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Previous thread: >>107454191
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>>107477810
Should be renamed unfriendly gnugger Linux thread.
Arch shitters need to be ridiculed
Rtfm culture needs to return
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>>107477810
just started kali, what's some cool shit i can do with it? i've already looked into nmap and i got the metasploit console set up
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>>107477823
this
half the questions are fucking stupid anyway
>which distro should i use if i come from windows and wanna game
literally doesn't matter and fuck you if you install bazzite and complain how life is hard
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>>107477823
>ridiculed
*GASSED
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>>107477823
>Rtfm culture needs to return
No, that's retarded. Just ask an AI.
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$$ shuf -n 2 /etc/passwd | cut -f 1 -d :
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>>107477810
I wish you could replace the windows shell with KDE still.
I just want to use a DE that's built in C+ FUCKKKKK
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>>107478215
>giving a shit about the programming language used
brainlet behavior
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Any linux distro that works with my 3090 and triple monitor setup?

>tried ubuntu
>just black screen installer wont even start unless I add nomodeset acpi=off
>installer starts
>successfully installed
>no option to change resolution from 1024x728
>reinstall drivers
>still the same
>fuck it
>try zorin OS
>same problem with ubuntu installer
>did the same thing now it installs
>try to reboot after it's finished
>just black fucking screen
>disabled secure boot and all

oh my fucking god this is fucking nuts i'll try mint right now if this still does not fucking work correctly, fuck linux man
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>>107478352
Your problem is NVIDIA is complete and utter shit. I'm sat her using my AMD 9070 XT with three monitors right now.
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>>107478364
then it looks like the world is not ready for linux
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>>107478364
>>107478352
To answer the question more seriously though:
>Try a distro that has an NVIDIA specific iso image like Bazzite or Pop OS, etc.
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>>107478370
NVIDIA is not the world though. If anything Linux has helped to make NVIDIA better, they just don't care about graphics anymore.

They've got lots of AI servers to sell you though.
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>>107478352
Sadly, Nvidia still sucks at Linux but maybe try Bazzite or any of the gayming distros
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>>107478378
>>107478371
alright i'll try bazzite
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Status for the jail: sshd
|- Filter
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`- Actions
|- Currently banned: 52
|- Total banned: 52

Although bots try logging into my vps every god damn hour, should I not be worried? I have ssh keys and a simplistic fail2ban config.
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>>107478352
Nvidia drivers are so ass people will likely just avoid helping with issues like that
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>>107478553
You should not be worried, yes. Bots are scanning the whole fucking Internet on the daily for open SSH ports. You're using key based authentication and presumably have password auth disabled so what then is there to be worried about?

OpenSSH having a very nasty bug that would affect not just you but millions of others too is the only concern but that's unlikely.
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How do I into wine/proton? Nothing works on it and I'm convinced it's just because I have no clue how to configure it properly
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>>107478553
if there's an exploitable vulnerability with pubkey auth for ssh, there are way bigger problems than your VPS.
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>>107478721
Explain the problem you're having with your big boy words, Anon. "It doesn't work" is boomer tier.
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is Troondora heavy on disk reads? I kinda wanna install it on an external HDD but it being a bloated pos might render it unusable
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>>107478721
Use Steam
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>>107478721
unironically you can paste your problems to chatgpt and the like
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>>107478352
Ubuntu, Zorin and Mint are all the same distro with the same drivers from a year and a half ago. Use Bazzite or CachyOS, they usually have the latest drivers.
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>>107478721
>install bottles
>create new bottle
>run exe
that's it
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>>107478838
Most modern desktop distros aren't intended to be loaded off hard drives, Anon.
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>>107478809
Different programs give different errors so there's no universal thing that I think would fix it all. I get the impression different programs require different configuration and when I do what >>107478864 suggested the results I get look extremely nigger rigged and unsustainable.
>>107478845
Steam games all work, what concerns me is games I didn't get from there.
>>107478894
Tried that, there's some other such issues with the underlying wine config and I can't pin it down.
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>>107478993
>>Steam games all work, what concerns me is games I didn't get from there.
You can add them on Steam too
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AlmaLinux 10.1 now supports Btrfs. They also ship the open Nvidia driver and have things like SAS2008 drivers re-enabled in their kernels.

I don't want to abandon ZFS but the convenience is tempting...
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is steamOS worth getting over something else for a casual fag? what about for dev work?
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>>107479128
Not really. SteamOS isn't that usable outside of very basic stuff and gaming. Dev work will often require you to install packages system-wide, which is unsupported.
If you want a "casual distro" that's similar to SteamOS, but not locked down, then use Bazzite.
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>>107479307
oh i saw bazzite get brought up a few times but i didnt know it was a distro
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>>107479427
what the hell you thought it was?
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>>107479572
just some application or emulator like wine
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Can't pinpoint the issue but since a while I have no sound when rebooting. I manually have to "systemctl --user stop wireplumber.service". Any help with this issue? It's annyoing.
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>>107478721
My advice:

Always use Steam if possible
GOG or Epic = Heroic Launcher
Everything else = Faugus Launcher

Yes you can run stuff directly through wine etc, but using faugus makes managing prefixes much easier.

You should give us the programms that give you issues then we can figure it out. Usually everything just works by using Proton-GE or CachyOS-Proton meme instead of default Proton
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>>107479785
Check logs to see if you have any errors on bootup or login.
I guess in the worst case you can just add "systemctl --user stop wireplumber.service" to your autostart as a login script until your distro fixes it's shit.
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>>107479923
>Faugus
My nigga almost nobody uses this shit. Bottles, Lutris and Heroic are the only relevant launchers.
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>>107479950
Lutris is garbage and bloat
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>>107479985
I don't care nor do I use it. I'm just stating the fact that all of those 3 above have 10x the users that Faugus has and are thus more likely to "just work" and are less likely to become abandonware.
Strictly from a market share perspective, Faugus is used by maybe 3% of Linux gamers who use these frontends. Just like PlayOnLinux is. As a Linux user you're already in the 3% niche. Going further into the 3% of the 3% is a bad idea.
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>>107478888
What compels people to recomment distro instead of manually typing few commands and updating the drivers? Seems like most people itt who give their bottom tier "advice" should just buy a macbook and go post on facebook instead.
Changing distro won't do anything.
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>>107480165
*d
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Should I use SecureBoot or not?
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>>107480082
???
In the end all these Launchers do the same shit. Create a prefix and run the game through it.
Lutris "offers" user made scripts that simply do not work at all. Their Launcher integration is ass and development also stopped since the dev jumped ship
Faugus offers a 1click install for all game launchers that actually works and offers better and easier settings.

Honestly nowadays there is not reason for Lutris to even exist anymore, bro should delete his repo
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>middle click configured to paste instead of to roll the screen
This is such a weird thing to have as default config, is it that way because of historical reasons or what?
I was doing some shit on Figma and kept wondering why when moving the canvas with middle click drag kept pasting text and ended up digging around system configs.
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so i was going to install arch but i cant get a stable internet connection
whats the best kde distro with up to date packages and offline installer, fedora?
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>>107480246
What's the issue? Are you using iwd properly? Could you not just plug an ethernet cable in to install it if you can't get the wireless working properly?
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>>107480165
Believe it or not, people want their OS to work properly out of the box instead of having to tinker with it and use the command line like it's the 80s.

>>107480233
>is it that way because of historical reasons or what?
Yes. It's a separate clipboard called "Primary selection". Whenever you select some text it's automatically copied to it. Normally an application would prevent text pasting if it has it's own middle-click interaction/event. But Figma is a browser app and web browsers default to not blocking middle-click pasting on Linux.

>>107480246
>whats the best kde distro with up to date packages and offline installer, fedora?
Yes.
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>>107477810
Im installing XFCE and X11 there is nothing you can do about it.
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>>107480480
Ok
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>>107480328
>Yes. It's a separate clipboard called "Primary selection". Whenever you select some text it's automatically copied to it. Normally an application would prevent text pasting if it has it's own middle-click interaction/event. But Figma is a browser app and web browsers default to not blocking middle-click pasting on Linux.
Different anon. How to change the behaviour of the middle mouse button click to rolling the screen?
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>>107480179
Only if you dual boot Win11 for anti cheat malware gayming.
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>>107480082
As long as it's maintained who gives a shit about the amount of users it has
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What is the difference between nvidia and nvidia-open?
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>>107480179
I mean it works nowadays for Linux, but why go through the trouble. It does nothing in the end.
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>>107480759
nvidia-open is a newer driver that's made to work with newer cards including the open source modules that Nvidia released for Linux.
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>>107480328
Then get a macbook instead of larping as linux user. It's not an os for people like you.
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>>107480577
>behaviour of the middle mouse button click to rolling the screen?
In Firefox it's in about:preferences -> Use autoscrolling.
I have no idea about Chrome, but it seems doable. https://search.brave.com/search?q=linux+chrome+middle+click+scroll&summary=1

>>107480776
>gatekeeping an OS
How far deep are you in the autism spectrum?
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>>107478352
Uh... I know this may sound stupid but have you tried setting the resolution through xrandr? If you don't have that command then you're probably using wayland which might be the issue, because as far as I know wayland doesn't interact well with nvidia.
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>>107479923
>Faugus Launcher
That shit has built in ads.
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Are Lutris and Bottles just cope for immutablefags? I've never had any issues just double clicking an exe to run it through WINE. Fedora btw
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I switched from nvidia to AMD, in order to push myself towards using linux exclusively (since I have some trouble on nvidia). But I still need a few tools to be running, and on AMD I'm having more trouble with nvidia with shit that requires openCL or whatever the fuck.
I'm alright with losing openCL support temporally on Affinity V3 (which is quite an accomplishment to even run without it crashing and burning) but I noticed that I had much less trouble with Davinci Resolve on nvidia than AMD. Not only did I have to switch runtimes and make sure only the rocm opencl one was available, half of the time I'm afraid of clicking anything because it'll just fucking crash and close. I cannot import a certain file format from a plugin I use frequently because this piece of garbage editor won't tell me what's wrong (and because I don't want to pay 300 bucks for the cool version that does this process automatically).
Anyways, is it a better experience anywhere else with AMD? Any different distro maybe? I remember that one guy distro, Nobara, having a script for installing Davinci because this program is just infuriating.
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>>107480939
I don't know what that software is but I'm guessing you're the guy that refers to donation requests as "ads"

Guess what: FOSS developers aren't your slaves. They could go and produce proprietary software, but they're choosing to make FOSS software, with the help of donations from people who use the software. If you don't want to see donation requests then go and use Macroshaft Wangblows and accept whatever steaming pile of shit they give you.
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>>107481439
Retard
>>107479923
Just install WINE if you don't want to add something as a non-Steam game
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Is there anywhere that I can find a comparison of utilities?
I'm currently looking at system monitoring tools and right now I currently use btm over top or htop but there's a ton of these tools such as btop, atop, ctop, gtop.
The same thing can be said for file managers like yazi and system info fetch utils like neofetch which I believe is no longer maintained.
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>>107481454
You're as thick as pig shit. Go and, let's see more of your impotent crying about donation requests
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>>107480791
thanks
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>>107481074
Double clicking works with Bottles and probably Lutris. Not having a GUI for WINE is fine if you don't need it, but many people prefer using launchers and also having a GUI to manage prefixes and dependencies.

>>107481386
>I remember that one guy distro, Nobara, having a script for installing Davinci because this program is just infuriating.
Seems like it's a whole compatibility package, not just a script. Just distro hop to Nobara. Or use distrobox https://github.com/zelikos/davincibox
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>>107481439
It has the most insidious type of ad, the one only a trained eye can see. These ads try to meddle with your subconscious. I don't blame you for not seeing it.
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>>107481503
the fuck are you even talking about
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Are the new kernels on mint/ubuntu bricked with amd or is it just me?
Can't upgrade above -157 or I get a black screen on boot.
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>>107481479
Man, reading the issues it seems like this program is a shitshow practically everywhere. Slightly regret ditching nvidia if it weren't for several other problems.
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>>107481610
Hence why a container like a distrobox would be a fine idea. It's a separate lightweight Linux environment running under your real OS. Once you get it to work you never have to touch it again nor worry that your system updates will break it.
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>>107481666
Yep, thanks for pointing me in the right direction, I will still be using cachy
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>>107480939
This guy has a stroke when Gnome or KDE ask for donations once a year
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>>107481074
Its just much easier to debug if an issue arises if you separate prefixes. Also running other windows tools inside that prefix is easier with a frontend gui. Needed for example for some mod managers.

Its not cope, you just don't need it as it has no
>usecase
for you
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>>107481752
Doesn't GNOME have a persistent "donate" button somewhere in the settings?
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>>107481813
Pretty sure thats true.
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>>107481752
to disable the gnome donation notification: gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.housekeeping donation-reminder-enabled false
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Can someone repill me about bio-linux? I just got started on bioinformatics. Mainly population genetics.

Is it a good starting place for a normie like me?
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I like Bluefin
It just works
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>>107482500
Based, but Gnome is ass
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Building a linux music station.
>hurrp durp linux cant do audio
Watch me.
Is deezmate a good place to grab .flacs? It according to itself grabs from deezer, which does have lots of flacs... Size seems to be about right when i download but i worry it is ai upscaled so that it's not a real flac mp3 pretending to be a flac.
t. audio autist
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>>107482512
GNOME is best for atomic image stuff. KDE has way too many addons like kvantum, darkly, klassy to make it look fancy
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>>107482557
>caring about making your DE "fancy"
Works fine for all the SteamOS users which are using an even less customizable distro.
Either way, KDE team has committed to improving Plasma for Atomic and immutable distros. Even their flagship distro is now just an immutable Arch.
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>>107482500
Bluefin Developer Image is based.
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>>107481074
I used to need them for wine-ge but since umu came out I just use umu the same way that I used wine, separate prefixes but I manage them manually with the latest proton-ge
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>>107477823
>Rtfm culture needs to return
Linux doesn't have good manuals, GNU does somewhat. BSD is best in class with on-line docs.
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Am I gonna get anything better than Bazzite if I want a distro to install on my handheld PC that I'd like to 'dock' from time-to-time and use as an actual PC?
I looked at CachyOS but heard you can fuck it up (plus the handheld version doesn't offer Gnome, which seems more touchscreen-friendly should I need to use the handheld's touchscreen in a pinch), and Nobara (maintained by a single person, which seems like a big no-no).
My only concern with Bazzite is that it has some gamer bloat - can I just uninstall all of this? I don't want controls for RGB, or Lutris, or different launchers. I just want to play in Steam Big Picture mode and that's it.
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>>107481037
looking good, might want to consider switching to dosbox-staging for shaders, integrated munt and overall better audio ootb
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>>107483904
>can I just uninstall all of this?
No because Atomic. You have to rebuild the entire system to make any significant changes. This is what Gentoo is made for. Offload compiling to a real computer and have everything custom for the mini to maximize battery life.
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>>107483904
>but heard you can fuck it up
you can fuck up anything, the beauty of freedom.
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>>107483904
Bazzite is just Fedora with extra stuff
CachyOS is just Arch with extra stuff
90% of other distros are just Ubuntu or Debian with extra stuff

It's better to just use the upstream distros because there are more devs working on them and there's less chance that someone fucks up an update for example. Also when things go wrong (and they WILL eventually go wrong if you use Linux for long enough) you get more documentation on how to solve problems from upstream distros like fedora, arch, debian, etc...
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Is anyone using compiz in the year 2025? Does it work with Xlibre?

I've been experimenting with it and it seems compiz (0.8 series) has graphical/visual artifacts with Xlibre but not Xorg
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are windows managers a meme?
do they cause issues with software?
how do you handle theming of QT and GTK software?
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>>107485863
no
no
appearance settings programs
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>>107485944
what do you recommend for a beginner with window managers?
i was thinking qtile or hyprland
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2 threads ago I was asking about getting openCL working with some old AMD cards correctly and I eventually got it, then gave up temporarily when john itself had issues specific to those cards.

What I'm working on now is using an old nvidia tesla K20Xm GPU to accelerate john. That worked without much issue, but I noticed that the GPU clock is only going up to about half of what it should be. I installed green with envy to try overclocking it (It's only pulling 100 watts and has a TDP of 235W, the and I have TONS of thermal overhead, plus its SUPPOSED to be clocked at ~2x what it is now)

After breaking my X server 4 or 5 times trying to get the "Coolbits" option set to 12 I finally got GWE to be able to modify GPU and memory clock frequencies. Under full load the GPU clock hits 365 MHz and it should be going up to 784 MHz. The memory clock is at the expected 2600 MHz. I tried increasing the GPU clock speed a bit and the maximum clock speed displayed by GWE increased accordingly, but the current clock speed remained stuck at 365. Strangely however, both increasing and decreasing the memory clock DOES actually impact the ACTUAL clock speed.

I looked into this further and eventually used the nvidia-smi terminal interface to get a whole bunch of information about the card and found that that the power state was P0 (the highest) and that the clock event reason (ie throttling reason, if any) was being displayed as "HW Slowdown" which can be caused either by high temperature or power limitations. I know it isn't temperature because it's slow-down temp is 90 C and it's only hitting 40 C. That just leaves a power issue. The way I have it set up, the card is getting power from a second dedicated 650W PSU in addition to whatever it pulls from the PCIe slot, so it should have MORE than enough.

Can the card tell it's getting power from 2 different PSUs and could that be the issue?

>tldr: my tesla K20Xm's GPU is running at half clock speed, any idea why and how to fix it?
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How do I get nobara to display thumbnails from files in my NAS? Copying the file into my pc makes them show up, they just won when the files are still in the NAS
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gamers should be killed.
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>>107477810
holy nostalgia. i should spin up a kde classic desktop.
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>>107486144
What file manager are you using? Most file managers have an option to enable thumbnailing for non-local files.
Thumbnails for non-local files are disabled by default on most file managers to save space when caching thumbnails because there's no point in caching thumbnails for files in a device that will be connected once, e.g. USB stick
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gno/house or gno/bed? hmmm
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>>107486485
Dolphin, I ended up finding it myself though, thanks anon
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>arch is unsta-
>19 days of uptime
i'm gonna have to reboot when i update but i still don't get people who say it's unstable
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>>107486707
Stability means unchanging. Arch is a rolling release, ergo it is not stable. It is also one of the most likely rolling release distros to "break" your install after updates. That's all that is meant
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Easiest way to play sounds through my microphone for lolz? I found this script on GitHub that creates a virtual microphone and streams an audio file with FFmpeg, but it overwrites my microphone input. Could I change this to stream it straight to my Easy Effects source or something similar?
#!/bin/bash

INPUT_FILE=$1
VIRTMIC_PATH=/tmp/virtmic

function cleanup() {
pactl unload-module module-pipe-source
rm -f "$HOME"/.config/pulse/client.conf
}

pactl load-module module-pipe-source source_name=virtmic file=$VIRTMIC_PATH format=s16le rate=16000 channels=1
trap cleanup EXIT
pactl set-default-source virtmic
echo "default-source = virtmic" > "$HOME"/.config/pulse/client.conf
ffmpeg -re -i "$INPUT_FILE" -f s16le -ar 16000 -ac 1 - > "$VIRTMIC_PATH"
[\code]
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Any Artix users itt? Looking at migrating to it for my next build, but I'm curious about the day-to-day experience of running with Arch packages installed.
The documentation's kind of vague except for a warning that their repos update at different rates and that you can break your system that way, but there's a few horror stories on the forums about accidentally dragging in tons of Arch dependencies, there not being a good way to differentiate between Arch and Artix-provided packages in pacman, etc etc.
Is it the sort of setup that's just asking for problems and takes constant vigilance to not explode every time you update, or is it fairly straightforward to keep working with a handful of programs pulled in from upstream?
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>>107486367
I'm sorry anon, you're going to need to setup a machine gun nest as droves are spotted on the horizon coming this way as Windows is shitting the bed like its developers and they look for alternatives
hard times are ahead
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>>107477810
OP how do I get that look? That early 2000s Linux look is fuckin kino my dude.
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Why hasnt someone forked the mint utilities like update manager, software manager, driver manager to a meta package where you can install all these on debian without needing any of mints stuff. Its the superior software manager on linux.

I dont want to use linux mint
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>>107477810
I'm currently using EndeavourOS but thinking about switching to AntiX or MX Linux. Looking for input on which way to go as I've only played around with them in VM. I use my computer for work and play. I use steam and the heroic launcher, freecad, printing, 3d printing (prusa), and general office work. Occasionally programming.
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Is there something like Kodi for desktop?
I know in the literal sense it is for the desktop, but actually using it with a keyboard and mouse is unpleasant since obviously it was designed for a TV. I just like the aspect of it fetching the art and having all this data for media to make it more pleasant than looking at folders in dolphin.
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>>107487043
Bro are you retarded? Kodi's Linux port is a desktop application
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>>107487021
One word: Rust
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>>107487099
>I know in the literal sense it is for the desktop, but actually using it with a keyboard and mouse is unpleasant since obviously it was designed for a TV.
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>>107487117
Yea I'm talking about forking all their tools into one package and making it work on debian+arch systems.

Archive manager(mint file roller)
Update manager(mint update)
Software manager(mint install)
Image viewer(xviewer)
Document scanner(simple scan)
Document viewer (xreader)
Driver manager
Transmission
Printers
Library
Calendar
Celluloid


All these into one meta package that you can install on debian as one package.
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>>107486655 (checked)
More like Suckless/House.
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Ok I swapped to linux, now what?
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>>107487296
Buy some programming socks and a short dress
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>>107487325
For whom? I don't have a daughter nor a gf
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>>107487330
For yourself, baka
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I built my new computer and had it successfully boot for over a week and I can't fucking use it because Mint was complete trash and now Fedora is completely nonfunctional with nvidia drivers. Had to fiddle for several days to get Mint to even recognize the nvidia driver it supposedly installed, and all it did was crash the display completely if i alt-tab games that had no problems alt tabbing on my older win10 PC. Now I'm trying Fedora and it simply crashes before the log-in screen after I installed through rpmfusion.

I'm so tired of this shit I just want to use my new PC. I don't want to use wangblows 11 cause I know it's garbage having to use it at work, but at I haven't heard it do this type of shit. This is my first time installing linux and all it made me do was restart my computer 2 dozen times.
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>>107487336
But I like wearing nothing but my undies when I'm home
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Is the KDE "krash" meme real or just a shilled meme here?
Kubuntu looks interesting for me.
Haven't switched to Linux yet though.
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>>107487345
Well that's not Linux-y enough at all!
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>>107487201
The only thing good about Mint was that it was good ol reliable. The install process was dead simple and the end result wasn't actual shit like Ubuntu.

I only used it for a browser, plus terminal

That's it. The rest of the tools are whatever and not that great.
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>>107487342
Personally, I went with Nobara and while I'm still in my learning phase, I'm not having too many issues. So far from my daily games only Genshin refuses to play properly, despite working on my Deck
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>>107487353
I think it's good enough for most use cases. Been using it on a mini PC meant for media and home server stuff and it's awesome.
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>>107487296
Immediately develop very strong opinions about what you installed and unleash them upon the internet like a mongol horde
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>>107487362
How old was your PC? I'm thinking of just shelving attempts at installing linux and maybe trying another attempt in a year to see if the driver issues are resolved.
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>>107487385
Fairly recent, Nobara has support for older GPUs (Pascal and before IIRC) too though, but I can't really say how well they work
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>>107487425
Speaking of weird stuff not working, I have no idea why it reports those sizes for my monitors, since the vertical one is 27" instead of 31" and the horizontal one is 42", not 72"
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>>107487425
I'm guessing the issue is that I have a 5090 instead of a 4090. Whatever the issue is, they're just too crippling and I ran out of patience, hope it gets better eventually.
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>>107487466
Can really say, I'm fairly new to Linux myself and other than knowing that Nobara automatically setups the drivers for you there's not much I can say
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do i actually have to learn cli to use linux?
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>>107487531
not really. and there is no learning cli. you learn to use programs.
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>>107487536
I'm like 70/30 on everything I do I can do in a browser and light gaming, I'm just also an idiot.
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Hey, I'm a Windows refugee. I'm considering Linux since a lot of my games are now warning me that they'll no longer be supported. I've been looking at Bazzite but I have a few questions. Can you still use it as a regular computer or is it all games all the time and nothing else? What exactly does immutable mean and is it stable? I tried to install Ubuntu back when I built my first PC and it felt like it was freezing constantly. I have an all AMD machine with 32GB of ram.
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>>107487596
all of this can be answered with a simple google search or ai. fuck off street shitter.
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Is there any way to install xorg and a DE on proxmox? I want to use a spare laptop as a VM host, but need to retain full laptop functionality.
>>107487531
>>107487556
No, and it's not scary. Use a popular version of Linux. At most you will be copy pasting commands to follow an install guide if you need some obscure software.
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>>107487342
I've been on Linux (Kubuntu) for two monthes now and while it mostly works I've run into enough frustrations that I've almost switched back. But every other day the news on Windows 11 just gets worse. PC gaming sucks ass right now.
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>>107487596
>games
*goymes
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>>107487596
On an immutable system you install Flatpak container versions of any program you can install via the GUI package store, so you can make a Bazzite install pretty much do whatever you please. Immutable means that you can't change anything outside of the /home folder which to some means that the distro stays more stable, with tested updates basically replacing everything every time outside of your /home which is kept (and why Flatpaks are installed within it.)
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>>107487616
>copy pasting commands to follow an install guide
great work retard. telling people to copy and paste commands into their terminal is a great fucking idea, that way xir is guaranteed to come back and complain when xir breaks something.
bunch of fucking shitters.
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>European governments are pushing back against Big Tech's grip on public infrastructure. Denmark announced earlier this year that its Ministry of Digital Affairs was switching from Microsoft to LibreOffice. In more recent news, Switzerland's data protection authorities declared international cloud services unsuitable for handling personal data.

>One German state has been leading this charge for quite some time. Schleswig-Holstein started its open source journey early, becoming something of a vanguard in Europe's move away from proprietary software.
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>>107487640
>nooo you can't follow a guide
cry more
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>>107487596
>Can you still use it as a regular computer or is it all games all the time and nothing else?
Nah it's fine either way
>What exactly does immutable mean and is it stable?
It just means it's locking certain parts of it so you can't fuck it up, file system is read only, everything is sandboxed (flatpaks/appimages). Snapshots are pre-installed so every time you update it keeps a backup to roll back to in case anything happens
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Ok, I got indentation and differential coloring down on Vim. What do I need in order to get to function and variable declarations on Vim?
I understand I can just look up /variable or /function to find all results on the same file, but what would I need to find, say, function parameters for a function declared on a separate header file?
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>>107487795
>What do I need in order to get to function and variable declarations on Vim?
Ctags?
Or if you're fancy Clangd:
https://github.com/clangd/clangd
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>>107487121
Then use a fucking remote add on or learn the keyboard shortcuts.

How fucking dumb can you be?
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Got an Acer Aspire 3 for work. What Linoox should I slap onto it?
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>>107487121
Literally just change the theme to something with big mouse click targets.
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>>107487873
Or do:
>>107487862

There's an official remote application for Android and iOS. You just have to enable the built-in RPC server.
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>>107487342
You retard. Do not use Nvidia with Linux despite what any fanboy will tell you. It's not worth the hassle. Swap out the video card to an AMD card
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>>107487872
Either NIGGIX or Debian.
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>>107487881
Translation for original Kodi retard: you could control Kodi using your smartphone with a related remote-like GUI app.

Personally, I would rather just get a USB remote in this case cause that is way more comfy for watching movies.
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>>107487872
It's not about which distro you choose. It's about what you use it for.
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>>107487905
gooning to tranny porn with my bros.
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>>107487884
Maybe on my next PC but I'll stick with what I have thanks. I wanted to try out the best consumer card for once.
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>>107487901
>>107487873
>>107487862
I am just asking if someone knows a file browser that has elements like Kodi does for fetching information about what's in folders it, stop sperging out.
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Why aren't there any distros based on NON-LTS Ubuntu? All the Ubuntu-based distros are based on ancient LTS versions and they suck. A de-Snapped fork of non-LTS Kubuntu would be perfect for me.
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>>107478400
Bazzite isn't a bad choice probably, it's basically just SteamOS but more generic. But CachyOS is better because it lets you install custom packages and make changes to the system. Bazzite is an "immutable" OS, like SteamOS. Virtually impossible to break... because you can't change the system configuration. Will that matter to you? Perhaps not, it depends.

I know it seems like a confusing clusterfuck, so here's a rough guide
>Mint, Ubuntu, Zorin
All based on the same source (Debian) and they prioritize stability and backward compatibility. Debian = old, but stable and well tested software. They're not going to include recent Nvidia packages so avoid if you're a gamer
>SteamOS, Bazzite
Immutable OS based on Arch (which has access to more recent packages) preconfigured with game-ready drivers and Nvidia shit. Good for people who want access to more leading edge/niche packages
>CachyOS
Same as the previous two, but not immutable
>Other distros
probably not for you
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>>107488101
>Why aren't there any distros based on NON-LTS Ubuntu?
Because Ubuntu is a terrible base to build off of. There's more Debian spins than Ubuntu derivatives.
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>>107488120
>>107478400
Bazzite works but I consider it bloated due to its reliance on Flatpaks.
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>>107478352
im on cachyos (arch derived) w/ a 4070 and haven't had any issues playing games.
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im a recent meme convert to cachyos/hyprland, im not having any issues (except for copy and paste and electron apps which i just stopped using for the most part and switched to better software).
is the x11/wayland thing a complete meme or is there something actually bad about it. 0 issues gaming w/ nvidia and performance seemed like the same it was on windows.
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>>107488120
>>107478400
bazzite is not based on arch and doesn't get the benefits from steam afaik i have no idea why people recommend it like it is
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>>107488147
>bloated due to its reliance on Flatpaks
most people don't care and it doesn't matter.
>>107488191
It's based on Fedora and stable. It just werks.
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>>107488197
>most people don't care
People are leaving Windows in the first place because of bloat, lol
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>>107488204
Not just bloat, also the huge amounts of spyware. Flatpaks are still faster than windows.
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>>107488214
I still wouldn't recommend Bazzite to noobs because you can't really download programs from your web browser on immutable distros. RPM installers just don't work on Bazzite and offline Flatpak installers are rare.
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are there people here who deliberately only use the command line and text only browsers
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anyone experienced with slackpkg
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>>107488277
Really? Wow that's a big downside.
>>107488278
Yes people use tiling window managers too which are retarded.
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GNU Wget does not work with SOCKS or SOCKS5 proxy (unless you can prove me wrong). AI slop kinda screwed me by saying that wget does work with that. cURL works with SOCKS(5).

Anyone have experience using I2P in qBittorrent? Curious to know about that or try it myself (I currently use I2PSnark for anonymous torrent dl+ul). After you install I2P and run it, settings in qBittorrent to enable it:
>Tools > Options... > Connection > turn on "I2P (Experimental)" and maybe also "Mixed mode"
I think if you don't enable "Mixed mode" then that will keep .i2p torrents as .i2p-only and won't touch the clearnet.
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>>107487021
Hey guys check this out

#!/bin/bash

bar_size=60
counter=0
total=100

while [ $counter -lt $total ] ; do
# Increment a variable, for a real progress bar this is usually done elsewhere
counter=$(($counter+1))

# Calculate progress bar and percentage
bar_done=$(($bar_size*$counter/$total))
percentage=$((100*$counter/$total))

# Spinny guy
case $spinner in
'-') spinner='\' ;;
'\') spinner='|' ;;
'|') spinner='/' ;;
'/') spinner='-' ;;
*) spinner='-' ;;
esac

# Print the progress bar with a spinner
printf "\r[%-${bar_size}s] ${percentage}%% [$spinner]" "$(printf "%${bar_done}s" | tr " " "#" )"

sleep 0.1
done
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>>107488389
whoops, did not mean to reply to 107487021, please ignore
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>>107486092
I get that you want to do password cracking at scale with vintage office computers, but you need to accept that the limitations will be severe.
As for the GPU power, I have never heard of a separate PSU being used for this and my suspicion would be a ground loop or similar electrical issue.
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>>107487099
>>107487862
You clowns should learn to read.
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I'm trying to connect to a Japanese VPN server, but nmcli fail with seemingly everything in VPN Gate. Is this normal and I should just keep trying until I find a server that works? I'm almost giving up.
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>>107488101
Use the latest Kubuntu, snaps aren't an issue at all.
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>>107488278
I unironically would only use lynx if I could function to the degree I need to while doing so, but the javascript scourge fucks it. Some authority should have enforced text only usability in all websites back in the early 00s. You should be able to use banks and brokerages with nothing but lynx.

FUCK
THIS
GAY
EARTH
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>>107487972
You deserve what you get then. I don't feel bad since you know better.
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>>107488457
What distro do you recommend for somebody who considers Snaps a dealbreaker?
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>>107488091
No Anon, separate Anon here, you're a retard for not learning the keyboard shortcuts or changing the theme or getting a remote device
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>>107488327
Was trying to use "tsocks wget [url]" but got an error
>https://tsocks.sourceforge.net/
>https://man.archlinux.org/man/tsocks.conf.5
>06:55:16 libtsocks(2991532): SOCKS server 13.55.55.66 (13.55.55.66) is not on a local subnet!

I read the man page for "tsocks" and it was useless (same with "info tsocks"). Didn't tell me what I wanted to know. I want to use a remote IP address as the SOCK5 proxy, not one I'm running myself at some local/LAN IP address. Is that so much to ask?
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>>107488278
Yeah why not? Everything can be perceived as text, way faster on shittier machines. If you don't get it, get a Mac, faggot
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>>107488431
Retard Kodi users lose again. Should have just used mpv
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>>107488445
Just use Wireguard or pay for Mullvad. It's like $5
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>>107488488
No, I could not have known because that linux just shits itself with the 5090 drivers, because the only info out without trying it for myself would be to read random r*ddit posts saying "it werks for me".
But now I don't want to give up 16gb of vram for what AMD has to offer, and if linux devs can't make their distros work with popular gpus that have been out for about a year now, within the next year or two, then maybe they really aren't so much better than shitty wangblow pajeet devs.
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>>107488278
Wish it was easier to do that. Can maybe use w3m (better than lynx?) and fill out a 4chan captcha and make a post...

>>107488466
>Some authority should have enforced text only usability in all websites back in the early 00s
Yeah I dislike JS too. Should have been more government interference, LOL. If your websites are JavaScript only or use too much JS then you get a fine proportional to your income or wealth. Minimum fine price is 20 USD.

>>107476919 (previous thread)
>I bet there's some mpv or vlc app for Android (maybe even one that works in Termux). Then you could watch MKV files containing H265, wouldn't have to have web-playable .mp4 or .webm to watch in a browser.
You can install mpv in Termux (Linux CLI with package manager for Android) and play an .mp4 but it's audio-only.
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>>107488466
Yeah but just use a burner Android phone for this kind of retarded workaround. Nothing can be done about modern banking. They want you tied to the grid, Goyim
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>>107488534
Again retard, don't use Nvidia. Use AMD and save yourself the hassle. It's not worth it. At least you now know for next time.

You're also dumb if you don't think I encountered the same shit about a year or two ago. The driver compatibility is fucking terrible, not worth the literal energy drain in time spent.

Just... Get.... An...AMD

FUCK
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>>107488538
You could also use caca settings to view the mpv video in terminal:

mpv --vo=caca <path_to_video_file>
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>>107488552
What if I want to use DaVinci Resolve? DaVinci Helper makes it work with AMD, but that's only on Fedora.
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>>107488510
>I want to use a remote IP address as the SOCK5 proxy, not one I'm running myself at some local/LAN IP address. Is that so much to ask?
Use socat to listen on a local address and proxy to the remote address.
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>>107488510
Wish that torsocks worked with non-Tor stuff, unless I'm doing it wrong:
>TZ=UTC torsocks --user user --pass pass --address 11.57.22.11 --port 8080 wget -O- https://checkip.amazonaws.com # failed: Non-recoverable failure in name resolution.

>>107488538
w3m also doesn't work with JS:
>w3m is a text based browser which can display local or remote web pages as well as other documents. It is able to process HTML tables and frames but it ignores JavaScript and Cascading Style Sheets. w3m can also serve as a pager for text files named as arguments or passed on standard input, and as a general purpose directory browser. --man w3m

>>107488581
Android, Termux: no error/warning messages but no video in the terminal

Arch Linux, Konsole:
>$ mpv --vo=caca /home/user/Downloads/noaudio_download.mp4
> Video --vid=1 (h264 576x1024 30 fps) [default]
>File tags:\ Comment: vid:v12044gd0000codjtjvog65kqsjd2lu0
>[vo] Video output caca not found!
>Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (--vo) device.
>Video: no video
>No video or audio streams selected.
>Exiting... [...]
Guess I don't have something installed for that to work.
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>>107488552
and what if you dont have the option to use AMD for whatever reason but want to escape the sinking ship
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>>107488697
Then buy Intel
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>>107488510
tunneling via ssh forwarding:
ssh -f -N -D <any-port>(1080) <any-host-you-can-ssh-to>

now configure your local software to use SOCKS5 via the address 127.0.0.1 with the port you used. Look up SSH forwarding
Get rid of the SSH process once you're done
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>>107488627
I tried like 6 different socat commands, such as
>$ socat --experimental TCP4-LISTEN:1080,reuseaddr,fork SOCKS5-CONNECT:11.57.22.11:1080:127.0.0.1:8085
>https://serverfault.com/questions/1162579/is-it-possible-to-forward-ports-between-two-servers-using-socat-and-socks5-proxy
They all didn't work. I'll research/read more and maybe will figure it out.

wget error:
>$ TZ=UTC tsocks wget -O- https://checkip.amazonaws.com
>[...]Connecting to checkip.amazonaws.com (checkip.amazonaws.com)|54.236.225.22|:443... failed: Transport endpoint is not connected.
socat error:
>2025/12/09 08:06:02 socat[3028910] W SOCKS5 authentication negotiation failed - client & server have no common supported methods
>2025/12/09 08:06:02 socat[3028910] E SOCKS5-CONNECT:11.57.22.11:1080: Connection failed
Contents of /etc/tsocks.conf:
>server = 127.0.0.1
>server_port = 1080
>server_type = 5
>default_user = "username1"
>default_pass = "password1"

>>107488703
I can't ssh in to the remote socks5 ip address; if that's not a necessity, then what you suggest may work for me. I can ssh into multiple local computers/hosts.
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Hello, just switched from Hyper-V to QEMU KVM. Why am I missing 8GB?
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Is there a single decent ffmpeg gui for Android?
Everything on f-droid is trash and everything on the play store is sketchy as fuck. I'm hoping there's some secret github somewhere with the magic apk I'm looking for.
I'd be using it pretty much exclusively to make webms that fit on here so I wouldn't be doing anything crazy, no power user stuff just simple compression and conversion.
I could use Termux and raw dog the commands but that's a last resort.
I'm asking you guys because /spg/ is nothing but consoomer hardware dick waving and /sqt/ give worse advice than yahoo answers god bless em.
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>>107487353
>Is the KDE "krash" meme real
It was during KDE 4 and very early KDE 5. Especially on Kubuntu, which was the most popular KDE distro back then. Mainly because there's a mismatch between KDE releases and Ubuntu releases, and the LTS version of KDE wasn't maintained well.
>Kubuntu looks interesting for me.
Kubuntu is probably the worst implementation of KDE and one of the reasons why "Krashes" is as popular as it is. If you want KDE go for Aurora, Kinoite or Fedora KDE.

>>107487596
>Can you still use it as a regular computer
Yes. "Game mode" is a separate install image and it supports logging out to desktop.
>What exactly does immutable mean
It's the same as Android where it has A/B system partitions. So you need to reboot your PC for system updates/changes to apply, just like Android, macOS or Windows. It's nothing relevant for most users.
>is it stable
Yes.

>>107488204
>People are leaving Windows in the first place because of bloat
Incorrect. They're leaving Windows because of either spyware, ads or lack of control.
"Bloat" is something that absolutely nobody cares about. You know how you can tell?
1. All other major operating systems work with packages in a "bloated" way. There's no better way to ensure backward/forward compatibility.
2. WINE/Proton works the same way Flatpak does. A separate 500MB Windows-like environment is made for each WINE/Proton version you have installed. Sometimes there's a separate one for each individual game, which is even worse than Flatpak runtimes.
3. Almost everyone is fine with Electron apps existing.
4. Windows and Android are the most popular OSs despite their "bloat".
Storage is cheap. All your installed Flatpaks combined will maybe consume an extra 20-30 GB which is $2 worth of storage.

>>107488277
Appimages work fine and are increasingly more common than getting a .deb/.rpm package. Also, you can still install rpm packages inside a distrobox, that's why Bazzite ships with a GUI for it.
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>>107488815
Now I'm not getting any socat errors, but am instead getting errors with the other things.

Format where DESTINATION_HOST and DESTINATION_PORT can be localhost:1085 (127.0.0.1:1085):
>socat --experimental TCP4-LISTEN:<LOCAL_PORT>,reuseaddr,fork SOCKS5-CONNECT:<REMOTE_SOCKS_SERVER>:<REMOTE_SOCKS_PORT>:<DESTINATION_HOST>:<DESTINATION_PORT>
Command:
>$ socat --experimental TCP4-LISTEN:1080,reuseaddr,fork SOCKS5-CONNECT:11.57.22.13:1085:127.0.0.1:1085
Contents of tsocks.conf:
>server = 127.0.0.1
>server_port = 1085
>[ remaining lines = same as >>107488815 ]
wget/libtsocks error:
>$ TZ=UTC tsocks wget -O- https://checkip.amazonaws.com
>[...]Connecting to checkip.amazonaws.com (checkip.amazonaws.com)|52.20.56.176|:443... 08:53:16 libtsocks(3053705): Error 111 attempting to connect to SOCKS server (Connection refused)
>failed: Connection refused.
>[same error message 7 more times]
Meanwhile, cURL just works:
>curl -x socks5://$string https://checkip.amazonaws.com
But I want to use Wget and not curl.

>>107488703
>tunneling via ssh forwarding: [command]
Done: "ssh -f -N -D 1080 user@10.0.0.204"

>now configure your local software to use SOCKS5 via the address 127.0.0.1 with the port you used
Done?: tsocks.conf contains "server = 127.0.0.1" and "server_port = 1080"

>Look up SSH forwarding
I ran this and it failed
>$ ssh -f -L 127.0.0.1:1080:11.57.22.12:1080 user@10.0.0.204
>Cannot fork into background without a command to execute.

Feeling like your post is saying that I have to be able to ssh into the remote host.
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>>107488652
>>107489125
Im on qubes so it's not technically Linux but oh my GOD it really makes these proxy setups a dream to manage like it's built for all that. I'm not going to go into too much detail because it's too boring for this thread but damn I fall more in love with this OS every day
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>>107489172
okay I will say, basically it just makes it very easy to set up VMs which are solely meant to route traffic from other VMs (aka other 'qubes') through I2P (or Tor? or VPN? It's your choice) while blocking everything else. It's like not even half as involved as the shit you guys are doing, while being way more secure and leak proof since the torrenting software (if you do all this correctly) literally CANNOT do a discovery of your real IP even if it gets root privileges and exploits the linux kernel it's running on
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>>107487353
The krash meme is just being shilled by one samefagging Indian butthurt that his OLPC can only handle LXDE. Pay him no mind.
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>>107488534
>I could not have known because that linux just shits itself with the 5090 drivers, because the only info out without trying it for myself would be to read random r*ddit posts saying "it werks for me".
So we need to spread the gospel of Nvidia = suck even harder!
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Someone here recommended me to use an irc bouncer like znc on my vps, when I simply could've used tmux + irc client of choice on my vps for persisent connection.

I mean, why would I need a bouncer if all I do is ssh into my vps from my laptop? I don't use any other device, thus a bouncer would be of waste.
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>>107488552
>foams in the mouth at the idea of someone buying a brand he doesn't like
>calls others fanboys
pottery
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How do you learn to make stuff like this? Is there a guide somewhere?
I'm bored with transparent windows, cyberpunk and aero frutiger tranny themes and I want to contribute to adding more alternatives out there.
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Can I force Davinci Resolve to use a custom Qt stylesheet or something? I HATE DARK THEMES I HATE DARK THEMES I HATE DARK THEMES I HATE DARK THEMES I HATE DARK THEMES
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>>107489696
Probably not because it likely bundles its own Qt instead of using the system Qt.
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>>107488582
>>107488534
I think the best distro in terms of Nvidia support for Davinci Resolve is AlmaLinux 9. It has the open driver on its own repo, precompiled kmods from Nvidia's repo or ELrepo, you can lock in specific driver branches, etc.
Fedora updates kernels a lot and is pretty much limited to the latest branch and DKMS off RPMfusion, which often leads to a variety of problems.
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>>107489682
There are two components to this:
First is the GTK theme (or Qt theme for Qt apps), which determines the appearance of almost everything inside the window, including buttons, menus, items, panels, etc...
GTK and Qt themes are mostly independent of window managers. The main problem here is that you have to choose one, or make a separate theme for both.

The second component is the window manager theme, i.e. window decorations. This determines the appearance of the window borders, title, buttons window borders, etc...
This is window manager specific and would require you to learn how your window manager works to design one.

I'm sure there are many tools out there to design GTK and Qt themes, this is one of them for example:
https://github.com/themix-project/themix-gui

As for designing a window manager theme, that is highly dependent on your window manager and you would probably need to read the documentation of your window manager for this one.
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>>107489769
Why not AlmaLinux 10? and is it ok for gaming?
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>>107489799
>>107489769
>using an entire distro just for one application
take the container/podman/distrobox pill
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>>107489799
>Why not AlmaLinux 10?
Each new release of Enterprise Linux tends to lag behind for maybe a couple of years in terms of availability of certain non-enterprise packages. Alma 9 is the last release to support Xorg, which is good to have in Nvidia environments. Davinci Resolve might also not have fully embraced 10 yet. tl;dr - it's a long term support distro where each release gets better over time, not meant to be updooted as soon as a new one comes out.

>and is it ok for gaming?
It runs Steam/Proton and Lutris/Wine, so yeah. Unless you need the latest kernel optimisations for last month's slop, in which case stick with Fedora or Arch.

>>107489889
That's not what I'm suggesting at all.
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How do you guys clean your /var directory? I find that sometimes apt fails to remove some stuff from there after purging packages, especially in /var/lib
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Can you really call your Linux setup secure if you're not running SELinux or AppArmor?
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>>107478352
I'm on a 4080 on arch and have zero issues
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>>107490086
The only "secure" normal desktop distro is secureblue
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>>107487425
BASED Nobara user

I'm using it too about 1.5years without any dualboot or any other mimic things. It just works.
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>>107490086
>Can you really call your Linux setup secure if you're not running SELinux or AppArmor?

don't trust, verify
https://cisofy.com/lynis/
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>>107490459
>It just works
Except package management sucks cock on it
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>>107490086
If all you have exposed to the internet is postfix and dovecot, it's pretty secure. Fancy permission systems are nice, but nothing beats good design + validation.
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What are the good distros for generating AIslop?
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has anyone here had any issues gaming on a window manager?
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>>107490562
Arch makes the most sense to use the latest versions of local UIs on.
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>>107481524
anon is pissed that there's an option to configure lossless scaling, a paid program, because fuck options amirite
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>>107490624
And if you're not autistic enough for Arch?
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>>107490776
Then use Endeavour or Cachy
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>>107488552
Hey man I get you're just trying to give me advice, but I want to stick with what I have. Thanks anyways.
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>>107490573
None. I use nothing but Openbox and play games every day without the slightest issue. You might have some kind of trouble with goymes but I don't know anything about those except what they are (goymes). You don't get played by goymes, do you son?
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>>107490918
Holy shit what is that ugly abomination?
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strace: Process 2661 attached
futex_waitv([{val=0, uaddr=0x7f5fd3161470, flags=FUTEX2_SIZE_U32}], 1, 0, NULL, CLOCK_REALTIME

Does this mean anything to anyone here?
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>>107490573
Works fine for me on IceWM, the default keybinds are not really something you press accidentally while playing but you can always remap them or disable them temporarily
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>>107490562
they're all the same
arch ones are usually best since they offer cuda in the repos too
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im getting kind of sick of having to build 90% of packages myself on opensuse. debian chads, lmde chads hows the grass on your side of the fence?
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>>107493034
THE
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>>107484610
It's looking like CachyOS is my best option then
I'm gonna sit on SteamOS for a bit and see if I can get used to it (had a problem last night where I couldn't unzip a .rar files and unrar in the terminal wouldn't even work), but I'm sure 90% of my needs can be fulfiled by the Discover store.
>>107485016
Yes, but I'd really like it to have 'Steam Gaming Mode' out of the box for my handheld and that's about it, because I can't find a good guide for putting it together yourself and it seems like a pain
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>gnome boxes
>still gtk3
>everything else is on gtk4
Catch the fuck up you retards
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>>107493034
>building packages
just download an atomic distro and run anything that isn't available on flathub through a container
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>>107493034
I thought OpenSUSE has a build service which builds tons of stuff, including experimental packages

Anyway I'm a Debian/Ubuntu user and yeah they're fine for my use. I don't play the latest games so I don't need bleeding edge packages.
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>>107493530
They do and anyone can use it. They were doing package clouds like GitHub actions, etc, do, before it was cool.
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>>107493268
I'd say your best option is Bazzite since CachyOS is much less stable long term. It's significantly less "set it up and forget it". So, compared to Bazzite and SteamOS which "maintain themselves" it won't be uncommon for you to have to drop to the CachyOS desktop mode or the terminal to unfuck some system update.
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>>107493711
So why does that guy say he has to build packages on OpenSUSE. Maybe he is lying.
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>>107493756
He probably doesn't know how to use it (or GitHub Actions, etc). You can always get someone else to build it for you and then just install the deb or rpm they built. It's a skill issue.
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>>107493034
>hows the grass on your side of the fence?
Been on Debian for about 5 years now, and know the ins outs of it. I never had to build any packages except for suckless.org stuff.
If you decide to install Debian the first package you should install should be nala.
Debian repos are very rich, and if you ever need more then there's always flatpaks/snaps/distrobox/... etc.
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Anyone know how to get this dogshit kernel to include my fucking key? If I provide an incomplete key the kernel build fails, so clearly it's able to see that the key is valid. It also signs the kernels with the key properly when I run make modules_install.
Alpine Linux if that matters. I had to install the separate kmod package to allow it to generate the module dependencies correctly, so I don't know if I'm just fucking missing something that's silently fucking everything up again.
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>>107494189
Do not compile your kernel as root
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>>107494252
I'm pretty sure that's not what the issue is. I made the key 4k and it's working, for some reason nobody bothered to test with larger keys.
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>>107494690
It's probably not but you're one accidental rm -rf in a build-script away from disaster. Certainly none of the developers test building the kernel as root.
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I've got this memory leak issue with Kdenlive. It absorbs all memory in minutes just by booting the program.
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libexec/kf6/kioworker /usr/lib/plugins/kf6/kio/thumbnail.so thumbnail local:/run/user/1000/kdenliveGfIrBg.26.kioworker.socket
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>yet another program I can't use on Linux
I really really want for Linux to be good and ditch windows 10 once and for all, but seriously, you guys have to stop allying with autistic trannies and make an OS that just works.

Using Linux is death by a thousand cuts and many of the programs I need aren't even available on Linux or have compatibility problems.

I'm really hoping that valve fixes this or something, but come on guys, you had like 20 years, stop making diestros that work for a specific niche and nothing else and do something that just works.

Fucking Bill gates can somehow handle it, you can't be worse than bill gates.
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>>107495227
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>>107495227
lel install gentoo
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>>107494848
Profile it and then send a report to the developers.
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>>107495227
>doesnt even mention program
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Does anyone know how to install the nvidia drivers for RTX 5050? I tried pretty much every google advice and nothing seems to work.
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>>107495292
pacman -S nvidia
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>>107495292
Forgot to mention that I'm on openSUSE Leap 15.5
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>>107495304
>>107495307
And also this is a very specific problem because it's a newer graphics card, the previous one I had didn't have that problem. Some say that you need the open drivers which I found through the yast program but maybe it's something else.
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>>107495307
>OpenSUSE with NVIDIA
Good luck with that.
https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_drivers

At least you're not using Tumbleweed so you should in theory have a better time with them on Leap (if you can get them installed at least)
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>>107495335
>open that
what the fuck is a zypper
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>>107495335
The problem is that it's a new model, didn't have the same problem with the older video card.>>107495330
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>>107495340
SUSE's equivalent to Dnf. It's their package manager frontend that resolves RPM dependencies.
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>>107495341
Just try the open driver and if that doesn't work then whatever the latest version of the proprietary is and if it still doesn't work then it's NVIDIA's issue.
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>>107495374
>Just try the open driver
How do I do that? There were such in the yast program like I said already but they made no difference at all. I'm stuck on the 800x600 and it's really frustrating. Do you think upgrading to Leap 16 would fix that? The reason I stay on this version is that many of the programs are not supported on the new one for some bizarre reason,
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>>107495392
The wiki explains it:
Add the repos and then:
zypper in nvidia-open-driver-G06-signed-kmp-meta
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>>107495413
>No provider of 'nvidia-open-driver-G06-signed-kmp-meta' found.
Even after adding the supposed repositories.
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>>107495440
I guess the instructions are outdated then. Ask on an OpenSUSE forum somewhere.

You could also try the automated installer:
>To auto-detect and install the right driver for your hardware, run
# zypper install-new-recommends
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>>107495466
Did that already. Also installed kmp such drivers for yast.
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>>107495227
skill issue.
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>>107491009
The raw, organic, wild creativity of the pre-2000 UNIX/Linux devs looks ugly to the mind whose synapses have been overtaken by nanonigs. You literally lack the neural pathways to see, much less understand, the astounding levels beauty of what you're looking at. Your nanonig mind requires manufactured plastic pseudo-perfection.

RETHINK
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>started the fedora installer
>shit errors out right at the very end
>go "oh fuck, guess ill install arch instead"
>reboot
>it boots into a working fedora install anyway
redhat ftw??? im sure some random ass config file is broken though.
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>>107495586
>fedora
>arch
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>>107495227
If you need windows programs, then you need windows programs. I don't know what to tell you other than your life sucks and I'm glad I'm not you.
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>>107494189
Apparently only 4096 bit keys work, some undergrad stuck their half-baked code into it and nobody bothered testing it I guess.
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>>107488534
Output of nvidia-smi?
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>>107495607
look i got told that debian uses 550.x drivers for nvidia and i remember those running like shit for me back when i was still on them like a year ago. ill probably switch over to debian whenever they get 570.x/580.x baseline
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It's impossible or hard to get SOCKS5 proxy working with GNU Wget because tsocks is stupid or something. See >>107489125

So then, how do I get such a proxy to work in Chrome's settings?

I remember using Windows+Firefox like 10 years ago and you just went into the browser's settings and put in the IP+port and bam you were done. Proxy would work. I went to
>brave://settings/?search=proxy
and it only showed:
>brave://linux-proxy-config/
which says:
>When running Brave under a supported desktop environment, the system proxy settings will be used. However, either your system is not supported or there was a problem launching your system configuration.
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>But you can still configure via the command line. Please see man brave for more information on flags and environment variables.
but then I get these errors when running "man brave", "brave --help", and "man brave-browser":
>No manual entry for brave
>No manual entry for brave-browser

>>107489125
>TZ=UTC tsocks wget -O- $url
Connection refused on https://checkip.amazonaws.com and like every other website. Weird thing is that if url=https://google.com/ then it worked with no errors.
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>>107495820
Brave has a built-in tor proxy, just use that.
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>>107495955
Everyone uses Tor as proxy, so most IPs will be already-used-up or blocked for stuff I'm doing. Daily usage limit and so on. I can use I2P outproxies, but those don't work so well and only occasionally work in my experience. Dunno if Lokinet works anymore; I did use Lokinet exit nodes in the past, then they stopped working.
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>>107488400
>I get that you want to do password cracking at scale with vintage office computers
I'd hardly call it vintage. These are from 2018 and are using i7 7700's that can maintain a boost clock of 4.2 GHz indefinitely.

>As for the GPU power, I have never heard of a separate PSU being used for this and my suspicion would be a ground loop or similar electrical issue.
What do you mean by a ground loop? To be honest I'm kind of surprised this works at all but I looked it up and it's totally a thing you can do. They even make special boards that you plug a SATA or PCIe cable into from the primary and the main board connector to from the secondary so the main PSU triggers the second one to turn on automatically in a master/slave configuration. The one I'm using doesn't have the big 24pin connector (its a fully modular PSU) and just has a switch you flip to turn it on so I didn't even need to short the enable pin to ground to turn it on.

When I was running it on windows like this, gpuz would give me the power draw coming from the PCIe slot, the 6pin PCIe connector, and the 8pin PCIe connector separately when I was using the datacenter driver. It pulled about 30-40% from the pcie slot, about 50% from the 8pin connector, and the rest from the 6pin. Incidentally, the clock speed was the same in windows as well.

Also in case it might make any difference, I'm also running a GT 730 in one of the other slots and its frequency measurement is all jacked up (showing a tremendously large negative number or zero) I would remove it to see if that fixes it but last time I checked doing that broke my x server (again).
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Just so you know, I had Debian testing with Xfce on a T430 and it started having issues with pulseaudio and display management that I couldn't resolve, so I installed Kubuntu 25.10 and this is a very nice experience. I haven't ever used KDE for more than trying it out on a live distro and I'm finding it very pleasant! I like the work they're doing with this DE!
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>>107496119
>started having issues with pulseaudio and display management that I couldn't resolve
The solution would've been to remove pulseaudio and install pipewire-audio, as for display management I'm not sure what you mean.
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>>107496119
Nice, I use the same release with no issues.
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>>107495586
If it works, it's probably fine. If something is malfunctioning, an update will probably fix it within a few days.
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>>107495227
i had this happen with some vsts i was used to and had spent money on but i decided it would be more interesting to just put together custom software for making music how I want, stop being a mindless consumer
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What's the point of running coreboot (formerly LinuxBIOS)? Then using something like SeaBIOS?
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>>107496708
He's using Puppy Linux, right?
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what's the verdict on using Flatpak for your internet browser?
is what i'm hearing about it weakening sandboxing true or just FUD?
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>>107497620
https://brave.com/linux/#flatpak
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1756236
https://librewolf.net/installation/linux/#security
https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/33411/flatpak-support/191
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>>107497636
so what's the best way of installing a browser on an atomic distro? (like Aurora, for example).
the pre-installed one is a Flatpak, and they (Ublue) warn against using rpm-ostree
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who actually uses mx linux? is it grandmas or what?
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>>107497853
The page on Distrowatch was 100% botted. No one actually uses it.
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>>107497853
People who hate systemd but don't want to be tinker trannies
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>>107497853
the mx stands for mexico
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>>107495227
>bottles
>proton or lutris if it's vidya
>straight-up running windows in a virtual machine
There's a billion ways of fixing this anon, at least try some of them.
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>>107495730
On Fedora I can't even log in to type anything in the console, it gets stuck on a black screen right before the log in screen.
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>>107497783
Have you tried using their ujust scripts?
What about homebrow, does it have any browsers packaged?
It just seems like to me that those ublue retards are cretins.
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>>107495227
>I'm really hoping that valve fixes this or something
lmao confirmed retard, keep using Winblows
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>>107498081
Are you dual booting windows on the same drive? You probably need to edit your boot entry in grub to launch a shell at startup rather than the default startup routine (if you want a chance to save it), or boot from your installation media
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>>107498430
I didn't uninstall Mint, I got to the boot menu where it lets me select between fedora and mint. I didn't even have windows installed yet.

On Mint I was able to install 5.80 drivers (with more difficulty than it should) and nvidia-smi confirmed the driver was installed, though right now I can't be assed to log in to get the full output. Mint is incredibly buggy with that driver though, it disabled the wallpaper so the background is all black, I alt-tabbed out of a game and it crashes the display, multi-monitor wasn't stable, that type of stuff. Then I tried fedora and if I select it from the boot menu it doesn't even get to the login screen.
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>>107497853
nobody, it's just shilled non stop
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>UNIX offers two commands for removing a directory, rmdir and rm -r (compare the VMS command DELETE). The latter is one form of the rm (remove) command which is used to remove files (see Section 4.9). Like the VMS command DELETE, rmdir removes a directory only if it contains no files. The directory must be at the lowest level of the directory hierarchy before you can delete it, since only then will it contain no directory files. (English)
>page 79, "UNIX for VMS Users", ISBN-10 1-55558-034-3, publication date 1990, publisher Digital Equipment Corporation, author Philip E. Bourne, "368 pages"
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>>107499332
>quote from book published in 1990
rmdir is still part of Linux as seen by me running "man rmdir" today:
>rmdir - remove empty directories
>GNU coreutils 9.7 April 2025 RMDIR(1)

The sentences after that in that book were sorta interesting: the "effective" vs. "devastating" part. That book in this one tranny-run deletionist site named Internet Archive:
https://archive.is/2025.12.10-055327/https://archive.org/search?query=1555580343
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>>107495227
have another (you)

you're right. the start is pain.
but once you found your niche programs for every use you have basically build a fortress that won't come down for decades.

when you start your journey i advice you to keep a txt file and note what you did to get certain things running. so if you ever have to start completely fresh, things will be much easier.
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>>107497620
FUD. There's still a sandbox in the form of Flatpak that is itself sandboxing the application its running. The only thing thats weakened is the browsers own sandbox, for example, things like chroot are nice to have but Flatpak limiting the available filesystems it can see and interact with largely already takes care of that. In short, you're not really missing out on much.
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They're unlike to get much better treatment there than here. /r/linux doesn't even allow support posts where as at least here you can scream into the void.
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Reddit has too many rules which is part of the reason that I dislike it and have basically never used it.
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Description of Endchan board /rulecuck/:
>Rulecuck Rules! My loyal subjects, you have come here seeking obedience to authority, and freedom from the chaos of freedom.
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>>107501549
This is too funny, the real reason the Japanese don't run Linux is because they don't speak English and IMEs like ibus and fcitx filter them (it doesn't help that situation is still in flux on Wayland with everything changing all of the time and not every application supports whatever the latest and greatest text input method protocol is).

Proton could probably run 90% of their erotic games without issue except the obscure stuff.
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>>107501579
>the real reason the Japanese don't run Linux is because they don't speak English
I think a significant percentage of Japanese (don't know the number) do speak English. It's a class in their schools. Spanish is a class in my country but people just forget everything years later, so language classes are kinda useless.
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>OS X
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAb6uS5E8-I
https://inv4.nadeko.net/watch?v=qAb6uS5E8-I
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>>107501620
They no English like I know French, which is to say it's all merde in practice.
Distros should really take localisation more seriously, at least the bigger ones. If you go to download Microcucks Windows from Japan there's a decent chance you probably end up downloading a localised .iso variant that's already in your language and has everything translated and input methods usable out-of-the-box, etc.
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Linux images which were too sexy to post ITT:
>https://web.archive.org/web/20221012160142/https://tech.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=1016
>https://web.archive.org/web/20221012160216/https://tech.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=896

BTW, fuck booru.org (don't trust them).

>>107501638
>Image limit reached [150]
I remember years ago there was some [s4s] thread where some anon made a thread and said "I'm going to make so many posts until 4chan dies". No image limit back then, I think, so hundreds of images were posted in that thread. Or at least hundreds/thousands of text-only posts.
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>>107501640
I know there's collaborative wiki-like projects for Linux localization. Maybe I'll contribute to that for various reasons, such as: I'm perhaps too unskilled to do more useful contributions like porting Linux drivers for hardware to *BSD. (Eh, that's old me talking; I probably won't contribute to localization, but maybe I'll try to do the drivers thing.)

>>107501638
>Image limit reached.
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>>107501686
Yeah, the documentation that does exist is really good and the people that contribute to it are really dedicated.
Still there is that perception that Linux is only for English speakers though. I think it comes from academia because you obviously use English there, you have no choice.

I think the Japanese, Chinese, etc, users that do use Linux are probably really smart people because of that, but it excludes all the people that just want to play video games or watch movies, etc.
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>>107500608
I don't want a niche, I need to use many programs, I can do that with windows 10. But windows 10 is ending, windows 11 is shit and with Linux I can't use the programs or something breaks.

I don't know why people say things on Linux work and in windows they don't (they are lying) it's the opposite. I need a computer that works, I don't want a broken pc that I have to be fixing each time, I don't have that much time neither I want to. I've never wasted much time with windows fixing problems, I don't want that either with Linux. But with Linux it seems it is a given, and when I complain about this, Linux people, instead of saying maybe we should improve stuff, they just don't care. And that's why they remain with that low proportion of users.

I'm hoping that with the switch to windows 11 there comes a competent company or group of people that decide to make things right once and for all. Maybe necessity will force to make a distro that actually works and that had normal, user usage and experience in mind.
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I'm not gonna start a journey, I don't want to waste time on computers, I have a life outside the pc and 4chan, I don't want to waste hours and hours to use a tool because people refuse to improve the user experience like in any other aspect of society, I will cope with windows 10 until someone makes a Linux OS that actually works. Every time you say X distro is easy for beginners and goof to use you are lying and I encounter a thousand problems.

Its true, it's always been true, Linux is free if your time has no value.
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>>107454160
>systemctl soft reboot
Nope, it's
systemctl soft-reboot



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