>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use casesState BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8>CPUGaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D, 9800X3D-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500FWorkstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand*Prices have increased for LGA 1700 processors, only worth considering if discounted or if reusing DDR4. New DDR5 builds should be AM5 or LGA1851>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67TIM: MX-6, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet*Most listings online are not actually 7950>RAMDDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)>SSD (Keep firmware updated)Budget: SN7100, NM790High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)Premium: SN8100https://borecraft.com/>GPUBudget: Arc B580, 9060xt-Used: 2080, 2080ti*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080pMidrange: 9060XT 16GB, 5060ti 16GB, 5070-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)4k : 5070ti, 9070xt-Native/High-end: 5090>PSUBuying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITOR1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X71440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED)4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)
>News & RumorsMemory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027RTX 50 Super, 2026 launch? Potentially cancelled, likely q3 if still being releasedNova Lake 2026Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2" geekbench leaked, -0.5% ST and +2% MT in GB6AMD Redstone announced, RDNA4 exclusive, [YouTube] Introducing AMD FSR "Redstone" - ML-Enhanced Performance and Immersion (embed) [Embed]Micron consumer memory and storage (Crucial) is no more>PSU Reviewshttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplieshttps://www.lttlabs.com/https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-suppliesFor tier-list enjoyers:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/>Storage Reviewshttps://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSDhttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews>Monitor Hunterhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/>Other helpful LinksMobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PCGerman autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.Pic:>>107669259Previous:>>107667653
>Nvidia GeForce Now’s Time Limit Will Stop Gamers After 100 Hours Each MonthGotta love Nvidia
>>107673072play at 1440p @ 60fps+ with vrr. 1080p is just not it.
Which would be the better choice?>Play on 1440p 60fps+or>Play on 1080p 100fps+
>>1076731181440p DLSS 120fps.
>>107673118spend a little more and get you a decent GPU
I spent my day yesterday putting together my new build and even troubleshot the most obvious issues. Then I realized I could hear it. The thing is idling louder than my old PC sounded under load. I’ve messed with some of the curves despite never having done that before and got a tiny bit of improvement but it’s still a very apparent constant sound. The default curves started at 50%.I’ve got 3 Thermalright c212c’s daisychained, the fans that come on a Fractal North, and my cooler is a Peerless Assassin 120 Digital. How would I go about seeing my next course of action? Unplugging each set and seeing which one makes the most noise?
>>107673118slow games on the 1440p60 monitor and fast games on the 1080p100
I think I'm actually going insane.everytime I move my wired mouse I can hear a faint high pitched noise coming from my speakers.
>>107673141>Unplugging each set and seeing which one makes the most noise?yes do thati heard those thermalrights have rattling issues on some of them so hopefully its not that. if its just noisy, then you'd have to learn to live with it or drop some cash on another fan
>Redditor buys cheap Microcenter branded 1050w PSU because he only looked at recommended wattage>Wonders why it blows up his 600w GPU (playing Wuwa of course)
>>107673144Used to get this on my laptop.I just assume it's coil whine or something. I think it's normal.
>>107673159It was just so jarring I was expecting a similar noise level to my old pc and this is comparatively a plane taking off. The old pc had 2 beQuiet silent wings 2’s, a FUMA Scythe 2, and the single fan that comes on a Phanteks P350x.
>>107673141>ThermalrightAdded you to the list
>>107673198are you using an x3d cpu too? those have pretty drastic temperature spikes compared to old intel cpus and those spikes will greatly affect how quickly the fans ramp up and down
Currently I've got>B450 tomahawk m>32gb 3200cl16>r5 3600>5060TI 16gbThe ram and gpu are fairly recent, I got them on the cheap from a colleague that was upgrading. Considering that I've got an actually decent gpu now, I'm considering upgrading the cpu as well. The 5600 is currently going for about 120 euro here, the 5600x for 140, 5700x for 150, and 5800x for 175. What would you guys recommend I go up to? The 5600 and 5600x are pretty much the same if I've understood correctly, so not much point in paying 20 more for the X. Whereas the 5700x and the 5800x are also pretty close to eachother. So at first glance I'd think it was between the 5600 and 5700x.
>>107668681>because I hear the Radeon drivers are rock solid nowWe all need to make our own experiences. I will never buy an AMD graphics card again
>>107673214i hope a christmas miracle happen in your life and you find a real job, based schizo
>>1076731184k screen + modulate your experience from there>>107673170but 3.1 certified and 1050w>>107673229>responding to bait a thread laternigga >>107673232I need that luck not the schizo ngl
>>107673133>>107673148Realistically it would get you 100 fps at bestAlso if you apply DLSS to 1080p you can possibly get 144hz>>107673140This is the stats of the best GPU I could get :(>>107673142I can only get one bro and play native. I don't know if I want to play some games reduced to 1080 while on a 1440 monitor.
>>107673243get the high refresh 1440p monitor and use upscaling where necessary to hit high framerates. 1440p is useful even outside of games so it'd be silly to get the 1080p just because your gpu can't run native 1440p above 60hz in games
>>107673238>pay 4k premium to play 1080p and 1440p>probably compromise on refresh rate????
>>107673214Fuuuuck…Guess I gotta spend a little bit on a new cooler and fans.>>107673216Yeah. 9800x3d. But even at idle the pc is pretty loud.
>>107673144You might be insane but should start using external DAC anyway.
>>107673222The six cores get saturated easily. The 8 core 5700X and 5800X are 100% identical, get the cheaper X. The non X 5700 is a scam cpu, make sure you don't get that one.
>>107673264>use 4k res every day outside of games on desktop which most likely is more usage than pure gaming>4k 240hz is the sweetspot(tm) currently
>>107673238>but 3.1 certified and 1050wDoesn't mean it's 'good'. You get 12V-2x6 instead of 12VHPWR, able to handle 100% power spikes better and higher efficieny I believe. Nothing about most of the internals as we saw with the cheap Chinesium cables.
>>107673141Lower the fan curve to minimal and acceptable noise under load. If temps are good then leave it alone. You may not need a million rpm to cool. Some setups can even do zero rpm at idle.
>>107673118If you can run 1080p, you can run 4K.So 4K 100+ FPS
>>107673266>But even at idle the pc is pretty loud.If you really can't lower the curve lower then dump those fans for something else
>>107673367That’s probably gonna be the move. I can at least return them, I think. I’ll buy new fans/cooler, make sure they work, then ship out the returns. I just have to make sure it’s also not the included case fans being loud as fuck, too.Like I said in a post before I had beQuiet fans and a FUMA Scythe 2 on the old build, but I built that almost 7 years ago and I’m not sure how the quality on those are these days. I don’t plan on running this PC like a rented mule but I do want to enjoy my 5080/9800X3D. Any recommendations?
>>107673395case fans are pretty tricky. i'm using lian li's for the aesthetics currently and have had a pretty shitty experience with them starting to rattle so i can only recommend avoiding them. i've also had a pretty good experience with scythe's fans, particularly their kaze flex for use as case intake fansfor high pressure applications like heatsinks and radiators, i'd say that noctua's a12x25 G2s are the current best but they aren't cheap. I'm not too sure about bequiet's fans as i've never used any of them
>computer parts are cool>games fucking suck now thoughbros...
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I WILL be buying the 6090 and I WILL be burning my house down day 1
>>107673480>Parents still have the whole set of those cups>I’d drink out of them growing up Explains a lot.
>>107672993>Buy a 2tb Samsung SSD just to feel like a rich asshole this Christmas>Shove it in PC today>Running at 6500mb readI mean I'm not complaining, it's still fast and more storage than I need, but I don't get why my other drives reach the advertise speed and this one can't. Am I doing something wrong?
>>107673536Did you install their driver?
>>107673222Probably not worth upgrading to a 5600 from a 3600. Find a good deal on an X3D used
>>107673536drives can get slightly bottlenecked if you connect them to a chipset m.2. slot
>>107673590Doublechecked my manual. Yeah, this is the problem. Oh well. 6500/7500 is good enough.
>>107673576>Find a good deal on an X3D usedHe won't, in current year. Homie should just go with the 5700X.
Asking again itt because I'm partially retarded and need someone to walk me through this>>107670150
Undervolted 5070ti. Fps tiny bit higher but thermals are lower. Nice I guess?
>>107672993There's something in a fugly PC like this that scream SOVL
>>107673269>The non X 5700 is a scam cpu, make sure you don't get that one.How so? I've not really seen that one being sold much here, so I hadn't even looked at it yet. >>107673576>>107673660>He won't, in current year.Yeah, getting a deal on a used X3D isn't really happening here it seems. The 5500x3d and 5600x3d practically don't exist, and the 5700x3d goes for 350 on a good day, 400 generally
>>107673768has like half the cache or smth. don't buy it. unless it's like really really cheap and for a non gaming system.
>AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D2 Real, Coming this CESwhere are all the FAGGOTS that told me it was fake and was never going to happen and was too expensive to exist and was pointless and was retarded to even ask for WHERE ARE YOU COWARDS EXPLAIN YOURSELVES YOU FAGGOTS
>>107673814no refunds
>>107673789From a quick look it doesn't seem much cheaper here, if at all. So I guess that means between the 5600 and 5700x, the 5700x is the way to go since it's only 30 eurobucks more?
How did I do?Got tired of my lead acid battery UPSs needing new batteries every few years.
>reddit thinking asus is a wholesome chungus that will save pc gaming>they unironically think they're not going to just put out $700 ram to try to get a piece of the pie they're missing out onHow are they always this stupid
>>107673860yes
>>107674019>Implying it's not just astrotrufing via Reddit "memes"
>>107673938Considering how retarded the pricing is on lithium ion UPSs from respected manufacturers (Eaton/APC/Vertiv/etc) you did as good as you could.Still rediculous that lithium UPSs from "good" brands are $1000+.
>>107674019more supply will always lower pricesobviously it's not going to be sub 150 anymore but still
I miss how smooth single core CPUs were. Any multicore is inherently stuttery
>>107674062just play old games nigga
>>107674062This is pure delusionSingle core CPUs were the age of mechanical boot drives with tons of latency from your storage device, let alone the CPU.
>>107674076lies, old games were loaded from disk and the fit entirely in ram>>107674068still stuttery because the OS is multithreaded
>>107674062if you want better locking then go contribute to CPU development
>>107674084Then go buy ancient hardware for absurd prices to play outdated boring shit and leave the rest of us alone. I'm sure you'll find something to doom post about at that point anyway since you're just that kind of faggot.
>>107674099no im not going to accept that things should be bad
>>107674062get a better pc
>Cooler Master G600 GoldIs it a good deal?
>>107674122not possible. nobody sells new single core x86-64 cpus
>>107674062modern 25h2 is optimized for multicores. single core is not smooth.
GUYS IM GONNA BUY THIS EVEN THO I ALREADY HAVE A 4K MINILED I JUST WANNA CONSOOM OLED LAST CHANCE TO CHANGE MY MIND AIEEEEEEEEEEE
>>107674019Retards fucking WORSHIP the Taiwanese PC cartel.Even here there are a few that adamantly assert that can do no wrong, and even when they do it's not their fault.>>107674054The supply is constrained at the fab level, before it ever reaches Asus' hands
>>1076731181440p 60
>>107674163consume oled. 330hz is really smooth.
>>107674084If the OS being multithreaded is the problem, then the issue isn't "multicore" CPUs it's scheduling latency.A single-core CPU running a modern multithreaded OS would be a slideshow because it has to context-switch 1,000x more often on a single pipeline. If you want that analog smoothness, you're actually looking for low DPC latency, not fewer cores.Have you ever actually run a LatencyMon test? It'll show you exactly which driver is 'stuttering' your OS, and it’s usually just a bad Wi-Fi driver, not the CPU architecture.
>>107674134you can buy a new i3 or smth. and just disable all cores but one.
11th gen intel is the last stutter free CPU generation
>>107674019Asus is one of those few companies which have insane amounts of undeserved fanboyism IMOThey make good extreme overclocking mbs and gpus but everything else they make are dumpster fires
>>107674265I was thinking of getting a 11900k for OCing fun but every launch review of that chip reminds of how crap it was compared to the 10900k that kills any motivation I had to buy one
>>107674062you can convert any modern cpu to a single core by flipping a single setting in bios, nobody's stopping you from doing that.
>>107674019>>107674275>>107674047>>107674054slowpoke.gif
>>1076742659800x3d proves this whole shit wrong. its literally the fastest consumer cpu for gaming. you are least likely to get stutter on a single ccd where all the cores share the same fat 100mb cache.
>>107674324reading between the lines, they didnt say they arent becoming a memory ODM like gskill or kingstonin the first place, expecting them to compete on equal footing against sk hynix, micron and samsung is preposterous
>>107672993>invest in a noctua air cooler>put a fatass anime girl statue at the front of the case to block the air intake???
>>107674374Don't forget leaving the protective film on. Retards and anime are like peanut butter and jelly.
