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>News & Rumors
Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"
RDNA3 is finally on the steam hardware survey, 9070 at .22% share


>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/


Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.

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surely hope i didn't screw up making babbys first thread

>>107752912
You didn't go all-in on sucking off any one brand, which is better than normal.

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>>107752937
i >>107752912 am an unhinged but tech-neutral shitposter who just wants anons to get their /pcbg/ on.

>>107752978
he cute

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>he waited
STOP WAITING
BUY BUY BUY

>>107752912
dammit i did screw it up, didn't put a comment. my humblest apologies.

RAM is kill
NVMe are about to be kill
HDDs are climbing up at scary pace
GPUs are days away from playing tag with RAM
Merry Christmas and a Happy New year
optimistic eta for the end of the shortage q2 2028

>He brought
Wait you fuckers it's going to pop soon

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>>107753027
too late
should have boughted before christmas

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I panic boughted like a retard with too much money. I was going to save up and wait for the 6090, but we might not even see that card until 2029 (or longer if the AI bubble doesn't pop and NVIDIA abandons the consumer market)

Well, there it is.

>>107753044
and that's assuming AI datacenter demand doesn't continue to rise.

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people really thought that we'd have competitive high capacity SSD pricing, lol

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We need to wait a while longer. Trust.

>>107753057
Probably could've saved $2-2.5k doing it yourself.

But at least you've got a good computer for the next 5+ years.

>>107753046
AI is not a bubble it is an extension of the USA and is directly funded by it's money printer. Just like MIC which can burn 2.4 trillion a year without anyone asking questions, AI companies can do the same. They won't pop before USA does.

>>107753061
They're literally building these datacenters and just leaving them dark because they are waiting for more power stations to be built
They're buying and building shit just because they can

>>107753055
anon how much of that is the VAT or whatever you call it in kielbasaland?

>>107753065
How much is that in a first world currency?

>>107753085
23%

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Rate my 9070 XT undervolt/tuning anons. Seems stable so far with everything I'm running. Wonder how much further I can push it.

>>107753057
in 6 months you can sell that 5090, recoup the full cost of this rig and probably have 1k on top for burgers & fires.

>>107753074
USA might never pop, and if they do they're gonna drag my country along with it

>>107753089
2350 dollars

>>107753105
That's like twice the price of an 8tb sn8100 on amazing

>>107753046
they will not let it pop because its a government funded scam anon

>>107753091
damn nigga thats insane, 461 borgarbucks for 1tb sata before VAT

>we are boned

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What should I do as an AM4 user with a mediocre octa-core chip right now?

>>107753065
>>107753105
How can a sata be this expensive wtf

>>107753095
>how much further I can push it
until it crashes, anon, then dial it back a notch. thats how it's done.

>>107753130
2TB dramless SATA SSD with TLC was 155 dollars just a few weeks ago here

>>107753133
accept that it is over

>>107753095
Why would you bother?
Surely you'd be better off just using that time to do a bit of overtime and get a 5080.

>>107753142
Crucial OUT
Samsung OUT
DRAM UP
SSD with DRAM go UP

>>107753157
>5080
loooooooooooool no

>>107753104
Naturally. USA will be around for quite some time so don't expect any "bubble pops" this decade. AI is here to stay. The real issue will be time it takes the memory cartel to pull the finger out of its ass, stop hoarding trillions of USA cash and start building more fabs. Datacenters won't stock themselves and the current production is simply not up to the task.

>>107752937
No, sucking off one brand is required for making these threads, so OP failed.

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last realistic option for AM4 users at $250 new is now gone too lmaoAAAAAAA
er ist vorbei
the 9th army is lost

>>107753074
kek it's a global phenomena anon. every goddamn c-suite shirt is rabidly pushing for AI projects globally.

>>107753104
>>107753167
or is it just another clumsy attempt to inject /pol/ into /pcbg/?

fuck off to /pol/ with that shit. stick to talking about the tech.

>we're on to you, you know.

>>107753172
AM4 users lost the second you stopped being able to find the 5700x3d without spending hundreds for a used one

>>107753167
AI also means the end of everyone who is not rich very soon because that shit needs so much fucking water, we're cooked anyways

>>107753186
That happened precisely one year ago and I FUCKING HAD THE 5700X3D BOXED IN MY HAND BUT DIDN'T WALK OUT OF THE STORE WITH IT

Am still on AM4, and im slowly but surely getting bottlenecked by my cpu now
Do I just wait until AM6?

>>107753183
Not really

>>107753070
is this the bot farm talking amongst itself? it sure seems like it, this followed up by the /pol/ lead ins.

>or am i just being my normal schizoid self?

>>107753195
retard

>>107753187
>so much fucking water
not just water. it needs mad amounts of power, and us /consoomers/ end up footing the bill for the power grid updates that it needs.

>we're cooked
agreed

>>107753070
AAAYYYYYY WHY IS HE TRYING TO KIDNAP MY COUSIN

>>107753207
You don't need new computer parts bro

>>107753223
was what anon said when he walked out of the store without a 5700X3D

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>>107753198

>>107753200
not really what?

>your post is kinda trash, anon.

>>107753231
another copypasta trollpost appears, hooray!

>>107753234
I'm pretty sure we're not attempting to bring /pol/ here, but because of what's happening with ram sometimes it can't be helped, I'm pretty sure 99% of us would rather be messing around with our computers but we can't

>>107753073
>Probably could've saved $2-2.5k doing it yourself.
Not really. I looked up the current prices for the new parts if I wanted to build it myself.
>Hyte monitor meme case
524€
>9950X3D
649€
>Anus Mainboard
315€
>64gb RAM
800€ (lmao)
>Anus Astral 5090 OC
4000€
>CPU AIO
200€
>SSDM2
500€
>SSDSATA
215€
>PS
150€
>Gamer LED stripes and sleeves
150€
So 7500€
Maybe I could have saved a couple hundred if I had searched for deals or bought pre owned but it is what it is.
>>107753097
I have hopeium.

>>107753231
Thank you my 5600x will be around for a long time

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This is how much I paid for my computer in 2015. How does today's equivalent compare?

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>>107753251
>rather be messing around with our computers but we can't

>>107753183
I have 0 pol posts throughout my entire 4chan history, I mostly post on /a/ occasionally in /pcbg/.
The cause of the current shitshow is USA treating AI as an arms race and thus allocating sufficient funds towards it support, how it happened is mostly irrelevant, what matters is results. AI "bubble" has effectively unlimited money thanks to the printer and won't go down, period. This means that 500+ datacenters per year for the next 5 years is happening.
Current production capacity of the memory cartel - the only 3 companies on the planet earth who actually make memory wafers Samsung/Hynix/Micron will not be enough to fulfill that task on time. More so over the last 3 years they have been actively cutting down NAND production and closing multiple fabs, even though the datacenter buildup has started in 2019 and went int overdrive in 2023. This indicates clear collusion and the goal is to nickel and dime USA's wallet by increasing the price per wafer to the maximum possible level during the period of exponential increase in demand. It is working and they are getting away with it.
We, the consumer became the collateral victims of this scheme. The only thing left is to wait it out until the cartel makes all the money in the world twice or somebody in the USA doesn't get their paycheck and gooks get into legal throuble.
Sit tight, pray to chinks and if you can still buy shit at mostly reasonable price, do it now. It will get worse and it will stay worse for at least 2 years.

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Due to the last anon's recommendation, I have one final question.

Is the Meshify 3 XL and the Meshify 3 XL RGB Ambience Pro the same case but one just has the fancy lights?

Also do both of these come with case fans installed?

>>107753271
kek every developed country has jumped on the AI bandwagon. You need to read more /sources/.

>>107753273
The one with the fancy lights has better performing fans not even kidding lol

>>107753289
I see. Who bought out and paid upfront for every NAND wafer on the planet that will be made in 2026 and 40% of RAM? the "every developed country"?

>>107753273
>Is the Meshify 3 XL and the Meshify 3 XL RGB Ambience Pro the same case but one just has the fancy lights?
Same case, the Ambience Pro has the light strips and a fan controller bundled.

>Also do both of these come with case fans installed?
Yes.

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Why did nvidia only give 16gbs of VRAM to the 5080 what the hell

>>107753318
not one country, anon. one company has contracted for the majority of the supply, it just happens to be in the USA. the rest of the supply is being gobbled up by all the other AI players and device manufacturers worldwide, leaving us /consoomers/ screwed by the RAMmageddon. the faggotry of rampant capitalism is a global phenomena.

>>107753362
Oy vey you only need 8gb of vram in this day and age, 16gb is overkill for you, only AI companies need more

>tfw didn't boughted the 3090 at 700 dollar

>>107753362
phones do the same pricing thing with storage, bad bad almost passable overkill, it is simple, effective and sells more high end cards.

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Bros, I need your advice. Should I buy the 9060xt or save a little more ($50) for the 5060ti? My biggest concern is that I'm planning to switch to Linux soon and I don't know how well the Nvidia card will perform

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>>107753362
Why did nvidia only give 49% of the shader count of the flagship to the 5080 what the hell

>High-end: 5070ti, 9070xt
Neither of those cards are "high end" not with a 256 bit memory bus nvidia started gimping the memory bus after GTX 700 series and even amd doesn't class the 9070XT as high end it's listed as a mid range card

>>107753362
>>107753431
Because they're enough to beat whatever AMD throws at them.

>>107753433
Those are both arguably high end with the performance they have

>>107753431
Because that's all it took to own the entire AMD lineup.

>>107753416
Fucking true, like iphones and samsung phones with only 256gb or even less sometimes
I believe laptops also do the same shit
What a fucking waste, this is sad

>>107753430
9060XT, 5060ti
whats the point of buying an entry level card that has been gimped so much seem pointless honestly

>>107753431
why don't you just buy a 5090

>>107753430
Just buy the 9060 XT.

>>107753445
entry is more like the 5050

>>107753437
>Those are both arguably high end with the performance they have
>upscaling
>frame Gen
>Ai
okay bro

>>107753433
then buy a 4090 or a 5090

>>107753430
If you wanna play anything with ray tracing then 5060ti, if you don't go for the 9060xt
>>107753445
Cuz we're broke

>>107753459
Yes because of all the new games that are being released without

>upscaling
>frame Gen
>Ai

>>107753430
yet another copypasta shitpost deigned for the (you)s. we all know both will work with the following considerations: amd has open source drivers, nvidia drivers are closed source, and it you /gayme/ the weighting goes to amd because they give a shit about the 2% global market share that linux has

>>107753460
>then buy a 4090 or a 5090
>more overpriced fire starter slop
Dude were you dropped on the head as a baby nobody is this retarded

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>>107753459
>>upscaling
>>frame Gen
>>ai

We warned you for a full fucking year. The ball is rolling, even the orange man warned you. This is a IQ filter taking place in real time. Soon you faggots are going to have to start turning out tricks and offering your lips and assholes just to get a entry level system.

>>107753470
Oh, you're here to cry

Buy a 7900XTX then

>>107753466
>Yes because of all the new games that are being released without
>upscaling
>frame Gen
>Ai
You know you can make games without this shit and indie devs have AAA gaming is fucking dead dude why are you poking a dead horse

>>107753479
Here that guys gaming is dead we can all go home

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>>107753474

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>>107753450
I wanted a 5070 that didn't suck.

>>107753494
Well you don't have that

In my hellhole the 3060 12gb costs the same as the 5060ti 16gb, prices never seem to go down for whatever reason

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>>107753476
>Oh, you're here to cry
Pure projection you sound upset dude have you tried touching grass

>>107753500
seems you're the one crying about there mislabeled graphics cards in a 4chan OP

>>107753490
>Here that guys gaming is dead we can all go home
AAA gaming has been dead since they killed native raster optimisation and added fake gay tracing and upscaling stfu retard

>>107753479
New games released by "indie" devs ship with DLSS4 & FSR4 if they're hardware-demanding titles.

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Just buy a 5080 right now. Don't cope about how you're going to wait, you've already waited too long as is. Don't cope about the bubble popping it's propped up by the United States as a whole now. Don't cope about waiting for the next gen, the next gen is years out and is being made for AI companies. Just get the 5080. Right now.

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maybe I should buy a TV as a display, maybe

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>>107753508
>AAA gaming is dead because my card is shit at running RT & upscaling
Told you to avoid buying an RDNA3 card.

Chink RAM when?

>>107753508
oh native raster is dead first i'm hearing of that in /pcbg/ that always says it's the most important thing ever

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>>107753507
OP >>107752912 here.

>mislabeled graphics cards in a 4chan OP
where mislabel?

>spending thousands of dollars to play ue5 slop
dont tell me you people actually do this

>>107753536
you'll have to take it up with >>107753433

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Do the mainline resident evil games count as AAA games? Those are still very good imo, but you need a certain kind of autism for horror, item management and limited resources to like them
And they're also not hard to run thankfully, the re engine shits it's pant in open worlds games apparently tho

>>107753538
We're not the ones who bought a 7900 XTX to lock it at 60Hz vsync or to run Speedometer all day.

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>>107753547
i use my 6600xt to play classics like halo, red dead redemption and warthunder

>just spent $1700 on 16TB of storage
It's never been more over. I should have just waited until this shortage was over.

>>107753541
No
RE9 will be an indie game from small indie studio capcom

>Hey this is going to happen
>No I will ignore you and wait
>Why is this happening
I want to laugh at all of the faggots that insulted anons that bought this gen, they will be sitting comfy while you hoes will have to turn out your anuses for the next 3 years.

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https://youtu.be/DE0CVDDhgks

FINALLY

>>107753560
Not everyone needs to have your gaming preferences or stick with playing the same games over again.PC building is about customization to begin with.

>>107753519
Yes, being jammed in a corner at a desk is dehumanizing.

>>107753580
you must be lobotomized if you spend thousands of dollars to play ue5 slop

>>107753574
Coombait

>>107753560
You'd cry if you saw how many boomers bought a 5090 just to play warthunder

>>107753573
I'm still going to wait

>>107753588
The 2025 GOTY, with an overwhelmingly positive user review, is an RPG built on UE5.
We get it, your budget card struggles to run games with all the eye candies enabled. That's your problem.

>>107753601
Based boomers

Do not talk to me if your GPU is on the maintenance mode drivers

Currently on a m27q (1440p170hz). Any advice on a 4k replacement?

>>107753606
e33 is dei ue5 slop. not worthy of my 6600xt

>>107753623
Your gaming tastes and preferences don't matter at all; you don't move the needle.

>>107753636
warthunder has more players then your slop

>>107753623
Don't ever talk to me or my 5090 ever again.

>>107753623
>dei slop
Using the term wrong is just as bad as tumblrinas calling looking at a woman rape.

Gonna do this once more. I have settled on the components, just haven't decided on the case/tower.
I would prefer two usb ports for the front, and for it to have good air flow.

Processor CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core CPU
Processor Cooling: PCS Frostflow 200 Series High Performance CPU Cooler (250W TDP)
Motherboard: GIGABYTE X870E AORUS ELITE WIFI7
RAM: 64GB CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 6000MHz CL30
GPU: 32GB PALIT GEFORCE RTX 5090 GAMEROCK
M.2 SSD Drives: 2TB Samsung 990 PRO m.2 PCIe 4.0 NVMe (7450MB/R, 6900MB/W)
Storage: 6TB SEAGATE IRONWOLF PRO 3.5 7200 RPM 256mb CACHE
PSU: FSP HYDRO PTM PRO 1650W ATX 3.1 & PCIe 5.1 MODULAR 80 PLUS PLATINUM
EXTRA CASE FANS: 5 x 120mm THERMALTAKE TOUGHFAN 12

The PSU is admittedly overkill but I read that it was better for 5090 RTX cards and slightly reduces the melting risks. Anyway, recommend some towers/cases, and I am using PCSpecialist so I'll only use the ones they are offering.

>>107753641
>spending thousands of dollars to play ue5 slop

>>107753623
>e33 is dei
I heard it was just french guys with a shitload of money making a game using youtube tutorials

>>107753647
>making a game using youtube tutorials
Somehow they fucking cooked what the hell

>>107753637
> Free-to-play slop that is accessible to third-worlders (GTX 1060 recommended) has more player base than a $40, UE5 RPG.
Good for you.

>>107753641
If you want to reduce the melting risks just buy an Asrock power supply with the TempGuard feature.

>>107753601
>boomers bought a 5090 just to play warthunder
I refuse to believe this, baby boomers get annoyed if you have to spend any money at all here.

>>107753647
first screenshot on steam has two women and a feminine gay man

>>107753474
>even the orange man warned you
The orange man doesn't govern my country?

>>107753672
does it stop the card or does it still require manual involvement?

kek

>>107753597
>Coombait
How does a moderately attractive woman make you think of that?

Any reason to get amd over intel for the cpu?
looking at some combi kits and the 14600k ones are about 100 europoors cheaper than the 7800X3Ds

>>107753682
>two women
they look decent, not dei coded
>feminine gay man
that's just french

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>>107753539
>you'll have to take it up with
oh you're new here

>>107753433 is just a retard/bot farm/paid shill/schizo spamming the thread with the same retarded topics every time. i mean, the sticky (which i shamelessly copypastad) only classifies the cards as Budget, Midrange, High-end, and Flagship, and it based on real world market data, wtf do they expect to be in there?

the shitposter never ever just tags the OP and asks for it to be updated or changed as asked for in the second part of the sticky. they also resort to things like ad hominem, racism, cherry picked benchmarks, false information, etc. and one of my favorite things is the lone post tagging no one but responding to some previous reply to whatever argument it felt it was losing.

>>107752886
>Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.

>also i >>107752878 find it highly amusing to watch all you /faggots/ slapfight with the shitpostanon, many keks are had and i hope you can have them too.
>just report the shitposts and move on, anons, its the only thing you can really do.

>>107753711
youll go bankrupt buying ddr5 ram for the 7800x3d

>>107753711
7800X3D is a better gaming chip; 100EUR isn't that much of a premium.
Get the 14600K bundle if the savings help you buy a better video card.

>>107753711
those are a totally different class of CPU
14600K's main selling point at this point is ddr4 is cheaper than ddr5 and put the money into gpu
14600k's price is rising now too though

>>107753302
>>107753329
Is that really worth like 50 bucks in price difference?

I kind of want to have the case work out of the box.

>>107753688
He's a huge part of why global RAM prices and AI are out of control. The tech companies are now run by the money printers.

>>107753607
most of the boomers i know either DGAF about whatever and just buy a prebuilt or worse some shitty Dell or HP or chinkshit minipc box or do exactly the opposite and way overspend on GPU and CPU just to look at porn when their GILF takes her afternoon nap.

>>107753720
>>107753742
I didnt even realize 14600k was ddr4, this actually means I wouldnt even have to buy any ram, just a new mobo to fit it

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>>107753746
The fan performance difference isn't worth $50. The ARGB + fan hub stuff is personal preference.
I bought the regular Meshify 3 with a solid side panel, 100% happy with it.

>>107753623
>not worthy of my
old budget card that can't run the latest modern technology, we get it. you're making yourself look bad.

wait no the 14600k is for ddr5 ram so that literally doesnt matter

>>107753757
Intel 12/12/13th gen CPUs can run on DDR4 or DDR5 platforms, but you'd want the DDR4 memory to have at least 3200 or 3600 MT/s speed.
I would buy a Z690 or a Z790 board to have access to all of the CPU tuning options.

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>>107753767
modern technology is a downgrade from old technology

>>107753761
Thank you Anon, will get the solid side panel XL regular version then.

>>107753775
Unfortunately mine are 2666 shitters, so I guess im fucked either way

>>107753785
The RGB Momentum fans generate more airflow only if you use nylon dust filters.
Fractal and most other PC case manufacturers stopped including these nylon filters after Gamers Nexus bitched about dust filters worsening case airflow.

>>107753795
I would still buy 14600K if you need to save some money; the cost of better DDR4 or DDR5 memory kits won't justify the performance gains.

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>>107753605
Guess that bussy is gonna get tore up when it's time to upgrade

>>107753815
Im in a bit of a shit position
On one hand, the games I want to play recommend something like a 7800x3D, which im obviously currently under, and this would require me to effectively make an entirely new pc, save for the gpu I guess
And while I can probably still make it work, with whats going on right now, I might not have another chance, my cpu is atleast 5 years old now and if it croaks in a year im gigafucked, its not showing signs yet but knowing my luck itll die just as everything becomes either unaffordable or straight up unavailable

>>107753828
Buckbrokenbros......

>>107753831
have you considered not playing ue5 slop?

>>107753831
post current CPU so anons can tell you if there is any hope for a reasonable upgrade

>>107753805
But my 5 degree increase in hot spot! Who gives a fuck, less dust is nice. I had two case fans die and I didn't notice any temp increase for six months.

>>107753805
>removing dust filters because retards whined
fucking influencers ruining it for everyone

>>107753831
People "recommend" shit all the time, doesn't mean you'll necessarily have a bad experience or it won't play at all.
As far as the normie population is concerned a 14600k even with slow ram might as well be a super computer. It's not a bad position.

>>107753851
Ryzen 9 5900X
It was part of an upgrade kit I panic bought when my system died a day before a big release I was gonna play with my friends

>>107753677
Oh that's different here, boomers with money will throw all of it at their hobbies like it's nothing.

>>107753872
5900x is still a really good cpu. also cpus dont die unless you overclock it to an absurd degree

>>107753872
No point switching to a 14600K if you have a 5900X, especially for gaming.
14600K isn't much better to justify the expense.

>>107753878
I dont think I ever OCd it, it had been heating up a little more than comfortable a while back but I have since repasted it and I think its fine now
I guess ill see when the game actually releases

>>107753853
based reply. when i built my current rig i went for /silentmax/ with 0rpm idle mode GPU, AIO, and one.single.case.fan with dialed-in curves, fuck that muh low idle temps, shit is all still well within spec

>inb4 hurrr even sustained low heat causes damage GTFO with that stupidity

>>107753795
You could probably OC it

>>107753893
Check the chart in >>107753231
A 5900X runs slightly better than a 5600X in gaming, because very few games utilize both 6-core CCDs on that CPU.

>>107753912
I guess it should be fine?
I mostly play at 60fps anyway, though I did fall for the widescreen meme
Maybe I should get a new monitor and just sell this thing

>>107753574
she installed windows. Fucking disgusting

the 6600xt can play any game worth playing

>>107753973
True, that's equivalent to the 3060, which is the most used card in steam

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Tech illiterate here. I'm getting a 5070 ti and I'm having trouble getting around the whole connector thing. So the standard now is the 12V-2x6 if I understand correctly, so I should get a 3.1 PSU to avoid melting but in some cases it seems that it would be safer to buy something like https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/pc-components-accessories/cp-8920284/600w-pcie-5-0-12v-2x6-type-4-psu-power-cable-cp-8920284 instead. I don't know if that would be the case for me since I'm not playing at 4k and I'm pairing it with a 5800X and a 750 W PSU.

>>107753973
so, anon-kun, i mentioned some relationship stuff to you last time, i mean, so.. ummm... like... what are we?

>>107753715
>one of my favorite things is the lone post tagging no one but

now we see the variation on the theme, the plaintive bleat of the amd shillposter, anything to get some some part of the brand out there, a one-liner just to flood the vapid minds of the unwashed masses.

IDGAF what anons buy, except maybe i'll kek if you buy an Arc but whateva.

>>107754030
the only use case for a 5070ti is to play ue5 slop
why are you playing ue5 slop?

>>107754030
I mean the 5070 Ti doesn't pull too much power for the cable to melt. You're fine don't think too much about it. Just fully seat it and don't bend it. In any case, nothing will happen.

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>>107754030
That 2x 8-pin to 12V-2x6 connector isn't a silver bullet, according to this user >>107750889
Make sure the cable has enough straight clearance (30mm minimum) before you bend it sideways on the PSU side.
You shouldn't have to worry to much since you're getting a 5070 Ti, not a 5090.
The article in my image is written by Corsair's PSU research director.

>>107754055
E33 and Arc Raiders are some of the best games ever made

My new gpu was supposed to arrive today. It just got delayed until the 30th. Amazing, cool.

>>107754055
because it's fun and it looks great.

>so no answer on the relationship thing?

>>107754093
what gpu did you get anon. From where? What country? Tell us more

>>107754087
e33 is a boring movie game and arc raiders has no point in playing because any gear you find is not any better then the free loadout

>>107754103
Coping and seething

>>107754103
>boring movie game
That's like, your opinion man.
>arc raiders has no point in playing because any gear you find is not any better then the free loadout
I don't play the game but if this is true, yeah that's a weak game mechanic. I did play during the free weekend and I had a blast. So idk why you are seething.

>>107754030
The 5070ti only draws like 350W max and there will most likely be an adapter cable in the box which will have 3x8pin connectors, no need to buy a new PSU.

>>107754175
>5070 Ti 350W max
Can't this thing be undervolted so it draws only like 250W?

>>107754186
You can power limit to whatever you want with the correct tool. You will lose performance tho. Idk about 250 W, silicon lottery, blah blah

>>107753641
Update: I have my eye on the CORSAIR 6500X MID TOWER DUAL CHAMBER. I have a Corsair Carbide so this feels like a logical upgrade from that.

Any thoughts? I am pretty confident about it.

>>107754186
of course it can be undervolted, I'm saying the maximum isn't a problem for the new shit connector, it gets bad north of 500W

>>107754186
Unless you're trying to push like 4K@100fps it's hardly going to try to ever pull more than 250W at stock in anything else

Why is there still 12VHPWR autism? Just get a good PSU and don't worry about it.

>>107754099
The ASUS 9070XT, I just ordered it off Amazon, I don't know where it's shipping from.

>>107753095
what aib

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Can you guys tell me how to pick a good monitor? I'm mostly going to be playing at 1440p so I checked out the KTC and ASUS monitors in the OP but they seem a bit expensive. I mean I can afford the KTC but I'm just wondering if it's that much better than similar monitors from different brands at lower prices.

>>107754261
>wondering
it is. also there are a million online reviews you could use to learn about monitors so you can make up you own mind, after all only a fool takes advice from the /pcbg/ OP without fact-checking it.

>>107754261
If you have a 1080p 120+ Hz monitor just keep that. You don't need more than 1080p. If you don't have a monitor yet, just buy whatever cheap 1440p monitor you find. VA or IPS doesn't matter nothing matters.

>>107754281
>just buy whatever cheap
cheap monitors always suck tho amirite?

>>107754327
yes but so do all monitors. That's why it doesn't matter

>>107754246
Asrock. It's just an Asrock "Challenger" model, but it seems to be running well so far even though I didn't opt for a higher end model.

PC Gaming is dead because Sam Altman and Jensen Huang want to relive their The Epstein Experience™ with AI to themselves :(

>>107754500
nigga you can be sure they get their freak on somehow that isn't fapping on /gif/, i surely won't believe they don't.

I hard fomoed and spent fucking 2k3 on a 5090 I hope it was worth it because damn it's the first time I ever spend that much on a gpu

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>540Hz
why? what could possibly be a usecase?

>>107753362
To incentivize you to go for the 5090, same as they did for the 4080 and 4090, that much is obvious

>>107754540
How much money is left on your all your bank accounts combined? If it's more than 10k ur fine

>>107754554
smoother boobjiggla effect, just don't buy one if you don't care

>>107754554
my 6600xt can get that much fps in warthunder

>>107754563
Yeah more, but it's like spending 300 on a pizza, shit stings like hell

>>107753362
i think half of it was probably to intentionally leave room for the super series with the 3gb vram modules to come along and provide an almost effortless refresh but things happened and here we are

>>107754554
the 540hz is a TN panel for esport

>>107754563
>keeping 10k in a "bank account"
just no

>>107754068
>>107754175
That's reassuring. I was aware of mostly being the high end cards that had this issue but better be safe than sorry.
>>107754073
That was really informative both the article and the other anon's post. Thank you. So it seems there is just not perfect answer. I think I'll do what the article in your pic suggested and protect at least the PSU in the very unlikely case something melts.

>>107754637
NTA but I have a high-yield savings account (just under 5%).

It's an online-only bank though which can be a bit annoying, but I just do wire transfers to my local bank where I do my primary banking to move funds when I need it.

I usually have ~$40-60k liquid at all times, but 90%+ of that is in the high-yield account unless it's needed.

Local bank does CDs, 401k, IRA, checking, credit cards.
Online bank for high-yield savings
Fidelity account for stocks

>>107754637
>not getting so much bank interest you have to file new tax forms for breaking the threshold
lmao

>>107754637
>having no liquid funds because of a meme

>>107754602
>stings like hell
they make an ointment that helps with that, anon, and use lube next time.

>>107754637
>>107754707
>>107754715
what is all this finance faggotry about? anyway, 10k seems a big number if your /poor/

what's up with the 990 Pro and Linux? I bought a 990 Pro to get in front of the price increases last month and I'm just seeing this now, but I can't find much online about it, just that you can't (easily) update the software on linux.

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Some feedback on this build?
I don't have a clue about if these parts would actually work together or not.

>>107754763
The controller is only optimized for Windows and shits itself if used for anything else like Linux, Mac, Consoles. Various SSD controllers have niche bugs like P41 platinum from SK Hynix having the SLC cache bug that rapes write speeds until you Secure Erase it.

>>107754801
well fuck. i was planning on switching to Linux with this build too. do you have a link that explains it?

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>>107754763
someone noticed that this review shows that samsung drives suck dick under linux: https://www.phoronix.com/review/wd-black-sn8100-linux/3

the article itself doesn't mention a cause and the comments for the article don't indicate any actual reason for this

the original samsung 980 review indicates the same relatively poor performance for that drive https://www.phoronix.com/review/samsung-980-linux/3 and that appears to have carried over to the 990

I'm thinking of adding a superdisk drive to my sleeper PC...... should I?

>>107754768
>rm1000

>>107754768
>ddr4-2133 cl15
>4x4gb
Get a single 16gb stick at least so you can upgrade by just adding another stick (or more) instead of populating all 4 slots.

>>107754814
It's all on Level1Techs and Server Forums. You can also run your own tests like copying games. Many people aren't even aware of SSD issues because the dropoff is still faster than a SATA SSD.

>>107754829
Didn't even occur to me that they were 4x4gb sticks the price point was the important part, is this build overall slightly worse than a steam machine, just curious?
>>107754826
What do you recommend as a power supply instead in that price range?

>>107754819

99.999% of people use windowz.

Samsung knows this.

They optimize their physical hardware for windows.

Use the F2FS on Linux when using Samsung hardware, they developed it.
Sorry for Redditspacing, I love hogging screen real estate.

>>107754768
That power supply is definitely overspecced for a 5500 and 9060xt build. So unless you plan to upgrade the pc in the future a 650 watter should be enough.

Also don't get a 45 dollar CPU cooler for a Ryzen 5 5500. Use the stock cooler for it. Or on ebay you can get a brand new tray version of Ryzen 5 5600. Then get a cheap CPU cooler like the Artic Alpine 23 (slightly better than the stock cooler) and you'd have a good CPU upgrade.

>>107754829
>Get a single 16gb stick
>>107754850
Do not get a single stick, do 2x8GB or 2x16GB.

Never do single stick, you lose half of your memory bandwidth.

>>107754768
That's a pretty expensive build for what you're getting

>1000 watt power supply
extreme overkill wattage for that build
>CPU cooler
you can get a better CPU cooler for a better price
>RAM
Slow speed in quad channel, I'd recommend doing 2x8 GB modules or even a single 16 GB stick that you can maybe upgrade later

Here's a build that is not only cheaper, but imo, much better
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2RbmVF

>>107753362
nigga they gave 16GB to 4060 Ti and 12GB to 4070 Ti. fuck those thieving (((motherfuckers))).

>>107754850
unless you plan to hold onto that psu for some future (lmao at this rate) top of the line gpu you will never need that much
corsair rm750x should be way cheaper

>>107754900
meant to use the 5800XT instead of the 5700
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9Cc9xg

>>107754918
>rosewill
>adata
>geil
what the fuck is that just save the extra little bit and buy some proper brands

>>107754936
good cattlegoy brandslave
superflower psus are also shit, buy evega :^)

>>107754954
>returns his 3rd chinksium motherboard this month because it saved his 20 bucks

>>107754936
Rosewill VMG PSUs are made by Andyson for Newegg and are good, I use them in many builds
GeIL CL16 3000MHz kits are sourced from Samsung dies

>>107754768
My improvements for this build:

>CPU
Drop the CPU cooler and the Ryzen 5 5500. And instead buy a brand new Ryzen 5 5600 on ebay for $120 (it's a tray cooler so no CPU cooler included) then buy Arctic Alpine 23 B stock on ebay from Arctic's official store for $7.80. This is a big CPU upgrade for less than 3 dollars more.

>Ram
Instead of getting a 4x4gb kit of 2133mhz ram. You can on amazon buy GeiL Evo Spear 16gb kit that's 2x8gb kit which leaves you upgrade room to 32gb in the future. AND it's 3000mhz so it's much faster as well.

>SSD
For $135 you can get a WD SN7100 which is a much better NVME driver over that QLC Samsung SATA drive

>PSU
1000W PSU for a 5500 and 9060xt build is overkill. Only buy the 1000W PSU if you know that in future you will upgrade to like a 5080 or 5090 class GPU. Get either an MSI MAG 650GLS for $80 or a Rosewill VMG 750W for $76.

>Case
Not best value case. But if it's the cheapest case you think looks cool get it. But you can save like 40 bucks by going for a cheaper but similar looking case.

>>107754936
>Rosewill
It's a Newegg house brand just like Powerspec is Micro Center's house brand. And just like most PSU brands not named Seasonic, FSP or Super Flower they don't make their PSU's. Just like Corsair doesn't make their PSU's but rather source from like 6 different PSU OEM's. The Rosewill VMG PSU's are actually rated quite well on the PSU tier list.
>Adata
Since when did Adata become an "non proper brand". They are one of the most well known SSD makers out there.
>GEIL
Your Corsair's and G.Skill's don't make the memory chips. Only Samsung, Micron or SK.Hynix does. And those GEIL sticks use one of those brands.

>>107754768
Don't listen to the fags. 1000w has overhead but who cares for $150. It will last you 10 years. You buy for your needs 10 years from now. There's a nice Seasonic on Woot for $150 as well.

>>107754954
I find it most annoying people who don't recognize PSU brands. Like I still remember when people shat on the Walmart PC for having a Great Wall PSU. Even though a lot of those people probably had a Corsair CX series PSU that was also made.... Great Wall.

Honestly most shocking is how even big Youtubers like Linus (who has a fucking PSU review channel) don't recognize brands like High Power.......

>>107755006
What games would that improved rig not be able to play at high? Just trying to see if it is worth more to wait for the steam machine.

>>107755065
Steam machine is going to be great. Not because the hardware will be the best ever, but because the OS is going to be finely tuned exactly for that specific hardware. From what I have seen of the Steam Deck, it has only improved, just look at how far Linux game compatibility as a whole has advanced in only the past year.

>>107755065
i dont think that rig plays any modern games at high

>>107755065
Steam Machine's GPU for example is worse than an RX 7600. That 9060xt is 36% faster than an RX 7600. So probably around 50% faster than the Steam Machine's GPU.

>>107755065
the 16gb of ram will kill you trying to play video games while having a web browser open, everything else is fine

>>107755065
What resolution is your monitor? 1080p? If so, every single game at good frame rates.

>>107755098
I was purely asking from a hardware perspective. I know that Valve opens up Linux for most people but being competitive in the pc market is about knowing and fine-tuning your specs for specialized use-cases. If it can't compete with a pre-built or self built pc why would I invest into a mini pc that runs containered arch Linux when I can just install arch on my pc that is also extendable in the future. It would make more sense if Valve would adopt a Framework kind of approach to their hardware.

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sup bros
should i update to this on msi x870e carbon wifi?

>>107752886
> 2027
We are almost there, it's 2026 already.

>>107755145
No.
It's too new. Let the suckers find any catastrophic problems.

>>107755065
Borderlands 4. But even RTX 5090 gets 45 fps at max settings on that game so it's because that game is unoptimized trash.

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>>107755154
how long do you typically like to wait to see if something is decent? minimal complaints over like 2 weeks? maybe a month? maybe waaayy mooore?

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Is there any chance that Intel will launch Bartlett Lake soon? Or are the rumours fake? I have a 3090 but only a 12400f and the reason why I haven't upgraded is because I have been waitfagging for Bartlett Lake for over a year. It already caused me to miss out upgrading my slow JDEC speed DDR5.

>>107753057
TF is 2TB SATA SSD good for? Where do you install the OS? Makes no sense.

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>virtual memory load 99,7 % when gaming
should i be concerned? everything else look in order

>>107755167
2 weeks seems reasonable. Problems usually rear their head pretty fast.

>>107753587
to be fair I would still be deskmaxxing

>>107755182
If anything is coming soon, it'll be announced at CES in 3 days

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>>107755182
anon it's embedded anyway wtf are you going to buy if it does release some heat trap mini pc that locks the cpu to 95 watts with soldered ram...?

>>107753167
> USA will be around for quite some time
But not the US dollar.

should i regret not buying a protection plan for my 5090 from microcenter

>>107755185
He install the OS Probably to the 4tb Samsung 9100 pro. Though I don't know why the prebuilt company didn't just add like a Samsung 980 pro 2tb or something like that as a secondary drive. I guess they just had bunch of 870 evos laying around or something.

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>give up on QDOLED ok because the fringing has been raping my eyes
>Give up on giant QDOLED TV display
>Ok will consoom the G5 55"
>Read about people saying the 80ppi RGBW subpixels are so bad it's unsuable for windows text
>Other say 77" and text is fine
>thedisplaygoy showing here 55" G5 with text (scaling unknown) with font improvements too
>does not look bad
so who was fucking right in this debate? is low ppi woled fine for text or vomit inducing?
do I really have to test every single thing myself because people online are mentally ill and can't come to a conclusion? It's all so tiring

>>107755214
The American dollar will remain the world's primary reserve currency for at least a few decades, if not longer. Brics just isn't that much of a threat.

>>107753057
>7.2k for a computer
that's insane

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>>107755210
I mean it's not really embedded isn't it. And the right now we they have launched the Core 7 251E. And they recently rebranded basically the 12400 as the Core 5 120 for regular LGA 1700. So that gives me hope that we will get Bartlett Lake seperately as well.

>>107755220
Not if you're going to use it normally and responsibly, and use a good PSU/cable. If it acts fucky, you can see if they can exchange it for you within 30d (though idk how swaps work with potentially low inventory), and they'll have years of warranty down the line regardless.

>>107755220
I mean unless you had the option to have protection beyond the 3 years your GPU already has warranty for. And the protection for like say 5 years isn't a completely ridicilous price.

If you are really worried you can just call Micro Center and see if they can add the protection plan afterwards. I'm sure they will likely be able to do that.

>>107755220
depends, would it offer better conditions than Nvidia's warranty regarding house fires?

>>107755220
how much is the plan?

>>107754554
It's been shown even an additional 10ms latency lowers performance of everyone even total casuals and normies
An addition 3ms is enough to lower the performance of above average players not even pros, just those good at games

Thinking about this build for a little bit more of 2000 euros:

Processor
AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 8 cores, 16 threads, 4.7 / 5.2 GHz

Motherboard
MSI PRO B650-S WIFI

Memory (RAM)
Corsair Vengeance 32 GB DDR5 (2 × 16 GB) 6000 MHz CL32

Storage
WD_BLACK SN7100 POWERED BY SANDISK NVMe SSD 2 TB, 7250 MB/s, PCIe 4.0 M.2 Gen4

Graphics Card
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 Ti, 16 GB GDDR7, DLSS 4

Power Supply & Cooling
750 W modular power supply, ATX 3.1 PCIe 5.1; Forgeon 240 mm ARGB liquid cooling

Case
Forgeon Arcanite ATX Mesh ARGB, black

Worth it?

>>107755328
buy it

>>107755357
Did you forget the screenshot?

>>107755328
B650 probably isn't optimal and check what the PSU exactly is (it might zap your system), but seems bretty good for the price

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How do my GPU (9070 XT) temps seem and wattage seem? Hotspot delta okay? I left HWInfo on for around an hour while I played Hogwarts Legacy (cranked, native 2160p, no RT). I started the testing during load-in, and restarted the game a few times as I tested various settings. So, the minimums aren't accurate since they didn't capture idle. FPS/etc shouldn't matter either for the same reason; I'm just looking at my thermal and watt/voltage here.
>>107755363
No, I added it to my post, but it didn't upload for some reason. I renamed it, so hopefully it sticks this time.

>>107755237
>is low ppi woled fine for text
absolutely not and do not believe any lies you are told online
buy and see your yourself and return it if it's sucks
You cannot trust anyone
They are all coping with their choices you will find people today saying QD-OLED has perfectly fine text readability and no fringing or that it's not noticeable at all, completely delusional beings.
We'll see what CES has to offer with the 5K2K monitors

>>107755371
Delta is alright, anything 25° or below is fine and 20° is great, would start worrying at >30°. Memory's a bit hot but I guess that's normal if it's hynix.

>>107755371
Memory is bit too hot. Other than that not really too bad. But the memory isn't that hot yet that you would be afraid of it dying or it thermal throttling your PC. I guess you can always ramp up your fans or something.

What model 9070xt if I may ask?

>>107755224
> He install the OS Probably to the 4tb Samsung 9100 pro
What a waste! The OS can't make any use of the speed, it reads many small files on startup and then writes/reads only few small files during uptime. There will be no noticeable difference to a OS on a PCIe 4.0 drive. A PCIe 5.0 drive should be used for large file operations like working with media data. The OS should be installed on a much smaller dedicated drive or partition of it's own.

>>107755371
don't worry AMD told everyone 95C is not hot

>>107755257
Rather the new normal.

>>107755436
Hynix memory just runs that hot, Samsung would be sitting somewhere between average and hotspot.

>>107755328
> 16 threads
Yes, yes, yes, we know the 9800X3D has 8 cores/ 16 threads.
There is no need to post all details of well known hardware. Wtf!

>>107755473
very autism coded post

>>107755464
Damn how hot is Micron memory known to run? My Dell 3090's memory runs hot (though from what I have seen it's a cooler design problem) and it's Micron.

RAM CL doesn't actually matter

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Good night sweet prince, it's time to take you offline after 6-7 years of video recordings, shadowplaying, and stable diffusing.

>>107755409
>>107755436
Nice, appreciate the feedback. I guess I'm good with it at sub-20C hotspot then. As for memory, should I back off a bit on my VRAM tunings here:
>>107753095
...or not worth nitpicking in your opinion? I'm still at stock fan curve too, so maybe I can mess with that a little.
>What model 9070xt if I may ask?
Asrock 9070 XT Challenger. They didn't advertise it much for some reason, but one of the things I really liked is that they're using PTM7950 on the die. Gives me a little peace of mind despite being a more inexpensive 9070 XT model.
>>107755449
For which component (or is this a meme?)
>>107755464
So it's rated to endure sitting at this kind of temp (assuming my card is running Hynix memory)? I couldn't find anything on their product page about this. Just trying to learn.

>>107754768
If you want a GPU that's probably 30% slower, you could get the framework AI max 385 32gb mainboard for $800.
https://frame.work/products/framework-desktop-mainboard-amd-ryzen-ai-max-300-series?v=FRAFMK0002
But no fsr 4, soldered ram, 1 year warranty, hard to add a GPU to it (but it's still worth putting in a 5090 if you want 4k, but the pcie 4x slot needs some sort of adapter).
You also need the psu, ssd, case, and 120mm fan.
I would get a cheaper PSU, and a better NVME, smaller case (matx, itx if it's cheap and fits an ATX psu?, the framework desktop case is +$300).
I would find a $30~ 650watt PSU from like facebook marketplace (check the PSU with cybenetics, and maybe a review that tears down the internals).
And sometimes noctua a12 / bequiet pure wings tend to sell for like $5.
Might as well also get a PC case as well on facebook (but you are probably going to be missing screws or the USB hub will be 2.0 which is OLD, but you could probably buy a usb 3 hub that fits into the CD slot in aliexpress if you ask /csg/).

>>107755484
Not sure, I meant on the RX 9000 series specifically. They completely randomly come with either Samsung or Hynix, I don't think Micron even produces GDDR anymore.

>>107755488
why not

My second monitor is blackscreening when I'm watching a YouTube video in fullscreen with modded Minecraft on the main monitor, GPU running at 100% usage with no OC. Anyone have any solutions?

>>107755549
dont have gpu running at 100% while trying to use it for other things

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>>107755501
>6-7

>>107755549
fps cap minecraft

>>107755501
based i had a seagate barracude in my last 4 pcs and not a single one failed me to this day

>>107755488
it does matter but there's a thing called diminishing returns. subtimings matter more, trfc+trefi affect latency a crap ton.

>>107755506
>or not worth nitpicking in your opinion?
Those look like normal settings for a 9070xt, though the increase in max frequency offset could cause issues in certain games (BF6 for example tends to cause a DX error if the GPU boosts above roughly 3200mhz)
>So it's rated to endure sitting at this kind of temp
It's rated for 105° if I recall correctly. But lowering the memory clock a little could be worth it imo, if that positively affects the temperature.
>I couldn't find anything on their product page about this
GPUZ will tell you what kind of memory the card has, the manufacturers just use whatever they can get and won't tell you.

>>107755549
If you have iGP, make sure it's enabled in BIOS and connect your second monitor to that

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>>107755488
>>107755547
>>107755597
hey we've seen this one before, the thread gets old and the bot farm/paid shill/schizo spams the thread to bump up the post count using little snippets of text that almost (but not quite) fit in.

>shitpostanon-kun you have been ignoring me all day. i thought we had a thing going, it's making me sad. are you upset with me?

>>107755597
kys zoomer

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>>107755674
you are the schizo fren

>>107755683
well, i >>107752978 think you may be right, anon, thanks for the diagnosis.

>>107755319
like 250 bucks

>>107755717
If you're already shilling out thousands for the 5090 why wouldn't you insure it for another 250

>mkfs -cc completed after ~79 hours
winner winner chicken dinner

>>107755700
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>>107755664
Thanks I'm going to try this

>>107755717
a horrible deal. good thing you passed on that scam.

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taking into account prices, this mini pc doesn't look so bad. 8060s performance is ~4060

>>107753186
>>107753198
if you are still at am4 see if you can convince a spic to toss you a ~$200 5500x3d. it is quite decent on a budget build. Will suck on workstation stuff