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>>107736231So RTX 5070ti is the next GTX 1080 ??
Can anyone post some charts showing the specs between AMD CPUs and Intel CPUs.I genuinely don't know which one is better. And I'm pretty tech illiterate.
What's the point anymore? PC is dying. Only 40% of households now have a dedicated PC. The other 60% now just use tablets and phones. Prices are not coming down. Once they go up and corpos see that retards will pay the higher prices they stay high. Gaming will be completely mobile/streaming service within the next 5 years. If you have a job that requires a PC, AI is going to replace you anyway.There is no point. Spend that money on a flagship android and get a solid tablet. That's all you're going to need now goy. And you can thank your NPC sheep brained neighbors for all of it.
>>107736290Just get the 7800x3D.
>>107736289driver issues
>>107736290AMD unless you're using some specific program that favors Intel
i am thinking i should sell my 128gb ddr4 along with the 5950x and the motherboard for a profit while i boot up my old 4790k system with 32gb of ddr3 and use that for another 4+ years. or just sell 64gb of ddr4? i am broke right now and might have to move out when the lease ends in july
>>107736294how many normalfags are doing something has no bearing on what i do. 0.01% of houses could have pcs and I'd still be in that.You shouldn't care what normgroidcattle are doing either.
>>107736290no because i would need to own several intel and AMD CPUs to do thattech reviewers aren't capable of making unbiased comparisons
>>107736231Gee, no bias here
>>107736147>Wait WOLED has much worse banding than QD-OLED?Known issue for a long time as LG's WOLED stack is bottom-emission whereas Samsung's QD-OLED are top emission for a cleaner image:https://old.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/1po4a52/reviewers_not_mentioning_the_banding_on_the_new/https://old.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/1pxc1ff/another_banding_post_mo27q28g/https://old.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/1py87zt/gray_banding_in_my_tandem_oled_monitor/https://old.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/147eofc/lg_oled_monitor_banding/https://old.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/1748uv6/new_to_oled_dirty_screen_effects_grey_uniformity/If you want objective measures of how much worse WOLEDs are than QD-OLEDs see these:https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/qd-oled-vs-woled#uniformityhttps://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/asus-rog-strix-oled-xg32ucwmg-vs-asus-rog-swift-oled-pg32ucdm/100486/42065#test_1406
>>107736321using haswell and ddr3 in 2026 is a bit scuffed but if your main use case is shitposting on 4chan it will be fabulous.
>>107736315Just like AMD
>>107736294Thanks, but I think I'll continue to do what I enjoy despite Guy On The Internet or Joe Schmoe down the block thinks.
>>107736294you *might* be in the wrong thread, anon, try /b/ next time
>>107736312>>107736319While I do see a lot of people say AMD is better.I kind of want to understand why. Looking for a little more than just "this is better".
>>107736332it's all based on price and performance, /shillpostanon/.>an /PCBG/ for every anons use case and budget! hooray!
>>107736358It must be me. Seems there's a one-sided recommendation category. Almost as if someone has an agenda. No, you're right. I must be the shill.
>>107736348The 13th and 14th gen of Intel CPUs has lots of issues and are inferior in terms of performances compared to Ryzen's CPUs released in the same year. If you really want to be an Intel fanboy, get their 12th or 15th gen I guess.
>>107736348ryzen gets higher fps in games, but intel still gets hundreds of fps above what is considered playable, ryzen's advantage only matters if you're a competitive counterstrike player who makes money off of playing the game.in productivity you'll find core ulta 9 and 9950x are just trading blows, so pick based on benchmarks of the application you use.ryzen has had more issues dying lately, you probably won't have an issue either way but arrow lake seems quite stable right nowamd has a longer-lasting socket that is supported for more generations, relevant if you upgrade on a short cycle.You really aren't going to fuck up either way... both are good
Should I sell my 3070 for $325-375 leafbux? I'm through with gayming. It's taking too much of my time when I should be studying. On the occasion that I wanna game, I got an 'eck for lighter titles and a c*nsole for demanding ones but I haven't been able to bite the bullet and sell it on the occasion that it quadruples in price (ala 2020-2022) as soon as I sell it.
>>107736348Lots of games especially Unreal Engine 5 ones have terrible 1% lows and stuttering on Nvidia for no reason. GeForce drivers are ass now. They moved most of the driver devs for gaming cards over to AI shit so it's just Indians vibe coding with chatgpt now.
>>107736348AMD IS the better choice for most users. Of course there are exceptions. If you're a legit AI dev/user/etc who needs CUDA (and when I say legit AI user, I don't mean some fat fuck pedo sitting in his basement making Tifa or Lara porn). Or, if you have specific programs that you have a real need for that require CUDA, then no, AMD is not the choice you should be making. But for all the retards out there, like me, who just mainly shit post and play vidya? AMD is perfectly fine.
>>10773637112900ks owner rise up!
>>107736367please do specify which part of the OP seems to be biased, anon, we love to make suggestions for the sticky, all viewpoints are considered valid until, you know, debunked.so speak up, and back it up with unbiased /fact/, if it is deemed worthy by our benevolent OP overlord it may gain favor.>>107736246>Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.
>>107736373>>107736371>You really aren't going to fuck up either way... both are good>ryzen's advantage only matters if you're a competitive counterstrike playerOkay, thank you. I play stuff like Wukong, Stellar Blade and Elden Ring. So I think I'm good.I'll stick with the 12600k Intel CPU my prebuilt came with.
>>107736384except for having second-rate raytracing, horrible path tracing, worse upscaling, no mfg, less software support, no cuda, much worse ai performance, worse drivers, and costing 95% as much for equivalent raster performance instead of even being a compelling value, yeah radeon cards are great.9070 xt would have been great at $400.
>>107736383What hours do you usually sleep? I want to know for reasons. Also all these satisfied 5080 owners must be giving you a rash.
>>107736348Issues should be resolved as of now. So long as people update their bios.
>>107736399>$0.03 has been deposited into your nVidia account!Congrats! Not only have you exposed yourself as a shillz but you have no idea what you're talking about. Just out of curiosity, how much do you get paid per post?
>>107736397Yes, any swap would be a small gain for enormous money unless the cpu used the same socket 12,13,14 gen intel. Buying a new AMD MB and cpu, and possibly ram for 15 percent performance is insane.
>>107736413>all these satisfied 5080 ownersOnly the most retarded NPC consoomer could be satifisfied with a 16GB 80 class gpu that doesn't even match the last gen 90 class for 1000 USD
>>107736373>ryzen's advantage only matters if you're a competitive counterstrike player who makes money off of playing the gameintel is faster in CS2 thoughhttps://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=3240880604post em>>10773639712600K is still good, faster than a 9600X in almost everything>>107736414if you think this is gonna convince any deranged fanboy you're mistakenit wasn't the motherboard maker's fault btw, it was 100% intel, which is also probably why they felt the need to extend their warranty by 2 years
>>107736420Are you saying a 9070xt for $400 is still a bad deal. Damn I thought they were ok.
>>107736414>The root causeAbsolute fucking bullshit.The root cause is they took alder lake's power delivery system that was already running on the upper limits of what is safe to power 16 cores, then added 8 more Estrogen cores and clocked everything even higher. It's a fundamentally flawed design. They coped with microcode like patching a leaky hull and are currently just hoping their cpus don't pop before people replace them.I'm an intel fanboy but I still hate being jerked around like this.
>>107736432That rash is growing.
>>107736436Nothing you said in your post is remotely true, shill. You've been exposed.
>>107736397>I play stuff like Wukong, Stellar Blade and Elden Ring. So I think I'm good.Yeah, AAA games typically relies more on Graphics Cards than CPUs.
It's one thing to shill for AMD when you have something like a Red Devil but it's a on another level when you have the literal bottom tier garbage silicone Asus Prime
>>107736449What? I like AMD you are the one saying a cheap 9070 would still suck.
>>107736456You're telling to the wrong person.
>>107736462I'm telling you because you are the one responding to me. You are confused and angry.
Have you done the needful yet, sIr?
>>1077364371.55 V limit at low loads is fine, probably still kinda pushing the silicon but it's the same limit that AMD uses for their 7nm chips, and there hasn't been any widespread degradation of those afaikyou can argue "alder lake's power delivery system" doesn't extract the optimal performance out of the chip but it's not unsafe with proper limits in place
>>107736475>you can argue "alder lake's power delivery system" doesn't extract the optimal performance out of the chip but it's not unsafe with proper limits in placeThose limits were exceeded with raptor lake. They are simply routing too much power through the ring bus to fuel all of those cores. They are now put in an impossible situation where the actual fix is dropping clock speeds until it's safe but they can't because it would be false advertising since they already printed those numbers in the specs. So they are doing as much microcode jewery as possible to drag out the failure.
Did I do the right thing by selling INTC? I do hope they eat up Nvidia GPU marketshare.
>>107736479it's not about power, you have people pushing 400W into 14900Ks since launch without degradation, because they were running manual overclocks with lower voltage ceilingsyou don't understand how any of this works, you just want to be mad at intelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9slwXKUwmnE
What I fear most of all now is that my 5070 GPU could melt my 12v-2x6 cable.
>>107736490pretty sure i watched this, i don't remember him going into detail about how the chip was engineered or how it routes power, because he's not an engineer. My source comes from concerns actual intel engineers had about raptor lake's design. Too much power in one ring bus sums it up.
>>107736495You and the 9070xt bros too
>>107736502i'm sure you have those intel engineers on speed dialand i'm sorry your 13900K died but you can get it replaced for free, shit happens
>>1077365095090s should fear melted cables the most.
If any of your parts break within these next 5 years, you are literally fucked. I hope you guys know that, go as expensive as you can for your new build.
>>107736533You'd be surprised how many retards will pay those prices
>>107736531both 9070 xt and 5090 are melty dog shitthe connector is complete shit with a 1.1x safety margin which is completely unacceptable by any reasonable electrical engineering standard. You can force 300 watts through a pcie 8-pin rated for 150w and it won't melt for reference.The only reason the lower end rtx 5000 cards like the 5080/5070 ti aren't melting is because aibs (that aren't AMD exclusive) have already learned how to build their pcbs around this absolute disaster of a connector to minimize failure chance, but even those measured weren't enough for the 5090.
>>107736395As an owner of both an AMD and Intel CPU- used for different purposes, I find it... odd... that no Intel CPUs are recommended for different use-cases. Such as productivity. THIS POST: >>107736373That is a fair and unbiased recommendation that really should be directly added to the OP.
>>107736416Why did this anon get nuked?Are you not allowed to post Honoka here?
>>107736546Is this kind of thing even fixable?
>>107736414I love how they release 0x12F AFTER their last update was declared the final fix.
>>107736558>I find it... odd... that no Intel CPUs are recommended for different use-casesbecause it's a nicrotroon thread. He's a braindead brandfagging shill who hates intel and nvidia. I just cope by considering newfags who just glance at an op deserve to get shilled.
>>107736558Never buy from American companies. Ever.
When someone says a 5090 is for productivity, what the fuck does that actually mean? I'm confused.
>>1077365720x12F is supposed to prevent undershoot, not overshootit's not related to the degradation issue
>>107736564Because that anon is the nicotroon
>>107736399as an nvidiot i disagree. the 9070 and it's XT are, with recent driver updates, competitive in their price classes for many use cases.
>>107736583They are trying to deep fake porn of your mom.
>>107736413just >>107736288 and move on, your brainpower is far too precious to waste on this /crap/
Hi anons, I don't usually visit /g/ but I just bought a prebuilt with a 5070ti. It hasn't arrived yet but I was thinking of also buying an AMD card, probably the 9070xt, since it seems like prices are about to skyrocket even further. Also because I was thinking of switching to linux at some point if windows 11 becomes too shit to use anymore. But I feel like if I'm going to buy backup parts it's going to be a losing battle since even if I can replace my GPU it's only a matter of time before something else fails that I won't have the money to replace. That on top of hearing about how Nvidia support for linux has been improving pretty rapidly is keeping me from going through with it. So i'm not really sure what to do now.
>>107736583Video editing or AI faggotry.
>>107736531>No mention of the PSU >Cables clearly bending way too soon
>>107736558link your rationale to the OP, your argument seems logical enough to me.>OP isn't going to listen to my psychobabble, they know better
>>107736606It always the retards on a shitty pre-built or a case of a shitty PSU. There was a PC Bang that blew through 15 9800x3D and it cause of a shitty PSU.
>>107736583Adobe, for one, leverages GPU power in Photoshop and Lightroom Classic to assist in certain operations. For example, the denoising function in Lightroom would take 5-10 seconds on a PC with any decent GPU. It took the Apple boys up to 20 minutes.
>>107736587Do I even want to know this lore?
>>107736587there are retards like this on all the boards and many threads, the schizo trolls are the tax we pay for posting in an anonymous forum. Sure, in a traditional forum they'd be banned by now, but I think the advantages of anonymity are worth having to deal with some of these retards. Their average shelf life is only about 5 years anyway, if not by suicide they eventually lose access to the internet due to being kicked out by parents or their parents just dying and not being able to enable their internet access anymore, as everyone like him is unemployed. Sometimes they even just get arrested like Randall Berka III who used to shit up waifu threads on r9k with his schizo spam but then threatened Biden and got v&.tl;dr the storm will pass eventually, but then we'll get a new retard probably.
>>107736603>thinking of switchingyou need to put a solid use case together then design your /build/ around it. fantasizing won't help you make the decision. but it's your money, anon, if you can afford to have more then one vidyacard maybe you can do some sort of comparison testing and then post a youtube of it>we're just fantasizing here, right?
>>107736629no you don't because it's not very interestingbrown canadian phoneposter trying to kill /pcbg/ and failing miserablyhe gets banned on sight now so who cares
>>107736531more shillposter disinformation, really now the pattern is quite evident to anyone who lurks.<image of shitty connector that melted><single line comment attempting FUD>>i said it before, you actually suck at this.
>>107736652you are banned but your IP changes all the time because you're on a mobile networkso tech illiterate you're ban evading without knowing it
>>107736546not all 9070s have the 12VHPWR connector which, as we all know, is a shit design.
>>107736570current cards are pozzed and aren't fixable except for 5090 gigabyte cards being modded with a 2nd 12vhpwr connector to half the amount of current flowing in each connector new cards can be made safe if they derate the connector to 300W and revise the connector spec to allow split power planes for current balancing like in the 3090ti
>>107736657ip changing alone isn't enough to ban evade, he must be doing it intentionally.
>>107736662They are not going to do that
>>107736386i'd rather have an early 12900k non-s for avx512 support
>>107736629probably not but here it is as pic related, it really shits up the thread. use your brain to filter it out.>>107736640kek didn't take long
>>107736669it is if you're using incognito mode on your phone4chan stores a cookie you can clear to get a new "identity"
>>107736683who just uses incognito mode to post on 4chan unless they are ban evading on purpose though? It just makes you run into constant 300 second captcha wait times. Dumb.
>>107736657>>107736669may even be a bot farm or paid shillposter, could be a lone schizo.>could be you for all we know.
>>107736689this dude shits up threads for hours by manually selecting hundreds of images in his photo gallery
>>107736680>shill for amd because of /pol/Half correct.He posted that he had an ASUS Prime 9070 XT and anons were laughing at his shit tier card asking him why he didn't spend $30 more to get a proper card with real clocks which he argued that you don't need more and posted his Steel Nomad score in response.He's basically mad that people can afford better things than him (well, what his parents can afford to give him).
>>107736701uhhhh.... ummmm..... is that considered a bad thing to do on this here imageboard?>asking for a fren
>>107736712whateva. i just want all my /pcbg/anons to enjoy their /stuff/.
>>107736689>>107736701also i think it's 2 minutes wait time now, they lowered it after the site got hacked>>107736712>which he argued that you don't need more and posted his Steel Nomad score in responsestill funny as fuck lmaoand i have a TUF 9070 XT which runs basically the same clocksi don't understand how you can let something like that get to you>>107736724not always, you can do it tastefully
>>107736437
I love my PC so much
>>107736653https://www.dsogaming.com/articles/heres-what-happened-to-the-12vhpwr-power-cable-of-our-nvidia-rtx-4090-after-two-years-of-continuous-work/This is what a 4090 did to it's connector after two years of usage. Properly connected and everything done right. 5090 will be even worse since it draws significantly more power. All of them will be in the trash in 4 years or less and Nvidia will have to settle a class action.
>>107736712Damn I bought a 3070ti during the covid scam and got made fun of relentlessly for years. Who gives a fuck. Why take it to heart.
Idubbz's life makes me think that we live in a simulation of some sort
>>107736766If you love it so much why didn't you marry it?
>>107736768What about the 6090?
>>107736701make 40 more accounts ;)
>>107736768What baffles me is an AMD AIB using that cursed connector. Well after the issues were known.
>>107736768>Nvidia will have to settle a class actionthat sounds plausible. too bad the actual /engineer/ing team that greenlit the connector can't be flogged for it.
>>107736783i doubt nvidia will change from this disaster of a connector, the longer they use it the more committed they are and the worse they will look to shareholders if they admit it's flawed. There's just no chance. They know it's bad but as long as they pretend it isn't, that's the best move for quarterly earnings.
>>107736773>Why take it to heartyes, thats the spirit! i hope you have had and continue to have lulz with your /vidyacard/, anon.
>>107736791>the best move for quarterly earnings.Line 1: 1.22 TRILLION dollars in AI server revenue...Line 1283: (32 million dollars to make some filthy gamers shut up)
>>107736791>know it's bad but as long as they pretend it isn'ti think that was the point the other anon was making, it will take force majeure e.g., class action to get them to bend.
>>107736801Well if you have any 3070ti jokes you are free to share. There should have been a support group for 3070ti owners.
>>107736816a major class action to get them to fart out a tiny settlement and stay the course, maybe>>107736812
>>107736816Like a class action lawsuits is gonna affect Nvidia, when it's Nvidia.
>>107736816>class action to get them to bend.Calling it now: they'll open up the connector to AIBs and point the finger at them when they do nothing and another burns.
>>107736816>>107736824>>107736829Nvidia lost! BIG time. The law firm flat out retired on the spot. Here's your check for $1.09. Go get yourself a nice piece of ass.
>>107736829well my general philosophy is sort like pic related. having spent my life wageslaving for global corpohomo i can only agree with you.
>>107736842Sony got a class action lawsuits for their PS5 dualshock controller stick drift. Did they rectify the problem permanently? Of course not.
>>107736855Rule 1 of lawsuits- if there's a potential it might be granted class-action status and there's ANY offer to settle before it goes to trial... you, individually, ALWAYS TAKE THE MONEY. It will be far more than if the class grows to thousands or millions of plaintiffs.
is a 3090 (non ti) for $650 a good price? found it marketplace and alreay feel the fomo and i dont want to buy overpriced ebay shit
>>107736886Fuck no. WAY overpriced
>>107736846
>>107736886You can get a 9070 XT new for the same price
Is it worth overclocking your GPU in 2025+1?I never done it because I'm scared it'll kill my card but getting a 10% performance boost seems really good. Is it safe to do?
>>107736886Around $850 is the going price right now.
>>107736907Pretty sure it's a consoomer NPC you're talking to. The funny man on YouTube and TikTok told him he HAD to have nVidia ONLY.
>>107736927>Is it safe to do?no.>no risk, no fun.
>>107736928Gamers aren't buying these. They're priced for ai coomers.
>>107736929nvidia is the safe choice. every time you buy amd, you take a risk with your money
>>107736927Generally, if you do your homework and see what others are doing, it's safe. You want to undervolt it, over clock it, and boost your vram frequencies. It ~should~ give better performance with about the same temps.
>>107736929Stfu nicotroon, youtubers and tiktok cucks only recommended amd
>>107736942horse apples. i say there is a card for every use case and budget. buy whatever you want, some rando will shit on it regardless
>>107736927we are going into a pc apocalypse and you want to overclock? Why? aren't you satisfied with your performance?
>>107736956where there's smoke there's fireamd has a bad name because of their recent past history
>shitposter started shitposting when it's morning for the SEAmonkeys
>>107736945Will it just work out of the box if I get a factory OC edition?
>>107736961yes I want to stretch out my performance for those reasons
>>107736961>Whythe anon mentioned a 10% performance boost (i think for for better boobjiggly effects)
>>107736979cite said history or GTFO, troll. all the vendors have skeletons in their closets.
How much more graphics performance do you really fucking need when you can readily play them in high to ultra settings?
>>107736984>just work out of the box ifare you retarded or just trolling?
>>107737005>How much more graphics performance do you really
>>107737000Redstone - rdna3 left in the ditch with regards to fsr4, FG and ray reconstruction supportRDNA2 already sidelined with driver updatesRDNA1 was a buggy PoSRadeon VII already forgotten may as well not existVega56/64 late to the market and under delivered on performance and efficiency
>>107736990i doubt 10% is going to make the difference between playable or notif his shit isnt running well it's already too late he needs to buy NOW or end up in waitpurgatory during the incoming taiwan invasion.
>>107737010Retarded. I know next to nothing about tech stuff.
>one of my monitors just blacked out to a nearby lightning strikethis is what I get for buying the cheapest cables possible
>>107737032if 10% is enough to get you above stable 60 fps wouldn't you take it?
>>107737034Do you really think they'd sell you something that didn't work out of the box bar it being broken in transit?
>>107737035i use an active ups so that my hardware is never directly interacting with the power from the outlet. It was really expensive and the constant fan is annoying but closedback headphones help.
>>107736941So what. That's to going price. Hell the one I keep for backup may eventually go for more than I originally paid. xx90 series cards are a sure investment at this point.
>>107736383>Lots of games especially Unreal Engine 5 ones have terrible 1% lows and stuttering on Nvidia for no reason.>for no reason.They rush out game launches without tuning for NVIDIA GPU performance because the game runs well enough for the businessmen's standards.This Nicotroon is an assblasted Canadian who wasn't able to afford a 5070 Ti at launch, couldn't afford the 9070 XT Hellhound that he wanted, and is bitter about settling for an ASUS Prime.
>>107737034you've come to the right place, no one here knows about it either.>just google how to overclock your vidyacard, pick some /faggot/ with a yootoob channel that shows you how, and have fun trying it.>make sure you understand how to get into whatever safe mode your system has if you get something wrong.
>>107737044>Do you really think they'd sell you something that didn't work out of the boxAbsolutely.But my question was more "does a factory OC do the overclocking by itself, or do I need to do something to turn it on". And more so, take the steps mentioned here >>107736945 so it doesn't break.
>>107736383>Lots of games especially Unreal Engine 5So it's a UE5 problem, got it
So I finally removed my laptop's BIOS password from flashing another BIOS file fom a different model from the same motherboard using a ch341. It's all good until I found out that it keeps resetting as if my CMOS battery has died, which by the way I've only replaced last month just to be sure. I can install another clean OS now though. I've also read that early versions of Phoenix Technology can have this issue.
>>107737061Plug and play. Nothing extra required for factory OC cards.
>>107737083Cool. Thanks for the heads up. Appreciate it.
>>107737072Give it back Jerome.
>>107737061Factory OC'd GPUs just guarantee a slightly higher minimum gaming boost clock speed; it doesn't determine the maximum overclocking potential of the chip, except for the premium cards like the ASUS ROG Matrix.Both AMD and NVIDIA set GPU voltage limits that can't be bypassed without hardware modifications.The chips will run safely even at their maximum GPU core voltage slider.But you need to make sure the 12V-2x6 power connections are securely connected for the higher end RTX cards (with safe straight clearance before bending).https://knowledge.seasonic.com/article/72-psu-recommendations-for-nvidia-rtx-4000-cardsRead this guide for basic NVIDIA overlocking and undervolting, but don't follow the exact voltage & clock speed guidance as they apply to RTX 30 series cards.https://github.com/LunarPSD/NvidiaOverclocking/blob/main/Nvidia%20Overclocking.md
I've never been more excited about getting a job flipping burgers lmfao
>>107737061factory OC just means that the gpu is preloaded with a vbios that has a gpu core overclock of about 30mhz over the non-OC version. its a complete nothingburger and just a way for gpu makers to multiply their models to fill up the shelves and add a nonsensical $150 markup for the ""OC"' model
>>107737118Thanks, anon. I will read this, just because I'm trying to learn more about building PCs and stuff.But if I'm being honest, I don't trust myself to do stuff like this yet. Wouldn't want to risk frying my new 1,000$ card.
>>107737113how did you know i stole it
>>107737118we might be stuck with our current hardware for a decade.ocing will reduce lifespan even if it won't make it fail within warrantyocing ought to be a last resortit's not like we get much out of it these days. This isn't 2010 where you can get 30-40% out of an oc.
>>107737138If you're buying an RTX card, that guide teaches you everything you need to know how to undervolt + OC it.That will set the GPU to run more power efficiently while performing close to the card's stock performance.You can move on to pure GPU OCing after you're familiar with the program.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPpW9yXHvOUGet either Unigine Heaven or Valley to keep the video card running under load while you make adjustments to the GPU V/F curve.If you make changes while the video card isn't running under 3D rendering loads, they won't apply under gaming loads.
>>107737149ur black
I want to BUILD but my parts Newegg said would arrive tomorrow are not set to arrive till Saturday. Is this legal?
>>107737172>ocing will reduce lifespanimpossible on a modern GPUthis will only happen if you run stupid settings on a CPU (like 10x scalar on AMD or no power limits on intel)>This isn't 2010 where you can get 30-40% out of an ocyou can easily get that much out of a RAM overclockand some people almost got that much out of their 6900 XTs before AMD locked down morepowertool
>>107737181Newegg delivers to New Deli now?
>>107737181Please understand they need an extra day to open and riffle through your order at the nearest UPS hub.
>>107737188There's vram degradation you need to worry about if you're OCing. OCing increases the amount of current going through the vram and if you OC the core too, everything in the GPU will run hotter
>>107737206>what is "undervolting"?
>>107737206if your memory is running too hot it's gonna be running too hot at stock toolike those 3090s or whatever that had defective GDDR6X>>107737222you can't undervolt memory on modern NVIDIA and AMD GPUsRDNA2 could do it through MPT(technically you can do it on RDNA4 by setting a VID offset on the VRM but that's a very fragile method)
hey /g/ tourist hereplanning on upgrading my rigwhen are the RAM & GPU prices going back to normal?
>>107737232Never.But they'll stabilize sometime in 2027 and go down some in 2028.
>>107737231>like those 3090s or whatever that had defective GDDR6XIt's 2026, and these people are still FUDing the RTX 30 GDDR6X operating temps.The dodgy voltage controller layout is much more likely to cause VRM failures (and actually happens at a noticeable scale) before any temperature-related VRAM degradation occurs.
>>107737232idk let me consult the magic ball
>>107737245i have no idea what actually caused it lmao i didn't pay any attention to that controversynot trying to spread FUD, just saying, the extra amount of current going through the VRAM because of the increased frequency is completely irrelevant
>>107737241>>107737253ok thanksI think I'll buy more guns & ammo instead then and hope my rig doesn't break in the meantime.I don't really need to upgrade desu since most AAA games are woke anyway and I don't even bother pirating them anymore.
>>107737232Never. Retards will pay the high prices. Even if it means they use to sell their food stamps and use the money had set aside for drugs. They'll pay it. And by doing that, the company have no reason to lower prices.
>>107737231Gddr6x was pretty solid and not impacted by any large scale failuresPeople were just afraid of seeing their vram running at 105C but nothing really came out of it even 5 years later. 3090s mostly failed due to bad solder joints, dodgy voltage controllers or in gigabytes case, overloading one of the power phases more than the other phases
>>107737192New Mexico, almost the same
>>107737232Memory & SSD prices will never return to the 2023 ~ September 2025 lows.But things might get better in 2~3 years; no one knows.
>>107737258
>>107737259>It's da heckin poorfags buying PC components with their welfare moneywhat cope is this, it's clearly richfags. poor people would buy a console. no offense but this cope makes it sound like you're upper lower class or something
>>107737264sure. people are far too concerned about hardware durability in general, like those people that freak the fuck out because their 9800X3D idles at 45 C
>>107737277only richfags buy consoles
>>107737270i actually know 2027 will be a good year to build
>>107737271Thank god I can't have a gun, I'd be behind bars already
I just got a RTX-5090, should I use the power cable that came with my RM1200x PSU or that came with the GPU? Will using the PSU’s version void my warranty with Gigabyte?
>>107736374bumpa!
>>107737376If you're no longer interested in gaming and want to focus on studying, selling your 3070 for $325-375 seems reasonable, especially if you can resist holding out for a potential future price surge.
>>107737369Use the PSU cableNo it won't void the warranty
>>107737138>I don't trust myself to do stuff like this yetjust install MSI afterburner and run the O/C scanner, it's an easy start.
RAMANON I SUMMON YOU TO POST RAM DEALS
Where do I buy some RAM from?I need 2x32 GB cardsFucking things are costlier than a new laptop
scalpers have purchased all the remaining graphics cards. it's over
>>107737438I settled for 2x24GB since people aren't buying them as much you can sometimes find them for cheap at retail locations (microcenter and shit).
>>107737430shhh, it's sleeping. no more deals, anon, the new year is upon us. those of you looking for deals on RAM are well and truly hosed. best of luck and all that.
>>107737444>8 in stockshould I?
>>107737451Same I found some really high end memory I never would have bought, but it was not as marked up as the other stuff
>>107737467If you're happy with your current video card for the next 2~3 years, wait it out.The memory chip shortages practically killed any hope for an 18GB 5070 Super and a 24GB 5070 Ti Super.
>>107737467I can't believe how cheap this shit is in america compared to my hellhole holy fuck
i'm upgrading my router from wifi 5 to wifi 6. my computer has a integrated rz616 wifi 6e card, but i'm wondering if it would be worth it to get a new PCI-E wifi 6 adapter to use instead. every google search i see about the rz616 tells me that it is dogshit. i do get some packet loss pretty frequently
>>107737451nobody wants the non-binary lgbt rams
>>107737271'MURRICA
>>107737498I mean is the integrated on the PCI bus already? USB? I would think most cards these days are not great but it's not like they are trash with a bunch of packet loss. Have you made sure that you don't have other factors that would be replicated with a new wireless card?
How do you guys organize your folders and the stuff you have? A physically powerful and clean pc should be taken care off in the software side. It's like a car I guess.
>>107737531Once my desktop gets too cluttered I make a folder called stuff with today's date and I put everything in there. Repeat every 6 or 8 months.
>>107737467>500 bucks for a 5070this is fake right?
I'm starting to believe life it's absolutely fucking ass unless you're rich
>>107737522yeah it's PCI-E. honestly I don't really know a whole lot about networking, I just figured the thing that came with my motherboard might not be the best. some of my packet loss is because I have wireless internet, i'm sure
should i put my operating system on a little seperate ssd? half to simplify swapping distro, but also maybe i can get a faster smaller ssd for the os, or one with different wear-resistance, or whatevermobomaps.com suggests that i can run two m.2 ssds and a gpu all at once without bottleneck on my msi pro b650m-a wifi, though it doesn't have exactly that mobo
>upgraded in late 2024>want to upgrade againwhat's this stupid retarded feeling called? being a retard?
>>107737569a good goyim
>>107737569Maybe you're actually a genius ever thought about that huh
>>107737578Thank you for the reminder that anything involving money/debt is a jewish trick. I will resist jewish magic.
is 9060XT 16GB for 399 decent or should i look for better options around 400 dollars? like if there is something for 430 or so that is significantly better that would be fine but i want to stick around that
>>107737569>shallow upgraded this year to a 5060 ti>regret not going balls deep and getting a 5070+help me cope my card will last this industry implosion
>>107737587you are wercome ferrow samurai
>>107737592If you're anything like me you didn't want the 5070 because 12 gb of vram, and you didn't have enough money for a 5070ti or betterIt is what it is, man, maybe we can resell this card at a very decent price eventually
>>107737569Since it's 2026 now, you've technically upgraded 2 years ago and it's safe to upgrade now
>>107737552I don't do much wireless anymore these days or I should say I don't do any that has issues. You're definitely right there's going to be cards that are better and cards that are worse but I would nail down some stuff like distance or interference or changing channels before I would bother buying a new card
>>107737590Depends on price of 5060 ti 16gb. If it's 50 dollars or less difference go with that. Not worth paying anymore than that though they perform the same basically like 5% or less depending on the game in either one's favor.
>>107737633okay i'll look into some other avenues first before replacing it, thanks
>>107737592if you're willing to drop settings when necessary you'll be more than fine. The most common gpu on steam hw survey is still a 3060 and it's growing not declining. In 4 years there MIGHT be a gpu on par with a 5060 ti leading the charts but it wouldn't even surprise me if it was something worse.
RGB QD-OLED UPDATE:https://x.com/TFTCentral/status/2006802343917138336>To clarify. The sub pixels are standing upright like pillars, vertically. They are aligned from left to right RGB which I suppose you’d call horizontal layout. Same as an LCD = RGB stripe This “V stripe” naming scheme and the random pics from the MSI teaser are confusing thingsFar-right is the next-gen panel structure not the vertical middle illustration floating in some leaks despite the "V Stripe" name Sammy went with for the tech. We've dodged a bullet. Still unhappy that neither LG nor Samsung's "Stripe RGB" offerings will have equally sized subpixels.
>>107737668Trust the experts
So AMD was at the top for a while huh I guess these were the times when cyber cafes were profitable in spain and third world countries
>>107737753NVIDIA was already prioritizing the CUDA GPGPU adoption by that point.
>>107737753Back then the jump in performance from 3800 series to 5800 series was enormous.>3870 had 320 shaders>wanna see us (more than) double it to 800 in 4870?>wanna see us double it again to 1600 in 5870?all that while undercutting Nvidia
>>107737790I guess Nvidia won in the end
>>107737807That's crazy, I hope AMD manages to be at the top again eventually
im using a 5060ti 16 GB with a i7 8086k, pic related, and a 970 EVO plus 500gbI understand my GPU is bottle-necked regardless but nvidia control panel says that its only using 8pcie lanes. (gen 3 lol)question 1>is this because my riser cable is broken or is it because the SSD is using the other 8 lanes for NVMe. I would think they were separate but now i wonder. question 2>if I go grab a SATA3 m.2 drive and open all the PCIe lanes to the GPU, would that be a clear performance gain in gaymes or is it a toss up?
>>107737807Those designs were fueled by cheap silicon.Radeon started to fall behind when they couldn't release larger GPUs than NVIDIA at affordable price points.Maxwell and Pascal were clearly superior GPU designs.
>>107737836im sorry but the 5060 ti is actually an 8x pcie lane card. Both nvidia and amd started this jewery a few years back during covid to save roughly 3 cents worth of copper traces per gpu and absolutely fuck people on older motherboards in the ass. The good news is, it's probably not a big deal on that gpu in particular.
picking this up tomorrow, is it a good pick? no base models in stock and i would have got a $999 5080 but they are gone too
>>107737853>it's probably not a big deal on that gpu in particular.depending on the game.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfkJVio8gXo&
>>107737853Can you please stop posting rape bait, thank you
>>107737862i bought the exact same card on amazon today for $750
>>107737873blue gremlin is for love not rape
>>107737862It's fine
>>107737879right that's the non OC version which would have been preferable to save money, but i dont want to deal with delivery and would rather pick up a card in person
>>107737862>>107737879Holy shit we might be cooked
>>107737853>Both nvidia and amd started this jeweryAMD was actually the first to pull this PCIe x8 stunt, way before COVID.https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-460.c2849https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gtx-950.c2747
>>107737888you can still overclock the non OC card brobut yeah i do have to wait a bit
>>107737889i was a 5000 super waitfag but i got scared, it blows paying almost 1k for 16gb
>>107737897interesting, i guess i just didnt hear any media coverage about it until 2020+Probably because it's completely reasonable on a multi-display adapter meant for projectors in classrooms and offices like an rx 460 but started to become completely asinine on gaming capable gpus like the 6600xt.
>>107737882I'm sorry you're right
>>107737897RX 460 was a $110 card, just enough for esports shit, kinda justified since it was not fast enough to matter.
>>107737920>on a multi-display adapter meant for projectors in classrooms and offices like an rx 460These were sold as gaming GPUs, competing against the GTX 960; AMD did scummy things too.NVIDIA was very late with this trend; they started with the RTX 4060.
>>107737853Oh thats embarrassing. At least nothings broken. Thanks for the quick reply! >>107737870>>107737897If I do a budget upgrade to something like a 12th gen intel, I could carry over my DDR4 and get PCIe5.0. would probably cost about $300 Havent found a way to do this with AMDWould this be a smart move to avoid the RAM market or should I wait(TM)
>>107737931So this narrative>absolutely fuck people on older motherboards in the assDoesn't apply when the GPU with a red sticker does it.
>>107737947>competing against the GTX 960odd since the 460 appears to be nowhere near the 960 in performance.
>>107737953Doesn't apply when the GPU is slow as shit to begin with.
>>107737975Yeah the 460 is absolute crap, the 6600xt wasn't absolute crap, that's why people were upset with it I guess.AMD definitely does scummy shit when they think they can get away with it. Does anyone remember the fx-9590 originally launching with some insane msrp like $700? For an overclocked 8350 with a 120mm aio.
>>107737975That makes the x8 lane configuration even worse at lower PCIe gens.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express#Comparison_table
>>107737989If it doesn't really matter for 5060ti, it would not really matter for RX460.
>>107736231Why does this thread even exist? we're all waitfags indefinitely at this point in this kind of market
Realistically who is using a 50 series GPU on a pci express 3 mobo other than me because I'm poor as shit and im gonna upgrade as soon as I can Doesn't make any sense because even the best CPU and ram on a pci express 3 mobo will bottleneck the thingWho cares if it only has 8x pcie lanes or 16, you're getting bottleneck'd hard anyways
>>107736231installed tridentz 3200 cl16 2x8gb along the original xpg 3600 (running @ 2333) 2x8gb & now I get cpuz saying rams are running @1066 even tho bios says original xpg running @ 2333 whereas tridentz running @ lower ratemobo is x570 tomahawkcpu is 5800x non 3dwhatdo?i bought those tridentz for 80$ used, hope I wasnt ripped
>>107738021seems to matter quite a bit for even the 4060 ti in some games, the 5060 ti may not be a large upgrade over that, but it is faster. So the delta should be even larger between pcie 3.0 and 4.0.
>>107738057>50 series on a PCI-E 3TPU tried
>>107738061I don't think thats how you supposed to do it, you're supposed to have identical sticks.I have 2x16 gb running at 3200CL16.
>>107738061what is 1066*2?
>>107738083i solved the captcha for this
>>107738087nicepersonally i would've asked grok
>>107738061you're stuck at jedec because you mixed kits that dont oc well together probably because it's all mystery meat ics. Should have done more research.. thanks for playing.You can still just use the sticks in jedec and enjoy the extra capacity if the performance isn't noticeably worse, though.
>>107738073Well duh because it's cool to see and learn all that data, but someone who actually wants to play videogames is not gonna be doing that
>>107738095OR you can go down the manual ram timings rabbit hole and give yourself brain cancer trying to find settings both kits will play nicely together at.
>>107738076i cant run it stable with anything above 2333i dont have time for OCing
>>107738061The four sticks are probably running at the base 2133MT/s JEDEC speed of the Trident sticks you got. The Trident doesn’t have the faster 2333 base speed bin.You didn’t get ripped off, you didn’t understand what you were buying into.
>>107738111half of the work in ram OCing is researching what kits and motherboard to buy so you don't have to pull your hair out when overclocking it
Guys, I'm always ban evading, I have no life and neither grandpa or the jannies can hold me back, only going homeless would be able to stop me
>>107738117Because you also need to raise the memory voltage (VDD/VDDQ) as well as the CPU’s memory controller related voltages to stabilize faster memory speeds and tighter timings.
Just wait /pcbg/ imma post my ram next week and we will see who is laughing then
>>107738117The simplest solution by far was to buy a 2x16GB kit. Now, you can still do that, but you'd have to sell 2 2x8 kits now.
>finally got all my parts>been sitting on them for about a week because i haven't had a chance to do the deed>finally have a chance now>but it's 2 AM and i'm tired Maybe I should just get started...
>>107738117this is why ram should be soldered
>>107738117put the first kit in slots A1/A2put the second kit in slots B1/B2update the BIOS (if you haven't already)go into BIOSset RAM speed to 3200 MHzset tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC to 16-20-20-40-60set VSOC to 1.1 Vset CLDO VDDP to 1.0 Vset VDIMM/DRAM voltage to 1.35 Vset ProcOdt to 48 ohmset ClkDrvStr to 40 ohmset RttNom-RttWr-RttPark to 7/3/3set GDM/Gear Down Mode to enabledthat will work, you can do better if you give us the model numbers for each kit>>107738121meh, sure but you can do 3200 on anything
>>107738171Sir please just do the bloody needful already and be done with it
>>107737862>>107737879>mfw paid ~$750 (with taxes and shipping) for my USED 4070 Ti Super
>>107738199Sheesh
>>107738189Reminds me of the letter Ignatius sends to Levy Pants' client in Confederacy of Dunces, basically telling them to eat shit kek
>>107738171>start new build during Black Friday sales>grab CPU, motherboard and PSU on big discounts>put off RAM purchase since there should be more deals the closer to christmas, right?>miss the last chopper out of VietRAM and suddenly RAM prices skyrocket>still haven't finished buying all the parts I need>not even sure any of the stuff I bought works and return window is closing fast
>>107738176nerd alerthey guyslook at this nerd overe herelmao
>>107738141my ram will still probably be better and ive had and enjoyed it for almost a year already so i won
>>107738189Shrey was fantasizing about cucking Nicole's husband when he wrote that
>>107738238i'm sorry numbers are too hard for you
>>107736479>>107736502you don't need intel engineers to tell you thatbuildzoid's first educated guess from the symptoms was that the ring bus was getting cooked and then afterwards, MLID's "sources" told him that the leading theory behind rapturelake dying was because of the failing ring bus
>>107738298yeah but intel won't acknowledge that as the root cause, just call their little band-aid "fixes" definitive because of pr bullshit
>>107738176cant find procOdt/ClkDrvStrRttNom-RttWr-RttPark take ohm values & no there is no 7/3/3 options for themVSOC is the same as CPU SoC?tRP has write & read items like tRPWRT & tRPRD
>>107738325https://pastebin.com/pm3quNbUwmic memorychip list full log
>>107738313they gave some bullshit reason about weak clock tree which doesn't explain why wendell found out that certain degraded cpus could be restabilized by downclocking the memory controllerand i agree its all one big scam. their spec sheet was overly optimistic and nothing short of downclocking and undervolting can fix it, or if they somehow find a way to reduce the voltage needed for 6-6.3ghz by 0.15v across the board without impacting yields.
Realistically, what's the difference in performance between DDR4 and DDR5?My motherboard VRMs died so I've used that as an excuse to upgrade from the 3600x I have. Anyways, I've seen the 12600kf go for as low as $180 CAD while the AMD equivalent are all $300 and more. I'm considering buying a LGA 1700 board with DDR4 and using my 16gb kit I already have, but I'm wondering how much performance would I be leaving on the table if I did that?
>>107738349like 15% gaymen performance if (and only if) you have an rtx5090 and play at 1080p/1440pin most cases, they're effectively equal
>>107738298not sure how the theory that the ring bus was degrading means it's unfixableif you stop pushing 1.7 V into the thing it stops degrading lol that's what intel's fix does>>107738325found this for the X570 ACE, should hopefully be the same as your board: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-meg-x570-ace/5.htmlProcOdt and ClkDrvStren are both on this page>RttNom-RttWr-RttPark take ohm values & no there is no 7/3/3 options for themRttNom 34RttWr/RttPark 80>VSOC is the same as CPU SoC?yes, CPU NB/SoC Voltage>tRP has write & read items like tRPWRT & tRPRDyou probably mean tRCD, set both to the same value (20)>>107738349DDR4 XMP is kinda ass on intelbut then again DDR5 XMP might also be kinda assi wouldn't have a problem pairing a 12600K with DDR4 as long as it's 3200 MHz and 32 GB or higher
>>107738246He was fantasizing about cucking Nicole with her husband KEK
>Be thirdie.>I have to sell my New Nintendo 2DS XL in order to have enough money to buy a 9070 XT because jobless,Kinda sucks but I don't really use it so it's fine I guess.
>>107738349Don't listen to dumbass niggas like this >>107738358Even if you have only a 9070 XT/5070 ti tier of performance and play 1440p, you will be bottlenecked in multiplayer games and have much worse frametimes without x3d and ddr 5 ram on AM5. I went from 5900x on ddr4 to a 9800x3d ddr5 platform and it literally brute force fixed terrible stuttering and shit that would happen in Hell Let Loose a badly optimized multiplayer game with 100 player matches.Average performance charts are heavily skewed by reviewers mainly testing single player gpu heavy games that don't work the cpu as hard. It all depends on what games you play.
Slap an anime girl into a gpu and I'll pay an extra 1k idgaf
>>107738375Is the cost of a used N3DS 2D XL the price of a 9070 XT?
>>107738367>1.7 Vthey were degrading from 1.5v VID lol and that kind of voltage is needed for 90% of raptorlake i9s to hit the advertised clock. and the reason why they're binning those 90% of i7-tier chips as i9s is because 10nm was losing them money. its that shrimple.
>>107738375>it's fine I guessthis makes us sad. but anon will get a new vidyacard so thats ok i guess. enjoy the new card, fren.
>>107738388you went from 6-core ccx zen3 32mb L3$ to 8-core zen5 96mb L3$. ddr5 has little part to play in the improvement you saw
>>107738375your pretty ambitiousmy 2.5th world cousins who are employed uses a desktop 3070 and a pascal era laptop to game
>>107738398Yeah that's why I said x3d as well which is only on AM5 and requires ddr5. And it is the only way you can fix badly optimized multiplayer games like HLL and Escape From Tarkov.
>>107738375That's very fucking good you can just emulate that shit who cares
>>107738388god i want to beat bocchi the reddit until her teeth fall outand all the redditors who relate with herUWUUU IM SO SOCIALLY AWKWARD AND WEIRD BUT ITS CUTE AND QUIRKY AND LOOK HOW MANY FRIENDS I HAVE HAHATomoko did it first, and did it 10,000x better, and didn't shy away from the despair and lonely realities of the subject matterthanks for reading my blog
Wait my 5900x isn't as good as a 9800x3d?
>>107738393>they were degrading from 1.5v VIDit's 1.5 + vdroop compensation, 14900Ks used to regularly request 1.65 V from the VRM and with overshoot that can easily turn into 1.7 Vat that point gates start to break down at above-ambient temperaturesjust watch the video that was linked earlier instead of theorizing about shit you don't understand lmao>>107738398it's nicotroon, feel free to ignore all of his posts forever
>>107738413it's worse in literally every wayeven in multi-core, you're getting edged out, though not by much.
>>107738409God I love this stinky bitch so damn much and her anime's OP are so good, golden era anime
>>107738418Fuck.
>>107738414>just watch the video that was linked earlier instead of theorizing about shit you don't understand lmaoyou caught me, its been over a year since I used my starting-to-degrade 13900ks which never saw the garbage panic patches with 1.1mOhm ACLL they put out months after I sold it. that chip only ever asked for 1.45v VID at worst and was a mid-bin 1.466v 6ghz chip.
>>107738425why surprised? The 9800x3d is over 4 years newer and multiple architecture iterations and a whole 2 nodes more advanced.The 5900x is still a perfectly serviceable cpu for what it's worth, and will be for years to come.
>>107738433>that chip only ever asked for 1.45v VID at worst and was a mid-bin 1.466v 6ghz chipthe number you see in hwinfo isn't the VID requestif you set DC LL to 0.01mOhm it shows what the CPU is actually asking for
>>107738422she canonically doesn't stinkbut it's definitely funner to fantasize that she doesShe also canonically has weird white pubic hairs
>>107738446That's still VID and is exactly what the CPU is asking for taking into account the powerplane resistances. The only caveat is that there can be transient VIDs much higher than what's recorded since it happens too fast for hwinfo64 to log.the one you're talking about is the base VID that hasn't been modified by ACLL (pulls up VID) and TVB voltage optimization (pulls down VID based on temps)
>>107738446i capped my vid requests on 14900k in bios to 1.45v from first boot a year ago, should be fine right?
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>>107738358So with a 6700xt GPU, the real-world difference is neglible?>>107738367>DDR4 XMP is kinda ass on intel>but then again DDR5 XMP might also be kinda ass>i wouldn't have a problem pairing a 12600K with DDR4 as long as it's 3200 MHz and 32 GB or higherWhat do you mean? Is 32GB the norm now? I have a 16gb 3773 mhz kit I bought 6 years ago for dirt cheap, shouldn't that be fine?>>107738388>>107738398I'm just looking for a comfortable 1440p 60fps experience. I don't play too many video games that would justify purchasing the top of the line.
>already own a 7900XTX>9070XT is a sidegrade at best (don't use crapscaling or gaytracing)>realistically at least 1.5 years until RDNA5>don't want to give a cent to njewdia>don't even play video games made in the last 10 years>but money's still burning a hole in my pocketFuck my retarded consoomer brain
>>107738392Could've phrased it better.>Have ~$290 USD saved up.>Saw a 5060 Ti 8GB on sale on BestBuy for $250.>Bought it, arrives tomorrow.>Gonna sell it for ~400 USD because that's what it goes for here in Tacoland. (actually it retails closer to ~$490 but gotta make an attractive offer if I wanna sell it.>Will sell NN2DSXL to afford the 9070 XT.Honestly I was gonna buy a 5070 Super if it had more than 12 GB of VRAM but that was before Sam Altman bought all of our RAM and fucked us all in the ass.Oh well, at least I'll still have my 3DS XL from 2013 so it's ok.
>>107738464>1440p 60fpsdon't worry about ram then. even base spec 2133mhz cl15 ddr4 won't hinder performance enough that you'd have a trouble hitting 60hz
>>107738457>That's still VID and is exactly what the CPU is asking for taking into account the powerplane resistancesno, VIDs in hwinfo are an estimate of what voltage is actually hitting the CPU based on what the motherboard has configured in DC LL (which should match VRM LL, but often didn't), and the current the CPU think it's pulling on each corethe VID request sent to the VRM is much highereverything you see in software monitoring on intel CPUs is fake, it's all an estimate and it needs to be configured right or it will lie to you>the one you're talking about is the base VID that hasn't been modified by ACLL (pulls up VID)no i'm not, AC LL isn't DC LLDC LL is used for voltage and power estimation, it's cosmetic only>>107738459yes>>107738464>Is 32GB the norm now?yesyou can go with 16 GB but personally i would feel bad about hitting the RAM limit that easily on a modern platform
>>107738470buy a share of the VOO instead, invest in your future.
>>107738367i skipped the ones that I didn't explicitly find/find parameters for but I think it's running @ 3200 now according to cpuz at least altho it doesnt show it for all slotsalso i didn't switch identical ram sets to the dimm slots you recommended
>>107738488>everything you see in software monitoring on intel CPUs is fake, it's all an estimate and it needs to be configured right or it will lie to youasus defaults the DC LL to automatically match vrm LL for quite a while now and their VIDs nearly matches the die sense voltage readings. that's what I base my numbers off ofACLL does have an impact on VIDs & vcore as do TVB VO
>>107737542no its zotac
>>107738439I just like having the best of the best. Or near it. Stupid thing I know. I was looking at the 9800x3d anyway because I can't afford a 9950x3d.
>>107738475>>107738488My monitor is 144hz, so what about 144fps? I'd imagine I'll be in the 80-100fps range on modern games.>you can go with 16 GB but personally i would feel bad about hitting the RAM limit that easily on a modern platformI'm getting conflicting answers. You're saying that I'm essentially RAM bottlenecked, but the other anon is saying that there's very little difference.
>>107738474Makes sense. Quite the hustle. At least you still have a 3DS XL. I think the only games I cared about having the N3DS for was Monster Hunter. And I don't even remember the games that needed the N3DS either.I just hope it's not a special N3DS 2D XL.
>>107738540https://youtu.be/Bj5v52R4qnk?si=kZcF6uD-4HoPLDQ3
>>107738531i get that urge, i settle on a 2-3 gens cycle, ill build another high-end pc when the rtx 7000 series or 8000 series drops. Couldn't imagine doing it every single release. Gotta savor your hardware for longer even when it's a little bit (not a lot) dated
>>10773854016gb is fine for now but things can get hairy if you have stuff open or if a new windows update comes out and increases ram usageits best if you get 2x16gb of ddr4 if not 4x8gb is fine if you do enough research and buy the exact same memory chips that you own (not ram model but chip model #)
>>107738502>i skipped the ones that I didn't explicitly find/find parameters forno worries, if it booted it's probably fine>but I think it's running @ 3200 now according to cpuz at least altho it doesnt show it for all slotsall slots are synced to the same speed>also i didn't switch identical ram sets to the dimm slots you recommendedalso fine, but the memory controllers trains A and B channels separately, so that can bring a little extra stability with mixed kitsan X570 tomahawk shouldn't have any problem running 4 sticks at 3200 even without any of those adjustments>>107738518>asus defaults the DC LL to automatically match vrm LL for quite a while now and their VIDs nearly matches the die sense voltage readingsyeah which is good, but you aren't going to see those 10 microseconds where the voltage was mispredicted and the CPU ended up being hit with 1.65 Vit's dangerous to request that much voltage from VRM, even if the CPU predicts it will be pulled down to a safe valueof course it was gigaretarded of intel to ship with a system like that in the first place, but there's a strict 1.55 V limit now>ACLL does have an impact on VIDs & vcore as do TVB VOyep, i know, and the new 1.1mOhm default + 1.55 V limit is obviously gonna give you worse performance than the old wild west settings that motherboard manufacturers were screwing around with>>107738540go with 16 GB if you feel like that's enough for you, personally i would add another kit
>>10773854816gb is the most common config per steam hw survey in december 2025 as fucked as that is. Though 32gb is right behind.
>>107738238shut yo bitch ass up STOOPID
>>107738176>meh, sure but you can do 3200 on anythinginb4 you mix single rank samsung 8gbit d-die with dual rank micron 4gbit rev.a
>>107738600let me guess, mustard gas
>>107738609worse... arsenic laced smoothie
>>107738546Nahh, it's not one of the limited edition ones, it's the regular black and blue one. Honestly I got pretty lucky with buying the console since I bought it for like $100 used then like 8 months later Nintendo halted 3DS manufacturing and prices skyrocketed.
>>107738552>>107738557Thanks. OK, so I just need more RAM in the future but the difference between DDR4 and DDR5 is neglible.
>>107738551I got it when it came out, and it was tough to get during those times, so I feel like it's a little justified. Maybe I'll just get a new GPU while they're still at okay prices and just hope things will settle back down by next year.
>>107738621That's good. Limited editions ones are all I got for the 3DS series, so I can't really part with them even if I barely touch them anymore and I could get some decent money for them.The covid era probably helped with those prices skyrocketing too.
