>finally get a job as a developer and a really good one at that, over median salary just starting out
>Feel like i know nothing and dont deserve it
When will it go away?

>team lead sends link to some new tool
>"so I know this basically irrelevant to our current assigned tasks but using it counts for some metrics"
>"so just log in a few days or whatever"
Business shit is so faggy I swear

>>107524889
I ended up just continuing my bruteforce and getting lucky with this company that just happened to be needing a new onsite support despite everything being outsourced to Curryland. We have to manage 5 buildings in 3 different cities with the 2 of us while constantly wrangling the tard decisions by the outsourced network and sec teams on top of everything wrong with Microsoft.

I want to kill myself honestly but the entire situation is so surreal that it actually makes me laugh and enjoy myself.

>>107525617
When you finally start to know more about something than everyone else

>antagonize young people/newcomers with the most nonsensical and brutal AI and HR roastie hiring processes combined with lowering spots
>antagonize juniors with the constant lingering threat of being laid off for AI or some Indian h1b
>give little benefits for juniors who take charge and try to excel(smaller chance of being replaced by akshit isnt a benefit)
>non seniors basically feel little connection with what they work for in turn and do just the bare minimum to not get fired
>and probably can and would fuck over the company if there is a benefit
Im struggling to understand what the late term plan is for when boomers retire in these big corps
They cant possibly be expecting pajeets to be the ones inheriting and running these

>>107525617
it takes a couple years to even feel slightly useful. this is also why entry level market is so bad. an entry level dev just costs a company money.
i can at least tell you that after 4 years it really doesnt go away. theres just a lot of information to know and remember. maybe if your job is limited in scope its probably to get over this. if youre "full stack" its just a lot of information.
the way you can get around the "dont deserve it" part is by trying your absolute hardest to learn everything you can to be useful. you have to way that against burnout which will happen though.
just my opinion though maybe most feel differently. whatever you do dont start believing in le imposter syndrome because its normal to feel like that when you suck ass really bad.

>>107526143
>it takes a couple years to even feel slightly useful.
I become useful 2 weeks because I have some kind of tech savantism but the downside is that I'm never able to truly master something at expert level and I also have some social issues

>>107526239
>the downside is that I'm never able to truly master something at expert level
why not?
if you feel useful in just 2 weeks, you might be setting the bar too low to what constitutes useful. setting it very high and hating that you suck could work better.
>I also have some social issues
you and everyone else on 4chan brotha

>>107525617
Just own it up and say you deserve it.

>>107526143
I disagree. Typically the most skilled ones in uni can start at the medior level. Most entry level devs however can't adapt fast to an entire new set of tools they've never encountered. The better ones in uni easily can, but 70-80% can't without a book or teacher strictly telling them what to do. Grades are a poor indication as well since its about how someone would perform without having a lot of guidance. Sure at work you can get guidance but you want to be able to complete projects by yourself without constantly nagging other people about it. Unless you want to become a scrum master of course.

With anything full stack you'll constantly encounter new tools unless working in house somewhere and get familiarity with a few frameworks. The basic foundational skills are what matters and how quickly you can pick up the newer stuff.

>>107526239
2 weeks in* please im not a jeet you have to believe me this is exactly what im talking about with my social issues my brain goes faster than my hands or mouth!!!!!

>>107526379
>why not?
I get distracted by other things I'm capable of utilizing and then there's just too much going on to really focus on something to a high level. I have the same problem with hobbies. I'm naturally good at a lot of things and then it just bores me and I start looking for entertainment elsewhere.
>if you feel useful in just 2 weeks, you might be setting the bar too low to what constitutes useful. setting it very high and hating that you suck could work better.
I'm always very critical of myself and always know I can do better, but with tech stuff I hit mental blocks at expert level where I go "I could spend 100 hours on this to marginally improve or 10 hours on something else and add another skill to my set".

It's probably just my inability to grow out up entry level roles so I'll never really attain a specialization to be forced into getting master level with...

>>107526384
you probably went to a better school than i did. at mine i felt like there was 1 guy in my graduating class who was talented to that degree, and it wasnt me.
programming is supposed to be a g-loaded task. selecting for the top 10% at uni in a stem program is equivalent to choosing around 125-130 iq cohort. 130 is considered a "genius" level iq. in that range, geniuses probably outperform a lot of average people in any g-loaded task with far smaller experience. or otherwise, the top performers in a class also probably have a lot more prior experience to programming too.
all that aside i think theres a lot of skill in just learning codebase and convention at a company. things are a lot different now that you can prompt to search codebase for specific functionality described in a ticket, and get relatively accurate results.
i dont disagree with you necessarily, but those are just my thoughts from my perspective in my very limited experience.

>>107526402
unironically adhd meds would help with that. adhd isnt real but the meds will straighten out half-assed learning and stimulation seeking like that.

Man these people took my bonus from me then they didn't give me a raise. I got so much anger in me got no way to take it out. Think I'm stuck in this job forever. Where the fuck is the office hoes? Yes I'm a corpo cuck, I like it when I eat shit. The shit that I post on social media, they telling me "You're gonna get fired." How they can't be seeing my burn out. I'm driving my toyota camry with my 6 digit income. I still can't get a bonus with all the hard work that I do. I still don't get a raise. My boss see my social but they don't see how I'm feeling so I became a leech yeah bitch I'm a corpoleech.

it took me only 6 months at this new company to not give a fuck anymore and to do the bare minimum and skip doing work shit even though there are things to do
how bad is it? this is my first job btw. I love the subject at hand and yet I can't motivate myself to do shit

>>107526660
Enjoy to being an adult! Being a teenager wasn't that bad now, was it? But noooooooo you just had to wish on Zoltar to be big huh

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>over 3 years in after pic related
>actually became a key team member and productive
>shitty niche job tinkering with internal tools and automations
>zero work on production code
>zero experience in anything that might be relevant in the market
How over is it for me if we ever get layoffs?

>>107526720
the market wants indians that can code with claude, you were fucked anyway. Keep grabbing paychecks untill they fire you or the ship sinks. No need to worry about the future, there won't be any market in the future

>>107526580
> you probably went to a better school than i did.
Idk I went to university of Amsterdam, studied CS. Programming and the theoretical math you would encounter in uni is almost entirely g-loaded. The ones with the best career trajectory weren't the best performers but the ones who were really solid at presenting + could also keep up with the technical work in group projects. When I looked up people I was with in the uni (looked up around 40 in my class some time ago) the ones with the nicer sounding roles and with well paying companies were those. Then there were also a few who had their own company and went straight up into consulting / self employment, I reckon some of those are earning the best overall.

In a working environment and especially during interviews it's very important to deliver a nice enough social presence and make people like you.

From there on out its important to have the minimum required technical knowledge to do the job. Yes, I'd agree that learning new things is both easier and faster than in the past. Partially due to very in depth udemy courses + online learning resources and partially due to LLMs being great at hand holding for problems that have had a lot of online discussion (e.g. anything related to SQL).

>>107526720
Keep collecting. I work in MSP contracting and its year by year of asking "Are we getting fucked, bought out or are we fucking up the contract". You sound like you have far better stability.

>>107525258
>that pic
Whoa, it do be like that.

Another day of hard work consisting of moving my mouse now and then and replying to stupid shit on teams while drinking beer

>working with jeets
>they all present VERY WIDE vague questions to BIG chains
Not going to lie this is REALLY pissing me the fuck off. I'm just trying to survive the friday before my boss comes back next week but it feels like they're just waiting for a GOTCHA if I email something.

i have NO alcohol for this friday evening nor any drugs

upon further consideration i will now go buy some groceries

My work has a lot of "anything you say will be used against you". Mixing that in with big email chains and how do I avoid this? I usually get my boss to just give the answer even if it's literally 1+1=2 but fuck I get so paranoid and scared if I say 1+1=2 that they end up coming after me going NUH UH NOOOOO NUH UH =

>>107525617
What is wrong with you retarded zoomers this isn't a syndrome or unique. You guys literally know nothing and are useless, which is fine. It just means you need to pay attention and learn and work on become a contributing member of a team. Literally every new person on every team throughout history has felt this way
>hurr why do I feel like an incompetent retard when I am one

>>107524302
>Asian ladyboy nut
Im talking to Kondo Mumu on PSN right now

>>107527540
because they've been coddled their whole life and told that everything they do is great. Even video games don't challenge them today, they see a puzzle and the narrator tells them the solution after 2 seconds

>watching porn during company all-hands meeting
I've gone beyong quiet quitting
I don't give a shit

>>107527849
I did a 100+ person presentation on Databricks while shitting

>>107525617
The trick is to take on tasks that are only slightly out of your depth. If you have the education and IQ then you'll figure it out. After a few times you'll have proven your capability to yourself and won't feel like an outsider.
Alternatively, if you're not smart enough, then BS your way through tasks and blame others when things go wrong. You will still get ahead and earn a place in the inner circle.

It's that easy

>>107527874
you were screen sharing, camera on and mic unmuted?
i dont believe you

>>107527901
No camera, just screenshare since it was a powerpoint. Muted mic to shotgun spray diarrhea when someone else started talking. I had also just woken up 10 minutes beforehand.

During the all hands our C-level dudes could barely speak english and the director level employees all look pissed off and angry that they had to be there
that's why i quiet quit

I didn't go to the last all hands because we had a meeting and then they didn't record so no idea what was said. Also no one cares

>>107527923
"Americans just don't want to work anymore"

>>107528096
You will attend the meeting to listen to stacy talk about the new vision benefit and you will be happy

>>107528234
>listen to stacy
I've never once had to do this. All hands are about engineering only. I only interact with engineers (maybe the occasional product manager). If there is a policy change the HR contractors just email us and then nobody realizes because nobody reads their email
>t. microjeet

>>107528179
You WILL listen to my inane mandatory all hands while I paint my porcelain throne brown and you WILL be happy

>>107525696
Do share some stories please.

>>107526071
Boomers don't care about anything except the here and now and what they can get out of it, everything else be damned

>>107528381
The fucking things americans will say

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I feel like I gotta start recording more for work. I was talking to my boss on something unrelated and he asked me about what we did for the last project and he looked shocked acting like the last project should've had a feature in it when it didn't and I'm just like "uhhhhh.....that's not what was in the requirements."
He kinda dropped it since it's done and dusted but he looked like "wtf".

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>FAGMAN interviewer is a jeet
It's over

>>107528846
You need to recap conversations via emails to your boss to make sure he can't gaslight you

Being a lead fucking sucks. You just sit in meetings all fucking day. At least at my desk I can browse the Internet, but in fucking meetings you gotta sit there and pretend to be interested the entire time even when the meeting has nothing to do with you.

>>107529227
In my team we only have meetings where we all sit right next to each other wearing headphones and staring at our screens while we double hear each other on headphones and from them actually talking. I don't think my manager ever attends other meetings in person, he just sits next to me in meetings all day on teams

>>107526660
Did the same thing for my first job but I wasn't even able to write a single line of code during that time

kek this thread is funny, I don't know if you guys are making up some of the stuff or if it really is like this working at some of the bigger corporations but I'm having a laugh
reminded me of this fella I'd met on a train who said he hadn't done anything yet in the 3 months he's been at his new big name company because he got solo assigned to some super huge complex project in a completely different subfield that what he used to do and that spans basically the entire company or some shit, and his manager keeps telling him he's doing great even when he tells him he hasn't done anything

>>107529681
People elsewhere may make shit up but this thread is exclusively used to complain about work, life and subhumans so most people are pretty honest.

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I discovered I like disassembling and assembling complex machinery maybe I should've gone into robotics, mechatronics or just become a mechanic.

tgif am i right fellas

>>107530625
Thank fuck.

>>107530371
But can you disassemble my raging boner using just your mouth?

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My company is letting us choose a holiday gift and there's nothing in the options that I really want...

>>107530769
no. Unless you're girl with a big clit, a futa, or a sexy south american shemale.

>>107530776
>no bonuses
>just a holiday gift
same here. humiliation ritual

>>107530881
In previous years there was an option for a cheese gift box, but not this year... it's all just random tech junk

>>107530881
When rich people do it they get a movie deal and a free ticket to their favorite vacation beach. When we do it they laugh at us :C

I hate Teams so god damn much. Why do people insist on using it when we also have Zoom

>>107530625
one week more and then I get ten days off

first vacation time since July and haven't had a single sick leave day either

>>107531066
japan. now.

>>107531167
Everyones planning to move to japan. Never follow the masses.

>>107531167
No jobs.

why are people messaging me on teams to do shit on a Friday at 4:30

>>107531201
also, japs are racist even if u r white

>>107531224
Do the workful anon.

>>107531383
I will not. The needful will get needed on Monday.

>>107531474
Redeem the PTO to avoid it anon.

>>107528291
No I won't.
Half the times I just join this kind of meetings with no audio and play vidya on my main PC
The other half I don't even join

>>107531359
that's based though

>>107531515
THESE MEETINGS ARE FOR MOTIVATED WORKERS YOU SICK FUCK

>>107531359
>also, japs are racist even if u r white
theyre nice to me

>>107531515
Works for me BRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPP

Alright fine I finally picked a gift, i'm getting a cheap ass consumer grade espresso maker for Christmas from my company
The amazon reviews say it spits scalding hot water at you sometimes, so that will be fun

>>107532019
Its not that bad. If you want burns that remove your fingers then start making candy at home. Hot sugar will get you real good.

>>107532150
I'm a fucking idiot with hot stuff, I burn myself all the time by accident. I bumped the heating element in my oven once with the back of my hand, that was a bad one. Then I did it again a few years later with the other hand. I also recently burned my fingers on my air fryer.
So I will definitely be burning myself on this espresso thing, and I will NOT be melting any sugar.

>>107532183
I am the opposite hot stuff i rarely get burned. But cutting myself man does that happen alot. Luckily i have yet to need stitches from it (probably needed it for 2 of the times).

Don't mess with hot sugar infact don't bother with making caramel at home its a pain in the ass to begin with.

>>107532226
heh, i end up cutting myself a lot too, usually when cleaning knives

>>107532434
>Cleaning knives
Man have you tried sharpening with a stone. You aren't supposed to cut yourself but you will at least once when doing it. Atleast i get good edges from doing it, so it was worth that initial palm cut.

>>107532450
>You aren't supposed to cut yourself but you will at least once when doing it.
How?

Are "Tech Workers" so stupid they can't even sharpen a knife without killing themselves?

>>107532657
I slipped a little with the leather strop i was holding. It wasn't a deep cut.

would it be a bad idea to upload pepe the frog as my avatar on LinkedIn?
I'm talking about the classic original pepe, nothing weird

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>>107528846
Do you not have a ticketing system? E-mail? A notebook? Bodycam?

>>107533053
>how people think a tech career will go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTHvzAhWfgA
>how it actually goes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry60m3ZBmLE

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>>107529681
most of this thread is larpers but the job market and average workplaces are so insane that trolling is indistinguishable from satire and satire is indistinguishable from anecdote

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>>107526239
>>107526402
>I become useful 2 weeks [in] because I have some kind of tech savantism but the downside is that I'm never able to truly master something
No, other anon is right; it takes a long time to become even completely aware of a given system, let alone useful for maintaining let alone improving it.

Consider, for a moment, that to be truly knowledgeable on a system, you need total experience with it, and that system is maintained by dozens, maybe hundreds, maybe thousands of people. Even if you were involved at the start of its implementation, you simply don't have enough hours in the day to observe fully every issue it encounters, every in prod hotfix, every weird trick someone finds, let alone all that on top of the systems it runs on.

>>107529227
>You just sit in meetings all fucking day.
I would fucking love this. The few times I get invited to meetings, the one positive note I get is that I am willing to speak, and might not speak totally eloquently and clearly, but somehow make myself clear and stay realistic. If I were a lead, I would be busting knees and begging for money for every cap that blows on a board. If someone came to me saying "I'd like to do X but don't have docs on how to do it/how that thing works" maybe I won't have those docs or have that knowledge, but if I can't find who does, I'll bring my tools from home, tell my juniors to use them and more importantly how, and eat the resulting charge from habitual line-stepping myself.

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If I embrace the same sort of insanity that got me a job, will I lose my job?

I don't know how to interpret how my coworkers (who I consider my bosses; they've been there longer) are dealing with me. It's been too normal and without major incident. Also, not to shit-talk my fellows, but everyone is a fucking weirdo with a crazy story; to overtly project, such people are tolerant but judgmental. My greatest fear is to be judged in a way I can't plan around.

The older I get the more I realize I'm not the weird one. Most people are just good at hiding.

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Actually, my company does quarterly not-really-performance-review things, and I haven't done one yet. By policy, they appear to be basically intended as only semi-official bitch sessions between managers and employees to prepare for proper yearly performance reviews, such that the junior can be told how he's fucking up, but also be given an opportunity to beg for what he needs.

How do I express
>"I don't know how you feel about me yet, and I am not personally equipped let alone willing to talk about how I feel about you yet; the latter would be misguided at best because I don't know how you feel about me and can't open a conversation as hostile as a performance review properly without more information."
without appearing more insane than average?

I imagine from their end it'll be a lot of "do you feel disheartened by X" "We'd like to see more learning/expertise in Y from you" but that's overt projection

Do I just go
>"Am I doing well?"
>yeah
>"Well, I'd like some engineering drawings, but also a manager to kick me in the ass to do anything with them, then. I've got big ideas about internal stuff we can do."
>nah
>"Well, I'd like some engineering drawings, but also a manager to kick me in the ass to do anything with them, then. I need to know better how to do my basic job."

>>107533422
I'd ask why it's so hard to be honest in real life but really most things require at least a little deception or evasion

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I feel that I am underqualified for my job, not supervised very well, and that my lack of surpervision hasn't led to a crisis is only because I am to scared to touch anything except when I enter a Strange Mood (which usually fails, thought at least non-destructively)

Also I think it's a weird thing that everyone I work with except for a few people are all dads. It hasn't resulted in any weird moments or feelings, but I am scared of the possibility. Not like I want a dad figure or am afraid of that; I just remember other times a supervisor has put on his obvious dad voice and lost my respect because my first thought was "I'm a grown-ass man; don't put your dad voice on for me." and have either observed it happening, or had it happen in much more casual settings. (i have broken off office smalltalk for getting the towards-a-child "And then what did you do??" type baby-facing talk tone and have no wont to suffer it ever again)

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I feel like a child in every job I have. There's potential, but for now, I can't do anything.

>>107533442
Damn you sound extremely autistic. A company values both you and the manager for your work only. A performance review is the manager checking boxes he's required to fulfills his own job. He has to tell you some weaknesses because it's part of the exercise, not because he's out to get you. In fact he wants to throw you easy ones so he can take credit when you improve.
So you have to acknowledge whatever areas of weakness he says no matter how false. Then you'll have to make visible gestures to prove you're working on it. Next year he'll check off the box that you improved, which will help your career and his.

Your feedback to him should also be neutral and sugarcoated (not "you're not doing X" but "I need more X"). If you openly judge him then he'll look for ways to get rid of you because his employees talking shit automatically makes him look like a shitty manager. If you're just some new hire then it's really easy to get rid of you.
> a manager to kick me in the ass to do anything with them
Most managers don't want to keep giving you urgent deadlines just to get you to work. Create your own urgency by promising to deliver on very short schedules. You'll work hard to avoid looking retarded.

>>107533442
I wish I could fire you

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>>107533685
>A performance review is the manager checking boxes he's required to fulfills his own job. He has to tell you some weaknesses because it's part of the exercise, not because he's out to get you.
I understand that; I was in the military, we had PERs. Same sorta thing -- managers desperately try to prove that they deserve the people they have while the juniors desperately try to prove that they deserve a job at all, in a system that has forgotten about them both and all anyone is trying to do is be noticed for anything positive at all

>Most managers don't want to keep giving you urgent deadlines just to get you to work
I've just found that personally, I'm a slacker. I can only do my best with time pressure. Other forms of pressure don't really work. Based on my posting and response to it, I can't be shamed. I could be simply fired, but that's not a solution to my personal wants and needs for purpose.
>Create your own urgency by promising to deliver on very short schedules.
eggsactly but
>You'll work hard to avoid looking retarded.
i am clearly retarded and the time for that is past

>A company values both you and the manager for your work only.
I'm in support in a section that appears to be largely forgotten about on a larger project that is rapidly approaching end-of-life, hired to cover a shift that probably was superfluous. story of my life. a strange creature larping as a fish, living in a poorly maintained aquarium, dropped in an ocean of sharks who have better things to eat

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>>107533691
Yeah, well, I've had my fill of going home without wings.

>>107533685
My last performance review my manager said "no negative comments" and told me to just keep doing what I'm doing. I'm not deluded enough to think I'm some rockstar, so I just have to assume my manager isn't that great. I don't think I suck and needed a ton of feedback, but I wish he had told me at least something I could work on

>>107527835
>Even video games don't challenge them today, they see a puzzle and the narrator tells them the solution after 2 seconds
Which game does this

>>107525258
It's like i'm working fully remote for like 3-5 hours a day and it is STILL draining as fuck and I need to spend another year in the company (to improve my finances, have a better amount of exp in the resume)

I FUCKING HATE BEING EMPLOYED

any tips on how can i make next year flow faster?
cocaine is not an option unfortunately

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>>107533782
>My last performance review my manager said "no negative comments" and told me to just keep doing what I'm doing.
That was my last one, and I found it threatening. What the hell was I doing that I need to keep doing? At the unit it was crisis after crisis

>>107533795
old games be like
>No manual will tell you how to fight this battle! Now we find out who's number one!
now they be like
>wait a minute that card.......

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Maybe I should take my own advice.
>Flying around with ideals in your head is going to get you killed.
>Believe in [your] Victory.

look gordon ropes

>>107533795
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZgjRcYGkY8

>>107533852
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfMqwTQmqTI

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what kind of retarded niggerish project should i propose undertaking at work for the utterly transparent reason of keeping my own morale up by having something to work on that has hope inbetween things breaking for reasons unclear to me that have to be solved in ways i don't readily remember

>>107533827
>i'm working fully remote for like 3-5 hours a day and it is STILL draining as fuck
yeah idk either
some days i barely do anything and feel tired by the end of it

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alternatively what retarded niggerish project should i propose to my reserve unit to say "Yeah, I only work two days a month now because i got a 'real' job but I need to keep my morale up and if you give me free reign to all the forgotten gear I can go full on dorfy and create a strange artefact if you give me two weeks, legal protection, initial guidance, and all the stuff Shared Services forgot we have"

>>107533749
If you were hired just to backfill an obsolete role for a bit then you already know you're gonna get laid off soon. So just keep looking for a new job, mentally check out of this one so it doesn't eat away at you.
It sounds like you procrastinate work that has no urgency so you can only sometimes perform at 100%.
At your next job, BS your way into projects that are always urgent. Pick a company no one wants to work for. You will always have people demanding your work and look good by coming through every time. The connections you win there will give you the references to get somewhere better with time.

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how to cultivate my occasional minor fey moods into something proper

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>>107534033
>If you were hired just to backfill an obsolete role
well it's canada and according to the Microsoft Teams Meetings About Morale in typical canadian fashion we're getting another 500 years out of our helicopters so that means 800 out of where I work. I don't fear getting laid off any more than getting fired.

I have never worked on a project basis. I have always been a support unit. An IT Dustman i became, and an IT Dustman I'll die. My sources of anxiety are that I am bored of support but not knowledgable enough to go higher into engineering. I don't know the serial standards, I dropped out of EE well before knowing enough electronics to be useful for that at all. I am not a programmer beyond writing basic chase missiles or TCS that guesses its best based on basic trig, but other people don't even do that. Surely there is something I can do.

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clearing my throat as if preparing for yet another short but crazed speech over MS Teams before simply roaring into the night as loud as i can at no one to nowhere

>>107534117
Find an urgent support role. Engineers and shit need helpers

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where you at

unironically typing nonsense to resist the urges myself

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>>107534179
my actual job is immediate tech support of a non-flying aircraft simulator and 90% of the system is a mystery to me

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How the fuck did I get the job I have?

>>107534180
Red

I have to go to a cross-team meetup and a trans coworker is going to be there, how do I avoid getting canceled?

does working in a phone factory count as tech worker

>>107534357
as soon as he says she just be like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0oIrzb0zo0

>>107534180
Green. 54k TC btw.

>>107534367
the sad thing is I don't think people really talk about themself in that way, it's more like someone else will refer to him as 'she' and i will have to follow along (or be fired)
dystopian

>>107533827
me too, i'm on month 2 and already feel like quitting. neet life was 1000% better

>>107534420
>>107533827
are you guys young (<30)? I wish I could offer tips but I think I just got old, jaded and used to it

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>>107534390
this is an Anglo Problem because in basically every other romance language, while the equivalent of "I/Me" is ungendered and it's rare for first-person pronouns to be gendered, any position you have probably is an would invite that conversation. Even the individual activities you do would have a gender for purely grammatical reasons once they become nouns. There's a reason this stuff caught on in anglo nations first.

>>107534452
yeah I'm just under 30 >>107534420
what makes things even more depressing is that the job market is absolutely fucked and it would be hell to try to land another job if I quit my current one

>>107534500
yeah, quitting is absolutely not the move right now. sorry. i get the feeling because when i was around that age, every day when I drove(lol) to work I would think to myself "I have to do something else, anything else." But my suggestion to my earlier self is just to put up with it unless I'm willing to work even harder at my own business, and have already eclipsed my current paycheck while working on the side.

>>107534420
>2 months
>burnt out
what a fucking loser

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When you go to work, is your heart still beating?

>>107534192
If you can hold down that job then you can BS your way into something better. You can also cheat through an online program to get the creds that will automatically get you into better jobs. Just get to work, the best years of your life are being wasted right now.

>>107534180
Almost at green. Just got a job and trying to come down from having to constantly be putting out applications and doing interviews, as well as worrying about bills.

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>>107534535
When I still worked on the ships, I experienced it a few times. It doesn't take a hard job to stress out. Pure admin can take a huge toll.

An important lesson I learned at basic, that was told straight up by our weird truther platoon I/C: Give 90% 100% of the time. If you give 100% for even a full minute, that's enough. You will only tire yourself out. Save those last bits of energy for when it truly matters. You can be just a little tired for a march, but you don't want to be already exhausted when a fire breaks out.

>>107534548
You've failed to understand and have thus made yourself my enemy

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if my work actually bothers with the quarterly review should I just admit that I am an incompetent crazy person and rather than tender a resignation simply ask what possessed them to hire me

>>107534647
never admit you're bad and never resign. force them to prove it because it's harder than you think

>>107534669
I have savings and a second job where I am measurably competent enough for my rank thoughbeit

>>107534510
yup that's the rational take but the irrational part of me wants out at any cost
>>107534535
you may be right. most of it is because I don't get along with my boss and have to work with him quite closely

>>107534703
Is your boss competent? Or at least experienced on the system you're fucking with?

>>107534703
well, you can follow that instinct, but start interviewing and don't quit until you've signed another offer letter. also, being employed while job searching will help you.

>>107534707
he is, but he's a terrible communicator and likes to put on the pressure unnecessarily when I ask questions to clarify what he meant because he dances around the main point

>>107534713
that seems to be the best way forward, yeah. thanks anon

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bros are we Youless

>>107525258
My company started experimental use of ai agents for legacy projects. the aim is to speed up upgrades making the ai read the entire codebase for me and then applying the required changes. it's a double edged things tho. both convenient and dangerous if you don't know how to use it. for example asking too much will make the agent run out of resources making it hallucinate and writing bullshit that will break your code. using a fast sprints approach as if you were giving tasks in step to a new hire instead sped up the progress greatly. I did in a single day what I'd have to do manually in a work week. I dread the future once this project will be over since I will probably have to go back to coding manually. I am considering buying a year of claude code for personal use simply to make my coding life at work less stressful now. Ever since I started doing code reviewing instead of actual coding the amount of stress from deadline has greatly decreased. I know people like to meme that AI will steal our jobs but maybe having a code agent companion I can guide via prompt isn't so bad

>>107534933
Good fucking luck trying to improve a legacy codebase by integrating AI bullshit into it

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>be an employed goy, earn 3000€ a month breaking a sweat
>quit job and call contacts
>become a freelancer, do the same stuff but suddenly earn 10 000€ a month
I guess I have to setup a company soon if I want to avoid these horrible taxes.

>>107535067
it's working pretty well so far. the way claude understands context and simply asks you questions when it's not sure is reducing errors to a minimum from FE side. on BE side is.. not great from what my colleague told me

>>107525617
Called imposter syndrome.
Prevalent amongst many higher ups and PhDs in academia. You are there because you deserve it.

how to get gf?
i have a job and i workout

>>107535213
Yeah but the freelancer market is fucking tough these days.

>>107535276
Imposter syndrome isn't real. If you think you suck you usually really do suck.

>>107529681
this thread redpilled me into believing elon was right

>>107535213
>>quit job and call contacts
>>become a freelancer, do the same stuff but suddenly earn 10 000€ a month
Yeah tis so easy, people will just give you the contract anytime

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>>107535276
Fake and gay term. You want to be in a position where you are still learning. If you stay stagnant in Tech/IT or any mechanical/engineering field then you will fall behind massively. If a job is easy then the work is too easy thus you are being underpaid for your talents.

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>>107533321
>>107533442
>>107533603
>>107533749
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>>107534000
Stop Schizo posting I AM NOT THE FURRY. TAKE YOUR MEDS.

what's with the avatarfagging ITT? reminder that it's against the rules

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>>107536792
this you?

>long compile times
>boring work
>envious at coworkers getting better work
>start writing little short stories
>do some AOC/programming projects at work
>realize that I can do pretty much anything as long as I look like I'm doing work.
It doesn't really help that the compile times are long. It takes a minute to boot up. You bet your ass I'm gonna catch up to my Bible studies with that time, I'll be an idiot not to. The only thing I need to figure out now is how to I safely work on Anki vocab at work. If I can find a way to get away with reviewing German at work, then my life will be solved. I end up having less time at home, cause family's full of needy retards

>>107537042
Deutsch ist nicht nur eine Sprache, es ist eine Denkweise. Du musst stets schlecht gelaunt und miesepetrig sein, dazu noch emotional kalt und mit leicht autistischen Zügen.

>>107537042
OR you and your coworkers could learn Go and ask your employer to switch languages.

>>107537042
>reviewing German at work
"Hello, HR? Anon seems to be a neo-nazi."

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>>107529681
It's legit or at least based on what I've experienced I'm willing to believe it's legit. Management can be a serious clown show.
>work in big ass corp
>our sector's teams get reshuffled
>land on a team that works based on internal customer demands
>we get almost none
>there's stuff we could be building but we weren't given a Product Owner so everyone just barely has an idea of what the fuck they want of us besides handling demands for API access now and then
>spend weeks doing basically doing fuck all
>not even pretending I wasn't, say so in every daily
The "work" I was putting on the clock basically amounted to reading documentation of shit we use, watching company given courses, drinking coffee and reading my colleague's shitposts on the internal company forum

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I work two FTE jobs. One full remote, the other hybrid. The hybrid one recently changed from 2 Days in the office to 4 days in the office. Fuck that. Actively looking for work to replace that one.

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I want to learn Unix, in a MacOS environment.
Is buying a MacBook the only way? Or are there ways I can VM or play around with a sandbox? My work has a testing mac but I don't wanna bring it home. I also don't wanna spend like 500 (or 300 used}

Do you guys have a career goal/path in mind?

>>107538946
selling 0days would be nice.

>>107536645
I'm cheap to them because they know I can learn all kinds of shit on a whim and thus I don't need any introductory period. So it's way cheaper and more efficient than hiring a new employee and introducing them to whatever they need to do.

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>>107538320
Based fellow overworker. Yes definitely get two full-remote. It's surprisingly easy to make sure that meetings don't overlap and stuff. And holy fuck does the double-salary feel good

>>107539163
If you can weaponize them, I can hook you up

>>107538946
Where I'm at **was** the goal. Now that I'm here, I'm focused on becoming a cultural trailblazer, I want to inspire the next generation and build various paths that can assist them in improving the world. Maybe I can make some of those improvements myself, but I want to make sure infrastructure is in place to make it easier for many others to outpace me.

>>107538908
>also don't wanna spend like 500 (or 300 used}
How poor are you?

>>107535228
>another obvious claude shill post
real subtle keep it up saar

i thinkeing to buying claude sars!

>>107538946
Minimize actual work and office days.
Maximize pay and employability.
Alternatively let me work on something that helps me achieve my goals.

>>107536792
this thread seemed really weird to me and now i know why. youre the same guy that was posting here a few months ago and got banned, and literally half the posts in twg vanished with it including many self replies. you should legitimately be euthanized or put in an asylum. the way you post is like chatbots from the mid 2010s. just totally inane nonsense that is pointless to engage or interact with in any way. enjoy the (You) weird retard freak invalid.

>interview in 2 days
things to tell yourself to convince yourself to not drink?

>>107538946
I want to be the next McAfee

>>107538946
Not really, probably quitting next year. I'll neet till I run out of money, then die I guess

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjliKhPLxHk

>>107540680
>he's scared of interviews
anon, you should stop giving a shit. literally just be yourself. if they don't want you, it's their problem. be confident of your skills.

>>107540680
I blew an interview once from being hungover. You feel like such a retarded cuck after that.

>>107525617
It will go away once you've improved your skills become competent. Not everyone deserves their position. Some reach a plateau early on and just coast until they get fired.

>>107527364
Your intuition is correct.
t. pajeet

>>107541742
why are you jeets like this?