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Looking to make a pc purely for video editing on like Vegas pro, do I even need a gpu? Im looking around a 400-500$ range usd
Buy a 5090 while you can. They are as cheap as they will ever get.
Why do you guys spend $2000+ on your pcs but can’t even afford to pay devs properly.Literally looking like the girls who have LV bags but not a hundred in their wallets
>>107462474devs DO NOT receive any money from your purchases. They're all salaried employees most of the time and all your money goes straight to the shareholders and the CEO
>>107462401I agree with you re 5090 prices. but the dies are so maxed out the only way they're making bigger enthusiast (xx80) and flagship (xx90) cards is by introducing water cooled FEs. They have to be considering it at this point given it's the only way to manage heat as process shrinks are getting more difficult.
>>107462405Intel iGPUs might be okay for 1080p, but dGPU is recommended for 4K video editing (real-time effects rendering, hardware encoder to export final video render).
>>107462474One of the reasons I spent $2000 on my PC was to be able to circumvent expensive software sales on other platforms.
>>107462474>pay devs properlywhy when they can't code properly
>>107462474>he thinks wuchang devs deserve a single cent for making a 5090 struggle to run at 60fps
>>107462556For server they are moving towards full LC racks so it might happen
i dont think my next build is gonna be able to live up to the godliness of my current build. built jan 2015 right before crypto and covid fucked the market, right when the canadian dollar was on par with the USD. $1700 CDN and still just as fast today as the day I built it. Have such a backlog of steam games I haven't even been thinking about upgrading. Gonna run this mother into the ground.- i7 4790k- GTX970 (died 3 years ago, got a used 1070)- 256GB samsung 850 evo + 500GB sandisk ssd- asus z97k- 16GB DDR3 @ 1600mhzgot my monies worth indeed.
So how are newer model 5090s doing in terms of burnt wires?also, anyone know when the Ampinel will launch and where to order it?
This situation has me contemplating life choices and gotten me tiredI will not buy anything and live minimalist and stop caring for a while Maybe have sex insteadI don't even know who I am as a person anymoreI wasn't gonna buy anything anyway though would IDo I even play stuff? Idk
>>107459804assassin iv
wow i finally get what is meant by "true black," and contrast with OLED now that I look at it side by side versus standard LED IPS monitor. i'm happy with the upgrade
Is 4K@120 enough? I'm not really looking for all out specs here
>heard memory supply is fucked>I have lots of memory, ill sell some shit and put the money elsewhere>gpu alone is up $1000 from when I bought it a year ago
>>107462989Nothing but TV's have that spec
Will DDR4 prices ever go back down or am I just stuck paying the procrastination tax
I haven't built a PC in like 5 years and I'm worried I might have to upgrade but the ram situation will fuck me in the ass.Is there a good/reliable RAM I can buy at a somewhat affordable price right now before it gets any higher. So that in the event I do want/need to upgrade in the next few years I at least don't have to worry about RAM prices and have some ready
>>107462954I'm happy for you. Check for firmware updates on the official support page.
>>107463043NoYour best option is some 32GB DDR5 kit that costs $250-400 now when it cost $80 a month ago it's just deciding how deep you want the dick in your ass
>>107463043BUT if you must choose a kit a good reliable kit is the Kingston Fury Beast DDR5-6000cl30 XMP/EXPO, Hynix A-dieGood luck, it won't be a reasonable price any more, if it's even in stock that is
>>107463101is cheaper stuff just unusable dog shit now? like <32GB, or DDR3 or 4
>>107463042the prices will go down when the AI bubble pops in a year and the whole world economy crashes
>>107463132DDR4 has also gone up stupid prices where once an old $50 kit now sells for $200. If when you want to upgrade to a newer platform like AM5 is DDR5 only. Intel 12th-14th gen can use DDR4 or DDR5 but intel also raised the prices of those generations. I would say under 32GB is unusable but other people might get away with it. I wouldn't call buying 16GB a good idea especially going forward.
Other thread I posted:Should I just buy RAM (ddr5) before I buy my mobo before I get even more fucked?Is that wise?Yes I'm Intel
Fuck armory crate
>>107463132Or I guess potentially an even better question would be. If I did end up having to upgrade my PC, would I also just be able to use whatever 16GB or so I have in my current PC in the new one and at least have a functioning PC even if I'm not using it to its full potential (like running the 60fps 1080p I do now) until the ram prices go back down and I can upgrade that component properly?
>>107462348>230 for an AIOkek
>>107463043Buy RAM and GPU NOW. Just buy it all now.
>>107463239Can you help >>107463187So just buy any ram kit CL30-36 2X16/24 from a decent brand?? Even before you decide on a mobo??
I was on my last build for 9 years. It definitely could have made it to 10 but the last couple it was limiting me. I was gonna wait for that supposed super series which should have been out by now but after crypto crisis, pandemic, crypto again, and now AI, all the while having shitty fake MSRPs, paper launches too it was time to buy. That's too many happenings for 5 years. I don't know what the next one will be but it will definitely happen immediately after this one.
>>107463282Well you can always get an XMP/EXPO rated kit, those will work on AMD or Intel
im quite annoyed because the RAM i got for my sisters desktop build (32gb corsair dominator ddr5 @7000) is now impossible to get in the US outside of ebay scalpers making an upgrade to 64gb of RAM like i intended when i buyded the prebuilt for her infeasable is it still ok to mix/match ram speeds or is that a no go for ddr5? the 32gb sticks the prebuilt came with are at 5400mhz, or should i just pull the slower sticks and put them in a closet?
>>107463293What about this? Yeah I know I'm getting fucked but thankfully I got a Christmas bonus coming my way and I can afford it
approximately how much in USD would a mid-high end system cost right now? I need to know if I have the budget for it or not
>>107463327about 2 grand will get you in that high tier region if youre prudent
>>107463305It's fine but... do you really need 64gb? Also it's too expensive (even in the current conditions).Anyway yes you can basically just buy anything, there are compatibility lists but they don't mean much unless you are buying something really crazy.
>>107462954I dont understand whats there to getyou look at ips monitor and it literally glowsa full black picture illuminates the environment
>>107463301Just use 2 memory sticks for DDR5.Say goodbye to XMP/EXPO if you try to populate all for DDR5 memory slots.You will need to manually OC 4x DDR5 setups and spend a few days stability testing the system.
>>107463373yeah aint nobody got time for all that shit lol quite annoying, i miss the days of just gutting old pcs and frankensteining them together without stability issues
I got a build with a 5070ti and 9800x3d but the msi utility installer is asking me to download the latest amd graphics driver do I have to install it to get better performance or is it pointless? Also I'm able to hear things but its asking to download realtek drivers too do I need it or do the drivers make things sound better when playing games or is it bloatware?
>>107463419your cpu has intergrated gpu but you will never use it so drivers dont matterI dont know what realtek is meant to accomplishI assume its some sort of spyware
>>107463187>>107463305if you have to, buy NOW before those kits are eternally OOS and marked up even higher for those short moments they get restocked
I need a reality check for GPU pricing at every tier second hand
>>1074624444090s used to go for 1800, didnt know that would be their lowest point
Why do I need to overclock or XMO? Wouldn’t that kill my components?
Is a 3090 really worth $150 more than a 5070 just for the VRAM?
>>107463419it's bloatware turn that shit off in the bios too
>>107463561I saw them sitting at 1600.
>>107463561When you remember that the buyers are 90% LLM people with money to spare it all makes sense
>>107462348Are Gigabyte 50 series cards still risky or did they figure out most of those issues now that it's been a few months?Just got an RTX 5080 windforce 16 gb "sff" for $975 with a flash deal on Amazon. Not sure if it's a good luck thing or there's a reason the gigabyte ones can be had at/below MSRP.
>>107463653there's the odd game specific bug here or there but its 98% fixed. they even brought back 32bit physx acceleration this week
48GB of RAM for $400 or 64GB for $700?Trying to prepare for a next-to-worst-case scenario of RAM not being reasonably priced or available for 2-3 years.
>>107462474> Why do you guys spend $2000+ on your pcs but can’t even afford to pay devs properly.Brother, the recommended gpus for playing Silent Hill f at 1080p/60fps without upscaling are the Rx 6800xt and the RTX 3080. They managed to fuck up so bad you need a top 5% of steam hardware survey PC to play their single player game at 60fps in 1080p. Getting paid minimum wage would be too much for how little effort they put into optimization.
>>10746371148gb 6000cl30 since it clocks up to 8400mhz which may benefit zen6/7 in the future.
>>107463653I've had no problem with mine. People are just retarded here.
>>107463741It's 48GB 7600CL36 and manufacturer-guaranteed M-die. So it's definitely the better deal, right?
>>107463764yeah 24gbit m-die does 6000cl30/32 just fine
>>107463764what's the speed rating of the 64gb kit?
>>107463499>>107463348Thanks, I went ahead and bought itAnd for the guy asking about why I'm going for 64gb... There's literally no other Corsair ram available on Amazon other than those kits, 2x16/2x24 are OOS until Feb (lmao) and I do not fucking trust Newegg anymorePlus I'm around Denver so they for some stupid reason prioritize my returns/RMAs which is a huge bitch compared to NeweggThat or I drive 40 minutes to Microcenter in Centennial and hope they have stoco because no one fucking answers the phone at that store
>>107463764$400 for a good H24M bin isn't bad at all right nowjust do it because it's only gonna get worse
>Still waiting on a good 4090 for myself>Now want a nice SSD because mine is filling up>Just in time for AI niggers to fuck with those prices tooI hate these faggots so much. I don't care if it would cause mass impoverishment, I want the bubble to pop.
>>1074638446000CL30
>>107463757>>107463706Thank you for reassuring me. I'm upgrading from a 3080 and I'm pretty excited for it. Probably will chuck the 3080 into the wife's gaming PC and then either sell or keep her 3070 ti as an "oh shit, everything broke" backup.
>>107463851Even if you drove there would be fuck all in stock anyway and it'll cost the same
>>107463870that 64gb kit would be the best choice for zen4/zen5 but being dual rank, will fall off after 7000mhz.if zen6 sweetspots at 7200mhz or higher, the single rank 48gb m-die kit would age better than the dual rank 64gb a-die kit
It's like devs are in love with motion blur even more than they were 10 years ago. I get why they used it then but why are they all using so much now. At least I can turn it off.
>>107463957Hide the stuttering from UE5 dogshit/low optimised games
>>107463305Andrew, I paid $220 for that ram just a few months ago.
>>107462348> be me in april> build pc> 2x16GB DDR5 ram because budget got too low> "doesn't matter, I'll just buy the other 2x slots at the end of the year! With black Friday, cyber Monday, christmas and new years, there is bound to be some amazing sales for cheap"> fast forward to today> get fuckedAh well, at least I bought the first 32gb at the right time...
>>1074640574x ddr5 has always been a bad idea anon
>>107464025I paid the price for the fucking wait gameThankfully I played the real estate game well and tripled my property value when I sold it last year and movedIt stings but I can afford it and I cannot wait out this 9 year PC anymoreI waited since COVID due to supply chain, buttcoin, then Intel microcode bullshitThe last thought in my mind was RAM going to get butt fucked
>>107464103Really? How so? It may not be as powerful as 2x32gb because dual channeling but it's still an improvement, no? Not like I need perfectly utilized 64GB of ddr5 ram, I barely get up to 20gb already
>get small static shock on ceiling fan>pc disconnects from tvWtf
>>107462348>case is literally glowing like lavathose temps must be off the charts
Do you guys think spending more shekels for something better than a 5080 SFF is worth it?
>>1074642355080 has a lot of OC headroom so its worth it if you can get a cooler and quieter model for less than $100 more
Just bought a 9070 XT to swap out with the 5 year launch 3080 like you guys told me to. I'll sell the 3080 for $200-$250 (or whatever it's worth). I also learned my lesson of never using a Nvidia GPU on Linux ever again after this last year, glad to be going full AMD now. One more thing, what the most retard friendly air cooler installation I can use to replace the stock AMD cooler here. The two times I've needed to install it (swapping out an old 3700x) was a pain and I constantly thought I was doing something wrong and about the break something when I wasn't.
>>107464103How so anon? I thought 16gig is 1rank, so no problem i assume. Was planning for a similar setup
Im kinda being fatigued by ram posts but at the same time recommending pc builds has the "sure heres a build where 200 extra goes to extortionist ram manufacturers who dont feel like increasing production for hilarious reasons" factor going on which encourages reccing people to wait except waiting has no clear path to lower prices.
they couldve done this all along for the 12th gen cpus??? now its already too late, ddr4 memory controllers have been removed with core ultra cpushttps://videocardz.com/newz/asrock-puts-extra-ddr4-slots-to-its-ddr5-h610m-combo-motherboardthey forced you to buy two motherboards if you want to switch to ddr5 on the same gen lmaoo
>>107464324i can't imagine doing that wouldnt massively reduce max stable ddr5 speeds""up to"" ddr4-2666mhz should tell you how confident they are in guaranteeing memory stability on that board
>>107464324asrock just throwing shit at at walls now since nobody (besides youtubers who get them for free) will touch any of their AM5 boards
>>107464260>cooler and quieter model for less than $100 moreBongistan prices are fucked, $130 extra barely gets you a Palit or fucking Ventus kek. It's +$267 bongs equivalent for something decent (Gigabyte Gaming OC) or fucking +$534 for something like a Suprim.A lot extra for mainly cooling and fan noise.>>107464294>what the most retard friendly air cooler installation I can useThey're all exactly the same
I dont know what CPU cooler to get for my build>ryzen 9 9900x>5070ti>fractal north mid tower caseI wanna be able to play games on high settings and I also do gamedev using Unreal engine.I dont wanna have problems with temps, I also wanna be able to see my temps at a glance on a dedicated display. I was planning to buy a NZXT Kraken 240 with some Lian li case fans but my friend urged me to consider an air cooler instead which seems reasonable, he recommended Noctua, but that would probably mean I dont get the dedicated display I want.What do you recommend? Anyone have a similar build to mine? Would like to keep it under 200 USD if possible
>>107464497Id get a water cooler to have less noise from fan ramp up during workloads
>>107464294Noctua air coolers have the best mounting mechanism, but clearly overpriced.be Quiet Pure Rock Pro or Scythe Mugen 6 Dual Fan are $50 coolers with decent fans.https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RN62FT/be-quiet-pure-rock-pro-3-596-cfm-cpu-cooler-bk041https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rV9wrH/scythe-mugen-6-dual-fan-6029-cfm-cpu-cooler-scmg-6000dbeBoth are overkill for a 5700X3D.Scythe Kotetsu Mk 3 if you want something cheap & decenthttps://pcpartpicker.com/product/rw7scf/scythe-kotetsu-mark-3-6762-cfm-cpu-cooler-scktt-3000I am not recommending Thermalrights because ppl complain about their fan noise.
>>107464318I just want to know what people are looking forward to playing that has them scrambling to upgrade. I don't see anything worthwhile coming out.Also, I guess turning the graphics to low or playing at a lower resolution isn't an option for people anymore?
>>107464497You could get one of the Thermalright variants with the displays.https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XNjv6h/thermalright-phantom-spirit-120-digital-evo-69-cfm-cpu-cooler-phantom-spirit-120-digital-evo>>107464524Well for me it's that it's been 6 years since my previous PC, I don't want to make it 8 or 9. Luckily I got in before the ram prices went too crazy ($150 32gb).
>>107464505Hmm ok. Reviews say the NZXT Kraken 240 can get loud too, is there one you recommend? Going through the OP list rn
>>107464497I advise you to get an AIO if you're expecting to use all those 12 CPU cores regularly at high loads.
>>107464539I assume theres a lot of chink options that may or may not have review on gamers nexus
>>107463622I wouldn't buy any used 3090. If you need the 24GB VRAM for local AI, pay the 3090 Ti premium.The transients from just running Stable Diffusion models are enough to kill the 3090's DrMOS IC. Happened to a frogposter in /pcbg/, and he bought a 4090 afterwards.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N304NKFrmvk
>>107464497tryx panorama
>>107464627I was admiring that one earlier but the price is too high, maybe during a sale>>107464548Arctic Freeze 3 pro for $90 USD might be the winrar, I would just have to get a display for the temps
Are the hp minipcs any good? Thinking of getting the 705 g5 dm for emulation and old games, but im not sure if they are reliable. It comes with a 3400GE and 16 gb ram, ive read that it may throttle due to the psu being only 65W
>>107464680Arctic Liquid Freezers are just okay with cooling Ryzen CPUs; the cold plate isn't optimized for them.Not a bad choice, just something to be aware of.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6fYxyl4KBg
>>107464616MPS controllers are the real good shitMy 3080 from launch month is still running strong over 5 years later and I have another 3090 that I run at the max 480W from 2022 that's still doing good
>>107462348i'm afraid of setting my rgb to one color because rgb on fans die very quickly and using solid colors is a good way to kill them quickly.
>>107463305>almost 3x the price I paid for 96GB in AugustXD
If for now and for a long time, ddr5 RAM, HDD, SSD, GPU prices are high, anything made to go with that ram, will drop prices soon, as the market isn't able to sell them.is it ok to expect cheaper Motherboards, CPUs, PSUs, chassis, GaYmig keyboards and mouses, GAYgb fans and accessories etc.?
>>107464818yes, for a short while until they cut production of those parts
>>107464057>populating all 4 slotsusing more than 2 sticks of ram will drastically reduce your ram speeds especially on DDR5
>Have a deepcool AIO with screen cause not living in a Superpower fighting with Superpower>Check languages>No Chinese support even though Deepcool is in ChinaWeishenme?This seems very unpatriotic. I think someone needs a visit.
>>107464818you'd think so but probably not: https://overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/amd-price-increases-confirmed-for-midnight-tonight/
I need a new machine for coding with Visual Studio, and I'm trying to get into some 3d stuff with blender, and some game making with godot.I don't play AAA or new games.I live in Brazil.I am pretty out of the loop when it comes to building a pc these days, what do you guys think of this build?how's this build?https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4yMxyWCPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core ProcessorCPU Cooler: Gigabyte GAMING 360 61.61 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler Motherboard: Gigabyte B650M GAMING WIFI6E Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard Memory: Kingston FURY Beast RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory Storage: Kingston Fury Renegade 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive Video Card: MSI SHADOW 2X OC GeForce RTX 5070 12 GB Video Card Case: Corsair 480T ATX Mid Tower Case Power Supply: MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
>ryzen 5 1600 with a gtx 1060Aside from skyrocketing RAM prices, would it be expensive to build a significant upgrade over this?I don't need anything top of the line, but something better and affordable if possible. Very out of the loop on parts and shit since I built this years ago but I just want to get a feel for what I'm looking at before I go back into components research mode and whatnot
>>107464958get a 5800X3D
>>107464944you typically get a 16 core cpu for productivity tasks, x3d doesnt help you much outside of gaming this month you'll pay double for the ram but 3d apps can require a lot depending on the scenemay as well get 4tb nvmeId go for 16gb vram gpub850 mobos are standard these days and microatx makes little sense
>>107464944You might not need an X3D for what you are doing, so you could get a 9700x or 9900x. Or 9950x even.Dunno why you want to get such a budget motherboard, I know it's Brazil so everything is insanely expensive but that doesn't seem to be an issue for any of the other parts. It's not even particularly cheap (on US Amazon at least).Everything else looks fine I think.
>>107464971and what are some good GPU option(s)?
>>107464973>you typically get a 16 core cpu for productivity tasks, x3d doesnt help you much outside of gamingany recommendations in the same price range?>may as well get 4tb nvmeI'm already bursting my budget, I wanted to spend only 10k on it, but it's already close to 13k.>>107465002>Dunno why you want to get such a budget motherboardI didn't think of it as budget, actually went for a pricier one, but really I just checked the ones with wi-fi 6e and bluetooth I forgot to put it in, but my budget was at most 14k reais
>>1074650807900x has usually hovered in the lead for price perf for productivity9900, 9950 dont have significant productivity increase while costing more
Lian li o11 compact Anon here.I looked at the mini version that was suggested and it's too small for my liking.Forgot to mention I have a 9800x3d and a Thermal right Phantom spirit already.Any fans you guys can recommend that are cheap?Or an entirely different case all together?I do need the power buttons etc. Infront.
>>107464944You don't need X3D. Just one of the 8, 12, or 16 core Ryzen 9000 CPUs, depending on pricing. Keep in mind you'll be running Blender on GPU
>>1074651099000 series in general focusses on using less power. If you put an OC 9000 series part v a an OC 7000 part the 9000 part will preform 20% better still but at standard clocks the 9000 series part will just do 2% faster while suing less power and generating less heat.
>>107464958You can try to find a good price on one of the Zen3 X3D chips like the 5700X3D, but not sure they're available new anymore. GPU would be 5070 or 5070 Ti if you have the budget. Keep in mind that if your monitor is trash, you'll need to upgrade that alongside the GPU
>>107464944Also consider the 5060 Ti 16 GB. What you lose in raw rendering speed you gain in memory capacity. It's a tradeoff, depends on how large your projects are.
How did I do, /pcbg/?
>>107465330Thanks. Idk if my monitor is trash or not (probably is), it gets the job done but its only 60hz, but I only play at 60fps right now anyways
>>107465365What's your total upgrade budget?
is 600 watts PSU enough for this build or is it time to finally get a new one? This one's been kicking since 2016.Ryzen 9800X3DRTX 5070TI32GB DDR5 RAMATX MOBO I'm currently running a 4070 and looking to upgrade that, Newegg said 600-699 was recommended for both the 4070 and 5070TI
>>107465450Pretty sure nvidia recommend atleast 750w
>>107465450A bit too low I think. I'd want at least 750, preferably 850.
>>107465379Not really sure honestly, its kind of flexible? But its dependent on what I feel like I'd be getting. Comfortably in the $1000-1500 USD rangeI'm not opposed to trying to budget more ($2000, maybe a bit more) if its a legit long term (more futureproof) machine. I really hate the whole PC upgrade process so I just want something I can comfily run that can keep up with hardware demands a bit better, I don't even need crazy resolution and fps.I don't even want to upgrade but with the rising component prices I figure It'd be smart to be prepared in case something breaks since I've had this for 5+ years now. My fear is that something bad happens in 1-2 years while prices are sky high and I'm forced to replace my PC I end up paying like $2500 for what would have been a placeholder $1200 machine, when I could have just spend $1000-200 on something really good now and not have to worry about the next 5+ years.In a perfect world I'd just stick with my current PC for another 3+ years when (hopefully) the prices of things normalize and I can get a quality upgrade worked out then.
>>107465350>windows 11shouda redeemed the goyforce
>>107465450it should work finethough you should look for an atx3.1 psu so you have a good, direct connection between the psu and gpu and not have to rely on the crap 12vhpwr adapter
>>107465350why do people use windows 10 21h2?
>>107465571>windows 11It's Win 10.>>107465582It's an old image I have on my flash drive. I've been installing it on all of my PCs for ages. Idk why it's still 21h2, I updooted the OS right after I finished setting my PC up.
>>107459429>lol lmao evenI own both the 9070XT (Asus Tuf) and the 7900XTX (gigabyte gaming OC) the XTX card is faster and anybody who tells you otherwise is coping extremely hard
>>107465928>My upscaling my raytracingThe 9070XT sucks at native raster they also gimped its memory bus and gave it 16gb's of ram
>>107465941Native raster stopped mattering after 2020
>>107465548I would avoid FOMO purchasing. If you don't need it, don't buy.5070 12 GB - $525AOC Q27G3XMN - $260R5 5600 - $135You can get an OLED monitor and a 5070 Ti if you want to spend more of your budget, but anything more than a 5070 12 GB really needs a better CPU, probably not worth the hassle and cost of moving to AM5 over just dropping in a 5600 on your current board (update BIOS before removing old CPU).
>>107466103>Q27G3XMNPeak HDR capable mini LED. It's insane how good it is (with some tweaks).
>missed out on the $600-$700 4070 Ti Supers now that the 4080's are goneFUCKWHAT DO I BUY
>>107466216rx9070
>>107466225need cuda
>>1074663095060ti 16gb
>>107466321Might as well resell the 3060 ti I have then to ger at least half of the cost covered ignoring I paid 4x as much for it two years ago
>>107465350Why is my CPU boosting so hard when idle and should I turn it off?
>finally find an msrp 5070 in europe second hand>the photo shows the 12vhpwr connector not fully inserted
>>107466336welcome smd ryzen
>>107466359This is a (comparable) AMD CPU too >>107465350
>>107466336your ram timings are way too loose
>>107466350the 5070 draws so little power compared to a 4090 or 5090 it doesn't really matter
4090 performance
>3 fan 5070 ti for $800 in eurolandWorth the price premium over the 5070? Or do I spend more on a 4080 while I can?
I had a weird issue with an older DDR5 set of mine where one of the DIMM slots would turn off randomly following a hard crash. The only way to get windows to recognize it again was to turn the computer off completely. Anyways, fast forward a year later and a years worth of memory compatibility updates for my motherboard, I've yet to experience any crashes in windows after running memory diagnostic and messing with it for a day. Do you guys think it's safe to sale it without me scamming the buyer? I'm gonna be selling in-person, so there will be no refunds. CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 64GB CL30 (2x16GB)
>GPU prices are lower than I expected>RAM prices are getting stupid>Stuck on AM4 (5900X)What do for a computer upgrade? Maybe get a 9070XT? Is it even worth it if I already have a 4070S?
>>107466419more like 3090 performance
The 50 series is so shit, 16GB of VRAM but NO FUCKING BANDWIDTH WHATSOEVER
>>107466463You prob wont be thinking about the saved euros 5 years from now when you're gamering
>>107466486Also spending flagsgip prices ($500-$650) on low end to low midrange $750-$900) is easy to forget now
>>107466494I'll be too old for gaming by then when I've been focused on 3dcg and now ayy eye since foreverThe real world performance of these cards matter to me in eastern europe
>>107466504so its not for work or gaming but random hobby shit like 3dcg and AI porn?get the card with most vram
>>1074664635070ti and 4080 are very similar and trades blows depending on the game
>>107462348I need some help bros i want to build a pc as future proof as possible.>Target res: 4k >Use case: mainly gaming, some video renderingGpu: zotac 5070 ti 16gb >( won this on a contest so need a cpu that matches this and the future-proofing)The gpu is the only part i have for now, if u guys could help with other parts as well i would appreciate it>budget 800 usd (250k huf)>Country: HungaryThanks bozos
>>107466478Hold on on that note, would a 5900X bottleneck a 9070xt? I play on 1440p. I'm just worried about GPUs going up in price too for whatever reason
>>107466548you'll need to check out local stores for 6000 cl36 32gb ddr5 ram, its expensive, maybe some stores bundle them to mobos? cl30 is preferably but costs like 50% more.aliexpress has some cheap tray cpus without warranty which is a way to save money on x3d options. You need x3d for future proofing and 9800x3d can be like 450€ locally and 7800x3d supply is questionable. Both will be fine for gaming in the future.B850 mobo is standardthermalright has cheap cpu coolersfractal meshify 3 case is good for airflow2tb nvme ssd, no need to get pcie 5. 750-850w atx 3.1 psu will come with a cable that fits the gpu without issues
>>107466518>get the card with most vramThat would be the 3090 at $670-$715 at the cheapest, VRAM is pretty much the only thing it has going for it given it is a good deal slower in Blender Optix rendering, at least it won't run out of memory (assuming it doesn't die first)Decisions decisions
>>107466381That's because I had to use the standard safe preset with my old RAM kit. If I turned XMP on, my system would become extremely unstable. Anyway, XMP with 30 36 36 80 seems to work fine and my system feels much snapper now, too.
>>107466504>>107466518should be noted the 4080 will beat a 5070 ti every time in blender by almost a thousand points I think because it has 2000-3000 more shaders
>>107466548>Target res: 4k>Use case: mainly gaming, some video rendering285K with 9000MT/s+ memory. Don't listen to this retard >>107466596 AMD's dogshit 8 cores are worse at 4K and much less future proof because of the low core count and the 9800X3D costs just as much as the 24 core 285K and is much slower at everything. There is only one answer to your question and it should be straight forward from anyone who knows what they're talking about. The answer is 285K with the fastest memory you can run.
>>10746661770 series not being able to beat previous gen 80 series is crazy
>>107466618
>>107466643>AMD UnboxedFucking yawn. Now post rendering benchmarks. You won't be able to cherry pick those or find a tard who intentionally handicapped the system from the brand which they don't like because it gets lower viewership and has less of a cult following. You are literally recommending an 8 core processor to someone who asked for "future proof" and said they do highly threaded tasks. You are a dickhead misleading someone intentionally into buying the inferior product because you think this is some kind of team sport.
I've been using an old Piledriver Opteron machine for a few years. Works fine for what I do otherwise but the single thread performance is pretty bad. I got offered a deal on a dual Epyc 7282 and Supermicro motherboard. Good upgrade or not? On paper it seems to be, although I probably don't need that many cores.
>>107464884>using more than 2 sticks of ram will drastically reduce your ram speeds especially on DDR5Not how it works.Using 4 sticks will reduce maximum speed cap of motherboard/cpu but also using 4 sticks is FASTER than using 2 single rank sticks at the same frequency and timings.
Is this worth it or should I build my own PC?or should I wait? I can wait.
>>107466704it only helps in geekbench. ddr5 already has sub-channels and doubled banks & burst length which reduces the benefit of dual rank drasticallyalso 2x32gb dual rank setups are superior in every way
>>107466670>gaming quality index>(trademark)>cl40 ram
>>107466709Grossly overpriced. Black Friday had some 285 (non-K but assuming you won't be overclocking anyway if you need someone to build it for you) liquid cooled + 5080 + 32GB DDR5 + 1TB SSD + 1000W Platinum PSU for around $2300 which I thought was reasonable. It was Alienware Aurora ACT1250. If you can't find a deal like that maybe build one.
>>107466709I've seen 285k + 5080 systems for a lot less than that.>>107466670That appears to be Techspot, not Hardware Unboxed. Techpowerup also shows the 9800x3d as being faster than the 285k in 4k gaming. Keep in mind the 9800x3d is also cheaper than the 285k. POW!
POW!
>>107466719Gaming Quality Index is just a way of showing the difference between the average and the lows. You want your lows to be closer to your average for it to not be a stuttery mess. 285K still clears in the averages and lows at 4K.>>cl40 ramI take it you don't understand ANYTHING about memory overclocking if that's what you point out. The AMD systems are equally tuned to the max. >Keep in mind the 9800x3d is also cheaper than the 285k. POW!285K regularly on sale for $429.99 now but the 265K also exists at $259.99 with just 4 fewer E cores. POW! Shits on Ryzen slop POW!
So taking the vram pill is meta right now, especially as a creator?
>>107466741Black Friday didn't have any good deals like that. The Alienware Aurora ACT1250 you mentioned is available but it has a 5070 for a similar price.>>107466743I didn't manage to find anything cheaper with a 5080, there are cheaper options with a 5070/ti but not a 5080 sadly.So build after all?
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/24JD6QThoughts on this build? Especially choices of power supply and case, I don't really have a clue about those. Is it overkill of I'm planning to game at 1440p, or is it worth it purely for the future-proofing which is a big concern for me. Budget is £2000.
>>107466709>>107466784Is that Canadian dollars or something?
>>107466784>I didn't manage to find anything cheaper with a 5080, there are cheaper options with a 5070/ti but not a 5080 sadly.Newegg had some a couple of days ago but seems like they are sold out now.https://www.newegg.com/msi-gaming-desktop-pc-geforce-rtx-5080-intel-core-ultra-9-285k-64gb-ddr5-2tb-ssd-aegis-r2-ai-b2nvv9-1411us-black/p/N82E16883151775>So build after all?I'm pretty sure you can build that system for less than $3500 at least.
>>107466801If you're not an esports pro playing below 1080p AMD is always the wrong choice at 1440p because it will blow outside of games with such a low core count and slow single core speed, the opposite of future proof and very overpriced.
>>107466801I got that moboits a bit retarded with how the ssds are under 1 massive plate that has some thermal paste slapped on it for all of them
>>107466802It's dollars dollars but converted from PLN since I'm from a third world country where everything is more expensive because we earn way less money than anyone else. Yes you heard it right.>>107466806That's nice but refurbished. Sadly there are no such deals where I live. Also for some reason it's hard to get the MSI Aegis as well even though MSI has official distribution here.
>>107466801why peerless assassin instead of phantom spirit? I thoughts the PS was better in some way
>>107466809So is that the processor or the GPU, or both? I thought AMD GPUs were better at mid range than Nvidea? >>107466812Is there a better B850 mono you'd recommend or is it specifically that model?
>>107466834I have no idea, of PS is supposed to be a better case then I'll go for that. Has to be good for air cooling though.
What's the best budget 1080p displayport monitor with an icc profile on tftcentral? I've just been getting by with this ancient Dell IPS and I just want a second monitor but my GPU only has one HDMI port.
>>107466841The CPU. The 9800X3D is overpriced and not what you even need for a 1440p gaming rig and it won't last as long as the high core count Intel options such as the 265K. The 9070XT is great for gaming for the right price otherwise 5070Ti for the software and compatibility.
>>107466841There are definitely better ones but that one is pretty good for the price.>>107466843The phantom spirit is a newer and slightly better variation of the peerless assassin. But it's not worth paying too much of a premium for it.>>107466801Power supply is decent, you could spend a little more for a corsair rm750x but it doesn't really matter. Case is good.
>>107466852Okay got it, thank you. I'll stick with the GPU choice then.
>>107466806I actually managed to find something cheaper while looking for MSI. Pic related for about 2500$Worth it? Poland gets raped hard on all electronic prices.
>>107466871Hard to say without knowing what you would pay for the parts individually. Specifically the CPU, GPU, RAM. It might be worth it.
>>107466893I would pay more or less the same or maybe even more due to cucked RAM prices from the looks of it. It's a 265K rather than 285K but 1000$ less.
>>107466871>DDR5, 4800>1 stickI'm a little leery of what actual memory they're running. It would run like shit in that config.
>>107466465Sounds like a motherboard issue.
>>107466741I am planning to oc, i just wanted to hear people's input first.
>>107466912Ah fuck I haven't noticed that.
Why is CL30 RAM so much more expensive than CL32/36? Isn't it only 1-2% faster?
>>107466871Obviously, the RAM is bad.But, it's still RAM, and whilst it might be a couple FPS hit, you can fix it later.
>>107466963Now that I'm looking into it more in depth it seems like it will be either the same or slightly more if I build myself. It's been so long since I've built a PC... During GTX970 times...
>>107466855Great feedback, thanks. I'll have a think about the case, mobo and PSU. If I end up saving on a processor I'll look at the Corsair.
>>107466951It's optimal.
I have these 3 9070xt models available at a similar price (~10€ difference):>Gigabyte Aorus Elite>Assrock Challenger>Powercolor reaperThere's also some cheaper Pulse/Pure Sapphire models but these must be getting sold fast because I can't expect one until next year.Which one should I grab if I value noise more than anything else?
>>107466951Because it's what everyone's buying. 6400cl32 and 6000cl32 are essentially the same ram but tend to be cheaper
stupid dumb fuck waitfags
>>107467056waitfagging has been a losing game since covid. also GPUs retain their value really well nowadays, so there's really no reason not to pull the trigger.
I guess I'll wait some more.
>>107467021Nevermind I just heard Gigabyte is the only brand that doesn't use PTM7950 and like hell am I gonna bother repasting
>>107466998Well the worst time to that is today.Followed by tomorrow.Followed by the day after...
I've currently got a 3600. I'm good on gpu and I managed to snag 32gb of ram secondhand for cheap, so the only thing that I could upgrade at this point is the cpu. Obviously the 5700x3D would probably be the best choice, but the prices for that one are actually stupid at this point. So as far as I can see that leaves the 5600, 5600x, 5700, 5700x as options. There's also the 56/700G variants, but I read that they perform worse, for an integrated graphics that I won't be using anyway. I'm getting kind of loopy looking at benchmarks, so my question is which one of these would be most worth getting? Is the 5600 enough of an upgrade over the 3600, or is it small enough that I should either get the 5700 or stay on the 3600? Is there enough difference between the X and non-X variants, or just get whichever is cheaper?
>9mm gap between GPU and front fansWill this be fine or should I get the bigger version of the Meshify? Bigger case also means a 360 AIO over a 280 one.
>>107467101I have a 5600 with a RX9070XT and all my games run just fine. The 5700X3D has been overpriced for a long time now.
>>107467085I'm not in a hurry and I'm kinda lost looking at todays technology. I think I might be able to build something good a bit cheaper but it's cancer to buy shit. This is sold out here, that is sold out there... I wish I could just order my shit in one store at least.
>5070 Ti is gone before I can even get off the shitterFUC KOFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
>>107467139How much was it?
>>1074671492900 PLNGot posted around 9 AM and disappeared shortly thereafter as I was trying to decide whether to contact the seller or not and then go pick it up in person
>>107466841>>107466865That guy is some sort of troll. 9800X3D is the standard high end gaming CPU everyone gets, X3D is needed if you play any cache sensitive games, and his efficiency core spam is irrelevant for games. 265k only has 8 performance cores with 8 threads, and its single core is unimpressive.Gaming benchmarks where 265k got slaughtered by AMD's last gen 7800X3D: https://www.techspot.com/review/2912-intel-core-ultra-7-265k/
>>107467154And in single core dependent productivity, 265k still gets slaughtered.
>>107466709No. This one will perform just as well for games.
>>107467175Looks great but i can't buy it sadly. It's not available anywhere. I don't think it ever was...
>old PC is starting to show its age with stability problems.>want to build a new PC.>must wait until late 2027, two years, for the price of DDR5 to normalise due to AI.I could purchase it now, but with the price markup it just doesn't feel right, so I will wait or buy a second-hand PC instead.Fuck Thai Flood for fucking up Hard Disk priceFuck Eth for fucking up GPU priceFuck AI for fucking up GPU and DDR5 price.
>>107467126>I have a 5600 with a RX9070XT and all my games run just fine.That's good to hear. Honestly the 3600 is still holding its own so far, besides the occasional dips when things get hectic. But I figure I might as well upgrade everything while I'm going to be in my pc's guts and cleaning it out. Get everything done in one go. Also while the local secondhand listings for the models I mentioned are still going cheap, because I suspect they'll also go up in price soon.>The 5700X3D has been overpriced for a long time nowIt sure is. Kinda kicking myself for not getting one of them when they were apparently going for cheap on aliexpress like a year and a half ago, but I wasn't even looking at pc components then so I just totally missed it.
>>107467154>>107467160I see, well thank you. I guess I just didn't want to overspend on a processor built for 4k if I was going to be mostly gaming at a power resolution and could have made do with a cheaper processor. That and compatibility with the GPU etc.
>>107462348>Lexar NM790>Lexar NM800 PROBoth around the same price, which one to get? I'd assume NM800 pro is better but unlike NM790 its not on the sticky/log
>>107467153>PLNMy sympathies.
>>107467207>https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/desktop-computers/alienware-aurora-gaming-desktop/spd/alienware-aurora-act1250-gaming-desktop/useact1250wcto21?configurationid=2a0515ad-043d-4590-becc-9e2718e7043f
What does the KF mean in Intel Core Ultra 7-265KF ?
>>107467271No iGPU.
>>107467263As I said I'm from a third world country.
>>107467271K means overclockable, F means no integrated GPU.
>>107467278>>107467282Is that a big deal?
>>107467281Sorry bro. I didn't understand. You just said it wasn't available anywhere.
>>107467290It is when you are trying to figure out why you dont have output form your GPU. It's worth having to me. That and you can run your PC without a dedicated GPU, such as RMA cases.
>>107467297Yeah, sorry for not elaborating in that response. Honestly it looks like I'll have to build myself. That Dell would be perfect even if it was overpriced like the rest.
>anons still talking about the 5600Yep, I'm thinking never obsolete.
>>107467290Either you need an iGPU or you don't. If you have old backup GPUs lying around, you're less likely to need the iGPU, but if you only have one GPU, it sucks if it breaks and you don't have anything else to use. K overclockability itself isn't such a big deal anymore, but K CPUs may be better binned and correlated with performance, so check benchmarks.
>>107467323>>107467360Thank you anons.
How do I know my memory is actually stable?
>>107467281I see I'm not the only one today struggling once again as with the entire week to decide what GPU to buy in this godforsakencountry
>>107467457You should've took advantage of the Black Friday deals. I saw plenty of cards 20 PLN off. It was huge.
>>107467445run stress tests like y-cruncher vt3 or testmem5 anta777 absolut profile for several hours and you shouldnt have any errors or in the case of y-cruncher, the speed of testing in GB/s should be +/- 1% over time
>>107462628I didnt know they made cl46 ram
>>107467234>The Lexar Professional NM800 Pro is a typical high-end PCIe 4.0 SSD that manages to set itself apart in some ways without impressing on the whole. It runs incredibly cool and is very efficient but has inconsistent performance results.NM800 is TLC + DRAM, with slightly higher TBW (2,000 for 2TB, vs the 790's 1500), and uses an Innogrit controller (an infamous one, known for killing itself depending on firmware and which company's memory it's paired with) along with Micron's 176-layer memory (one of the few "safe" brands when paired with that Innogrit controller.) Overall performance is somewhat middle of the road but overall performs slightly better (and sometimes quite a bit better) than the NM790.>The Lexar NM790 is an all-around excellent SSD with little to lament. All-around performance is good to great, including sustained performance, and it achieves this with excellent efficiency. This DRAM-less, 4-channel design rivals the best PCIe 4.0 drives while taking less power to do it.TLC, DRAM-less drive, using a Maxio controller and YTMC 232-layer memory. Performs among the best of the more budget-oriented drives and does it fairly efficiently, i.e. cooler temps. I feel like I've heard negative things about the longevity/reliability of Maxio/YTMC drives, but I don't remember for sure. You probably can't go wrong with either one. The tl;dr is that the 800 outperforms the 790, but not significantly so and they both run fairly cool. If theyr'e close in price, probably go with the 800.
>>107467610I would guess that's just the JEDEC timings and it doesn't have an XMP/EXPO.
Should I avoid this?Everyone moans about the dangerous little power connector but everyone says it's pretty much the best model all around.
>>107467534Lmao
>>107467639Yes. You should just get the 5070 Ti now that it's at MSRP
>>107467749I want to use linux exclusively.
>>107467753My condolences
>>107467637Advertised timings are always at XMP/EXPO and you can clearly see their branding there.
>>107467760Nta, but I have a w11 boot on one of my three ssds. I think I've used it once in the last 2 years. Windows is pretty shit once you've actually learned your way around Linux.
>96GB of 6800CL40 memory for $670On a scale of 1 to "you fucked up" how badly did I fuck up?
Every day I wonder why I didn't buy a 5700X3D at the last Christmas sale in Microcenter and instead walked out at the last minute when I HAD THE CASH AND SAW IT Thinking I could wait for AM5 back in Poland or what or that it didn't affect my work and that I somehow would not noticeFUCK
>>107467331>>107467457Cheer up bros. At least you can get some good paczki to get the shit computer import situation off your mind. You also don't want to deal with Dell's OEM connector bullshit.
>>107467802>Windows is pretty shit once you've actually learned your way around Linux.Unless you play one of the games that needs it for the anti-cheat to spy on y-- catch cheaters.
>>107467826You'll know in about six months.
>>107467840>paczkiI don't eat them anymore I have sibo and candida There is no cope for missing out
>>107467826bigly
>>107467840There are upsides to Poland but for some reason electronics and games are 20% more expensive. We have the most expensive games on Steam in the world.
>>107467874Why? What happens in 6 months?>>107467876How bigly?
>>107467918Your RAM is either double in value or the bottom falls out.
>>107467639I would stay away from this retarded connector, it's a time bomb.Other than aesthetics there is nothing special about that card.
>>107467931>bottom falls outthis will happen
>>107467229>overspend on a processor built for 4kIf you're playing at 4K the 9800X3D won't matter at all, it's for farming frames at 1080p low settings in fps games
>>107467887>Buying games on Polish $teamShiggy diggy.
>>107467935Maybe but prices will still be fucked. It will take another year to stabilize. Open AI bought all the wafers.
>>107467941What else we can do? Create a separate new japanese account? No thanks.
>>107467948They will go down by 20% after going up 50% and stay 30% more expensive till we live through a new craze that increases prices.
>>107467960Either way next year is going to suck. I may sell some of my RAM if it looks like the bubble will pop.
>>107467952Using separate account in country with lower prices like Ukraine, Russia or Turkey is the way to go.There is no reason to keep paying 100% extra for the same games.Or just grab free™ copies like normal human bean.
>>107467932I don't care about aesthetics either honestly, I just don't know that the alternative I have for a similar price (Aorus Elite) is any good.Well there's also the XFX Mercury non-OC for a similar price but I'm afraid of getting scammed.
>>107467992Yes but it's still fucked up and it's double fucked up that no one does anything about it. I hate this gay ass country.
Does undervolting a 3090 fix the transient spike issue?
>>107468005It's dumb for sure, because somehow physical versions of the games with steam codes were much cheaper than steam versions.You either play by their rules and get fucked or you play by your own rules.Software in Poland was always unreasonably expensive, especially in 90's and early 2000's.
how do I package my GPU to safeguard it against retarded couriers damaging it in shipping
>>107468034yes but its already pretty power limited at stock so you want to avoid PL to not lose even more performance
>>107468058Pretty sure all the subsidized phones/tablets and foreign junk made everyone forget we always had more expensive products that were also worse in quality
Good morning anonsIt's still over, over
>>107468090
Would 750W PSU be enough for Ryzrn 9 9900X + 9070XT?
>>107468002The main advantage of sapphire cards vs the others for me were extra fuses in case something failed you had easier time with fixing the GPU. But with 12VMeltyConnector this doesn't matter anymore because everything is connected into the same power plane so the fuses aren't going to blow soon enough.But that's for out of warranty repairs anyway.The differences between 9070xt models are simply not worth paying extra.I don't know where are you buying your hardware to be afraid of scams.
>>107463305Hi Andy, how's it going?
>>107467875Oof, cutting down on sugar and alcohol while living in Poland? Rough. I don't think I could live in either Poland or Czechia without ever having pivo/piwo with a good dinner. >>107467887The only part of Poland I've ever been to was Katowice (I was in Ostrava for an academic conference and a few of us decided to take the train to Katowice for the day) and it was nice. I think just about the only thing I miss about college was getting to spend time in Europe for research internships.Yeah, you guys get fucked on electronics, but that's just part of reality sometimes. Your rent situation also seems to be getting pretty bad if any of my polish friends have any idea what they are talking about.
>>107468189>Your rent situation also seems to be getting pretty bad if any of my polish friends have any idea what they are talking about.Prices are rising and getting worse than in other european countries while our salaries stay at post soviet levels in most places. If you live and work in a big city you are probably okay as your salary should be decent but others get turbo fucked. Today in the news I heard that if you can't afford to eat you should eat less. Fasting is good for you after all. Poland is nice and safe but many downsides are appearing very fast in recent years, definitely post covid it's been getting worse and worse.
Close your eyes together with me and let's take a ride into the future18 months pass, you have saved up money, it's time, it's RTX 6090 release, Jensen does a reveal, shows a new must-have feature that you cannot live without, 2x the perf of a 5090You beat bots, scalpers everyone day 1 and you buy it on release, you build your new system, peace is finally hadThe wait was worth the timeHold strong. Believe in the wait. We will all be redeemed in time. Our suffering will be rewarded greatly. We are the chosen.
i've been waiting for you-hoooooohere inside my hearti'm the onewho wants to buyyoumoreeeeeeeeeee
>>107468283I just don't trust them anymore. There are always some safety issues with their cards.
>>107468308I doubt they will stop using the 12vhpwr but maybe next time they will implement some safety measures...
>>107468072It's not possible to be fully safe.But putting GPU box inside even bigger box will help, just make sure it's not moving around.
>>107468283But I don't need $4000 800W space heater.
>>107468345>space heater>heat from your house will be visible from spaceIt's a feature!
>>107468354>Turn on PC>Whole neighborhood blacks outOops!
>>107462348https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3uqiBB27hgfinally, it only took nvidia 10 months to make the rtx5090 not lose to a gtx1060 in old games
>>107468414Now do AMD.
>>107468414thank you Jensen
>>107468283I bought a 5090 FE on launch and nearly feinted while in the checkout queue
>>107468414>6600mhz fclk2200atrocious
>>107468283I had my doubts about getting a 5090 and was wondering if I should wait for the 60 series but with shit hitting the fan right now it may have been a good decision
>>107468473>>current monitor dies two days laterLCD Lasts Forever law strikes again
>>107468461>6600MT/s on AM5What is even the point, it's not running in 1:1. 6000MT/s 1:1 will be faster.
>>107468514he doesnt know what he's doing
>>107468414I honestly think some geforce dev was just annoyed he couldn't play mirror's edge on a 5090 lol
>>107468473what that said are lenovo running sales on their oled monitors? still not cheap enough or insanely competitive but they are still on sale here like Lenovo Legion Pro 32UD-10one more model to keep checking on if it goes on saleor the 27" variantbut still not cheap
>>107468473waitfags lose again
>>107468559he win, now he can buy an oled instead
>>107468473Should have done it, I love mine even if it has a dead pixel. It was half of the price of everything else similar in my country.
>>107468577It's curved. Isn't that bad?
>>107468146I was mainly exaggerating but this is a random seller on Amazon.I'm aware of cheaper models that might suffice but every single fucking time I've bought a GPU I ended up with a model that wasn't great at doing the two things I'm most concerned about: Being somewhat silent and not reaching 100C hotspot on full load. When looking at models, what I have is this:>Pulse at the lowest price for the 9070xt, arrives in february though, who the fuck waits 2 months for a GPU>Pure for an outrageous price compared to the Nitro+>Powercolor Hellhound for cheap, Reaper for... cheaper, same price as the Pulse (these seem to be the most silent models I've seen)>Assrock Steel legend (dark) at the same price as the Pulse/Reaper>Asrock Challenger actually pricier>Aorus Elite at the top of my budget>XFX Swift/Quicksilver/Mercury all very similarly priced (each respectively +10€ more than the previous model)
>>107468565oled chads always win
>>107468654Nah the R27QE gen 1 which is the monitor that actually shipped is a flat panel.
>>107468654not at all
>>107468680Are you in Germany?
>>107468738Nope, Spain
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>>107468741ah they have that weird Sapphire Pulse 610€ arrives in feb offer here too. I think the cheapest models are usually assrock and niggabyte, but I'd pay the 10€ more and get a swift or reaper, with swift probably being slightly preferable.
I already said it before I'll say it again, the best 9070 xt model is the mercury OC (it has to be the OC, yes there is a mercury non-OC) and the best budget model is the xfx swift
>>107468680This is kinda useful for comparing 9070xt models. Not the law or anything, but it's something. Tldw XFX Swift is likely best value.https://youtu.be/zQQUfQw5JA8?si=XnftRmSOm7LuYPHz&t=591
>>107468794I might get the xfx swift, although I heard it needs some fucking with the fans because XFX cards have very aggressive default fan curves (whereas powercolor GPUs do the opposite).The reaper is 20€ cheaper and the hellhound 20€ pricier than the swift. It's tough. XFX cards are not as easily available.
>>107468680To have mostly silent and cool card you will have to set custom fan curve and UV your card anyway.But if you get card with shitty thermal interface it won't help, QA for certain manufacturers is clearly worse than for the others.I don't like ordering from random sellers on Scamazon, they also have higher prices than what my local retailers offer.It's strange Pulse is in so high demand you have to wait until February for the delivery.All those cards are so similar to each other it almost doesn't matter which one you pick.
>>107468873>The reaper is 20€ cheaperthat would be a no brainer for me, powercolor cards are pretty good too
the mercury OC has 8 (or 9) heatpipes, a vapor chamber and is the lenghtiest, thickiest and fattest 9070 xt, if you get samsung memory with it you can shunt mod it and run it at 500w and it'll still be below 80c on memory and hotspot temperatures
>>107468840>>107468931i think the powercolor reva is the quietiest 9070xt out there. plus its waifu.
>>107468913Yeah you're right, I'm overthinking this too much.>>107468907I heard that with the exception of Gigabyte, pretty much any brand these days uses PTM7950.It's something I've applied on 2 GPUs and a laptop, it's nothing revolutionary, but I just don't like having to open up GPUs and having issues with the warranty because it so happens I'm european.>>107468979I saw this one for 699€ (same price as the aorus elite). It was pretty tempting, not gonna lie
>>107468414>discontinue tech>keep working on itit silly but most welcome
>>107468414See I'm gonna ditch nvidia but they right some wrongs every now and then
>>107469015>with the exception of Gigabyte, pretty much any brand these days uses PTM7950This is largely an AMD thing yeah? Not really up to speed on all this new stuff
>>107468331is it better to take off the cooler from the PCB during shipping and put the heatsink elsewhere in another box so it reduces the risk of damage to the board?
>>107469196nvidia is the real why china is going to win the AI race AND the reason you can't buy RAM anymore
>>107469238Not sure, but there's a chart out there that shows the 9070xt models available and most brands use it.
>>107469258Yeah, I'm just hoping I can sell my novidia GPU to some fool.
>>107469244No need, pcbs only get damaged if you ship GPU installed into the motherboard.After all all the GPUs get shipped all the way from China and they are fine.
>>107468680I have the Pulse, which was the cheapest local retailer 9070 XT I saw at the start of November and it runs very silent and low temp out of the box.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDvfIbRIb3Uframe gen has a real use case, but it's not here yet because CPUs/chipsets don't have enough pcie lanes, when we get 1 16x slot + 1 8x slot on a board you'll be able to do 4k 240hz with 1 70 series card rendering the frames at 60 or 90 and another 60 series older card running the upscaling to 240, it'll go from 30ms total end to end latency to like 55ms max which is negligible in AAA single playerthe video shows that you can do 2x LSFG today and get 2 times for fps and just 10ms increase with 2 60 series gpus, the technology just needs more pcie bandwidth to do the same with a higher multiplier and resolution
Ok so due to shit economy and RAM prices skyrocketing I am forced to speed up buying a new rig. My aim is something that can run games and perform well for another 10+ years in 1080p/1440p.my build :https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yZBtcxPC is going to be used for gaming (for now in 1080p but when I upgrade to a new monitor then 1440p) like BF 1, LoL, Marvel Rivals, WoW, and some other newer titles when I feel like there's something worth playing, Blender and maybe some AI slop, art with PhotoShop/Krita.Can I :- optimize more- cut costs even more- is the PSU ok when it comes down to wattage or should I go with something cheaper or pricier- the case is a placeholder so if someone has any suggestions I'm all ears, don't need anything flashy, no LGBT lights etc but proper ventilation, USB ports on top of the case and such.
>>107468283Bro I can never afford an xx90 card. I was dreaming for a 980/1080 back then and its now a fucking xx70
>>107469383dream it, believe it, achieve it
>>107469383xx90 cards used to be nice when they maxed out under 300W. they're extreme housefires these days that you really don't want to keep long term
>>107469457power limit won't do that much damage will it+ in 4k there is no option when it's twice as fast no
>>107469383I used to be in the price segment for $550-$700 cards tooNow that got inflated away to shit
3060 Ti to 3090 upgrade for 688 dollars for 3DCG/AI, worth it over the 5070 or nah?
>>107469476its just hugely uncomfortable to run one at full load for a long time unless you turn the A/C on
>>107469490well the 5070 has zero use for CG/AI so yes
>>107469498All those improvements in the architecture means jack fucking shit if those cards are starved for VRAM and bandwidth, which is what pushing me away from the 5070 and even the 5070 Ti or 4080 price to performance wise, even if the 3090 is not as good as those. I just hope the card I find isn't a fucking refurbished dud.
>>107469524the newer cards have anywhere from 6-16x the L2 cache of the 3090 and don't need 350-400W to get the same level of performance
>>1074695245070 is a terrible card, 3090 is an old card
>>107469494In summer I would assume a bundled AC is a must (as a eurocuck)I only had a like 300w desktop and during heatwaves in a small room even with window open I was literally dying600w gpu+300w cpu would be like a server farm I would literally die from heat exhaustion during sleepI def see the view point of quality of life in reducing wattsswapping to a laptop in same room was like suddenly there was no heat in comparison even at idle or full blast
2060 (pcie 3.0 x4): 63ms3060 (pcie 4.0 x4): 45ms, almost the same as 2x on the single cardwhen we get a pcie 5.0 card running at x8 I think that the technology will be really interesting, assuming the pcie lanes bandwidth is the bottleneck here, which probably isI think there's a real chance that it'll run at like +5 ms extra latency than running it in 1 card with no frame gen, because the workload of frame gen is actually very small
>>107469596>>107469596>>107469596
>8GB GDDR modules only costed like two dollars at one point>can't get 32GB on all our cards in the meantimeWhat the fuck, is this true? Are we getting jewed t hat hard?
>>107469733Shaving off memory bus width to the minimum saves Nvidia millions of dollars
