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microsofts world of warcraft will look like this in year 2026

tldr:
windows 11 enterprise if you want latest and greatest
windows 10 iot enterprise ltsc if you prefer stability over gaming
use group policies to disable most spying shit

>>107503306
>Use only if you fell for the 12th+ gen Intel meme and need the new CPU scheduler
Or if your laptop's OEM drivers don't support Windows 10 (like me)

>>107503306
Momo

>Installing Windows 11 Enterprise IoT LTSC 2024 on my Lenovo LOQ 15 laptop
>Wireless driver doesn't work
>Turns out I downloaded the wrong wireless driver (Realtek and not Intel)
I'm currently posting from Windows 11 Single Language Edition
brb I'm reinstalling Windows 11 Enterprise IoT LTSC 2024 again

what a shame ltsc is 24h2 not 23h2

>>107503306
Is there any way to de-enshittify W11?
Got the newest business build and it's still full of such absolute fucking bloat and slop that I want to nuke my install and switch to Linux or at least add a partition for it.
It's grim just how bad it's gotten. If only Paradox games weren't complete AIDS on Linux and VR wasn't a pain in the arse and it'd be so much easier.
I am a pig and I must consooom

>>107504473
>de-enshittify W11
recommend winhance

https://winhance.net/

the guy has an hour long video explaining what all it does too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrq3ph3xi50

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why is the new context menu so fucking big?

Having trouble with a xbox 360 wireless adapter.

It gets listed as a controller in Device management and it won't change to anything else.

If I uninstall the drivers, it disappears. But if I then unplug it and plug it back in, it goes back to being a controller.

Any help?

Back to Windows 11 Enterprise IoT LTSC 2024 for now

>>107503306
>Try to add my Hotmail account to Thunderbird
>"Log in, please"
>Sure. Now, I don't want to use Microsoft's Authenticator, just my password, please. Oh, there's the option...
>"wrong password"
>What do you mean? It isn't...
>Try again
>"wrong password, please reset it"
>Ugh, okay...
>New password, I can finally log in.

>Next day, trying to do the same for my phone...
>"wrong password, too many attemps"
>Are you kidding me?

still no solution, btw

>>107503970
>Lenovo LOQ
thoughts on that? my imouto might need a new gaybook soon but most of them feel like a scam, at least lenovo loq and asus tuf provide a decent hardware/price ratio on my cunt

what's wrong with windows update? why should I disable it?

how do I activate Office 2007 Home & Student Retail?

Anything fucky with Windows Security Update KB5072033 (26200.7462)?

I heard it introduces a screen flicker and broken installation

>>107504718
Touchscreen OS

>>107504567
Is that Winhance better than Shutup10?

Should I use the non IoT version if I'm more gaming focused?

>>107506795
i just checked that tool, its basically a ose version of winaero
shutup10 is straight to the point related to privacy and dumb services that do nothing

>>107503306
Is Momoka asking me to kiss her pink lips?

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What's the lightest version of Windows to use for a server?
I need to install Hikvision's iVMS-4200 and I'm forced to use Windows. I've heard of Tiny11 but I want to hear other suggestions just in case it's not the correct OS tool for the job. Server is running Proxmox btw.
https://www.hikvision.com/en/support/download/software/ivms4200-series/

>>107506839
so which one should you use? I don't want them repeating registry tweaks or something then breaking something

>>107506834
If you're talking about LTSC, there is practically no difference aside from licensing and support length
Also, HWID is the recommended activation method for Windows, and MAS will auto convert any LTSC to IoT LTSC automatically when activating with HWID anyway

>>107506910
are you >>107504473?
why are you using business instead of ltsc?
also why even pick 11 over 10?
ideally you just pic ltsc (10/11), install it offline and use the recommended settings of shutup10 and call it a day

where Sophie?

>>107506795
>>107506839
>>107506910
winhance is open source, o&o is not.

>really for this kind of tool you should do your own research and not rely completely on some rando posting on 4chan
>watch the winhance video i linked

>>107507314
never blindly use a tool to tweak your OS, that is a short-bus-helmet-wearing-retarded level of stupid

>study the tool(s) and learn how (if!) you can unfuck something if you tweak it *before* you tweak it, regardless of which tool you use

>i prefer winhance as it can show you exactly what it is doing - registry edit or GPO etc. - just mousing over the switch to enable/disable, and i also like the way it handles re-removing apps that might get forcibly re-installed by an update, all actions are scripted as if the user was doing stuff manually (which is how i used to manage my system tweaking, i have a bunch of regedit and GPO edits i apply with "simple" scripts, then again i actually worked in the industry packaging and deploying Windows on bespoke systems for a couple of decades)
>either one of these tools will work so pick one and learn it

>>107502898
I've tried turning it off but it isn't still broken. Should I uninstall the basic display adapter in device manager? It seems like DDU didn't catch it, or windows still managed to install it again.

>>107507800
>uninstall the basic display adapter
Windows will just re-install it, normally all you need to do is DDU->reboot->ignore the Windows basic adapter driver->install your driver

>>107507842
In device manager I see the basic display adapter AND my GPU (which i assume is the actual AMD drivers)

should i get LTSC or pro (with debloat)

any differences?

>>107507997
yes, LTSC is not debloated, it comes with less stuff like apps and the MS Store, but under the hood it's almost the same as GAC, services, telemetry, processes, most of the useless intrusive stuff is still there.

You want LTSC if you don't like feature updates but still want security ones, and because it has longer support, not because it's "debloated", for that you still have to go through the process

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I love Windows!

>>107507940
uninstall AMD driver, reboot. run DDU, reboot. now you should be able to clean install your driver.

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My cousin literally sent this to me over WhatsApp and expects me to fix it XD

Anyway can I find a code online to bypass this or what would the solution even be? clean install?

>>107508482
the solution is to have your "cousin" visit the first link shown on the screen on <any other device>, login to the Microsoft account, and get the bloody key

>britbongs

>>107508516
I doubt she even has a microsoft account, Im pretty sure I activated this laptop with one of those scripts in the OP 2 years ago
I have no idea how she landed on this screen at all

I hate techlets so much

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>>107508544
>doubt she even has a
>pretty sure I activated

oh dear. encryption and no recovery key means pic related as you >>107508482 already knew

bypass is not available so pic related, and either back up the new recovery key or turn off and then disable bitlocker permanently after the new install

>>107508482
New install + "Prevent device encryption" checked in your autounattend file

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>>107507997
Reasons to install LTSC are:
>you don't like feature updates changing your system but still want security updates
>you want get security updates for Windows 10 until 2032

>>107508364
I've tried that an I still have that basic display adapter with a yellow triangle in device manager, along with my GPU

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>>107506036
Have you tried unchecking this box?

>>107509810
Thanks for the answer, but no, for the desktop I managed to restore the password. The problem is this annoying Microsoft login system, I am afraid.

Not really sure if I have to wait 24-48 hours, perhaps they really want me to install the Authenticator tool. That would be the excuse I need to finally switch to another mail provider.

>>107509943
What do you mean authenticator tool? Microsoft accounts are usually well supported by mail clients in using OAuth 2.0 when logging in. You don't need to install anything, the mail client will simply pop up their microsoft login page and depending on your account you'll also need to perform 2fa. It's the most reliable way to login

>>107509708
is iGPU maybe?

Finally went to w11 because I got tired of countless workarounds and tiny things to update that are just the default now on w11.
Two questions:
Do you recommend 7zip?
What uninstaller do you recommend if any, should I get RevoUninstaller?

>>107510362
7zip's been my go-to forever. And I like using Bulk Crap Uninstaller.

>>107507314
NTA but I moved to Windows 11 Enterprise IoT LTSC 2024 because the gaming laptop I'm currently using doesn't have drivers for Windows 10
>>107504104
>windows 11 enterprise if you want latest and greatest
and you have 12th+ gen Intel CPU or laptop whose OEM drivers don't support Windows 10

>>107510368
Can you tell me how to make it ignore other drives for now? Like my old windows one because it has flooded me with all the software on it lol.
Like all open source source projects with a GUI it has a trillion settings hidden within trillion menus.

>>107510362
7zip, peazip if you want a more modern folder experience.
I don't use any uninstaller. I usually use scoop to install stuff, if it doesn't exist then I use winget. You should get most software that way except for games I suppose. Otherwise as a last resort a traditional installer.

predictions if 27h2 will be better than 24h2?

>>107510362
>Finally went to w11 because I got tired of countless workarounds and tiny things to update that are just the default now on w11.
Which version of Windows 11? Enterprise IoT LTSC 2024?
>Do you recommend 7zip?
Yes
>What uninstaller do you recommend if any, should I get RevoUninstaller?
Either Bulk Crap Uninstaller or Geek Uninstaller (I'm using the latter)

>>107510556
it'll get worse as long as they don't axe Satya from the company

But who knows, AI slop is now part of their workflow, so we can only hope that by then their methods will be more mature and reliable, because right now they're breaking shit left and right

>>107510570
Enterprise 25H2

>>107510434
Use the filtering via Ctrl+F or just use the install location sort tab, or uncheck the drive you don't want seen by it in the folder scan settings.

How fucked would I be if I just kept using windows 10? I know LTSC still has support for a while but what about after that?

>>107513076
ESU activated through MAS gives you updates until October 2028, then the only safe way to stay on 10 for another four-ish years is using IoT LTSC 2021.

>>107513076
there are people still using xp or 7

I'm pretty sure Microsoft will fix Windows before LTSC End of Life date.

has anyone made a windows fork?

>>107513524
Whatever Windows 12 or even 13 will be will be out for a couple years by the time IoT LTSC 2021 reaches EoL.

>>107513584
yes
wine, reactos

however.. ntfs not supported on reactos yet
there is a huge problem that msvc is closed source

to fork windows you need to recreate msvc. so you can recreate mfc/atl garbage

if you have some coding knowledge and 10k in LLM credits you might get claude opus 4.5 to half-bake you one with 90% of bugs.

>>107513664
thanks for the reply anon. i don't know shit about it. but im willing to start funneling my support into something else. i'm trying linux on a virtual machine right now. but i still am attached to windows... i just hate what's happening and i want off this ride.

>>107513673
wine is pretty good, linux is trivial to use nowadays, whatever you need just ask some llm, and it configures it

I installed archlinux using gemini 2.5, no archinstall didn't work because of some issues, but gemini guided me through the install no problem.

Nowadays whenever I want to configure my os, I just ask some cli agent and shit just works.

However since we are on windows thread, I do use windows on a VM and connect with remmina whenever I need windows.

>>107513721
that sounds good. i'm not against llm, i will use it occasionally. i just don't wanna make it a habit for everything. thank you anon.

>>107513721
Gemini Pro 3 and Claude Opus 4.5 are pretty damn smart for sure.

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Do I really need windows 11 if I have a 12th gen intel CPU? I've been running windows 10 for 3 years just fine with no performance issues

>>107513785
I'm currently using Windows 11 not only because my laptop has 13th Gen Intel Core i7 CPU but because the drivers only support Windows 11
The old HP Victus gaming laptop I bought from 2021 has driver support for Windows 10 though

In Windows, you can "reset this PC" to go back to the factory default set of preinstalled programs/bloatware and drivers a given laptop shipped with.

Is there a way to back that up to an external drive, if I want to format and install a different OS to the internal drive but still want to be able to factory reset back to the normal set of shit in the event I fuck something up while installing the new OS?

>>107513524
>I'm pretty sure Microsoft will fix Windows before LTSC End of Life date.
Windows is done. I am hopeful that desktop Linux will become usable before 2032.
>>107513664
>wine
Wine is not a fork of Windows. It's just a compatibility layer.
>>107513721
>linux is trivial to use nowadays
Loonix still can't handle my 10+ year old hardware due to having sub-optimal drivers.
>>107513785
>Do I really need windows 11 if I have a 12th gen intel CPU?
Yes. You need Win 11's new scheduler, because your CPU has the new Intel E-strogen™ cores.

unfortunely linux hardware support sucks ass compared to windows and thats including old hardware
my 10 year old laptop has always had issues with the backlight not being restored after boot/reboot, resetting to 100% always, and the hardware cursor is buggy, i know because in the past i force kde to use software cursor and it fixed the issue but obviously thats not a good idea

>>107513833
Use Macrium Reflex
You can find the download links in one of the pastebin links (see "Useful programs (new installs, essentials, utilities, adobe, etc")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9BGn4MivJw

>>107509970
That's the point, the login page. They're really trying to enforce the use of the Microsoft Authenticator app, while I'm happy with the standard password. It's not only a matter of choice (not wanting to install another Microsoft app), but also the bad experience of being locked-out of another account because I lost access to the phone I used back then.

I appreciate your answer though.

>>107513977
>my 10 year old laptop has always had issues with the backlight not being restored after boot/reboot
Have you enabled the backlight service?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Backlight#Save_and_restore_functionality
>the hardware cursor is buggy on Linux
Yeah, I had this issue on Loonix, too. Libinput, the linux driver that controls various input devices like touchpads, just sucks ass.

>>107513833
>>107514002
What about a GParted Live USB + dd ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmFuBiKtes0

>>107503306
chilean babies

>>107513977

windows 11 hardware support sucks more ass than linux.

I believe your best bet is to stay on windows 7 and patch user32.dll to accept new functions of newer windowses, backport win 10 features on top of 7

or reverse engineer your own drivers

>>107514821
Winhance's whole deal is being a one stop shop for debloating shit.

>>107514084
thats the problem i have
that systemd service doesnt run
i had this issue on all the distros i tried
this has been an issue for a really long time

>>107514586
>windows 11 hardware support sucks more ass than linux.
U wut m8? I used an old hd4870 on 11, no issues

>>107503306
ai slop kys nigger

>>107506728
>Anything fucky with Windows Security Update KB5072033 (26200.7462)?
>I heard it introduces a screen flicker and broken installation

Any answer?

>open start menu
>type “calculator”
>nothing happens
):<
>”slide down to restart” laptop has no tocuhscreen
):<
>15 minutes later laptop is back on
>enter my pin
>”welcome”
>5 minutes later i am logged in
>open start menu
>type “calculator”
>nothing
>open browser
>laptop freezes for a few minutes as 50 other browser windows open up
>all timed out and useless
How did they fuck up this badly? How is it even possible for anyone to fuck up this badly? Why hasn’t everybusiness dropped Windon’ts? I’m about to make my third trip to the home office this quarter just to replace my craptop

>>107503306
Fuck pajeets broke github

>>107515898
works on my machine

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I am being bullied again..

>>107517076
I don't get it, W10 has never harassed me with that. Are you on Home edition or something?

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>>107517100

>>107504980
The 360 is 20 years old. The drivers that come with the adapter almost certainly won't work with w11. If you can't find a download for drivers that do work for w11, youre probably just out of luck.

>>107517117
Huh, I'm on Enterprise so maybe Pro still gets harassed
Or maybe ShutUp10 does something to prevent that

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>>107517370
I think I am set. But my system keeps notifying me..

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>>107517484

>>107514080
1. There is no installation of another app, whether it thunderbird desktop or thunderbird mobile.
2. Locking you out of an account isn't a microsoft authenticator thing... it's just basic 2fa. Besides you don't need to add in your phone number, I use my gmail account for the 2fa for my live.com email. My hotmail has no secondary protection so I can log right in without 2fa.

Hey bro, I know it's frustrating on wanting to do one thing while the software or company wants to do another, but microsoft has made it difficult to log in with a simple username-password auth. I was also frustrated at them when they forced it on office suite outlook, making my password emails unable to connect (because logging in with their oauth 2.0 would log you into windows as well). In the end I switched to thunderbird to avoid that. I didn't avoid the oauth2.0, I just wanted to not log into windows when I log into an MS account so I get your conundrum. However logging into your MS email with their oauth2.0, especially with thunderbird, is a non-issue. It's literally a password login, and with 2fa if you set that up. It won't install another app, nor force you to, and it won't log you into Windows.

>>107517076
breh... just disable secure boot and tpm in your BIOS. No more nagging from windows 11.

ClamAV or Windows Defender?
I knew ClamWin is dead but w/e

>>107518814
Defender plus common sense
If you're paranoid do a Malwarebytes scan

>>107518814
ad blocker and up to date browser over anything

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>>107503306

>>107519191
chile mencionado

>>107503306
>How do I activate Windows?
I used the script and I heard a "beep" when the process ended. Is that normal?
At least the annoying watermark is done.

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>>107519790

>>107519790
>I heard a "beep" when the process ended. Is that normal?
No

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>everyone shits on Windows non-stop.
>I unironically like it and think it's great.

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>>107520605
techvegans arent everyone, just an extremely vocal screeching minority, like trannys, which they also almost certainly are

Taking debloating seriously lately. Found out about

>TidyOS
>Chris Titus WinUtil
>Winhance
>Win11Debloat

Which one is best and easy to use?

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>>107520605
>>107520633

>>107521030
Winhance is easiest on a live system

>>107519769
OP girl is the chilean meme girl of idolmaster series

>>107521563
Is she Chilean in her bio or something

i keep poking linux but shutting down only logs me out sometimes, updating hangs itself keeping system hostage
at least windows 10 ltsc just works

>>107522504
If you ever want to use Linux you should only use Arch or Debian, maybe Gentoo if you don't mind tinkering.

>planning to stay on 10 ltsc till win 12 comes out
>need to update to ddr5 before prices go even crazier
>get new mobo
>has a fuck ton of issues on windows 10 and only officially supports 11
>forced to move to win 11
its not fair bros

>>107522966
You'll get over it in a couple days when you find out 11 feels basically the same.

>>107522966
Just go with 11 IoT LTSC. Excepting the UI, is virtually the same as W10 IoT LTSC.

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>>107468678
uhhhhh

Where can I download windows 98?

>>107524072
WinWorldPC has 98 ISOs

>>107522966
Win11 is actually better than 10 after you fix explorer menus and fonts. Its memory management is bit more aggressive and games are snappier because of the new flip model.
It's still shit but w10 is obsolete in this sense.

>>107524075
Thanks

>>107524109
>new flip model
what be that

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>>107523836
tutorial: the fix for that was in the plebbit thread itself I didn't realise; you need the right files for your specific winglows build number
after that picrel was the new error; the fix is in >>107476407 but I will make a less abstract explanation
>select the right build number and architecture on uudump
>search for Microsoft-Windows-WirelessDisplay-FOD-Package
>download and extract both [longname].cab and [longname]-en-us.cab (or whatever is your language)
>use the dism commands in the github page but replace the end with Microsoft-PPIProjection-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.19041.1.mum and Microsoft-PPIProjection-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~en-US~10.0.19041.1.mum respectively
>enjoy your miracast

>>107521583
She have chilean babies

>>107515898
your I.T. team should be taken outside and flogged mercilessly. it's their shit that is fucking you up, i guarantee it.

>spent decades building and deploying system images for huge globohomo corp
>thank the gods my boss was a techie and gave the time to tune things

>>107504718
Because it upsets worthless niggers like you.

>>107520605
People who like Windows are actually working and getting things done.
People who don't like Windows are on /g/, Reddit and Youtube throwing tantrums, because they're autistic permaNEETs.

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>>107515898
>my computer is broken
>this is windows fault
Yawn

>>107526000
saaaaaaaaar

>>107518830
defender sucks ass, in idle or browsing its one of the few resources in task manger that causes my cpu to spike

>>107526473
>defender sucks ass because it scans when I don’t need resources

>>107526747
>so much fun when the fans of my dead quiet pc get turned on because a retarded program re scans the same file over and over again

Lets fuck up your goon session at 02:00AM because fuck you -M$©

>>107526917
>defender sucks because my fan curve is retarded

>>107526941
post your fan curve then hackerman

>>107524429
Borderless windows have lot less input latency. It's quite a big difference compared to w10 if you play vidya.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5KzEfQfTWk
update!!!

>>107527074
Dunno why anyone would skip the monthly update these days. They're so quick.

>>107527121
No good reason not to update these days considering how easy it is to install and activate LTSC if you hate feature updates

>>107526964
0C : 0% CPU 30% Case
25C: 0% CPU 30% Case
50C : 0% CPU 30% Case
75C : 0% CPU 30% Case
100C : 0% CPU 30% Case
t. >>107516749

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>>107529698
mein nägger
nice silence build, I cant use that cooler (its the NH-P1 right ?) with the 5800x3d >:c

All my fans are from noctua A14 front and top, A12 rear

Cpu cooler: NH-D15

here is are my fan curves, step up and down delay of 8sek

CPU Case fan: front 1, top1(1 exhaust - rear1 exhaust)
45C° 20%
60C° 35%
75C° 45%
80C° 75%

GPU curve Case Front 2 (bottom, intake only)

45C° 20%
60C° 35%
75C° 45%
80C° 79%