>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use casesState BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8>CPUGaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500FWorkstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand *Prices have increased for LGA 1700 processors, only worth considering if discounted or if reusing DDR4. New DDR5 builds should be AM5 or LGA1851>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67TIM: MX-7, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet*Most listings online are not actually 7950>RAMDDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700) Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)>SSD (Keep firmware updated)Budget: SN7100, NM790High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)Premium: SN8100https://borecraft.com/>GPUBudget: Arc B580, 9060xt-Used: 2080, 2080ti*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080pMidrange: 5060ti 16GB, 5070-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)4k : 5070ti, 9070xt-Native/High-end: 5090>PSUBuying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITOR1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X71440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED)4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)
>News & RumorsMemory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027RTX 50 Super, 2026 launch? Potentially cancelled, likely q3 if still being releasedNova Lake 2026Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"Micron consumer memory and storage (Crucial) is no moreNvidia reducing production of 50 series gpus next year (https://overclock3d.net/news/gpu-displays/nvidia-plans-heavy-cuts-to-gpu-supply-in-early-2026/)>PSU Reviewshttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplieshttps://www.lttlabs.com/https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-suppliesFor tier-list enjoyers:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/>Storage Reviews https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSDhttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews>Monitor Hunter https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/ >Other helpful LinksMobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PCGerman autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.Pic:Previous:>>107672993
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The RAM crisis will be over just in time for me to buy a new system in 2028
>>107676820OpenAI have bought 40% of all DRAM until 2029 though
>>107676820I really doubt it anon. The only reason there is speculation about 2028 is because late 2027 there are supposed to be some new DRAM Fabs come online, but at this pace unless the AI bubble collapses, there is just as much chance that once those fabs DO open up, all of their production will go towards AI data centers, not consumer RAMCompanies aren't going to leave money on the table just to satisfy gamers. Sadly enough,t he prices we see TODAY could look cheap in 4 years.
thanks guys for answering my PSU questionhere’s a cat
>>107676820Maybe?I think it's more likely that DDR6 will come out and be exclusively for AI shit whilst DDR5 comes down in price, but is now expensive because it's limited production.
>>107676882That will eventually happen, but there will be a significant period of time where both DDR5 and 6 are being produced, and all bought by AI datacenters.
>>107676862>there is just as much chance that once those fabs DO open up, all of their production will go towards AI data centers, not consumer RAMYep. We'll probably see DDR6 late next year and the consoomer market won't get some until a year later.All depends on how much Trump wants to prop up the AI market to beat Chyna
Does anyone use Steam Link, not the old hardware but just streaming from a PC to like a FireTV or something with the app? I have it setup, and it generally works well, but there's occasional disconnects or poor streaming quality despite everything being butter smooth on the PC itself. I assume it's the shitty ISP router. Is there a best in class router for this?
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So you are all the PC gamer elite from the internet, pals
>>107676924I'm better than at least 20% of the people that play Rainbow Six Siege.
>>107676889I'm hoping (more like coping) that AI datacenters (as we know them now) will either fail miserably within the next few years, or will take enough strides forward that DDR5 will be more or less obsolete to their needs.And they will be sitting on a shitload of DDR5 that they no longer need and want to make back some money on it
>>107676838sauce? kidding but not producing ram that would otherwise sell at a decent price would be leaving money on the table. the question is more about the practicalities of fab construction and roi. having said that, how the cartel will handle supply and pricing is a big question mark, and it's assured that pricing will not favor the consumer. but i can guarantee you that manufacturers would like to be selling higher volume than they are now
nvidia rtx 3070 to 9070 xt worth it if i'm a 1080p guy? my card is starting to fall behind in heavily modded skyrim playlists and some modern games. main reason i'm considering it now is because gpu prices may go apeshit soon, but i'm also kinda waiting for my tax refund.as long as it isn't over $700 i won't cry. i live in the us
My itx motherboard has a separate m.2 slot on the back without a heatsinkDo I need a heatsink if I want to install another m.2 to use for a linux drive
>>107676988700 before taxes*
>>107676862why not both?
>>107676988Question answered in the real thread>>107677000>>107677000>>107677000
>>107676951we cope together
>>107676965Production is going up but why would the Taiwanese cartels sell to the consumer market when OpenAI alone are willing to buy 40 fucking per cent for double the price AND it's a guaranteed sale/contract? Taiwan Cartels don't give a shit as long as somebody is buying.>>107676991Probably not but heatsinks are really cheap if you're concerned
>>1076769889070xt is only worth it if you get a 1440p monitor to go with it. Luckily they are pretty cheap now for a decent IPS one.
>>107676998Because why would you sell a consumer kit for $500 when you could sell it to an AI datacenter for $2,000?
>>107676988just make sure its either powercolor, xfx or sapphirealso doublecheck it doesnt have the housifre connector( i think asstock taichi and sapphire nitro only have it this time)
>>107676951>I'm hoping (more like coping) that AI datacenters (as we know them now) will either fail miserably within the next few yearsThey're too big to fail now as a large part of the US economy relies on the constant growth of them. Half will sit doing fuck all for years as there isn't enough water and power but that doesn't matter when the tax payer funded bailouts come.
>>107676988>because gpu prices may go apeshit soonFOMO isn't a good reason to buy. Also 1080p is garbage these days because you can get a decent HDR 1440p monitor for under $250. Personally I wouldn't buy a 9700 XT in general, people who are looking at buying a $600 shouldn't be cheaping out
This is what happens everytime I try and install literally any driver version on my brand new 5070. Did I get a DOA card?!PLS HELP
>>107677057Fuck off you nasally voiced autist
>>107677057no one cares troon
How locked in to a certain resolution am I based on the components I choose for my build?Ideally I'd like to build for 1440p and have my games run at that with a good framerate. But if on some games performance/framerate suffers at 1440p would I still have the option to play at 1080p (either through downscaling, or by having a second native 1080p monitor)?
>>107677076You know almost all games have a resolution setting you can change?
It's been two months since BF6 came out and this still keeps happening on Nvidia gpus and Nvidia gpus only. Gamer's aren't sure what the issue is but suspect Nvidia's poor drivers.
looking for a good 3440x1440p 34" ultrawide monitor. my only requirements are minimalistic looks (no lights, no fancy stand, no stupid features), a high refresh rate (120hz or more), a decent non-ghosting panel (no va), and freesync. what options do i have? are there any i should avoid? i want to get a bigger one with a higher resolution, but i already have a vertical 27" 1440p 60hz ips screen that i am going to use as a second monitor. i want to avoid scaling and i just like the uniform look when everything has the same ppi.
>>107677025Because what if you could sell both the $2000 kit and the $500 kit? It's not an either or proposition if you have the capacity. Obviously enterprise will be served first but that doesn't mean it's the only segment that can be served
Fellas.AliExpress RAM?
>>107677116Don't
>>107677109Again, you're missing the point here.If I can produce 100,000 units, and there is a consumer market for 10,000 of them per year, and an AI datacenter market for them for 150,000 units per year.I'm going to sell all 100,000 units I can make to the AI datacenter, and i'd be fucking retarded to do anything else.
I want a RTX pro 6000 so bad. It’ll kick my AI video slop into high gear.
>>107677109>Because what if you could sell both the $2000 kit and the $500 kit?If you only have one kit, which price would you rather sell at?>if you have the capacityAnd they don't have the capacity to meet the demand.>but that doesn't mean it's the only segment that can be servedIt isn't, but there's also high demand in the consumer market from AI companies that aren't as big, people training their own model or just increased demand due to FOMO.These companies aren't your friend; they exist to make money.
>EVGA 500W white PSU, don't know manufacture date (p/n 100-w1-0500, so '14-'17)>Need 24-pin to 8-pin adapter for motherboardHow badly did I fuck up? I probably shouldn't have cheaped out on the PSU, since I've heard that can take your whole setup along with it when it commits seppuku.Is the adapter a fire hazard like those sata adapters used for underpowered PSUs are?
>>107677076>if on some games performance/framerate suffers at 1440pFor modern games, you use DLSS if you have Nvidia or pray optiscaler works after fiddling with it if you have AMD. The only reason you'd want to use a lower resolution is if you're playing some super old game and it has problems with high res UI scaling or something. I have a generation old midrange card and I easily play at full 4K if a game is too old for DLSS
>>107677057>t
so done with these fucking driver issues on my rx 9070. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the NVIdiots ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to a 5070 TI fuck it idc anymore.
>>107677057
>>107677116You will regret it and will end up using more money in the end.
Why are competitive gamers who play games like Overwatch avoiding the RTX 50 series? Probably because they know it has unacceptable frame drops and 1% lows that make it non-viable for competitive play.
Is it more optimal to have air intake from the side or straight from the front?
>>107677173Lol so they still didn't fix the Blackwell driver issues?
>>107677122>only enough capacity for data centersObviously the RAM will go to them. But the execs aren't stupid, and if they're building out more capacity, they'll try to maximize profits, which includes selling to consumers. There have been some oversupply problems with DRM in the past, so the increased capacity may very well be a conservative estimate against predicted demand, meaning the consumer gets fucked
>>107677194It's being caused by AMD CPUs. The 9800X3D in particular seems to be some sort of sabotage from AMD if people run them with Nvidia cards.Intel benchmarks don't show that issue.
>>107677135>they don't have the capacityNot currently, but more fabs will come online, as regulators will hit the producers again for collusion and price fixing if they don't.>These companies aren't your friend; they exist to make money.Correct, which is why they want to supply the consumer as well.
>>107677185No idea, I just have a 140mm fan right on top of the GPU and 2 120mm exhaust fans going out the top. It was a massive pain in the ass to find a CPU cooler that didn't fuck up my directional airflow. I'm using a case I bought about 10 years ago because I still need 3.5' bays and 5.25' bays.
so done with these fucking melting issues on my 5090. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones when my cable melted and whole pc caught on fire, I have to build a whole new pc. im suing nvidia and building an all amd pc with the settlement money fuck it idc anymore
Is it possible to oc 5600 ram to 6000?if yes how much work is it going to be and can you permanently damage your hardware?
>>107677209>as regulators will hit the producers again for collusion and price fixing if they don't.Kek good one anon.>Correct, which is why they want to supply the consumer as well.Why would they sell to consumers when they can sell the exact same stuff to AI companies for 4x the price and why can't you grasp that concept?>>107677185Front as the side will hit the side panel and cause a small vortex
>>107677199>which includes selling to consumersAgain, ONLY IF they can fulfil AI datacenter demands first, which there is ZERO indication that's changing anytime soon.
i hear after the microcode updates the intel ultras are not dogshit compared to the 14000s, is this actually true? the L3 cache of the 285K is attractive, but ultimately I pause since it's a dead socket and waiting for the new intels is tempting, but I honestly think ram will be even more fucked by that point in time.Thoughts? inb4 AMD
My boyfriend wants a pc, how much do I need?
If I'm using a riser cable to connect my GPU, do the mobo's fins or whatever even matter for keeping my GPU cool?
>>107677258make an onlyfans because that is how much you are going to need>>107677245am4 spoiled us. never going to buy into a platform that won't let me upgrade my cpu without keeping the motherboard.
>>107677268gross, what's your problem?
>>107677258Entry-level is $1000-1500Mid-range is $1500-3000High-end is $3000-5000.
>>107677262I already answered you. Stop spamming.
WOW I LOVE AMD!!! THE WORLDS MOST POWERFUL COMPUTER POWERED BY THE ALL AMD!!! WHOLE WORLDS COMPUTING POWER GONE WITHOUT AMD AND RADEON WOW!!!!!
>>107677245Still overall kind of underwhelming for gaymes if you were upgrading from raptor lake, otherwise they're great.
>>107677283have you taken RAM prices into account?
>>107677294>words words wordstldr
>>107677271have you seen the ram, ssd and gpu prices? you can get a used car for that. then you have to make sure to buy a good high quality psu with load balancing or your pc burns down your house. then you got amd's x3d cpus that are only available at inflated prices and a good high quality motherboard. it's easier to whore yourself out instead of trying to build a cheap pc that doesn't suck. also there are no females on 4chan so you are fake and gay.
Henlo /pcbg/Check my new build9800x3d6000mhz 30cl 32gbrog 3080 (recycled)TT Tower 300MSI b850m mortarBe Quiet 420mm AIOFans are 140mm squama geo fans
>>107677300Yes, previously I would've said Entry level is $700-1200, midrange is $1200-2250, and highend is $2250+.
>>107677310toaster style
>>107677310Sad phone poster noises
>>107677310Upgrading to a 9800x3d for just a 3080 is the stupidest shit I've seen in a while in these threads. Unless you plan on replacing it soon then fine ig.
>>107677318>>107677310Open up your image to edit it, then "save as", that should lock the orientation data.
>>107677312for an high end gpu alone you have to spend like 3k
>>107677310you are baking your GPU
>>107677331No you dont
>>107677308WOW I LOVE AMD!!! THE AMD POWER ALL MODERN INFRASTRUCTURES AND TECHNOLOGIES!!! WHOLE WORLD COLLAPSE WITH NO AMD AND RADEON WOW!!!!!
>>107677149Bwo, like what kind of set up needs 500w in 2025 almost 2026... should have bought 1000w minimum I bought a 750w myself and I feel like I fucked up
>>107677240https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRAM_price_fixing_scandal>when they can sell the exact same stuff to AI companiesAgain, supply could be enough to sell to both. DRAM fabrication isn't nearly as concentrated as cutting edge CPU and GPU fabrication. There are multiple players; it's not a situation where only one company can produce DRAM. The only reason that TSMC can get away with sky high prices is that they're the only game in town and regulators recognize that. If the DRAM players don't compete with each other, there will be regulatory action from the EU at the very least and likely from the USA as well considering how important Nvidia is.
>>107677319Upgrading next cycle, but actually im seeing big FPS improvements in D4 and BF6 and cyberpunk and yes I play all 3 of those games >>107677325Based thanks anon testing now
>>107677331Shut the fuck up.A 5080 is still a high-end GPU at $1000. Just because it's not a $3000 5090 doesn't make it NOT a high-end GPU.
Answer me faggots
>>107677363No, as an adult man, you should NOT play with dolls.
>>107677341maybe that is his intention. i just don't get those cases, but i also don't get why someone would put his pc on his desk. like, are the cables not long enough or smth? >>107677347yes you do. i checked how much a 5090 costs.>>107677360no it's not when the 5090 exists. the 5080 is basically a 70 class gpu now. while the 70 is a 60 class gpu. >>107677363no.
>>107677149>500W in almost 2026u wut m8?
>>107676991> Do I need a heatsinkYes, NVMe require a heatsink or they will overheat, throttle their bandwidth drastically and degrade faster. Just install some aftermarket heatsink.
>>107677375>no it's not when the 5090 exists. the 5080 is basically a 70 class gpu now. while the 70 is a 60 class gpu.Sorry, but you don't get to arbtirarily dictate this.High-end has basically always meant the two highest-end SKUs in the product lineup.
>>107677375What games can you run on 5090, but not 5080 with maxed settings?
>>107677116SCAMMED.COM
>Build a PC.>High performance parts.>Looks... Kinda mid.How do I fix this?
>>107677097The last game update fixed it. Don't have another metly with your shitty GPU :3
I am beyond stoked, I cut the coil whine coming out of my PC by like 80% just by reseating my GPU, My ram, and all my cables in order to clean it. The whine used to be obnoxious, to the point headphones were mandatory, even when capped at 60fps, but now I have to strain to hear the whine in a quiet room with my frame-rate uncapped. I think the main culprit was my motherboard, because I noticed the 24 pin cable sunk about a fingernail's depth while I attempted to remove it. Maybe the myth that coil whine goes away with time is actually people fixing the problem on their own by doing maintenance?
>a 9800x3d in my country costs the same as my GPU what the helly
>107677223oh no no no AMD sars...
>Meshify 3 only supports up to 349mm GPUs and 280mm AIOs but is otherwise an excellent caseI just bought a short (289mm) GPU and don't plan on upgrading for several years.I should be good, right? I just want a good case with good preinstalled fans.
>>107677300Those ARE the RAM prices, kek
>>107677389remove RGB lights
>>107677357Won't happen again as they'll cite national security again China.>Again, supply could be enough to sell to both. DRAM fabrication isn't nearly as concentrated as cutting edge CPU and GPU fabrication.But it isn't. And good luck convincing companies to spend billions opening their own fabs.>If the DRAM players don't compete with each other, there will be regulatory action from the EU at the very least and likely from the USA as well considering how important Nvidia is.Money literally doesn't matter when the AI bubble is propped up by the US government because it's a new Cold War versus China.
>>107677389get a cooler case!
>>107677407No RGB.
>>107677415Cum pc
>>107677331Here is my quick and dirty microcenter "high-end" build.Obviously you can go higher end, but this will get you 240hz 1440p or 144hz 4k gaming if you're fine with DLSS.
>>107677384>>107677385>High-end has basically always meant the two highest-end SKUs in the product lineup.not when the charts look like this. like it's not even close.>>107677415looks very lgbt+ friendly. what are your pronouns so i can respect them?
>>107677403Yes
I have 128GB of RAM
>>107677389How can we tell without a picture??
>>107677310You don't need a 420 rad for an 8-core, a 360 is more than enough.
>>107677434I'll give you $10,200 for it.
>>107677435Antarctica PC
>107677400>One specific shitty model of 9070 XT>Probably was user error too since melting even on shitty 12vhpr shouldn't ever happen on a card that can only draw 360 watts max overclocked>Meanwhile every 5090 cable
>>107677431>looks very lgbt+ friendly. what are your pronouns so i can respect them?Thank you for asking anon! I identify as high frame rates and cool temps.
>>107677415Interesting. Is the plastic thing on your GPU something you can buy and add to any GPU? Does it help with lowering temps a lot?
>>107677360> A 5080 is still a high-end GPU
>>107677400You can't blame AMD for the 12V Housefire cable being flawed, you can only blame AIB partners for opting to use it. Most 9070xt's thankfully opted to use two or three 8-pin cables.
>>107677296lol I'm upgrading from rocket lake.>>107677268Yeah, everthing gets worse bro
>>107677350Wow, all those products suck. Who would have thought. Of course NVIDIA is funding the end of humanity, so I don't know.
>>107677463I'd rather have a 5080 than a 7900XTX
>>107677461yes, I can't recall the last time my 600 watt housefire was over 50c
>>107677415you can see how he is afraid of the arson connector in this picture lmao. just look at that thing.
>>107677415Eva 01 ahhh pc
>>107677478what is the name of that thing?
>>107677414>But it isn't.SK Hynix, Samsung Electronics, and Micron. All three can produce DDR5 and GDDR6. DRAM is a commodity.
>>107677480Look I might not be a mindless AMD drone who bitches about things I can't afford, but I'm not stupid. 12HPWR is bad, so I put a temp sensor on it. If it goes over a set temp I have it setup to shutdown the PC.>>107677491anon I thought you were trolling me. It's a water block. The GPU is water cooled with a custom loop.
>>107677463like nobody is going to tell me that the 5090 and the 5080 are in the same tier when the 5080 belongs closer to the 5070ti and 5070.
>>107677501>MicronWhat, the company that is leaving the consumer market?
>>107677441Bigger fans pushing more air with less noise tho140mm has its perks
>>107677505>Look I might not be a mindless AMD drone who bitches about things I can't afford, but I'm not stupid. 12HPWR is bad, so I put a temp sensor on it. If it goes over a set temp I have it setup to shutdown the PC.
>>107677513We get it, you're a retard who probably is barely out of highschool with zero knowledge of historical GPU prices/trends and market segmentation.You've already convinced me you're unqualified to be having this conversation; you don't need to keep going.
>>107677384> High-end has basically always meant the two highestNo, that's not an eternal definition, that's only what you want it to be.A 16GB GPU is not high-end if a 32GB model exists, a GPU with 100% MORE VRAM JESUSCHRIST!And there are workstation cards we even more VRAM that we simply ignore here.High-end are currently 4090 and 5090. The 5080 is only a slightly faster 5070Ti with the same amount of VRAM.
Alright bros, ram prices will go down sooner than later, right? Because this not only affects consoomers, it also affects pretty much all the other components' manufacturers (cases, mobos, additional shit to cool the PC better etc.), right? Cuz who is gonna buy their parts if people looking to build a new PC are too adamant to do it because of the ram prices?
>>107677543>High-end doesn't refer to GPUs currently capable of running every game released at 60+fps at 4K with raytracing.Then what does it refer to?
>>107677550Kek, AI is a trillion dollar national security ponzi scheme and these other companies make a few billion at best. Consumer GPUs are now just 7% of Nvidia's revenue fyi.
>>107677526sorry that the 5080 isn't a high-end gpu like you said it was, but everyone can see it. like, it's much closer to the peasant folk gpus. you can't go out and say that just because those two are the highest-end gpus that nvidia offers right now that they are both high-end, when one is much faster and has like double the vram. it's like saying the v8 is much closer to the v12 in a car's model range when a bunch of i6 engines exist as well. the v12 is the flagship and the v8 is not even close.
>>107677399usa?
>>107677563You don't get it anon, a $4million hyper car is mid tier because it doesn't outperform an F1 car
>>107677565No way
>>107677563>>107677543Since when the fuck has "high end" only meant the halo product that only exists to dab on AMD and top the benchmarking charts?PCBG of 2015 would've laughed you out of this thread if you pulled that shit back then.Or back during the era of dual GPU cards, claiming an internal SLI card is high-end while the non-SLI version isn't would've had half the thread calling you a retard.
Jeff Bezos isn't rich because he's closer to homelessness than Elon Musk's wealth.
>>107677567Very close
This might sound dumb but what are extra PCI slots on a motherboard good for nowadays?I don't see any talk about dual GPU setups anymore. Also, in over 10 yeras I have used these slots once, to install a wifi network adapter. However now most motherboards come with wifi by default, so what they even good for anymore?
>>107677582you can't buy the f1 car and drive it on the road.
>>107677566Again, you've already convinced me, I get it.You dont know what you're talking about and we can cease the discussion.
>>107677604I like to cum on them
>>107677605Yeah but since $5M hypercars exist, $500,000 ferraris are solidly mid-tier garbage.
>4tb ssd I had in my cart has gone up $100 over the past week or twoMaybe I shouldn't have waited
>>107677521Cooling capacity is larger oc but more air hitting a radiator makes inevitably more noise. I can compare an ALF3 420 cooling a 16-core and an ALF3 360 cooling an 8-core and I hardly notice a difference. The real noise seems to come from the GPU fans.
>>107677616The SSD I bought 3 weeks ago for £110 is now "on sale" at £159 from the non-sale price of £210. It's 2TB WD Blue, average shit. Market's gone mad.
>>1076776164TB SSD I bought last week is up $45.
>>107677589I think High-end refers to any card capable of running 60FPS on max settings at 4K.What that has or hasn't to do with AMD, I don't know. But, if AMD cards can't do that, they're not high end.
Ram costs more than bussy nowadays, think about it
Nvidia still crashing on wuthering waves
>>107677604Not a whole lot.Extra USB ports, if you really want that. You can put PCI-E to M.2 converters in them, if you need like 6 m.2 slots, I guess.SLI is dead in gaming, but AI workflows can use multiple GPUs, so there's that.
>>107677660>Gook devs can't code so Nvidia has to save them.Sad, desu.
>>107677644This is why he is upset.
>576.88
>>107677644But that's delusional.My GTX 980 can run stardew valley at 4k60fps at max settings right now, that doesn't make it a high-end GPU today.You're just making up whatever you can to shoehorn ONLY the RTX 4090/5090 into "high-end".Sorry, but you don't get to set the rules here.
>>107677660Idk man, god of unemployment plays wuwa flawlessly on a 5090 max settings https://www.youtube.com/live/ifj6nHSYIRg
>>107677683I think the 5080 and 7900 XTX (Overclocked) are High end too, actually.
>>107677615if the ferrari is closer in price and just fast as all the hyper cars but the f1 car is street legal and wipes the floor with everything and can be bough for like tripple the price yeah. being expensive is not part of my argument and doesn't designate a gpu as high end. it's being the very best or nearly the very best like it used to be with the old titans and 780ti, 980ti and 1080ti.
>>107677615Ferraris can't be driven on public roads. You would lose your precious spoilers in the next pothole.Workstation cards like the RTX Pro 6000 however could run your games even faster than a 5090.They are just not marketed for gaming because their price is absurdly high and the increase in FPS not worth it.
>>107677702>33% difference is the sameYeah you're retarded
>>107677702Again, why the fuck do you think high-end = best available bar none.Just because there is a gap between the 5090 and 5080 doesn't mean they're NOT both high-end GPUs.Market segmentation isn't decided by absolute performance difference, it's decided by the actual product lineup presented, and in the CURRENT nvidia product lineup, the 5080 IS HIGH end, just not the HIGHEST end.
>>107677717>>107677719cope it's 147.7 fps vs 97.3 and 83.6like it's not even close. how is that high end. it's clearly mid tier at best.
oh this retard thinks hes elite because he has a zotac 5080i was wondering what this (((high end))) arbritrary bullshit was
Are dusters still the best/recommended way to clean PCs?
A 5080 is not a high-end GPU lol
the ram prices got me fucked up man, they almost make me want to get a job
>>107677736Dunk it in a barrel of iso.
>>107677734he is in the same camp as the 5070ti, 9070xt users but spend more money for the fastest 16gb gpu on the market.
Is there a third party Fan Control program that has automatic presets for Silent, Normal and Max? The branded app that comes with my mobo is bad
>>107677691>Idk man, god of unemployment plays wuwa flawlessly on a 5090 max settingsIsn't this nigger terminally broke from spending so much money on gacha?Why the hell is he buying a 5090?
>>107677732It's not cope you retard, it's the reality of how these things work.If you want to get MORE specific, you can further segment the market:Halo:>5090>4090High-end:>5080>4080Ti >4080 Super>4080>7900XTXMid-range:>5070Ti>5070>4070Ti>4070 Super>4070>7900XTetc
>>107677631£159 instead of £110 is nothing to cry home about.€1500 instead of €225 for a 64GB kit of RAM would be.
9070 XT and 7900 XTX on Linux with RADV Driver is 30% to 50% faster than 5090 so those are the only two high end gpus actually
>>107677750Yeah, it's literally just called Fan Control.
>>107677763It doesn't have automatic presetsI don't have the autism to make my own fan curves
>>107677644> 60FPSDid you perhaps mean 120FPS? or at least 100FPS?A high-end gaming display is not bought to run anything in 60FPS.
casual reminder that 5070 is elite because 4090=5070
>Entry-level >GeForce RTX 5050>GeForce RTX 5060>GeForce RTX 5060 Ti (8GB)>Radeon RX 9060>Radeon RX 9060 XT (8 GB)>Mid-range >GeForce RTX 5060 Ti (16GB)>GeForce RTX 5070>Radeon RX 9060 XT (16 GB)>Radeon RX 9070 GRE>Radeon RX 9070>Radeon RX 9070 XT>High-end >GeForce RTX 5070 Ti>GeForce RTX 5080>Enthusiast >GeForce RTX 5090Before anyone gets mad at me, this is from Wikipedia.
>>107677517Crucial as a brand is dead. Essentially, you can think of Micron's memory in the consumer space like an Nvidia GPU with no Founder's edition. Micron will continue selling its DRAM chips to Corsair, G.Skill, Kingston, etc.
>>107677719there is no highend card in nvidia's current lineup other than the 5090. the 5080 is just a grossly overpriced midrange card
>>107677756He has had the 5090 for a while now, he delivers food nowadays, apparently he makes enough money to buy monthly passes in multiple gacha games, food, electricity bills and some medical care I'm so jealous of first worlders, if only delivering food in my shithole gave me enough money for all that
>>107677757You want us to ignore the 5080 has the same die and same vram than the 5070ti why? Because of a <10 fps difference? This is literal cope lol
>>107677775He's setting arbitrary limits; they can be whatever he decides they are.
>>107677660nicotroon still not a real woman
>>107677393>Maybe the myth that coil whine goes away with time is actually people fixing the problem on their own by doing maintenance?There's too many variables to pinpoint why coil whine may or may not go away, but in general I think you can chalk up people's testimonies to them simply getting used to the sound. The human mind has this miraculous ability to cope with almost anything. You're probably already accustomed to the sensation of your nose getting used to a smell after soaking it in for a bit, well, you're still smelling the smell, but your brain just on-the-fly accepts it as the new normal and filters it out of your consciousness, so you can more easily notice other smells. The same happens to sounds and other stimulus. Even a guy losing all his limbs will sort of become blasé about it after a while.
>>107677757>any radeon card>high endCute
>>107677616>>107677643Mine went up $105 since I bought it.
>>107677791Again, it has nothing to do with specific game performance (why the fuck would it? just because one specific game runs like ass doesn't suddenly make it a good basis for ranking ALL graphics cards). Do you know what the term market segmentation means and how it's applied to Nvidia's GPU product stack?
I'm genuinely surprised there's people out there that thought there was a tier separation between 5070ti/5080. Why not just buy a 4090 or 5090 if you wanted a high end GPU?
>>107677804yeah they're probably just gaslighting themselves into thinking it disappeared when its gone due to changes in load or other variables.
>>107677815>DRAM-less SSDoof
they really are the icucks of the hardware spherethis is just sad to watch
hows this for a cheap build I threw together for my nephew?had the gpu and cpu sitting in my closet so I built around that
>>107677719> Again, why the fuck do you think high-end = best available bar none.Because "availability" lost it's former meaning. The second best is the 4090, the second best available is drastically inferior to the best, with only half the VRAM, and does not deserve to be called high-end. Complain to Nvidia for not giving the 5080 at least 24GB.
>>107677819I'm honestly surprised the marketers managed to convince you faggots a halo product was actually just a high-end GPU.You cunts always act like smug pricks who would OBVIOUSLY be immune to jewish marketing tricks, yet here we are. You're falling over each other trying to defend the 5090 as the only REAL "hjigh-end" card unironically.You consumerist whores should be lined up and shot.
>>107677829Like I really need that to store photos.
>>107677833It's fine. He can upgrade CPU and GPU when he gets his first summer job
>>107677834And yet, your personal opinion DOESN'T MEAN A FUCKING THING.Congrats, enjoy jerking yourself off while eveyone else ignores your worthless opinions. You're the exact type of consumerist whore that needs to be removed from modern society.
>>107677833Why are guy doing him dirty like that man
>>107677787>I'm so jealous of first worldersNah, it's about the US economy being fake, you won't be able to afford rent and all that in europe, specially in the eastern countries.
>>107677843>storing photos on an NVMe SSDOh sorry, I didn't realize you were ACTUALLY retarded.
>>107677816Are you really saying your argument is marketing over real world performance and what the literal die on the chip is? lol
>>107677748> the fastest 16gb gpu on the markeThe Zotac SOLID CORE is not the fastest 5080, it's slower even than the SOLID OC and several other 5080 models. It also has a cheaper cooling solution than the 5070Ti SOLID OC.
>>107677757>>107677782this just screams picrel
>>107677830They pay more for less every gen just like the Fapple tards. The tolerance for nvidiots windows users in this thread is the biggest tell of how much the quality of the posters on this board has declined. If you aren't using a radeon gpu on Linux you should leave this board and go
>>107677782>Wikipedialol lmao even
>>107677855Yeah the US economy might be fake because of AI, but that doesn't mean they're not getting all the benefits from it like my nigga God of unemployment is doing
>>107677841lol you are the one that keep bringing up marketing and "market segmentation" to make these claims, then getting insanely butthurt whenever someone shows you the performance of that "high end" 5080 barely outclasses the mid-range 5070ti, and why would it, when it has 90% of the exact same hardware lmao
>>107677862RAW files and finals are on a RAID 1 external, and backed up off-site every couple weeks. The 4tb is for current work projects that have been imported into Lightroom. Any other questions?
>>107677820I should have specified that I was speaking about people claiming that their coil whine completely went away over time. THAT is cope. A woodchipper will always sound like a woodchiper, but if your coil whine is quiet enough for you to get used to it, then you will, that's the point I was making.
>>107677757> HaloThis has never been a tier before. When did you make this shit up? Just now?It's high-END. Nothing above! This is what "end" means.
>>107677885You do realise the 9070XT has similar Price:Performance as the 5080, right?
>>107677903>1% and 0.1% lows are still better on the readeon despite a lower frame ratenot the hill to die on my friend.
>>107677782> Wikipedia.So it's confirmed nonsense.
>>107677897it definitely varies by the voltage the psu is supplying under load (mine varies between 11.85v and 12.05v at times) and what load they run. most people dont seem to get that though and think their coil whine disappeared for good when they see it gone in a game that pulls 40% tdp when it would still be present in one that pulled 60%+ tdp>completely went away over timethats pretty much a myth IMO. always unsubstantiated and pretty incredulous too
>>107677874My argument is and always has been that market segmentation is decided by the product lineup.If you have 2 products available you have high and low.If you have 3, you have high, medium, and low.When you have 7 products, unless you want to have 7 different product tiers, you're going to have group them together.At the moment in Nvidias product lineup we have:RTX 5050RTX 5060RTX 5060TiRTX 5070RTX 5070TiRTX5080RTX5090>>107677899Are you new?https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/nvidia-announces-rtx-50-series-at-up-to-usd1-999> the RTX 5090 at $1,999 as the halo part of this generationhttps://hardforum.com/threads/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-video-card-review-h.1746960/page-2#post-1039635685And here are several forum posts from 2013 using the term in relation to the GTX Titan.
Is the ai thing a bubble yes or nah
>>107677378Wrong. Only shit NVME. Most NVME have a copper sticker that is mini heatsink itself. Also don't push heatsinks if the damn mobo has one, then the NVME won't fit.Also holy shit nicobabby had a melty earlier lol
>>107677916fr. i originally wanted to get a 5080 had it been as fast as a 4090 for less power. but it was so slow that i got a 5090 instead
>>107677890>you're the only one actually looking at the industry, industry trends, industry marketing strategy, and the product stack actually being releasedyeah, how dare I.
https://wccftech.com/rtx-5090-16-pin-connector-cooked-beyond-recognition/>The Redditor u/nmp14fayl reported that he has been using his RTX 5090 GPU for nearly nine months.>On Christmas Eve, his GPU suddenly decided to die. From the looks of it, it appears that the connector did not just burn and turn into ashes, but also took down the GPU's connector by melting it horribly.>The user also clarified that he owned an ATX 3.1-compliant PSU (PowerSpec 1050 GFM) and used a native 12V-2x6 power cable that came with it.He used an atx 3.1 psu with the proper native cable it came with and properly connected it into the GPU. 9 months later and it probably degraded enough due to the inherently flawed 12VHPWR design and killed itself. But yeah 5090 is so safe and all the tech media that raised the alarm were just spreading FUD right? Nvidia will be facing a class action lawsuit as soon as someone dies in a fire from this just wait. Fuck anyone in these threads that lied it's not a big deal you will be culpable in any deaths that occur too.
>>107677903>5080 is a $100 card>9070XT is a $700 after AMD's price hikes.>5080 is about 35% faster than 9070XT>5080 is actually better value for money than 9070XT.Damn.
>>107677926Bubbles can last many years. That's why I don't like the term.
>>107677926Yes however if it pops so does the US economy and therefore the world economy
Sex with nicobaby....
>>107677931because it's a 70s class gpu that can't even out perform the prevouse flag ship like a proper 80s class should. there is no excuse for this at $1000
>>107677923even this article groups the 560 and 5070ti together lol>That means while the 512-bit interface on the RTX 5090 provides a whopping 32GB of VRAM, the 256-bit interfaces on the 5080 and 5070 Ti still end up with a 16GB GPU, and the 192-bit interface on the 5070 will 'only' provide 12GB of VRAM.
>>107677933Yes like lol since when has marketing mattered over performance? Maybe if you only buy prebuilts but then why are you here kek
>>107677943Man..... I'm not sure if I want that shit to pop, I just want the ram prices to go down, but it also does feel like a fake economy because of AI and I feel like the world might be ending for anyone who is not rich by 2100
>>1076779565090 = 1080ti5080 = 10805070ti = 1070ti5070 = 1060
>>107677956Did you want to make a relevant point?You're dumb cunt retarded ass is still BTFO by trying to claim being a "halo" product is some new age woke term. If Nvidia released an H200 based consumer GPU you faggots would suddenly say EVERYTHING else is low end in comparison, highend GPUs suddenly stop being high end the moment a much faster GPU releases, obviously.
>>107677736Turn off PC. Turn off psu. Ground yourself. Use duster on electronics faintly. Wipe case and fans lightly with microfiber. Done. And stop putting your case on carpet.
>>107677923Nvidia segments GPU's based on resolution and target fps >1080p 5050 Entry >5060 mid >5060 ti 8gb high>1440P5060 TI 16GB entry 5070 mid>5070 TI high>4k 5080 entry5090 highThere is just a missing product on the line up which would sit where the 4090 sits which would be 4k mid and cost $1499
>>107677931Well yeah that's what people do since it makes sense. 5080 buyers just return it and jump to the 5090 to get an actual high end gpu, not a gpu that is literally in the 5070ti.
>>107677785This. The 5080 was, is and will remain an insult to serious gamers. I remember that everybody and his dog expected it to feature 24 GB before the specs were disclosed and boy did it underwhelm us to learn that it's hardly any different to a 5070Ti.
>>107677975nah it just becomes the second pepe in >>107677916>>107677884bruh. it's not that deep.
>>107677980Which would still put the 5080 in the high-end tier, just at the lower end, which is what i've been saying this entire time.
>>107677604Sound cards. Extra SATA, SAS, NVME cards. Google it.
>>107677987>nah it just becomes the second pepe in How?It would be 10-100x slower in every game. You told me earlier, being the 2nd product in the lineup doesn't matter when the performance difference is 50%+.
What's the point of the 5070 being somewhat powerful if it only has 12 gigabytes of VRAM, that shit is not gonna last many gears if you play modern games
>>107677850You sound mad. Can't you afford a real high-end GPU?
Quick question, does anyone with a 5090 ITT consider the 5080 a high end graphics card?
>>107678003Quick question, who gives a fuck what they think?
>>107677988Yeah but you are arguing in /pcbg/ which is your big mistake, especially if you are talking about blackwell cards that can OC very well, the reallity is that there is no bad blackwell if get one that has above 8gb of vram it just depends what you want to use them and for how long do you want to use them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sEWLRKPDwA
>>107677997In my experience, people who buy midrange cards like the 5070/Ti and the 9070/XT are just people who like upgrading often and usually buy a GPU once every year or two.
>>107677940>Boughted a 5090 with a C tier MicroCenter PSUHe deserves it
5080 is just a mid gpu desu. nvidia should have just called it the 5070ti super or smth and released a proper 80 class gpu at 1.5k
>>107677988>>Which would still put the 5080 in the high-end tier,lol no it wouldn't
>>107678018Did we read different posts or are you really just that assblasted that you paid for a 5090 you have to glaze it THIS hard?
>>107678005OC the 4090 and it still comes out aheadI dont get comparisons of OC vs non-OC
>>107677997It's gonna last for a really long time with the vram shortage and the ps6 being delayed to 2028 at earliest, you have to remember that Devs targets certain specs and there is always a cross periiod generation, so you'll get games targetting ps5 pro specs roughly until 2030.You have the same thing happening right now with gpus like the 3070 TI it was only until year 5 that you started having trouble with 8gb of vram and the same can be expected for the 5070
>>107677885They removed the x80 Ti Class years ago.
>>107678017They were going to but just went fuck it! Just put the 5070ti die on it and call it a 5080. We'll market it as a High End GPU! They'll believe it even if the performance isn't any different that LITERALLY does not matter.
if it can't beat a 4090 it's not high end. overclocking doesn't count since you can oc both.
>>1076780244090 doesn't OC as well as the 5080.Honestly, I don't know why Nvidia didn't crank the base boost up so that in benchmarks the 5080FE would meet or beat 4090 performance.
>>107678024Blackwell OC is actually really stable because they are underclocked, You get no temp increase, not extra voltage or increased transcient spikes and you'll never have any issue unlike previous cards in which you are better doing an undervolt
>>107677926In valuation maybe, when considering the totality of AI related companies. Undoubtedly the tech giants like Alphabet and Microsoft will live or die based on their relative success at developing AI capabilities and integrating said capabilities into their products.It's like asking whether internet related companies were a bubble, when the internet is integral to modern life. Only in valuation, and only when considering the totality of internet related companies, and only for a very specific period in the infancy of the technology. Amazon was build on the internet, as was Alphabet. Arguably so was Applel as no one would care about pocket computing if the internet didn't exist.
>>107678022lol nobody is mad they bought a 5090. Are you really that delusional? >A 5080 is a high end gpu!!oh wait you already answered that fucking kek
>>107678042a 24gb 5080 would have had some ground to stand on but with just 16gb of vram and the 70 class die it's just not it.
>>107677919>it definitely varies by the voltage the psu is supplying under loadOriginal anon here, I stress tested my PC and made sure I was pulling full watts to replicate a worst case coil whine scenario. I even booted up the game that gave me the most obnoxious coil whine at 120 fps, which was Wuchang, and I can't hear it over the hum of my case fans anymore. I was playing it before I cleaned my PC, so I'm not just remembering wrong. I think maybe the PSU cable pins just weren't making full contact somewhere, which is why firmly reconnecting everything fixed my issue. If PSU cables became standardized, then it might fix 90% of coil whine issues, because you could easily buy new cables or mix and match to test, but that's just my hypothesis. My PSU btw is a montech century II.
I AM impressed that the kiddies arguing about GPUs here haven't posted the obligatory 4chan stack of cash with a note. Well done.
>>107678003Yes. Anything that out performs AMD is high tier. AMD said they will have no high tier flagship so that makes a 5080 high end. It's just the fact that the 5090 is so far ahead of everything else it's sort of silly.
>>107677888The US economy isn't fake because of AI, but because the US military is the police of the world, the US dollar is the international currency for everything and the US government acts in bad faith to curb competition against their own giga corporations so the only ones able to compete in the market are US corpos, this is thanks to having almost all the world hooked on USAID gibs so the presidents have to play ball to them or else they get huge economic sanctions and even a war starting on their country.
>>107678066We do stacks of RAM now. Get with the times.
Was the 4080 a high end card at release?
>>107678056>70 class die it's just not it.You're wrong. The 70ti is a lower binned 80 die. The 70 is on the 70 die.
>>107678077america struggled to give back germany their gold back. america is just a country full of currupt jews.
I still haven't built my new pc despite having all components for over a week
there is only one highend gpu die here
>>107678082The 4080 12GB or the 4080 16GB
>>107677855The catch is that affording rent on minimum wage in the US typically means you have to live in a ghetto with all the crime and health risks that entails. On the other hand, that's become increasingly normal globally over the past 10 years or so.
>nearly 2026>still nothing concrete on rtx 5080 superDid we fuck up waitsisters?
>>107678103I always said 24gb was a pipe dream
>>107678082no. it was always a 70s class gpu with not enough vram for it's price. it is one of the worse 80s gpus in recent memory.
>>107678103There is no chance now with the lack of DRAM fab space for consumer products.
>>107678082considering it was 75-80% as fast as a 4090 and not the 67% of the 5080/5090, it was considered highend back then
>>1076779715090 = GTX Titan Pascal5080 = 10805070 Ti = 1070 Ti5070 = 10705060 Ti = 10605060 = 1050 TiThere is no 1080 Ti equivalent this gen. Last 1080 Ti equivalent was the 3090 based on die.
>>107678080Sorry.
>>107678103Both https://x.com/NVIDIAGeForceand https://x.com/NVIDIAGameDev did not have any tweets announcing their CES appearences, so there is 0 chance they'll be announced on there
>>107678077The military is exactly why the economy isn't fake. Even with the mega corruption and everything being sold to the cheapest bidder there is still real world benefits and power. With AI it's literally just sifting through emails to sort spam and giving normies correct information 50% of the time as they're too lazy and/or stupid to look it up themselves.
>>107678114I mean, you're just wrong.5070 has GB2055070Ti has GB203-3005080 has GB203-400You don't get to lie and say they're the same because you enjoy making anons mad.
>>107678077And what's the point of doing all that if the US citizens are a bunch of porn addicted sissies
>>1076781245090 uses a harvested die in the same ratio of enabled cuda core count as old 80ti's
>>107677897>people claiming that their coil whine completely went away over time. THAT is cope.My coil whine did go away THOUGH. Aging components react differently to one another, and stress testing or real world use can and will age the components faster. A PSU being slightly less efficient by one milivolt might be enough to completely change the tone or intensity of whine.
>>107677997VRAM panic is a subtype of FOMOQuit being a slave
>>107677997>hat shit is not gonna last many gears if you play modern gameswhy wouldn't it? New consoles are pretty far out, and games actually being optimized around that target even further. 8gb is still usable today, 6gb you could make work if you really had to.
>>107678148That sounds like a 12 gig VRAM cope to me
>>107678133>5070Ti has GB203-300>5080 has GB203-400both on 70 class dies because the 5070 is just a 5060 and a 5060 is a 5050 actually
>>107678131>The military is exactly why the economy isn't fakeThe military is literally why it's fake, because it's basically enforcing the corrupt politicians' wishes around the world, basically hindering other countries economic progress.Just look at how every single country that produces oil and tried to use other currencies to trade it instantly got either invaded by OTAN or had "popular" revolutions, same shit with fucking siria that opposed a gas pipe from passing through there to the EU and instantly got into a civil war.If the US government couldn't bully foreign countries with their military, now they would have the same standards of living than any EU country.
>>107678166Do you even PC?
https://images.nvidia.com/aem-dam/Solutions/geforce/blackwell/nvidia-rtx-blackwell-gpu-architecture.pdf>GB202 is NVIDIA’s flagship GPU offering based on the Blackwell architecture, delivering revolutionary performance for the ultra-enthusiast graphics segment for gaming, content creation, and AI. The first GeForce RTX 50 series product that will be launching using the GB202 GPU is the GeForce RTX 5090. >The GB203 GPU is NVIDIA’s product for the high-end graphics segment. The first GeForce RTX 50 series product that will be launching using the GB203 GPU is the GeForce RTX 5080. The second GeForce RTX 50 series product that will be launching using the GB203 GPU is the GeForce RTX 5070 Ti. >The GB205 GPU is tailored for the performance GPU segment. The specs for the GeForce RTX 5070, based on the GB 205 GPU. So Nvidia's literal Blackwell documentation sees no difference for the GB203 GPUs. lmao. On the plus side, they consider both High-End GPUs.
>>107678166lollmao eventhanks for the laugh anon, you're floundering is hilarious if nothing else.
>>107678160You could make almost everything usable if you lower the settings and resolution enough, wtf is that argument
this retard is till at it?
>>107678172gee, i wonder why nvidia who has a vested interest in maximizing margins would want to call a chip that's half as large a highend chip!
>>107678172You do realize that literally reinforces the point right?The claim that the 5070 and 5080 are the same Die is wrong.The 5080 and 5070Ti yes, but not the 5070 and 5080 as you tried to claim (because you're a retarded faggot who doesn't actually know what he's talking about and is just trying to get (you)s because he has no life).I assume you're also the retard who makes the OP for these threads.
Sorry fellas.The 1060 and 1080 both shared the same die size.So, the 1080 is actually an entry level card.
>>107678171>>107678173still won't make the 5080 high end>>107678180because your i4 is just as good as the full v8
>>107678183>>The claim that the 5070 and 5080 are the same Die is wrong.> The first GeForce RTX 50 series product that will be launching using the GB203 GPU is the GeForce RTX 5080. The second GeForce RTX 50 series product that will be launching using the GB203 GPU is the GeForce RTX 5070 Ti.LMAOOOOOOOOOO
>no you dont get it, im part of the elite, my buddy nvidia told me so
>>107678190nvidia also says that the 5060 8gb is a good gpu for gaming in 2025
>>107678172ok so i'll take the bait, modern dies have shrink because more and mort part of the die goes into tensor cores which do hardware acceleration and parallel computing and in task that do take leverage of that Blackwell in general has over 30% gen on gen uplift, the 5080 has a higher bandwith and 1806 Tensor cores tops compared to 1406 on the 5070 ti to put this into perspective the 4080 has 780 while a 4090 has only 1321, if we ever get the neural rendering to leverage this on gaming you would start to realize the difference between teh 5080 to the 5070 ti https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/verifying-nvidia-geforce-rtx-50-series-performance/
>>107678180NO NVIDIA SAID IT SO IT MUST BE TRUEAND ACTUALLY THE 5080 AND 5070TI ARE BOTH HIGH END ACKSUALLYNVIDIA SAID IT SO IT'S TRUE FACTS AND THOSE ARE THE ONLY FACTS ITT
>>107678140>A PSU being slightly less efficient by one milivolt might be enough to completely change the tone or intensity of whine.Nah, it's all about insulation. You hear your coils singing because the sound isolation is shit or improperly applied. Your coils vibrating and heating up might eventually melt the plastic housing to create a better seal, but it's not an instant process. There's way too many people fixing their coil whine with thermal putty or glue for this not to be the case.
>>107678189Based illiterate anon.Never let the words hurt you. But, try that one again. Maybe use your finger to grace each word this time so you don't get lost.
>>107678168That's exactly why it isn't fake. It actually has proper real world power and use even if it's fucking up foreign countries for (((whatever reason))). AI can't do that which is why they're pivoting to MUH CHINA and trying to provoke a trade war using taxpayer money.
>>107678189.... are you actually retarded?That's literally says exactly what I said.The 5070 is the GB205The 5080 is the GB203The 5070Ti is a cut down GB203.The 5070 and 5080 do not share the same die.I don't know if you can't read, or you're really just dumb, but wow, you really are something.
I need recommendations for a quiet midrange air cooler and case fans please. Going to swap out the front ones on my case and do an exhaust fan, so 2 140mm and a 120mm. Are Scythe and beQuiet still as good as they've been historically or are there others good brands with that quality in the same price range?
>>107678199The 5080 is a high end gpuWhy? Because nvidia gave both the same die GB203and the same bus widthand the same vram and the same....you know what that doesn't matterone costs more $250 whole dollars more One is $749 the other $999doesn't get more high end than that lololololololol
>goyget systemsim pretty sure there are multiple retards being retarded here but in case you forgot
>>107678216>i can't read, so now I have to defend my point anywayalright then, good luck.
>>107678204>The 5070 and 5080 do not share the same die.>The first GeForce RTX 50 series product that will be launching using the GB203 GPU is the GeForce RTX 5080. >The second GeForce RTX 50 series product that will be launching using the GB203 GPU is the GeForce RTX 5070 Ti.-source: Nvidia's literal Blackwell documentation LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>107678216Very funny.But I'm going back to playing Cyberpunk at 4K 100FPS on my 5080.
>>107678137True but to me there has to be a higher consumer chip in existence to qualify as a 1080 Ti homolog
>half the cuda cores>256 bit busit's a 70 class gpu or else it would have had 72% to 75% of the cuda cores of a 5090 and a 320bit bus with 20gb or 384 bit bus with 24gb of vram and be just as fast and or faster then the 4090. cope, seethe and dilate tranny faggots. your 5080 is slop and not a real 80 class gpu.
why do you guys even argue with people who aren't posting the hardware they're currently using
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>The first GeForce RTX 50 series product that will be launching using the GB203 GPU is the GeForce RTX 5080.>The second GeForce RTX 50 series product that will be launching using the GB203 GPU is the GeForce RTX 5070 Ti.No I don't what that says, let me read it again>The first GeForce RTX 50 series product that will be launching using the GB203 GPU is the GeForce RTX 5080.>The second GeForce RTX 50 series product that will be launching using the GB203 GPU is the GeForce RTX 5070 Ti.No, I still don't like that. Let me read it again >The first GeForce RTX 50 series product that will be launching using the GB203 GPU is the GeForce RTX 5080.>The second GeForce RTX 50 series product that will be launching using the GB203 GPU is the GeForce RTX 5070 Ti.NO THAT BE TRUE READ IT AGAIN>The first GeForce RTX 50 series product that will be launching using the GB203 GPU is the GeForce RTX 5080.>The second GeForce RTX 50 series product that will be launching using the GB203 GPU is the GeForce RTX 5070 Ti.FUCK THAT IS NOT WHAT IT SAYS READ IT AGAINNNNNNN>The first GeForce RTX 50 series product that will be launching using the GB203 GPU is the GeForce RTX 5080.>The second GeForce RTX 50 series product that will be launching using the GB203 GPU is the GeForce RTX 5070 Ti.
>>107678220This has been benchmarked by third parties https://www.researchgate.net/publication/398269857_Microbenchmarking_NVIDIA's_Blackwell_Architecture_An_in-depth_Architectural_Analysis
>>107678237we already know they're using an asus prime 9070xt
>>107678232>5070ti superfify
>>107678237everybody knows that is a certain Canadian that is made about the OP not shilling RDOA4
>>107678251It's a 5080. It's the first GeForce RTX 50 series product that will be launching using the GB203 GPU. The second GeForce RTX 50 series product that will be launching using the GB203 GPU is the GeForce RTX 5070 Ti.
>>107678262see>>107678234
i see he already started falseflagging after being completely exposedabsolutely grim
>>107678268>>107678262Will you just ignore this >>107678246>>107678196
>APPENDIX Blol, lmao even
4k(1080(720))
>>107678276Bro performance, benchmarks, gaming etc. that shit don't matter it's about market segmentation, historical industry trends remember.
>>107678288don't forget the frame gen that is needed for running games at 720p at 100fps
APPENDIX BSOURCE: NVIDIA RTX BLACKWELL GPU ARCHITECTURE
>>107677784>Micron will continue selling its DRAM chips to Corsair, G.Skill, Kingston, etc.Fat chance, they're using this pivot to sell exclusively to datacenters and have no reason to renew contracts with 3rd parties after their supplies dries up, they get to maximize profits between US subsidies and 5x markups for datacenter RAM with no risk as they're fully ingrained in the American tech sector, once AI slows down they'll just cut jobs and production to keep their margins steady.
>Noctua NH-D15 G2 is $170Is this actually better than the older version? Surely nothing is worth this much, what about other competitors?
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Nicotranny is a fucking faggot
