>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use casesState BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8>CPUGaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500FWorkstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand *Prices have increased for LGA 1700 processors, only worth considering if discounted or if reusing DDR4. New DDR5 builds should be AM5 or LGA1851>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67TIM: MX-7, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet*Most listings online are not actually 7950>RAMDDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700) Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)>SSD (Keep firmware updated)Budget: SN7100, NM790High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)Premium: SN8100https://borecraft.com/>GPUBudget: Arc B580, 9060xt-Used: 2080, 2080ti*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080pMidrange: 5060ti 16GB, 5070-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)4k : 5070ti, 9070xt-Native/High-end: 5090>PSUBuying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITOR1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X71440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED)4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)
>News & RumorsMemory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027RTX 50 Super, 2026 launch? Potentially cancelled, likely q3 if still being releasedNova Lake 2026Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"Micron consumer memory and storage (Crucial) is no moreNvidia reducing production of 50 series gpus next year (https://overclock3d.net/news/gpu-displays/nvidia-plans-heavy-cuts-to-gpu-supply-in-early-2026/)>PSU Reviewshttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplieshttps://www.lttlabs.com/https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-suppliesFor tier-list enjoyers:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/>Storage Reviews https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSDhttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews>Monitor Hunter https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/ >Other helpful LinksMobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PCGerman autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.Pic:>>107708534>>107708467Previous:>>107706857
well this is the *real* /pcbg/ but it might get quashed as a duplicate, which kind of sucks.
Based tranny jannies have spokenThis is the real pcbg thread
TROON DOWN I REPEAT TROON DOWN
>>107709143well now, the pozzed thread got deleted.>delightful!it matters not one whit which CPU or GPU you buy so long as you have fun with your /pcbg/ machine
Why did the other thread get deleted?
>>107709165>>107709170you lost
>>107709157kek>>107709165ok now really kek>>107709170there is an anon claim-jumping /pcbg/ threads for /pol/ reasons, it has been the source of much amusement. now then, what questions do you have for the /bards/ who dwell here?
>>107709177>implyingRetard
>>107709170I would like to think they did it because the other is a troon brand war op, but more than likely they just choose at random which got deleted.
>>107709186wtf am i looking at even, is that a nigger rigged aio?
holy based janny >>107709054I didn't choose to >>107709068can't, I get killed >>107709089sounds good but i wonder for how long will i have to work a minimum wage job to be able to make a meaningful investment >>107709103why do you think so >>107709122im gonna try to keep myself well informed to have some foresight on what could make me some decent money, but I still need to find a way to get a good amount of money without wasting half my life or getting killed in the process
>>107709183oh nvm it was the reverse copypastamy bad lmao
Hi /pcbg/I’m finalizing the parts list for my first build and would appreciate some insight from people who know more than I do.https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zKCv89Budget is $3500. I live in the US, not within driving distance of a Microcenter. Primarily for gaming (though I care much more about performance than ray tracing), video editing, and streaming. I’m aiming for 1440p.A couple key concerns of mine are the PSU and airflow. I want to make sure my PC will never draw more power than mu PSU can supply, but I think I’ve gone overboard with the one I’ve chosen. I’m also much more comfortable with air cooling than liquid cooling - I’ve never used a liquid cooler before and am concerned about maintainence costs, which is why I’ve elected to go with air cooling, but I’m worried about the fans I’ve selected being either poor value or ineffective for the components I’ve selected.I’d also like to ask for advice on choosing a case. Looks are secondary to airflow for me. I’m currently torn between the Meshify 2 and Torrent, but I’m open to recommendations, especially if they perform better.Thank you, sorry for any stupidity
Thanks to the anon who told me nothing to worry about. Flashed bios and swapped the cpu and it just works, although putting the cooler back was a pain in the ass. What is the strongest GPU this platform can handle without much bottleneck?
>>107709186
>>107709203Up to a 5080 would be fine. Hell people were using am4 x3d cpus with 4090s and were fine.
>>107709165LMFAO
>Deleted the b8 in this thread tooWhatever janny is on right now is so based
>>107709196well you are in Mexico and you have apparently good English skills, maybe you can find work in tech where having those skills can help you, even if its just grinding helpdesk calls.
Checking Amazon I found 64gb 4800mhz c40 green kit orderable for 215€No ship dateSo it's still possible to find
Niconicobtfo!
im having real legitimate issues with my nvidia gpu rn but i am afraid to ask help because of nicotroons fake posts so ig no one will believe
>>107709208Alright, I'll see if I can get a 5070ti then, plenty of 5070 at or below mrsp but 5070ti prices still high.
Hi /pcbg/I am wondering which gpu to go with my Ryzen 7 5700X3D. My local shop has5060Ti 16gb at $550 to $6899060XT 16gb at $420 to $499
>>107709221will try but being a highschool dropout hinders me way too much but I'll make it no matter what, not to sounds super dramatic but I feel like being poor and miserable slowly eats at your soul and I won't be able to take it from much longer
>>107709235No way
>>107709241Both cards will perform similarly the 5060TI is a bit stronger and you might want to have nvidia's support but it should only be about 80 or $ more expensive than a similarly tiered 9060xt not 130$5060ti 16gb in the USA ordered by pricehttps://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=593&sort=price&page=1&P=17179869184,515396075529060xt in the USA ordered by pricehttps://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=596&sort=price&P=17179869184,51539607552Check those to find the models your local shop is selling and find out if either of them is a better deal. However they seem to be sensibly more expensive than just amazon
>>107709235better reinstall windowsddu driversreplace thermal paste with a phase change padundervolt with msi afterburnerthen finally decide you have enough money to upgrade to a 5070 ti before prices go way out of control
>25">1440p>high refresh rate>mini-LEDAnything better than this innocn that isn't either OLED or significantly more expensive?
>>107709252>>107709261my issue btw is the ugly black part of the power connector is ruining my trans rights themed buildThe T in RTX stands for trans deal with it Radeon chuds
>>107709241Rough.What would a 5070 or 9070 cost you?I guess on the 5060ti vs 9060xt you would have to weigh out how much you want framegen/dlss/pathtracing (borderline on a 5060ti but still so far doable) and any other currently available/future nvidia exclusive feature.5060ti is usually a little bit faster too.
>>107709198>are the PSUi'm running a 9950X3D and a 5070 on a CoolerMaster V750, you're fine with your PSU choice even if it is overkilli also never thought i'd do liquid cooling but i went with a Arctic LF Pro III 360 in an Asus AP201 case (which is mATX not ATX) and it's as cool and quiet as can be for daily driving and less noisy than air cooling under load. personally i hate glass cases so i love the full mesh of the AP201, and with the AIO cooler and the full mesh case i need only one additional fan for some intake air to cool the RAM.Noctua fans are good but you do pay for the name, i'm sure other anons can suggest different brands (I did use Noctua for my intake fan).
>>107709267Sometimes I think about going to war against everybody at the same time, but then I go back to scrolling my phone, cause I start to get sad when I think about how bored I'd be when I win.
>>107709198>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zKCv891000w psu would be overkill for that setup, 1200w if you want more headroom. Check for cybernetics a rating or higherAvoid asrock for am5 they still haven't found the reason their boards are killing cpus.Probably want an aio over air cooler for a 16 core cpuNon-x3d cpus want 6000mhz ram, 5200 is too slow.You should be able to get within your budget9950x3db850/x870 from anyone but asrock1000w psuAio
>>107709229Isn't that the character who constantly gets btfo'd in the anime too? Makes sense why Amdtroon would be drawn to her
>>107709267you can get white mesh wire loom for your glowie
>>107709286
>>107709286you lost
>>107709198>>107709271>>107709278
>>107709241>>107709253>>107709270
>>107709296anon, you're super smart, how did you fall for a nicofaggot falseflag post like this
>>107709297now show us what happens with a non-X3D cpu, anon
>>107709297errr you know the 5080 overclocks like demon too, right?
>>107709297>no rt, ptLOL!
>>107709308i care not one whit about things like gender and though i think glowie fishtanks are disgusting i also DGAF what anons do>what if some /noob/ wanders in here with the same question, now we have provided them with a solution they can use for their /faggotry/
i want to upgrade my 2600x to a 5700x3d and the new cpu just got here. how do i do it without wrecking anything i got this pc used i dont know how this shit works
>>107709330I can barely understand you zoomers but I know your heart is in the right place so keep up the good work!
>>107709314GeForce cards need the best gaming cpu possible due to the driver overhead to even have a chance.
>>107709334the cooler can be stuck to the cpu try rotating it to soften the thermal paste and shimmy it sideways so it doesnt rip the cpu out with the cooler
>>107709338yu yu hakusho
>>107709334don't bend pins
>>107709338don't you ever call me a zoomer again you little shit>i'm a 61 year old grandpa
>be poor>research parts I need to upgrade>save up for a decent mobo, cpu, and ssd>first ever hardware replacement>goddamn terrified of shocking my pc>if it goes bad I lose my only reason to live>I will almost certainly slip into another deep depression and consider suicide>every time I get ready to replace the parts I get sick and sometimes puke>no companies or people around to help replace parts>I have an anti-static mat, grounding bracelet, and know the technique of touching the PSU>still can't get over anxiety>new parts have been sitting in shelf for over 6 months nowAny ideas on how to stem the tide of anxiety when I do this?It's completely illogical. I'm almost certainly safe from something that's relatively rare.Probably more of a therapy question than a pc building one. But surely someone here has a clue or could reassure me.
>>107709341please cite the written technical materials you use to back up this claim.>it's just more anti-nvidia butthurt dripping out of your cloaca, amdshillanon, we see right through you. >you're just mad because your >>107706893 adulterated thread got deleted.
Getting buyers regret (5060ti 16gb) after learning how shit 1080p truly is But realistically more powerful cards are out of my budget because the jump in prize to the 5070 is too much and it only has 12 gigs of vram, and the jump in prize for a 5070 ti or a 5080 is so much worse
>>107709357Anon. It's adult legos. Everything that's supposed to fit fits and everything that isnt supposed to fit won't fit. You are 1000% fine as long as you aren't a careless gorilla nigger. Take your time. Watch video guides if you have to. Everything will be fine.>>107709347MB OG I was not familiar with your game
>>107709357ehhh... no risk, no fun
>>107709357Seek help, in all seriousness stressing over something like this to the point of inhibition is mental/neurological.You seriously WILL NOT destroy pc components with static in 2025.
>>107709370>>107709373>>107709374that is another copy pasted nicofaggot post, pls stop being retarded you guys
>>107709374Ive built pcs on carpet and ive never used a mat or a wristband. Linusracemixingtips made a video about static effects on pc parts and how comically hard you have to try actively to kill anything with static. Look it up it'll make you feel better.
>>107709379
>>107709369>1080pThankfully for you the 5060ti is a totally reasonable 1440p card>>107709357Please fuck off
>>107709297>No RT, PTIsn't this game like 6 years old? It can't max it?
>>107709374>WILL NOTanon that is absolutely the stupidest thing to tell people. i >>107709347 have been doing this for decades and i practice ESD safety when i'm cleaning or assembling my PC or working on any electronics.look up latent failure caused by ESD. it's very real and it costs companies real money. the failure can happen even years after the static shock has damaged a component.the anon who is freaking out at least has the sense to know about it and you should too.
>>107709406They recently added path tracing to cybertroon because people were getting too much fps and they needed to render current gen gpus obsolete so njudea could sell newer shit.
>>107709413So, no?
>>107709379>stop being retardedcan't help it - i was born this way
>>107709357Well you're not using them anyway so even if you break them what changes? Kudding, I feel you, I hate being poor too
>>107709125I missed the drama, why did the other thread get deleted?
>>107709357Oh and it's completely logical btw, because you don't have income so a loss is felt as definitive
>>107709409That's nice, I'm still going to keep building the way I have been since I was a wee lad and rawdog it. I'm not as old as you but I'm still too old to change.Never had an outsized issue with component failures while never heeding the existence of static.
Given the current gen of AMD cards can't do Raytracing, aren't they gonna age like shit as the tech becomes the standard?
>>107709431because>>107709180>there is an anon claim-jumping /pcbg/ threads for /pol/ reasons, it has been the source of much amusement. now then, what questions do you have for the /bards/ who dwell here?
>>107709427low-key cute, too bad you're not a girl
>>107709441You know how 90% of players on steam are playing 10+ year old games?Yeah.In 10 years 90% of gamers will be playing 20+ year old games.
What mobo+ram to get for 9800x3d? Not really too familiar with current-day AMD stuff since the last time I used AMD was on an old early 2000's prebuilt
>>107709441>https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.htmlthese are the last consumer GPUs ever released. AyyMD and Jewivdia aren't going to bother anymore, it's so joever
>>107709426uhh, jannies????
>mfw my 5070ti still has bad drivers and crashing on every new game that comes out for a month straight until the Al coding the GeForce drivers manages to fix it.
>>107709439ja most people don't understand the real problem which is not zapping something and having it fail at that moment, but instead zapping something just enough to bugger it but not enough to make it instantly fail, then later (or maybe never!) the part fails and you have no idea wat happen.>i had to sign off on a training that explained it all to me in tremendous and horribly boring detail, an hour of reading i won't get back
>>107709448So people buy new AMD cards so they can play old games?
>>107709446if i was i'd be a wrinkly old granny
>>107709396Okay I don't feel so bad anymore, dlss will probably save my ass, but now I gotta buy a 1440p monitor kek What if just make the jump to a 4k monitor and play in windowed mode? My grandpa >>107709347 recommend it last thread and it doesn't sound bad at all, will probably save me money by not buying a 1440p monitor and then swapping to a 4k one
>>107709462There's a good chance a few of my component failures happened because of it, but still. I still average years between these events so I'm unbothered. Fortunately I'm not building servers and mainframes or I might have to care.
>>107709441>Given the current gen of AMD cards can't do RaytracingStop lying faggot. Over 100 benchmarks conducted a lot of them with RT and Daniel Owen found no advantage for 5070 ti over 9070 XT in raytracing
>>107709474>hat if just make the jump to a 4k monitor and play in windowed mode?Sure that works, dlss set to performance and being realistic with game settings works even better though.>>107709484>traces a path in you're pathWhat now?
>>107709474answered in the last thread, y u no read?>>107708527
>>107709484Why are there 1080p and non-RT titles here? That's just diluting the results into being meaningless.
Hell ESD isnt even the worst thing to happen to one of my pcs. I had an event where I spilled water into an open case pc while it was running, I saw a spark in the back of the gpu and immediately unplugged the machine and left it for a few days to dry. The machine booted fine and continued working flawlessly for the next 4 years when I upgraded. Kek.
>>107709484>We took a huge shit in one sandwich. >But the other 99 sandwiches were fine. >So there's only a 1% difference in taste of these sandwichesDo you want a sandwich anon?
I just now realized though, where i live humidity is around 80-100% at all times + I cant remember the last time I got shocked by static so odds are the climate just makes it a moot issue for me. Frankly the humidity has probably killed more of my shit.
>>107709516I live in such a place too. Thankfully the air conditioner when turned on drops the humidity to the mid 60%
>>107709484>no advantage for 5070 ti over 9070 XT in raytracing**where supported>amd is always almost there, one step behind each year>now intel and others join the chat>all want to feast on the market juggernaut that nvidia has becomewhatever. have fun with your /pcbg/.
>>107709488But I did, that's why I mentioned it in this thread and I even replied with "okay" I just wanted to hear more anons' opinions but looks like grandpa has godtier takes
>>107709484Rtx50 is still significantly faster in pathtracing doe
>Another episode of adding a girl from 4chan on discord and then they mentioning they wanna cosplay x character after some days Last time this happened it went like shit for reasons you wouldn't be able to imagine
>>107709525yes but did you imagine shitposting in 4k like i said?do you have a store nearby where you can go and look monitors to see the differences in the display tech?
I have never even played a game with raytracing much less pathtracing. When AMD catches up again I am sure Nvidia will release Rivertracing or something to pull ahead again. And I will still just be over here vibing on Eve Online which only recently added the cutting edge technology that is FSR 1.0 and volumetric particle clouds. Kek
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>>107709546>yes but did you imagine shitposting in 4k like i said?No I didn't imagine it until now, it must be kind of amazing now that I think about it >do you have a store nearby where you can go and look monitors to see the differences in the display tech?Kinda, but I'll only take a look like you're probably implying, I've got the feeling the prices will be horrible compared to buying online
Reminder that FSR 3.1 and non AI based upscalers could have worked, just look at Ghost of Tsushima, FSR 3.1 works great in that game. But developers like CD Project Red were bribed by Nvidia to purposely botch the implementation of it in their games by giving it bad inputs resulting in it sometimes giving worse image quality than FSR 2.
>>107709562I guess over time I will memorize every copy pasta and learn to mentally filter it out
>>107709562So basically he does all these reposts to make the thread hit bump limit faster so he can have a chance at hijacking the next OP huh
>>107709578Most of them start with "hey pcbg" or something like that, assuming that's the keyword he uses to find posts on the archive.
>>107709472that can be very cute too
>>107709580YupThough he spams his own threads pretty often too, so who really knows why
https://x.com/benitoz/status/2005349615823183897NVIDIA WON
>>107709580bingo.>can be paid shill>can be an org with slave labor>can be lone schizoid>could even.be.you.all it does is pollute this place for /pol/ reasons.
>>107709599neat stuff, you think for computex?https://www.guru3d.com/story/nvidia-feynman-gpus-rumored-to-add-stacked-sram-for-ai-workloads/>feynman was a based nutjob that loved to party
>>107709601Why anthropomorphize a repeat lines of text and images.Theres organizations that are interested in forcing 4chan and other internet places to use accs that are easily tracked. Saying "he" or "a schizo" dont make sense. Either the website is sold to someone that makes spam impossible with their greater resources, or the website continues to be unusuable since the spammer has tools to make it so
I was about to go with the 9070xt because I never cared about gay tracing(never looked that much better when using it on the 3070), but after seeing path tracing I'm conflicted.
>>107709334check if your bios needs to be updated to support the new CPU first.
The straw that broke the camel's back
>>107709629nigga i have no expectation of privacy anywhere on teh innernets nor do i give a fuck about it>i just want to /pcbg/
I dropped the fucking CPU.
>>107709659Grandpa, it's 4am, we can /pcbg/ tomorrow, let's call it a day
>>107709635>path tracing I'm conflictedIt's pretty good. Anyone who actually has used it on a reasonably powerful gpu will tell you the same thingNot so many games yet but there's at least 4? actual releases lined up for next year including re9I think 2027/2028 we'll start seeing it in almost every game like we see now with regular rt.Check this out too :https://www.patreon.com/posts/gta-iv-rtx-remix-142516297>>107709659>nigga i have no expectation of privacy anywhere on teh innernetssmart, because you have none>>107709677Stop drinking so much
I just got back from emptying my sinuses and throat of mucus into a garbage bag and only vomited twice. My head hurts and one of my eyes is bloodshot but I can breathe and my throat doesnt feel stuffed with horsecock for once. What'd I miss?
the asus prime radeon rx 9070 xt gaming oc is not a good graphics cardjust my opinion haha, don't take it too seriously(warning for sensitive readers)
>>107709696>I just got back from emptying my sinuses and throat of mucus into a garbage bagHow do I do this, my nose often feels clogged and my voice is kinda nasal
>>107709677if it's LGA it's most likely fine, unless you dropped it on the socket and bent those pins.
>>107709704what is that opinion based on
>>107709710Lots of heaving and violent loogie hocking and coughing and sneezing and occasionally accidentally puking from the sheer sustained effort of trying to bring up mucus. It's not easy or fun or fast.
>>107709735On facts
>>107709735thread is clean for nowhe will be back once he figures out how to rotate the IP on his phone
https://www.servethehome.com/cheap-10gbe-realtek-rtl8127-nic-review/Cheap 10GbE or 10Gbase-T has arrived with the Realtek RTL8127. Oftentimes, users have had to choose between the Marvell AQC107 and AQC113 families for low-cost 10Gbase-T or several used enterprise NICs from Broadcom and Intel. The data center NICs tend to have more capabilities and offloads, but power consumption is higher, and new pricing can easily be five times higher. Now, with the Realtek RTL8127, we have a 10Gbase-T solution that is already producing under $50 new NICs, which only use a PCIe Gen4 x1 lane and sip power at sub 2W for the chip and sub 3-4W for the board. Cheap 10Gbase-T is now attainable.WE ARE SO BACK, 10Gbase-T /g/
>>107709740Damn anon I'm sorry you have to go through that >>107709770If he lives in a third world country like me where most IPS give you a dynamic IP by default it won't be long until he ban evades
>>107709791if he's too problematic he will just get range banned
>>107709704>>107709735taichi is the bestprime sucks
>>107709785>CPU usage downloading at 1gbit with RTL8125>10%>CPU usage downloading at 1gbit with I226-V>0.5%thanks but i'll stick with intel>>107709791he lives in edmonton, canadaso he's competing with barneyfag for clean IPs(this website produces so many wonderful people)
>>107709696The flu or something?>>107709791The amd schizo is Canadian >>107709770Like 5 of his posts were deleted over and and a half, probably was cycling and is now temp range banned.>>107709798Do they even do that anymore?
>>107709821ye it's still a thing for problem users, the old place where I lived was range banned at one point for like half a year.
Do you guys think that maybe by 2050 we'll have powerful enough graphics cards that will make it so developers can stop using shit like TAA, motion blur and upscalers so games can run and look properly? Because let's be honest I'm pretty sure developers won't go the optimization route so we need more raw power
>>107709830It will be a miracle if we can even survive until 2028.
>>107709817>so he's competing with barneyfag for clean IPsKEK
>>107709830Why would they give up software that gives them free performance to cut down on optimisations needed? Were already seeing a ton of new games requiring dlss and fg to hit 60fps with hardware that should be doing 120fps at those settings
>>107709803aren't all these temps just fine regardless though
>>107709830More powerful hardware will just be a green light to lower the bar even further so we are running just as badly again.
>>107709830lmao noeverything will be vibe coded and the rendering will be 90% AI
>>107709684>It's pretty good. Anyone who actually has used it on a reasonably powerful gpu will tell you the same thingI like me some Cyberpunk 2077 and I've seen and heard people talk about how it is. I haven't even played it for a while but I'm wanting a 5070ti just for the path tracing and replaying it then. I'm not sure what else supports it, but so far it's only one game and it makes me wonder if I should bother shelling out the extra money just for it. Yeah other games might support it eventually, but the amount of new games I want to play become less and less. Well, AAA games at least which I imagine will be the ones that support it.That GTA IV mod looks interesting too.
>>107709830At this rate I'm thinking by 2050 you'll just have to subscribe to something to play vidya so it won't matter. Sure technically there might be GPUs powerful enough to do that, but it won't matter to us because we won't be buying them.
>>107709857it seems really difficult for studios to do path tracing or insert rays into the lighting system unless the team is some super technically experienced/the unreal 5 does it automatically for themthey cant even manage HDR right.
>>107709857>the amount of new games I want to play become less and less. Well, AAA games at leastbased gaming enjoyerwhen i see people say gaming today is worse i want to hit them. we have more amazing games than we've ever had. yeah the new fifa and black ops aren't good, but there's SO many good indie and AA games, and even some good AAA here and there.
>budget build with used components >install windows 11 on it >sell it for cost of components plus a little more >repeat the process but install the same copy of windows on it to profit more Would this work
>>107709884>the same copy of windows on itjust activate it with HWIDbut no i don't think it would work. for one you won't be able to get any ram.
>>107709844you want zero rpm mode on and most cards activate theres at 50-55c. above that and that it starts ramping on and off.
>>107709884you're just starting a business as a system integrator but without the economies of scale and a bit of piracy
>>107709857>I'm not sure what else supports itIndiana Jones, Doom the dark ages, wukong, Alan Wake (not to the same level as the others), FBC Firebreak, Minecraft, RTX remix mods https://www.moddb.com/rtx
>>107709225nobody care everyone seething still?64gb in other kits is fyi 740€ currently
>>107709872Is path tracing a new technique? If so I'll assume it's going to take a bit before studios and everyone else gets well acquainted with it.>>107709876Some people just like to complain or be pessimistic. Then you try to show them games like Look Outside or Silksong and then they'll just bitch about how it's not AAA graphics or some shit. They especially bitch if it's a more autistic/niche game. Anyway, the point is I don't really need to be able to do path tracing for those obviously.>>107709918Minecraft got path tracing? I'll have to look at that link.
>>107709990Path tracing is the oldest form of Ray tracing and has a much higher performance cost and image quality than the hybrid RT scam that's marketed as RTX
>>107709990>Is path tracing a new technique?Path tracing in games wasnt a thing until 2018 when 20xx gpus came out.Before that it was used in games to bake textures which took hours depending on the scene, and movies ofc.The issue implementing it is consoles cant do it so the monetary incentive question is "do we get airtime on digital foundry videos to compensate the dev time?". Works for cp and aw2, but most dont bother.
>>107709924nobody wants 4800 c40 ram
>>107710097It could always be Hynix m-die if anons lucky
got the havn bf360 flow for 20% off and it's barely worth the money imo. not sure why ever reviewer is racing about it so much. It's a nice case but not the build quality monster everyone claims
How would you improve this
>build PC after a long time>first start red dram led comes on>bios hits you with ftpm/psp nv corruptedbravo gigabyte. normal but still retarded imo
>>107710113Those are probably Micron chips.
>>107710181says that anytime you update bios or put in a new cpu
>>107710097beggars can't be choosers32gb 6000c30 for 500€ or 64gb 4800c40 for 210€?or 750€ for the 64gb 6000c30only if you are running intel would you want 8000mhzpoozen x3d what does it matter if you are running jedec with no optimizationliteral minimal percentage wise if at allram is a meme (with big cache)>>107710113>>107710186https://res.cloudinary.com/integral/image/upload/v1705405941/SPEC/DRAM/IN5T32GNHRBXK2.pdf
>>107710164i'd start with a holy water deep clean
>>107710164black wallpaper, dump the cooming device, throw away the food packaging and plastics, clean the keyboard and store away everything on the table that's not immediately needed
>>107710164More monitors above the other monitors. One or two more PCs. A few tablets on arms running gacha games.
>>107710186>made in the USAmicron's good
>>107709125>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj5v52R4qnk16gb ram is literally all you need
sorry gamers this is our ram now
>>107710284They can't do latency as good
>ai market crashes >giant ai centers are converted to cloud based ram services >$5/month for 32gb cloud ram Would you do it?
>>107710345Local NVME pagefile would be faster than sending your packets across multiple datacenters
>>107710412AI could predict what to send and send it before you even request
>>107710422The cache prefetchers in your CPU do the same thing. That's why everyone buys X3D.
I bought a 9070xt from Amazon Warehouse but every game, no exception, crashes when Raytracing is so much as turned on in the settings.The Performance and efficiency uplift from my 7800xt are nice, but if a game has raytracing in the menu (eg. FM23) it will not event boot into the menu and crash before I can default graphics into no raytracing.Cannot find anything online about people having this problem. Only for specific games.Have been installing older Drivers and turning off/uninstalling applications like MSI Afterburner and the like but it won't help.Sapphire tells me to just return the card to Amazon, but I bought it for 590€ and prices are at 660€ for a new one.Also usedsfc /scannowDISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealthDISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /ScanHealthDISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealthAm pondering about taking out all SSDs and trying it on a fresh install without killing my current running system, but I am no so sure it is worth it.Have you heard/read about a similar issuen or have any troubleshooting tips? The new captcha is filtering me hard, what the fuck
>>107710502when you boughted radeon
>>107710524elaborate
>>107710502The gpu is probably a lemon. Is there no possibility of direct rma with the manufacturer in the EU? At least for most of the world, that option is almost always available.
>>107710556radeon users when they find out about the shitty amd drivers and poor raytracing
>>107710626but the 7800xt worked fine and I never had issues with it. >>107710577Sapphire says, ask amazon Amazon says, it's warehouse. So I either keep the card and get a reimbursement of 15% or return the card and get everything.
>>107709125nvidia has a huge smoking problem
I'm on an old R9 390X from 10 years ago whoch served me very well, but it's time for an upgrade.Anything wrong with a 5060 ti 16GB?I'm playing on 1080p 120hz, the gpu will be paired with my i5-11400, a B560 mobo and 16GB RAM. I know my mobo only supports PCIe 4.0, all the newer cars are 5.0 though; that's why I want to get a 16GB model to reduce the impact on the slower PCIe-link.I'm willing to spend up to 450€.I've only had AMD cards in the past, but I do a lot of work with Adobe products and especially 10bit color things, and AMD has been tricky with that every now and then. I hear NVIDIA deal well with these things, but any input on this in general?Thanks.
>>107710668>but the 7800xt worked fine and I never had issues with it.lucky for you, not so much for the others that did experience issues with drivers. inferior RT support for radeon cards is to be expected though, not mentioning inferior card lifespan, lack of DLSS 4 and CUDA and ...>>107710848they even have it colored yellow to assist you in plugging it in properly, apparently people still mess it up. honestly blaming the user is stupid, nvidia should've never used that connector.
>>107710884It should be derated to 300W to have the same safety margin as the 8-pin pcie connector and 5090s should have two of them as standard. Anything less and its a fire hazard.
>>107710502if it crashes during furmark its psu related. the gpu doesnt clock high during furmark it just hits power cap.
over 6 hours later... I'm still not finished...I should've bought pre-built.
>>107710884he would have the same issue on nvidia
about to get a 5070Timy card needs either a 12pin or 2 6pins for the adapter. anyone any experience how bad the adapter is? or should I get an extra 12 pin cable?
>>107711030get a 9070xt double/triple 8-pin instead
>>107711008>>107710848>tfw 9070XT Hellhoundi am so glad i don't have to go through this shit cable for atleast one whole gen
>>107711030yea you should use a native 12vhpwr cable. even those 12vhpwr on the gpu to 2/3-pin on the psu type of cables are fine.adapters are bad because its hard to get them to balance their current draw
>>1077110682/3x 8-pin*
