>>107487610
They couldn't come up with actual insults and the employed dude is a severe autist that doesn't know how to tell someone off? He should be getting shat on at work just as much, too.

I was testing some fiber runs today and came across something I haven't seen. Using my test kit, I got a good, low loss signal for one strand of fiber but absolutely no connectivity on the other one in the pair. Reversing the direction of the test (IE, swaping my source and tester), I got the same result, the same strand of fiber tested good but the other strand had no connectivity. The two switches that were connected, however, were functioning fine through the fiber, communicating between each other.

I couldn't check the config on the switches to determine if this was how things were supposed to be and the switches were configured like this on purpose or if it was some break in the cable people were making the best of. Can fiber transmit on a single strand like that, or is my testing methods just bad?

>>107487647
Second panel dude kinda hot

>>107487708
tester itself could be bad , tester could be too sensitive and says the fiber "fails" but just has little enough attenuation to still work, there are SFPs specifically for single fiber strands so probably there's ones that have the two ports but can be set to transmit over one (or switches like you say can be told "just treat your dual port sfp like a single port one")

>>107487708
>>107487734
Did you retards never even once pass your A+? You should be able to solve this. How did you even get hired?

>>107487777
My dad is friends with the CEO

>>107487708
furnigger post

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boss not giving me a raise because he thinks its a privilege to be able to work with computers

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goodnight /twg/

>>107487853
Negotiation is about leverage; "if you don't give me what I want, something that you don't like is going to happen." Namely, you leaving the company to go get paid more money. "I have an offer from XYZ. Are you willing to match it? If not, consider this my two-weeks notice." That's how you get a raise. It's not about convincing your boss that you "deserve" one.

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>>107487708
Get comptia certs before posting

>>107487708
>retarded furnigger who failed A+ comes back to grovel for help at his made-up """job"""
kek and lel

>>107487708
>Can fiber transmit on a single strand like that
No
Most likely that link was shutdown by the switch and they were communicating via a different one.

Saw enough shit for one day. Linksys took a .50 round and a couple of mechanical keyboards were destroyed in an ambush. The realization that I`m not invincible is slowly kicking in. But with a 9 volt, some detcord, and a couple of magnets attached to the steel mousepad I have in my plate carrier, I believe I will be able to create a sort of electromagnetic deflection field so my enemy`s fire will just curve around me. I`ve ran the raw data past the boys in yospos and so far we still have a green light. Hell, I`ve used wired mice as grappling hooks when tossed into the right nooks. Even if I’m caught I figure the boys in black will give me a job in some blacked out line of work and I will get my pension.

>>107487708
read A+ Net+ Sec+ you retarded jeet furry.

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>Boss comes from one of the tech cons he loves so much
>Starts ranting about AI as if it were a new god.
>Says he saw some panels about AI agents making queries and reports from text
>Wants us to do it too (inhouse)
How the fuck do I tell him in simple terms that he is vastly understimating the project and overstimating our capabilities?
How the fuck would that even work?
Writing up all the business logic behind the schema, the relationships, examples and trying to get the LLM to execute them? Really lost here and I am pretty sure it aint happening but I am wondering how would that even work.

>>107488100
maybe what he saw wasn't specifically an LLM chatbot (or at least, not just an LLM chatbot). "making queries and reports from text" sounds like it involves some kind of NLP or classification. hard to say for sure though

>>107488100
retarded normies think AI works like star trek replicators and you just go COMPUTER MAKE ME A PROGRAM and it yeets "save icons" full of data out at you

>>107488100
suck him off then tell exactly what you just said during reach around.

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>>107488100
beat the shit out of him and also bite him once or twice for his insolence

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>>107488226
Stop posting

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>>107488156
I am going to be honest with you bro but I dont know SHIT about AI other than writing more chapters of my cancelled futa loli incest erotica and sometimes reading the ai results from Google that are blatant lies most of the time.
My crazy average joe idea is
> Feed computer the schema, feed it very detailed descriptions of the schema, feed it overtly detailed business logic and then try to make it run queries based on text prompts and d ump them into an xlsx file.
Right now he just throws me an email and I try to write up whatever retarded fucking bullshit he came up with
>Work in company that manufactures, sells and ships its own stuff (textiles and furniture and minor metalworks)
>Simple codemonkey
>All the ERP have been built and rebuilt inhouse over 35 years.
>He comes up with random bullshit like "Get me the list of clients whose shipping addresses are around these random coordinates in circles with increasing 500 meters in radius and get me their purchasing history these past 5 years to see what kind of products they get so we can know if we are putting down a distribution center, storefront or a factory"

He legit wants to be able to speak to the machine like he does with his retarded fucking Alexa and get it to give him spreadsheets.
He is basically asking me to develop my replacement.
>>107488180
truthnvke. We had to convince him that his chatgpt couldnt just be plugged to our logistics and inventory balancing processes to make it "think" what to send and where to send SHIT.

I’m only a ‘tech’ worker because I spent my entire school years sitting at my computer playing games and so my above average knowledge of computers was the only marketable skill I had. I don’t have any particular interest or joy in this line of work. Thanks for reading.

>>107488370
Same feeling. All other paths pointed towards tech regardless of how interesting i thought some of those paths were.

>>107487647
the idea is that the wagie himself believes the insults to be true, and can't refute it without lying to himself. the image itself is a personified inner voice kind of hyperbole. being that autistic about a comic strip really just tells me you're often not honest with yourself either.

>>107487906
>inflated rice
Don't know why this made me laugh

Are project managers in support always shit

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i pivoted to teaching highschoolers english, french, korean, and basic compsci. it's alright.

i publish 2 books yearly and i'm also a vtuber with 2k subs playing looter shooter games like The Division 2, Duckov, pixel shit roguelites, and WWZ while talking about life and counseling.

https://pauljerimy.com/security-certification-roadmap/

techmonkeys be like
"yeaah waste your money and time on this bro"

>>107488965
>my money
>my time
I think you mean company money and company time

>>107488965
You really only need like 3-5 certs max. Its a meme but generally whatever the companies are looking for is what you should get. More importantly educationally it's better than any degree.

>>107488477
If it were up to me I'd be a NEET. I just have shit I need to pay for and the money helps

>>107488628
A good project manager will get the business and external clients off your back, they're worth their weight in gold. A shitty project manager is much worse than no project manager

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My time is running out at my current job is running out.
I almost quit first week but I managed to stick around for over 2 years.

I'm not sure what to do, I have job offers, but I am not particularly interested in any of them.

>>107488288
honestly it's pretty easy to get that talk to alexa and get spreadsheets shit. hire us and we'll make sure you stay employed

t. lead ai engineer

>>107487954
it's hard being on the front lines. AI went rogue today, killed 20 people. Ofc i touched one setting 3 months ago as part of code review so i get to go to the git blame trials. At least i'm full corporate now. I could probably wipe out a small town and get away with it outside of the paperwork

>>107487708
Maybe your switches are capable of falling back to half-duplex mode when it senses a fault?
What speed are the ports running at and what speed should they be running at?

I am in my current company in eastern europe, working for USA. Pay is good but I am burned out beyond belief. They even want to make me team lead but I can't look at code. I have around 150k USD saved and no mortgage and around 100 m2 flat (around 1000 feet), wondering if I should just fuck off for a sabbatical. I can't even look at code, yet the upper management thinks I am on my way to team lead/architect.

They are also pushing for AI and want me to teach it to the indian team which is a big no-no. Surpirsingly one of the jeets is very competent but his cohort of 5 other indians are raising incidents about literally made up scenarios that could never happen.

How do jeets get american jobs? How do I get one too?
I'm also a third worlder but I consider myself a pretty decent code monkey. I don't even want to move to the US, I just want to get paid in dollars

>>107490587
desu i think that door is pretty much closed for the next few years, the indians that got in are now going to be primarily hiring their friends & family

i was interested in moving to the US to work in tech a couple of years ago, but now it's much too late. i missed my chance to be a miillionaire by not being born 5 years earlier. instead now i have a cushy euro tech job where no one really expects me to work hard or at all really

>>107490587
The system is just a random lottery so indian IT companies spam 1 billion fake resumes
Each individual jeet isn't likely to get a visa but the visa winners are more likely to be jeets

>>107490521
Good news, Team Leads don't code - they sit in meetings and write planning documents and delegate coding to the monkeys.

>>107490587
One of the semi-competent ones (usually competent at kissing ass, sucking up, and getting promoted) gets a management position, then replaces his department with members of his clan for more clout.

>>107490820
5 of them are like the same output of a half competent intern. Its painful to interact with these brain dead jeets.

Should I throw everyone under the bus when quitting?

>>107490804
>Good news, Team Leads don't code - they sit in meetings and write planning documents and delegate coding to the monkeys.

My team lead still codes and does code reviews but he will move to management soon. He wants me to be the successor but I really don't have the heart to tell him I can even look at code or product. But the job market is fucked beyond belief even in outsourcing in eastern europe.

Ubisoft (yeah, yeah I know) has a company here and wants server backend developers but I have to swallow 50% paycut if I want to work somewhere interesting which I don't want.

Few gamblind mobile games also have offices but it is office only and there are a lot of people waiting for you to beat you up because they lost and think it is the deveoper's fault (the money is great to be fair - around 12k euro per month after taxes)

>>107488664
>i'm also a vtuber with 2k subs playing looter shooter games

That doesn't actually make you money does it? My girlfriend really wants to try being a vtuber, but I'm trying to convince her she shouldn't be hoping for it to be more than a hobby, cause I assume the field is way too saturated for it being viable as a career.

She doesn't have some inbuilt audience on social media or anything. She's just a girl who like vidya and has a cute accent, which I assume can be a boon for a vtuber.

Also, did you make your own avatar or have it done by a professional?

>>107490908
At least your cost of living is still quite cheap in Eastern Europe
UK's job market has collapsed, inflation has been running away, and the already shit salaries are regressing (thanks to our first Indian PM issuing 100,000 work visas to fellow cheating jeets)

>>107490959
>At least your cost of living is still quite cheap in Eastern Europe
The cost is rising way too fast here as well. Especially housing. I bought my flat in the capital in a good neighborhood for 850 euroes per m2 in 2018. Now it is 4200 euros. And the median salary in the capital is around 1200 euros. This is insane. We already have 40 year old mortgages

>>107487874
This.

>>107490587
fuck off. we're full.

>>107490905
I'll state the obvious: depends.
will you use them as your reference in the future? if so, then no.
did you already get another job? if so, you can throw them under the bus.

>>107491099
Who's buying up the property, chinks or poojeets?

>>107491161
>Who's buying up the property, chinks or poojeets?
Corrupt politicians. Basically 20% of the properties in the capital are empty because they are too expensive and the politicans are using them to launder money so lol good luck.

I though I had money, after seeing the prices of property this year I felt poor. I get around 9k euro after taxes and feel quite okay (especially after breakup with gf, no more bullshit costs each month). I don't tell people I am in software dev, tell them I am an accountant and I drive Skoda so it is not stolen. Only idiots buy BMW as it will be stolen within an year

>>107489409
>You really only need like 3-5 certs max
if you manage to get your foot in the door you can get employed on experience alone with zero certs
t. have zero certs and am employed

You guys hate those who went to business school?

>>107490804
Good team leads still code, if you don't code at all and just review shit then your project is bound to be a clusterfuck, unless that's the plan.

>>107487874
more importantly, you need to be willing to actually quit if they call your bluff.

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>>107487647
That's because being employed sucks nigger dick, having a job to support yourself is fucking lame. You don't really see billionaires going to work and showing up at 9, do you? They ain't gotta do shit, they just sit, fuck bitches and get money without raising a finger while the working dude earns him money like a good goy cattle.

>>107491210
If I was you I'd buy a 10+ year old bmw
You get quality and it isn't stolen

>>107491161
Blackrock.

>>107491325
Bruh, nobody buys new BMWs in eastern europe, wtf are you talking about. Everything is second hand and still will be stolen. My Skoda is 50k, comfortable for me and brand new with no issues and 10 year warranty.

And btw the 10 year BMW will still be stolen. Eastern european care about brand way way more than if it is 20 year old wreck. If it is a brand new skoda that has better stuff and more horsepower than some old (15+ years) BMW, they will still think the BMW is better. That is the way of life. Some of you people have no idea what you are talking about like that anon that thinks Blackrock comes to Balkans(where I am from)

>>107491361
>like that anon that thinks Blackrock comes to Balkans
Oh really? You can't prove that it's not them though. Properties can be bought by shell companies that are owned by some other entity in the chain which ties back to blackrock. You are pretty clueless about how the real world works.

>>107491361
Blackrock is already buying up parts of Ukraine, what makes you think your turbo folk listening ass isn't?

>>107491554
Lmao are they that stupid?
Buying property in a war zone which is only gonna dump

>>107491413
Because we know it was our previous corrupt Prime minister. He literally had to resign about this (the properties are not returned and either the money).

Fucking hell, reading some of the retardation here and I understand why you fuckers are struggling to find jobs.

none of you people are actually employed.

>>107491674
Not for long

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>>107488494
>amerimutt has never had puffed rice
have you ever eaten anything anything that didn't come from a sysco truck

>>107487906
they had UHT milk at the dollarama for like 2$ per carton and they stopped carrying it after like two days, then i started finding the exact same brand in grocery stores for 5-6$ per carton. im positive some canuckistani dairy magnate had whoever was importing it killed and all current stock destroyed.

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Cloned our production software onto my laptop and the test suite doesn't start because it references code that was removed in 2022.

I never want to be in the same room with our customers.

>>107491674
I actually had a four-month stint as a NEET this year and I miss it.

>>107491863
tests are a spook

>>107491622
thats the point, they are buying it while everyone is fleeing and it's super cheap. war's not gonna last forever

>>107491863
So, make a PR turning off those tests seeing as they're no longer needed as the code is no longer there.

I found data imported into our ERP system that had been imported as strings instead of timestamps, now the ERP system was fine with this loose typing but something I was doing wasn't.
You know what I did? I fixed the data in the ERP system instead of monkey patching around it or moaning about it on an image board.

>>107491325
clueless American posts are so cute

>>107491968
Whose flag is on the moon?

STOP. MAKING. YOUR. OWN. FUCKING. WEEKLY. ONE. HOUR. BLOCK. MEETINGS.
I DON'T GIVE A FUCK. FUCK OFF AND LEAVE ME ALONE
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>107491996
France's now

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>>107492002
IT dustmen don't have to deal with this

>>107492032
yeah but you have to deal with people which is arguably worse

>>107491229
In IT you literally cannot get your foot in the door without them anymore. Even on hell desk. I know a guy on our hell desk that has a degree and every associate cisco cert and is working on his CCNP. He just graduated. He can do powershell/python, VM management, rack and stack, troubleshoot networks... He works for 19 dollars an hour because he can't find anything else.

>>107491935
Looks like a forever war to me

>>107492118
>In IT you literally cannot get your foot in the door without them anymore.
I got a job at a defense contractor with zero certs

Did a live coding interview today, guy was annoyed I didn’t use AI to “help” me code and instead just referred the documentation.

I thought interviews were supposed to show you know your shit?

Probably thinking of dropping the process, cause they seem like a company I wanna dodge.

>>107492156
in 2024/2025? Because I don't buy it unless you had a clearance. If you didn't have one you can bow down and thank your lucky stars since you're the luckiest faggot in this entire thread. Just look at /utwg/. There are too many people out there with certs + degrees scraping the bottom of the barrel.

>>107492156
kys larping furnigger you do not have a clearance and you FAILED you A+ you lost swarthoid furjeet.

>>107492176

I had the opposite experience.

HR roastie:
>we're ALL about integrating AI into our work
>fully AI leveraged

the actual coding interview:
>YOU BETTER NOT SO MUCH AS GLANCE AT AI. THIS IS ALL MANUAL CODING. TIMER STARTS NOW

>>107491967
>So, make a PR turning off those tests seeing as they're no longer needed as the code is no longer there.
You don't understand. NONE of the tests run.

>new retard sent a request for a meeting on a fucking holiday
>some other retard actually accepted the meeting
I hate these brainlets so fucking much...

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>>107492187
>Because I don't buy it unless you had a clearance.
I did but I had to get a new one anyway and one of the insecurities I prattle on about whilst drinking too much is that it was really lucky. but 99% of this thread insists they have a higher clearance than mine and also every cert ever so why can't (You) do better

>>107492197

I mean that’s equally stupid.

>>107492220
You don't work for fun?

>>107487610
Is that Linkara, aka The Lightbringer?

>>107492244
>whilst drinking too much
>he actually imbibes the liquid jew
NGMI

I hate townhalls so freaking much.
>We had a good quarter! (or a bad one)
>Anyways, there will be layoffs, and RTO, and you're going to have more work, and your parents are probably going to die.
Why do they always have to be so negative all the damn time? ;_;

>>107488664
sounds alright. what's your channel called?

>>107492441
my last townhall was all about soothing rumors that a bunch of projects were going to be killed and going "well AKSHUALLY we weren't supposed to annouce it but we got another contract, just a 'small'(multi-million 3+ year instead of multi-billion 20+ year dollar) one"

>>107492441

If you are working in tech for more than 10 years, you know they weren’t like that.

It’s more like the boomers in charge won’t retire and pass the baton to the new generstiom and they have like this power trip syndrome as a generation to make everyone feel like shit.

It's selfish old people doing selfish old people shit.

>>107492470
ugh that's what i mean. I don't think I've ever had a single positive townhall. Each and every one of these are giving me PTSD. Doesn't matter if we do good or bad as a company, it's ALWAYS bad news.

>>107492363
DON'T TALK ABOUT ME YOU SON OF A BITCH

>>107492482

Between the booms and the jeets these are dark times

>>107492244
Kill yourself furfaggot you do not even know A+.

>>107492482
In 10 years it'll get better.
Maybe..... it's even worse because people panic question and it's so fucking annoying since you're making the executives think about these particular scenarios when they don't really care.
>IF YOU MISS A DAY DO YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT UP ON ANOTHER DAY?
>IF WE'RE NOT GETTING NEW RESOURCES DOES THAT MEAN THERE WILL BE LAYOFFS?
>DO I HAVE TO WORK AT THE SAME OFFICE AS MY TEAM OR CAN I GO TO THE CLOSEST ONE
motherfuckers stop asking holy fuck, it's much easier to ask for this at a lower level then get a sweeping message at the top.

>>107492244
Jobless furjeet LARPer comes to larp again...

Some one make a new thread without this nigger in it PLEASE!

>>107492534

Yeah, and they all watched Wall Street and think they’re Gordon Gecko or some shit.

>>107492244
Post hands and post Git.

I don't know why I bother with video conferences
They're more often than not a panel of gas bags selling some shit
Doubly so if its women

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>current job is dreadful
>staid too long with boomers and now I'm out of touch when it comes to tech
>spend a couple of days browsing linkedin
>apply to 10 offers, only really liked 2 of them
>1 rejected, 1 unanswered

>>107492948
>>apply to 10 offers
first, those are job listings not offers
second, the game has changed
statistically you most likely did not apply to a single real job
no, there's no way to tell until an offer is extended (still isn't guaranteed at this point)

>>107488664
>born to be a small video game eceleb for mobile games
>forced to do this stupid "lead ai engineer" job

ho hum. guess i better go talk to the computer some more

I just don't really like how most of my job is office politics tier and I have to play "dumb" for some of this shit.
>project is doing something really fucking stupid
>hi anon can we do ABC?
>they're doing ABC to do XYZ when we can go to just straight XYZ
>that's a good point! they bring the information back to the bigger team
>it blows up and nobody takes responsibility for redesigning a new process even if it's literally right there.
>okay fine I won't mention streamlining XYZ next time
>get another project where they doing something similar
>"yeah we can do ABC"
>ends up being so much additional overhead, nobody's actually taking responsible for who owns this or cases outside the regular standard of procedures.

How the hell do I avoid this? Just going straight to XYZ blew up because our operational team doesn't want to do a simpler process just because.....

>>107493758
I can't even read this post anymore without AI summarizing it.

>>107493772
Why are you shitposting?

>>107493807
I'm not, the post stopped making sense to me around the ABC and XYZ part.

>>107493840
Are you the furry?

>>107493868
I'm not really into animals.

>>107493877
Me neither.

Is youtube throttling for anyone else since yesterday? I can't work in these conditions

>>107490521
Make up an excuse to take a short 1-2mos sabbatical.

>>107488477
The wagie himself got a refute every month when he checks his bank account balance.

>>107493758
Just keep suggesting the XYZ and let it blow up.

as a tech worker, what drug would you try out next vacation

>>107494282
Weed or alcohol are the only okay drugs. Everything else is just shit and these days most coke is laced with fetanyl and you become a zombie.

These fucking useless calls where management yaps about nothing for 30 minutes

>>107494282
I'm a tech worker, not a degenerate.

>>107494789
If you aren't bumping lines of coke off the actual IT help desk starting in the morning, then what the actual fuck are you?

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As an ITIL jockey, should I try and learn some actual tech skills?
If so, which ones would be most applicable?

>>107494789
being a tech worker and a lil pussy nerd bitch are two distinct variables

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>>107494826
Not working the help desk.

>>107494970
Nobody said you had to work at the help desk. You just walk by there and snort a line of their shitty desks as you walk to your Kingly $500k/year starting dev job.

>>107495019
>You just walk by there
There's no help desk in my house.

>>107495022
Well then where are you getting coke?

is the furfag some LLM character, or is he real?

>>107494282
>tech worker
>>107494826
>If you aren't bumping lines of coke off the actual IT help desk
nice bait

Anyone else feels like complete fraud even with quite a lengthy career?
Honestly, I still don't know how to write good tests or even how to use git beyond 3-4 commands.
>been working 8 years
Sometimes I genuinely feel like junior developers are smarter than me.

>>107495233
I feel much better about myself now that I'm working among Claude-addicted retards.

>>107495233
Just use Claude

>>107495233
i'm the only one who knows anything at this company and everyone around me is a fraud.

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>>107495233
idgaf. I do my job and get paid relatively well. I wish they laid me off so I could get a severance package + unemployment gibs to scratch my balls for a while, maybe forever even

>>107495233

If anything, since AI came along, I am pretty sure I’m the only one who knows shit because I’m not dependant on it.

I cannot work for my new boss for much longer, this fucker is driving me crazy. I have been here for ten years and he's barely been here for one. I don't want to quit. What can I do?

>>107495499
Kill him

>>107495444
You could have used it to do a grammar and spelling check, my nigger.

Gave copilot chatgpt/claude a go today and the retards hardcodedmy variable assignation instead of taking from the json into a class like I wanted
I'm not impressed

>>107492482
>It’s more like the boomers in charge won’t retire and pass the baton
Ahh Boomers please stop working. I need to pay taxes for your retirement!

>>107494282
What drug should I try out during work?

>>107495519

ESL

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>>107491722
>anon chuckles at how funny "inflated rice" sounds
>obsessed europissant gets offended and starts screeching
>while posting an american product
Go make eurochan or some shit. Nobody cares about your whinging.

>>107494282
Psychs are always a good bet. Unless you're a dropped tendie away from an heroing, then unfuck your life first.

>>107495539
You don't need to do it the other way if you can hard code it with AI

>>107495973
>you are using it wrong!
lmao

>>107495233
also:
> i cannot use git beyond 3-4 commands
you don’t need anything more than that
be glad you know how to use the CLI, I know several engineers that look at me like I have three heads because I navigate git using the CLI

>>107494282
DMT would be cool

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I just don't really do any work in the afternoon anymore

>>107496397
I do all my work in the afternoon... because I wake up at 9am but end up not doing anything in the morning kek

>>107496397
>>107496449
You guys work?

>>107496480
in theory, yes

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>>107496397
All of my work is knocked out before 8 am and i start work at 6am and work until 2pm. Fuck being forced to work during lunch. I did that enough.

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>>107492244
You can remain ignorant and never learn anything ever again. We call those retarded or retired. Those people stay at the help desk forever. Just because you have a job doesn't mean it teaches you everything.

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>told my manager I'm applying to a position in a different team (HR forced me to, couldn't do it behind his back)
>shocked my management chain 3 managers up
>they ask me if everything is alright, that they will do anything for me
>"everything's ok, I'm just interested in their tech stack :)" (I actually want to leave because my managers are asses and I'm getting no real experience)
>the dudebro in charge of the position I'm applying to gave me a bullshit answer and told me to wait - I'm guessint it means he doesn't want me
>now I'm stuck with my current managers
You know what's funny? I'm gonna apply to another position that just opened in another team.

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>mfw realized I'm not even a midwit but still get paid

STOP USING PASSWORD MANAGERS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

lotta loyalty for a hired gun...

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>>107496669
>STOP USING PASSWORD MANAGERS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
hasicorp vault, my beloved

>>107496938
No sexo software anon sama

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>>107497071
>software
ahem, ackchyually its a hosted service *sound of clearing the throat of phlegm*

>>107497102
Shut the fuck up furfaggot. You don't even have A+.

>>107495780
Cocaine.

>>107488477
I don't have a mind for analysis like you. And I'm autistic. And I should be considering that you are bullshitting me and projecting, eh? Which is it?

>>107495022
I have a premium carbon plate and a glass tube for snorting. I do not fuck around.

>>107491318
We all need jobs. Billionaires are almost irrelevant in this matter. That the billionaire is the clown at the top sucks because they are all clowns and retards and only seem to make good decisions by chance that affect the rrst of us. But we have bills to pay and we need jobs, retard. Homeless people also have it simpler, and more miserable. That's an easier position for you to attain, would you like to try that instead?
Billionaires have no place in this specific topic other than that their bad decisions can cost jobs.
I could not care less if they are living in pointless ultimate luxury or sucking each other off. None of my business like it is none of my business if some East Siberian beauty gets railed by some lucky bastard in Siberia. (I'm an American and have never been to Russia and have nothing to do with Russians. Also, I only care for glorious 2D.) A billionaire being a slacker is none of my business like some random nigga somewhere in the Congo getting his brains splattered all over the ground by a psychopathic warlord right now is also none of my business. I mean, WTFF, man?

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>>107497111
>furfaggot
here we go again the schizo who thinks everyone is "furfaggot" is back
>You don't even have A+
I don't need an A+ when i have a decade of experience that speaks for itself
I don't need to worry about certs to make myself look good because i already look good

>>107497310
>Cope and sneed posting again.

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>>107497310

>>107497324
>Cope
you're the one claiming an A+ is some giga achievement
do you even have a job, or are you sitting there on your A+ cert wondering why nobody is hiring you?

>>107497396
I have CCNA and you don't even have A+. you are the retarded nigger.

>>107487610
wage cuck bike cuck

>>107497446
The bike cuck comic destroyed that man's career.

Any CS job opportunities on long island?

Did you know? That if you post with a picture or series of pictures, (especially irrelevant ones) consistently to the point that it identifies you, that's known as "avatarfagging" and is an offense on 4chan! The more you know!

>>107497466
Very odd how the furrnigger shit is replaced with anime fag shit the moment people start telling them off. But both of these posts state that they don't have A+ and don't need certs since they work IT jobs. Very odd it's almost like its the same person but oh well i guess i'll take my meds.

>>107495233
not even joking
>>107495262
>>107495306
the people who aren't "clauding" are probably going to get fucked. learn quick or die.

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>>107497403
>I have CCNA
Don't care, that doesnt mean shit to me. I have a stack of network engineering books i never read despite "Network Engineer" being my title from 2015 to 2022 because i didnt need to read them
What i do now is automate boring shit, like, what you probably do or would do if you were actually employed
>inb4 dont believe you
picrel

>>107497488
its almost like only retards who think certs are the end all and will get them a job brag about their certs

>>107497637
Anon you are competing with people who have masters degree's and multiple certs. Even if you have 10+ years of job experience they might even give you that interview. Also how are they suppose to trust that you know the basics without these certs? Homelabs and being a "super user" like the furfaggot claims to be can only get you so far in this job market. Do you seriously think they are hiring network engineers without CCNP and a bachelors?

Do you guys watch any anime at work?

>>107497516
What type of things do you have Claude do?

>>107497750
>Homelabs and being a "super user" like the furfaggot claims
Do you mean whatever user is actually the furfaggot claims or what i claim, because im the anime guy poster who gets called furfaggot too despite us being different posters
But this logic and differentiation is lost on idiots i suppose. I'm also spartacus
>how are they suppose to trust that you know the basics without these certs?
By having experience that shows you raising through the ranks and landing better and more technical positions
>Do you seriously think they are hiring network engineers without CCNP and a bachelors?
I have a bachelors but no CNNP and got hired to be a network engineer twice. I quite the first company and the second company kept me as a network engineer, promoted me internally, until i came clean, told them "im bored as fuck ive been automating shit" and they promoted me internally to a developer role where ive been growing even more in ways that i enjoy more than networking
>Homelabs and being a "super user"
You really think a recruiter will look at a candidate with professional experience, then get to their 'personal project' section of their resume and not think "damn he does this in his free time too?". Because my current employers did see that, and the manager of our IT department and my boss who also interviewed me said thats the shit they like to see, and were genuinlely impressed

If you havent been employed in 2 years do you think decided to get a cert now would help? I doubt it would

>>107497754
>Do you guys watch any anime at work?
Yes, in between work or during lunch. I also furiously masturbate

>>107497845
Certs and degree's help for all levels. Experience and homelabs is icing on the cake for most employers. Most people won't get an interview unless its extensive job experience that outweighs (10-15+ years) not having certs/degree's. To say its worthless means you are a retard.

To say it doesn't benefit your career to have fundamentals, mid level or high level education from certs like the CCNP and some supporting cert or the likes means you are also a retard.

What do you think people are doing right now with 10+ years of job experience? They are either moving to a more complex job or specialized role to get more experience or they are doing what 90% of the people here do. They are getting their masters or getting high level certs.

Got a critical design review today for a system that I was made lead for at the start of the year.
The Tech Authority is an old hard ass who questions every little decision made and gets shitty if something isn't strictly by the INCOSE systems engineering book.
The Engineering manager is on my side and backs me in these discussions but he is off sick today, so I am going into this meeting with a design still in review and no one supporting me

And the reason the design is not conplete is because I am the only one on it full time. There are 19 other engineers working on the project and none are allocated to me or my system despite me asking for help the whole year

I am stressed, tired and burnt out. I cant wait for the day to be over

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I don't want to work anymore. I just want to write software, not deal with deranged bullshit and shitadmin work. Why is that so hard to ask?
Every new job I get is:
make this dog shit work somehow, bonus, it's nonfree software from a shitty vendor full of jeets.

I'm at the limit here bros. I spend so much time, when I write software, to make it as painless for the admin and users as possible, but everyone else just makes it so ass.

>>107497910
>To say it doesn't benefit your career to have fundamentals, mid level or high level education from certs like the CCNP and some supporting cert or the likes means you are also a retard
you're telling me someone with a 2 year gap in employment getting an A+ will magically find them a job
I learned the fundamentals through employment, i dont need to get a cert just to stroke my dick off
>What do you think people are doing right now with 10+ years of job experience? They are either moving to a more complex job or specialized role to get more experience
which is what i'm doing...

How common is it for companies to fire people because of skill issues? Have you been fired or seen somebody get fired and why?

>>107497967
If you are applying for an entry level job and don't have A+/Net+ and Sec+(for government jobs) you will have an extremely hard time applying for a help desk/desk side support role. Not to mention with a 2 year work gap. Most people with gaps like that get certs to bridge that with their next employer. I know i would. If you had a bachelors or even an associates it means you might be able to skip A+ and just focus on Net+ and Sec+ but beyond that most entry level jobs REQUIRE these certs and most interview questions pertain the subject matter on hand.

If you never touched these subjects(reading the book but not getting the cert) then you will have an extremely hard time getting them right during an interview or having a grasp of what needs to be done in the workplace without them. An IT degree at most covers the topics of all 3 comptia certs with a dash of CCNA but thats wishful thinking if you never read those books directly and recalling it without going through the pain of getting the cert is even less if never actually completed getting it.

>>107498016
firing people is painful theres months of avoidance first, then if the problem is truly detrimental you have to PIP them, then weeks of HR meetings, unless the person hands the company a reason to fire legitimately on a silver platter its easier for companies to grit their teeth and pay the underachieving leech for at least a decent while

>>107490398
No idea. I work contract and most of my jobs are inherently retarded, and I just charge a huge fee for services anyway. This one started by an admin at a company saying "Our fiber needs replacing because it's old" and so I was asked to test the lines. I grabbed my fiber testing kit that I haven't used in ten years and checked the pairs, which tested good on the ones that gave a result.

At most places, no one has any of the credentials to log in to any equipment and they don't want to change any of the configurations to allow for access, so I'm testing blindly. Only a few have let me pull the config from switches/routers and gain access that way since most only lease their equipment.

My original guess was that they were in half-duplex but I don't think that's the case. I just can't fathom why someone would run a pair of fiber strands to somewhere and not use them both.

>>107498022
>If you never touched these subjects
idk how many times i have to tell you, you can "touch these subjects" or have enough knowledge through experience that a cert on it is pointless

>>107498016
Yes.
I try and make sure I deliver value as fast as possible to set the tone. The tardo that got hired with me talked a lot of game but couldn't deliver. In bigger companies though, it depends ((who)) it is. If said person was hired by Dapreet Jaipur (the CIO) who also happens to be related or from the "same village," then lol, lmao.

>>107498016
Most companies give you the resources to avoid that. But generally you got about 3-6 months before that happens (saw 5 people get piped in the workplace in a year). These people were given all opportunity to avoid getting fired with details of their mistakes. They stopped letting some hiring manager make the requirements and forced it upon the sections themselves to determine what is important for being hired. To our hiring manager's credit he worked our jobs before doing that but he was overwhelmed with 12 sections jobs applications. He can filter for personality and do those entry level interviews but he cannot do technical interviews. That was his fault and our fault.

>>107498041
You still won't get a job without the cert anon. You will never be a woman no matter how much make up you put on. I am speaking about the IT career as a whole not some anecdote like yourself with 10+ years of experience. Entry level requires these certs and are stupid to suggest they can just fuck around on homelabs to get experience to pass these interviews when they won't even look at them without certs or degrees.

Is government shit pretty much the only thing safe from outsourcing at this point? Can you even WFH on such jobs?

>>107498089
Safe from outsourcing but not safe from your company being bought out and shit hitting the fan. The contracting world is NOT stable.

>>107498084
Idk I could probably get a job doing wagie government shit, but I also know the person hiring... I don't have any certs btw.

>>107498101
>Goverment
Take what i said and apply it as a REQUIREMENT. If you are US then these certs are non negotiable. You might get hired and given 6 months to take it before they fire you but that's about it.

>>107498109
To be fair, I should have emphasized working on government contracts* not the government directly.

>>107498118
Like i said its the same thing effectively. It is a REQUIREMENT to have the certs listed on these job postings. If you want to do network engineering then having a Bachelors, Sec+ and CCNP(either enterprise or service provider) is non negotiable. Its not just a filter for the government but its like having a license to fuck around with 100k$ usd routers. Your 10+ years of experience might get your resume to their table but they will throw it out if you don't have Sec+ or whatever cert is required for that position.

>>107498140
Figures. Just dealing with government shit is a bunch of worthless paper work and busy shit. Thanks. I'll dodge that job req.

>>107498084
>You still won't get a job without the cert anon
ive been doing it for a decade, retard.
>You will never be a woman no matter how much make up you put on
i said right here >>107497562 im not furfaggot and i have a hairy tummy, retard. You didnt even reply to my post maybe because it rustled your jimmies
>stupid to suggest they can just fuck around on homelabs to get experience
show me where i said that, i guarantee you will not find it anywhere and you'll probably quote this "furfaggot" your so schizo about believing everyone you argue with is them

How easy is it to get a dev internship in college? Is there a surefire way?

>>107498171
>Furfaggot is speaking

>>107498171
All of the books that you posted are OLD. Anon certs are a Requirement for government jobs. Beyond that you need certs to get jobs from entry to engineering level. Just because you are lucky doesn't mean you cannot benefit from studying certs. You are lucky to have a job without certs.

>>107497516
sars please redeem the claude ai

mrmm very beautifal for gorgious looks!

>>107487610
Anyone here get pip'd for stupid shit not at any fault of their own?

This happened to me at my last role, fucking third party kept dropping the ball but they could do no wrong according to my dumb boss and her idiot exec supervisor.

Curious if I should not list that job, I was only there for 5 months.

I still feel bitter about it but I'm glad to not be working there to be honest. I was doing the work of two people since my teammate left a month in, and I was never acknowledged for this portion alone.

>>107497454
catboy's career was bound to plummet sooner or later, at least he had the decency to make it clear in no uncertain terms how much of a fucking wimp he is

>>107498279
>Anyone here get pip'd for stupid shit not at any fault of their own?
Never.
The slowest mule is nearest to the whip.

>>107498283
Most artists barely improve their content let alone webcomic variety. I tell artists all the time without evolution of their products they will fizzle out in a couple years of online presence. More importantly just naturally most artists peak after 10 years in the field and we see that with musicians all the time.

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>>107498181
id if you were the same person, im not a complete schizo like the retard who calls every one furfaggot but picrel post's are mine (cand (You) myself due to spam filter or something

Not a single other post in this thread was me so if there is someone posting furry shit and they are "furfaggot" and then i post and you call me "furfaggot" and we are two seperate posters and you dont believe that, then there is a word for that, its called schizophrenic

>>107498229
>certs are a Requirement for government jobs
no they arent. Look at the book, top row 2nd from the right. That was acquired while i worked a government job; it was given to me to keep

>>107487610
Why are people who do contract work such faggots?

Asking since I tried asking the ones in my area for advice on how to get the in since it's clear they all have worked at all the same places. I moved here about 2 months ago and haven't actually worked in the area hybrid either.

Is connecting with LinkedIn messaging even valid anymore for this kind of shit? Should I just start my own business and contract my own work out? I did dev for 2 years (Typescript, JS, C#, React, NextJS) and left that previous dev role in May.

Curious how you guys found idiots to pay you money to dev out some cool shit.

i think i'm going to jail

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>>107498303
>Still posting about a non existent schizo
Anon those are multiple people in that imagine. You are the one that needs to take meds, then you need to go to sleep.

>>107498298
Eh that makes sense. Get shit done on time, for sure. That wasn't the problem. I did so much for those bastards but they pinned me for some truly bullshit reasons. I know you're not gonna believe me though, I get it.

But one thing's for sure, I am never working that closely directly with execs ever. They are the dumbest class of subhumans that demand everything but can't do anything themselves. Biggest pieces of shit on earth.

>>107491996
>implying the moon landing was real

>>107498450
what do you mean

>>107498089
>Can you even WFH on such jobs?
The technology exists, but I doubt they’ll ever allow wagies to use it to work from home. I think it’s pretty much reserved for actual high level people.

>>107498457
Shit was fake my nigga

>>107497282
The reason everyone is scrambling to make ends meet is because the billionaires have the influence to structure the economy that way. If there weren't billionaires you'd have to work less than half as much to get by. How could you possibly be this ignorant?

>>107498436
Care to elaborate? Im in a super similar situation. The exec is a fucking prick and I wish the worst for him

>>107498360
Use a no-log VPN next time you upload illegal porn.

Is going to a coding bootcamp a good way to get a job? Which language should I do it for?

I can't stand college.

>>107498806
Good luck anon. It wasn't a guarantee back then either.

>>107498553
incorrect

>>107498806
Why would you wanna get into this industry rn

>>107498806
>Is going to a coding bootcamp a good way to get a job?
No. Going to a technical school is a good way to get a job. Happy welding!

>>107498664
Sure. I left an ok dev job back in May that I did for 2 years. The newest job was basically an API integrations role with using low code platforms I started in July mostly involving marketing platforms since my boss was purely an idiot marketer that talked hype but didn't do shit herself.

What bugged the shit out of me is that her boss was one of those execs who would change the vibe of a call instantly when he joined since people feared him. He was one of those guys that won't shut the fuck up, and when he asks you questions they are usually yes or no type questions but more so in a demanding manner.

I was told by my boss that I was gonna be put onto a performance review in October aka the kiss of death. If you ever get this, just leave. There is no coming back since even if you meet their demands, your reputation is tarnished.

I went through the PIP call with my boss and her supervisor, and it was the most evil call I have ever had in my life. They were saying that they didn't like me, and there were other execs who didn't either.

For reference, my boss during my one-on-ones would stare in the distance, and tell me, "Oh sorry, I was worrying about my own tasks I have to get done" (Wtf?)

The third party we worked with that onboarded me and my teammate basically had their API integrations in the most convoluted way possible to the point where only THEY would know everything. They were terrible at documenting anything and were toxic to the point my fucking teammate left 1 month in because of their bullshit.

Fast forward to a month ago, I was doing all the API integration stuff myself, and honestly pretty well comparatively. I was 3 weeks ahead of schedule so I call bs completely, they just didn't like me for some reason.

The stupid part was the dumb marketing exec would constantly have these new ideas for campaigns that they would push all my work in flux. Lesson learned, I don't wanna do Solutions Engineer or GTM Engineer type work ever again.

>>107498806
I did one. Biggest advice if you've been working in technical support and know a ton about computers in general and are autistic with Linux and programming, you will be miles above the average boot camp grad I worked with.

The biggest thing I did was to apply to jobs IMMEDIATELY after I started making projects. I was able to get a junior dev job in my local state remotely.

That job turned to shit since I was trying to finish the bootcamp and do it at the same time. I got lazy and got fired. 3 months later though, I kept applying locally and got the dev job I had for 2 years up until last May.

Idk if it was truly worth it though, the company I did technical support for remotely was really really good. I miss that team, and working with devs on their projects since I was just doing tech support for a SaaS product offered to devs. That was a fun one.

Making SaaS applications sucks. There's a big difference.

Anyway, rant aside, if you got a good team and a good boss, definitely do not take it for granted. Sure you wanna power play in life and go as far as you can.

But honestly, I can only think of a handful of people I actually liked outside of the job mentioned above.

>>107498838
What other industry should I go into? Manual labor? I'd rather not be disabled by the time I retire.
>>107498930
Do I need a lot of experience before I sign up?

>>107492244
imagine LITERALLY not having A+. LMAO

>>107498836
How can the moon landing be real if the moon isn't real?

>>107499024
>I'd rather not be disabled by the time I retire.
Do some stretching and eat leafy greens. You'll be fine.

>>107499024
No, but some tech experience does help.

I'm.gonna be edgy for a second but I have seen actual niggers who couldn't be bothered with shit with computers try to get though it, and they seemed just fine. Even dumb ass Stacey's too.

If you can do the basics of programming and know your way around a file system and how to debug shit, you will go a long way.

Biggest side advice too, find a friend doing the same thing and form a company.

This faggot Zoomer I worked with did this while in college and got away with so much shit in this respect and was able to move on to a successful NY startup. Pretty sure his company was full of shit too but most dumb recruiters don't know either.

Learn how to lie effectively and say you've been doing the work for that long.

>>107497134
you don't fucking cry when shat upon if you don't believe you're being shat on for good reason.

>>107494101
true neets open their savings account or index fund or precious metals portfolio and watch number go up

>>107499366
>know your way around a file system

Playing minecraft and downloading mods for Fallout 2 made me quite good at that. I've done some basic coding stuff, but it was in python. I made a gambling game that had multiple games that you could leave and re-enter and it kept track of your money throughout, but I've been kinda lazy about practice lately so I've kinda forgotten quite a bit.

>>107499265
He also thinks pi isnt 2 look it up it is all in the archives it's there. He is fully retarded.

>>107499366
Do not listen to this LARPING faggot's advice. You need A+ Net+ Sec+ to get a REAL job where you develop REAL systems. IT is not tech furnigger end your life.

>>107499537
Bro you need certs i swear to god you cannot become a "Super User" and get a job. This is not 1990 before the dotcom bust when they needed anyone with tech experience.

>>107499606
You dumb fuck. I did technical support engineer roles before Dev. You do not need certs unless you wanna get into networking and cybersecurity. Otherwise, they're a waste of time.

You might feel good to showboat to me that you have some cert, but guess what, I don't give a single fuck.

Not trolling, how do I get a job? Since QA is gone this is the only place

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>Trying to get into programming
>No CS degree
>What about bootcamp
Anons please stop hope posting this doesn't happen anymore.

>>107499670
>Furrnigger is speaking please kneel to his seething rage
Stop posting anon.

>>107498838
What the hell else would you do? If you're into tech.

Why are these canadian BUM JEET ZOOPHILES thinking they can post on this general, bros?

>>107499686
are you really "into tech" or do you just like playing vidya

>>107499630
Yeah I know, that's why I want to do the bootcamp, I was just wondering if that's enough experience for the bootcamp.

>>107499674
>>107499630
>>107499606
Same faggot nigger. I hope you neck yourself. Like it or not, I have known others who did bootcamps and found jobs..

The ones that didn't weren't applying during the entire process or weren't willing to move.

Can you actually get a remote job as an AS grad with no certs or experience or is it a meme? Also, how the hell is IT and cybersec two different fields?

>>107499703
>bootcamps
You mean like doing A+?? Hmmm furnigger self-owns yet again how surprising. Rope.

>>107499696
Yeah. Just not the engineering part

*TAP* *TAP *TAP*
https://legalclarity.org/what-is-the-penalty-for-lying-about-military-service/

>>107499700
It helps anon but no guarantees. Only go to bootcamps with qualified and guaranteed internships lined up. I highly recommend you read up books regarding what you want to get into for the bootcamp so you are not wasting your time on VERY FAST education. It will make relearning the topics much easier. CS50 from harvard is great for programming plus other projects you can do.

>>107499729
>just go to harvard bro

>>107499703
>Furnigger thinks everyone that disagrees with him is the same guy
Anon we all hate your larping here.

>>107499700
Find a bootcamp that does the following:
Frontend: Typescript, JS, NextJS, React.
Backend: Python, C#, Ruby On Rails

If you're able to do projects using those technologies, you will be well on your way to getting your first gig.

You could also just find the GitHub of any bootcamp and just learn from what they have for free and say you went there.

You don't need certs to get a job, just have a security clearance. It's so easy. All you have to do is apply.

>>107499731
Its free and also free on youtube. Great intro content. And you can put it on your resume. Free.
https://www.edx.org/cs50

>>107499734
KYS samefagging furjeet. You don't even have A+.

>>107499740
You need Sec+ anon. They don't just give it out for free. If you aren't in tech they give it out for a bachelors or masters degree to do paperwork. This shit aint wasted on the retarded.

>>107499743
Not a real cert. KYS furnigger.

>>107499756
Its education for programming nigger. If he needs certs then he is doing IT in case he wants to he will be doing the comptia Trifecta then CCNA.

>>107499768
You don't even have A+. Stop talking.

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>title
>YoE
>TC
>NW
>are you happy? why or why not

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>>107498303
Sure furry

>>107498303
>chimp chatter
>bonobo babble
STFU furfaggot you do not even have A+ you retarded stolen valor swarthoid. BTW did you know stolen valor is a crime? You're going away for a long time.

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>>107498303
>>107497310
>>107497102
>>107497562
>Imagine failing A+
WAAAH TO HARD WAAA

>>107499818
>LITERALLY NO A+
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

How do niggers like this even reach adulthood when they are so stupid they can't even do A+?

>>107499735
Bootcamp won't help you furniglet you need real education from certs.

>he doesn't have A+
>>>/g/utwg/
>>>/int/
You Have To Go Back

>>107499880
There are more qualified people in UTWG than this samefagging furnigger.

>>107499884
True UTWG at least has A+

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>>107499735
What if I somehow don't learn those languages? It's a short amount of time. How will I get a job then?
I'm completely new. I'm mostly going off of fumes of blind confidence.

>>107499924
>he doesn't have certifications already
Why are you posting on our thread?
>>>/lgbt/
>>>/mlp/
>>>/vp/

>>107499924
Get a degree anon.

>>107499924
Go Back.

>>107499924
KYS furnigger you can not even pass A+ how do you expect to learn a language as complex as JavaScript? Retarded furfaggot end your life NOW.

>>107494282
drugs are for furfaggots.

>>107499924
I'm not gonna bullshit you, anon. This is a rough, rough market. People graduating from good schools with internships at good companies aren't hearing back after shotgun applying for months. If you don't have an A+++ resume and a degree, you're dead in the water. I say this as someone with 10+ years in distributed systems at 4 of 5 FAANG. You do not want to compete with the applicant pool right now if you're at the level of wondering which programming language to learn. You'll just waste a bunch of time self-teaching shit and be disappointed when you don't hear back. Learn at trade instead.

>>107500065
I just want to work in my state (long island) and make a comfy salary. I don't want to work at Google or Microsoft.

>>107500065
You do not have a right to speak in this thread you animal raping jeet. You don't even have CompTIA certification. Neck yourself you braindead boomer furfag.

>>107500108
Only jobs in new jork are finance and banking related. You can go do IT for a college but you are fucked.

>>107500114
The irony here is jeets are 1000x more likely to moaning about CompTIA. An indian's mountain of meaningless certs is his cope for being born a street shitting bugman. At least east asians are attractive and have respectable cultures. Indians by comparison are basically a bunch of phenotypically vile asian niggers who showboat by taking dockers courses on linkedin and posting about how it challenged them or whatever else only to be congratulated by a dozen identical sirs.

>>107500108
>>107500188
>seething jealousy because he FAILED the A+ exam
Lol. Just lol.

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goodnight /twg/

So which should I do first? Get a certification or go to a coding bootcamp?

>>107500240
Certs are for IT and coding is for programming. Do you want a job right now (IT) or later(programming) is the better question. Also get a CS degree irregardless of your choice its a prefered degree for IT.

>>107500240
Bootcamps are worthless you need certs like A+ Net+ Sec+ they are all that matter. If you aren't a smooth brained furnigger who drank too much dog cum to have an IQ above 100 you'll be fine.

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>>107500240
take the student loan debt. education doesn't cost; it pays.

>>107500263
>Do you want a job right now
Yes.
>Also get a CS degree irregardless of your choice its a prefered degree for IT.

Bachelors or is an associates good enough? I really don't do well with college, especially when I'm working full time. My brain cannot handle doing 4 12hr shifts in a week and doing pre-calculus. Do I really need the CS degree?

>>107500346
Associates might get you a crappy low paying helpdesk job anon. Don't get your hopes up.

>>107492363
I edited the watermark out of the original. I don't remember whose comic it is — don't care!

>>107500343
Also I feel like it's too late for college. I'm 25 and I'm just done with school, I'm too old and decrepit for this bs. I need a job three years ago.

>>107500387
Bro just rush through it online and have no life for 2 years. I did that at 27

>>107500354
stolen valor larper shut the fuck up. just get your A+ Certification and Sec+ Clearance it is all you need.

>>107500393
BUT I NEED MONEY

>>107500420
Maybe you shouldn't have bought so many fursuits, kek

>>107500420
I did that while working full time. I truly meant NO LIFE when i said that. You can do Cleps/Dantes to skip through the first year of college with 100$ tests that covers a class for general education.

>>107500436
>how do I get a job?
>lol just get a job lol

>>107500457
>/utwg/
anon get out. Go full time in college while working at a coffee shop or get out.

>>107500436
Is a degree really that much of an asset over a bootcamp and certifications?

>>107500427
Do you think I'm someone else or is this some weird joke that I don't get?

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>>107500473
Anon this is me with my masters degree.

>>107500457
Yes. Are you too stupid to pay for CompTIA degrees and fill out an SF-86?

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>>107500487
both

>>107500467
coffee shop is not tech job you retarded furry. post your hands

>>107500488
>furfag image

This thread right now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXBGDf2IDQI

>>107500488
So you're doing well? Is that what that image implies? Are you in the USA?

>>107500547
US anon. Masters degree opened up a ton of jobs. I work in IT but Programmers generally make 2x what IT guys do.

>>107500558
>I work in IT
OK so you are admitting you're literally too stupid for a real Tech job thank you furnigger. You can leave now.

>>107500558
How much do you make? IT seems rather low level for a masters degree.

>>107500581
160k$ mid level NOC position.

>>107500588
Larping furnigger you don't have a job you never had a job you do not even have A+.

>>107497958
Ok meeting done. It was a shitshow
Might have a cry when I get home

>>107500660
You dumb motherfucker.

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>>107499842
>>107499899
>>107500047
>>107500114
>>107500413
>>107500508
>>107500626
Meds anon.

>>107500740
You are fully retarded and FAILED A+ kys samefagging threadspamming furcuck.

You

Lost.

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furry doesn't need education he only uses a >I would need to fix with either a dremel, heat gun, or oscilloscope and tone generator
And worse he never once used an oscilloscope at work ever since he never had a job or would ever be trusted with such expensive equipment.

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He just never stops spamming about unrelated shit non stop.

>there's furfags in the fucking thread again
Too bad stolen valor is a crime and there is a long paper trail about you, furnigger. Wouldn't it be a shame if someone reported it to the authorities... :)

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>>107500894
>oscilloscope
>expensive
u w0t m8

>>107500984
Not the amazon one's anon. The ones that are used by actual testing centers are expensive. That shit is garbage.

>>107500984
>>oscilloscope
https://www.fluke.com/en-us/product/electrical-testing/portable-oscilloscopes/mda-550
10,000 USD

https://www.tek.com/en/products/oscilloscopes/7-series-dpo
165k used in real world high end applications on multi million dollar shit.

>>107500928
He lives in Canada its like the rest of the common wealth the law only applies to white people in those shit holes.

Man I love job searching, you need to have had a job in a field to get a job in that field. Fucking epic.

>>107500387
One of my mates in uni started when he was 26 and he was still far from the oldest person on the course. Age isn't a good excuse

How can I practice for a scheduled screening call?
They want 1 hour but I only have 2 years exp, wtf do they want me to talk about? The job is typical crud monkey stuff that everyone knows.

>>107498806
you are entering the most competitive and saturated market possible and your concern is spending money on scams to try and get there quicker.
very high chance you are going to end up spending a lot of money and time to get a job completely unrelated. it is baffling that anyone would consider entering tech at this point. half of all the jobs are given to immigrants as it is lol.

>>107502185
Blue collar jobs won't even pay more until they deport 100 million of them and end the Visa program entirely. But all of that is wishful thinking.

>>107502185
>the most competitive and saturated market possible
Source?

>>107502214
everyone knows it. a lot of very well informed have told me. and what is going on in the tech industry is a disaster folks.

theres like 100k comp sci degrees awarded each year and zero demand for entry level work.

yes everything pays like shit and cost of living is too high. tech salaries are appealing because it lets you actually earn a middle class income very quickly. whats likely to happen to you instead is youre going to get an expensive degree with no value and then drive trucks for USPS instead.

but hey its just advice... you can do whatever the FUCK you wanna do.

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