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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D
-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500F
Workstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D

*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5
*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand
*Prices have increased for Raptor Lake processors, only worth considering if discounted or if reusing DDR4. New DDR5 builds should be AM5 or LGA1851

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-7, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet
*Most listings online are not actually 7950

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt
-Used: 2080, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p

Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)

4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-Native/High-end: 5090

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)
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>News & Rumors
Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027
RTX 50 Super, 2026 launch? Potentially cancelled, likely q3 if still being released
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"
Micron consumer memory and storage (Crucial) is no more
Nvidia reducing production of 50 series gpus next year (https://overclock3d.net/news/gpu-displays/nvidia-plans-heavy-cuts-to-gpu-supply-in-early-2026/)

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/


Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.

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My New Year's Resolution? 1440p.
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Honest this wh
>>107727357
Shut the fuck up everyone made that joke already
Anyways, honestly this whole situation is kinda fun it's like we're in a tech apocalypse preparing our nuclear bunker and huddling together watching how things play out
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>he's still on DDR4
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>>107727272
>Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.)
Might want to change that to 2x24GB soon.

64GB might be a luxury even for entry level workstations (didnt think i'd be saying that in 2026).
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>>107727357
Same, 1440p 240hz gaming resolution and 4k 60hz media resolution for another year.

Hopefully in 2027 Asus or someone will start shipping the new 42" TCL RGB OLED panels for under $1k then i can upgrade to 4k120+hz for my 2027 resolution.
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How do you not be smug when you told niggahs they needed to upgrade in june?
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>>107727272
this photo was taken in 2004
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>>107727274
ooh yeah, front-page resistor bodge
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>>107727426
Can't be, it's a UEFI BIOS, so has to be ~2011 or later.
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>>107727357
Same
>>107727368
buzzkill
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Why the fuck is the 5080 rog astral more then 300 dollars more then the tuf version? Is it just premium brand tax?
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My dog died and my new PC brings me no joy. Life is empty and pointless. Good night.
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>>107727272
holy shit that greasy ass lens..
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>>107727461
I didn't realize speccy got updated again for (somewhat) modern hardware. Still abandonware though.
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>>107727476
>no cpu name
is speccy maintained by the userbenchmark guy
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https://www.amazon.ca/Heatsink-Internal-Expansion-Compatible-MZ-V9P4T0CW/dp/B0CHHFR1LG

Asking again, any thoughts on the 990 Pro 4TB with a heatsink? 380 leafbux or 280USD.
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>>107727517
>leafbux
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>>107727486
Yeah that's why I said (somewhat) modern hardware. Its trying its best.
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>can't decide on a gpu
>they're starting to go up
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My New Year's Resolution?
64GB DDR5 RAM
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>>107727546
32gb VRAM with less than $700
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>>107727546
I already did that a few months ago
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Should i give in for 5070ti 16gb, bros ? Because The price is like 1,2 times my monthly salary.
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>>107727554
Do you need it?
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>>107727554
God no you can't afford gaming, stick to your phone until you have a better job. Card should be MAX 1/5th your monthly salary post-tax.
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>>107727554
do you game that much to need such an expensive gpu? do you have months/years of savings to buffer the huge expenditure?
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someone was just firing off a semi-auto gun in the distance in the midst of all the fireworks.. did they think it would blend in?
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anon who bought the 9800x3d/9070xt prebuilt for $1650 last thread here

thanks for the advice to go ahead, just gamed with some bros and it was good. thing is dead silent and I am seeing pixels i've never seen before. A worthy upgrade to my i7-11700/2080ti.
ripping some classic tunes now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx3DlA4YggQ

happy new years
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>>107727566
holy shit thats a good idea
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>>107727560
>>107727563
>>107727564

- I dont gaming that much anymore
- I do AIslop when im horny but my old ass card is struggling with it ( it took 10 minutes to warm up. 5 minutes every single 1500x1500 image (illoustrious))
- Im 30% convinced 5000 series is the last consumer card Nvidia ever make because they are AI company now. Not Gaming, not even Workstation
- That strong rumors of GPU price hike by 200%
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>>107727575
5060ti 16gb is good enough for aisloppa
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>>107727587
>5060ti 16gb is good enough for aisloppa
It's really not, even the 5070 fucking destroys it.
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>>107727568
You spent $1650 on a $800 PC? lol
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I almost got a fucking heart attack, but my PC finally booted after shorting my CMOS. I accidentally pulled off the thing that secures my GPU, but I hope that won't fuck things up...
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>>107727575
Instead of looking at porn you should be looking at getting a better job.
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>>107727612
I have a house
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>>107727542
5070Ti makes the most sense, alternatively 5080 if you can find one at MSRP or 5090 if you need it also for graphic design work and AI slop or something.
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Windows 11 is a slow, spyware infested abomination from hell.
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>>107727670
>spyware infested
Elaborate?
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>>107727670
Works on my machine.
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>>107727693
works but not too fast
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>>107727720
Works fast on my machine.
I didn't delete anything so I didn't delete anything important.
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>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qC2Gv4
Is it too early to upgrade this? What would you focus on replacing next?
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>>107727736
Probably a 5070ti or 9070xt before those skyrocket in price
Everything else is fine
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>>107727736
it's 1 gen old dude just use it
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>>107727730
but still wastes resources because of shifty UI
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>>107727736
I would panic buy a 5090 and 64GB or ram.
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And so it begins.
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>>107727736
GPU if you want to & HDDs are the only things that make sense right now, you can buff up your CPU but honestly no point.
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Ok im minutes away from pulling the trigger and buying this build. What do you guys think? Will it last me through the neo-tech apocalypse, for at least the next 7-10 years? Or am I doomed to remain in the feudal slave class forever?

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor
CPU COOLER: Noctua NH-U12A chromax.black 60.09 CFM CPU Cooler
MOTHERBOARD: MSI MPG X670E CARBON WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard
MEMORY: Corsair Vengeance 96 GB (2 x 48 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
STORAGE: Western Digital WD Blue SN5000 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
STORAGE: Western Digital WD Red Pro 26 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive
STORAGE: Western Digital WD Red Pro 26 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive
GPU: PowerColor Hellhound OC Radeon RX 9070 XT 16 GB Video Card
CASE: Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO XL ATX Full Tower Case
PSU: Lian Li EDGE 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
SPEAKERS: M-Audio BX5 D2 140 W Speakers

I mainly play video games but like to dabble in video editing to make anime AMVS/HMVS and PMVs. Will the 9070 XT be enough? or should I splurge for a 5070 ti? If so, which one? I dont want a shit connector.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/77rs6Q
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>>107727763
FUG
looks like im gonna have to grab an xbox ally x before those get marked up too
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>>107727792
the connector isn't a problem at the wattage of a 5070ti. its only problematic if you're going over 350W for long durations of time
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all that great gear but a shitty psu
https://hwbusters.com/psus/fsp-hydro-ti-pro-1000w-psu-review/
or
pic related since i cant link it
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5800X; 32GB DDR4; 3080 10GB. I game a middling amount but like generating AI slop and playing with the newest toys. Was considering waiting for a possible 50x0 Super announcement in Q1 on the offchance they'd be 24GB on the 5070TI/5080 price scale instead of the 5090 price scale, but on balance I think that's unlikely and it's far more likely these price hike rumours are true (and extremely likely they're at least directionally true). Makes sense to jump to 5070TI today (->5080 is +32% and ->5090 a further +127%, and 40x0 disappeared ages ago)? I'm assuming yes. FWIW I'm very price insensitive and can also probably class a lot of this as pre-tax.
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>>107727830
supers got delayed to Q3 2026 so you're gonna have to give up on those
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>>107727842
>supers got delayed to Q3 2026
Or cancelled. With the new info of massive price hikes supers might not be a thing this edition.
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>>107727842
yeah okay, I think I'd given up regardless even if they were to launch q1, my options being sit tight or buy something literally today. The other question I forgot to ask - all 50 series manufacturers basically indistinguishable? seems that way. The only metric I care about is fan noise and likelihood of coil whine, sounds like MSI has marginally louder fans but that's it
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Is there a specific model/manufacturer 5070 ti you recommend the most? I know XFX and PowerColor make the most reliable AMD GPUs but dont know who the equivalent are for NVIDIA.

>>107727828
Fuck I already bought the Lian Li. Should I return it and get this instead?
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I wouldn't count on a super or 60 series, at this point nvidia has already cast gamers out of their minds.
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>>107727856
msi's ventus is terrible and should be avoided but their gaming trio, vanguard and suprim are among the quiestest air cooled cards
other manufacturers like pny, palit and gigabyte once again seem to have the least amount of coil whine while asus has louder coil whine as usual. msi tends to be similar to asus in this regard so ymmv
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>>107727862
if you're getting the cheapest 5070ti models, pny makes good cards
i'd personally recommend getting gigabyte's gaming oc since their 4090 and 5090 cards that I owned were fairly good with coil whine, temps and noise
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>>107727862
if its easy to return then yes get the seasonic at woot
dont take my word
https://www.guru3d.com/review/seasonic-vertex-gx-1000-100w-atx30-psu-review/page-8/
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>tfw you upgraded
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look, even factory refurbished you can resell the parts
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>>107727792
>am I doomed to remain in the feudal slave class forever?
No matter what, that's the case.
>Will it last me through the neo-tech apocalypse, for at least the next 7-10 years?
At least 5-7 sure, beyond that who can say
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>bought a 5060 Ti instead of a 5070 because it had a $100 difference

Did I mess up? Is this gonna be able to play games until 2027?
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>>107727929
yes
no but it is better at ai sloppa
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>>107727887
Price is no concern to me. I want the best 5070 TI / 9070 xt money can buy since in my eyes, the only TRULY superior GPU for gaming is the 5090 and im not paying a used Honda Civic SI for a space heater.

>>107727891
Okay Im convinced, I'll buy the Seasonic. Is woot a trustworthy site?Might as well splurge for the 1200W for future proofing, right?
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>>107727792
Holy fuck I'm so glad I upgraded before this shitshow.
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>buy 2x32GB 6000 CL30 G.Skill RAM back in September
>280 bucks
>decide that “wait for better gen” is for idiots
>RAM prices proceed to skyrocket into orbit
>waitfags coping and seething
>they’ll never see that price again in their lifetime
>meanwhile my system just keeps winning
Get rekt losers lmao
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>>107727940
5080 is better and more efficient and falling for the "it's just 10% more fps!" is a mistake.
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>>107727940
the problem with the best 5070ti's is that they approach the 5080 in pricing and it'd just be better to spend slightly more for a base 5080 than overpay for a fancy 5070ti
if you want close to the best in terms of noise & temps, get an asus tuf or msi gaming trio. i'd recommend not overpaying for a strix 5070ti or suprim 5070ti since you could get a pny 5080 instead for slightly more
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>>107727956
Pny has a bad reputation. The difference between the cheapest 5070 ti and 5080 is 300 euros. That's not worth it for 10 more fps. Just wait for the supers
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>>107727792
>Lian Li EDGE 1000 W 80+ Platinum
Heads up fellow HDD hoarder, large 20TB+ drives generally require you to use a PSU with SATA 3.3 cables that don't put power on pin 3 (PWDIS). I don't think this lian li unit uses SATA 3.3 cables, they're likely just standard consumer cables.

I know Seasonic units often do.
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>>107727969
supers arent coming lmao
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>>107727947
Maybe, but paying $1200+ for 16gb of VRAM is extreme levels of cuckold that even a vintage hotwife couple wouldn't reach. I refuse to be NVIDIAD that hard

>>107727956
Damn....is a 5080 really THAT much better?.....Is a base model PNY 5080 gud enough or should I spring for the best?

>>107727969
The past couple months have shown that waitfags always lose lol. The time to buy a GPU is now IMO. Its now or never.
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>>107727979
If you can I would go for a 5080 but you do you.
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>>107727979
5080 is between 13-15% faster than a 5070ti for 33% more money. its your call.
i'd recommend getting an entry or midtier 5070ti instead
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My sister wants a PC for her kids. They're like 13.

I have this one spare. But, I was considering what little tweaks or upgrades I could do to it.

Probably not looking to change too much. Was thinking a new case, maybe replace the AIO. Not sure what to do about the drives. Don't really want to give a bunch of kids my old SSD, even wiped. But obviously, storage is a shitshow right now.
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>>107727979
5080 isn't much better. PNY has set systems on fire in the past. Enjoy paying 300€ more for 10 fps lol
>>107727975
Whatever next gen releases in 2026 is better to get than a 5080 lol
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>>107728001
Not really much else you can do on that thing without spending way too much money.
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>>107728001
If I was that age I would be running a data recovery software on your SSD to try to yoink your porn, FYI. You NEED to get a fresh drive if one of them is a boy.
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>>107727979
You have to understand that people here will cope that their card is better no matter what. Specs, price, whatever so you won't get a real answer.
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>>107728010
Yeah, it's like the best CPU I can get for this socket is like a 7700K, and it's a 1 gen leap with little to no improvement.

I'm not feeling generous enough to spend £200 on a 2080Ti, 1080Ti is fine.

>>107728012
Three of them are. So, yeah. I need to do something.
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>>107728012
I did that to my brother's girlfriend's computer which she gave me and I found plenty of her nudes with some black guy.
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>>107728035
Hello Saar!
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>>107727973
Uh oh, good catch man! This is my first PC build so IDK what the hell im doing lol. I've been lurking this general for weeks and feel now is my last chance to truly build a PC. I think I'll get this seasonic anon linked earlier, hopefully it plays nicely with the HDD's.: https://sellout.woot.com/offers/seasonic-electronics-vertex-gx-1000z

>>107727994
Ok...noted

>>107727997
What is a midtier 5070TI in your opinon? Every NVIDIA manufacturer seems to have its own quirks and flaws that makes it hard for me to determine which 5070 is truly good from bad. It kinda makes me wanna buy a 9070 XT instead since Its super easy to distinguis the best from the worst for AMD, but not a SINGLE soul has recommended the 9070 XT and that has me worried lol
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>>107728034
6700k can oc to 7700k levels, no point wasting the money
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>>107728012
>>107728035
you should be keeping that MLC drive from samsung, that can last you another decade as a boot drive
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>>107728039
9070xt is a good card but its software support outside of games is still lacking. You could go for a 9070xt if you'll just be using it for gaming 95% of the time
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>>107728001
didnt mention in >>107728056
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>>107728057
It doesn't have dlss4 so it's a bad card
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>>107728039
That will have the right SATA power cables, but be aware the ATX 3.0 version (instead of 3.1) has the 12VHPWR (older, less safe) pcie connector instead of the 12v-2x6 (newer safer) pcie connector.

It'll still PROBABLY be fine, but you know...
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>>107728060
Yeah, I was considering turning it into a precious back-up drive which I can boot from too. Put it in a little USB case.
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>tfw waitfag but I bought everything except the parts I'm waiting for next gen on
literally got everything at rock bottom prices and I get next gen upgrades like increased core count, more cache memory, and a vastly improved memory controller. I won, there's literally no downside, I even got my ram at a better price than you.
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>>107728080
>asrock
>am5
>9800X3D
This is bait right?
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>>107728091
all placeholders, waiting for next-gen CPU/GPU/motherboard, like I said, I win
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>>107728057
60% of my time is spent playing video games while the other 40% is a mix of video editing and photo editing. Nothing professional, just small projects for fun. Is the extra productivity boost from the 5070 TI worth the extra cost? Or will a 9070 XT be good enough for this use case?

>>107728073
Now im more unsure then ever lol. Can someone just spoonfeed me like a retard a good PSU that plays well with my HDD's? I'll commission art of your favorite waifu.
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I built my new PC. This was my fastest build yet.
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>>107728099
You lost, GPU VRAM will make those skyrocket in pricing too kek! Enjoy spending quadruple compared to me loser
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>>107728080
but you have to use a Radeon card... that's tuff buddy... hope things get better.
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>>107728114
you paid almost $300 for RAM, by the time my GPU launches this whole memory debacle will be behind us. You played yourself
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>>107728099
>I win
you won one
>beg scalper to sell you a 15k GPU
token, use it wisely. You can also hold it for the next 5 years, it should increase in value.
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>>107728127
>you don't need to use your cards to mine bitcoins
>your cards are the bitcoin now
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>by the time my GPU launches this whole memory debacle will be behind us.
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dont get the NVME with a heatsink, it wont work
your mobo already has built in heatsinks
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>40% is a mix of video editing and photo editing
yeah i think its best if you spring for a 5070ti.
get the msi gaming trio IMO
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What's this hwinfo pin monitoring script I keep hearing about
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>>107728125
And you will pay 3000$ for that same RAM if you'll keep waitfagging like the cuck you are kek!
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>>107727874
cheers, i paid an extra 5% and got specifically a 5070ti gigabyte gaming oc for $965 because of this guy >>107727887, time to ignore the gpu market for another 5 years
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>>107728150
I already bought the RAM at it's all time low tard, you can't even pay attention to the conversation. Enjoy your $300 RAM
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>>107728103
get anything ATX 3.1
https://hwbusters.com/quick-tips/should-i-get-an-atx-v3-1-psu-or-an-atx-v3-0-will-be-fine-everything-you-need-to-know/
anything labeled 3.x means it started probably as 3.0 but got upgraded and existing stock is intermingled over the years so ppl didnt prefer the new stock

as long as you have a ups you will be fine despite the lower hold-up time

FSP Hydro Ti PRO 1000W
is another option but you missed good sale windows
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>>107728161
>600$ for only 48GB
>Bought less RAM for double the price
Oh no no HAHAHHHAHAHAHAH
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>>107727575
Any gpu can play xvideos smooth, tf is wrong with you nigger
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>fucking everything going up in price by 300%
>computer starts blue screening
I'm so fucking done with this "hobby".
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>>107728198
It is so over for you.
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>>107728198
Why isn't your salary going up by 300%? You aren't poor or something right?
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>>107728198
if you dont play modern games i literally got cheap computers for you i can find right now
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right now 50 cal costs about as much as a 5090 build, in one month it will be cheaper
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>>107728186
oof, how embarassing, that's not how pcpp tracks prices, you have no clue what's even going on in this conversation
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>>107728235
>50 cal
Do you need to defend your home from tanks or something
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>>107728237
>600 for 48GB XD
How does it feel you paid more for less, loser cucky? You'll NEVER get my 2x32GB 600030cl for 280$
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dirt cheap HP and Dell PCs on woot right now that have no discrete graphics and are all basically DDR4 16-32GB Intel 7-9000 series CPUs

I did not find any cheap AMD/AM4 systems

wish i knew linux i bet some of those would be nice HTPCs but i am dumb and can only do windows
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>>107728245
maybe, I do have some RAM after all.
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Why are modern PC's so fucking heavy?
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>>107728198
i had some recent BSODs as well caused by memory dying. memtest86.org -> install to fresh usb and boot from bios into it -> leave for 45 mins -> if you have any failures, retest individual sticks until you find the fucked up one -> throw it out or isolate the bad addresses. i don't think there's that much else that causes BSODs these days so there's a good chance it's this, hopefully the damage is minimal, gl
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>>107728277
Why are modern males so fucking weak?
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>>107728277
You clearly weren't here for the folded steel era of PC cases.
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>>107728260
Its alright anon, I already have a set of 2x32gb 6000cl26 1.4v that isn't even being sold anymore
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>>107728300
>memtest86
its memtest.org
you just sent people to a parked domain
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>>107728365
my bad i meant type type "memtest86 the .org one not the paid one" then shortened without checking like a retard. thanks for the correction. my adblock even has that link blocked... gomen....
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>>107728300
memtest86 is hot dog shit, it doesn't work for modern ram. i've had it run overnight and find nothing where anything good like testmem5/karhu errors out in 10 minutes or less.
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>>107728300
>i don't think there's that much else that causes BSODs these days
not that anon, but in my personal experience the culprit has always been failing storage. either situation sucks with the price of replacement parts right now though.
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Imagine buying AMD.
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>>107727272
What is the current meta on monitors? I bought an LG c2 in 2022 and i've been thinking of gifting it to my parents and getting something new. Is OLED still king?
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>>107728482
amd took the performance crown not the platform stability crown
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>>107728492
3rd gen OLED from LG, Asus, Samsung or Alienware.
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>>107727564
>do you have months/years of savings to buffer the huge expenditure?
NTA but im yuropoor with 50k saved in the bank and from january i will be making around 1.6-2k euros per month on average if i try hard. Should i get a 5090 or i still can't afford it?
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>>107728070
It's only a bad card because it costs too much.
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>>107728516
Can you name some specific models so i get an idea?
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is there a forum or something where i can pay a modder to put 32gb on my rtx 5080?
im 100% serious
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https://wccftech.com/samsung-mass-produces-worlds-first-360hz-v-stripe-qd-oled-34-panels-coming-2026/
https://global.samsungdisplay.com/31411
>• Samsung Display supplies V-Stripe QD-OLED panels to seven global monitor manufacturers, including ASUS and MSI, for new 2026 monitor models
>• The 2026 QD-OLED panels showcase high-performance features, including 21:9 ultra-wide aspect ratio, 360Hz refresh rate, and a peak brightness of 1,300 nits
I'm afraid it's telling there's no mention of even 27" 1440p (109 PPI) or 4K (163 PPI) models.
This was the same size/form factor Samsung debuted QD-OLED with back in 2022 with the Dell Alienware AW3423DW.
It'll be interesting to see which RGB OLED has the best text clarity, though LG's 27" 4K panel probably will have an edge I just hope they fix their color volume, panel uniformity, and out-of-black transition issues to make it worth considering.
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>>107728531
clamshell mods like that usually involve transplanting the core and memory chips to a modified pcb and blower style cooler. might have to wait a couple months for those to be readily available for modding like the 4090 48gbs were
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>>107727956
Base 5080 are low qt and have very basic noisy cooling solutions. I don't think they deliver what high qt models do and they may age faster.
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>>107728530
Asus ROG Swift OLED PG32UCDMR
Alienware AW3225QF
LG UltraGear 32GS95UV
SAMSUNG Odyssey G8 LS32FG810SUXEN
MSI MPG 321CURX
GIGABYTE Aorus FO32U2

Pick the one you like best. They are more or less the same. If you want ultra wide then get one of the LG ones.
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>>107728530
>Can you name some specific models so i get an idea?
https://www.displayninja.com/best-oled-monitor/#27%E2%80%B3_OLED_Monitors
Right now the best OLEDs are the 27" 4K QD-OLEDs in terms of text quality (PPI density to bruteforce mask color fringing from the non-RGB subpixel layout):
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#r=384002160&P=9&sort=price&page=1&F=355600000,736600000
If you have a GPU with DP 2.1 support pick one like the MSI MPG 272URX QD-OLED so you can get the full 4K@240Hz signal without DSC.
If your GPU doesn't have DP2.1 then literally pick the cheapest one you can find (except the Samsung Odyssey OLED G8 G81SF which has a notoriously awful matte coating that ruins the image).
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>>107728561
4k at 27" is retarded, don't get 27"
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>>107728571
THIS
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>>107728571
>>107728580
Until most OLEDs are RGB you need at least this level of pixel density to hide the color fringing on small details/text to match LCDs at much lower resolution.
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Is 16GB of DDR4 and a 5070ti enough for video slopping?
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I dont have a gf
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>>107728592
For the time being, yes.
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>>107728592
>16GB of DDR4
Not with this.
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>>107728614
What do I need to get?
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holy fuck the absolute state of the captcha all because I got a new PC....
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looking for a nice 16:10 monitor anybody got a recommendation?
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>>107727272
>PC Building General
*Wealthy Oligarchs General
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>>107728664
>wealthy
Lol, lmao. I barely make over minimum wage and I have a 5080 and 64 gigs of memory. Just know your priorities.
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>>107728664
i live in mommy's house getting gibs that pay the same amount that my previous part time shitty job used to pay (barely anything), it only took a couple months of saving up. it seems most people around me who work full time never save their money, instead spending hundreds of pounds on clothes and snacks and garbage they don't actually want.
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Just ordered my first OLED monitor, switching from 1080p to this
https://rog.asus.com/monitors/27-to-31-5-inches/rog-strix-oled-xg27aqdmg-gen2-xg27aqdmgr/
how do i care about burn in and all that jazz? i don't wanna fuck up my monitor. Any tips? I've hear you should have static images or some shit but i aint gonna hide my taskbar...
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>>107728714
you can set black background and have a 2nd monitor with the taskbar and static elements + set timer to set monitor to sleep after a time of not being used
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>>107728714
>you shouldn't*
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>>107728520
With access to 50k liquid you *can* buy whatever card you like and it's not going to eat into your emergency funds or whatever, but it's still a very expensive purchase that probably doesn't provide you with much value. Do you work with AI? Do you have a genuine need or strong desire to run models that need 32GB instead of just 16GB? Do you love gaming on high res + high framerate + modern games / emulating and spend a lot of time on it? Then sure. E.g. this guy >>107728680 knows exactly what he wants so i'd guess his min wage 5080 purchase was sensible. Meanwhile i make plenty but i only really need a 5070ti so that's what i got even if i mightve bought something even beefier
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>>107727272
Is it worth it to upgrade to a Noctura 5080 from a 3090ti?

I feel the speed is faster in the 5080, but it is hard to leave the 24gb vram of the 3090ti.
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>>107728726
but does it make such of a difference? i don't wanna be paranoid about it too much
allegedly these new oled monitors aren't that bad anymore in regards to that
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>>107728753
Eh id get the proart asus card instead
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>>107728753
noctua products make me crave ice cream sandwiches
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>>107728759
if you spend thousand hours with taskbar in same position it can have an impact

you can use windows setting to only have taskbar up on one monitor, and windhawk app to move it to your secondary monitor
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>>107728753
why would you ever go backwards in vram? slower card might lose you a few frames in gaming for a slight difference in degree, lower vram will outright prevent certain AI tasks and one day certain games for a very inconvenient difference in kind that forces an upgrade
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>>107728760
damn, that is sexy
>>107728771
fuck you I am hungry now
>>107728779
you're right. That is why I didn't upgrade the card, I just saw the noctura card was back on amazon and just had the debate in my head again.
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>>107728779
to get 50% more fps in games?
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>>107728753
5080 is already very cool.
The extra expense of the noctua stuff is pretty pointless, unless you just like the aesthetics.
It's probably a higher binned card too.
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>>107727595
5070 will run into OOM errors unless you are doing basic stuff
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>>107728857
not every card is aimed at local llm use
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I miss the little wheel toggle on the logitech g502... I "upgraded" to the viper v3 pro and its just not the same...
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>>107727566
Average black American things
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>>107727607
How the fuck so many of you break the gpu latch? You just need to push it down with something long then pull the gpu. Its not rocket science
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>>107727736
Imagine paying 700 usd for a sapphire card. God damn there are 4080s for that much
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>>107728889
the prices are automatically fethched
old components dont have accurate pricing
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>>107727357
anon... that is nowhere near crisp enough
if only you knew how low PPI 27" 1440p truly is
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>>107728001
You can just get used ssds and slap it on the pc. At least it won't be YOUR data. By the way for kids that rig is more than enough. All they do is play roblox and Minecraft anyways. With occasional fortnite
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>>107728125
Anon this situation will not get better till 2028 at least... The fabs are not even finished building yet
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at what point should I start to worry about m2 ssd failing? crystaldisk is showing 91%
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>>107728266
You don't need Linux. With Rufus you can install w11 even on old pentium and celerons granted they have uefi bios. Nobody needs a 3xd Cpu for casual gaming, nor a 5090. I'm still on an Am4 rig with 8 cores and 32 gig ddr4, rtx 3060 12 gig gddr6. I can play anything I want in 1080p
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>>107728482
And wasn't it Intel cpus who literally burnt themselves to death? Nobody is perfect
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>>107728961
they don't "Fail" when you run out of writes, they just switch into read only mode. It can fail at any time, like any drive, so always make backups.
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>>107728927
My sister's husband is gradually introducing them to more serious games. I think they expressed an interest in RDR2.

Which kinda ran like ass on the 1080Ti at release, so maybe it's better now. But, they might be at 1080p anyway.
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Europoor looking at three second hand computers but trying to work out which to get. Objective is emulation (up to to Wii, maybe even some Switch but understand that's finicky) + couch gaming - 1080p 60fps is the end goal. The options are an i7 9700 16GB RAM build with a 1660 ti (280€), a 2400G 32GB RAM build in a super dirty case (200€), or a 3200G 16GB RAM build (170€). Looking to spend under 350€ at first, so the second two it's possible to upgrade the CPU with something 2nd hand from German eBay.
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>>107727472
He's in a better place, anon.
Thank you for taking care of him and I hope you'll meet again.
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>>107729000
understood, thanks
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>>107729003
It will work on a 1080TI but not 1440p nor more than 45 fps, maybe 50-55 fps on very low. Still it's a solid card and brings about 100-125 euros in my cunt. Got rtx 2070 super for 135 euros just a month ago. I sell everything for profit but I have no close family here, if you love them don't charge them but tell them to taper their expectations. The market is in shambles and everything is getting price increases every single week
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>>107729012
heaven for dogs is an endless grassy field to run in with infinite different things to sniff
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>>107729005
Anon I'm in France and those prices are fucking horrible. You can get proper Am4 mobo and cpu combos for 100-125 euros on Vinted. Slap it on a second hand case and a rtx 3060 for 150 euros and you're golden for a good 5-6 years. You're kinda too late to the party though, I got my ryzen 7 rig with 32 gig ddr4 for 115 euros 2 years ago. Without gpu of course but that's expected. Build your own and it can get much cheaper than whag you find
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>>107729005
I7-9700 is the fastest by far though
Do any of the other builds have a discrete GPU?
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Does Win10 run badly on a HDD?
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>>107729065
dont put your os on a hdd for the love of god
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>>107729065
1 tb or more is okay, less than that are pretty slow. W10 IOT enterprise LTSC is better as it has less bloat
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>>107729073
>>107729075
We accidentaly installed Win10 in the HDD instead of the SDD because both were 1TB and we couldn't tell the difference until later and yeah, it's pretty fuckin slow
Too late now, I already migrated and installed all my shit
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>>107728619
32GB
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I remember when 8-10GBs of ram was a lot... 10 years ago
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>>107729081
it isn't worth living the next x years in hell just because you're too lazy to reinstall
fuck
do a drive clone from the hdd to the ssd if they are the same size even
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>>107729034
Thanks for the tip about Vinted; I had only heard people talk about it in relation to clothes and shoes. Of course, I'm now completely overwhelmed by choice of motherboard. I don't think I can swing the prices you did, but it does provide flexibility and it looks quite a bit better than German eBay.
>>107729036
1151 socket has no upgrade path is my issue whereas AM4 has options.
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>>107729003
I just checked some bench marks on YouTube, with a 6 core ryzen it runs 65-70 fps in 1080p low/medium mix. I would say 1080TI is still more than capable for gaming, especially with its 11 gig gddr5x vram. It is close to 6 gig gddr6, so like a 1660 super/ti
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>>107729111
9th gen beats zen2 and only loses to zen3 marginally. if you're buying into am4 and upgrading it, you'd be paying the cost of 2 cpus which isnt worth it
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Do you use IEMs or Headsets for gaming? Which is better?
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>>107729112
It's still a surprisingly strong card. I was using it up until a couple of months ago. I'd probably have been using it for the next couple of years if not for me trying to get ahead of the RAM crisis.
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>>107729111
You're welcome, i am a gaming pc reseller and buy almost everything on Vinted, hundreds of orders and got burnt only once or twice by people retarded enough to take out their ryzen cpus off their mobos and bending the pins, or very old ssds showing caution on crystal disk info. Even got my rtx 3060 12 gig gddr6 from Vinted, I'm very happy with it. You can negotiate a lot, there are very good deals to be found. Was eyeing a msi x570 with ryzen 7 3800x combo for 130 euros but decided that I didn't need to upgrade, kinda regret it though. I buy only the pc cases brand new as they come with original packaging with white huge foams that keep the tower stable inside the box. Other than that psu, mobo, cpu, ram, gpu, ssd, nvme, all got it from vinted.
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>>107729133
I feel you, I'm the same. Saw the situation with ram and gpu and decided to upgrade my 1660 super for an rtx 3060 12 gig. At least it will keep me alive for another 5-6 years, I don't play UE 5 slop
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>>107729012
>I hope you'll meet again
I hope so too, thank you anon.

>>107729022
That sounds lovely.
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Just realized my back can wasn't working for few weeks or months now because I changed it's curve to 0 and forgot to reenable it
My temps were still perfectly fine though lol
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>>107727472
lol
>>107729143
I also upgraded from a 1660, it was a damn good 1080p card though, a massive upgrade coming from laptop integrated graphics.
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>>107729098
No cloud service can take all my shit now and I blew all my money on the computer so I can't buy an external storage just for this one thing
>do a drive clone from the hdd to the ssd if they are the same size even
But all my steam/gog games, emulators and porn are there
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>>107729131
comfy closed headset from a brand that's popular enough for you to easily be able to replace the pads/cables in future if they wear out. microphone separate always, clamped on a big arm at the back of my desk so it can hang just above my monitor to the left and not get in the way at all. if you have a strong need for privacy e.g. don't want your gooner hentai blasting into the room next door through big open back headphones, iems aren't a good solution anyway since you'd probably rather be able to hear someone knocking. maybe more useful if you want a quiet setup for something like a shared home office. those are from a convenience perspective, rather than audio quality
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>>107727472
I bought my PC with some of the inheritance my grandma left for me, I can't let anything bad happen to it
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>>107729220
Ayyy. Yeah it was a beast of a card. Shame game devs can't optimize for shit
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>>107729126
9th gen i7 is light on threads is worth mentioning. Only 8 threads 8 cores.
It really does matter.
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>>107729273
8c/8t performs identically to 6c/12t
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is buying a sealed asus tuf 4080 super for 900 euros a good deal?
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>>107729297
No nigga get a 5070 ti nearly identical raster performance and more features newer dlss mfg ai tops etc AND cheaper.

Unless you really like playing physx games.
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>>107729310
I'm picrel btw
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>>107729317
The pedo or the 2d girl?
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I was gonna get it as a spare for my own 4080 soup, but I still got warranty on mine, I guess I can just wait until its fucked and buy a 5070 ti, assuming its price isnt fucked by then?
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>>107729317
She's 6.
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>>107729355
Buying a copy gpu as a spare is a pointless thing, just spend that money on roughly 1.4 shares of the VOO instead
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>>107729355
if you have money for two xx80 gpus, sell both of them and get a 5090 instead which will renew your warranty anyway
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>>107729369
I'd prefer not to die in a fire
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>>107729376
skill issue
you should always have 3 filled fire extinguishers in your room at all times
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Are peope really stupid here? Why obssess so hard over GPUs? THEY ARE PCIE DEVICES. Why dont you have the same obsession over SSDs or sound cards?
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>Bought used 3080 ti from a friend for 375€
>Used shortly for mining but it works okay apparently
>See traces of rust and the power connector is a bit worn out
>10 min later the PC shutdown and the card is probably dead
>Going to return it, seller said it has another one and going to check if it has the same issues.

It's a Gigabyte 3080 ti Eagles and while researching found out, Gigabyte models had the bunch of issues with the power connector and blown VRM/fuses whatever.
All this because I refuse to pay 600€ for either a 5070/9070
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>>107729436
https://youtu.be/X6WHBO_Qc-Q?t=116
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>>107729436
It's an investment. I already sold a 16 gig ddr4 kit for 109 euros, bought it for 40 euros two months ago. Same for nvme, 1 tb i got for 89 euros is 129euros now. Biding my time to sell it for more profit. Also have an rtx 5060 that I got for 269 euros, it is 329 right now.
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>>107729436
Its a fully fledged computer that goes into your pcie slot. Big difference between it and ssds or sound cards though is it has immense processing power and that's what we like
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>>107727272
Can I get a wired/wireless mouse recommendation? I like mice that are on the heavy side, don't have a bunch of buttons although I like having the two thin buttons on the side that most have and must be under $80 USD/$100 AUD.

Thanks
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>>107729481
Steam Machine will save us. Only 500$ for 4k/240hz gaming.
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>>107729492
Don't get anything razer from Aliexpress, it'd all fake. Get a wired Logitech brand new
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>>107729494
500 are ram alone. steam machines are sadly cursed
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>>107729494
Anon you're too optimistic. There is no way in hell they can sell it that cheap, already an 8 gig DDR5 module costs like 20 usd to the fab. And do not forget it will be an apu, just like steam deck. Soldered ram, No dedicated gpu, and you can only change the nvme disk or micro sd card. It will be 799 usd minimum, probably more. Even with steam store they cannot afford to sell it for 500 or 600 usd.
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Does anyone have any recommendations for a 1440p monitor with a high refresh rate?
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>>107729494
Valve is not going to sell it at a loss, it's going to be $900 minimum.
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>>107729529
>Valve is not going to sell it at a loss, it's going to be $900 minimum.
What is even the point then? If you have that much money or more you'll build a PC yourself. If you don't you get a console. Who are these machine gonna be priced to sell to then? What's the intended market for their justified existence (I've had the same feelings about the MSI Claw, ASUS ROG Ally, and other similar devices before)?
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>>107729518
>Does anyone have any recommendations for a 1440p monitor with a high refresh rate?
Do you live in the US?
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>>107729356
Out of 5
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>>107729546
Well in 2026 you won't be able to. That's the problem. The cheapest brand new competent 5000 starts from 450/500 usd, add to that an AM5 mobo and cpu combo you're looking at 800-900 usd minimum. Didn't factor DDR5 ram yet, mind you. Then you have nvme, psu, case, cooler... It is not a good time to build a brand new pc
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>>107729518
540hz asus oled one if you can cope with the banding and uniformity cuckery
500hz qdoleds asus, msi, samsung, whoever else makes them if you don't
480hz woleds asus/lg if even cheaper sales, should be as good as the rest of these, functionally the same
360hz qdoleds if even cheaper than that
240hz qd/woleds if even cheaper
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>>107729552
Nope


>>107729572
Thanks
Is burn in still an issue with these? I have seen some that advertise some kind of panel refresh system.
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>>107729546
Ps msi claw, rog ally, all are trying to emulate the success of steam deck but that wave is over. People do not have as much disposable income as in the past, bills and rent are more important than Bing bang wahoo on the go. People who are serious about gaming get a gaming pc for 1K usd or more and forget about it for 6-7 years minimum. Probably even longer now that Ai is slurping dram wafers till 2028
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>>107729595
steam deck was really cheap while those copycat handhelds are 1.5-3x the cost
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>>107729636
Yeah cause for the last 5-6 months dram prices have been creeping up. And the handheld format is just more cumbersome and more expensive to produce, not like you put a mobo in a plastic chassis like a gaming laptop. You need R D, design, negotiations with chip and board manifacturers etc... Valve was able to sell it cheap as they tied it directly to steam store, they knew people would buy more games through the deck. Msi and Asus cannot. Also I really do not get the point of a handheld gaming device that powerful. Just get a gaming laptop at that point, shit is too big to take out of your pocket and play on the bus anyways
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I'm telling you all right now, Sound Cards are severely underrated. You can still use an external analog AMP, just hook it in through the right port.

These Linuxfags and Sysadmins don't ever consider it. And the AIGooners don't even think about some nice tunes to listen to during their goonsesh.

My external analog amp has been serving me through 3 pairs of headphones and 20 years, sounds golden. Even Sennheiser 660S without calibrated equalization sounds magical, and I can throw on an external crossfeed if I want bring the sound more into my headspace.

Something to consider.
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>>107729572
240HZ if you are a 4K Chad.
600+HZ if you are a CS fag with a finely tuned aimbot on 720p upscaled to fit your screen and DPI settings you guard with your life.
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>>107729720
It's just sound nigga. Are you a dog? You cannot hear under/over a certain hertz anyways. Keep the money for extra storage or a better gpu
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https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/1q0gwdb/internet_cafe_owner_reports_15_dead_ryzen_7/

HE BUYED BOUGHTED AYYMDEAD DEFECTIVE BY DESIGN CPUS & GPUS
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>>107729758
>old
>reddit
Funny how the url describes you
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Do you think this whole gpu shit will stabilize after 2 years or so?
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>>107727792
>all those overpriced components including $1200 on RAM alone
>shitty PowerColor Hellhound 9070 XT
Fuck's sake.
At least get the Sapphire model, it costs the same.

>>107727979
Then get an used like new 4090 FE for $1350 on Ebay.
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>>107729494
>Only 500$ for 4k/240hz gaming.
More like $800 for fake resolution/fake frames gaming.
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Is the 9060 xt decent for 1440p? Found an openbox deal at my microcenter for $330. Currently have a 3060 12gb
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>>107729882
If you can deal with an AMD card, yeah. But I would spend the extra $60 to get a 5060 Ti.
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>>107729594
>Is burn in still an issue with these? I have seen some that advertise some kind of panel refresh system.
the 540hz asus has the new woled tandem panel which should have the longest life span
the 500hz qdoleds are only on Gen3 QDOLED which is 3 layer not 5 layer like the Gen4 panels, only the 4k 240hz 27" qdoleds have the newer longer lasting panels

Does it matter? who knows it's all marketing nothing is old enough to know yet

>I have seen some that advertise some kind of panel refresh system.
yeah the biggest negative of oled panels is you have to run the pixel refresh every 4-24 hours which if you have a really annoying firmware like certain manufacturers which force it every 16 hours if you haven't ran it which is fucking annoying, which would be mandatory even if you have disabled the 4 hour reminder

msi has updated their monitors to 24 hours, asus should have no mandatory pixel refresh ever, allegedly

asus has better features in general

so depends on your tolerance for text rendering/lowered contrast in light rooms if you go for woled or qdoled

the 400$ msi 240hz qdoled 1440p ones on black friday were hard to beat I guess
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>>107729513
>it will be an apu
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>>107729758
What the heck is a huntkey PSU? Don't cheap out on the PSU LOL.
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>>107729882
Yes but make sure it's the 16GB version, and check real gameplay of the games you want to play with the settings you would use.
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>LG store in my country have discounted the TVs again
>They removed free shipping option (which they still promote btw) (increasing price) and they have removed the ability to use coupon codes (increasing pricing)
>Impossible to buy G5 for the same price as before
it's fucking over, I should have buyedboughted
ahem FUCK woled, Samsung, drop the fucking discounts im buyin a S95F
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>>107729937
It's an OEM that Lenovo and HP use.
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>>107727272
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oYJn1yTUXE
12vhpwr sissies BTFO
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Upgrading from a 2070S, debating between:
- PNY OC 5070 for 560€
- Zotac Gaming Solid OC 5070 for 590€
- Refurb Sapphire Pulse 9070 for 590€
- XFX Swift 9070 for 620€
- Sapphire Pulse 9070XT for 635€

Which of these is the better buy? I don't want to help the Nvidia monopoly, but the zotac seems the better deal.

Also, I'm running a 5800X3D in a B450M Mortar Max, so PCIE3. Should I try to find a B550 PCIE4 motherboard?
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>>107729971
Or I could try to find a used 4070/4070Super for 400-450€ too
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>>107729971
The 9070xt pulse is the best deal
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>>107729971
Gen4 doesn't matter for an x16 pcie link
Not even the 5090 requires that



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