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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D
-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500F
Workstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D

*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5
*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand
*Prices have increased for Raptor Lake processors, only worth considering if discounted or if reusing DDR4. New DDR5 builds should be AM5 or LGA1851

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-7, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet
*Most listings online are not actually 7950

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt
-Used: 2080, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p

Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)

4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-Native/High-end: 5090

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)
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>News & Rumors
Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027
RTX 50 Super, 2026 launch? Potentially cancelled, likely q3 if still being released
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"
Micron consumer memory and storage (Crucial) is no more
Nvidia reducing production of 50 series gpus next year (https://overclock3d.net/news/gpu-displays/nvidia-plans-heavy-cuts-to-gpu-supply-in-early-2026/)

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/


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Got mine
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It's hard to justify the jump from 5070ti to 5080 vs price increase. It's like either you get the 5070ti or you forget about budgeting and get the 5090
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>>107724119
just a bad rumor, the bubble will pop in two weeks
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>>107724116
I went with 5070ti specifically to avoid housefires for 10% more performance at 20% higher power draw. Price difference between mid tier 5080 and MSI or ASUS 5070ti is negligible.
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>>107724116
>>107724158
both those gpus suck they have massive QC issues and software problems with drivers
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$1650 with no tax, yea or nay? For gaming at 1440p/ultra. I don’t think i could build this cheaper.
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>>107724226
Its really good. Go for it
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>>107724226
geddit
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>>107724226
>9070XT
Wouldn't even take that housefire generator for free, desu.
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>>107724116
The 5070 Ti is more of a 5080 Lite than a 5070 Ti.
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>>107724064
get a TKL keyboard bro
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>>107724226
i have basically this set-up with a 7600x and a 1 tb drive
it's cost me a little under 1400 to build since i started
last time you're gonna see prices this good, i would jump on it
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>>107724195
Yes but I'm still not buying AMD and 4080 is impossible to find here
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>>107724306
my shit is faster than a 5080
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>>107724226
Sounds good
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>>107724226
run, don't walk
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>>107724314
Worthless post desu
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>>107724226
component bundles from retailers even here have been cheaper than buying things separate
shit there was even a whole 9800x3d build for the cost of a 5090 that included a 5090 that got buyed up quick before I even had time to check it
would unironically have buyed too
it was close to me too but over before I chekd
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I think this amazon advertising might be slightly misleading.
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well bros, i went and bought the 9070 xt
my credit card won't be happy, but i'm getting a full time job this year anyway. plus i won't get interest on that purchase for 6 months
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>>107724341
what nigga? some folks put anime figs in their builds
some of us put anvils in ours
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Fuck Nvidia but i dont have a fucking choice anymore
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>>107724354
mine gets here on friday :>
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I need a 240Hz monitor with very low minimum brightness and low input lag for purposes of being a good fit for my drawing tablet.
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I've got 48GB RAM that I want me to last until hopefully ~2030.
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>>107724226
How much is it after tax? This looks basically perfect for most people. I'm surprised iBuyPower shot straight for once as opposed to throwing.
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>>107724116
OC'd 5070 Ti can be roughly equal to a stock 5080. The OC headroom is pretty decent unlike with the 9070 XT that comes almost maxed from factory. Get an ASUS model or something else decent and you're set. Or it should be according to my research, I just ordered mine, take with a grain of salt.
Of course if you buy above MSRP the value goes down the shitter. 5080 is just bad value in comparison even at MSRP.

>>107724158
>Price difference between mid tier 5080 and MSI or ASUS 5070ti is negligible.
The cheapest 5080 goes for $1200 USD, meanwhile you still can get the 5070 Ti for $750-810. I don't think we have the same definition of negligible.
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>>107724403
There is no tax, $1650 out the door. I just bought it.
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>>107724423
based
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>>107724226
>9800X3D $450
>9070 XT $650
>SSD $230
>random mobo $150
Those components alone are $1480 without even factoring in RAM. Seems good from that standpoint.
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>>107724420
Damn I bought a 9070xt
Why everyday is there more and more info that makes me heavily regret my purchase of this thing.
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>>107724436
>9070 XT $650
what
where
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What pre built should I get, I've been browsing for awhile and with the price jumps going on I'm think of finally picking something up. I've checked some sites like new egg and I'm not too sure what them, I'll probably avoid them. Mostly gaming a small handful of modern games, the new RoboCop at max settings would be the jumping off point
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Watch this, when im gonna buy RTX 5070 ti 16gb tomorrow, next week the fat fuck Jensen Huang gonna announce RTX 6070 ti 32gb with same price
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>>107724466
>with same price
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>>107724277

cannot larp business with TKL
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>>107724437
I would buy that if I didn't care about CUDA and only cared about games, you save $50-150 and just werks. I also hear AMD has better Linux support in general and you will want to migrate there if you haven't yet. Some say the power consumption of the AMD GPUs is bad and there is almost no room for OC unlike with the 5070Ti though. You can get 9070XT without the 12VHP connector unlike with NVIDIA so that can be a plus if you're concerned about it.

>>107724455
Amazon had the ASUS Prime OC for sale still last night when I saw. But most models are now at $700 or above indeed.
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>>107724466
CES is next week and Nvidia don't give a shit man
they're going to take a shitton of Blackwell racks and maybe start hyping up Rubin
Nvidia just >bought Groq (not Grok), their main concern is killing any company hoping to make their own AI ASICs
As for Geforce, well they are trying to buy the same AI shit so they can train DLSS 5
There will be no 6090 until DLSS 5 is ready
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>>107724420
In EU it's 1000 euro for 5080 or 850-900 for 5070ti. Shit tier pny does for 760 ish.
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is 5060ti 16gb a massive upgrade over GTX 1080 ? 128bit memory bus is what turned me off
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>>107724513
bigly
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>>107724513
on paper yes but it sure as shit won't feel like one
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>>107724455
Microcenter.
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this man sold you out for some political pussy and you still buy his broken products
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>>107724530
>ideological radeon crusade at nye
no one cares lil bro
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>>107724553
he's so poor a viewer had to send him a nvidia gpu
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God i misses that retard trying to blow dust out of his pc by reversing a vacuum cleaner. I bet he fucked his shit up with static electricity doing that
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>>107724570
>that he had to pay for
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>>107724064
>PNY

Poorfag
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>>107724513
non TI, yes.
if it's TI, ehhh it's like a 3060 vs a 5060 TI (like 1.5x better, but it's probably 2-3x more FPS because you got the ancient GPU debuff on new games).
I would egg you to buy the framework 32gb AMD AI max 385 for $800 (it did not get a price increase).
BUT... the 8050s it's 30% worse than the 5060 TI 16gb. But it's worth it if you have a shit CPU that needs an upgrade (BUT not worth it if you have money for a 5070 or 9070). And I think the amd AI max is cooler if it was in a handheld or laptop (but the price is starting like $2000).
But soldered ram, no FSR 4, shitty pcie port (if you plug a GPU into it, you could add a GPU, but it)
And the $800 price does not include a PSU, case, nvme, and 120mm fan.
But it's 100 watts which is neat so it's probably one of the most quiet PCs out there, and 32gb of fast quad channel ram is good (a 9800x3d is better though).
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>>107724423
Hell yeah, I'm very jealous right now.
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>>107724526
>closest micro center to me is a 3 hour drive
fuck
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>>107724116
I bought the 5080 before the 5070 ti released so that's my excuse
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>>107724608
Mines 50 minutes but I have to drive through the worst parts of Denver on my way
I'd rather give Amazon my money and not get shanked
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>>107724608
I'm pretty lucky, it's ~12-15 minutes for me.

Though I still ended up buying this 5070 last night instead.
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>>107724604
>but it)
But the PCIE port needs a sketchy adapter since it's 8x and does not have a cut out edge on it.
I dont know how you would put the GPU into the case if you used an adapter, maybe it's really cheap and simple, I have not looked into it.
also forgot the link:
https://frame.work/products/framework-desktop-mainboard-amd-ryzen-ai-max-300-series?v=FRAFMK0002
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>>107724633
to be fair mine's 2 hours
and you know
a 1 hour border queue and a border hop
but still, i'd be spending what i save on gas and stopping at in n out
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>>107724568
This but with the xx60
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>>107724647
>8x
*4x
it's still good enough for a 4090/5090 if you look at occulink / m.2 egpu setups. the 16x lanes is important if you had like an AI training server and you had a ConnectX 80GB fiber optic cable or something and you wanted to load AI models faster than a nvme SSD.
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>3,5 5070 Ti's or ONE (1) singular 5090
56gb vram vs 32gb vram
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>>107724640
>5070
Roughly same performance as the 3090 but with half the memory and 2/3 the bandwidth. Not bad if you're happy with it. The 9070XT is still a nobrainer for gaming at that price though (just $60 more).
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>>107724608
better than a $1000 flight
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>>107724693
DLSS is going to be more relevant than ever going forward, and I personally swore off AMD after bad experiences with their drivers in the back in the 4000-7000 series timeframe.

Also I enjoy ray tracing in a few games (cyberpunk/GTAO).
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>>107724693
God just imagine if the gtx 970 was on par with a 2 gens old flagship gtx 480, it would be a tragedy, now that's just normal.

Buy one gpu every 10 years.
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Would you recommend a 9060 XT coming from a 3060?
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How big of a problem is it to have two GPUs in one case with no space between them? Kinda worried about putting my 5090 in the top spot and can't find a good riser solution
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>>107724775
Yes but only if 16GB
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>>107724604
non TI is like 8gb
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>>107724755
>Buy one gpu every 10 years.
you think the new connector not gonna FRY before that..
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I currently have a 3070, with all the news about the new cards being terrible. Should I pull the trigger and get a 5070 Ti? or just wait for the 60 series and see how that goes
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>>107724715
But I thought AMD finally attained feature parity with Redstone and had less issues than RTX 5000 series?
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>>107724715
Not anon, but I am a terminal waitfag that won't buy new hardware until my shit stops working or I find a amazing GPU like a 3080 for less than $100 on facebook marketplace.
But I switched from leaning nvidia to AMD because I always thought that Nvidia is better on both windows and linux, but it turns out that nvidia is lacking on linux VR, and it seems like there is attention being made for gamer extensions / features on linux (mostly the bare minimum for server GPU stuff), both AMD and Nvidia neglect linux, you won't see Adrenalin or full NVCP on linux, but I see more progress on amd honestly, I don't see a good future for linux on nvidia.
I ain't buying VR yet, my 1660 ti can't handle it. But I am leaning towards linux (former win 7 refugee till 2019, used linux mint for a year or 2, then back to windows 11 because firefox was more buggier than win7) and I have not updated windows 11 for like 2 years (it's very comfy as it is), but if windows somehow forces an update / I need to reinstall, I might switch back to linux.
It's actually crazy, after a decade I have never seen AMD do anything better than nvidia except maybe undercutting nvidia by 10-20%, but linux VR? that's the first time I've actually seen amd not being absolutely worthless.
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>>107724800
amazing how nvidia became the highest market cap corporation on earth and the result was worse products than when they were an irrelevant midcap tech company.
capitalism is a lie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn02Me-ytCM
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>>107724466
Relax. There won't be any new consumer gpu till Q2 or Q3 2026. They are too occupied with supplying gpus to GAY I DATACENTERS
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>>107724816
>ayymd does not have a full bandwidth true dp2.1
brutal
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>>107724800
>or just wait for the 60 series and see how that goes
If you can wait 2 more years. They still can't get the Super refresh out the door if ever. And if the current situation continues or worsens by late 2028/early 2029 when the next generation comes out then I'd expect much higher MSRP and scalped prices than today.
I pulled the trigger since if I will buy it anyway by then next year the prices will be at least $100 more and for the shittiest model.
If you're happy with what you got I would wait, but what I have is a 3060 and I'm not happy with it.
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>>107724568
Get a used rtx 3060 12 gig at that point. 5050 is literally 8 gig gddr6. Starting from 5060 it is gddr7.
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i've had a RTX 2080S for a long time now

can I HODL or is it time to panic upgrade?
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>>107724816
AMD is always a step behind, since they started later. Redstone still isn't as good as DLSS4 and is fully utilized in a singular game. If you want features AMD isn't for you. NVIDIA driver started shaky but is mostly fixed. While AMD stabilized somewhat making them pretty equal at this point.
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>>107724775
I think you'll notice the pretty big downgrade in quality of life going from Nvidia to AMD's drivers and software.
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>>107724920
Nvidia is always a step behind, since they started later. New Driver Branch still isn't as good as RADV or AMDs Windows Driver and Nvidia isnt fully utilized in a singular game. If you want a working GPU Nvidia isn't for you. NVIDIA driver started shaky but is still not fixed. While AMD stabilized somewhat making them pretty equal at this point.
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>NVIDIA GPUs have 1 HDMI and 3 DP
>AMD GPUs have 2 HDMI and 2 DP
>most decent monitors that aren't $1k+ have HDMI 2.1a but only have DP 1.4a with DSC shit
>TVs only have HDMI
>HDMI on Linux
>NVIDIA Linux support
AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE
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>>107724921
I am pretty sure you'll notice right away how Nvidia GPU doesn't work when your PC doesn't POST at first due to PCIE5 bios issues and your 12vhpwr melts later.
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>>107724904
You play latest UE 5 slop? Then yeah you need to move over to 4xxx or 5xxx. Do you play old shit? Your card is perfectly capable. Ps 2xxx supers have very high bandwidth and quite a lot more tmu and rops
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Stop recommending broken as fuck RTX gpus.
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>>107724938
I dont get why they are still so afraid of DP 2.1a. I thought they fixed the cable length issues?
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>>107724921
How so? Sorry, I'm a techlet, I just want to play videogayms...
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>>107724949
>if it isn't supported on Linux it's broken!

FOSS life
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>>107724921
I don't know I just went from a 2080 super to a 9070xt. The little settings preloading thing isn't there and the AMD version of Nvidia broadcast isn't as nice, but that's about it. I do primarily use Linux, and only use Windows for the games that require it though. AMD support is miles ahead of Nvidia on Linux, if you're willing to take the penguin pill. I assume you're talking Windows drivers though.

>>107724904
It's a big upgrade if you're running higher resolutions, but I don't think it's 100% necessary. Eventually the AI bubble will pop, but who knows when.
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>>107724978
Always
More
Disappointments
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>>107724949
Any charts from the current generation?
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>>107724940
https://www.techpowerup.com/344543/sapphire-amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt-nitro-melts-connector-after-almost-a-year-in-use
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>>107724978
Like I said in my post >>107724999 I don't think you'll have that bad of a time. Hell, there were some pretty major stability issues in recent Nvidia drivers as well, which is really all I think you should care about.

>>107725020
That connector is just cursed. You can, and should, get GPUs with normal 8 pin connectors. My 9070 XT just has 3 of those instead of that thing.
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>>107724755
1070 was basically equal to a 980ti
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the internet is not taking the news of the 5090 costing $5000 USD very well
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>>107724858
AMD fucked me with their R9 380
Nvidia deserves it's position
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>>107725052
>Average waitfag finding out the GPU price rise people have been talking about for months is actually happening.
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>>107725072
AMD fucked me with the 4870X2.
Never again.
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I am now in 2026
happy new years
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>>107724854
I am looking at the Steam Frame if it's actually good, open, and hopefully affordable, as my first VR headset. I really hope NVIDIA picks up since I'm likey not buying a new GPU after this any time soon.
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Seems like GPUs took the RAM price rises personally
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>I am now in 2026
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>>107725075
Months? Ram shortage started in late September. It was only ram sticks back then, but it started affecting phones, gpus and laptops just few weeks ago max
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>>107725133
>There's no way these GPUs, which also have memory chips in them are going to go up in price due to a memory chip shortage.
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PS 5 DECADES
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>>107725167
yeah the only reason prices have maintained so far is the existence of backstock which is of course moving slower now that people are building fewer pcs
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>>107725167
I didn't say that but people weren't expecting gpu prices go up to this extent. Nvidia fumbled the bag by ceasing production of 5000 series models but money is king so gotta chase the Ai wave
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>>107724354

>buying consumer electronics on credit

Come on anon.At least make sure to pay it off before those six months end.
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I built my first gaming pc in like 10 years in march.
I know prices were not great even then but man I feel like I dodged a massive bullet.
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>>107725211
nice anon. I'm not so lucky.
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>>107725211
Same, but 7 years here.
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>>107725167
Ok Jay.
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>>107725211
If its not an AM5 rig you didn't dodge shit. Everyone will get shafted by the new prices, nobody is safe



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