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>Job posting advice feels like pic related.
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Troubleshoot and validate high-speed designs with bandwidth that starts at 1 GHz and goes up to 10 GHz . Get accurate measurements with low noise and sample rate up to 50 GS/s . See more of your design with 6- and 8-channel models.

Base Price
US $41,400 +
https://www.tek.com/en/products/oscilloscopes/6-series-mso

Bro wtf
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>>107502516
Are you sure you need 50 GS/s?
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idk why i cant tell that schizo he isnt replying to me
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I've just received the schedule for my onboarding, I'm so nervous I feel like I'm gonna puke. What's really bothering me is that all eyes will be on me and I'm awkward as fuck.
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>>107502722
I need it to troubleshoot my NES anon
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>>107502758
You can stop being a furnigger.
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>>107502758
None of those posts are my posts. I am not a "Furnigger" you need to stop raging and take your meds anon.
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>>107502768
trust me nobody gives a shit about you, what you will do, and they're probably just praying it's over fast so they can get a coffee and go back to whatever project they have that has been running late for months now
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>>107502783
>>107502792
none of those posts are mine, retard; so screenshotting them and posting them means nothing
>>107502806
why are you posting kiibo when i normally post him, are you trying to trigger that schizo?
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>>107502832
Stop larping as me anon you are the schizo.
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>>107500894
>>107500903
>>107499842
>>107499899
>>107500047
>>107500114
>>107500413
>>107500508
>>107500626
la la la "Furnigger" schizo's need to take their meds.
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I don't remember shit about university
Not even sure I learned anything
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Objectively, being fired next month is the best that could happen to me.
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Thoughts?
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>>107503112
Why do you think Google adds and removes services all the time. It's the same shit over and over again.
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>>107503112
FAGMAN is such a joke.
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>>107503112
this is why Jeets are replacing you
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Is it actually possible to find a job that you enjoy or do they all suck and I should just take whatever job offers the most money.
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>>107503112
If you worked at FAANG or know someone who works there then you know that this is the only way to get promoted there.
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>>107502290
received an offer for a USA outsourced job
the USA dude was
>very demanding and wants perfection
according to the outsource company

replied that if he wants perfection maybe he should have hired an American

this was for you my fellow /g/entleMutts
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today, I discovered that I'm surrounded by idiots. JFC...
I need a looooong vacation. I don't want to work with these retards anymore.
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>>107503410
No such thing as a dream job, just a business waiting to start with another slave to the bank.
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>we made record profit this year!
>... but we wanted to make more than that!
>No bonus, no pay rise for you

This country is fucked, senior PHP dev on what amounts to $50k
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>>107503410
Jobs generally suck but you can get jobs with people you enjoy talking to and with managers who don't enforce constant crunch.
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>>107490952
it nets me $50 to $500 a month, enough as a pocket money as a third worlder to pay small bills like my wifi or gas or treating my cousin

i moved from a metropolitan city to my grandma's place with significantly LCOL and i renovated two rooms into my base of operations. renovated her bathroom, renovated her backyard, renovated her garden.

shits crazy bro. the vtuber thing is just a way to get likeminded people to talk since the people around me irl only discuss banal stuff.
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>rto
>office has bluetooth speaker that people can play christmas music on
>someone plays a HH parody
>BROTHER MERRY CHRISTMAS THEY DONT UNDERSTAND THE THINGS I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS
kek im fucking dying, all the angry karens are now searching the floor to see who's playing it.
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>>107503635
talk to a lawyer maybe?
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>>107502364
>put some keywords in all caps because the AI reviewing it interprets it with a higher intensity
...uhhhh
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GAMES YOU NEED TO PLAY THIS CHRISMAS UNTIL JANUARY THE 31ST

1. THE DIVISION
2. THE DIVISION 2
3. AC BLACKFLAG
4. AC UNITY

TRUST ME TRUST ME TRUUUUSTTT TRVST
TRVST IN FAVST
TRVST IN KRQMER
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>>107503828
For what, they're not required by law to give me a payrise
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Should I fraudmaxx and apply for higher roles that I am probably not suited for? Lead, solution architecture, management, etc.
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>>107504155
Can you fake it til you make it? are the job requirements "it would be nice if your knew xyz" or are they "you must be an expert in xyz, your whole job will revolve around it"
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I'm literally shaking right now

My manager keeps taking credit for my work by saying "our task", "we are doing", etc but he hasn't contributed a single line of code and I wrote 4k lines.

How do I tackle this?

The org is starting to go to him for problems to a certain nature, all of which he then relays to me and asks me how it would be solved

How the fuck do I deal with this?
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>>107504155
I fart maxx in my cubicle.
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>>107504248
What the FUCK are you talking about?

There is literally no problem with that. That is what it means to be in charge of a team. He is responsible for the output of the team, he gets credit for the team's success, and he is on the hook for any of the team's failures.

Your job is to be the code monkey. You are NOT a manager or director. If this displeases you and you want to chase clout and climb the corporate ladder, then that's a completely different story. In that case, pursue a leadership position instead of a programmer position.

zoomers, I swear man
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>>107504155
Honestly I hate this job market. Feels like you gotta grift to get anywhere now.
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I cancelled my claude pro subscription because it didn't feel like it was worth $20/mo for it to generate entry-level javascript. It's pretty shit at C++ and if you query it for configuring, say, some CI/CD tool, its training data is usually not good enough to give you a correct answer. The amount of fuckups it makes it just not worth $20/mo to me. Maybe $5/mo.
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>>107504325
Having a manager/product owner barely involved in a project you were the sole developer for getting an award/shout out for work you did is a right of passage for developers.

It's awkward as fuck when you're with the rest of the developers at the end of year talk/presentation and it happens (especially if they know it was your project). But you soon get used to it and just laugh about it.
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>>107504369
Javascript is lower cast work anon. Just deport your work to some nepalese sherpas.
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>>107504369

Just use Gemini, don't need to subscribe to anything
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>>107504373
>>107504325
huh, so this is totally normal and I shouldn't talk to his manager about this?
I don't want to work of my work gets 100% attributed to my manager and not me.
How can you laugh about this?
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>>107504431
Developers never get credit, the ones who get credit are the ones the people asking for a product/feature talk to.

There used to be employee of the month awards at my place, developers never ever won it except for one time when everyone on the dev team got together to vote for a single person.
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>>107504459
How do you cope with that type of non-meritocracy? Assuming the managers were fairly dumb, generally inept, and were repackaging work their subordinates created.

I recently contacted my manager's manager. Saying, feel free to direct people to me, or include me in discussions about X since I designed and implemented the whole project related X (that my manager says this "makes **us** look good").

I think it's fair, reasonable, and a healthy way to approach this.
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>>107504125
for the bonus, retard. looks like you might have been scammed. ask a lawyer if the laws in your country allow that shit, just in case. lawyers won't charge you for a simple question.
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>>107504522
When you get experience, you learn to appreciate being shielded from the rest of the business. People hate developers, they're responsible for everything that is wrong with the product in their views. Better to not deal with that and also not get the occasional wider praise. People on the dev team know what you do, that's enough.

>>107504533
Bonus's are bonuses, they're not contractual and as it's a company wide thing, it's not a case of being targetted.
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>>107504574
>People on the dev team
I'm the only one in this department, so they actually don't and I have no one. I'm actually quite grateful just you are listening and responding to me. It makes me feel a bit better to discuss this. Thank you
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>>107502290
>performance review
Such a totally meaningless thing
Your performance does not set your salary
The job market does
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>>107504533
Furry larper you do not know anything about US Law or the Free Market. Study a few certs before forming an opinion.
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>>107504770
Take your meds anon.
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>>107504574
>Bonus's are bonuses, they're not contractual
anon... if your employer offers something, it could be considered a contract. I think it would be in my country.

>it's a company wide thing
and? if anything, that might be even worse for your employer

>>107504770
>you do not know anything about US Law
where did the other anon even mention being in the US? he actually said here >>107503635
>what amounts to $50k
so he could be being paid in other currency
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Is architect a comfy do-not much job?
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>>107504615
That's a "I need to review what I'm getting from this job" situation. Is there a chance of any career progression, is the money fine, are you continually getting experience in good skill areas? Easy to rot as a lone developer with no advancement routes.
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>>107504615
I'm not that anon but I'll try to give you some advice. Dealing with those types of people is a special type of hell for tech-oriented people. They exist off of appearances and feelings and backstabbing. Insomuch as you are shielded from them be thankful.

If you want to make more money then go ahead and start dipping your toes into that world, but you risk overstepping your immediate boss and getting burnt. Getting closer to where the money flows = more money, but every executive and higher up has their own shit going on and can't think of or thank every peon that pops up.
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>>107504805
Rope yourself pathetic miserable A+less furnigger. You have never had a job in your life.
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Finally got my work laptop! Gonna throw Kubuntu and SteamOS on this bitch dualboot hehe
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>>107504840
I'm happy with the money, and my company does these title bumps, rather than different jobs being much different... Last month I looked for job and there was nothing in my country. I applied to 50ish places and they were all fairly sus.

I do a bunch of side projects, so I feel like I can keep up, but yet, being so alone like this is still an atrophy compared to others.

>>107504876
Yeah, it's pretty sweet I can go weeks without being contacted by colleagues. That is something to be happy about in a few ways.

I don't want to manage people. I don't think it's a needed role. everyone can write their own reports, and those can be digested by am AI (the managers role).

It's a privilege to work on problems, not looking for problems to pair with solutions

cheers dude
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>>107504431
>>107504522
You're part of a team. The manager is shielding you from rabid clients that will try everything in their power to make your life hell if they even knew you were on this project. The less the client knows about the actual organization of the team, the better. At least for a manager it is better, because they can now decide to assign people to the mission at their leisure.
Besides, it's true. "We" is a correct term to use, even if you don't like it. You represent the team. You are letting your ego get in the way. It feels good to have people give you pats on the back but it feels less good when you are personally blamed for shit going on, and having clients that could have a problem with YOU in particular. When that day comes around, you'll be very happy that everyone keeps saying "the team" instead of "retarded anon over there". Trust me.
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>>107504796
KYS gay faggot furnigger. Fags go to HELL when they die. You should go real soon now that everyone knows you're stolen valor. :)
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>>107505104
The "clients" are only colleagues. We don't face outside the org, and pur colleague are teddy bears. I trust you though, it's nice to hide in a shadow, but this dude does cast one with our situation. This is why I suspect he's clinging onto grassroots. Nothing major going on and he "needs this" for something his "team" (me) achieved with his awesome leadership (anon, do X, here is what the colleague said they wanted - no it's not digested for you, it's verbatim)
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>it's another "IT zoophiles won't give me the admin password to my laptop" episode
Looks like I'll have to put Kali on it bare metal. Why are furfaggots like this?
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>>107504248
I was in your shoe before but honestly yeah, your work is suppose to be in the shadows. If you want the fame and glory, yeah become a manager but then you have to deal with tardwrangling, decision making, and office politics. I'd rather not, so I put my head down nod when nod and keep on trucking along.
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>>107505224
Oh someone's going to learn today. kek let me guess european?
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I wish to learn enlightenment at work. I used to be a really stressed out wiglet but I realized if I turn my brain off and just stop overthinking (even if it's for the company or project's benefits) things get much better. Yes. This project is retarded and that's okay. Just say yes and do the work and if anything's so dumb just say "nope can't do it" otherwise yup! I'll look into it.
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>>107505225
Okay, well I appreciate you sharing and discussing this

I wish there was a more dignified way for you to work, but you seem to be doing ok?
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>>107505163
Yeah I don't know your exact work structure and what you do, I'm just saying, I think the situation is okay. I understand your frustration, but also if you view it from his POV, it's probably just that he has the kind of mindset I'm talking about (often seen in big4), to always invoke "we", "the team", before talking about specific people. seems like you havent been in that sort of environment yet, but man, when you're in those, you're really happy someone is tard wrangling for you for some stuff.
The best of both worlds is to find a way to let your manager know that you like knowing if you're doing a good job, and basically get some credit that way. Mentally you'd probably feel better. He probably also doesn't realize you're feeling like he's stealing your thunder. It's also the only thing that matters, anon. If your manager and your higher ups in general are happy with what you do, that matters more than whatever the fuck the retarded shit clients have to say. ik you are in a different type of org but just keep that in mind. Ego can get you in trouble.
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>>107505231
I am American and WHITE cybersec chad you retarded faggot kill yourself.
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>>107505273
As I said if you want razzle dazzle you can move up, but that trades in some other stupid shit which can be better or worse for you. You just gotta throw your ego/pride away. Don't let work define you. Do the bare minimum for shit you don't like and feel free to let loose for shit you do like and honestly for me, if that means I stay in the shadows and can put my head down to work on stuff I like rather than be in hour long meetings of people fucking going around in circles when the solution is freaking bonkers. Listen, I don't agree with a lot of what my manager does or the direction of our projects, but once you learn to stop caring, it's just whatever. As long as they don't throw you under the bus, it's all fine with me even if upper management keeps asking for retarded stuff.
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>>107505289
>>107505224
is this a larp?
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I finally had my first
>good morning, quick call?
moment

Was kinda thinking it was just a meme but it's all real
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Maybe it is bipolar, but I really wonder why some days I'm just like "meh work is good nothing bothers me" and then other days it's "OMFG I HATE EVERYONE STOP MESSAGING ME AHHHH".

I should start tracking things to figure out what causes me to feel like this randomly.
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is posting anti-furfag shit like >>107505028 a meme now?
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>>107502290
>best software in the world (gnu/linux)
>developed ad hoc and asynchronously
>at work
>hurr anon let's talk live
no we don't need a god damn phone call or drive into the office and touch each other like faggots to do this
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>>107505331
>throw you under the bus
Yeah if they do that, then that is bullshit. A manager gets to reap the benefits of good results, AND must be on the hook for bad results.

If your manager privatizes the gains but socializes the losses, he's shitty and deserves your ire.
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>>107505361
I just ignore everyone that messages me without clearly stating what he wants.

>>107505395
>I should start tracking things to figure out what causes me to feel like this randomly.
I've done that already, here are my insights:
>happens only from monday to friday
>I hate people
>I hate working
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>>107505817
kek seems accurate.
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>>107503112
The version in the last thread that didn't have a blue checkmark retard's useless post surrounding the text was better.
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>>107505878
Glad it helped, anon.
Follow me on LinkedIn for more tips and the occasional coke-fueled narcissist rant
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>>107505224
You have no idea what I am going through nigger.
I need 3 passwords and 2FA just to open my PC in the morning
I need another 3 passwords and 2FA just to see prod or run a query.

I get locked out after 10 mins everywhere and have to reenter my passwords.
I have no copy paste and have to manually type everything or move txt files with the stuff I need to run from a secret secret server we have still open that nobody knows about.

I can only develop inside a shitty windows VM.
I can only see the dev db when Im in the corpo VPN.
If I need to dl a package or ask Claude something, I have to exit the VPN, turn off the proxies, do what I need to do, then do the reverse, or I can't even see the fucking DB.

I have completely given up on communicating with other teams. It will take months just to register a simple GET API the proper way.
We just do everything under the table at this point and hope cybersec doesn't catch us.

It is fucking hell.

Meanwhile despite all the shit, some nigger from my team managed to have on of his apps hacked.
And guess what happened?
He got a big fat promotion.

It's a complete circus and you need to kys.
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>>107505224
>some HR roastie asks for my password
>refuse
>said some higher level roastie told her it's OK
>tell her that God himself could ask for it and he wouldn't get it
>keeps insisting
>report her to security department
>gets fired
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>>107505395
look man everyone has mood swings, there's no need to pathologize everything
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>>107505395
That's just normal everyday life.
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>>107506231
I know but it's been sporadic when it comes to work. I could have the exact same scenario happen and my brain will 50/50 if it freaks out or "meh I'll just do the standard steps and see where it goes from there"
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>>107506258
I know as a man, soiciety kinda expects you to be an emotionless robot but no need to internalize that completely. It's fine to feel different emotions as long as you don't publicly cry.
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>>107505395
that's... normal? having to endure retarded normies and, even worse, incompetent coworkers and managers fucking sucks
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>>107505395
When this happens I just take a deep breath, remember it is unnatural to get mad at someone who doesn't know any better for acting like an idiot, double the estimate of whatever task I'm doing and take a break from work watching TV or going for a walk.
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>>107506312
>>107506297
man it might be depression tbf i've had bouts where at night i have trouble sleeping going "oh fuck oh fuck why didn't i try harder in school, why didn't i try harder to make friends, why was i such a scared social butterfly, this is it im going to fucking die alone oh fuck oh fuck oh fuck" then the morning hits and it's like "meh anyways, time to hit the gym." yeah yeah depression doesn't exist, trying to teach my brain that. you guys feel the same too?
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>>107506333
I did exceed my limits with my education so I'm satisfied with where I'm at academically or career-wise. Maybe a CS masters in the future and some certs, but my pay is okay, considering the market.
As for >tfw no gf or real friends, it is what it is. I take care of my appearance and health and go to the gym, so maybe I'll one day get both, probably have to put some effort in.
There's no real point in regretting anything. My biology and social background were hard limits to begin with, even overcoming some of that is praiseworthy.
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>>107506333
yeah
can you get this fix done for the client though? thanks
ill be back neve- i mean later
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>>107506386
sure why not. just put the ticket in progress and read the notes just put the ticket in progress and read the notes just put the ticket in progress and read the notes wait what the what the heck do you mean my account does not work what the fuck does that mean? I don't even DO account access stuff.
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Are you the "brains" of your team?
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>>107506440
I'm the "used to be productive but now my life has turned to shit" of my team
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>>107505395
the difference between having a had a good night's sleep or not
or being hungry

it's the simple things and yet we don't notice them
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>>107506440
Yes but only because everyone else is a jeet
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>be me
>get new greenfield project at work
>I get to decide tech stack
>Needs to be something most of the rest of the team knows or likes so there's no learning curve
>Don't want to do typescript/react again because I hate both of them
>Ask everyone on the team what their preferred backend/frontend langs/frameworks are
>Typescript/React is literally the only tech stack they know
>"Well I played with python once..."
>These people have job titles like "Senior software architect" and "principle engineer"
>Have to do project in typescript/react

How did our industry fall this far? Why don't any software engineers have more general programming skills? Why is everyone a bootcamp grad now?
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>>107507719
>be webshitter
>why is everyone a shitter????
rtard
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I am a QA subhuman and deserve nothing but scorn and laughter
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>>107507765
We are looking to hire one of you fags. Give us advice on how to best humiliate you.
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>>107507719
>get to decide tech stack
>cuck yourself anyway
you should have chosen whatever the fuck you want
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>>107507719
I always go with Angular and Kotlin + Spring Boot because all alternatives suck ass and become unmaintainable messes. Even bootcampers can't fuck up a single isolated component too much.
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>>107508053
This but Django instead of Spring Boot
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>>107508053
This but .NET instead of Spring Boot
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>>107507719
i don't think this is unique to the current gen. in the old days it was J2EE/ASP.NET. before that it was PHP all over the place
if your team isn't forced to interact with new tech they're just going to gravitate to their comfort stack when you ask them a question like that
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raise you're hand if your vaccinated
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>>107505761
it must be. im normally the anon who posts kiibo, the male robot from danganrompa and recently someone else is now using him just to trigger that sperg so we're at like, at least 3-4 "furfaggots" now, all simultaniously triggering someone who thinks we're the same person

or something like that
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>>107508231
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>>107508023
No need, the job title is already humiliating enough
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>>107505361
>yeah sure
>*typing*...
>*3 hours later*
>
>*end of the day*
>
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>>107508053
I always go with your mom.
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>>107508226
>if your team isn't forced to interact with new tech they're just going to gravitate to their comfort stack when you ask them a question like that
It's also usually a good idea. If you need to build something, the default "best" tech available to you is something you already know. Especially if building a new company. You can always switch tech stacks once you make money and start hitting bottlenecks.
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Is anyone still remote? How about actively defying rto?
I have a problem not with my manager but with other colleagues asking to discuss things in person. If I humor them and come in then they're busy and we don't even talk. It's completely disrespectful of my time but I can't really complain or do anything because we're supposed to be in for these pointless drop in sessions.
These fuckers will probably rat me out and cause problems to my manager who has taken a don't ask don't tell policy.
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>>107508717
>Is anyone still remote?
im 100% remote and whenever there are irl meets (they fly us all to the primary office city) i go, and make use of their open bar tab
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>>107508787
Nice
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If leadership doesn't care about the issue, then I don't care about the issue. It will now forever remain in Jira limbo.
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>>107508843
thus to all non major bugs (defects) (tickets)
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Look
Basically I'm just not gonna go to the company holiday party
I know.. UGH I know..
IM SORRY!
It's just that I'm not going is all
Hahahaha
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>>107509102
Kek me neither. I bet the last remaining maskie went though.
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>>107509102
Our company also has a pitch in charity thing this year. Usually I donated like 50 bucks, but this year I have decided that I have empathy fatigue in general and Im not donathing shit to anyone, the company can pay their own good PR
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I need to win the lottery
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>>107509556
i havent played the lottery in a while but my grandma just died and she had struck my mom out of the will and put me in her place. Idk how much, im not getting it until after the next tax year but according to the ones sorting things out its "probably less than you make but nothing to sneeze at". Mind you they probably assume i make like, $160k+ a year when i dont

I dont make that much, so they are probably wrong. I was given the oportunity to ask but i chose to be surprised

>inb4 furfaggot
no, im spartacus

>inb4 what would you use it on
something realistic like a new roof, but thats only $20-30k idk what to do with the rest
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>>107508275
>>107508787
>>107509820
Stop copying me anon. This "Furfaggot" hate that you have is making you larp as me and it's annoying.
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>>107509820
>idk what to do with the rest
Depends on your circumstances. Do you own a home? This could be your deposit
If you have a home and can continue to afford the mortgage on it you should just invest it in an ETF and don't touch it
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>>107509102
My company is generally ok but the difference between holiday parties now and when I was a line cook is night and day. No, I don't want to stand around for 3 hours talking about whatever bullshit show is popular on Netflix right now while upper management tries to get people to drink more after having cancelled end of year bonuses.
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>>107510037
why do you chose to do this of all things in your free time?
>>107510080
>Do you own a home?
if i didnt i wouldnt be thinking about replacing my roof
>This could be your deposit
possibly, that will alleviate the cost of interest
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>>107510111
Stop schizo posting anon. There are no furries here.
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>>107504816
Architect is a bullshit job.
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>>107504816
No you have to be good at finding memory hogs
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>>107510111
>Do you own a home?
>if i didnt i wouldnt be thinking about replacing my roof
Gee you could have been a good boy and replacing the roof on your family's home
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I have a contract position as a software developer. I currently make about 85k + overtime as a contractor. I do a lot of overtime since the team I'm on is very small (4 of us including myself).
My team wants to add me as a full time employee, but the offer I got was 80k. I'll also be expected to be on call. According to my coworkers, on call is the worst part of the job.
The salary range posted for the position was 75k-85k and I actually initially asked for 90k.
If I take this position, I would be getting WAY better benefits, but the pay is way below what I currently make. But I also don't know if I'll be able to get another job like this. The one thing I like about this job that made me stay despite the amount of work is that it's 100% remote. Also I haven't gone job searching in a while but I've heard it's incredibly difficult to find a job doing software development right now.
I'm honestly not sure what I should do here.
Should I take the offer? I'm leaning towards yes, because even though the pay is worse, I at least secured a job. They mentioned raises, but my coworkers told me they hardly get a raise and if they do get something it's usually very small. I already spoke to HR 3 times already trying to negotiate. I feel like I'm getting cucked but the other option is having no job.
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salaries: frozen
promotions: frozen
yeh, it's time to bail
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>>107503112
lgtm
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"on call" is code for "you're my bitch 24/7", right?
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>>107510507
>If I take this position, I would be getting WAY better benefits, but the pay is way below what I currently make
What kind of benefits are better than MONEY
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>>107510673
i remember being on an on-call rotation. I just didnt answer, lol
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I want to die
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why are we here, just to fucking suffer (create """shareholder""" value)?
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>>107510507
Consider the total pay package, not just base salary. Bonuses, raises, healthcare, profit sharing, stock plans, 401(k) match, etc.
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how do i "go to market" with my startup? I built an mvp already
do i need to like.... put it on a truck?
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>>107511058
Y-Combinator is the most well known methods. You can also consider becoming a penny stock.
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hey /g/, i quit being a helpdesk monkey and it guy (got my CCNA in high school in 2002) to be a lawyer and i am fucking miserable.

Was making the switch the wrong move? Debt free mid 5 figures at 18 supported my cocaine habit through. Now my 250k lawyer salary feels like less money... no coke habit either.
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>>107511083
i applied to yc a while back, they rejected me
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>>107511136
Some tech guys make less and others make more. You can focus your lawyer stuff on Tech related stuff but you are really not missing much.
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>>107511136
Aren't you a little too old to be making posts like this?
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>>107511144
bro I'm doing old fashioned civ lit pit fighter... defending the innocent corporation from "injured" people 6 minutes at a time.

Boo Hoo you lost your arm. You should have read the fucking safety guidelines and mitigated your damages loser.

>>107511177
Of course. If I don't partner in 6 months, it's time to shingle. Just curious if the grass is greener among the 40-year-old tech boomers.
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>>107510507
What hemisphere are you from? 80-90K is terrible for a dev role. This is a troll post right?
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I BROKE PROD FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY CAREER TODAY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>107511565
The poor customers.
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helicopters
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>>107511214
Cool story poor fag.
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>>107511810
KILL THIS NIGGER ON SIGHT
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I got a fucking job! 6 figures, fully remote and in the field I love. Only took 2000 applications over 2.5 months.
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>>107511933
gratz but desu i enjoyed job hunting more than i do working
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>>107511956
I enjoyed going to japan while I raked in 2.4k a month unemployment, but it ran out a few months ago. Hated the actual job hunting. 5-6 hours a day of putting in apps and reaching out to companies and recruiters.
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>>107512008
eh, 5 to 6 hours is too many, i did like 2 at the most each day on apps
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>>107512114
fuck that. i wanted a good job quick. i got enough rest in. my typical week was lift for 2 hours and apply for 5-6 hours every weekday and then go to concerts on the weekend. im also kinda stubborn, so if i dont get results i just keep trying harder and different approaches until i get what i want. it started off with like an hour or two a day and spiralled up to the 5-6 hours once i got into a rythym.
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>>107512153
Idk what you would spend all that time on though
Guess we just have different approaches
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goodnight /twg/
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Why are this furfaggot in the fucking thread, bros? He literally does not even have a job.
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>>107512217
Applying to as many jobs as possible
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>>107512217
my ratio of callbacks increased dramatically when i started only applying to stuff that genuinely looked interesting and where i could write a cover letter that actually highlighted some real experience/interest in whatever the company does, and did eventually get a job (that im sure i'll hate in 3 to 6 months but w/e i make more than my local dimebag dealers do)
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The de facto lead developer at the company insists on communicating via video calls. Almost never writes anything. If he bothers making a Jira instead of just calling you about what he wants and expecting you to create the Jira about his requirements, the Jira is written by Claude. But it's okay because we have "AI meeting notes that will just take down everything needed".

He wanted me to start working on something after I finished my current task, but he called me using a 1:1 Slack huddle, so there weren't even AI meeting notes.
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>>107512525
Honestly what worked for me was a full resume rewrite. I told ChatGPT to be as brutal as possible with its criticism from the perspective of a recruiter, hiring manager and ATS. I then added bs metrics to as many tasks as possible and trimmed the fat of my skills section. Thats what finally got me the job. Didnt bother with cover letters, I eventually got the job off an easy apply on zip recruiter. I also did alot of interview prep in the form of technical questions, rehearsing speeches, and watching videos on how to interview well.
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>>107510129
Bullshit do nothing job that’s also well paid? Sign me the fuck up
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>>107512842
it's ok anon 5 more years and you will turn into a cute anime girl of your dreams
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What are some good alternatives to Linkedin in EU? I hate this fucking shit.
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>>107511933
>2000 applications over 2.5 months.
What did you use to automate that?
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>>107513329
But (s)he will still have to work.
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> my friend (fresh grad) couldn't get a job after more than 100 applications, so I put in a word for him at my company
> he gets the job
> he gets assigned to work with me on a project, I'm basically his mentor for a few weeks
> pic is mfw I'm starting to see why he was having trouble with getting a job

Am I crazy or is re-implementing a function that was already implemented just fine in the parent class (defined no more than 50 lines above) stupid even for a newbie?
I told him to spend as long as he needs to familiarize himself with the codebase but he announced that he's ready to go and then does shit like this. Are all juniors this impatient and superficial? I have less than one year of experience myself but I don't remember being like this. He also has no idea how to think with type systems because he did all of his university projects in python.
I spent an hour this morning explaining an implementation of the listener-observer pattern to him and I'm still not sure he gets it.

I will probably be asked to give my opinion when his trial period ends, and I hope he gets his shit together by then because I cannot vouch for this, not even for a friend.
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The day has started 40minutes ago.

Gonna be a CT (Comfy Thursday) bros?
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>get new job
>need to get up at 6am to start my 90 minute long commute
>5 months in
>still can't get more than 6 hours of sleep
>literally changed my entire routine just to revolve around trying to sleep better
>feel miserable, can't remember anything, exhausted constantly, extremely paranoid im going to be fired
>fall ill
>WFH for a week
>managed to start sleeping properly again
>instantly feel like my IQ has doubled, no longer constantly stressed
>go back to office for 2 days
>terrible sleep instantly

this is horrible, I actually liked my last job despite being way worse on paper than this one simply because it was unlimited WFH. But now I'm really, beginning to resent work. I might quit and brave another 7 month long job search tbqh
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I keep daydreaming about going to office, calling everyone a NIGGER and quitting.
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>>107514714
I nap for like 5 mins at work twice a day and my only nap dreams involve getting fired by saying bad shit or looking up porn at the work computer.
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Should I aim for a project manager or architect path?

I know that these are hard to compare.
Mostly, I'm comparing the ease of finding a new job (if there will be one, with AI), and money.
From my current, tech-orientrd, perspective, architect role feels more prestigious and easier to go back to coding/ops from, but maybe upper management sees pms as more valuable.
PM feels like something that'd make me compete with all the "lazy girl boss" normies, but it has word 'manager' in title.
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>Suddenly reminded of the part of Billy Madison where the judge roasts him
>Watch the academic decathlon scene
>Laugh
>Get to business ethics question
>("The American business environment has fundamentally changed following the insider trading and savings and loan scandals. Explain business ethics and how they're applied today.")
>Realize I genuinely can't define business ethics and would have no idea how to answer that question
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even recruiters that reach out first ghost you now
what are we even doing at this point
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>>107515297
Just draw a big star of david eating a little star of david like a pacman
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I am going to tell you a story of how I got a job that I am still working, three years ago. The story of retardation and unimaginable incompetence. It all starts with me quitting a stupid MSP gig and wanting to work in a less corporate environment, on the last job I worked as a Windows sysadmin with light CentOS/Ubuntu, Hyper-V. The MSP job was the only real sysadmin experience I had, lots of enterprise setups, lots of work /w AD and all things Windows, even the fucking DPMs which I hate to this day.

>2022, leave job because it sucks and i'm always stressed
> too many tickets, too many complaints about just about fucking everything
> fuck you Janice from HR
> look for job
> find a small local company working in finance, ~ 30 employees
> apply, talk /w lovely old owners and get hired ( red flag)

First day was basically a warm handoff, going over where things are and the topology of the network.
> Simple AD setup /w all devices connected to the AD ( more on that later)
> Simple network topology, one hardware firewall for the office area, one VPN tunnel for employee devices
> Half a dozen printers ( fuck), one file share server
> Security handled through ESET ( whew, i like ESET)
> Go through the physical setup, where each of the boxes are situated, how labelling is handled etc.

So far so good right? Second day is where shit hits the fan
> Active Directory is comprised of two domain controllers, pretty standard right?
> Both ADs are on a single dedicated box as twin Hyper-V VMs - fuck
> Per old guy, " the piece of shit goes down every few weeks but I tell them that I'm running a maintenance"
> Both ADs are Windows Server 2012r2 - fuck
> Learn about GPOs he dished out, learn about the DNS set up
> Everything is fucking stupid
> Anika the HR kraut has unrestricted domain admin access

This is just foreplay, I have a couple of good stories that happened over the past three years aside from nerd shit.
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>>107514562
Working with friends is not a good idea.
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>>107515348

To give you guys a little taste of Active Directory retardation I endured, I'll disclose what happened early on ~ two weeks into my employment with Dumpsterfire LLC.

> Go to work, still getting used to the environment, running menial tasks, oddly quiet, few AD user lockouts from a couple of places
> Start auditing the Active Directory and figuring out how to modernize the piece of shit
> Review ADUC, notice that out of 42 devices, only 28 respond
> Huh
> Make rounds through the office
> WORKGROUP, WORKGROUP, WORKGROUP, dumpsterfire.local, WORKGROUP, WORKGROUP
> What the fuck?

And there we have it, this is why complaints about frequent AD outages weren't as bad. Turns out that most devices aren't joined to the active directory because fucking Anika the HR Kraut told everyone 2 years ago that they can use her account to disjoin their devices from the AD, thus getting more ''autonomy'' on their computers.

> Call old guy since he said he'd be available for questions as he's been working there for 30 years
> "Oh yeah, they didn't care about it and no one ever complained"
> Jesus fucking christ

Come to find out that half the office was team AD because they could pull stuff from the file share and half was team

> personal
>fucking
>USB
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>>107514637
I commute 15 minutes x2 three times a week and still have to wake up 90 minutes earlier than during my wfh days. Couldn't imagine living with just 6 hours of sleep per night.
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>>107515348
>>107515405
Explain me how any of this is a problem as long as the paycheck keeps coming.
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>>107515405
Non issues anon. You are a cry baby by the looks of it. Also consider reading books that pertain to your job and it will help you greatly in these situations.
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>>107515433
See, this is where we fundamentally disagree.
I could have left everything as is, but there's also a chance that everything comes crashing down because of the infrastructure at the time being extremely, extremely retarded. Which puts me out of a job.

Back in 2022, I think October, I ran a security test to see how employees respond to phishing e-mails. I sent out a simple phishing e-mail which named Dumpsterfire LLC by name and sent it to the entire company e-mail alias ( handled through thank fuck, gmail workspaces at the time).

Out of 37 recipients, 32 opened the e-mail, out of 32 who opened the e-mail, 30 downloaded the attachment which was called dumpsterfire.dll. 5 employees were on paid time off.

Coupled with a reasonable amount of users using personal USBs and at the time still disjoined computers and no ESET on the workstation, this sets a precedent that we are all doomed, which funnily enough happened in 2023 because one of the retards kept denying my requests to join the device to the AD, delegate some GPOs and management wouldn't force them to do it because:

'our employees should be empowered to seek solutions on their own as much as you should be empowered to advise them on best practices'

Also, bear in mind that at the time, I was still in the corporate sysadmin mindset, where a few minutes of downtime was treated as end of everything.
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>>107514810
Architect role no doubt
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>>107515453
Indeed, these are non-issues if your user base is agreeable and happy to modernize.
In all my employment /w Dumpsterfire LLC, every attempt to modernize and improve was met with extreme levels of scrutiny.

I convinced the boss to splurge some money on new infra, so right now we're at a good spot, the first few years however were an absolute disaster.

Cry baby? Perhaps, but I don't think wanting to make sure your infra is running and will be running in the foreseeable future is a hallmark of a crybaby.
I'm sure that reading books about retards could help me a great deal with dealing with my user base, but I'm no psychologist.
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>>107515492
>happy to modernize.
No corporate or government place in the world wants to modernize anything unless it is free to the company.
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Team morale is really low this month despite it being Christmas. It's a bummer.
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>>107515524
We achieved quite a lot this month so morale is relatively good. Still friction with the external team but they'll be gone soon anyway.
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>"Hi Team, looks like this account doesn't have the entitlement added to the account. Can you repush the entitlement?"
>"@anon, regarding your ticket - could you please clarify what actions are required from our end? Kindly reply with the needful"
..............
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>>107515576
You need to repush the needful with entitlement kind saar.
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>changed career into IT
>join new team
>technically, feel like I fucking suck and that others are light years ahead of me
>team is full of introverts
>i like talking a lot, so I contrast with the rest of my team
>manager and clients like me because I'm good at talking and not a complete introvert
>as a result, manager thinks I'm a genius
>clients give me very good feedback because I am at ease when dealing with their problems
>it's likely i get promoted quickly despite me being absolutely shit at technical stuff compared to the rest of the team
I am such a fucking fraud holy fucking shit i hate myself
how much time before they find out how much of a fraud I am and fire me
or is this the norm
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>>107515802
don't.
work is literally all this.
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How detailed are you in your performance review? I know I'm definitely getting a meets expectation and that's fine but I don't want to look like I'm not trying on the review.
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>>107516072

It's worthless and performative, don't worry about it. They're going to rig it to say whatever they want to say about you. If they're not planning on cuts, they'll give you a pat and a raise. If they want you to quit, they will give you a grimace and no raise.
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>>107516072
I haven't had one in my new job and I don't even know if we have performance reviews. I don't have a manager and don't know who would be doing it.
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>>107515348
>>107515405
this is what tech autism looks like
funny to read what someone who has never worked outside of a big (tech) corporation thinks of the average small office
you know normies don't give a shit about any of these "issues", right? as long as the "tech" guy comes and fixes things, it's all ok.
have a reminder: tech is not their end goal, it's a tool. and for them it's annoying as fuck.


btw, if you care so much... you do know you are being paid to fix shit, right? have fun.


>>107515475
>there's also a chance that everything comes crashing down because of the infrastructure at the time being extremely, extremely retarded
anon, you said
>>> Per old guy, " the piece of shit goes down every few weeks but I tell them that I'm running a maintenance"
did you notice that no one ever cared?

>>107516072
>performance review
in my case, perf review is made up bullshit.
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>>107516088
I'm to the point with my manager where it's like "You're doing a good job" "no money no raise no bonus sorry" and we both know there's actually no money for a raise/bonus lmao. at least in our department. I'm fine with that I don't really care either way. It's just more of I don't want to be writing a damn fake essay for this but I don't want to present a blank sheet either.

Annoys the shit outta me the only time they gave me my yearly bonus was when I was 3 months in and it ended up like $200 because I didn't work the full year.....
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Anyone know a good way to keep track of all the tickets I work on at work? I'm constantly switching between them, and not even having tabs of the work tickets open is enough. I only have a laptop screen, a vertical screen, and a large primary screen, and I still dont feel like it's enough.
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>>107516171
anon, everyone in tech knows that you shouldn't stay more than 2 years with the same company, and that the way to get a raise is to jump ship as soon as you get an offer.
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>>107516266
?
>Main Ticket Tab (Monitor 3)
>Ticket you're working on (Monitor 2)
>Troubleshooting (Monitor 1)
>overwatchporn (Monitor 4)
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>>107516269
i don't care about raises i just want my fricking bonus
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>>107516270
Laptop monitor I use for email and slack. Very small.
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>>107516284
You don't need slack open 24/7 and when you do need it, it should cover all ticket monitor
actually who fucking cares do whatever you want im not gonna micromanage you in how you use your monitors
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Comfy Thursday is nearing an end, bros
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>>107516291
My work uses Slack for all their realtime communications since we're remote only
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I just got notified that I made it to the final round of interviews with a fortune 500 company.
I'm practicing STAR stories but are there any other fields I need to review? It's for a security position.
Never made it this far in the process with a company of this scale before.
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>>107516294
It was rather comfy for me
>woke up at 6:30 before the alarm went off
>get out of the bed at 7:00
>log on my computer
>make coffee and a sandwich
>check a couple of emails and do nothing till 10:00
>daily
>do nothing again
>yearly all hands at 11:00
>leave it playing in the background and go for a walk
>get home at 12:00
>eat something
>read docs for a while
>browse 4chan
>make pasta and have lunch
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>>107505279
>>107505104
I just got my annual review and my manager got an LLM to write it for him. It LITERALLY says "anons commitment to his work is what makes me a great asset to the company".

How the fuck do I even react to this? It like confirming all my suspicions that he's using my work to benefit him.
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>find separate issue during pr
>tell boss man
>asked to write it up
>asked to test
>put on release call

last time I do that
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>>107516378
?
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>>107515297
>business ethics
Exploit employees until the smart ones quit, pay executive bonuses and give executives raises.
Continue to exploit employees until the stupid ones quit, pay executive bonuses and give executives raises.
Take company into bankruptcy to restructure debt, pay executive bonuses and give executives raises.
Layoff remaining exploited employees who did not quit, replace with jeets, thank laid off employees for their service and regretfully inform there is not money to pay severence, pay executive bonuses and give executives raises
Sell off all company assets, pay executives golden parachute retirement packages.
Join new organization as an executive, negotiate golden parachute retirement package.
Repeat.
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>>107516608
Damn I wish Iw ere an execuchad
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>>107516162
>you know normies don't give a shit about any of these "issues", right? as long as the "tech" guy comes and fixes things, it's all ok.
that is only true for i.t. and i.t. is not Tech. Tech is a wonderous thing that is building the future from scratch. Sorry you were too stupid to even get a programming certification.
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>>107515405
>> personal
>>fucking
>>USB
there is nothing wrong with this (other than annoying normies who lose them and demand new ones (not the data loss just them storming into my office as if them misplacing their usb stick is my fault))
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>>107516640
Nah.... My golden parachute retirement package was negotiated by Christ, I can wait.
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>>107513605
I didnt automate it outside of using speedy apply to fill fields out.
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>>107512888
i stopped caring about my resume because honestly 99% of listings are either on indeed, where they will just use YOUR indeed listing (you can "build a resume" right on it so its more easily searchable by employers' hr cancerware) or you have to re-enter all that shit on a workday knockoff anyway and you never have enough space within the character limit to say anything truly self-promoting
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I'm confused what this guy is mad about, I use LLM to write most of my "professional" stuff like performance reviews and stuff. I don't let it write emails though since that's a bit too formal for it.
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>>107516773
Did you get a job yet though? The resume change made a big difference in callbacks. Also I found indeed to be really really bad.
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I'm starting to see this more on my commute and it's the cringiest shit
>go on subway to get to work
>some chink zoomer is filming himself saying fake compliments to everyone
what the type of faggy ass trend is this?
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man, the furfag really broke the minds of many retards ITT >>107516660 LMAO
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>get wfh job
>wfh
>wfh
>5 days a week
>wfh
Last time I am doing that
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>>107516911
Because Americans allow these retards to exist and make money.
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>POV: you're about to talk about the latest shitcode ChatJeetPT churned out for you at your bullshit government IT job
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>>107517058
Sure as fuck beats working 5 days at the office.
Would you rather waste at least 2 hours every day commuting?
Just have a cheeky wank on company time.
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>>107517168
I'm just being silly
I do miss meeting new people (I often hook up with a girl per company), but life is comfy
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>>107517047
kys
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>got into web dev at 30 because I hated my job and I liked computers
>seemed like the most viable option without a cs degree or experience in the field
>6 years later, boring job, boring computers
It's my fault to be honest, I should have left this company but the pay was decent for my country standards and I was unsure about my skills.
Not sure if trying to spark some motivation, learning more shit and find another job or just stay here till I'm 40 then aim for a government office job.
Honestly programming stopped being fun the very moment it became my job.
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>>107517544
I never liked programming in my free time but as a job it is decent enough. There's this hobby programmer at 30 who is still trying to get into the industry despite how bad it is right now.
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>>107517544
programming is more about coding.
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>interviewing saar
>ask him to do x
>"how would you do x"
>"yes so I would import solution"
>yeah...that's not really the right solution, how would you do it custom
>"I wouldn't do this, seems too wasteful"
ok great, thanks for making my job easy
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I work with a fat Indian woman who always heats her strong smelling Indian food. No one uses the work fridge, cause she fills it up.
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>>107517794
My department is gigajeeted but at least they're all in jeetland and I don't have to witness their repulsive sight outside of calls
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>>107510129
>Architect is a bullshit job.
My last two jobs existed due to the fact they never hired an architect to do shit right.
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>>107517779
What was X even?
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>>107518322
making a circular buffer for error event replaying
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Suddenly have access to add emojis to our Slack instance. I'm adding so many frogs.
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>>107515524
yep not excited to go to my multiple christmas events desu
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>>107516672
Congrats on outing yourself as a permaNEET, anon.
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>>107515802
>get a job
>fast track yourself into management where you get paid way more than the codemonkeys
>come to 4chan to complain about it
???
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Europe has almost fallen. Millions will die.
I want to GTFO and I'm currently looking at Asia. What's the most westoid-friendly place? Korea? Vietnam?
Do I look for a job there or try and find some remote gig here and do it there?
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>>107518793
I don't want to become a manager though, I like the technical stuff
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>take a break from work and go to the gym
>hear a familiar hindu babble coming from the the tricep push-down machine
>indian dude there with headphones
>talks non-stop into for 10 minutes while doing the same movement
it always fascinates me to think about what stories they have to tell each other. and it's always the hands-free headset too so they have their hands free while yapping on the bus, or just out on the street. i must imagine their communications are so urgent and inundative that hands free is warranted. kinda like wall street day trader, only unemployed
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>>107502290
some german anon tell me whats the IT job market like right now? Should I just graduate or do a master?
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>>107518924
man my gym has been plagued with them too and it's annoying since they all hog the machines
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>>107517779
you are a typical faggot of a hiring manager
sounds like he answered the question correctly by thinking out of the box but you just want to sound smarter than him
go fuck yourself
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just 6 more days of work to go before 3 weeks of Christmas vacation
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>>107516444
trips of despair
although if your performance is measured by ticket count then this seems like a good thing for your manager to see on your charts and dashboards
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>>107518965
im not a germ but as a fellow euro i would highly recommend looking for (unpaid) internships while staying in school. if you can have 2 yoe that you can spin as actual real lived work experience, you stand a pretty good chance of getting a big boy job once you graduate. it doesn't matter if you actually learned fuck all at that internship, it at least shows that you are capable of holding something down.

you can look for paid work too but companies are trying their hardest to see if they can kill off entry level jobs so that will probably be very hard to pull off without connections
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>>107516303
if I were you, the only field I would be reviewing is the field of remaining calm during interviews, for example breathing practice
otherwise it sounds like you're good anon
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>boss is away this week
>held the fort pretty well
>stuff that we ignored for the past months is starting to reel it's ugly head
>bunch of audit questions out of nowhere and each question looks like it's trying to pull a "gotcha"
fucking why????? can't you guys fucking go on vacation or something too.
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>>107519001
>wrong solution followed by rejecting the question is "thinking outside the box"
>>>/utwg/
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>>107518965
Employed German mid-tier dev here. The job market is catastrophic and companies are still in the process of slowly adopting AI. I'd do the masters AND get an internship. But don't trust what >>107519034 says, internships don't count as yoe, they are merely a pre-requisite to even getting an interview.
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>>107519262
oh yeah I'm totally unemployed just because you're retarded
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>/g/ does an interview
>"What's your favorite drink?"
your response?
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>>107519328
a nice, subtle whisky
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>>107519328
Pizza. What do you mean that's not what you asked? hire me bich basterd
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>>107518873
>I like the technical stuff
Wow you like the technical stuff AND can speak well. We're fast tracking you into management!
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>>107519328
Jaegerbombs and jim beam because of gg
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>>107519348
Surely there's another way, right?
I really don't want to have to do this
I guess I could freelance if I am forced in this direction or go to conferences and do presentations or whatever.
I just don't see myself being a tard wrangler for a living.
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>>107519299
>But don't trust what >>107519034 (You) says, internships don't count as yoe, they are merely a pre-requisite to even getting an interview.
well i did say you should try to "spin it" as yoe. as in
>ask if the company you're interning for if they're fine with saying your duties describe junior software engineer work late in the internship (maybe german corpo has less chill wrt this stuff), then mark the whole duration as junior engineering in your CV
>tell any interviewer that you *basically* worked as a junior SWE despite your title, and be prepared to spin a yarn about it
>otherwise avoid terms that imply internship in your CV, if you can at all help it
now you may say "that seems a bit dishonest" and i say yeah welcome to 2025 bitch. ultimately i don't think embellishing your experience is bad if you can walk the walk. on the contrary, i think whenever you successfully take a job that would otherwise go to a covid hire that can't do fizzbuzz but has 4 yoe, you are making the world a better place.
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>>107519299
master+unpaid internship just to get a 50k job? Is the german IT market as bad as the US one? I would have thought only webdev is affected from the crunch not finance or industry.
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>>107519299
>>107519427
actually i think we may not be talking about the same kind of internship. i had a 2 month internship that i did not even mark on my CV until the most direst of 2023 times, because it seemed like such a waste of time. but a friend of mine worked 2 years in a major company, technically as like a retard tier trainee, and i just told her to mark that shit as yoe, helped her with her take home work and helped her get a job (which she ultimately failed at because retard). and didn't even suck my dick for it btw i just did it because i hate recruiters and companies
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Don't be an asshole – don't book a meeting that ends at six o'clock on a Friday afternoon.
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I hate our leadership. They yap like a bunch of methed out monkeys. Talking incessantly about their idea of the next big thing just to front like they have a vision. Never actually doing anything.
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>>107519328
At home? Fris mixed with an equal part of lemon juice, a teasoon of stevia, and I add water to fill the cup.
At the company meetup with an open bar tab? As many random different drinks I can pound back for the duration. If you need me to slow down, just order me a "mezcal mule", the last one I had felt like I was drinking Vicks VapoRub but I'm not one to waste alcohol so I just drank it very slowly
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>>107519406
Wow humble and a self starter, you're in charge of stakeholder management and procurement too.
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Today for lunch at the Microsoft cafeteria I had a big bowl of pasta and it was... pretty good!
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>>107520346
Saar, I...
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>>107520346
My group is getting moved to the doldrums come February so I'll have to stop watching you from afar at the cafe
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>>107520382
I'm getting moved in the new year too. I'm probably going to quit because of it. My seat now has a decent view out the window and is near some good cafes. But after the move I'll be in some interior section with no windows and no good cafes nearby.
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that anon who calls everyone he disdains "furfaggot" is in /utwg/
I think he is like "certs are everything" because all he has is certs and no job and he doesn't like the fact that people with zero certs are happily employed working in IT
>>107500203

Thoughts on this stunning revalation?
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>manager decided he wants to send a weekly newsletter on our project
>makes us write it
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>>107520517
My sanity forces me to recognize it as a troll and not someone who actually thinks A+ matters to anyone
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>>107520517
i posted in that thread for the first time ever and that dude called me a furnigger and told me to kill myself. i don't even know who he's talking about. this place truly attracts the giga schizos
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>>107521104
>this place truly attracts the giga schizos
i'd be an angry schizo too if i spent all my time gathering certs and am still unemployed meanwhile certless faggots are employed
t. certless employed faggot
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>>107520826
write the newsletter bigot.
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what games are we looking forward to at the tga?
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>>107519328
I'd probably go full sperglord and answer something like
>"Mountain Dew. Wait, do you mean like an alcoholic drink? I like Four Lokos hahahaha, unless you mean when I'm out at like, the club or something, then I- you know, people usually assume I don't go to clubs, and I get why because I don't know how to do all this social stuff h*voice crack*ahahahaha ha but every so of- uhh, anyway when I'm out at a bar or club or whatever I usually order an AMF but sometimes they look at me weird like they've never heard of it and I'm like actually yeah I don't know what's in there either so I just order a whiskey sour, unless we're doing shots, then I'm a big fan of Smirnoff® Sour™ Berry Lemon©, that stuff's delicious, though usually they don't have it so I just go with whatever's cheapest, which I think was Tito's last time I was at, uhh... man where was that, I feel like it was [local pseudo-goth nightclub], or uhh... wait, sorry, did you mean alcoholic or, uhh, not alcoholic?"
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>>107503112
and this is why they all insist on changing their UI every year.
Google maps used to work great, but then some retard came up with the bright idea to estimate orientation by differentiating GPS position and using the resultant velocity vector to orient the map. So now, when you come to a stop and ANY change is measured from the gyro or accelerometer, it just loses track of its orientation. It used to work fine because it used the magnetometer, but of course the midwit who implemented the new method wanted to impress their boss because they took a calc class once. Probably an intern.
I thank God every day that I got out of that bullshit ratrace. Too bad all the services we've come to "love" are rapidly devolving because every new hire has to rewrite shit in the latest fad language to justify their inflated salaries.
There is no reason these glorified code plumbers should be making the same money as doctors who actually help people and have real consequences when they fuck up.
They need to cut SWE salaries down to the level of BA, accounting, or sales, so that it's commensurate with the actual dollar value they bring to the company. Problem is that there's not an easy way to objectively quantify the value a SWE adds to the company.
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>>107521769
I missed when companies added features and most importantly added options to the advanced features so you can customize its software.
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>>107505990
This is the norm.
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>>107519328
>"What's your favorite drink?"
otokonoko cum
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What a cursed response. And this is coming from a guy who's "witnessed" "stuff". I wouldn't drink that ever.
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>\twg\ is the only remotely tech thread on \g\
Feels really bad. I just want to talk tech with people online, so I do not feel a need to talk to coworkers.
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I work a job that I dislike.
I have been given a offering in another company for a job I would most certainly dislike too (with higher pay).
What would you do? Would you accept it?

Or perhaps I should stay where I am until I find something that interests me?
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>>107522172
I would just quit and neet for a few years (decades)
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Im really excited to start working next week! I'm gonna buy an SD-2 guitar as a christmas gift for myself.
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>>107504248
If your manager is also a dev, you should absolutely speak up if he's hogging all of the credit. Chances are he's a slimy snake taking advantage of your meek personality and talking shit behind your back. In order to deal with this, you need to drop hints or be explicit during meetings that you're responsible for all of the work. If you do nothing, he'll destroy your reputation until it becomes nothing. You won't even able to get a good reference for your next job.
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>>107504248
>How do I tackle this?
On a call

>that was some really great work you did, can you speak a bit on how you implemented x or how y works? it seems really interesting!

Do it enough and you'll either get a PIP or people will notice whats up.
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>>107522441
What are some decent discords to post in while you're sitting in 4 hours worth of useless meetings? I'm in a few tech discords but they're all rather dead. The bigger ones are overrun with jeets and redditors.

>>107504248
Bringing it up and confronting him about it.

>>107522441
> You won't even able to get a good reference for your next job.

Then you sue them. This is why formal references are rather useless. Everyone fears a potential lawsuit so they give a neutral reference at worse confirming the dates someone worked. The only thing you might get through a ref check is if someone worked there for a certain period, the rest is legally tricky to obtain.
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>>107520517
I have no certs, just a masters degree and 5 years of experience. Honestly it doesn't feel like much changed in the 5 years since I graduated uni. Except making friends got difficult as fuck as an adult.
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>>107522798
>Friends as an adult
This is the modern era you make friends with a harem of body pillows and you vill like it.
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>>107522823
Haha that's definitely not what I want to do. I'm coming out of a relationship and suddenly have seas of free time. I'm not even sure what people my age bracket do nowadays (26-32). Most of the interactions I have are superficial, shallow and creating any kind of depth of conversation is difficult. I have one extremely good friend and a few connections and that's about it.
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>>107516850
Yes, I got a job at a defence contractor making like 60k doing typical IT dustman shit. The pay sounds embarrassingly bad, and it is, but so is the rest of my country. but the benefits are pretty good.

It was also only one interview, when I broke down and emailed back asking "Did I not get it?" they responded within a few business days, and they paid me to sit at home doing nothing while I got a new clearance. Though no WFH ever again though. Airgapped system, please understand. (I can't even access it from my proper desk and have to go two rooms over to do anything useful)

>>107522404
Based anon treating himself. I already got myself some dragon dildos and new conventional non-lewd tools.

>>107519328
Ballistol
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what kind of retarded project should i start at work so i can look productive and abuse the company Digikey account
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>>107522738
>sued for references
lol do americans really?
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>burned out at current job
>been browsing linkedin for a week
>feel even more disgusted about this whole industry
I don't know if people are just playing pretend in order to fit in or everyone posting there is a genuine mentall ill freak
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>>107514562
he's giving you job security you ingrateful fuck
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>>107519328
Asian ladyboy nut
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>>107520826
I'd love that since I could just take an hour or two every week for writing.
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>>107516072
I let an LLM answer for me.
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How'd your annual review go, bros?
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>>107524460
Got downgraded from 4 to 3 (out of 5). Manager's excuse is that HR are forcing them to give 4 only to exceptional workers, while 5 are company-wide superstars. 3 is "good".
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>>107524460
Don't got one.
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I make 26k/year
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>>107524460
got postponed to next week because they are busy with layoffs
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>>107524784
How do you live or are you not in the US?
If you're working an internship then thats actually acceptable. My first internship was at a non-profit and I was making a meager $8 an hour as head IT admin for an office of ~20 people (and i was limited to 20 hours a week) and i actually enjoyed it and learned a lot. There was a contracting agency that placed me there and told me to come to them with questions and they were surprised how well i performed but looking back I would have done things completely differently.
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>>107524784
I make 69k€/year.
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>>107524845
EU yeah and I'm lucky to even have this job after a year of unemployment

>>107524853
Wow!
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>>107524871
>EU yeah and I'm lucky to even have this job after a year of unemployment
Yeah, thats rough, especially the pain of looking for work and being let down for that long. I was in the same boat in 2019 and the solution for me was identifying as hispanic on applications. The resulting job lasted 5 years until mass layoffs affected me.
I got a job fairly quickly, making less than I did before but the environment is friendly and the work is exciting, making it worth it. I hope yours is at least enjoyable too or at least you gain valuable experience from it
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>>107524871
Yah I make only 95k euro a year coming from 145k but I prefer the 95k role (wirh like +18k in retirement so more like 113k) any day. The 150k euro was contracting everything provision and was only that amount if I was working hours and got projects. Ideally it would be 180k but that's with no downtime / off days which never happens.

I might do it again though if I can get a project for a year with a more senior rate (so instead of charging like 80ish an hour I'd be charging 110+). I was very close to getting a year long (with high chance of renewal) at 120/hr for 36 hours per week, still a bit salty I didn't get it.



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