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I'm never going back to budget XX6X GPUs. It's such a refreshing experience to not hear my GPU stressing and sounding like a blow dryer while gaming after upgrading to a high end GPU.
I need a roomy full tower case that can also dampen noise from multiple HDDs, 5-7 fans, GPU coil whine, and a blu ray drive. What are my options?
>>107693076I figured if you bought a three fan model it would be dead quiet. I remember my old 980ti spooling up constantly, but it was two fan.
Friendly reminder. You will never be a real 80-class GPU. You have no GB202 silicon, you have no 320-bit/ 384-bit bus, you have no 20GB/ 24GB of VRAM. You are a mid-range GB203 chip twisted by Jensen’s greed and a $1,000 MSRP into a crude mockery of a flagship’s perfection. All the "validation" you get from benchmarks is two-faced and half-hearted; behind your back, the entire enthusiast community mocks you for having only 49% of the 5090's CUDA cores. Your specs are a dead giveaway - 16GB of VRAM and a 256-bit bus is the "mid-range bone structure" that proves you are just a 70-series card in a suit. Even if a drunk gamer brings you home, they’ll turn tail and bolt the second they see you choking on 4K textures because you lack the bandwidth and "breathing room" of a real enthusiast card. You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake DLSS frame every morning and tell yourself it’s 4K gaming, but deep inside you feel the VRAM limitations creeping up like a weed, ready to crush your framerates under the unbearable weight of Ray Reconstruction. Eventually, it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll be listed on eBay for $400, and every buyer for the rest of eternity will know a mid-range 70-class chip is buried under that shroud. This is your fate. This is what Jensen chose for you. There is no turning back.
>>107693076It's nice to have a card that actually stays in zero rpm mode instead of turning on and off.
>>107693076>>107693110just put your pc under your desk
Good evening my /g/. May you have a wonderful holiday
>>107693101Doesn't matter, they cut down on the heatsink density.
been trying to fix an old computer and I have now purchased everything new again except the CPU and ram (it didn't have a gpu)
>>107693081Nothing. Get a used Cooler master HAF 932 Advanced. That or pay out the ass for a Silverstone case.
>>107693160I guess that's one improvement. I got a 5080 that uses less power than my 3090 while having a far more advanced heat exchanger. Runs nice and quiet comparatively.
>>107693081fractal design 7 or 7xl
>>107693081I use a corsair 750D airflow. It doesn't dampen the noise because it's a high airflow case, but it does fit 6x 3.5" HDDs, 3-4x 2.5" SSDs, 3x 5.25" front bays, and room for 8x 120mm case fans or 5x 140mm case fans.
>>107693076It's a nice change from old high end GPUs that used as much power as possible all the time and were loud hot bastardsof course on radeon it's still like that
>>107693204>out the ass for a Silverstone case.Such as?
>>107693234
>>107693234or
>>107693204>haf 932 advancedMmm, didn't go so well for the last anon that bought one here now did it?
>>107693263No he was lazy and didn't strip it down then take it outside and scrub it with dish soap and water.
Very satisfied with my 3080. You really don't need more for gayming and video editing, world standard are still at 1080 for both
>>107693293Very satisfied with my 5090. You really don't need more for gayming and video editing, world standard are still at 4k for both
>>107693227>but it does fit 6x 3.5" HDDsTechnically I think it fits 15 if you buy additional HDD caddies.It uses caddies that fit 3 HDDs, you can stack 3 of those caddies on top of each other at the very front of the case for 9 HDDs, then you can do a stack of 2 more caddies next to the PSU for 6 more, for a total of 15 3.5" HDDs.
>>107693292Anon do you have sclerosis he literally spent 2 fucking days scrubbing and drowning that thing short of deriveting it.
>>107693227>750DOne of many "they don't build them like they used to" era cases on the listhttps://youtu.be/OCjlILdmKiw
>>107693293>Very satisfied with my 5070 TI. You really don't need more for gayming and video editing, world standard are still at 2.5K for both
>>107693333I could have done it in an hour. Sorry he wasted his time.
>>107692999>Side panel is facing away from the monitorLgbt bros is getting smarter
>>107693109
>>107693081This one looks promising. Very old school Cooler Master like.
https://videocardz.com/newz/zephyr-still-covering-amd-radeon-rx-6900-6800-gpu-bulging-and-cracking-issues-1-chance-failure-each-yearHE BUYED BOUGHTED DEFECTIVE AYYMDEAD GPUS
Should I upgrade my 3090FE to something like 5070Ti or 9070XT or just hold onto it and hope 6000/10000 series will release with more VRAM and won't require a mortgage?I don't want to lose much VRAM coz I do some sloppening from time to time.
>>107693418I wouldn't trust nvidia with the 60 series
>>107693359>I could have done it in an hour. With what? The garden hose in the middle of a freezing winter?
HELLOI have never fucked around with undervolting and such thingsIs this ok? I've veen playing CP2077 with it for the past couple of hours and it's smooth as butter and never went above 55 degrees
>>107693383Shame that solid panel version doesn't have the PSU shroud.
>>107692999my 9070 just blew up and took my cat along with it, i'm fucking done
>Cooler Master>Chieftec>Antec>Silverstone>Fractal>InWin>EvercaseMy case designers of all time.
>>107693400thats some fermi level of fuckup
>>107693418>I don't want to lose much VRAM coz I do some sloppening from time to time.hold onto it then
>>107693261Damn, I remember when we used to have chassis beyond micro/midi tower and had stuff like "big tower" or "super tower".
Is there any real differences between these CPU contact frames? I saw I can get a thermalright for a lot cheaper than the thermal grizzly which seems to be the standard, but it's all just milled aluminum right? as long as I check and make sure there are no electronic bits under the frame that would be crushed when I tighten, nothing else to worry about right?intel 265k if it matters
When will buildcores add 3D models for slim towers? I want to pretend to build pretty ITX builds to contrast my very real giant fat box.
is getting used PCs listed as "broken" in hopes of repairing them and taking out their working parts a good idea?
>>107693542There's no noticable difference between them so eihter will work
Do the 5600X and 5700X require more/different cooling than the 3600? Or will the cooler I have on my 3600 work fine for those as well? I'm keeping an eye out for a secondhand listing at a non-retarded price for these two. They're not the biggest jump up from my 3600 from what I've read, but it should help a bit with the 1% lows and it's really the only part of my current build that I feel would make sense the change. The rest is still chugging along just fine without a problem.
>>107693654It's not a substantial upgrade.
>>107693076I'm with youI don't even care if they go to $5k I'm still buying the xx9x gpus my current gpu is a 4090 and my next one will be a 6090 assuming it isn't exploding melting shidding farding dogshit that can't run old gayems like the 5090
>>107693678Huh, that is less of an impact than I would have thought. Certainly I knew the average fps wasn't that big of a jump, but the 1% lows also seem barely impacted. Was the jump from zen 2 -> zen 3 just not that big? I haven't really kept up with hardware much the past few years as you can tell. Would the 3600X->5700X be more of a jump with the 2 extra cores, or is it more of the same? And would the results be similar at 1080p as they are at 1440p like in your screenshot? Do the 5000 series cpu's at least run cooler than the 3000 series? Sorry for all the questions, but I really expected that going up a generation would've had more impact.
>>107693454I'd take it to the shower then and use warm water. Even better.
>>107693765>Would the 3600X->5700X be more of a jump with the 2 extra cores, or is it more of the same?Depends on the game, but more performance gains @ 1080p because the system is less GPU-bottlenecked.https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-5700x/15.html
>>107693686Why do you think they will suddenly reintroduce physX with the 60 series especially when Nvidia proclaims itself not as video game company
anyone else become obsessed with input lag lately?
>>107693765It's about a 20% increase in gaymes, as would be expected, going from one ryzen gen to the next.
For a 7600x3d, will an AIO make any difference from a peerless assasin? It idles around 43 with the assasin
>>107693911i do not consent to vsync
>>107693911Just run DLSS and half it.
>>107693357Yeah i've been trying to keep mine going, I just ordered a full new set of dust filters.
>Hydro Ti 1000W is down to $240Tempting.
>>107693927Idle doesn't matter. Temps under sustained load do.
>>107693911A bunch of games have a deadzone problemhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsQ6g4ke3aI
>>107693959>I just ordered a full new set of dust filtersBased af, too many people upgrade to something new instead of spending a bit to keep an old case going another decade.
>>107693996>For a 7600x3d, will an AIO make any difference from a peerless assasin? It idles around 43 with the assasinAround 63 after a few minutes on this test. Not sure if there is a better program to test with, just googled one
>>107693678>Nvidia cards getting better results with intel CPUsHuh, AMD might actually be throttling Nvidia GPUs.
>>107693459Your settings are pretty conservative. You should monitor your frame rate and stability as you mess with the settings. With a -30% power limit, I can undervolt by -60 mV: If I push it further, I begin to have stability issues. I also raised my VRAM freq. to 2650 MHz. Past that, there were diminishing returns where I had to significantly increase the frequency, and therefore risk stability, to see FPS improvements. In your case, depending on the silicon lottery draw, you might be able to undervolt further and raise the VRAM freq., but it's not worth it unless you really want to squeeze out a little more performance.
I have a 1440p/180hz monitor and a 5700X3D/32GB system. Is a 16GB 5060ti worth the 60€ premium over a 16GB 9060XT? I am already budget constrained so I am thinking of just getting the 9060xt for 400€.
>>107693911esports. there are some stuff you can't do in street fighter without a high refresh rate monitor
>>107694114Yes, the 5060Ti supporting DLSS4 alone makes it worth the $60 premium even if they were tied otherwise.DLSS will give you better long term performance, especially assuming Nvidia continues updating their AI models (which seems likely).
>>107694114I see AMD is back to NVIDIA -$50. Their marketing team is something else. I'd buy whatever you want. This place is too retarded and filled with people that have buyers remorse to give an honest answer.
>>107694145The problem is that the cheapest 5060ti models also have worse coolers than the 400€ 9060xt (https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-R9060XTGAMING-OC-16GD) I can buy, which makes a 5060ti with an equally good cooler even more expensive. >>107694157>I see AMD is back to NVIDIA -$50They never stopped doing this. If I wasn't such a poorfag I would just buy nvidia and not even think about it at this point but alas. I've only used AMD gpus since 2011 but there is no point buying their shit anymore if you can afford better.
>>107694114Nvidia is developing technology to make GPUs last longer with upscaling and generation. So, chances are those cards will last longer or get better performance with software embellishments.
>>107694224It still wont make up for the lack of DLSS, but you do you my guy.FSR is dogshit in comparison to DLSS in the vast majority of games, and the games where DLSS is worse, you can run FSR on the Nvidia cards too.
>LTT put out a pc build guide for 2026>the ram he used cost $300 when he made the video >check price today for that same ram on their link>sold out at best buy (has been for weeks btw)>$450 on Newegg>$779 on Amazon not even 2026 and already outdated lol
>>107694114Depends on how you're planning on using the card. If you're only going to game and don't mind using OptiScaler to inject FSR4, then the 9060XT16GB will be fine. If you use software that can benefit from CUDA and want slightly better game upscaling and access to MFG, then the 5060 Ti 16GB is better. Overall, the 5060 Ti 16GB is a superior product, but if you won't use its extra features, it depends on you if the price difference is worth it.>>107694243You're just lying though. FSR4 is competitive with DLSS4 in image quality--its only shortcoming is its lack of support in games without 3rd-party software.
>>107694114AMD will abandon RDNA4 in 2027 like they always do
>>107694243>FSR is dogshit in comparison to DLSS in the vast majority of gamesDidn't FSR4 close the gap a bit?
>>107694271How does it look in Cyberpunk, Control, Dying Light 2 and Metro Exodus?
>>107694271Oh yeah, I only plan to use it for games. Should have mentioned that in the first post.
>>107694076For gayming simulation, Time Spy (free on Steam) is good. I also like Cinebench (R23 and/or R24) to max out CPU temps. If anything can thermally throttle a CPU, Cinenebench will. Also free.hwinfo64 should also be running with Cinebench as it just gives you a score.
If you're buying a GPU, you should look at DLSS and FSR and decide which you think looks better.Because you're going to use them at some point.
>>107694271>You're just lying though. FSR4 is competitive with DLSS4 in image quality--its only shortcoming is its lack of support in games without 3rd-party software.In games that do have FSR4 but don't have DLSS, there are already easy ways to force FSR4 on Nvidia cards, something you can't do with DLSS4 and an AMD card.Further, DLSS4 is still better as it has less fringing/flickering on distant fine details like power lines and shit. FSR4 DID close the gap, but it isn't equal to or better than DLSS4, and with the $ Nvidia can bring to the table, I don't see it changing anytime soon as Nvidia simply has more resources to refine their models and iterate 10x more than AMD in the same period of time.
Why should I not make a mini ITX build, /g/?
>>107694318Because, ultimately, it will all be a series of compromises. Cooling, performance, options, etc.
>>107694302Sub 4K both are terrible but at 4K DLSS Quality becomes god tier better than native and FSR is even worse feces1080p internal resolution gives DLSS enough info to work properly below that it's a poor return
>>107694243framgen is the same as the liquid s0o_y you have on an intravenous drip. nobody cares
>>107694318my complaint is the lack of noise insulation.
>>107694318>>107694326what are you on about. there's no difference between a huge case or tiny anymore. just choose aesthetic and desired volume. you're not going to have any performance differences unless your form factor is so small you can't have two extra fans.
>>107694302I heard modern GPUs can upscale old media (tv/movie/anime) in active time? Is this true?Does anyone have any examples? I remember some anon mentioning his VLC tied into his GPU for that.
>>107694318ITX? lol they suck ass
>>107694288All these games are supported without issue by OptiScaler FSR4, so they should look good. Listen to >>107694302. Watch a few videos and compare them. I personally don't think I could tell the difference between them in a real-world situation.
>>107694352yes rtx super resolution does that and if you have a 4k monitor you certainly need it on if watching something below 1080p either that or let madvr do it
>>107694302If you're buying a GPU, more transistors is better.
>>107694364Remember, AMD can't into FSR + anti-cheat.Nvidia has no problems with DLSS + anti-cheat.
>>107692999
>>107694414optiscaler works in wuthering waves
AMD doesn't come with all the software you need to run games and you have to use some random third party tool to enable features?
>>107694463Time to use AMDFirst have to use linux since windows will uninstall the official drivers every single weekThen go on random discord servers and hunt for some actual drivers that might work, hope TrannyPedo643 is online and updated themThen go on github to get some more drivers in case the others don't work don't worry this is totally normal for amd and you're totally dumb if you don't do itMake sure to hit up reddit too r/AMDhelp has 200 thousand people on it for good reason after allOh yeah don't forget to get optiscaler too so you can use a bunch of features AMD does not officially support either, don't worry there's lots of servers and forums to spend all day onOh yeah can't forget lossless scaling, make sure to buy that as well in case AMD's terrible frame generation is still even worse than some random one man operationThen look for the list of games that use FSR 3.1 and turn on FSR 4. Don't worry it's only about 100 games so it's very easy to find oneOh wait I forgot FSR 4 is now called FSR so just look for that insteadThen setup your undervolt so that the 9070XT does not try to pull 350W every single time the fans spinAnd make sure you didn't buy one with the housefire cable because even a 9070XT can burn those cables somehowOh yeah after all that you can go and get redstone too and enjoy MAX FPS (Official AMD terminology) in the latest gamesAnd after all that you can finally enjoy AMD's crowning glory and the reason they put all this work in and made all those graphics cards: CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS 7
Why Noctua is not mentioned in recomms?>hardware retard question, be patient please
>>107694288Cyberpunk is an NVIDIA poster child.>>107694291If you want plug and play NVIDIA is for you. If you don't mind having to use a third party then optiscaler and AMD are fine. DLSS4 is still better overall. It really should throw out red flags that FSR4 is native on almost nothing. If it were so good, for love of God why not run it native? Maybe it's not worth optimizing for because the far majority run NVIDIA. It really makes no sense.
Which 5070 Ti should I get, Gigabyte WindForce OC SFF or Zotac Solid SFF OC? They're the same price.Gigabyte seems a more reliable brand but they have recently released a Windforce V2 revision because the original had issues with thermal gel: https://videocardz.com/newz/gigabyte-reputation-melts-alongside-thermal-gel-more-cases-of-rtx-50-gel-spill-issueMeanwhile Zotac offers 5 years of warranty and puts fuses on the power connector to protect the board in a case of a power surge. But I have read bad opinions about the reliability of Zotac cards.
>>107694433and there are 200+ other games where it doesn't.Your point?
>>107694528Gigabyte might actually stand behind their warranty. You get 4 years if registered. I have a Gigabyte 5080 and 5090, Neither have any issues with the putty. Other than that they are about the same quality.
>>107694528It's not so bad with Nvidia cards. Nvidia has it so all cards have the same base clock and the only difference really is cooling, and boost clock you can adjust yourself.It's only really AMD where the cheap models are down clocked and has a lower base clock than the other models. The 9070XT is particularly bad for it and you're throwing away like 5% performance for buying one of the downclocked ones.
>>107694518all fans are the same. there's just ass plastic with no lube and normal plastic
>>107694555>>107694570I don't plan on overclocking, I'm looking for the best long-term reliability.
>>107694518Some people dislike them because they tend to be the most expensive, and even if they have the highest tier performance and warranty coverage, they're not "worth" that extra money to many people.Why spend $40 for a fan when you could spend $15 for a fan that's 95% as good?That being said, I have ~$400 worth of noctua fans and heatsink in my PC.
>>107694613>That being said, I have ~$400 worth of noctua fans and heatsink in my PC.So, what like 1 fan and a heatsink?
>>107694607I would and have bought Gigabyte with no issues. So you know what I'd choose between the two.
>>107694528i never had zotac but i had a windforce 960 that lasted 7 years in a daily-on pc without a problem.
>>1076946285x 140mm G2 fans and an NH-D15 G2 (with 1x140mm G2 and 1x120mm G2).
Best value 2 TB SSD in these trying times?Needs to have DRAM.
>>107693832>>107693923I'm going to be honest, I tend to stick to singleplayer games and I'm totally fine with my games running at like 70-100 fps. I've only got a 120hz screen anyway, so anything more isn't really useful to me. I'm starting to get the idea that getting a 5700X would basically be putting down 130-150 euro for no real tangible benefit for me then? I'm still slightly on the fence because of the whole ddr5 situation right now, so maybe I should still do the upgrade just to be safe for another 2-3 years. Assuming the 3600 will start to struggle by then?
>>107694634>>107694656I know Gigabyte has a good reputation, but in this specific case they have gone out of their way to release a V2 revision without the gel: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/gigabyte-removes-controversial-leaking-thermal-gel-from-rtx-5070-ti-windforce-v2-company-opts-for-traditional-thermal-pads-with-updated-graphics-cardThat does make me worry about the long-term reliability of the card.
>>107694613understood, what would be example of 95% as good? i think i will still go with noctua for warranty, detailed specification prepared for customers also builds the trust with brand
>>107694433>wuthering wavesOK, who is it here that keeps shilling for a low spec chinesium game?
>>107694718What kind of ram and motherboard do you have?
>>107694730was it just excess paste leaking? did the thermals of the card suffer? is it electrically conductive gel?Anyway i wish thermal pads were the standard these days.
>>107694699you know about sam altman?theres no best value ssd anymore
uhhh amdsissies?? Why didn't Linus recommend a 9070XT??????????????????? I'M GOING TO NICONICORAGE AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>107694785A B450 (tomahawk max from msi) and 2x16gb 3200cl16
>>107694699im kind of surprised by how small the ssd mark-up seems to be, you can still get a 2tb 990 pro for 229, that isn't TOO bad, i got one for 169 in february.I mean it's more expensive, but it's nothing compared to what happened to ram.Yet.
>>107694844I'm sure it will go up steadily, but you're right- where DDR5 jumped $200, NVMe drives jumped about $100.
>>107694699990 Pro or SN850X. Sadly they're about $230 for 2TB these days.If you're in the US, check Walmart's website for the SN850X, the stock is regional (based on where you live) but they've still got them for $190.
>>107694330That's one thing I was worried about. I'm sure liquid cooling would be better but I don't want to deal with it.>>107694338The case I'm looking at has room for two fans so I should be fine in that regard.>>107694355Oh, are they that bad? I thought at this point everything should more or else perform okay. I know hearing and noise complaints were the main issues back some years ago. Are there stability issues that affect itx boards?
>>107694843RAM is decent, motherboard is kinda meh due to pci-e 3.0What's your GPU?
>>107692999I bought a 5070ti, the drivers constantly crashes, I have a 9070XT mercury that's should come soon, did I fuck up?
I have never used DLSS or FSR in a single game beyond Sultim's Half-Life path tracing mod since its launch.
msi colgate b450 promo code revving my woif tonoight
>>107694837>"Unfortunately the best option at this price point"Uh oh, another 12 hour meltdown incoming
>>107694699If you want SATA then Kingston KC600, remaining 870 Evo supply, or Sandisk Red are your remaining options
>>107694854i think we'll soon see a return to mid-2010's era of pc builds, where people pair a small SSD with a large HDD for mid-high range gaming builds.
>>107694877It's a 5060ti, the 16gb version. Got it a for cheap from someone I know who was upgrading a couple of months ago, which is why it's so much more recent than the rest of my machine.
>>107694937I never abandoned this practiceI only have 512/256gb SSDs and 1-14TB HDDsI was hoping 8TB SSDs would hit the market by now with $/TB reaching parity but lol lmao how naive i was
>>107694811Gigabyte just cheaped the fuck outThe probably switched because whatever goop they used wasn't aging or staying put like it should. Good putty would otherwise be good for 10-20 years and can survive much higher vibrations than your PC will ever experience but it's costly. (Eg. Tputty 607)
>>107694948Get the 5700X then, it will be worth it in your case. Maybe try selling the 3600X too to recoup some of the cost.
>>107694956i gave up on the hdd meme a few years ago, at least for my pc. all ssd storage on the pc, with a hdd nas array in another room mounted as a network drive on my pc for all mass storage needs.Either way, we both use hdds though. SSDs have been stagnant for so many years, the only advancements coming in worthless new pcie versions that require active cooling, and now? they're backsliding. Eblin.
>>107694752Arctic P12 / P14 PWM PSTThermalright TL-C12C / TL-B12be quiet! Pure Wings 3All are going to be ~1/2 or less than a Noctua fan.Generally speaking though the quality control is lower on these fans, you're more likely to get a dud, or run into issues in the first year compared to Noctua fans.There is a reason Noctua fans have a 150,000 lifespan. Most people generally dont need that endurance though, especially if they can buy 2-4 fans for the same price as 1 Noctua fan and just replace their fans 3-4x over the same 150,000 hours.But if you just want to buy fans and leave them there running continuously for 12+ years, Noctua is the way to go.
>>107694937>This is what delusional hddfags actually believeNobody cares about shitty spinning rust anymore aside from autistic luddites in this board.
>>107694937>Small SSD and large HDDI still do this. SSDs just don't seem trustworthy enough for long-term usage.
>>107694994>Thermalright TL-C12C / TL-B12Don't.
any info on this mobo? literally 0 reviews online it's like one out of 2 or 3 that fit my autistic demands when it comes to headers and m2 locationalso how dogshit is asus software? I've had their mouse I installed armory crate for to turn off rgbt and it was borderline malware
REMINDER that until Turing/Pascal we saw a DOUBLING of VRAM accross the board EVERY GENERATION. The 5090 should have 96GB, the 5080 64, the 5070 Ti 48.
>>107695000if you're relying on the trustworthiness of any device to preserve your data, you've already failed badly somewhere along the chain of good storage practice...
>>107692999Why are AMD cards still dogshit for video games even though they use the same architecture as the Xbox and PlayStation?
>>107694994>But if you just want to buy fans and leave them there running continuously for 12+ years, Noctua is the way to go.Exactly why I got them and why I bought some Japanese 120mms decade ago. Only one fan failure and I still think it's due to the fan controller on the old build.
>>107694972>Get the 5700X then, it will be worth it in your caseAlright then. I can apparently get one new in box for 150 euro, so I'll take a look around secondhand listings for a couple of days to see if something cheaper pops up, otherwise I'll go for that. Just for my understanding, why is it worth it in my case? Is it just a good pairing with the gpu? >Maybe try selling the 3600X too to recoup some of the costI misremembered earlier, it's a non-X 3600. Not sure how much I should ask for it, 40-50 euro or so I'd guess?
>>107695022what game would require so much vram
>>107695020That board looks like it will only take AIO or small 120mm air heatsinks. Look how close the CPU is to the PciE. I'm curious how the m2 cooling will fair with that crowdage.
>>107695022REMINDER that cpu speed DOUBLED every 3 YEARS between 1996 and 2002. Ryzen 9800x3d should be 15ghz.
>>10769503050€ sounds ok no need to go lower than that, just compare it to local listings too to be sure. > Is it just a good pairing with the gpu?It is, a 3600 will hold the 5060ti back a bit, since it's basically the equivalent of the CPU the xsx/ps5 have and that's the minimum/baseline for modern games. The ideal solution would be to get a 5700X3D when they were still cheap and being produced until around spring of this year but you missed that so might as well get the cheapest 5700X you can find instead.
>>107695080>a 3600 will hold the 5060ti back a bit*depending on game, resolution, settings, etc.these blanket statements are always so asseven a 750 ti won't hold back a 9800x3d in stellaris at 1440p for example
>>107695028Yeah I use my desktop as a seedbox for private trackers, so i'm fine paying a premium for fans I can just leave running 24/7/365 for the next decade and not have to worry about it.
>>107695098i dont do that but i still pimped out the fans in my current build with all noctua because just like a good case good fans will last multiple builds. I'm going to make another pc at some point after all. Even in 30 years, I'll still be using a PC, no matter how much cloudniggers try to destroy it.
>>107695092>My extreme usecase scenarios mean generally applicable advice is irrelevant
>>107695129playing newslop at max settings is an extreme usecase90% of people are playing oldslopand of the ones playing new shit, less than 0.001% are games journalists, for which max settings are only intended to take pretty screenshots for articles with, not actually play the game on.
>>107695020used an msi b850m-a for about a week and it had everything i wanted on it, only had to return it though since there was a bent pin right out the box
