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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 217, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, Vision (Compact), Antec C8
AVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500

>CPU
Budget: 9600X, 7600X, 7500F
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
AVOID Shittel

>COOLER
AIO: Best Value: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Premium: Lian Li GA II Lite, LCD: TRYX Panorama
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reported.

>RAM
Gaming: DDR5 2x16GB 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: NM790
Mid range: SN7100
Premium: SN850X
Flagship: SN8100

>GPU
1080p: RX 9060 XT 16GB, Poorfag Esports Gaming: Used GPU between $100-$250
1440p: RX 9070 XT, RX 9070, Budget: RX 9060 XT 16GB
4K:Used RTX 4090, RX 9070 XT
Workstation: Radeon AI PRO R9700, CUDA Mandatory: Used RTX 4090 or RTX 3090 ti
AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, evil anti-consumer company etc.
ALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM https://imgur.com/a/6XSNJ9b

>PSU
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
https://www.rtings.com/monitor

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2

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<shameless report edition>
question for all my /pcbg/ ARGB "expert" builders - i never used ARGB in a PC, and i want to use a couple of ARGB LED with my asus board and OpenRGB - by this I mean one, two, three, four, five, etc. LEDs, not a huge strip of them, I just want one each RGB that can change color depending on CPU/GPU/RAM/SSD temperatures so as to have a sort of idiot light display - is this actually even possible? which is the best DIY site to learn how to make my own?

>inb4 noob, i never thought i'd want to use any of this glowie faggotry but now i'm curious
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>>107663040
stop being gay. openrgb prob has a plugin for it. now gtfo with your faggot lights.
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LF7DpK
>Ryzen 7 7800X3D
>MSI MPG B650I EDGE WIFI Mini
>Kingston FURY Beast 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30
>GALAX GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 8 GB
>Lian Li A3-mATX
>Corsair SF850 850 W 80+ Platinum

Would you buy these (used) for $950? Is it a good deal?
New price seems to be about $1500
I'm planning to buy and then sell the 9800XD for 9600X and the 4060 for 9060 XT 16GB
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>>107663048
>stop being gay. openrgb prob has a plugin for it. now gtfo with your faggot lights.
this is truly an excretionary post, anon, and no amount of toilet paper will remove the last traces of it

>i called for the "expert" builders and i got .. (you)
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>>107663050
Yes
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>>107663048
>plugin
>faggot
sounds about right

this anon >>107663053 is a raging incel trying to hijack my very important technical question and i hope their next bowel movement is loose and unending
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>>107663053
ou are welcome and a marry christmas to the less fourtinate of your sociaty like the mentally disabled and people who struggle with their own gender and sexuallity.
>>107663050
would buy but i would keep the 7800x3d because it's an x3d
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>>107662999
look at all that dolphin porn
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>>107663050
Forgot to include a cooler master fan
>>107663060
How old are those parts? Most of them would still be pretty new and still in warranty right?
>>107663077
Wouldn't the 9060 XT bottleneck the X3D?
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>>107663103
You can't count on warranties with used parts.
A gpu cannot bottleneck a gpu, the cpu tells the gpu what to do.
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>>107663050
That'd be a good deal even if prices weren't fucked right now. I'd flip the 4060 ti to offset the cost of something better with more vram.
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>>107663103
>Wouldn't the 9060 XT bottleneck the X3D?
yeah prob all the time even. but almost any gpu would bottleneck the x3d the question is buy how much. i wouldn't toss away a cheap x3d cpu for anything else if you just want to gayme. like i don't see the problem with a gpu bottleneck. you won't have to upgrade the cpu in case you upgrade to a new gpu. you like want the maximum from your gpu don't you? a balanced system just means you have to upgrade both when you do a major upgrade like the gpu. buying a 7800x3d with a 4060ti 8gb was stupid but buying a 7800x3d system for 950 is not and upgrading it to a 16gb gpu.
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>>107662999
unused ram is wasted ram, i gues...
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>>107663126
well you can. if your gpu is below like 98% usage like in e sports games at low settings and low resolutions. your cpu is doing everything it (on like one, two or four cores that is) can but the gpu sits at 50%. but that is the nature of the games really. it would also be the case with a i3 2120 and a 5090 in any modern game. like full cpu usage and a gpu with nothing to do.
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>>107662971
the ssd i bought on black friday isnow 100 dollas more expensive
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>>107663180
so when are you selling it?
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>>107663182
i actually bought 2, but i need them so i'm not selling
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>>107663103
>>107663143
i have a 9060xt with a ryzen 5 9600x
is it a bad combo?
i don't know much about these things
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>>107663249
That's a great pairing.
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Do I have to take apart my PC to clean it? How are you supposed to use the air canister without blowing the dust further inside your PC?
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>>107663249
it's a perfectly fine combo since you prob bought it new. i just don't see a reason to downgrade a system just not to bottleneck something that is going to bottleneck any gpu really.
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>>107663103
>Wouldn't the 9060 XT bottleneck the X3D?
no.

>>107663143
>yeah prob all the time even.
No.

>>107663249
no
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>>107663268
contrarian
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>>107663273
>reading comprehension failure
ok
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ok
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>>107663288
not much reading to be done when you just write "no".
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Is the 4060 ti 8GB that bad? I'm also planning to upgrade mine. Looks like the 9060 XT 16 GB is a good upgrade? I have an intel cpu tho.
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>>107663306
correct answers to questions.
yes.
but contrarian somehow? no. so you or they, failed at reading
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>>107663320
There is not performance difference between 4060ti and 9060xt to justify the upgrade
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>>107663320
Looking at reviews the difference is 1 fps. Maybe your cpu is older than Alder Lake and holding you back?
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>>107663323
a bottleneck occurs when one component in a computer system (such as the cpu or gpu) can’t keep up with the others, limiting overall performance and preventing faster parts from reaching their full potential. i have a 7800 xt and a 7950x3d with its non‑x3d cores disabled (essentially turning it into a 7800x3d with a ~200 mhz boost). in cs2 at 1440p, i get around 500 fps with about 88% gpu usage at low settings. if you replaced my 7800 xt with a 9060 xt, which is roughly 20% slower, my cpu would not reach the maximum frame rate possible in this esports title. that would be a gpu bottleneck in a game many people play at similar settings. it’s not bad or unusual to have the gpu bottleneck the cpu — it's actually ideal in most games because it means you're getting the maximum performance out of your gpu. having a potential cpu bottleneck in cs2 at over 500 fps just shows that he is going to be gpu‑bottlenecked almost all the time. so i don’t see anything wrong with my original statement.
>>107663320
the 8gb of vram make it obsolete
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Beginning of the year i bought some stuff, not knowing much about anything. I got a i7-14700k as it seemed to me it was pretty much amongst the fastest there was. I then got 192GB of DDR5 (4x 48GB 5200MHz, runs at 4800MHz with 4 and 5200MHz with two sockets) because i thought i can run large LLMs with it. My GPU was a 4090 that i sold as soon as the 5090 was available.

The RAM isn't fast enough for large LLMs, i get 4 t/s or so. Smaller models run fast enough, particularly the ones i can run in the GPU are really fast.

Is there any other CPU for the LGA1700 socket that maybe has 4 memory channels, so i can get more throughput? I feel i wasted a lot of money by not buying the right hardware.
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>>107662998
I just to make fun of waitfags. but they have proved to be the winners. I am scared to wait until I need it to buy ram
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>>107662971
>still two power cables in three GPU power connectors
this gives me the ick
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>>107663375
No, consumer platforms with the exception of Alder Lake Atom and AMD AI MAX have 2 memory channels.
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>>107663320
9060xt 16gb is a sidegrade
4060ti 8gb has good performance but is held back by its 8gb vram
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>>107663409
i keep hearing people saying stuff like this about the 9060xt
i just bought one to upgrade my 6600
please tell me i did good
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>>107663385
It's over then. I'm cooked.
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>>107663431
hell from something like a 6600 that's a decent uplift
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>>107663126
>>107663143
>>107663268
>>107663135
>>107663268
Thanks anons. One more thing, should I do some testing other than running a few games? Memtest, furmark or some shit like that?
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>>107663495
i would use prime95 on the cpu, furmark on the gpus and memory you probably won't have enough time to fully test but you can also run the prime95 mem test as well. with hwinfo for like monitoring of the temps and stuff.
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>>107663050
>shit motherboard
>shit gpu
>no ssd
It's still a good deal, sell the mobo and gpu and buy something better
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is the AW2725Q as cheap at (You)r place as it is here? it's pretty discounted right now

did they fix the random dying of it though? it went black and just doa'd or some shit, allegedly according to leddit post new batches have fixed it? idk

maybe worht a buy

trying to get dell to give a discount code again they changed their verificaiton now they are not approving me
its over
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>>107663381
Daisy chain for one of the connectors is fine
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>>107663533
>AW2725Q

> Dell US
$900
> Microcenter US
$800
> Best Buy US
$700
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>>107663533
https://geizhals.de/dell-alienware-27-4k-qd-oled-gaming-monitor-aw2725q-210-bqwv-a3474923.html
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>>107663550
>>107663546
still seem to have various issues I guess idk seems bad
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>>107663375
>I feel i wasted a lot of money by not buying the right hardware.
you earned money on the ram thou
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>>107662971
my new GPU has been put to sleep by boredom. i don't even play games. it's at a permanent 20C and wondering why it even exists
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>>107663658
F
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>>107663641
Only if i sell, and why should i sell if i want to run large LLMs?
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>>107663716
changing platforms should be cheap if there is anything else
if there is nothing else then you made money regardless
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Im biting the bullet on another PC tomorrow, here are my old PC specs:

OLD
>Ryzen 5
>Nvidia 3080 8GB
>16GB RAM

NEW
>Ryzen 7
>Nvidia 5080 or AMD 9070 XT
>32GB RAM

Purpose will be for playing Rust (game) at 4K, as i currently do, live in Australia, max budget is $4000 dollarydoos

Should i go the 9070 XT or the 5080, i prefer AMD, my last GPU before the 3080 was a Radeon 7970.

Also, anyone know how i can get a copy of the current version of Windows 10 (Enterprise) i dont want to run Windows 11, an AMD machine would be better for eventually moving to Linux, but i need Windows to play Rust

Anywhere to buy Windows 10 enterprise key and what version to run would be appreciated too
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>>107663753
>>Nvidia 3080 8GB
>>107624420
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>>107663753
>Ryzen 5
>Ryzen 7
theres a monumental difference between a ryzen 5 1600 and ryzen 5 5600x3d anon. just like there's a difference between a ryzen 7 5800x and ryzen 7 9800x3d
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>>107663753
gotta buy 9800x3d for that cpu limited slop or something atleast
just run win 11 lol
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>>107663760
Thanks fren

>>107663779
I had a 5600x3d im pretty sure

>>107663787
Might have to
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>>107663753
Don't buy a 1000 dollar 5080 just to play rust holy shit. 9070 xt
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>>107660163
>should forget about the 5.25 drive bay.
i know but i dont want to, i like optical media and I collect music
also, again, that case is nearly $300 - i dont want to spend more than $100 i cant justify it



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