and then you buy whatever silent fans you want, you're paying for the aluminium and gaining a free case fan

>>107469927
In Brazil most likely

>new build done
>fan curves done
>undervolted 5090 with a 90% power limit
>3dmark steel nomad scores at around 14000
>cyberpunk running around 110-120fps at rt ultra 4k
>fans barely audible
>gpu at 65c, cpu at 70c
Yep, it's gaming time

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Do people with high refresh rate monitors find PS1 games enjoyable? I don't know if this general is the right place to ask, but since you lot are buying hardware, maybe one of you can confirm/deny my suspicions.

The only games I really play are PS1/N64 stuff, so my eyes are used to games frequently dropping to 15~fps or lower lol. I recently bought a new monitor and the first thing I did after plugging it in was setting the refresh rate to 60Hz, since I'm worried that getting used to 144Hz will retrain my eyes and make all my PS1 games unenjoyable. Am I worrying too much, or do some of you really find it difficult to go back to these older games?

come to think of it that PSU must have been loud the entire time, my old PC just had such loudass fans I'd never hear it before

Why did you niggas wait until now to build your PCs?

>>107470010
I built 2 pcs this year for 2 different people and now I need to build a 3rd one by july 2026, I'm upgrading everyone in the household from 2013 to 2025, I got good prices earlier in the year, now I'll have to take the bullet to buy ram

>>107470010
That's the problem with being a wait fag. You don't know you've waited to long till you miss the opportunity.

>>107470010
Its about the same price no matter when you build

>>107469782
Their high end IPS monitors cost here 800€ so I don't see the issue. From what I've found now it still exists but it was de-prioritized.

>>107470010
I've built a PC for my friend and upgraded my PC just before prices went apeshit, feels good.

>>107470010
I was waiting for that 18GB 5070 SUPER
But ram prices and several previous happenings (Bitcoin, covid, ethereum and now AI) put and end to my wait

>>107469937
be Quiet Pure Rock 3 Pro is similarly priced in Spain and has better fans.
But it falls behind the Thermalright by a few degrees.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/be-quiet-pure-rock-pro-3-cpu-air-cooler/7.html

>>107469806
>The MSI one a couple weeks ago was tempting though.
that 1440p will be eyerapening
4k 140ppi 32" glossy is not enough to fix the 3d subpixels, matte diffuses it a bit, but not totally
27" 160ppi not sure not tried it yet
27" 5k 220ppi might be enough to solve qdoled on desktop if 4k is not good enough already never tried it
either that or swap to woled
or increase viewing distance and it will be fixed I guess but eh

>>107470010
Was waiting for GRE 16GB

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slava russia
death to naFo trannies

>>107470091
>>Was waiting for GRE 16GB
IT
IS
CANCELLED

>>107470067
At least the 5070ti exists
People waiting for the 24gb super cards are SOL and have to settle for a 16gb one since 3090s are kinda sluggish and 4090s are overpriced to hell

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>>107469990
I can use 60fps fine on phone
60fps games are fine
60hz on desktop? Feels fucking abysmal ain't even gon cap
maybe gets worse the larger screen too, smaller screen less noticeable
idk

>>107470010
not sure if I wanted to build
I have been investigating display tech instead
uncertainty is a slow and insidious killer

>>107470129
Looking breddy gud

I have a 360hz OLED, using an nvidia GPU
I can use the full 360hz through DP 1.4 as long as I use DSC, of course. Disable that and only 120hz is usable. If I switch to HDMI 2.1 I can confidently use 240hz, but that's it. The only problem I've seen with DSC is that it takes quite a while to get out of exclusive fullscreen but it's not often I do that, I mostly play games on windowed fullscreen (and I can use VRR fine).
Anything I should be aware of if I switch to AMD in regards to this?
I know AMD is fucky with HDMI 2.1 (specially on linux, from what I've seen) so I'll be forced to use DP 1.4. Will it handle 360hz, all of the colors, VRR, all of the bullshit the same way with DSC enabled? I don't care if I have the same problem where it takes a year to alt tab out of exclusive fullscreen games. I need to know that this shit works on the AMD side.

>>107470129
Isn't that just slightly better than the 9800X3D?

>>107469806
Fuck do you mean eyestrain
I get more eyestrain from my philips IPS monitor than my MSI QD-OLED and it's 1440p 27''

Don't worry about ram and storage prices, people. You'll be able to cloud game with only a 150ms latency. That's better than dialup! "Do you guys not have phones?" "You'll own nothing and you'll be happy." Wouldn't you rather pay $35 (a month) than $450 for new ram? "The more you spend, the more you save!"

If my current PC dies I’m gonna replace it with a Mac mini
I’ve always wanted to try a Mac

>>107470203
enjoy not running anything on it

>>107470234
I’ll just need to enjoy what does run

>>107470144
I worry that going from 144fps to the teens might be rough though. You play much PS1?

>>107470170
It's a single run on paid software, and probably a cherry picked result to boot. Don't pay it any mind.

>>107470129
Waitfags...

>>107470165
amd never had the same display jank as pre 5000 series nvidia gpus last time I checked
now in 5000 series nv fixed the connector so they no longer use 2 ranks or whatever the fuck it's called it's slipping my mind on a single connector when using dsc and stuff so maybe it's fixed now

>>107470184
qdoled pixels has this triangular pattern that makes it insanely hard to focus on the display like you are straining to focus all the time

>>107470290
last time I played ps1 was during the release on a crt tv probably

realistically speak the ram prices can't stay like this, it'll destroy the pc building companies, hardware retailers, all other pc hardware manufacturers, software companies, it's an entire chain that dies because pc building went from 1 billion customers to 20 million, so yeah, even the drumpf government will have to do smth about those ram prices, if EU doesn't do it first

>>107466103
Thanks a bunch I will note this down and look into some things

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Ok so due to shit economy and RAM prices skyrocketing I am forced to speed up buying a new rig. My aim is something that can run games and perform well for another 10+ years in 1080p/1440p.

my build :
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yZBtcx

PC is going to be used for gaming (for now in 1080p but when I upgrade to a new monitor then 1440p) like BF 1, LoL, Marvel Rivals, WoW, and some other newer titles when I feel like there's something worth playing, Blender and maybe some AI slop, art with PhotoShop/Krita.

Can I :
- optimize more
- cut costs even more
- is the PSU ok when it comes down to wattage or should I go with something cheaper or pricier
- the case is a placeholder so if someone has any suggestions I'm all ears, don't need anything flashy, no LGBT lights etc but proper ventilation, USB ports on top of the case and such.

people who unironically think that "ram shortages will last 2 years" is not a hoax to make dumb people pay $300 for 32gb of ram can't even realize how even 6 months of those price levels would bankrupt 90% of the pc building supply chain and cause the mutt economy to go into a recession

>>107470328
Despite what we think here in our little bubble, PC building and ownership has been fading for years. Companies like Micron just don't care. They don't care if they hurt Corsair, MSI, Gigglebites, etc. They're growing and making their investors serious bank. That's success to them and screw anyone else.

We're literally at a time where we're looking back and seeing what old hardware is viable today. And, even though I have a couple PCs that are pretty top notch, I'm looking at slapping my old 8700K/16gb cpu/ram/mobo into a case and maybe someone will have some use for it.

AM4 is roaring back because DDR4 hasn't inflated as much as DDR5. And, it still performs well. Welcome back to the future's past.

>>107470302
>qdoled pixels has this triangular pattern that makes it insanely hard to focus on the display like you are straining to focus all the time
Different QD-OLED monitors have different layouts that something like cleartype can work around.
I currently have 2 monitors, both 27'', both 1440p, one IPS (Philips long as fuck number, it's supposed to be Fast IPS and all that jazz but pretty good on sharpness) and the other one QD-OLED (MSI 271 QPX).
I am unable to tell the difference in terms of font fringing if I stick to the monitor close enough to go practically blind. It is a non issue. I spend more time shitposting and reading shit on the QD-OLED monitor than the IPS one even and I have to sit there and use a fucking magnifier to see a little bit of fringing.
Where I noticed this effect you're telling me is on linux (where you can actually alter this by patching freetype 2), so something tells me it really is all down to software and over the Windows side (at least on 11) they must have figured something out, because again, it's something I have to put effort to notice.
And if you check some QD-OLED monitor reviews, you can see the patterns don't align the same way, even the triangular ones.

>>107470382
it doesn't matter if they care, if it's bad for the economy the government will have to step in and force them to raise the supply and they will do that with micron and the bad gooks

>>107470380
The PC building supply chain could go teats-up today and it wouldn't affect any nation's economy in any significant way. I would be more concerned about what it will do to phone prices, PC prices, laptop and tablet prices... hell, even car prices. I saw a Landrover the other day that had over 40 modules, each with their own ram and storage.

should i be using the 3 splitter cable i got with my 5070 ti?

>>107470439
>bad for the economy
What you're missing is all the new AI data centers and their construction costs (labor, materials), employees (payroll taxes, income taxes), property taxes, income taxes, interest on loans, utility costs...

I would think this has a little more of an impact upon the economy than some kid not being able to afford an HP Omen PC at Best Buy.

>>107470470
Not if you can help it. Use the native 12vpwr cable if you can. If your PSU doesn't support it, use the adapter for now, but plan for a new PSU as soon as you can.

>>107470480
which one do you think employees more people and affects inflation the most? its the entire pc building chain, by far.

>>107469990
Yes but you're looking at it from the wrong angle.
Older games used to be played on CRTs. CRTs had a much higher motion clarity. Just with 60fps you could have something smooth as silk.
On LCDs, OLEDs or whatever, a higher refresh rate + framerate works to try to achieve higher motion clarity.
The thing is emulators do benefit from higher refresh rates. There's a project out there to achieve (on very high refresh rate monitors, I'm talking 240hz, 360hz) an effect very close to CRTs in terms of motion clarity. Some other techniques like black frame insertion, to achieve better motion clarity, require higher refresh rate monitors too. That is actually desirable for those older games.

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>>107469596
what's a good 4k 32'' monitor for ~500eur? I bought a 27 inch one but my retard nigger eyes are too weak for it

>>107470506
I'm not really worried about LCD ghosting, but the perception of movement. Even with a 144Hz LCD's inferior motion clarity, 144fps still has a greater perception of movement than any 60Hz CRT.

There's an RTX 5060 being sold on a second hand website and the card is supposedly unopened while being sold for 300$. Is there a catch, I don't get it. This is the exact card I need because of the low power consumption and decent performance.

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This is probably the best deal on the internet! Act fast before it's gone!

>>107470554
8gb vram

>>107470568
Don't care, I'm playing on 1080p and not that demanding games. The most demanding thing is going to be the stream.

>>107470505
Let's see.. combine system integrators, case builders, PSU builders, peripherals, other core component companies... round up... account for LGBT lighting factors, carry the 2, find mean/average....

Then compare to the multi-trillion dollar AI industries infecting every aspect of the modern world.

Yeah, the PC building industry could liquidate and maybe buy the AI industry coffee for a day.

>>107470563
Marvelous... and the free installation, well if I were to get a TV that size, it would be retarded not to have someone else install it and take all the liability. Imagine dropping that sucker?

Also, only $1,000 a month? I can't afford NOT to buy it!

Bought one of the dell alienwares with a 5080 because with cashback and discount savings it cost under 1800

I hate buying prebuilts but last time I bought a computer the prebuilt cost less than the graphics card in it did somehow because AI is ruining the planet

>>107470645
I can't blame you honestly. I spent $1400 just on my gpu. I think the new Alienware stuff is much improved. Post what you think when you get it.

>>107470350
10 MORE YEARS AT 1080P?

>>107470645
>>107470671
Prebuilts are kings now...until their pre-apocalyptic stock runs out. They're gonna scream up in price in a month or 2.

>>107470645
you can always upgrade the pre built and sell the used parts

>>107470645
You probably want to fresh install the operating system. It's probably borked with spyware.

>>107470703
>>107470687
>>107470686
>>107470645

Yeah, I know... I bought an hp omen with a 3080 ti in it in 2021. I went back and looked at the receipts... 2200 bucks and honestly pretty much top notch other than a 3090 at the time. Back then you had to do the newegg lottery to have a chance at buying a $1400 3080.

Other than having loud fans it's been fine but the past four years have taught me waitfagging is a losing game, although I do prefer having a self build.

>>107470419
>Different QD-OLED monitors have different layouts
sure the older gen are even worse
>cleartype can work around.
not really how are you gonna work around objects?

>I am unable to tell the difference in terms of font fringing if I stick to the monitor close enough to go practically blind. It is a non issue.
must be blind bro
comparing 140ppi ips vs 140ppi qdoled in 4k I can see fringing from an arms reach easily still
it's clear as day
on matte samsung this was kind of not that bad, on philips glossy layer Idk what they did to it but even fully R/G/B test screens you can see color 3d warping moving around when the test pattern should be just pure color
like you are looking at a 3d object at all time
weirdest shit I have experienced
it's like objects are not rendered in a solid color but one color contains all rgb colors and they are not forming a coherent color together, this is apparent if you take close up shots too, IPS looks solid, QDOLED looks like the entire picture is fragemented, like some old AMOLED low ppi shit
maybe woled is better have not tried it, else maybe it's time to go back to lcd

this on w11

maybe you get less sensitive to it over time maybe some people are just fucked maybe idk

>>107470510
use 150% scaling retard

>>107470563
Tandememe panel caps out at 83" which is the max you should buy
bad deal!

>>107470868
But that sale price is hard to pass.

So what do people generally do when they have more case fans that fan headers on their motherboard? Get one big fan hub or get a bunch of splitters and spread them out across all available headers?

I have four open headers and 7 case fans, trying to figure out the best config.

>>107470554
Bump because I want to elaborate on my question. This guy sells other devices too and was wondering if they are stolen or something, it makes no sense otherwise and I don't want that.

>>107470925
Daisy chain the fans or a fan hub if you wanna deal with the usually dogshit software

should i bother with 4k on a 9070 xt or stick with 1440p this monitor's starting to feel a bit too small for me

>>107470947
Who knows. The gamble is up to you.

>>107470987
Well, I'm asking because you people are more knowledgeable and it might be a common trick.

Anyone else tracking the current prices of their build and secretly thrilled over how much more it would cost to build, today?

>>107469596
biting the bullet . just bought dark power 14 850w for power.
>9070 XT vs 5070TI
They look on par. Any catches to know about either one? 5070TI better raytracing(?) The 9070 XT looks like it runs cooler, which is the main selling point for me. Comfort is king bb.

>>107471019
My ram went from costing just a bit more than my mobo to costing more than my gpu. This is how an oil prince must feel.

should i get this pc for $1100 at my local walmart?

https://www.walmart.com/ip/iBUYPOWER-ESA7R77XT01-Gaming-PC-Desktop-AMD-Ryzen-7-8700F-AMD-Radeon-RX-7700-XT-12GB-32GB-DDR5-Non-RGB-RAM-1TB-NVMe-SSD/13512601135?classType=REGULAR&athbdg=L1103&from=/search

>>107471028
AMD still has issues with multimonitor and VR support, and has since the launch of the 7000 series. But if you're using it on a single monitor then it's great

>>107470676
not a problem with how games are nowadays, a bit troublesome for art but that's it (since I still enjoy games I play on consolewithout a problem and find resolution a meme that you get quickly accustomed to). Also I stated that I'm going to upgrade monitor later in time.

>>107471019
It makes me sad actually, my RAM went from 100€ to 350€.
It just means my next GPU will be even more expensive.
1500€ for mid range card like 6080 is very likely.

>>107470925
your case has no fan hub?

>>107471048
multimonitor and VR was fixed ages ago. like early 2023.

>>107471048
Nice to know, I have a vive I got second hand, been meaning to try out VR.

>>107471122
really? I am vive anon. 9070XT supported now?
also blessed posts

>>107470925
You can get a fanhub from arctic for like $12. Then whatever curve you apply to that will apply to all fans on the hub.

>>107471040
Yes. But if you want to be sure, go to PCPP and plug in all the parts (generally use the cheapest ones there, since that's what system integrator builders do and see where you land. If you're saving a few hundred bucks, it's a deal. Make sure you add in all costs and find a similar case with the same number of LGBT fans.

>>107470998
If it's too good to be true it probably is.

The corsair PSU I have (RM850X shift) has a 12 pin to 2x8 pin PCIe cable.
I'm going to be installing a 9070xt that has 2 PCie 8 pin connectors.
From what I understand, normally each of these PCIe cables can handle up to 300W. I think the 9070xt can get quite a bit higher than that. Can I use one of these cables or should I bother with 2 standard separate PCIe 8 pin cables instead for good measure?

>>107471211
ALWAYS use individual cables whenever possible. It's free insurance against a problem that may or may not arise.

What's the difference between these 2:
>Zotac Gaming GeForce RTX 5070 Ti Solid SFF 16GB GDDR7 DLSS4
>Gigabyte GeForce RTX 5070 Ti Eagle OC 16GB GDDR7 DLSS4

>>107471230
without looking at the exact specs, Zotac generally uses cheaper parts. They're not a bad company, but are closer to PNY than MSI or Asus

>>107471196
Well a brand new from a store with a warranty is around 380$ so it's not that big of difference technically but for me it is.

>>107471276
I'd pay for one at the store. That way if something is wrong you can return it.

>>107470925
Each header can run 2-3 fans with basic splitters to have independent software control over fan groups.

Shit, I bought an MSI 5070 Vanguard on sale.

Is there really bad coil whine or is it a lottery?

Just a thought for people plan on building, but are worried about affording now at expensive prices Vs. waiting and having the prices even higher, look for 0% financing. From a financial perspective, ALWAYS take free money. Even if it's just 6 months at 0%, take it. Again, this is if you are committed to a new build, and it's just a matter of when.

But this is only if you're good with money and there's no chance of missing a payment. If you get that no-interest financing and miss a payment, you're gonna get bent over with like 30% interest.

Plus, using and paying back credit helps your credit score. And it's a free way to do it.

>>107471227
Aright I will I guess. Less tidy but I'm really unsure about what 12 pin can do.

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>let me guess, you need more?

it just more than 2x'd in price the seller disappeared from amazon now amazon is selling and shipping it
it's over
AOC is the cheapest dual mode here again

but according to report the dual mode looks like shit so

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>>107471346
Consider cable extensions. They're cheap and can really clean up a build.

>>107471343
based creditmaxxer
my credit is completely cooked due to debt and missed payments I can't literally do anything, next year however I will be absolved of my sins due to paying off and not getting new debts for several years
I will once again be a free citizen

>>107471374
needs a white mobo and a white gpu

>>107471389
A lot of us have been there. Take it as a life lesson. Get some credit as soon as you can, like with a secured credit card and start using it responsibility. I went credit-free for some years and thought having every bill on auto-pay would give me a good credit rating. It does nothing. I went to buy a car and learned I had NO credit score. Now, I have and use credit responsibly. Good luck.

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>>107471343
I've been telling people klarna is right there

You Can Have That 5090 Today

>>107471390
It's a backup PC. I used what I found cheap and threw my old 3080 ti in it.

>>107471436
And still be paying £300 a month for it by the time the 6090 comes out.

>>107471343
It's so funny to see the consensus online to be
>YOU NEED TO PAY FOR IT ALL AT ONCE
when 0% financing is offered pretty much everywhere. I mentioned grabbing a macbook pro and putting it on installments through apple and people lost their minds. If I can't make that payment then I have much bigger problems to worry about.

>>107471436
Don't know about them, but it's best to assume all lenders are predatory. Read the fine print and don't screw it up. It can be a good option.

Amazon offered $150 for getting their credit card. I grabbed it, put that toward my build and took 0% financing for the rest. Killer deal.

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>>107471343
It's free money

Best 1000W PSU thats quiet as shit and can future proof me? Im going to be using a 5070.
Im looking at be quiet and Seasonic Plat+

Also hoping it isn't too long but I haven't picked out a case so I don't mind if I have to get a huge case.

also, if anyone can weigh in on this >>107471327 it would be appreciated --- I think I made a mistake and will return this ASAP once it arrives and get the Gigabyte 5070 12GB or am I being delusional?

>>107471485
They're banking (pun intended) on people being late so they can charge you 30% or more interest. And, I'm sure a good many people are going to screw it up.

>boughted new PC
>still come to the thread
>Dont feel anything
>Already got everything.
>No price hikes effect me
>Don't feel the thrill of getting a good deal

Kinda empty, you know?

>>107471428
this. I have about $80k in credit available to me right now. I have $0 debt anywhere.

Bankers hate me

>>107471513
anon there are waitfags in this thread that will probably kill themselves over prices. Please don't gloat

>>107471513
I think it was Mr. Spock who once offered this wisdom.
"After a time, you may find that having is not so pleasing a thing after all as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true."

Me, I see my August build that cost $1550 now costing $2400 and feel giddy like a little kid on Christmas.

Is this build decent?
amd ryzen 5 9600x 6-core 12-thread
MSI PRO X870-P WIFI
Patriot Viper Venom 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
Gigabyte GeForce RTX 5070 Ti Eagle OC 16GB GDDR7 DLSS4
SN850X 2TB
MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750W
Phanteks NV5 MK2 Black

>>107471211
MOBO PCIe slot provides around 75W iirc so I'd suggest separate cables like the other anon, that card pulls around 300-360W depending on model and can shoot up over 400W for extremely short periods of time(won't be an issue with separate cables and a good PSU, which that 850x is).
Also undervolt and drop power limit(easiest to do both in Adrenalin software) and you'll shave 30-50W off of its power demand when you're actually using it for gaming/other. You can also bump the clocks a bit, just look up a guide.

>>107471428
as EU cuck I believe the credit system is kind of the complete opposite of the US
I need more proof of income and so on for most things
but missing payments and what not I am almost completely shunned out of society in various regards, or close to it kek

>>107471548
Solid 1440p build. 4K with upscaling and maybe fake frames. Just keep checking prices and competitor pricing right up until the moment you press "Buy". Things change rapidly

>>107471548
>MSI PRO X870-P WIFI
The USB4 will take four lanes just as warning

>>107471460
talk about credit and debt with normies (pleb normies) and they fear debtmaxxing to the degree they don't even want to take advantageous loans (student debt)
literally just loanmaxx

>>107471565
Well, look into a secured credit card. I don't know if they have them in the EU, but here, you plop $500 into a bank account and they give you a credit card with a $500 limit. You can't use that $500 while you have the card. It's a financial instrument for building or rebuilding your credit. Eventually, if you don't screw it up, you can get a normal credit card. And, in the mean time, you're building credit.

REMINDER: SAM ALTMAN IS BUYING UP ALL YOUR RAM ON CREDIT, YOU CAN GET THAT NEW PC ON CREDIT

>>107471513
that's why I never consoom and always wait
the ride never ends, the leaks of future hardware never stop coming
infinite dopamine cycle

>>107471530
imagine not cashing it all out and starting day trading with leverage
literally losing 10% gains every single day

>>107471605
I'm literally using debit like a cuck, but I guess I will start using credit when my RealLife™ starts for cash back and whatever else

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>>107470858
>tfw already using 200%

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I've posted this before, but 99% of everything in this picture was bought with 0% financing. I think I owe about $550 across Best Buy and Amazon.

JUST DON'T MISS A SINGLE PAYMENT EVER. EVER!!

>>107471639
>I'm literally using debit like a cuck
I used to do exactly that, but now I use a credit card more and more for the 1-3% cash back. Free money.

>>107471639
>imagine not cashing it all out and starting day trading with leverage
>literally losing 10% gains every single day
There is a fee to turn it into cash, and also day trading is worse than crypto gambling anon

>>107471640
that's fucking giant as fuck, are you blind?
get glasses

>>107471664
seems about the only reason, it's not exactly like you build credit here like america
idk what the benefits are really

>>107471673
>day trading is worse than crypto gambling anon
just buy the dips how hard can it be

>>107471548
Looks fine to me other than the RAM. It's not listed as compatible on your MOBO's support page, check here: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-X870-P-WIFI/support#mem
Can unsupported kits work? Sure, but personally after having RAM that wasn't supported in two separate builds for years, I don't even bother. Too many headaches.

>>107471673
^This
Invest for the long term. Start aggressive and over time move conservative. Halfway through start moving into dividend stocks.

And, saving money in a bank account with current inflation and no real interest rates paid means losing money.

>>107471158
9070xt/7900xtx is basically a 5070ti but sucks down more power

>>107471487
>>107471487
Anyone please respond ;___;

I'm buying a 3090

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I wanted to wait for the 5080 Super to upgrade my 3080, but since that fucker is likely delayed or even cancelled, I guess I'll just get the 5090.
I have absolutely no faith in Nvidia or AMD giving 32GB of memory to their next series, as it'll just be eaten by the AI sector and the prices are going to be high all across the spectrum and availability bad, so there's even more waiting in the future even when the next gen comes out.
Paying €2500 or a bit more for the 5090 will likely be the best purchase longevity wise when it comes to GPU and I bet the average 5090 is going to be over 3 grand easy in 6 months as memory prices keep on shooting up and the 5090 availability is throttled by Nvidia.
What a world we live in.

>>107471694
>idk what the benefits are really
Like I said, if your credit card has benefits like cash back or flyer miles or something, you're building that up. Also, the free money thing- If you're gonna spend 500euros a month anyway, it's better to keep your money for a month and pay it off later. The gains are minimal with minimal spending. But in larger purchases, it adds up. If you have 25K saved up, buying a car and paying cash Vs. taking low/no interest financing prevents that 25K from working for you in safe investments or a high yield savings account.

>>107471722
any 1000w cybenetics platinum psu

>>107469953
>Noctua is the only one that provides quiet the others all trade it for performance.
>nearly $200 for an air cooler
The price is egregious but I can't deny that it's tempting after living with the noise of my Thermalright cooler for the past year. I'm trying to convince myself that it'll be worth it if I can get at least 10-15 years of peace and quiet out of it instead of hopping around to the latest FOTM chinkshit being shilled whenever I do upgrades or a new build.

>>107471747
Just get an RTX 9000 PRO it has 96GB VRAM

about to order a mp700 pro xtx. anything better?

>>107471586
>The USB4 will take four lanes just as warning
can you explain further?

>not listed as compatible on your MOBO's support page
Any alternatives?

>>107471702
>>107471816

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>>107471747
Step back for some time and think if you really need a 5090. And, if the gains are worth a ridiculous amount of money.

Mr. Spock again: "After a time, you may find that having is not so pleasing a thing after all as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true."

The 5090 will literally never drop in price and every single other GPU will

not sure if it was the local retard or someone else talking about this a couple of threads ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx_K93XPSYg
x99 vs am4, very interesting, i take it everyone outside him can imagine the result

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>>107471837
the FIFTY ninety dream

>>107471871
No, quite the opposite. current-gen GPU production will ramp down and vram prices will continue to rise. Even with cheap ram, RTX 4000 series cards went up in price as the 5000 series approached. We're at the bottom of GPU prices right now.

>>107471894
>We're at the bottom of GPU prices right now.
I already missed the 5090 sub msrp dip
its over

>>107471816
check https://mobomaps.com/ from the OP. It means that things like secondary m2 slots have less lanes available. This board at least has no GPU lane sharing but unless you really want something from this specific board e.g. USB4 you may be better off with a cheaper chipset.

>>107471722
be Quiet Pure Power 13M is a good balance between quality, noise, and affordability.
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/5/

>>107471881
imagine paying $3000 for something thats gonna die on you later because of shitty power connector

>>107472011
on a long enough time line everything dies

>>107471881
this dude is unintentionally fucking hilarious. a viewer had to send him the card lmao

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Is there anything cheaper & better than an Elgato 4K S game capture device?

My CM Storm Recon is finally dying and I see it's unavailable now, what's the spiritual successor?

>>107472031
he's a terrible youtuber and a shill for the dumbest worst products possible

>>107472073
Who is that? All I know is his eyes are too far spaced apart and it makes my head hurt.

>>107472109
plasma tv for gaming, most of his videos are just ads

>>107472109
all i know is he had a complete meltdown with pink eye when he waited for outside and couldn't buy a 5090

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>>107472073
when did you start watching
he did not have sponsors or ads until very recently
you have missed all the content

>>107471477

There are tons od 0 apr cards out there. I have a high credit score and no debt so I churn rewards cards. I have a side woodworking business (more of a hobby that partially pays for itself) so I open a new business card every year too. Normally you can get a rewards card with $200 bonus and 1k spend or a business card with $750-1000 bonus and $5-6k spend in 3 months so it's easy to hit.

I never carry a balance but the other anon is right- don't turn down free money.

Bank of america has a rewards card right now with 2% cashback on everything, $200 bonus on $1k spend, and 15 months 0 APR.

>>107471825
Do you care about the RGB shit or no?

CMH32GX5M2B6000C30
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/memory/cmh32gx5m2b6000c30/vengeance-rgb-32gb-2x16gb-ddr5-dram-6000mt-s-c30-memory-kit-black-cmh32gx5m2b6000c30
CMH32GX5M2B6000Z30K
https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-VENGEANCE-6000MHz-Compatible-Computer/dp/B0BPTKD797?th=1
Both more expensive than that initial kit you posted but they're RGB.

It's unfortunate but CL30 is going to be harder to come by. I don't really have more time today to look into this but there's a couple options for you.
Just paste the model number into the search bar on the support's memory page that I linked you if you want something cheaper.

>>107471881
>Broderlands 4
>45 fps
Fucking kek

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should i redo? i think i slid the cooler too much trying to mzake it align or can i just wipe away the excess with a cottonstick

>Odyssey G75T 27” WQHD
>LC27G75TSERXEN
I bought this years ago. Other than dumb "user experiences" problem I don't complain.

Is there any practical reasons to go with something else?
Also few questions as I've stumbled on rtings...
- I understand that HDMI licensing, but why many monitors simply end with 1 HDMI + 2 DP? Can't be there more DP slots?
- What's the deal with USB-C these days on monitors? Is this a "docking station/upstream" for laptops (with optional charging)? Or this is just alternative video cable as opposed to HDMI / DP?
- Did / does anyone ever used daisy chaining?
- Finally, whatever the ethernet port is used for?

got everything but the mobo and the psu...the shipping company fucked me over and made me wait a fucking week for what takes other shipping companies two days...still got two days of wait left until i can finally build my rig.

>>107472209
Ignore it. Thermal paste is non-conductive.

>>107472225
I waited for a couple months for a 9800x3d. Don't feel bad.

>>107472125
for me, it's that shitty stream he did where he tried to remove his monitors matte coating by wrapping it in wet paper towels. it did absolutely nothing. he then spent the next two months begging for donations for a $3000 samsung oled kek.

>>107470844
Anon I'm not talking about an arm's reach, I'm talking about a hand's reach, ok?
Like I can distinguish the fucking pixels and I'm still not seeing enough fringing. I'm telling you there are models where this problem is pretty much solved.

>>107472210
'cause it's a VA panel and you aren't getting the best image quality you could possible get until you upgrade to an OLED, also all VA panels are very prone to ghosting.

>>107472209
Just clean off the excess paste

>>107472266
Got it.

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>>107472242
thank you for the sympathy bro

>>107469726
>pul saar!

>>107472254
>it's that shitty stream he did where he tried to remove his monitors matte coating by wrapping it in wet paper towels. it did absolutely nothing.
never happened I don't think he owns a single matte screen
if you are referring to the collabo when he was talking to that other guy maybe
hows your memory lil bro

>he then spent the next two months begging for donations for a $3000 samsung oled
yeah he's gonna do the ol peelaroo on the S95F

>>107472263
the latest gen qdoled monitors have the same subpixel structure nothing is solved
if you can't see fringing on 1440p 105ppi idk what to say man
the close your get the worse it gets also

>>107471931
I don't really need USB4. When I use mobomaps with (AM5 WiFi MSI ASUS GIGABYTE E-ATX under 200$) it gives me only one rec:
Gigabyte X870E AORUS XTREME AI TOP
this shit is pricey, any other alternatives?

>>107472209
you used too much, but yeah you can just wipe it away. be thorough.

is 550W psu enough for a 5060ti 16gb and 5700X?

>>107472327
>never happened I don't think he owns a single matte screen
It did happen. I've been following him since January.

Also peeltards are genuinely retarded. OLEDs are extremely prone to damage and voiding your warranty for glossy is retarded as hell. He should just get an LG C series TV and suck it up. Quantum Dot is a meh and peak brightness is obnoxious past 2000 nits, it literally hurts your eyes
t. G5 owner

>>107472365
It is a dumb process. About a decade ago I tried it with an old 120hz monitor. The results weren't stellar and the screen coating got really difficult to clean.

>>107472336
>E-ATX
I'll assume you meant ATX. The x870e chipset is more expensive than the x870 and tends to have dedicated USB4 as well. The B850 chipset would be interesting if you don't want USB4 and need more m2 slots

You don't need a new GPU. Nobody is forcing you to consume product.

>>107472394
Yeah bro just turn down your settings.

>>107472360
Yes

>>107472400
You don't need to turn down your settings, you're not playing new games anyway.

>>107472394
you're right, the 5090 will last me a good while. then I'll sell it for 125% it's value and get a 6090 for $3000

>>107472413
I'm saying this to the people stuck on 3060's or 3060 Ti's. They need to jack off and get some post nut clarity before they waste a grand on buyers remorse.

>>107472421
What if I'm on a 1060?

>>107471873
This feels like tech youtube content from years ago, when it wasn't just drama and shilling

>>107472436
Don't spend more than $300 on a new GPU unless you have to. Work out your priorities.

went from the 1070 to the 9070xt, this is how you upgrade kids, 10 years jumps, waited for the best time to buy too

>RTX 5070 for $400
Do I take it? I'm on a 3 year old 3060

>>107472444
>$300
I think the 9060 XT 16gb is a good value @ ~$350-$380

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>tfw not being a ramlet

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>>107472365
>It did happen
never saw anything like it, on what? LCDs? lol

>OLEDs are extremely prone to damage
if you have a sub 80iq sure

>voiding your warranty for glossy is retarded as hell
too bad Samsung gatekeeps the best panel behind a matte layer and this is the solution to it

>He should just get an LG C series TV and suck it up
he already has one and he's not coping with WOLEDs anymore as you know

>Quantum Dot is a meh and peak brightness is obnoxious past 2000 nits, it literally hurts your eyes
so you don't agree

>t. G5 owner
based diagonal dithering enjoyer

>>107472378
>The results weren't stellar and the screen coating got really difficult to clean.
the screen behind qdoleds are just glass and it's easier to clean though
and samsung is slapping HEAVY matte on monitors now

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>>107469596
bought these and added to my existing 16gb 5800x3D for $23
how good did i do?

>>107472459
>laptop

>Using an OLED monitor for about a year
>Notice a lot of banding in certain games/youtube ambient mode and such, guess I'll get used to it
>All this time with an nvidia GPU and the default settings, HDR enabled or disabled
>Switch to an older AMD GPU temporally
>Banding pretty much gone or unnoticeable
What the fuck

>>107472449
went from the 1070 to the 5070ti, this is how you upgrade kids, 10 years jumps, waited for the best time to buy too

>>107472459
>tfw I'm not using a throttled laptop with gimped components

>>107472480
I'm embracing linux tho

>>107472462
Yeah you feed your 5800 slow ass 3000mhz ram
t. 5800X 4x8 3600

>tfw just came after seggs with gf
>no longer feel like spending $700 on a new GPU
what is this feeling called

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>>107472492
>>107472492
i mean zero difference for my use especially when i bought it so cheaply
the 96mb of cache makes up for it, no?

>>107471763
>>107471997
thank you anons. will check out further.


has anyone else heard or seen any issues with MSI 5070 vanguard and coil whine here? or do you think those people have bad PSUs and thats why they have coil whine?

i am fairly sound sensitive and this time around im not using an AIO for my new build

>>107472462
vengeance lpx does have a bad reputation and 3000mt/s is a bit slow for ryzen 5000, but just enjoy the computering

>>107472462
good buy for $23 unironically
>>107472492
gotta step those numbers up
>>107472552
never trust AI for performance comparisons
it truly just makes shit up, i mean it, it's even worse than the reddit poster it cites as a trustworthy source

>>107472567
coil whine is lottery, just use it at a lower power

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>>107472552
I wouldn't be able to explain it to you, so I'll let google

>>107472459
Oof... I hope you didn't pay more than $1200 for that slow space heater.

>>107472590
by lower power, what do you mean?
undervolt?

or make sure I dont max out the PSU wattage?

>>107472612
I mean lowering power limit

>>107472567
>MSI 5070 vanguard
Hope you don't pay too much for this, you're better off buying a 5070 Ti if a 5070 Vanguard costs nearly $700.

any ssd sata recommendation?
one dude offers 30 european dollars for a 870 evo samsung 1tb but I read off plebbit that they fail a ton
I have a mx500 500gb rn and it's working well

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>>107472591
the x3D l3 cache makes up for that

>>107471588
debtmaxxing is tight but only if you have gauranteed income. I prefer discount maxing and paying off in lump sums. deferred payments at 0% only makes sense if you are using the capital to make more money.

>>107471717
I ended up with a 5070TI.
>it just works
sometimes it do be like that.

>>107472459
>Secure boot off
>LTSC
Just switch to Linux

>>107472616
Im sorry, I am having trouble udnerstanding because this is my 3rd build but its been 10 years since my last. Is this on the PSU or GPU side?

My apologies if I appear like an idiot, I am trying to get up to speed after being out the of the loop for a while

>>107472639
>0% only makes sense if you are using the capital to make more money.
For me, it makes sense in that I always want to have a few grand in the bank in case of an emergency. Like the reserve fuel in a military aircraft that you normally can never touch.

>>107472679
power limit the gpu using msi afterburner software, google it

>>107472639
>grew up economic illiterate parents
>procrastinated 2 decades away
It's over
if only you knew how goods things could have really been

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>>107472590
My graphics card's coil whine is louder than my fans, and I have a toaster itx build. Seriously considering returning the damn thing.

>>107472386
yea I didn't realize ATX also fits my case....
Now i see these mobos:
MSI PRO B850-S WIFI6E
MSI PRO B850 VC WIFI6E
MSI PRO B850 VC WIFI
MSI PRO B850M VC WIFI6E

wtf does VC stands for? Also are these better alternatives?

>>107472728
>toaster itx build
Maybe set your PC farther away, frog nigger.

>>107472067
Looks like the same thing as my HD60X, no complaints.

>>107472714
Mitigate. Get a retirement account going now and max your contributions. Start a second personal investment account. On a scale from conservative to aggressive, go just above the middle ground toward aggressive. Think long term, even if you're starting late. Don't play the day trader game. Eye on the finish line, not the next few years.

Don't overspend in your day to day life. Eat in. Keep your phone for as many years as possible. Don't live like a pauper, but don't spend where you don't have to. Learn to be financially smart.

And, I'm sorry, keep PC building costs to a minimum.

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I'm going insane, my computer keeps freezing and afterwards all my AMD drivers are fucked up. I suspect it's because of windows forcing updates on me... but can it do so when I'm running programs and doing stuff?
I have made all kind of changes and fixes to disable windows automatically replacing and updating drivers, but this keep still keeps showing up.

>>107472755
I can hear it across my room. I think I'll return it, sorry wagie.

>>107472800
windows is trying to override the drivers you installed, stop it

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>>107472819
>stop it
But I've tried this, not sure what else I can do. Disabled automatic updates on settings, fixed settings like this and some fixes I found around internet. It still keeps forcing it.

Also is it possible that it can try to override the drivers while I'm in a game? My computer has had issues like this while I've been in a game.

>>107472800
are you on insider branch?

>>107472855
do a DDU uninstall all GPU drivers, reboot and install the AMD drivers immediately

>>107472624
870 Evo had some production issues during COVID times. 2021, I think.
> mx500
Crucial stopped making these a while ago. Nor will there be a replacement, now that Micron has sent Crucial to another dimension.

>>107472692
Got it, I got it on my current build but I never really messed with GPU OCing, I only did my old Intel 4770K on stock/undervolted and called it a day back in 2015

Thank you anon, appreciate the help

>>107472728
>>107472812
I heard PSU can affect it, but I am still catching up / reading up on this

>>107472619
Yes, I did. Should I just go ahead and return? Any suggestions on what GPU I should buy if I want to spend $800 max? I dont need a 5080 as I am getting older and not always gaming but still want to play a few things from the last few years here and there.

>>107472749
The only thing I could find is that the VC supposedly stands for very clean but no idea. They look a bit more barebone for sure compared to those gaming ones. I'd make sure to have gen5 lanes for GPU but otherwise it's up to the features you want.

>>107472905
immediately would be too late
should instead unplug ethernet during the whole process and install drivers from local copy

>>107472922
the 5070 ti is miles better than the 5070 because it has 16 gb vram, the 9070 xt is cheaper and also has 16gb vram and is a good card, but it's not from nvidia
those are the 2 best non-budget cards to get atm

>>107472505
>let's pussy mind control him
that's called being gay

>>107473030
I think the word you're looking for is post-nut clarity

Stop what you are doing. Think about what you can spend $400-$800 on instead of a power hungry and inefficient GPU.

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Brothers I got a pre-built cyberpower pc from walmart for 1699 with a 9800x3d and 5070ti. However I just got these crazy temps on idle I have nothing open i saw it climb to its peak and stay there for a solid minute despite nothing running on it to my knowledge and saw it at 1 percent usage on task manager. I just finished downloading gta 5 and oblivion remastered and the temps were unironically lower while downloading than on idle for some odd reason. But why did it peak so high minutes after downloading 300gb worth of games is my ssd cooked or is it hwinfo thats shit. Its back to normal temps now.

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Why do GPUs keep falling in price?

>>107472922
>>107472998
Also different chip, 5070's chip is literally xx60ti tier if it was from a prior gen (5070ti uses 5080's chip) with inflated model number so they can sell for big bucks and cuck those with bigger budget than 5060ti 16gb but can't get 5070ti.
5070 is a disruptive model in a bad way.

>>107473121
Is it a bare naked NVME? Get a heatsink asap. If it has a heatsink, take it off and see if they left the plastic peel on it.

Usecase for a stronger GPU if you're already on a xx60 class card from the last 4 years? I mean if you're not playing AAA slop or generating AI porn every day, is there really a use case? Is that 2x Blender performance really worth it?

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>>107473121
SSDs get hot baka lol
It's why they have heatsinks these days
Don't worry, just find some heatsinks for them

>>107473162
not really unless you want 500fps or 4K

>>107473162
If you're not having performance issues with what you currently run, then no. Do not upgrade.

>>107473176
>not really unless you want 500fps or 4K
My 60 class card could probably run 4K if it's anything older than 10 years ago. But I don't have a 4K monitor sadly.

>>107473182
I have performance issues but I don't use the software that has them nearly enough to justify an upgrade as far as how I've felt, but that might be because I have also got used to it. Nothing I really can't outright run for the most part, just slow outside of fringe cases.

>>107472800
>suspect
when you figure out the real reason report back

>>107473150
>>107473165
Yeah theres no heatsink on it i think ill get one. Do you have any recommendations?

>>107473257
Trying the step.8 fix here now.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDHelp/comments/1lnxb8o/ultimate_amd_performance_fix_guide_stop_lag_fps/
Gonna use the 25.9.1 drivers and see if it works.

The most annoying shit about this thing is that I don't know if its because windows is trying to override my drivers or if it's just general driver issues.

Is it worth gambling on buying a psu someone has returned?

>>107473395
No.

>>107473395
No.

>>107473162
if you have to ask then you dont need it.

i just through in another 16gigs of ddr4 into my desktop, but i'm getting instability issues(kernel panics). i pulled the old memory kit and just used the new one, seemed to run fine. is it worth trying to lower the speed of my ram? it's two different kits from different manufacturers, same rated speed though.

>>107473480
*threw

>>107473480
Are ALL the specs the same? DDR4 management will drop all sticks to the lowest common denominator, but little individual timings being different might cause the problem. Go into your settings and equal them all out to the lowest numbers.

>>107473480
provide full specs
CPU
motherboard
old kit: speed, timings, voltage, model number
new kit: speed, timings, voltage, model number

you can fix this without lowering the speed

are GPU prices going up because of this memory shit?

>>107472788
first I need a salary which allows me to do anything like that whilst NOT living like a total poorfag

>>107473581
Yes. And supply is going down.

>>107473139
>>107472998
Any suggestions for brand? I am really hung up about this. I used to always go MSI but nowadays with so much I am lost.

Feels like Gigabyte and MSI are the safest if I can afford it?

>>107473581
no shit of course they are, so will anything that uses silicon based memory as a core component of their manufacture, M.2 drives/ssds/gpus. I think only cpus wont be affected because they come from entirely different fabs.

>>107473582
Just do the best you can in the meantime. Watching your spending is so so important. As the prices were about to skyrocket, I bought ram and an NVMe. But I also got a ton of food on the clearance aisle at the store. I mean like a paella mix for $3.50 that I got 2 meals out of. Always look for cheaper options in one area that helps in another area.

>>107473511
>>107473503
they're both 1.2v 2400mhz rated and pc4-19200.
one kit is cl17, the other is cl15

crap kit i got on amazon last year
A-Tech 8GB DDR4 2400 MHz UDIMM PC4-19200 (PC4-2400T) CL17 DIMM Non-ECC Desktop RAM Memory Module

mb is a z170a m7.

dmidecode info

Handle 0x003D, DMI type 17, 40 bytes
Memory Device
    Array Handle: 0x003C
    Error Information Handle: Not Provided
    Total Width: 64 bits
    Data Width: 64 bits
    Size: 8 GB
    Form Factor: DIMM
    Set: None
    Locator: ChannelA-DIMM0
    Bank Locator: BANK 0
    Type: DDR4
    Type Detail: Synchronous
    Speed: 2133 MT/s
    Manufacturer: 01BA
    Serial Number: 14100000
    Asset Tag: 9876543210
    Part Number: 8GBF2X04JEEE36-12-K 
    Rank: 2
    Configured Memory Speed: 2133 MT/s
    Minimum Voltage: Unknown
    Maximum Voltage: Unknown
    Configured Voltage: 1.2 V

Handle 0x003E, DMI type 17, 40 bytes
Memory Device
    Array Handle: 0x003C
    Error Information Handle: Not Provided
    Total Width: 64 bits
    Data Width: 64 bits
    Size: 8 GB
    Form Factor: DIMM
    Set: None
    Locator: ChannelA-DIMM1
    Bank Locator: BANK 1
    Type: DDR4
    Type Detail: Synchronous
    Speed: 2133 MT/s
    Manufacturer: Kingston
    Serial Number: 0536B3F7
    Asset Tag: 9876543210
    Part Number: HP24D4U7S8MBP-8     
    Rank: 1
    Configured Memory Speed: 2133 MT/s
    Minimum Voltage: Unknown
    Maximum Voltage: Unknown
    Configured Voltage: 1.2 V

>>107473628
Memory companies will shift production from GDDR to HBM memory so... yeah. GPU prices will go up.

>>107473643
oh and i did drop the speed from 2400mhz. haven't done a stress test yet

>>107473162
>Is that 2x Blender performance really worth it?
Yes if that's your workflow bottleneck.

>>107473643
K CPU? if you don't have access to VCCSA/VCCIO dropping the speed might be the only option
i can't find full specs for the CL17 kit but you should probably set primaries to 17-17-17 manually
>>107473656
OCCT has a linux version, it's free for 1 hour, use that

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Like... bro...

>>107473718
>should probably set primaries to 17-17-17 manually
thanks, let me reboot and see if i have that option.

looking to build a 1440p machine was thinking of going with a 5600x because it's cheap and ddr5 ram is stupid. I'd put it with a 9060 or 9070

>>107473727
here are the JEDEC standards for DDR4:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR4_SDRAM#JEDEC_standard_DDR4_module
since you're at 1.2 V JEDEC is probably what your kit follows
the CL15 kit is confirmed 15-15-15, so the second kit is probably 17-17-17
all your sticks are capable of 15-15-15 at 2133, if you have to drop the speed to get it stable

>>107473724
We've been talking about this coming for a couple months, anon. Did you take a leave of absence from /g/?

1000hz 720p gaming is real
I repeat 1000hz has been achieved
https://videocardz.com/newz/philips-introduces-evnia-27m2n5500xd-27-inch-monitor-with-1000hz-mode-at-720p-resolution
at an unusable resolution

>>107473829
anything above 120hz is placebo effect

>>107473829
since oled can potentially be used for 2k hz monitors even with todays tech I wonder what exactly is hindering high res adoption of high hz
the cables can do insanely high output with dsc

some scaler chips cant handle it?

>>107473640
>Watching your spending is so so important.
sure but kind of pointless when you not taking care of the lowest hanging fruit
for example, me saving money could easily be beaten by just getting a part time job and that would nullify any savings I can do with abysmal income currently

>>107473852
>some scaler chips cant handle it?
that and manufacturers sandbagging the evolution and giving tvs +20hz a year instead of going 120hz to 240hz obviously

>>107473770
i didn't have any settings i could modify other than the clock speed, so i'll leave it at 2133mhz. seems to be running stable when stressing the memory compiling. thanks for the info.

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>>107473963
your board should have it
but idk what you can and can't do on LGA 1151 with a non-K chip
>seems to be running stable when stressing the memory compiling
it's probably fine
but issues can show up after the system has been running for a few hours
sadly most of the good memory test programs are exclusive to windows
and you have to pay if you want to run OCCT for >1 hour

I wanted to wait for AM6 or whatever to be a thing before upgrading my mobo and cpu, is it worth waiting for that or should I just go for AM5?
With ram prices going nuts and the fact Ill have to get ram, a new cpu and a whole ass board, im not sure anymore

>>107474080
dont upgrade if you don't need it, you're already late on buying ram

>>107472182
for corsair part numbers the C30 at the end means AMD, Z30 is intel

Alright, Im convinced to go from Intel to AMD

How the fuck do I educate myself? I already pulled the trigger on RAM since its spiking

What do I do to get myself up to speed so I dont buy stupidly? I already canceled an Intel 14700K order due to hearing how much power it uses and the degration.

This is the only PC part Ive bought so far:
Corsair Vengeance RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
CMH64GX5M2B6000Z30

>>107473129
pc building has become tough when a crucial component (ram) becomes unattainable, why would I buy the rest of the pc if I wont boot it until 2027 when the ram prices go down

>>107474132
do you need the pc right now?

>>107474097
im worried itll die on me soon as ive already had it for a while now
Knowing my luck itll drop dead at the peak of pricing

>>107473829
WAKE ME UP WHEN WE GET TO HOLY GRAIL 1200HZ

>>107474162
My 980ti died on me in the height of the crypto scam. I hadn't paid attention to prices and was shocked when a used 980ti cost as much as I paid new years ago.

>>107474157
Yes, my PC is 10 years old. Im a 40 year old boomer who has only used Intel his whole life and moved careers from computers to HVAC so I am not up to speed as I used to be

Thats why I was so hesisant going to AMD CPU because old dog new tricks

I will probably stick with Nvidia GPU

>Build your pc around your monitor and target resolution/fps

lol i didn't do that

i didn't even buy a new monitor

>5k 27" 240hz qd oled next year
no point, the 5090 can't even do 4k 240hz (224fps) yet with dlss performance in most games. setting your game to dlss ultra performance on a 5k monitor would be a complete waste

>>107474188
lol AMD is for the zoomers gramps

you are gonna shit yourself when you see those AMD boot times and RAM training and Ryzen needing 300W just to power on every boot like it's getting defrib'd

>>107474216
just turn on frame gen the 5090 has that

>>107474188
get an x3d cpu, 7800x3d or 9800x3d or wait a few months and get the 9850x3d

>>107474219
the real terrible part of amd systems is usb
you will hear random disconnects/reconnects on your am5 system when gaming or under any load
sometimes your usb devices won't work on a cold boot

>>107474229
that's already with 4x fg

I remember buying a 4k monitor back with my 1660 build when I got my first job out of college. What a buffoon I was.

>>107474231
>>107474219
Can I still use an Nvidia GPU on an AMD CPU system without issues?

This thread is hard to follow for honesty and Im such a sucker

>>107474262
No that creates mustard gas, pair amd + amd for mmo gear set bonus