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>News & Rumors
Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027
RTX 50 Super, 2026 launch? Potentially cancelled, likely q3 if still being released
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"
Micron consumer memory and storage (Crucial) is no more
Nvidia reducing production of 50 series gpus next year (https://overclock3d.net/news/gpu-displays/nvidia-plans-heavy-cuts-to-gpu-supply-in-early-2026/)

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/


Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.

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why don't they just increase RAM production

I guess that's it for RAM hard drives GPUs and ssds for the foreseeable future. I hope nothing breaks on me. Time to let your pocketbook hibernate for about half a decade

>>107584912
its ultimately a highly technically complicated product that requires the typical billions of investment to make a single fab with asml machines and clean rooms
theres a lag to it because the fabs take years to come online

AI is a bubble and many expect it to pop so the demand may not go on forever. No one knows where the money to pay for all the datacenters is meant to come from.

>>107584934
I just bought 3x 4TB NVME and 2x 2.5 2TB SSD
Yeah my wallet took a huge hit but I'm set for 7 years+
Now to quick buy some 10TB HDD for backup, cold storage and porn

>>107584953
So you're saying I should hodl my cash and wait for a dotcom bubble 2.0 to happen? Jokes aside, AI is pretty great with research and statistics. The niggers eating all the RAM and memory are the image generators. Notice how memory issues weren't a problem up until OpenAI's videoslop generator released.

>tfw bought an 5080 on sale for 900$ couple months ago
I paired it with a 5700x3d cuz i didn't want to upgrade to am5. i should be fine, right?....

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I bought something old.
Lets see if it still perform well as a NAS.

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>build a decent pc back in 2019
>thinking of upgrading next gen
>gpu prices never went down in my country
>other pc parts going way the fuck up in price
Same as in I hope nothing breaks for me. I am eyeballing the Steam Machine as a back up just in case.

>>107584942
so would you get a be quiet dark power 14?

>>107585030
Building a PC is dead. Prices will never go back down. Look at GPU prices before and after covid. It never really dipped back down to those prices.

its over

on the bright side, CPU chips are down lol

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>>107585104
>am5 is now more accessible with cpu prices going down
>am5 is now less accessible with ram prices going up

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So I should return this since MX-7 just came out?

I'm that retard that needed help with his U14S last thread. Props to the anons who helped educate me about offsets and alternatives it push come to shove.
Also 1 of 2 bc I'm a dirty phone posting fag who has no idea how to combine images on mobile.

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>>107585156
Also this
because this is my first AMD and I can't trust myself being an aging boomillennial

>>107585030
gaben will save pc gaming again

>>107585030
>I am eyeballing the Steam Machine as a back up just in case.
Last I heard they are gonna sell it with no ram so good luck

>>107585177
>>107585156
It's Amazon. Why not?

You should be aware that the NA-STPG1 is just like a tiny sheet of plastic, though. It's not even remotely worth $9. I know it's Noctua, but it's a pretty insultingly priced piece of shit.

Thermalright do one that's made of aluminium and just generally a nicer product for $8.50

>>107585187
Gabecube also has RAM inside of it

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>>107585040
Hard to say. In testing it's a very, very good unit with very little to complain about. The exploding be quiet! PSUs were largely limited to Straight Power/Dark Power Pro 13 products (the Dark Power 13 non-Pro didn't seem to have any issues and the Dark Power 12 Pro is well-regarded) so it should be a safe bet. be quiet! also has enough of a presence online that you could tweet or post to their Reddit page if you needed immediate attention with regards to the warranty/RMA process.
If cable length wasn't a concern, and I had to pick between the two, I'd go with the be quiet!.

>>107585219
>aluminium
Uh isn't that conductive?
Can I get model#?

>>107585225
I'll report back with my HX1000i Shift - supposedly no click or whine like the earlier 2025 models.

I saw 32GB 6000 CL30 on "sale" for £300 and thought wow that's a great deal and then was so disgusted

This market is doomed

>>107585233
Thermalright AM5 CPU Contact Frame V2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3UhR-iUZTs

>Isn't Aluminium conductive.
I mean, yeah. But like... It's not going to be contacting the pins or anything.

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these are the people that openAI needs to buy ram for to give them subsidized server time

>>107585233
Well yeah, that's sorta the point, to conduct heat.

>>107584779
>I don't think AI datacenters need that much RAM, SSDs and GPUs.
Then you have no idea what you are thinking about.
4.1k+ datacenters in USA alone
8k+ world wide
500+ will be built per year until 2030
Hardware cycle - every 3-5 years datacenters fully restock their hardware, shredding used ones in the process and harvesting the scrap for rare earths.
Current global output cannot match this demand, all of it will be consumed without fault. This alone would create massive issues but this is just one part of the problem.
Wafer manufacturers - RAM/NAND cartel were closing production lines for the past 3 years, including Q4 of 2025. Their arguments - "depressed low margin market, we overproduced, it is not profitable".
Datacenter boom started in 2023. They are cutting down since 2023.
They are not increasing their production.
RAM cycle - each generation has a period of shortage that rises prices, increases demand and thus leads to massive overproduction that floods the market and inevitably crashes it. That is no longer possible.
Because no matter how much they make AI will buy it all.
>it is a bubble
Funded by USA's finest printers. AI fiesta has reached the level of national arms race. They won't go down before USA does.
AI is buying the full yearly output of wafer manufacturers, every single wafer they are willing to sell AI will buy at a premium. Price isn't a concern, they will buy and pay upfront.
You will be competing for the same wafer with AI(USA printer), hardware OEM manufacturers like ASUS, MSI, NVIDIA & AMD and phone manufacturers, by the way Samsung(cartel) isn't willing to sell its wafers to Samsung(phone) because they can get a better deal with AI.
Good luck.

>>107585306
>They won't go down before USA does.
So like 2-3 years?

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>>107585306
It is already bursting

>>107585259
Will this be a problem to use with MSI MPG X870E and my Noctua U14S? I'm getting slammed with client calls and I gotta leave asap after work to haircut and hate to miss a delivery window for this Saturday to build.

I guess I'll also get the MX-7 and return the Noctua H2 paste if I get this
I want my paste to last forever like my old MX-4 on my last Intels

I don't play videogames, I have a T480s I mainly use for work and stream movies locally with jellyfin but it kinda overheats. I want a new windows/Linux laptop. What should I get?

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>>107585156
>So I should return this since MX-7 just came out?
If you can return that separately, yeah.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/arctic-mx-7-thermal-paste-in-the-test-the-price-breaker-also-becomes-an-icebreaker-in-the-top-10/
Igor's Lab found his niche as the thermal paste tester.

>>107585306
I still don't know the endgame for what all these datacenters is
My mind only imagines it's not for whatever they are saying it is, be that agi or better chatbots or whatever
I can only imagine they are going to be used to create a massive surveillance system that tracks every single human on the planet and can immediately dispatch AI drones and bots to arrest or kill them immediately on the spot
the only problem with that is not a single government is competent enough to carry it out

>>107585306
The problem with AI is software optimization and these dumbfucks are trying to fix this issue with hardware. It wasn't that long ago that these niggers got scared with deepseek. If that watershed moment happens again and people realize they can create their own models without them as proprietary middlemen and run it on a calculator locally, these people are giga fucked.

Seeing two bundle deals:
>Intel Core i7-14700K, ASUS Z790-Plus TUF Gaming WiFi D5, G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32GB Kit DDR5 6000, Computer Build Bundle
$599
>AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, ASUS B650E-E TUF Gaming WiFi AM5, G.Skill Flare X5 Series 32GB DDR5-6000 Kit, Computer Build Bundle
$679

My current system is a 8700k (lol) with 32GB DDR4. I was going to get a DDR4-compat mobo and an Intel CPU, but given the volatility in the tech market I figure I just want to buy once cry once. I'd have to get a new NVME for the OS and all but I'll do that afterwards. I'll be keeping my GPU (4070) but also new PSU and so on.

Alternative would be the B760 Asus TUF or something + 14700k which would be what, 300 for CPU plus 160 or something from amazon = 200 dollars cheaper

>>107585430
the amb bundle seems like it'll be out of stock soon

>>107585430
Don't buy the 14700K if you can't tune it (changing CPU AC/DC loadline & voltage regulator's LLC, and setting a light CPU undervolt).
Board manufacturers chose the easy/lazy way to set up the default settings for these chips, they'll run quite power inefficiently at stock settings even with the newest BIOS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI2x2_skwSs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9slwXKUwmnE

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>buy "Used - Like New" PSU from Amazon Resale
>pay $120 for a $240 PSU
>go to inspect it upon arrival
>PSU is in pristine condition, no dust or anything out of the ordinary
>most of the cables still in their straight-from-the-manufacturer condition
>3 sets of PCIE cables secured with rubber-bands instead of twist ties like all the other cables
>zip-ties, manuals, velcro straps missing
>12v-2x6 cable missing
Well, it was 50% off for a reason. Good thing a replacement cable only costs $30!

>>107585430
Buy that 9800X3D bundle before it goes OOS.
Don't forget to trash that 4070 for a Radeon card.

>>107585389
>>107585259
Done. Bought MX-7 and that Contact Frame.
I hope I don't regret the Thermaltake Contact Frame, I hope it doesn't mess with my Noctua or X870E

>>107585350
Irrelevant because USA directly funds them. The whole open trading thing is a meme in comparison. A thing with unlimited money cannot bust.
>>107585401
Making few people very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very rich. AI guys are BFFs with Cartel guys. They shake hands, go to dinners and laugh at american tax payer who covers their bills. This "shortage" is entirely manufactured, it wasn't sudden by any means. NVIDIA needed a new market, Cartel guys needed a new market, AI datacenters are that new market. Yesterday NVIDIA was raking in, now its Samsung's turn.
>>107585405
Are their programs well optimized? Is AGI possible? Do you think they care? lol, lmao. Even if legislator steps in and some gook goes to a one room apartment, nothing changes. He will come out in 5 years and get himself an nice executive chair in Samsung. For now we just wait out 2 years of the "expected shortage period" they drew to us and watch the weather. Money is still money so unless they went coo-coo and want world dominance or some other loony shit, this "shortage" shouldn't last more than that. Though the price hike will be staying with us until the end of the decade for above mentioned reasons.

>>107585521
Corsair it appears. I too visited their website lately.

>>107585535
AM5 doesn't need the contact frame, Intel CPUs needed it to prevent the IHS from warping.

>>107585441
Yeah, I have to decide pretty much tonight.

I won't have all the remaining parts (Case, Cooler, PSU, OS SSD), I'll buy them over the next few months but this feels like a circumstance where I shouldn't just sit and wait to have it all in one fell swoop. And looking at the [spoiler]reddit[/spoiler] thread I saw it in people are saying this bundle was about the same price beforehand, give or take.

>>107585511
I'm an advanced brainlet, so while I would be able to look up the bios shit (and I did update my bios on the current system) that definitely dissuades me from 14700k. I did see last thread people were saying that AMD runs hot, but apparently someone said AMD is hot idle but not as hot active and Intel is vice versa. Besides gaming the only intense shit I do is photoshop and substance painter and if my 2017 era CPU can handle that I'm sure AMD will be able to.

>>107585525
>Don't forget to trash that 4070 for a Radeon card.
See now you feel like a faux-shill trying to bamboozle me. I remembered getting this on /g/ when I asked about 4070 versus AMD's 2 years ago. It's very silly.

But yeah I went and locked it in and ordered it. Going to go drive and pick it up tomorrow unless they go "teehee we're out of stock".

>>107585545
It doesn't, but they're cheap and nice to have.

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>>107585430
>I was going to get a DDR4-compat mobo and an Intel CPU, but given the volatility in the tech market I figure I just want to buy once cry once
that's what i did earlier this year and look how well that turned out
lmao
nothing wrong with the setup or anything but it would've been wise to invest in DDR5
>>107585561
>See now you feel like a faux-shill trying to bamboozle me
it's nicotroon
don't worry about it

I'M GONNA SUCCUMB TO PANIC BUYING BECAUSE OF THIS MICRO CENTER BUNDLE
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>107585561
>I won't have all the remaining parts (Case, Cooler, PSU, OS SSD), I'll buy them over the next few months
You should still test that new CPU, motherboard, & memory while you can return it.
It doesn't need a fancy new PSU to check whether they're working.

First-time memory training can take up to 5~15 minutes, updating the board BIOS can improve memory stability.

>>107585538
>Is AGI possible?
I find it weird that they think transformers are now the solution to all issues. Not sure what to think of their agentic AI they keep pushing everywhere now.

>>107585538
>Are their programs well optimized? Is AGI possible? Do you think they care?
They will once normies realize its a glorified chatbot.

>>107585430
that ryzen bundle is kinda insane, it is painfully close to true old prices depending on CL of that memory

>>107585670

DDR5-5600

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remember when DDR3 prices were expensive? i still do

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Anons, is this little fella good enough to use as my secondary streaming PC?
>https://www.amazon.com/GMKtec-G10-Desktop-Computers-Display/dp/B0FBWST8TH/ref=sr_1_8_sspa?sr=8-8-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9tdGY

My old NUC just died (PBUH) and right now I'm heating the fuck out of my room using my main rig to stream and game simultaneously. I did the math on whether or not he can handle the encoding and I'm pretty sure he can but I'm also fucking retarded.

>>107585627
Yeah, I ran through the possible scenarios and there was only one where this would be a big regret I couldn't salvage from. And I realized since my mother wants to replace her laptop with a desktop once I switch to the new system I'll pass her my current one (swapping the GPU out). Also yeah that image is fucking prophetic to modern day 4chan, it's terrifying.

>>107585637
That was a concern for me, yeah. I had thought I'd just bank on the Original manufacturer's warranties, but I know that'd take longer to work through process wise compared to just bringing it back to microcenter.

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To buy a 9070 XT or not to buy a 9070 XT
My 6700 XT is mostly fine for what I'm already doing, but I'll likely go 4K instead of 1440p in the coming years
The thing is I haven't found a game that would justify it aside from maybe the upcoming Nioh 3, so that would be a purchase pretty much driven by the fear of discrete GPUs suddenly costing $9999 tomorrow
I suppose I can not care and Just Wait™ however long it takes, but it would be a bummer to have no display out in the event that my current GPU were to die
hmmm.......

>>107585857
When in doubt, you buy Radeon.

>fedex delivers package to the wrong fucking house
>pic is the "delivered photo"
>had to go up and down the street to fucking find it
>see package with my name on it
>have to knock on neighbor's door bell and tell them im taking it first because i'm black and they'll assume im stealing their package
being black is a struggle, fellas. wouldn't recommend it to anyone

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forgot pic
all delivery drivers are low iq

>>107585908
Why are you black?

>>107585908
>being black is a struggle
I hope you get well soon.

>>107585936
i'm afraid is a permanent illness

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>>107585908
Black don't crack

>can't ever get free shit because I'm paranoid so I put "blue house at the end of the shared driveway"
>>107585590
>>107585259
Also I will blame you anons if my 9800X3D gets fucked by this
Thankfully $10 so I'll mull over it or just risk using MX-7 without any sort of frame or such and freeball it with my Noctua cooler

does anyone know stuff about those x-rite colorimeters?

i was thinking of getting one of those i1display pro thingies to try calibrating a few monitors and i found like a really cheap used one but it's like an older model from 2013 or something and was wondering whether there is difference to newer ones or whether they degrade and become less accurate over time or something because everything else i've looked at was just way more expensive so the price has me scratching my head a little

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so I paid like $250 for this kit earlier this year.

>>107585994
https://www.google.com/search?q=dominatort+titanium+cl+30+6000+64gb&oq=dominatort+titanium+cl+30+6000+64gb&gs_lcrp=EgRlZGdlKgkIABBFGDkYnwUyCQgAEEUYORifBdIBCDgxMDlqMGoxqAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
i got these for 300

>>107585994
i'll give you $350 for it

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>>107585994
g.kill has just has the best heatspreader designs. should have bought those instead of picrel

>>107586011
>no rgb
trash

>>107586011
I feel like RAM heat spreaders are in general are all kinda awful.
About as close as you get to decent are Dominators, and even then they have fucking RGB out the ass.

>>107586006
I have a 32gb kit from my 7800x3D bundle, gonna probably use that in a second rig since I have a 9800x3D in the first one.

RAM will be more valuable than gold soon.

>regardless of what happens tsmc and asml will win
imagine creating the alien technology that literally fuels the present and future

>>107586016
my gskill has no rgb either, and all my fans (silent wings 4) have no rgb. all I want is a fast, quiet system that doesn't blind me while I play vidya or use apps.

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>>107586016
>no lgbt lights

K I N O
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>>107586033
picrel is still my favourite design.

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>>107586011
your picrel would look perfect on sapphire motherboards

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rgb haters hate this one little trick

>>107586069
>Paying extra for shit you don't want.

>>107586079
i want it, just not all the time. i am paying for options

>>107586069
sorry you need software for that. i don't like spyware on my system.

>>107586086
options to look gay and show your pride with lgbt lights?

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making your entire personality complaining about everything is pretty cringe teebeeaytch

>>107586016
every time I remember that we live in the world where shit with RGB has more performance that the same exact shit without RGB I start laughing

>>107586100
I'm not complaining about everything.
I'm complaining about RGB on RAM sticks.

gay lights for children. not something to be proud of having or using.

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>>107586141
so he is just acting as child when he is an adult. i've seen this one before...

>>107586141
based

>>107585857
A 9070xt will litterally double your FPS at any resolution, buuuut it's still up in the air how long it'll be supported after AMD cucked 7000 series out of new features due to switching to monolithic die from chiplets. UDNA will come out in like 18 months, and it'll have even better raytracing than RDNA4.

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Buy whatever you want if you can afford it. It's not my money :)

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>>107586160
>New toy's going to have better features
>New toy will be more expensive

>>107586033
Yes they are a meme. Bare sticks run cooler than most of those when you have a fan blowing air on them

Looking to upgrade my current storage, one SSD and one HDD:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9Bc48d/western-digital-green-240gb-25-solid-state-drive-wds240g2g0a
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MwW9TW
to
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/94Tp99/western-digital-blue-sa510-1-tb-25-solid-state-drive-wds100t3b0a
(WDBB8H0010BNC-WRSN, for some reason Bestbuy had a diffrent model number.)
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qkTZxr/western-digital-wd-blue-4-tb-35-5400-rpm-internal-hard-drive-wd40ezax
I haven't done anything like larger data transfers before, so i was wondering if it would be fine to get a 1TB usb drive and do it that way.
I want to know that the drives i'm going to get are prone to data loss/failing, and that the method i'm going to use will corrupt more data than i'm trying to transfer.

Can i use a single 12V-2x6+2 cable for my 9070 xt which needs 2x8 pin?
be quiet is dogshit and it only came with this and a pigtail one

PSU is be quiet Pure Power 13 M btw

>>107586287
the rec is always to use 2 cables

>>107586287
You can use the pigtail one without connecting the second pigtail and use both cables. It just looks like ass.

AW2725D for $500 or Samsung G6 for $525

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>>107586062
This is my favorite design.

>>107586357
dell is more likely to release firmware updates so i pick the alienware

>>107586287
I tried to warn you bro

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>>107586307
>>107586314
This is retarded do i really need to use both of these? be quiet are greedy revolting kikes that want me to buy 2 normal PCIE cables

>>107586404
you can see if anyone sells nice looking 3rd party cables that are compatible with the psu

>>107586214
UDNA will be the result of AMD consolidating their server and gaming architecture, so If anything, next gen AMD gaming GPU's will be cheaper or static in price while Nvidia becomes more expensive. UDNA might be to the Radeon division what zen was to the CPU division.

>ASRock mobo shit in OP
I have a b650 steel legend since it was the highest recommended board last November. Should I update bios? I haven't done it since getting it. Have a 7600x3d