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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D
-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500F
Workstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D

*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5
*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand
*Prices have increased for Raptor Lake processors, only worth considering if discounted or if reusing DDR4. New DDR5 builds should be AM5 or LGA1851

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-7, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet
*Most listings online are not actually 7950

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt
-Used: 2080, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p

Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)

4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-Native/High-end: 5090

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)
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>News & Rumors
Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027
RTX 50 Super, 2026 launch? Potentially cancelled, likely q3 if still being released
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"
Micron consumer memory and storage (Crucial) is no more
Nvidia reducing production of 50 series gpus next year (https://overclock3d.net/news/gpu-displays/nvidia-plans-heavy-cuts-to-gpu-supply-in-early-2026/)

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/


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Got mine
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It's hard to justify the jump from 5070ti to 5080 vs price increase. It's like either you get the 5070ti or you forget about budgeting and get the 5090
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>>107724119
just a bad rumor, the bubble will pop in two weeks
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>>107724116
I went with 5070ti specifically to avoid housefires for 10% more performance at 20% higher power draw. Price difference between mid tier 5080 and MSI or ASUS 5070ti is negligible.
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>>107724116
>>107724158
both those gpus suck they have massive QC issues and software problems with drivers
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$1650 with no tax, yea or nay? For gaming at 1440p/ultra. I don’t think i could build this cheaper.
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>>107724226
Its really good. Go for it
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>>107724226
geddit
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>>107724226
>9070XT
Wouldn't even take that housefire generator for free, desu.
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>>107724116
The 5070 Ti is more of a 5080 Lite than a 5070 Ti.
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>>107724064
get a TKL keyboard bro
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>>107724226
i have basically this set-up with a 7600x and a 1 tb drive
it's cost me a little under 1400 to build since i started
last time you're gonna see prices this good, i would jump on it
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>>107724195
Yes but I'm still not buying AMD and 4080 is impossible to find here
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>>107724306
my shit is faster than a 5080
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>>107724226
Sounds good
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>>107724226
run, don't walk
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>>107724314
Worthless post desu
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>>107724226
component bundles from retailers even here have been cheaper than buying things separate
shit there was even a whole 9800x3d build for the cost of a 5090 that included a 5090 that got buyed up quick before I even had time to check it
would unironically have buyed too
it was close to me too but over before I chekd
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I think this amazon advertising might be slightly misleading.
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well bros, i went and bought the 9070 xt
my credit card won't be happy, but i'm getting a full time job this year anyway. plus i won't get interest on that purchase for 6 months
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>>107724341
what nigga? some folks put anime figs in their builds
some of us put anvils in ours
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Fuck Nvidia but i dont have a fucking choice anymore
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>>107724354
mine gets here on friday :>
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I need a 240Hz monitor with very low minimum brightness and low input lag for purposes of being a good fit for my drawing tablet.
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I've got 48GB RAM that I want me to last until hopefully ~2030.
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>>107724226
How much is it after tax? This looks basically perfect for most people. I'm surprised iBuyPower shot straight for once as opposed to throwing.
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>>107724116
OC'd 5070 Ti can be roughly equal to a stock 5080. The OC headroom is pretty decent unlike with the 9070 XT that comes almost maxed from factory. Get an ASUS model or something else decent and you're set. Or it should be according to my research, I just ordered mine, take with a grain of salt.
Of course if you buy above MSRP the value goes down the shitter. 5080 is just bad value in comparison even at MSRP.

>>107724158
>Price difference between mid tier 5080 and MSI or ASUS 5070ti is negligible.
The cheapest 5080 goes for $1200 USD, meanwhile you still can get the 5070 Ti for $750-810. I don't think we have the same definition of negligible.
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>>107724403
There is no tax, $1650 out the door. I just bought it.
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>>107724423
based
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>>107724226
>9800X3D $450
>9070 XT $650
>SSD $230
>random mobo $150
Those components alone are $1480 without even factoring in RAM. Seems good from that standpoint.
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>>107724420
Damn I bought a 9070xt
Why everyday is there more and more info that makes me heavily regret my purchase of this thing.
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>>107724436
>9070 XT $650
what
where
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What pre built should I get, I've been browsing for awhile and with the price jumps going on I'm think of finally picking something up. I've checked some sites like new egg and I'm not too sure what them, I'll probably avoid them. Mostly gaming a small handful of modern games, the new RoboCop at max settings would be the jumping off point
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Watch this, when im gonna buy RTX 5070 ti 16gb tomorrow, next week the fat fuck Jensen Huang gonna announce RTX 6070 ti 32gb with same price
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>>107724466
>with same price
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>>107724277

cannot larp business with TKL
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>>107724437
I would buy that if I didn't care about CUDA and only cared about games, you save $50-150 and just werks. I also hear AMD has better Linux support in general and you will want to migrate there if you haven't yet. Some say the power consumption of the AMD GPUs is bad and there is almost no room for OC unlike with the 5070Ti though. You can get 9070XT without the 12VHP connector unlike with NVIDIA so that can be a plus if you're concerned about it.

>>107724455
Amazon had the ASUS Prime OC for sale still last night when I saw. But most models are now at $700 or above indeed.
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>>107724466
CES is next week and Nvidia don't give a shit man
they're going to take a shitton of Blackwell racks and maybe start hyping up Rubin
Nvidia just >bought Groq (not Grok), their main concern is killing any company hoping to make their own AI ASICs
As for Geforce, well they are trying to buy the same AI shit so they can train DLSS 5
There will be no 6090 until DLSS 5 is ready
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>>107724420
In EU it's 1000 euro for 5080 or 850-900 for 5070ti. Shit tier pny does for 760 ish.
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is 5060ti 16gb a massive upgrade over GTX 1080 ? 128bit memory bus is what turned me off
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>>107724513
bigly
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>>107724513
on paper yes but it sure as shit won't feel like one
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>>107724455
Microcenter.
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this man sold you out for some political pussy and you still buy his broken products
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>>107724530
>ideological radeon crusade at nye
no one cares lil bro
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>>107724553
he's so poor a viewer had to send him a nvidia gpu
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God i misses that retard trying to blow dust out of his pc by reversing a vacuum cleaner. I bet he fucked his shit up with static electricity doing that
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>>107724570
>that he had to pay for
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>>107724064
>PNY

Poorfag
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>>107724513
non TI, yes.
if it's TI, ehhh it's like a 3060 vs a 5060 TI (like 1.5x better, but it's probably 2-3x more FPS because you got the ancient GPU debuff on new games).
I would egg you to buy the framework 32gb AMD AI max 385 for $800 (it did not get a price increase).
BUT... the 8050s it's 30% worse than the 5060 TI 16gb. But it's worth it if you have a shit CPU that needs an upgrade (BUT not worth it if you have money for a 5070 or 9070). And I think the amd AI max is cooler if it was in a handheld or laptop (but the price is starting like $2000).
But soldered ram, no FSR 4, shitty pcie port (if you plug a GPU into it, you could add a GPU, but it)
And the $800 price does not include a PSU, case, nvme, and 120mm fan.
But it's 100 watts which is neat so it's probably one of the most quiet PCs out there, and 32gb of fast quad channel ram is good (a 9800x3d is better though).
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>>107724423
Hell yeah, I'm very jealous right now.
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>>107724526
>closest micro center to me is a 3 hour drive
fuck
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>>107724116
I bought the 5080 before the 5070 ti released so that's my excuse
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>>107724608
Mines 50 minutes but I have to drive through the worst parts of Denver on my way
I'd rather give Amazon my money and not get shanked
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>>107724608
I'm pretty lucky, it's ~12-15 minutes for me.

Though I still ended up buying this 5070 last night instead.
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>>107724604
>but it)
But the PCIE port needs a sketchy adapter since it's 8x and does not have a cut out edge on it.
I dont know how you would put the GPU into the case if you used an adapter, maybe it's really cheap and simple, I have not looked into it.
also forgot the link:
https://frame.work/products/framework-desktop-mainboard-amd-ryzen-ai-max-300-series?v=FRAFMK0002
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>>107724633
to be fair mine's 2 hours
and you know
a 1 hour border queue and a border hop
but still, i'd be spending what i save on gas and stopping at in n out
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>>107724568
This but with the xx60
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>>107724647
>8x
*4x
it's still good enough for a 4090/5090 if you look at occulink / m.2 egpu setups. the 16x lanes is important if you had like an AI training server and you had a ConnectX 80GB fiber optic cable or something and you wanted to load AI models faster than a nvme SSD.
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>3,5 5070 Ti's or ONE (1) singular 5090
56gb vram vs 32gb vram
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>>107724640
>5070
Roughly same performance as the 3090 but with half the memory and 2/3 the bandwidth. Not bad if you're happy with it. The 9070XT is still a nobrainer for gaming at that price though (just $60 more).
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>>107724608
better than a $1000 flight
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>>107724693
DLSS is going to be more relevant than ever going forward, and I personally swore off AMD after bad experiences with their drivers in the back in the 4000-7000 series timeframe.

Also I enjoy ray tracing in a few games (cyberpunk/GTAO).
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>>107724693
God just imagine if the gtx 970 was on par with a 2 gens old flagship gtx 480, it would be a tragedy, now that's just normal.

Buy one gpu every 10 years.
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Would you recommend a 9060 XT coming from a 3060?
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How big of a problem is it to have two GPUs in one case with no space between them? Kinda worried about putting my 5090 in the top spot and can't find a good riser solution
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>>107724775
Yes but only if 16GB
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>>107724604
non TI is like 8gb
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>>107724755
>Buy one gpu every 10 years.
you think the new connector not gonna FRY before that..
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I currently have a 3070, with all the news about the new cards being terrible. Should I pull the trigger and get a 5070 Ti? or just wait for the 60 series and see how that goes
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>>107724715
But I thought AMD finally attained feature parity with Redstone and had less issues than RTX 5000 series?
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>>107724715
Not anon, but I am a terminal waitfag that won't buy new hardware until my shit stops working or I find a amazing GPU like a 3080 for less than $100 on facebook marketplace.
But I switched from leaning nvidia to AMD because I always thought that Nvidia is better on both windows and linux, but it turns out that nvidia is lacking on linux VR, and it seems like there is attention being made for gamer extensions / features on linux (mostly the bare minimum for server GPU stuff), both AMD and Nvidia neglect linux, you won't see Adrenalin or full NVCP on linux, but I see more progress on amd honestly, I don't see a good future for linux on nvidia.
I ain't buying VR yet, my 1660 ti can't handle it. But I am leaning towards linux (former win 7 refugee till 2019, used linux mint for a year or 2, then back to windows 11 because firefox was more buggier than win7) and I have not updated windows 11 for like 2 years (it's very comfy as it is), but if windows somehow forces an update / I need to reinstall, I might switch back to linux.
It's actually crazy, after a decade I have never seen AMD do anything better than nvidia except maybe undercutting nvidia by 10-20%, but linux VR? that's the first time I've actually seen amd not being absolutely worthless.
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>>107724800
amazing how nvidia became the highest market cap corporation on earth and the result was worse products than when they were an irrelevant midcap tech company.
capitalism is a lie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn02Me-ytCM
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>>107724466
Relax. There won't be any new consumer gpu till Q2 or Q3 2026. They are too occupied with supplying gpus to GAY I DATACENTERS
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>>107724816
>ayymd does not have a full bandwidth true dp2.1
brutal
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>>107724800
>or just wait for the 60 series and see how that goes
If you can wait 2 more years. They still can't get the Super refresh out the door if ever. And if the current situation continues or worsens by late 2028/early 2029 when the next generation comes out then I'd expect much higher MSRP and scalped prices than today.
I pulled the trigger since if I will buy it anyway by then next year the prices will be at least $100 more and for the shittiest model.
If you're happy with what you got I would wait, but what I have is a 3060 and I'm not happy with it.
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>>107724568
Get a used rtx 3060 12 gig at that point. 5050 is literally 8 gig gddr6. Starting from 5060 it is gddr7.
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i've had a RTX 2080S for a long time now

can I HODL or is it time to panic upgrade?
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>>107724816
AMD is always a step behind, since they started later. Redstone still isn't as good as DLSS4 and is fully utilized in a singular game. If you want features AMD isn't for you. NVIDIA driver started shaky but is mostly fixed. While AMD stabilized somewhat making them pretty equal at this point.
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>>107724775
I think you'll notice the pretty big downgrade in quality of life going from Nvidia to AMD's drivers and software.
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>>107724920
Nvidia is always a step behind, since they started later. New Driver Branch still isn't as good as RADV or AMDs Windows Driver and Nvidia isnt fully utilized in a singular game. If you want a working GPU Nvidia isn't for you. NVIDIA driver started shaky but is still not fixed. While AMD stabilized somewhat making them pretty equal at this point.
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>NVIDIA GPUs have 1 HDMI and 3 DP
>AMD GPUs have 2 HDMI and 2 DP
>most decent monitors that aren't $1k+ have HDMI 2.1a but only have DP 1.4a with DSC shit
>TVs only have HDMI
>HDMI on Linux
>NVIDIA Linux support
AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE
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>>107724921
I am pretty sure you'll notice right away how Nvidia GPU doesn't work when your PC doesn't POST at first due to PCIE5 bios issues and your 12vhpwr melts later.
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>>107724904
You play latest UE 5 slop? Then yeah you need to move over to 4xxx or 5xxx. Do you play old shit? Your card is perfectly capable. Ps 2xxx supers have very high bandwidth and quite a lot more tmu and rops
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Stop recommending broken as fuck RTX gpus.
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>>107724938
I dont get why they are still so afraid of DP 2.1a. I thought they fixed the cable length issues?
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>>107724921
How so? Sorry, I'm a techlet, I just want to play videogayms...
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>>107724949
>if it isn't supported on Linux it's broken!

FOSS life
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>>107724921
I don't know I just went from a 2080 super to a 9070xt. The little settings preloading thing isn't there and the AMD version of Nvidia broadcast isn't as nice, but that's about it. I do primarily use Linux, and only use Windows for the games that require it though. AMD support is miles ahead of Nvidia on Linux, if you're willing to take the penguin pill. I assume you're talking Windows drivers though.

>>107724904
It's a big upgrade if you're running higher resolutions, but I don't think it's 100% necessary. Eventually the AI bubble will pop, but who knows when.
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>>107724978
Always
More
Disappointments
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>>107724949
Any charts from the current generation?
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>>107724940
https://www.techpowerup.com/344543/sapphire-amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt-nitro-melts-connector-after-almost-a-year-in-use
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>>107724978
Like I said in my post >>107724999 I don't think you'll have that bad of a time. Hell, there were some pretty major stability issues in recent Nvidia drivers as well, which is really all I think you should care about.

>>107725020
That connector is just cursed. You can, and should, get GPUs with normal 8 pin connectors. My 9070 XT just has 3 of those instead of that thing.
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>>107724755
1070 was basically equal to a 980ti
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the internet is not taking the news of the 5090 costing $5000 USD very well
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>>107724858
AMD fucked me with their R9 380
Nvidia deserves it's position
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>>107725052
>Average waitfag finding out the GPU price rise people have been talking about for months is actually happening.
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>>107725072
AMD fucked me with the 4870X2.
Never again.
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I am now in 2026
happy new years
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>>107724854
I am looking at the Steam Frame if it's actually good, open, and hopefully affordable, as my first VR headset. I really hope NVIDIA picks up since I'm likey not buying a new GPU after this any time soon.
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Seems like GPUs took the RAM price rises personally
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>I am now in 2026
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>>107725075
Months? Ram shortage started in late September. It was only ram sticks back then, but it started affecting phones, gpus and laptops just few weeks ago max
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>>107725133
>There's no way these GPUs, which also have memory chips in them are going to go up in price due to a memory chip shortage.
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PS 5 DECADES
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>>107725167
yeah the only reason prices have maintained so far is the existence of backstock which is of course moving slower now that people are building fewer pcs
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>>107725167
I didn't say that but people weren't expecting gpu prices go up to this extent. Nvidia fumbled the bag by ceasing production of 5000 series models but money is king so gotta chase the Ai wave
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>>107724354

>buying consumer electronics on credit

Come on anon.At least make sure to pay it off before those six months end.
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I built my first gaming pc in like 10 years in march.
I know prices were not great even then but man I feel like I dodged a massive bullet.
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>>107725211
nice anon. I'm not so lucky.
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>>107725211
Same, but 7 years here.
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>>107725167
Ok Jay.
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>>107725211
If its not an AM5 rig you didn't dodge shit. Everyone will get shafted by the new prices, nobody is safe
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>>107725204
>but people weren't expecting gpu prices go up
Then you're a retard who gets what you fucking deserve.

I have personally been warning people for months that this shit is gonna rise. You niggas not listening is entirely on you.
But, I will say that the current situation is
>Some guy on discord said it's going to be $5K by the end of 2026.
Which is absolutely not
>THE GTX 5090 IS NOW GTX $5090!!!! YOU GET $1 PER GTX
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>>107725247
I already boughted a 2 tb nvme and an rtx 5060 brand new. I'm waiting for the stocks to dry up so I can sell everything I have for 75-80 percent profit. I already have an am5 gaming rig with an rtx 3060 12 gig. I'm chill, I have like 7-8 gpus, two complete mobo and cpu combos in my stock. I'm making 125% profit on all the gaming pcs I sell
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>GPU prices inflating
>panic everywhere

>wabt to buy but can't justify buying anything new because I don't know any games that need more than my 2060 and I don't play western AAAA slop
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>>107725275
Then don't. Get an nvme drive if you wanna invest, the 1 tb nvme I got for 89 euros is 129 euros now, just 4 weeks later. Everything will get more expensive in the coming months
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Friends, is it worth it to build a NAS? I've been really getting into building up my home network backend.
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>have RX 2060
>have 32 DDR4 3600 RAM
>pondering what difference would it make if I get
>a 5070
>and DDR5 RAM
Will it be something noticeable? Will I need a new motherboard?
Is it better to save the cash and upgrade the CPU instead?
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>>107725247
You give me one reason why the 5090 won't cost $5000 in 2026
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>>107725288
I personally use a basic bitch DAS.

NAS's seem like they're better when they're ALSO setup to do other shit (router, VPN, ad blocking, plex server).
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>>107725288
Kinda, but I basically just have one for if my Nexcloud instance on AWS goes poof. Upload speeds where I'm at are pretty terrible if I want to access it outside my network.
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>>107725306
No. The time to upgrade was two three months ago. You will get raped by ram prices. Unless if you find a really good deal on pre-built
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>>107725233
It is AM5. The ram I bought in march is already 4x the price it was.
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Are the rumors about the GPU prices increase true? If yes, what GPUs are the best to buy now to sell later for the most profit?
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>>107725412
The Asus 9060 XT 16gb I was looking at on their website has gone up from $400 to $430 just today, its happening
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>>107725406
Then yeah you're safe till 2029 at least. Maybe 2030 if you have a good gpu
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>walmart canceled my $320 4TB SN850X order
Yeah well fuck you too.
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>>107725453
i mean the same applies if you have a modern intel cpu or even a 5700x3d
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What ARBG software should I use and what fan controller should I use
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https://www.techpowerup.com/344578/leaks-predict-usd-5000-rtx-5090-gpus-in-2026-thanks-to-ai-industry-demand

It's over. Shut the thread down.
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>>107724071
arrrrgh why the gory pic, op? why?
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>>107725469
They will list it more expensive, wait and see
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>>107725469
I paid $370 for mine and now they're $410-480
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>>107724530
>>107724553
yep, fuck off with your /pol/ bullshit.
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>>107724816
they have one good midrange card in the 9070 with latest drivers. unfortunately now there are reports of amd problems on the 9070 series with the 12VHPWR on these now, too, so keep an eye on your connectors.
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>>107724940
having fun evading your /ban/, anon?
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>>107725106
Sensible chuckle. Fits perfectly.

>>107725167
>memory chip shortage
>shortage
*Price hike overnight.
There will be a shortage, besides the announced price increases, but all of that will be well into 2026.
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>>107724949
ooo, more cherry-picked benchmarks from our favorite idiot. you should stick to shilling the 9070XT
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>>107725546
There are 9070s without that connector, buy those instead. That 12VHPWR thing is cursed, bad design from the beginning.
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>>107725382
I saw them now and £350 for DDR5 32 still is manageable. The 5070 is still normal below 600.
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>>107725072
>deserves
i dunno about that.

>they earned it, sure
>but /consoomers/ should have more choices
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>>107725571
>*Price hike overnight.
You're a retard.

It's been a looming shortage for almost 6 months, a genuine shortage for 2+ months, and it's only going to get worse in 2026.

It's just other industries (SSDs, GPUs) have longer lag time between the memory modules being produced, and their finished product WITH that memory being shipped compared to RAM assemblers who might order in new memory chips, and ship them out as finished products a few days or weeks later.
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>>107725288
yes, do it, you will enjoy
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>>107725594
They were literally half the price just 4-5 months ago... I'm telling you dude, If you have disposable income go for it but the performance gains are not mind blowing. From ddr3 to DDR5 yeah but ddr4 is still perfectly capable. Even ai companies and databases decided to keep their rigs for 5 years instead of 3, the situation is that dire (and costly)
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sorry for repost from the other thread
currently have 5600x, 32gb ram and 3070. full upgrade would cost me about 2.5k (to something like 98003d and 9070xt), is it worth getting some newer card like 9060xt or 5070 for this build or would I be bottlenecked by cpu?
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>>107725584
>12VHPWR thing is cursed
yes indeed it is
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>>107725584
it's poorly engineered inside and out. n ot only is it electrically flawed, even the physical fitting of it is garbage, you have to gorilla nigger shank the connector in with 100 lbs of force to get it to fully seat. Unbelievable.
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>>107725630
Depends on what you play. UE5 slop yes you will get bottlenecked. Anything else will run smooth as butter.
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>>107725630
between 9070XT and 5070 go with the XT, or shop for a 5070TI if you are on the green team.
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Even I get the 9070xt tails I dont
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>>107725594
Forgot to say yeah you need new mobo, new cpu and new rams for a complete DDR5 rig. Like I said if you're not playing 4K or VR you do not need to fork that much money
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>>107725606
>reddit spacing
You're one retarded golem if you think the price increase of 300% over a handful days is anything but blatant kikery. This shit didn't happen over months, you could still buy RAM at normal prices in August.
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>>107725496
This is literally the 5th time they done this to an order I've made in the past month. Every single time "Oh we canceled your order for you", and then it's re-listed way higher than when I ordered.
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>>107725659
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bros... BROS!!!
Please make it stop!
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>>107725650
Im thinking of switching to linux so Im leaning towards amd. also 5070ti is stupidly overpriced in my european shithole
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>>107725670
Can't you buy it in person? Or from another shop?
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Fuck, the little gpu latch on my motherboard snapped and is dangling off
Is it ogre?
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>>107724335
>Worthless post desu
Tell me moar about your gimped memory bus on your "high end" card with 16GB's of useless vram
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>>107725676
>switching to linux
good luck with that. i ended up with a dual boot system, a lot of stuff i use can't be replaced in linux so i'm trapped in the windows ecosystem.
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>>107725630
don't upgrade if there are no games that you can't play with your current PC.
if there is a game, just measure what the bottleneck is.
I think Windows key + G has a performance overlay thing, and steam has another performance overlay thing.
If it's the CPU, it's probably better to start with the CPU if you want an immediate FPS improvement (and with GPU's you typically have a lot of tools to increase performance, such as lowering graphics settings and DLSS, not many options to improve CPU performance).
If you have a 1440p display, you likely need a GPU upgrade.
If you feel like games stutter too much, you could try to fix that. First you need a monitor with gsync, then you could limit the FPS (either through the nvidia control panel OR whatever).
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>>107725688
Yes
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>>107725688
probably not but you better check it any time you open up the system.
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>>107725630
If you play at 4K then the bottleneck is your GPU and your CPU mostly doesn't matter unless it's really that bad. If you game at lower resolutions then check actual gameplay benchmarks and compare.
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>>107725682
None of the stores within 50 miles of me have stock any more. The one I ordered was one of two at a local store. Everywhere else has it listed for $400+. Managed to snag a Gen 5 4TB drive for $320 and they've delayed that one too, but thankfully it's being fulfilled by a third party service so it's actually in transit and unlikely to be canceled.
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>>107724314
>7900 XTX
>faster than 5080
Not a bad card by no means but not even in your wildest dreams.
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>>107725629
>>107725655
I'll stay put. I am more tempted to change my 2060 with a 5070 before they go over £600.
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>>107725690
256bit seems like a pretty normal amount of bus to me. 6800/7800 xt had it. Gtx 1080, 2080, 4080, etc... why autistically fixate on something that's actually fine?
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man look how jittery the nvidia card line is
amd is smooth line
nvidia hardware & software sucks ass
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>>107725822
I was lucky enough to get a 5080 for £900.
Probably never getting that kinda luck again.
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>>107725844
>lower power draw but higher temp
shit build quality 2
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>>107725790
yes but you're replying to a disinformation post, anon. thx for pointing out some fact.

the anon doing this has an anti-Nvidia agenda and it's based on /pol/, not on /pcbg/.

>idgaf what you buy as long as you get your /pcbg/ jollies.
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>>107725629
>They were literally half the price just 4-5 months ago
If you mean RAM the price was 1/4 or less before the hikes. I could even stomach and fork a 100% price hike but not this 300%+ rubbing-hands robbery.
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What's the go-to standard 9070 XT memory OC? Got Samsung VRAM.
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>>107725846
I hate these people so much...
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>>107725844
it took amd how long to catch up to the midrange card?

>amd always one step behind
>them niggas need to get their X3D engineers in on the GPU game
>how long will they support the drivers for the 9070 series, does anyone have a link to the roadmap for that? not a great track record for amd with long term support.
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>>107725923
Maybe with Nvidia buying Intel, they'll make Nvidia CPUs
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How can anyone take intel B580 seriously when it's getting raped by a fucking 970 and 6500XT
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>>107725844
AMD avg fps is lower but it ends up feeling better anyways
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>>107725923
amd used to offer a good value but that seems to be a relic of the past. Now you pay 90% of the price for equivalent raster and no ai no path tracing second-rate raytracing less software support worse upscaling and much fewer features. Literally who is buying 9070 xt's?
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>>107725939
kek lets see how well this partnership works between them. it's not like nvidia doesn't have the spare change for a stake in intel, jensen probably didn't even blink at it.
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>>107725982
Nobody
In a couple days valve will drop new steam survey and 9070XT will still be nowhere

more people have bought 9070s and it's not a lot of people Nvidia outships AMD by 10:1
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>>107725982
People who don't want to hand all of their data to Satya Nadella.
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>>107725994
you're constantly giving your data to 100 different entities at all time, your phone records you, palantir can kill you and make a robot copy of you any time and nobody in your life would ever notice a change. How retarded to care about your gpu specifically. Like fixating on a bee stinging you while 50 jews drive daggers into you from all sides like you're Caeser.
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>>107725690
>he unironically thinks memory bus dictates gpu performance
this is the same as measuring cpu performance based on clock speed.
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Novidya drivers strike again
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>>107725982
i say a card for every /pcbg/anons use case and budget. rise up now and /consoom/, anons, for the feast is over for us and famine is now upon the land of /pcbg/.

>also 9070XT good enough for the /poors/ that build /mid/ systems
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Hello /pcbg/, so right as I'm ringing in the new year, looks like my main monitor fucking broke, the piece of shit. I've had it for 2-3 years, which I'm pretty sure is just long enough for the warranty to be gone. It is (was) an HDR1000 local dimming screen and I quite enjoyed it, but now that it's broken I guess I'm in the market for a new monitor.

I'd like some input, as far as I can see I have 2 options:
>1. Buy another local-dimming LCD screen
I was quite happy with the image quality of my now broken screen, despite some haloing. The KTC in OP is <500EUR which seems quite affordable to me, plus it has better specs so it should look even nicer. Mostly it has like 2x the dimming zones which should mean the haloing will be even less noticeable.
>2. Buy OLED
I can afford an OLED screen even though they're like 2x the price of the KTC, but I'm like 99% sure I'll rape it into the ground with burn-in. I work from home and use the PC for leisure / personal projects too. It is not uncommon for the PC to be in use for over 12h a day, lots of that time with static UIs displayed for extended periods of time, especially when I work but also when I play games like Factorio or strategy stuff with prominent UIs. I am also a stickler for details and the kind of guy who WILL notice burn-in and if that happens in like under 5 years I will 100% be angry because I hate products which do not last.
I am also worried about shit like text fringing and apparent variable refresh rate flicker, those are also the kinds of things I would notice. Basically I know OLED is widely celebrated for image quality but I'm afraid my use case will completely ass-blast such a screen in under a year.

Also, the screen needs to be 27" (this is perfect for my viewing distance) and 4k with at least 120Hz refresh rate, no matter the type.

Please, any advice on what to get?
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>>107726031
The new tandem OLED don't have burn in issues
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>>107726017
kek that idiot was trying to run a 20 year old game and you know it

>so you never did answer the question about like are you working as a slave on a bot farm or getting paid or just a lone shizo somewhere?
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>>107726031
I found the KTC in OP extremely underwhelming (especially the dimming zones) coming from older nano IPS, but maybe your mileage will vary
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>hear ratling
>think a wire is smackin a fan again
>hit the case a few times
>doesn't stop
>open er up
>check wires, everythings find
>put pressure on every fan with my finger
>finally put finger on cpu fan
>rattling stops
I can't afford a $30 fan on this economy.
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>>107726017
Jensen said 640kb of vram ought to be enough for anybody. Works on my machine.
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>>107726053
not anon, and didn't do any research on LG's latest thing, but how is that possible? voltage-induced pixel degradation is inherent to the technology



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