This shit is so ass editionHow to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Papers, etc.):https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/>Frequency Response Graph Toolsquig.link>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• Tripowin Ruta10 (Mild V) - $18• Tanchjim Bunny DSP (Mild U) - $22• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22• EPZ Q1 Pro (V-shape) - $35>Bullet IEMs:• Tanchjim ONE DSP (5 Presets/5-Band PEQ) - $28• Etymotic ER2XR (Neutral) - $140>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) $18• Snowsky Melody (10-Band PEQ) - $38• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110>PMPs:• HiBy R1 - $85• HiBy M300 - $200>AVOID USING:• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver posPrevious Thread: >>107530069
>>107552525hot
What did we learn from previous thread?
>>107552544Techs do exist
>>107552544that no one here actually has any pos and that it's just 3 anons arguing in circles
>>107552544It exists but you can't measure it. You can hear it but not in an ABX test. It's technology but not science. It's...
>>107552556HRT.
why don't more companies aggressively undercut like GK did recently?
sex with that thing
>>107552556
>>107552551need well-mixed audio first. competent gear comes second.
>>107552584in what way? moondrop did that, tanchjim did that, dunu did that, everyone does that it's just not obvious sometimes
>>107552544that it is impossible to eq a recorded distorted guitar down to a clean guitar.
>>107552584It's literally KZ undercutting KZ by removing the accessories and metal shell.
>>107552551>>107552595You need music on the right to hear techs. If your music contains frequencies you're just going to hear frequencies. And we wouldn't want THAT.
>>107552636>If your music contains frequenciesas opposed to what? fuckin kek
>>107552670Fourier is a fraud. Music is not sines.
>blind tests Why this meme is still taken seriously when it does not even remotely replicate the real life use conditions?
>>107552700so what do you propose? blind tests can be done in a number of ways
>>107552709The opposite of this. Be inclusive to our amp users.
>>107552683>Music is not sines.oh I know. but you try convincing *them*, that every bit of audio going through their pos is NOT that sguiggly line constantly there, bouncing around to the audio they put through it. that's what they actually believe.
>>107552712you're right, we should be doing deaf tests instead
>>107552714>the dumbass actually fell for it.
>>107552525Cute anthro
>>107552714>this video mindbreaks illiterate poorfagshttps://youtu.be/UrBZsUBibtk
>>107552714>that every bit of audio going through their pos is NOT that sguiggly line constantly there, bouncing around to the audio they put through itThis but unironicallyJeet ears = metal tube
>>107552714Common core was a mistake.
>>107552715Now that's realistic.
>>107552715>deaf tests If you mean testing gear while never having listened or held it in their hands, then its performed by graphzos on daily basis
This bad boy buckbroke him so hard.
>>107552949>boysomething foxzo will never be.
/iemg/ Purchase WalkthroughShitbuds$2 Dawn 1DD$3 EDC Pro 1DD$4 Rue 1DD$4 Luki 1DD+1subwoofer$5 Konoka 1DD+1BA+1subwoofer$5 Kunten 1DD$6 ED9 Pro 1DD$7 Castor 2DD$7 Krila 1DD+1BA$8 Venus 1DD$10 QKZ x HBB 1DD$11 TRN Lucky Bag (5 iems)$12 Tangzu Waner$12 Rosefinch 1DD$12 GATe 1DD$13 Chu II 1DD$14 Bunny 1DD$14 PR2 1planar$15 Luna 1planar$18 Decet 5DD$20 LF3 Pro 1DD+1EST+1BA$20 ST7 2DD+5BA$30 VX Pro+ 1DD+8BAAmps$5 Applel Dongle$15 Black Pearl$100 Adv Gad$130 UP6$150 TA-66$175 RU7DAPs$10 cracked screen S3$15 unknown carrier S4$20 linux chinkheld R36$25 aliexpress tablet with otg
I did it
>>107553001My condolences to your hearing.
>paying that much for the stellarisoh my sides
>>107552544Here's what we learned:the resident EQ Guide user>doesn't have functional hearing = deaf fuck>fell in love in CCA CRA after seeing its graph back when it was hot stuff among shitbuds>after working his ass in local Indian jobs for years could finally afford to buy it along with an used 7/11 coupler>EQs it to death and back, hallucinates how it would sound despite never hearing it, mental illness>reads all the Shartman and Sean Olive academic publications without basic reading comprehension>thinks he transcended his lack of hearing, now he's able to hear everything with his mind and knowledge = mental illness intensifies>EQ guide drops>it becomes his new bible and reason to live>despite it he still thinks Harman is neutral because he never heard how thin and shouty it is>naturally attracted esl third worlders to /iemg/
Which headphones under 100 eurobux have the best noise cancelling? Best if easily available in physical stores
>>107553010I'll just use a DSP to search and destroy every form of treble
>>107553026With eardrum annihilating sine sweeps, right?
>>107553013not my fault you can't afford endgame
Endgame incoming. $17.93 Decet. Feeding my RU7 into this.
>>107553059>Feeding my RU7 into thiswhy the redundancy? your ru7 already rolls off treble enough as it is. why two amps?
SAARSThis is FR we all need
>>107553100Average multidriver KZ, yawn.
my earwax smells like petrol
try to debunk this tree, you can't
>>107553238Key Flaws in the Tree's LogicThe tree assumes a black-and-white world: either measurements perfectly capture everything about sound (impossible), or they're worthless (also wrong). In reality, audio evaluation is a spectrum—measurements provide objective baselines for tonality (what frequencies are emphasized), while subjectivity handles preference and nuances. Interpreting measurements is subjective, but that doesn't invalidate them; it makes them a tool, not a crystal ball.that was easy
>>107553292Common chatgpt L.
>>107553292whole bunch of nothing lmao
Is this what being deaf looks like?
>>107553329and the diagram is a lot of something? lol
tree won
>>107553292Continue.
>>107553238This tree assumes all audible differences must be visible in steady-state linear FR. That assumption is false, so every downstream conclusion collapses.our flowchart only works if audio systems are linear, time-invariant, and fully described by magnitude response — IEMs aren’t.
>>107553238This tree: Confuses absence of evidence with evidence of absence Collapses multidimensional phenomena into a 1D metric Misuses null tests, minimum phase, and measurability Ignores nonlinear and time-domain behavior Treats market price as a physical variable Rejects psychoacoustics entirelyIt looks airtight because it forbids the very domains where “techs” actually live.
>>107553371debunk one single element in it>>107553412>IEMs aren’t.explain why
>>107553001IEMs are the last thing I'd buy usedGross ass nigga
>>107553412Continue.
>>107553441do it yourself. you conceded as soon as you came up with the chart ;)
>>107553424>Misuses null tests, minimum phase, and measurabilityexplain>Ignores nonlinear and time-domain behaviorread the tree more carefully>Treats market price as a physical variableselect the correct route in the tree>It looks airtight because it forbids the very domains where “techs” actually live.what domains
>>107553447Tree won.
>>107553447Now this is a concession.
>>107553424Nigga you're at the start. Learn to read.
>5 minute wait for gptzo to write out xher prompts and paste the results
>>107553451who came up with it? a nobodywho came up with the eq guide? a nobodywho should take them seriously?I'll let you measure that
>>107553475I accept your concession.
>so mad xhe resorts to arguing about the creator instead of the treetree actually won
>heh, silly iemg believes harman is be-all and end-all of audio>wait, did you just post an image without a SOURCE???
>>107553412If only there were some measurement to show the degree of non-linearity of a system...
>>107553351This is what EQing a shitbud to perfection looks like.
>>107553094ru7 is balanced line-out
>>107553498harman is a meme to make you deaf
>>107552961Self-portrait in OP btw.
>tree
>being this mad because of a flowchartlmao
treexisters not like this
>>107553583
Who would win, >a trillion dollar LLM trained on a trillion of audiophile postsor>a fucking tree
Tree lost because it's not a tree, it's a DAG.
>>107553573ru7 is useless if you need to connect it to another amp. why the fuck does it cost so much if it needs a crutch?
treedildotrannyxisters we lost its so fucking over the techschuds won
>>107553811>t. techtard who lost to tree
>>107553816it's a diagram of bullshit.
>>107553846>bullshit>can't explain why
>minimum distortion they said
>>107553931Pretty sure their unit was defective, mine is fine.
>>107553737the tubes bring out the best of ru7's resistor ladders when ran in LO mode so the 5 dynamic drivers in the Decet are optimally driven
RU7 is so good it has a line out mode to bypass the amplification so you can plug it into your TA-66
>>107553855The tree repeatedly routes disagreement into:“Contradiction”“Can’t define techs”“Techs are subjective”But notice:Every “contradiction” is produced by the tree’s own forced assumptionsNo alternative models are allowedNo nonlinear, time-domain, or psychoacoustic frameworks are permittedThat’s not debunk-proof logic — that’s closed-system reasoning.explained
>>107554153>the tubes make up for what was lost by my overpriced useless donglesounds like cope to me. never thought I'd see an overengineered, overpriced dongle needing a crutch. but here we are
>>107554197i'm looking, still aint seeing it
>>107552525Kunten is endgame
>>107554323bottom left
>>107554367congrats you've been psyoped
>>107554218if your dac were good it'd have line out too but it doesn't and it isn't so here we are
>>107554409what makes you think I, or anybody, "needs" it?
>>107554533do you still need your dick even though you've never had sex?
>>107554201>No alternative models are allowedexplain what alternative models are available>No nonlinear, time-domain, or psychoacoustic frameworks are permittedsee the left sidemaybe if you stopped using gpt and used your brain you wouldn't be repeating yourself like a dementia patient
>cock love xthis pos is kinda gay
>>107554699>pretending listing measurements = having a model.you’re confusing “measurements I like” with “models of system behavior.” nonlinear, time–frequency and psychoacoustic models already exist and are used in audio engineering. your tree just assumes them away.putting CSD and transients on the left doesn’t help when the tree immediately declares them irrelevant via minimum-phase and null-test logic. that’s not inclusion, you're preemptively invalidating them as if you make the rules. if anyone's repeating themselves, just look at yourself. CSD plots really fucked you up huh?
bassfags = perfect hearingtreblefags = deaf
>>107555085show any combination of any measurements that point to quantifiable techswe showed you articles, papers, videos, and everything in between, not our fault that you can't read and have to rely on gpt for your informationtree really put you out of your depth lol
>>107555085Ask your LLM of choice for a singular (1) (one) CSD plot.
>>107555129a CSD plot without defined stimulus, level, windowing, and coupling conditions is meaningless. if CSD were sufficient by itself, you wouldn’t need to specify any of those. but you do.
>>107555174we already covered this, set the parameters you however you want and show any combination of measurementsand this time, include pics. maybe ask gpt to make some illegible plots, that'd be better than whatever it is you're posting
>>107555184refusing to define what would convince you, which means no evidence could ever satisfy you.
>>107553608this is an understatement desu. it's beyond material poverty, it's poverty of the soul
>>107555195post anything you want and just explain thoroughly. don't know why this is so hard for you, i'm letting you decide what you feel is most important
>>107553238debunked by bolting an aliexpress driver to the end of a trashcan and tuning to harman target
>>107553855it's just rationalwiki skepticism. what's there to explain? it's not even real skepticism lmao
>>107555101>>107555129can't you look this shit up yourselves? you act like it's a fantasy holy shit
I think the same people who don't eq their treble are the same ones who claim instrument positioning, separation, imaging, speed, soundstage, etc. doesn't exist. it's like incels claiming sex is impossible to get. just self-cuckoldry.
>>107555249why is it bullshit?>>107555250if it's not a fantasy, then surely you can post something to support your stance right?
>>107553238the onus is on you to prove charts measure imaging and positioning. peqdb jeets never did. so all you can do is nag.
>>107555380define imaging and positioning in a way that can be measured.
>>107555387that's your job. nagger
>>107555391we do, it's frequency response. if you have any other explanation please post.
>>107555397pleas do the needful SAAR
>>107555398mad and nothing to back up your schizo audiophool theories so you think that decades of danish acoustic research is indian
>>107555404peqdb lost
>>107555410so mad lol
>>107555411and I accept your concession
if charts measured imaging and eq modified it totally, there would be something you could show for it. if not, there's no reason to believe your viewpoint
>>107555428you have nothing to showanons tell you that eq works, which is the same as redditards telling you that techs exist
>>107555435there's no practical application to believe this. you are the most raped kikeslave
>>107555451stay mad lol
