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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 217, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, Vision (Compact), Antec C8
AVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500

>CPU
Budget: 9600X, 7600X, 7500F
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
AVOID Shittel

>COOLER
AIO: Best Value: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Premium: Lian Li GA II Lite, LCD: TRYX Panorama
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reported.

>RAM
Gaming: DDR5 2x16GB 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: NM790
Mid range: SN7100
Premium: SN850X
Flagship: SN8100

>GPU
1080p: RX 9060 XT 16GB, Poorfag Esports Gaming: Used GPU between $100-$250
1440p: RX 9070 XT, RX 9070, Budget: RX 9060 XT 16GB
4K:Used RTX 4090, RX 9070 XT
Workstation: Radeon AI PRO R9700, CUDA Mandatory: Used RTX 4090 or RTX 3090 ti
AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, evil anti-consumer company etc.
ALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM https://imgur.com/a/6XSNJ9b

>PSU
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
https://www.rtings.com/monitor

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2

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<shameless report edition>
question for all my /pcbg/ ARGB "expert" builders - i never used ARGB in a PC, and i want to use a couple of ARGB LED with my asus board and OpenRGB - by this I mean one, two, three, four, five, etc. LEDs, not a huge strip of them, I just want one each RGB that can change color depending on CPU/GPU/RAM/SSD temperatures so as to have a sort of idiot light display - is this actually even possible? which is the best DIY site to learn how to make my own?

>inb4 noob, i never thought i'd want to use any of this glowie faggotry but now i'm curious
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>>107663040
stop being gay. openrgb prob has a plugin for it. now gtfo with your faggot lights.
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LF7DpK
>Ryzen 7 7800X3D
>MSI MPG B650I EDGE WIFI Mini
>Kingston FURY Beast 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30
>GALAX GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 8 GB
>Lian Li A3-mATX
>Corsair SF850 850 W 80+ Platinum

Would you buy these (used) for $950? Is it a good deal?
New price seems to be about $1500
I'm planning to buy and then sell the 9800XD for 9600X and the 4060 for 9060 XT 16GB
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>>107663048
>stop being gay. openrgb prob has a plugin for it. now gtfo with your faggot lights.
this is truly an excretionary post, anon, and no amount of toilet paper will remove the last traces of it

>i called for the "expert" builders and i got .. (you)
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>>107663050
Yes
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>>107663048
>plugin
>faggot
sounds about right

this anon >>107663053 is a raging incel trying to hijack my very important technical question and i hope their next bowel movement is loose and unending
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>>107663053
ou are welcome and a marry christmas to the less fourtinate of your sociaty like the mentally disabled and people who struggle with their own gender and sexuallity.
>>107663050
would buy but i would keep the 7800x3d because it's an x3d
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>>107662999
look at all that dolphin porn
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>>107663050
Forgot to include a cooler master fan
>>107663060
How old are those parts? Most of them would still be pretty new and still in warranty right?
>>107663077
Wouldn't the 9060 XT bottleneck the X3D?
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>>107663103
You can't count on warranties with used parts.
A gpu cannot bottleneck a gpu, the cpu tells the gpu what to do.
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>>107663050
That'd be a good deal even if prices weren't fucked right now. I'd flip the 4060 ti to offset the cost of something better with more vram.
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>>107663103
>Wouldn't the 9060 XT bottleneck the X3D?
yeah prob all the time even. but almost any gpu would bottleneck the x3d the question is buy how much. i wouldn't toss away a cheap x3d cpu for anything else if you just want to gayme. like i don't see the problem with a gpu bottleneck. you won't have to upgrade the cpu in case you upgrade to a new gpu. you like want the maximum from your gpu don't you? a balanced system just means you have to upgrade both when you do a major upgrade like the gpu. buying a 7800x3d with a 4060ti 8gb was stupid but buying a 7800x3d system for 950 is not and upgrading it to a 16gb gpu.
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>>107662999
unused ram is wasted ram, i gues...
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>>107663126
well you can. if your gpu is below like 98% usage like in e sports games at low settings and low resolutions. your cpu is doing everything it (on like one, two or four cores that is) can but the gpu sits at 50%. but that is the nature of the games really. it would also be the case with a i3 2120 and a 5090 in any modern game. like full cpu usage and a gpu with nothing to do.
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>>107662971
the ssd i bought on black friday isnow 100 dollas more expensive
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>>107663180
so when are you selling it?
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>>107663182
i actually bought 2, but i need them so i'm not selling
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>>107663103
>>107663143
i have a 9060xt with a ryzen 5 9600x
is it a bad combo?
i don't know much about these things
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>>107663249
That's a great pairing.
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Do I have to take apart my PC to clean it? How are you supposed to use the air canister without blowing the dust further inside your PC?
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>>107663249
it's a perfectly fine combo since you prob bought it new. i just don't see a reason to downgrade a system just not to bottleneck something that is going to bottleneck any gpu really.
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>>107663103
>Wouldn't the 9060 XT bottleneck the X3D?
no.

>>107663143
>yeah prob all the time even.
No.

>>107663249
no
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>>107663268
contrarian
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>>107663273
>reading comprehension failure
ok
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ok
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>>107663288
not much reading to be done when you just write "no".
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Is the 4060 ti 8GB that bad? I'm also planning to upgrade mine. Looks like the 9060 XT 16 GB is a good upgrade? I have an intel cpu tho.
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>>107663306
correct answers to questions.
yes.
but contrarian somehow? no. so you or they, failed at reading
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>>107663320
There is not performance difference between 4060ti and 9060xt to justify the upgrade
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>>107663320
Looking at reviews the difference is 1 fps. Maybe your cpu is older than Alder Lake and holding you back?
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>>107663323
a bottleneck occurs when one component in a computer system (such as the cpu or gpu) can’t keep up with the others, limiting overall performance and preventing faster parts from reaching their full potential. i have a 7800 xt and a 7950x3d with its non‑x3d cores disabled (essentially turning it into a 7800x3d with a ~200 mhz boost). in cs2 at 1440p, i get around 500 fps with about 88% gpu usage at low settings. if you replaced my 7800 xt with a 9060 xt, which is roughly 20% slower, my cpu would not reach the maximum frame rate possible in this esports title. that would be a gpu bottleneck in a game many people play at similar settings. it’s not bad or unusual to have the gpu bottleneck the cpu — it's actually ideal in most games because it means you're getting the maximum performance out of your gpu. having a potential cpu bottleneck in cs2 at over 500 fps just shows that he is going to be gpu‑bottlenecked almost all the time. so i don’t see anything wrong with my original statement.
>>107663320
the 8gb of vram make it obsolete
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Beginning of the year i bought some stuff, not knowing much about anything. I got a i7-14700k as it seemed to me it was pretty much amongst the fastest there was. I then got 192GB of DDR5 (4x 48GB 5200MHz, runs at 4800MHz with 4 and 5200MHz with two sockets) because i thought i can run large LLMs with it. My GPU was a 4090 that i sold as soon as the 5090 was available.

The RAM isn't fast enough for large LLMs, i get 4 t/s or so. Smaller models run fast enough, particularly the ones i can run in the GPU are really fast.

Is there any other CPU for the LGA1700 socket that maybe has 4 memory channels, so i can get more throughput? I feel i wasted a lot of money by not buying the right hardware.
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>>107662998
I just to make fun of waitfags. but they have proved to be the winners. I am scared to wait until I need it to buy ram
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>>107662971
>still two power cables in three GPU power connectors
this gives me the ick
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>>107663375
No, consumer platforms with the exception of Alder Lake Atom and AMD AI MAX have 2 memory channels.
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>>107663320
9060xt 16gb is a sidegrade
4060ti 8gb has good performance but is held back by its 8gb vram



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