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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D
-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500F
Workstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D

*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5
*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand
*Prices have increased for LGA 1700 processors, only worth considering if discounted or if reusing DDR4. New DDR5 builds should be AM5 or LGA1851

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet
*Most listings online are not actually 7950

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt
-Used: 2080, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)
4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-Native/High-end: 5090

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)
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>News & Rumors
Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027
RTX 50 Super, 2026 launch? Potentially cancelled, likely q3 if still being released
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"
AMD Redstone announced, RDNA4 exclusive, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbz30gJ6THY [Embed]
Micron consumer memory and storage (Crucial) is no more

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/


Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.

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Anon, where's that bait?
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remember you can just have all the swap you want
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4k budget(Peripherals included ) for a video editing set up that can also do some gaming.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Gd3wGJ

Suggestions?
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Bunker bros....how are we holding up?
I never had Ram fail on me but what I'm worried about is a storage failure, even with a backup I could only secure 1 gen 5 drive
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>>107554757
Make sure to keep 2-3 computers worth of parts in a Faraday cage, unplugged from the mains in case of nuclear war and the resulting EMP blast or another Carrington event
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>>107554741
DDR5 does not work and play well with 4 sticks. You need 2x32. Drop to an 850w PSU. Probably save another $100 at least on the motherboard.
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Will a 5060 ti 16 gb make a 500 watt PSU explode
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>>107554738
The other one was late; always check the filter before posting new threads.
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>>107554786
>You need 2x32

are you serious
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>>107554741
Wouldn't a nvidia card perform better for video editing
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>>107554786
>>107554741
>Drop to an 850w PSU.
Gay. He gets like 400w extra for $50 and it will last him 10 years for any future build. Seems like a good use of money.
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>>107554809
DDR5 does not work correctly with 4 sticks. Just reality. At best, it'll probably default down to 4800 and still not be stable.
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>>107554825
If you're paying more than $100 for a GOOD 850w PSU, you're either shopping in the wrong places, or Australian.
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>>107554839
should I get a different motherboard with only 2 slots then, I was really only getting the ASUS ProArt for the thunderbolt ports.
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>>107554741
It's not budget
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>Note: The Noctua NH-U14S 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler may require a separately available mounting adapter to fit the MSI MPG X870E CARBON WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard.

Is PCPartsPicker full of it or is this legit? I'm new to Noctua and AMD. I use to be an Intelfag since I first started building but I don't want that shit anymore.

>>107554848
You would blush at my 1000w purchase.

>>107554853
No, just eat the cost of 2x32.
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>>107554853
No need. Just buy a 2 stick kit of ram. Not all slots need to be occupied on the MB.
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>>107554853
No, they all have 4 slots. Why these days, I have no idea. But you're only going to use slots 2 and 4. As for mobos, look at lower priced ones. I guarantee one will have the ports you need. And still be a good board with lots of lanes, cooling, etc.
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Thinking of buying this ans shucking it.
As long as it's not an SMR drive I'm happy. Best case scenario it's a Seagate Exos inside, next would be Ironwolf, and last would be Barracuda.
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>>107554864
>You would blush at my 1000w purchase.
Probably not. I have one as well, but I was trying to save him some bucks at a couple places on his build since he needed bigger ram.
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>>107554874
Bruv
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>>107554878
True, but if he's already blowing $3700, he can afford another $400 on RAM.
Personally I never go below Platinum. Gold was for my first build. Last two were Seasonics but they're not the champs anymore in 2025.
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>>107554853
There's only so many boards with 2 ram slots and they're either very limited in features or overpriced to hell and none of them have thunderbolt
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>>107554881
That one is from wd, I only buy Seagate
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>>107554741
Get a 2x32GB RAM kit, it's more stable, faster, easier setup.
I would get at least a 5070Ti for that 4k display. Depends on budget oc but the choice of the display and the PSU indicate that money shouldn't be an issue.
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>>107554908
People from 2014 would be laughing at you. I was the opposite -- Seagate drives kept failing back then, and between 2008-2015 I knew never to touch them.
Then again, I need to check up on my HDD news, I heard WD has a bad rep nowadays. Who knows, do what you want anon.
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>>107554918
But it costs a lot more, can you elaborate?
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>>107554908
All my Seagate drives head park continuously to "save power and improve longevity." It's loud as fuck and I know it's wearing the drive out intentionally.
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>>107554878
what about this one:

Gigabyte Z890 Aorus Master AI

Its around the same price as a ProArt
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You people are using Hard Drivers in current year? Breh.
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>>107554939
If I was your father I would beat you
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>>107554937
was for
>>107554895
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>>107554741
>spending money on a intel instead o cheaper same power amd
>buying a high end mobo instead of a cheaper one
>buying cl30 instead of cl36 for cheaper
>buying samsung ssd instead of another brand for cheaper
>buying 1200w when you absolutelly don't need thtat much power and wasting money
>buying speakers when you already have headhpones
>not spending the savings on going nvidia instead of radeon (shit)
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So why are you telling me that 48gb RAM is good when its bad?
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>>107554953
If you live in the real world instead of dreamland and understand that bar China doing something, ram prices will never go below what they are now, you should be buying 128 GB minimum.
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>>107554908
> I only buy Seagate
The worst qt of all brands? Mmmmkay.
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>>107554881
WD Elements have soldered PCBs. I could remove them but it's such a pain.
Also I live in Canada. Prices here are double what the US pays.
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>>107554971
Is it true there a lot of a gamergirls there?
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>>107554809
No he is advocating non binary ram
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>>107554981
Yes, and they are 110% real gurls, too. With programming socks and everything.
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For super budget builds is am4 fine? Should I instead try an intel processor + mobo instead since I could upgrade to ddr5 from ddr4 without needing a new mobo? Using 1080p.
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>>107554971
I came across this in user pics. What the fuck did this guy do? A manual RAID 1 external? WTF
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>>107554985
>programming socks
Now you made it sus
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I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on a new system. Should I wait until after Christmas in the hope that prices might slightly come down or should I just get it now?
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>>107554987
Just get a refurbished optiplex or something else used.
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>>107554987
Boards are either DDR4 or DDR5. And, yes. for a budget, DDR4 is fine.
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>>107554996
If you know you are building, buy RAM NOW. or at least place in an order on a TBD and hope it goes through at a low price.
Waiting will get you nowhere in 2026. Or wait until 2027 and pray for a miracle.
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>>107554996
No, don't wait, the current "good" predictions are that the price will increase until 2027.
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>>107554996
Prices will not be going down.
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>>107554952
6650XT is faster then a RTX 4090
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>>107554987
>>107555007
why not buy dd3 + ddr4 adapter?
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>>107554952
ryzen 9 is more expensive that the i9...
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>>107555026
see>>107554881
literally a doorbuster if you place an order at 9am Pacific on newegg
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>>107555020
Because DDR3 was dogshit slow. And, the adapters do not exist.
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>>107555019
nice sourceless pic
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>>107554952
you also get better 1% lows
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>>107555038
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH8UTc6lwX8
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>>107555045
>2 year old video
every time lmao
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>>107554730
Yep. Just download more RAM!
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>>107554705
I currently have a 3090ti but I have been getting flashes to black for a couple of seconds then come back when on browser or desktop (but not while gaming or watching movie). Have already tried old and newer drivers with clean installs.
So I think my gpu is slowly dying, should I get a 5090 now or try and wait till we see what else is coming out in 2026?
and if get, which version of the 5090 to grab?
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>>107554926
Even my 4090 leaves to be desired in demanding AAA titles in 4k. I can't imagine a 9070 handling it. And if you intend to do anything other than gaming with your GPU a GeForce probably is the better choice.
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>>107555058
yeah only one generation behind the 5090
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>>107554962
> ram prices will never go below what they are now
Not anytime soon but eventually when the AI bubble bursts.
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>>107555062
>which version of the 5090 to grab?
The cheapest. You should also check your cable or replace it as caution.
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>>107555072
2 more weeks
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>>107555062
>didn't try repasting
>didn't try baking it
guys I tried nothing and I'm all out of ideas
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>>107555073
I recently updgraded to a new monitor that does 144hz instead of the 60 I was on and had to replace the hdmi for that to work. I am 80% confident the cable is ok. That being said it could be the monitor doing it's AI gamer bullshit causing the flashes
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>>107555062
Setup a custom water loop and buy the cheapest one since all boards are the same.
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>>107555062
Could be psu, i had an intermittent noisy psu blackscreened my 980ti a bit but mostly under load.
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2 months ago I built my PC, let’s see how much the price has increased

• 64gb Corsair 6000Mhz ram
$244 to $995
• 2TB Samsung 9100 Pro
$199 to $229
• Zotac RTX 5090
$2,299 to $3,095
• Ryzen 9 9950X3D
$655 to $679
• Lian Li Hydroshift II-C 360TL
$163 to $233

Other parts remained the same. Overall an increase of over $1,400 in just 2 months and it’s expected to get worse with storage now also starting to be limited
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>>107555167
how much are you selling it for?
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>>107554705
I NEED HELP FOR CHEAP GOOD SSD /PCBG/ BROS BECAUSE THE PRICE GONNA BE DOUBLED IN A WEEK

HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLPPPPPPPPP
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>>107555167
You HODL just like the boomers did with their tech stocks Ok?
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>>107554939
My questionable porn stash took 5tb in storage
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>>107555303
I regret purging my old porn stash. The retired actresses are irreplaceable.
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>>107555281
You're too late to buy cheap & good SSDs.
Crucial P5 Plus is one of the cheaper Gen 4 NVMe drives with DRAM in the US ($176).
Micron should have some leftover stock for RMA if you end up with a faulty one (not very likely to happen).

This is a DRAMless alternative, but the price difference isn't big enough to pick it.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Q7kH99/klevv-cras-c910-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-k02tbm2sp0-c91
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>>107555281
Crucial P5 Plus
Lexar NM710
Samsung 990 EVO plus

The Samsung 990 EVO plus comes in a 4TB version
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is a second pc worth anything i have my old am4 build parts laying around
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Pls answer anons... >>107554797
Why am I making this retarded question? Because I'm building a PC and my way around the ram prices is buying a "pre built" for kids that has a cpu with integrated graphics cards and no dedicated GPU, and it'll probably come with a 500 watts PSU
I'm unironically scared to ask the seller pretty much anything in case he might suddenly have an eureka moment and increase the price due to all this ram shenanigans
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How much is my pc worth now?
>RTX 4060, Ryzen 5 5600X, DDR4 32GB 3600mhz, 1 tb WD SN5000 NVME, MSI MAG A650 PSU, COOLER MASTER NR400
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>>107555409
If the power supply isn't total junk you're good
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>>107555426
My left kidney, the healthiest one
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>>107555432
Thanks anon
I did some research myself and people say it's fine but I always trust my anons better
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>>107555426
Forgot MOBO
>MSI PRO B550M VDH WIFI
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>>107555367
>>107555363
Fuck, im too late. The price already doubled
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>>107555455
What will you do now
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>>107555439
It's probably fine. What's the CPU though? And
>probably come with a 500 watts PSU
Is there a chance it will be a 450W instead? Or even lower?
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>>107555409
You probs aren't gonna run just a 5060 Ti 16GB off of that PSU. Post pcpartpicker link so we can see total power usage.
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>>107555463
Wait
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>>107554705
Would a 9950x3d be more future proof for gaming than a 9800x3d? Seems they basically perform the exact same for gaming currently.
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>>107555303
nigga just download handbrake and convert your movies to AV1 format. You'll save a shit tone of space.
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>>107555491
>convert
LOL
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>>107555497
encode, compress whatever nerd
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>>107555465
>It's probably fine. What's the CPU though?
Kinda cooked, a ryzen 5600g, I'm new to PC gaming, but based on the little I know, if I game at 1080p max settings everything, or 1440, the GPU should take most of the work load and not giga bottleneck this thing
High chances is a mother board with pci express 4 so that's gonna bottle neck the GPU a little bit
>Is there a chance it will be a 450W instead? Or even lower?
God, I really hope that's not the case but the chance is there, that's for sure
I saw another build with a 5600 as well and a guaranteed 500 watts PSU, pic related
That one has 32gb of DDR4 ram too, but look at this monstrosity, it's only one stick lol
The one I'm gonna buy tomorrow must come with two 16gb sticks, if not I'm just gonna return it
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>>107555505
r/datahoarder gonna laugh at you lmao
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Hows this SSD ? probably just use it for Game installation.
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>>107555469
That's gonna be hard for me to do, they don't give a lot of info, they don't name the motherboard, but it has 32gb of drr4, 5600g and a 1tb nvme SSD, this CPU shouldn't require a lot of power, right?
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>>107555522
any nvme is good and miles better than a sata drive.
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>he's still on DDR4
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>>107555537
>he fell for DDR5 meme
AM4 is still going strong.
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>>107555537
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>>107555537
I'll forever be on drr4 with how things are going
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i have 64gigs of ram but it is 3200mhz, am i screwed? what should i upgrade to get he best value out of this system?
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>>107555590
5950x
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>>107554996
You miss 12.12
t. bought during 12.12
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>>107555533
The ignorance of this post is astounding.
Depends on application and use and goals. Long term use? SATA SSD. Scratch and for intermittent access? NVME.

Depending on model NVMEs can fucking bake your PC. I gave up on the other SSD thread a few hours ago due to retards like the one I replied to.
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>>107555474
But how long will the wait be...
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>>107555590
You have 64 but its normal speed, it's a dumpster fire replace the entire box.
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>>107555638
Until my 512gb ADATA XPG SX8200PNP dies. This thing is really a legend the only regret is that i dont buy the 1gb version
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turns out deciding which case to buy is the hardest part
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>>107555631
ok grandpa. why don't you relax and put on your wedding tape on your vcr
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>>107555682
For me it was the PSU. The case was only hard because all you gaymers nowadays love your stupid case windows.

I'm a boomer who just wants a full ATX case but the quality of life that is CPU back plate access and cable management. Is that so hard to ask?
Also no RGBs, that shit is as tacky as hell imo.
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>>107555681
What the kappa doin
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>>107555729
Based
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>>107555590
Perfectly fine with a better Zen3 CPU. Get a new CPU and GPU. All set.
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historically, what happens to the used market during a recession? will desperate people sell off their gayming pcs for cheap and less desperate people be able to harvest them?
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>>107555729
https://geizhals.de/?cat=gehatx&xf=17572_ohne%7E550_5+-+Big-Tower%7E8659_ohne
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>>107555797
Maybe their PCs is the last thing they'd want to sell, so with the economy going to shit people who wanted to build or buy a PC have it ten times harder now
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You will live in an era where PC is as expensive as SUV Car
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>>107555474
SSD prices are expected to get worse before it gets any better, GL anon.
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>>107555834
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7900xtx for $699?
I need VRAM for VR and don't care about upscaling or framegen or raytracing etc. and worried prices either go up again or they sell out
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>>107555846
Fucking do it man
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>>107555682
same. trying to decide between the lian li 207 or the more expensive cases like the north, havn bf360 and the hytex50 and it's actually stalling my build rn
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>>107555797
Don't people spend more than usual during recessions to cope with their situation
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>>107555846
I thought radeons have the amdip when running VR?
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The Tower 600 from Thermaltake:

based or cringe
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Wtf is this PC bro
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>>107555974
It makes sense airflow wise but I don't like how the texts are rotated
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I'm this retard >>107555409 I'll just take the risk and ask the seller about the PSU, because if that shit is not certified by 80 PLUS I'm gonna have to return that shit
Trying to find a loophole around the sdd and ram prices is so fucking hard....
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>>107556045
Okay it doesn't, fuck my life
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I asked this in /lmg/ but I'll ask it here too:

if I buy a 5090 what's are some good cpu/motherboard combos? My budget is about $7k USD so threadripper is off the table. I'm not only using for llms but also video gen

I've also got a 3060, can that be used together with the 5090? I know it doesn't help much with video and image generation
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What's the modern equivalent of this?
I loved it so much I bought a second one off a guy on FB who had an unopened case, I have a 9950x and 3950x in these bad boys but GPUs are actually finally too big for the case 15 years later
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>>107555974
I think it could have been improved by making it just a little bigger/taller so that angled bottom fans could be pointed upwards at the board's surface. I find it odd that there are virtually no cases that try to have a "downdraft" intake fan array, its always a pass-over format.
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>>107554705
will chink xeon mobo kits come back into fashion now hw is expensive id imagine theres a giant surplus of ddr3
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Man, fuck my shit up, this trying to get a prebuilt shit with igpu just for the ram and sdd is not gonna work
Anons, pls pls tell me the most poorfaggot combo not to bottleneck a rtx 5060ti 16gb, what MOBO, CPU and PSU should I get?!?!?
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>>107556094
Btw I forgot to mention that I know a pci express 4 will bottleneck it, so we'll have to go with a pci express 4 one
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I'M NOT MAKING ANY SENSE IM SO TIRED
PCI EXPRESS 4, DOESN'T MATTER, CANT AFFORD A MOBO WIGH PCI EXPRESS 5
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>>107556094
asus w790 ace + xeon QYFR with half cores disabled
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>>107556094
ryzen 5500/5600 with stock cooler
b450/a520 motherboard
16gb of any ddr4
500gb-1tb sata ssd
650w psu
Any cheap case
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>>107556127
Get b550 if you badly want pcie 4.0 and can't settle for pcie 3.0
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>>107556064
Everything is RGBT glass these days.
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>>107556144
How badly can the bottleneck from a 3.0 can be on this GPU? Will look it up
>>107556127
I'm gonna have to buy 32gb of ram, I've seen benchmarks, 16gbs can't make it anymore in recent games
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>>107556166
it's an x8 gpu, you definitely want pcie4.
see which is cheaper, am4 or lga1700.
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First time buying an Asus GPU, only ever bought EVGA.

>manual that comes with it is for the air-cooled version
>comes with no screws to attach to the case
>can't put fans in reverse to pull air in, as their plug is too short to reach if you do that
Stingy motherfuckers, extra pissed at the lack of screws, meanwhile, my kraken gave me a whole extra set.
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I just woke up and thinking about the 96gb 6600c32 kit if I should buy them for 460€ and wait for them to be shipped from amazon
and just today now they went unlisted and unable to be ordered
it's over
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So is 1440p worth the tank in frames compared to 1080p? I got a 5070ti and I'm playing games like spiderman 1 and stellar blade at 144fps on ultra settings. I'm thinking of buying a really good oled monitor just wanna know if I should go for a 1080p or 1440p monitor?
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>>107556224
ying yang lookin ass pc
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>>107556231
get 1440p
your gpu is strong enough
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>>107556231
framewise i can't say for certain in your case especially since i like 165hz myself but you will appreciate the extra screen real estate regardless
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>>107556127
>>107556144
>>107556185
How hard will this thing bottleneck the PC
Also I'll go with the b550 and a Ryzen 5600
I'm juggling like 4 PC components stores right now, sorry for late replies
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>>107556280
QLC so avoid it, try and find the cheapest that is TLC.
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>>107556280
Nvm guy I'm sorry, maybe I'll go with this one, so far this thing is not looking so bad, hopefully once I get to the ram the total price won't go up like crazy
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>>107556299
Is this >>107556301 tlc by any chance?
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>>107555797
the opposite, PC is an infinite entertainment as long as you have electricity and access to the web, the price will just keep going up and you will be happy to build a shitbox from 15 year old parts for triple the price.
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>>107556230
pc building is dead until 6090 or possibly even further
I am NOT buying a 64gb 6000c30 kit for 800€

guess this is it, no desktop for several more years

it's truly over
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>>107556299
Okay it is tlc, sorry for asking dumb questions, I'm in a crazy rush right now
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Anyone knows why my memory isn't working?
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>>107556358
I do wonder if you actually could fool someone with the corsair lighting kits.
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I'm finding drr5 16gb for $74usd, is this price normal nowadays or cheap?
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>>107556127
why would you tell a guy with a 5060ti to get a PCI-3 mobo? especially when the difference between cheapest b450/a520 and B550 is like 20$?
>>107556166
hard. straight up shotgun to both knees, its not an option if you have more than a single brain cell
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I have 5k tell me why I should build a PC over buying a 16 inch m4 pro max.
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>>107556390
just get the macbook and some nice monitors
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>>107556380
It's okay, anon is probably just trying to help because I said I'm going super poorfaggot mode, I'll go with a 4.0 pcei express mobo
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>>107556376
very cheap, current average price for 16gb DDR5 is 110$ to 350$
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>>107556406
Too bad I'm the anon making the rtx 5060ti poorfag PC, unless I can flip that ram very quick I don't think it'll be worth buying, because I have no use for it
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>>107556397
He is telling you to get 500gb-1tb NVMe that is 60 to 110$ with poorfag options, NVMe and that GPU both locked to PCI-e 3 will be a dogshit cuckckage experience and there is no way around it.
Especially because you can just cut to 500gb NVMe and get yourself a reasonable B550 board for like 12$ more than b450/a520 and you would have like 38$ left. It just doesn't make sense to do it no matter how you slice it. This is not the corner you should cut.
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>>107556224
>pump as the high point
>blub blub blub blub
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>>107556449
Anon, I agree with you and I know that anon didn't give me the best advice, but I don't think he did it with a malicious intent
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Buy 5070/Ti GPU and hold breath for 24GB mod or buy 3090 and install Windows 7?
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>>107556060
9950x3d or the 9950x3d2 that's being announced in CES next month
X870E proart or x870e Aorus master x3d Ice

Dual GPU can be useful if you're into VMs and need additional GPUs to assign to a host/user
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>>107556470
get started with linux and pass trough a 1080ti to a windows 7 vm and game on that.
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>>107556472
thanks
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>>107556449
For 1 the original question was a poorfaggot build with no currency, 2, I never said get a 500gb-1tb NVME ssd I said SATA. 3 I amended my post below with a followup telling him to get b550 if that was too much poorfaggot options with pcie 3.0. Why are you so angry lmao.
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Should I buy a Cooler Master Stacker 830 in the current year?
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>>107556373
happens all the time, go on reddit and search for corsair ddr5 memory scam and you will see plenty.

>b-but he was selling it for 75% off, I thought it was legit!
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>>107556455
Yeah I know, hopefully going for a custom loop by the end of this year, fuck aios.
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>>107554705
Anon I'm building a pc for the forts time and have no idea which mother Baird to pick, it seems like every single motherboard has some issue. I bought a ryzen 5 7600x and a Radeon 9060xt. I am thinking about either getting a B850 or a b650. More inclined to get a B850 for that pci e 5
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>>107556497
well some people like the sound of water.
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>>107556498
Go ahead
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>>107556508
Go ahead and do what?
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>>107556498
get the cheapest b650 you can find. all their problems have been sused by this time. they have less features so there are less problems. they get used on most "custom" pcs you can find. so they are made for retards.
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>>107556509
Do it.
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>>107556509
You were inclined to get a B850 board.
Get the cheapest one that uses Driver Mosfets or SPS (Smart Power Stages)
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>>107556521
nigga every motherboard uses MOSFETs to control power and SPS is just a marketing term for what VRM does.
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>>107556531
Driver Mosfets are more efficient and cooler than traditional mosfets. SPS have additional telemetry for additional temperature and efficiency gains.
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>>107556482
I'm the retard trying to make the PC, I think you two are very good people for trying so hard to help some random like me on the internet, pls don't fight
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>>107556512
Which b650 boards have the least amount of problems and longetivity
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>>107556482
I no longer suspect stupidity and my levels of beak nose behavior tolerance are at all time low.
>sata
makes even less sense, they are more expensive than NVMes, in that storage range crucial p310 is 60$ for 500gb and you will not find an equally good sata SSD for that price, cheapest mystery meat 500gb sata is 50$
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>>107556553
I can put 5 SATA SSDs in my system with an extra I can hotswap, can you say the same about NVMEs?
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>>107556548
idk but asus has this thing called csm (they sell like two versions of a board and one is csm and the other isn't but they are the same). i got one of those because it was in the pc i bought used.
so they are comfortable to sell those boards in bulk and to companies that would not want to deal with them again if their boards start to randomly fail.
https://www.asus.com/microsite/csm
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>>107556545
we're not fighting yet, i'm just peeing on the anons leg

>buy the best motherboard your budget will allow and enjoy your compooter and don't worry too much about the specs on the sales slick
>use known reviewers on teh interwebz to help narrow your choices down
>a good quality mainboard with fewer features beats a shitty chinkshit one with more features
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Any cases these days with wheel compatibility and handles?
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>>107556566
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>>107556567
Too bad that's not for serious PC users no front drive bays.
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>>107556566
just get a military-grade Pelican case and make your own lanparty box, anon

>it will be more leet that way
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>>107556585
they see me rollin', they hatin'
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>>107556557
I am not saying NVMes are the only choice, when it comes to me I pick 10 ShitgateShitrakuda HDDs. It is just you don't want a complete random drive when you are on a budget. A "decent" SSD will be about 20$ more expensive than p310 for the same storage.
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>>107556224
Turn it vertical so that it is the frontal intake of your case. Doesn't look like the side of your case is meant to have fans unless it uses an adapter however. Add a rear fan facing in since the exhaust will be the top AIO.
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>>107555855
>207
enjoy your humming fans
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So is this thing any good? Sandisk Black SN7100
I'm reading it's designed for handles and laptops, but this is the cheapest 1tb nvme SSD I can find for the poorfag 5060 ti build
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>>107556561
>I need a build for this 5060ti GPU that runs on PCI-e 5
>what can I get?
>oh sure get one of these two PCI-e 3 mobos
>you see they are A WHOLE 11$ CHEAPER than PCI-e 4 ones!
>OH AND A 1TB SSD
no longer have any doubts
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>>107556621
>SN7100
not even close to the fastest you can buy but it will run cool in your laptop, no heatsink needed

>prices are so fucked right now, i feel your pain
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>>107554705
Okay I have elimemted motherboards to a couple of brands and models
Asus Tuf B850
Asus B850
Msı B850m Gamıng Plus Wıfı
Msi tomahawk mag B850
Please help me to chose anons
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>>107556636
does anyone even stock PCIe3 /consoomer/ boards now?
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WHY ARE FAGGOTS BUYING THESE STICKS AT THESE INFLATED PRICES?!?!?!?!?!
NOW THOSE FUCKING COMPANIES WON'T EVER BRING THE PRICE BACK DOWN AND THIS'LL BE THE NEW NORMAL, JUST LIKE WHAT HAPPENED WITH GPUS

FUCK OFF
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>>107556638
Omg bro I want this for a desktop, I'm cooked
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>>107556644
Forgot to say, I can buy b650 versions as well. I just need something without a known history of critical problems
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>>107556652
only mobos without problems are the ones that never got used.
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>>107556644
MSI MPG B850 EDGE TI
Or the Tomawhawk is fine too.
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What about this one, bros? For the 5060ti 16 gigs
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>>107556644
>>107556655
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>>107556648
The more you buy the more you save
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>>107556644
>>107556659
Also I should mention that like anything the price is really important. Which boards are good depends almost entirely on how much they cost. Like the Tomawhawk is $190 at Newegg with a promo code, that's a pretty good price. But everywhere else it's $230+, at that price you should consider something else (like the Edge TI).
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>>107556648
what do you want people to do? there are lots of people out there playing the waiting game for almost a decade now going from crypto mining to ai. used market is dead too so it's either buy now or wait(tm) for another 1-X years
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>>107556661
yass that one at least has DRAM cache, you will be more pleased with it
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>>107556694
ooof wait the Viper is much older design, not a good comparo to mention DRAM cache. It does advertise a longer life tho.
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>>107556648
Panic buying.
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>>107556545
For the last 4ish days we had constant flow of am 4 poorfags and the issue of PCI-e 3 vs 4 was discussed in full, you can even check the archives and you will most likely find detailed explanations in nearly every thread. The specific issues of b450/a520 PCI-3 were discussed many times, when building on am 4 get the cheapest B550 for a whopping 80 usd it is the only option that makes any sense in the current year, other options just don't exist.
Especially so because you have asked for a build for 5060TI.
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>>107556621
>So is this thing any good? Sandisk Black SN7100
It's not awful. It's solidly a "middle of the pack" performer: good at a lot of things, great at (almost) none, and has some weak areas. It may not be great if you're planning to use it for your Operating System though. What are some other similarly priced drives where you are?
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>>107556618
can always replace the shitty fans, right?

>but the whole fishtank thing, why? i don't wanna see all the Cheetle that gets into the nooks and crannies, and I don't wanna be messing around cleaning it every week risking that my fat tendie-greased fingers will fuck something up
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>>107556648
If a guy has a job he can buy a 400$. For a lot of people PC is a one in a decade type of deal, so they are willing to shill more to get more. Waitfags are crying but buying because they want new shit. Normalfags are buying because they have a job. Do not blame the consumer. Blame the wafer manufacturers and AItrash for rigging the market.
>THIS'LL BE THE NEW NORMAL
you wish, the price will go up further still, we are nowhere near the actual shortage. Currently there is no shortage on consumer segment, but there will be one and this one will be the OEM industry wide. By the way do you have phone? might be already too late to get one with decent capacity and RAM for a reasonable price but you might want to look into it before the next year.
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>>107556711
>>107556724
Well I just found a Adata Legend 900 1TB for a similar price, only 11 bucks more, will this be my best option?
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VGA is secured. Only need to buy another 4TB SSD and 2 8TB drive before the jew in control.
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>>107556748
It makes 0 difference, you are talking to mega autists who think everyone is working as a video editor or a data scientist
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>>107556748
>Adata Legend 900 1TB

the original DRAMless WD would be a better choice

>would not touch an adata drive with a rented dick
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>>107556765
So the viper thing I posted before? I'm so sleep deprived righ now haha
>>107556760
Just trying to get the best for the little money I have anon, pls understand....
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>>107556760
>who think

or are just just trying to be helpful

>am autist who edits data science videos
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>>107556748
Like >>107556760 said, it ultimately will matter very little, but as a mega autist I would recommend the SN7100. It outperforms in the Viper in synthetic and real-world benchmarks and like >>107556765 said, I wouldn't trust an ADATA drive with someone else's data, much less my own.
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>>107556771
well the viper is an older design that has a caching controller and the WD is a newer design that does not

>so the WD being newer means it could perform better in some scenarios
>you need to go look up their specs and compare
>WD (Sandisk) is a known thing and Patriot is a known thing, though a lot of Patriot products are just branded chinkshit with a warranty
>so take a little extra time and research the two drives instead of relying on the >>107556776 random autists posting here
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>>107556665
The most correct statement of the last 7 years
They really did make it so
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>>107556666
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how viable is an aquarium pc? no plans to ever update the parts, thinking of going with it since with the current prices by the time I upgrade I'll just get a whole new machine.
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>>107556792
Well you said the viper will last for longer, it has a nice graphene heatsink and it's also cheaper so I'll go with that one
The build is almost over I believe I only need a PSU and the case now
What PSU do you recommend?
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>>107556815
this is literally the stupidest idea ever and i think you should buy it and regret it for the rest of your (hopefully) long life

>no really, buy it and come back and post pictures so we can laugh at you
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>>107556661
use this handy image and for more detailed information on the drive just type it into this thing https://www.techpowerup.com/ssd-specs/
buy combining these two you can find the perfect drive for your needs in no time and get a good understanding of the drive's position on the food chain
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>>107556830
why tho, like i said its a one off pc, when something goes bad or it is no longer useful im throwing it in the trash
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>>107556831
I can't believe wanting to play videogames was gonna be this complicated...
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>>107556828
look up the specs on the TBW values for the drive, that is the "life" of the drive.

for your PSU have a look at the sticky the OP has worked so hard to very laboriously copypasta for us and then buy the one that fits your two budgets: wallet, and power (add 50-100 watts to your power consumption budget as headroom)

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/
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>>107556831
>no samsungs in the high end list
yeah im calling bullshit
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>>107556846
>throwing it in the trash
just skip the middleman and use the money for something more useful like wiping your bum
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>>107556853
already have a bidet
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>>107556852
nigga you either blind, stoned, or stupid
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>>107556847
Not really, I did 10 minutes of research into different NAND types and controllers bought the cheapest one that was 'OK' and apparently it's a high end drive.
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>>107556857
seriously you can get a really nice little tank setup and enjoy having fish for the money
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What are the negatives of buying a external SSD compared to internal?
Why I'm asking because if I wanna use it on other devices that are not a desktop in the future
>Can connect usb-c to laptop/phone/any other shit
>2000mb/s speeds
>Cheaper 8tb than any other choices
The negatives seem almost non existent
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>>107556864
>negatives
it's going to be slower than a native drive and it's more likely to fail when you repeatedly plug and unplug your futanari collection into your phone so you can take it into the bathroom for a fap session

>we know what you're up to, anon
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Gigabyte Aorus GeForce RTX 5090 Xtreme Waterforce
Gigabyte X870E Aorus Master X3D Ice
AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D
Super Flower Leadex VII Platinum Pro ATX 3.1 1200W
Antec Flux Pro TG Full Tower Case Black
WD Black SN8100 NVMe PCIe Gen5 SSD 1TB
Corsair Vengeance 128GB (2x64GB) 6400MHz CL42 DDR5
Lian Li Galahad II Lite


Is there anything I should swap out or could get similar performance cheaper?
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>>107556864
You have to install windows as windows-to-go, it doesn't boot from usb otherwise.
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>>107556890
Everything. Looks like you did 0 research and just picked the most expensive things available.
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>>107556890
>similar performance cheaper
you will get moar quality responses by posting a PCPartPicker list

>otherwise the randos that post here won't know the number of shekels in your budget and cannot halp
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>>107556885
Ofc slower, but irrelevant I can literally install all my slop games on my laptop on it too and it will work fine
Likely to fail when, the USBc port dying?

>>107556893
I'm not gonna install windows on it though just for storage
Not having a windows install and no internal drive seems kinda cooked
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>buy a 77" OLED
>buy a ps5 pro for gta6
Does this gaming combo beat a PC in 2026? Or am I crazy
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>>107556907
>>107556890
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v4nGsp
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>>107556919
No, it might beat a budget chromebook. The cpu in consoles is really really slow
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>>107556920
A truly unlimited troll budget. Reducing the cost of a component by say 300 ameribucks would be massive for a normal parts list but 4% on this one.
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>>107556908
it's just my personal perspective about external drives, i have multiple that i use for different purposes but for any actual data i need to keep around i do not trust external drives (have NAS for online storage and proper removable drives for backups).

>also not a "normal" /consoomer/ so you do you, those are your shekels/futadatas/usecases
>have only had a couple of USB devices fail over the decades
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>>107556934
well I buy a pc every 10 years or so, so it evens out
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Guys I genuinely need your help, I have zeor experience with these things. Should I get a B850 or b650 with future proof in mind? And which brand and model?
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>>107556981
Don't play whack-a-mole with brand names and model numbers. Learn what a motherboard is, what the vrm does and so on.
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>>107557004
Please tell me anon, I bought a msi b650 tomahawk wifi and they sent me Ken with faulty cpu pins so I'm looking for good alternatives.
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>>107556934
kek you do know that some anons have actual shekels to spend, right anon?

>>107556920
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v4nGsp
IDK about "saving" money on this list but the LianLi cooler - other anons, do LianLi still have iffy pump quality or was that fixed?

also would not stick myself with an factory watercooled vidyacard but thats just me, if i was going to spend that much on a vidyacard i would not want to worry about a shitty pump going out a couple of years from now.

>and the whole case-with-a-window-faggotry meme cannot die soon enough
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>>107557015
they will give you a new one if you received a broken one
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Do I have to screw my fans to the case if they are magnetic?
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>>107557035
The seller is being a piece of shit and refusing to accept any fault. I'm sending it to the msi service in my country. Is Asus rog strix B850 wifi any good?
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>>107557041
it's your computer, you can do whatever you desire
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>>107557044
Yes any fancy expensive board will be good. The budget region is a minefield, you really have to know what you're doing to operate in the lower market segment.
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>>107557046
Come on bro please?
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>>107557055
It's your computer, you can do anything you want with it
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>>107557017
thanks for the advice. So something like this is fine?
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qkdMnQ/zotac-gaming-solid-oc-geforce-rtx-5090-32-gb-video-card-zt-b50900j-10p

it's tough to find a case with a mesh side, which is what I prefer, and something dignified (without the rgb lights)

for the cooler, what do you suggest?
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>>107556929
But you won't be playing gta6 slop for a year and a 64gb kit is the price of the entire ps5 pro
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>>107557069
it's animal cruelty

>also not good for the fish
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>>107557050
Then rog it is, I've been dealing with faulty shit for 3 weeks now. First my msi mag case had a faulty psu, after 10 days they sent a new one only for us to find out the mother board had bent and poking pins all along. I'm cutting the bs and paying extra money to get fancy shit despite being broke
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>>107557090
>for the cooler, what do you suggest?
a jacket.
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>>107557090
Consider a Fractal North XL then, no lights and a mesh side panel.
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>>107557069
>normies
No John, you are the normalfags.
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>>107556939
I had one external HDD fail during a power outage connected to my desktop
Idk seems more versatile
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>>107557116
I bet you have a prebuilt normie
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>>107557090
zotac is one of the few vendors from whom i have gotten a shit product out of the box

>buy a Gigabyte to match your board if that matters
>i rolled with an Asus for my upcoming build (parts are trickling in)
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>>107557135
>parts are coming in
did you buy each part of the mobo or something?
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Fuck it I'm waiting for the ps6
How the fuck did the ps5 go and entire release cycle without any games though?
Literally no exclusives
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>>107557124
like i said it's your usecase so go for it and happy fapping

>weirdo
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>>107557147
When it comes out smart people will buy it and remove the ram before returning
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>>107557144
sourcing parts is half the fun
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>>107557135
the store where I'm buying it from, the zotac is like $500 cheaper than the other 5090s
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Alright anons, this is how the poorfag rtx 5060 TI 16gb PC build ended up looking
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fx98Wc
This will cost me around 1,038 USD where I live
This will be my first gaming PC ever
I'm truly thankful to every single anon itt who tried to help me and offered me guidance
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>post a reply on r*ddit saying 12GB VRAM on the 5070 is enough
>the GPU has bigger problems than the VRAM buffer considering it can start chugging at a comfortable 8-10GB VRAM usage if you crank the settings and RT way up
>get downvoted
why do I even bother arguing with AMDbrained retards on leddit
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>>107557069
>fish disappears inside gpu fan.
crab_pipe.webm
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>>107557166
Be aware that your motherboard doesn't have wifi, so you'll have to consider a wifi adapter if you need wifi else try find a motherboard with built in wifi.
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>>107557224
or he could be an EthernetGOD and just run a cable under the door or through a wall
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>>107557165
>zotac is like
cheaper because it's a zotac and they can't get rid of them

>caveat emptor
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>>107557232
actually, I use a wifi mesh device. most come with the ability to hoof up stuff via an ethernet cable. and presumably you can use a hub.
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>>107557224
you can just plug in your old phone and use it as a wifi antenna
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>>107557147
>holiday 2027
>7 years
>SEVEN FUCKING YEARS
>OF NO FUCKING GAMES
>broken promises
>lmao what's 8K
>4K120 fuggedaboudit
>native 4K60 in general fuggedaboudit
>$499 launch price? scalped and costs 1k+++
>controler starts drifting because the sticks aren't hall effect
>$15 8bitdo chinkware controllers are hall effect
>been 5 years
>next gen still 2 years away btw
>GTA 6 will run on the base PS5 from 2020 somehow
>PC port will be unoptimized shit with 4070 as minimum requirements
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>>107557232
the patrician has ethernet in their walls and the basement dwelling sperglords keep their router and servers in the same room as the PC and uses cable clips to pin the cables to their baseboards
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>>107557269
meanwhile notable pc releases, 2025:
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>>107557269
between ps3 and ps5 i think ps5 wins the nogaemz contest
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>>107557276
There are notable PS5 releases, the issue is they're all cross platform titles or got ported to PC within a year or two. As a Pee Cee gaymer I have no reason to buy a Pee Ass 5, because I can just play all the good games on my computer.
You can't sell a console to PC gamers without exclusives. That's why PC gamers that also own a console generally have a Troontendo as you can't play your Marios or Zeldas anywhere else without emulation.
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>>107557224
>>107557232
I'll just use ethernet, I don't need to do anything crazy to get it working, the modem is inside my room lol
I know I kinda went retarded with the PSU btw, would you guys get a cheaper one to maybe get a better CPU or would that be even more retarded?
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>>107557290
750W is not too overkill for your system. It will fall in the middle of the PSU's range which means more power efficiency, less noise, less heat, etc. the good stuff
You can't really get a better CPU without spending a bajillion on X3D or getting some meme 8 core.
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>>107557290
I would get a 5700X and buy used ram. People are still reluctant to pay over 50 euro per 16GB.
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>>107557168
the bare minimum for today is a 5080, 5090 for middle and 6000 for high end.

>too expensive
this hobby isn't for you then
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Is the 240 Atmos a good AIO?
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>>107557290
do not cheap out on the PSU, anon
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>>107557312
Oh that's very nice then, I actually didn't choose this PSU cuz I wanted, but because it was the only available on the site where I'm buying all the parts except for the GPU
>>107557315
Unfortunately I can't buy anything used, I live in the middle of nowhere and people on facebook marketplace refuse to ship anything
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>>107557321
I'm fine with being gigapoorfag tier (RTX 5070) because that's just who I am. Using DLSS at 1440p is my calling.
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>>107557334
Won't do thanks to you guys' advice, wouldn't want the PSU to explode and ruin all the components that I plan on using for the next 5 years, even longer maybe
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>>107557335
>middle of nowhere
do you have problems with wildlife? the bears keep eating my fruit trees and IDK how to stop them.

>people on facebook marketplace
will rip you off any way they can
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>>107557165
US$500? That's pretty hard to ignore
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>>107557355
yes, but - it's a Zotac
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>>107557362
Honestly I haven't heard about any issues with them this gen. The only ""problem"" is the 700W fuse if you're modding it for unlimited power
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>>107557342
>money for 1440 screen
>only enough money for 5070
prioties am i right
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>>107557368
kek anyone who bothers to mod a 5090 is not gonna start with a Zotac

>then again this is /pcbg/ so there is probably at least one freakposter who has done this very thing
>for me Zotac has always been a cheapo chinkshit brand so i didn't even look at them when shopping this time around, would probably even go so far as to buy a PNY before a Zotac
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>>107557389
>1440p screen
>200 euro
>RTX 5070
>625 euro
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>>107557400
>euro
you have a 27 countries in your union that you can buy a used 5080+ from
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>>107557400
I bought a Q27G4XF for 150 euro, is that any good?
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>>107557410
5080 costs more than my car, and my car can seat 7 people, go forward and steer left and right, while a 5080 can just generate AI sloppa and play vidja goymes.
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>>107557389
i'm running a 5070 and a 32" 120hz 4k screen

>monitor-side hardware scaling exists for a reason, 5070 is fine for filthy casual /gayming/
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>>107557353
>do you have problems with wildlife? the bears keep eating my fruit trees and IDK how to stop them
I just 1v1 all the wildlife here, bare handed
If you live in the first world just use a gun
>will rip you off any way they can
Probably, and seems very dangerous too
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>>107557420
yeah probably
>1440p
>180hz
>IPS
>27 incher
same basic specs as my Samsung G5 G50D, and both cost 200 euro /here/
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>>107557429
>just use a
the goddamn gubbimint here prevents me from decimating the fucking bears and their faggot deer friends without explicit and inconvenient permissions

>also there are an awful lot of rats innawoods here but those i can plink with my trusty Wrist Rocket
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>>107557395
modding is as easy as a vbios flash ever since the matrix 800w bios dropped. hard mods are a thing of the past now.
ironically, the asus astral is ass because it cant boot the matrix bios unlike ventus's, windforces and base zotac and pny cards
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are AIO liquid cpu coolers only needed if you plan to overclock?
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>>107557459
I thought the Asstral was the best because it's the most expensive?
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What's the best thermal paste to repaste my 3090. I heard stuff like Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut dries in 6 months so those are not an option.
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>>107557463
i bought into one because it can be moar quiet at "normal" CPU loading so: not just for overclock
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>>107557464
the meta changed 3 weeks ago, the astral is being called the trashtral now in OC forums
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>>107557493
damn, turntables and all
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>>107557493
what's wrong with the anal
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>>107557447
You have to like somehow kill 1, idk how, you gotta get super lucky, and then you just make a totem with their corpse
All the other bears, deers and rats will leave you alone
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>>107557501
old board revision with asus' old way of cutting costs by controlling 4 fans with 2 pwm signals. most aibs ship cards that have 3 pwm signals including the newer matrix which cuased a bios incompatibility
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> can get a 5090 suprim for 2700 bucks
> can get a 4090 for 1800 bucks
> definitely a new PSU for 5090
> only raw performance in count, fuck off with your dlss nonsense please
Personally i really want to go with 5090, but is it wiser to slow down a little and get 4090 to see what the time brings?
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>>107557508
I think the 4090 card is better, it has hotspot sensors unlike 5000 series.
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>>107557476
Arctic MX-5 is an old school paste that will last a long time and not pump out and is non-conductive but is not the best performer for the overclocker. it will /work/ though.

>do you really need to repaste though? you probably don't, just clean the Cheetle off of your fans and heatsinks.
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>>107557508
5090's will be going up in price over the next year so they're more valuable to hold onto.
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>>107557503
literally had a deer staring into my living room window the other day and my lazy ass dogs did not even bark at it.
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>>107557532
It's a 5 year old 3090 that's never been repasted. And when I compared my temps (without case side panel) to that specific cards reviews it's hotspot temp was 10 degrees higher while the fan speed was 300 rpm more.
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>>107557544
That's kinda lucky, I don't like it when my dogs bark too load, I just let them be tho
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>>107557537
why is that? I mean if 5090 goes up because of capacity and maybe AI thingy, but this should touch the 4090 too
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>>107557508
>only raw performance in count, fuck off with your dlss nonsense please
/pcbg/ - luddite general
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>>107557573
Ai demand sure, but it's more that the 5090 has 32gb of gddr7 in a time when there is a ram shortage.
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>>107557553
like anything else, repasting introduces risk, so if you're going to do it make sure you practice safe /pcbg/: be careful of ESD, and use only a non-conductive paste

>recommend to use a proper electronics cleaner (not the kind for car electrical systems) to get the old paste off the chips and heatsink
>have you tried tuning an undervolt to bring your thermals down?
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>>107557607
What about PTM7950 or is it a meme?
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>>107557575
I need so much DLLS in my photoshop/blender pipeline, you wont believe it
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>>107557613
ptm7950 is literally king just below liquid metal but won't destroy your pc if it leaks
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>ram is closer to the cpu
>yet is slower than vram which is far away
explain
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>>107557613
>PTM7950
works but will not be any better than the MX-5 performance wise plus it's going to be harder to install it, it's more for easy removal later (no mess to clean up).
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Anywhere I can buy separate power/reset buttons for my case?
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>>107557637
latency vs bandwidth.
if you paired your cpu with GDDR ram you would get terrible performance. just look at ps5 benchmarks (4700s, bc-250)
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>>107557613
It's good but maybe or maybe not worth the trouble.
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>>107557613
that material is perfect for gpu cooling
it can even perfectly cool non-flat surfaces like the radeon vii
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OK anons I'm getting myself a rog strix b850 a gaming wifi, is it any good? The reviews seem nice but some of them talk about a faulty audio card
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>>107557649
any electronics supply house will have a huge selection of momentary switches you can use to DIY your panic buttons

>or did you want something in a shiny new /consoomer/ box?
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>>107557644
>harder to install
just freeze it before installing.
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poor anon >>107557553 is having all the rando sperglords of /pcbg/ shill the expensive PTM film when a cheap tube of MX-5 will work just as well and be easier to install.

>i >>107557607 say use the MX-5 but i've only been doing this for around 35-36 years so IDK maybe i'm wrong
>and yes, faggots, i'm using PTM film for the waterblock on my CPU
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>>107557670
>or did you want something in a shiny new /consoomer/ box?
No, I've come to realize old steel chassis with lots of drive bays and interior space are more comfortable so I want to go full DIY mode. My own front or top I/O, 3d printed covers and panels/mounts/trays/drive cages, filters, everything.
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>>107557553
Get some new thermal pads on that 3090 for the memory chips.
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>>107557637
RAM is close to the CPU it serves while VRAM is closer to the GPU it serves and the PCI bus is the bottleneck that ties them together
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>>107557703
You can buy something like a vandal resistant switch for pc if you want a power button for a modded case.
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>>107557703
>full DIY mode
if you do this i will be truly seethingly envious because i wanted to /make/ a perfect case with ducted airflows and sound dampening for my upcoming /build/ and my wife said no because <insert list of all the shit that comes with being married and having an old house and wanting to have regular non-bitchy sex here>

>please do it and come back to post pics
>also know that with a manual sheet metal nibbler and a hobby sized sheet metal brake and a hand drill with some titanium bits you can make an amazing amount of /things/
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>>107556890
get the X870E Aorus Xtreme X3D board
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>>107556890
Get the gskill 6000cl34 2x64gb kit instead. It has much higher sk hynix chips and 6000mhz will work out of the box unlike 6400mhz
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>>107557796
much higher quality*
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Why do people still build PCs in 2026? There's literally zero fun games. Just buy a mac.
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>>107557814
Low effort bait. 2/10, next time try comparing AMD and Nvidia for guaranteed (You)s. Maybe mention drivers and VRAM for extra effect.
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>>107557814
what does mcdonald's have to do with pc building?
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>>107557814
only /poorfags/ shill for a /platform/ and only raging /faggots/ trollpost on /pcbg/

>why not have more than one of each?
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>>107557814
I like owning things
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>>107557090
Don't get the Zotac, they have probably most horrible customer support/warranties. Get the Aorus Master/MSI Suprim/Asus Astral.
For cooler get the Arctic LF3 Pro 420. It's very strong and cheaper than lots of other coolers, it also fits into Antec Flux Pro without any issues.
You might want different RAM, 6000CL30 will just werk, 6400 might not and you would need to adjust it manually. Also do you need that much RAM? You can get slightly less, but faster, with better timings.
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>>107557644
>MX-5 performance
imagine using mx when duronaut exists
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>>107557508
just buy both and use the 4090 as dedicated Physx card
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So where do I get watercooling parts now the ek died?
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>>107557980
alphacool, bykski
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>>107557825
For me, it's the McChicken.
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>>107558007
thanks
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>>107557856
>Don't get the Zotac
>do you need that much RAM
did not question earlier (did shit on zotac) but will comment that 32 is the new minimum, 64 or more better because you can do freaky things like increasing the system file cache, disabling kernel paging and also disable pagefile completely (you can look that last one up yourselves, its easy).

>do tune L2 and L3 caches regardless of how much RAM you have, IDK how on Linux but have always found Linux not to be ignorant like Windows is with its generic setup.

remember kids - if you do it wrong you can fuxor your system and /pcbg/ will laugh
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Disable kernel paging - does what it says on the tin. If system is low on RAM - don't do this

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management
Parameter: DisablePagingExecutive
Parameter type: Boolean
Default value: 0
Tweaked value: 1
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Optimize (increase) system cache - sets the system to maintain a standard size or a large size file system cache and reduces paging to disk. If system is low on RAM - don't do this.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management
Parameter: LargeSystemCache
Parameter type: Boolean
Default value: 0
Tweaked value: 1
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Tune L2/L3 cache sizes - CPU-Z will tell you what your physical cache sizes are (you need this infos). Do this on any system.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management
L2:
Parameter: SecondLevelDataCache
Parameter type: Decimal
Replace value with the true value of your processor Level 2 cache. In my case, CPU – Z tells me 18 x 256, so the value to put in my case is 4608.

L3:
Parameter: ThirdLevelDataCache (make a new parameter named exactly that)
Parameter type: Decimal
Set value to that of your processor, I have 45MBytes, so I have to do 45 x 1024, which means I have to put 46080 as value.
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Reboot. Enjoy.
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Should I heat my thermal paste with a heat gun before spreading?
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>>107557888
>duronaut
shitty thick hard-to-spread-evenly paste that cements things together?

>no but thanks for playing
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>>107558179
you should just buy good quality paste instead of the durr-my-nuts
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>>107558189
>oh my god it takes me 2 minutes to apply it instead of 30 seconds, its so over
enjoy your high temps lazy sissy
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>>107554729
>>107554729
>>107554729
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>>107558202
the poor anon with the 3090 when he goes to service his card again after the fan dies and finds the shitty paste you're shilling has glued it together, if it's "performance" they are after they won't use MX-5 or Duronaut (i sure don't), but i get the feels they just want to keep the old thing going a while longer with the least possibility of fucking it up.

>just because you fell for it doesn't mean others have to suffer
>like i >>107557700 said, only been doing this shit for 35 years
>so many tubes of old paste waiting to be thrown away
>i do laugh when anons fuck their shit up though
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>>107557821
This post goes too hard
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>>107558441
what a pathetic attempt at - what, assertiveness? vitriol? what is it supposed to be?

>the typed equivalent of squeaking out a tiny fart
>go for thunder or keep your cheeks clamped, anon
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>>107558535
I'm a fart enjoyer anon, you couldn't possibly understand
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>>107558575
i do, actually. in my household we rate each others farts based on stringent criteria.

>if i can get the side panels on my full ATX tower to rattle i know i'm winning
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did i fuck up getting a 24" 2k monitor? i really like it, but a lot of stuff looks awful at 125% scaling and too tiny at 100%
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> g skill trident z5 royal
> 96 gb 6400
> got it from local ebay packed new for 284 usd
> stonks at 1500 usd
So that's how rich feels
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>>107558667
LOL we do the same here
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>>107558670
>stuff looks awful
it's 2025 and scaling is still a shitshow

if you like it, keep it and enjoy it, if the stuff that doesn't scale well is paying your bills maybe you should reconsider.



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